Trees and Parks Board - Regular Meeting

All right, we're going to call this meeting to order at 4:34 um August 20th, 2025. Roll call. Roll call. Judy here. Uh here. Shaman. Bill here. and Jacob. I'm here. Okay, we are all here. All right. Um, we'll look over the minutes of last No,

next is the You're looking at the next the presentation. Okay. We have a presentation by Tatum D on our way station in Augusta Park. Yes. Hello. How's it going? Good. How are we all doing? Okay.

So, the presentation is really just helping you all figure out how to maintain it. Um, once I go off to college, when that happens, um, I will be here for a little bit so I can help take care of it in the water and stuff and help transfer it off to you guys. Um, so next slide please. Oh, next one also. So, it just it's basically just like need to knows for the garden. So, like how to find if it needs water, um, the different types of plants that are in there. I will get y'all a list of everything that's in there. That was That's what I said I was going to make. Maybe you there was something. Um, so I'll give you a list of all the plants that are in there. So if something dies off and my wedge doesn't make it, y'all can get some more if you want. Um, yeah. And then there's some pollinator waters in here. They're just little clay dishes with some porous rocks in there so the pollinators can drink off of them and drink the water out of the dish. The rain usually fills it up. Okay. Um if it's super hot and you can have everything like it has been, you can fill them up. It's just like maybe two ounces of water that goes in it. So, um, so this is just like letting everybody else I think maybe you all know how to garden somewhat, but if not, this is just like tips on how to like make sure there's enough water in the garden. Make sure you're not overwatering the garden. Uh I don't know there

when you say a a heavy watering because I know I know you need to get the water down into the right. So how do you how do you know if you pou if you can get about two knuckles down? Just go ahead and you just stick your finger down. Just like you're testing if it's if it's too dry. It's the same way. So, like it's like okay if it's a knuckle down, but two knuckles down is it okay if I use Jacob's finger instead? That's what I was going to ask. Is it kind of like a cake? You stick a fork in it and if it comes out there's dirt on it then then it's not done.

Yes. Yeah. Dry dirt. Um Oh, I forgot about the apps. Um see I like three weeks ago I came off running. Um, so these are two different apps that I've been using to help out finding out if there's weeds in the garden, if there's random milkweed pups that popped up, cuz we found one the other day. I was like, "Was that night shed or milkweed?" And then we looked it up and it was milkweed. And we're like, "Yay." Um, so a picture of this is the one with the flower on it. Um, that one is great for just plants. If you There's a premium thing that you can buy if you want. You don't have to. I just use the free version.

We use the free version. If you buy the preown, it can like it'll be like your plant is sick and then it'll give you options on how to help it. But I'm not doing all that. I can Google it. Um, seek is another one. That one helps you identify animals, plants, um, birds, all sorts of stuff. So, I used it to help figure out plants. And we had some bugs in the garden. We had some butterflies. They had the aphids. Um, that was the other thing. I needed the aphid solution. New York. Thank you.

Um, so I found an aphid solution that helps. It won't hurt the plants. Um, it's better to do it when it's not like when the le or the when the eggs are on the plants. It's better to do it when they're like closer to pop or like in the winter when they're starting to slowly go growing or before winter before winter seeds. Um so like the late fallish. Um and then if it's like a yellowy orange on there, they usually stick on the stems and on the bottoms of the leaves. Can't miss them if it's bright against the green. So um you can rub them off. It might stain your pants a little bit for a couple days if you don't have gloves on, but and then I will get you a plant list so you know it's there. And I don't think I will always.

So the hose that's out there, it's pretty easy to just use that. Um, the water's already trickling kind of slow. Um, it is a little better sometimes if you hold your hand over the top of it when you start it to give it a little more air pressure in there. So, it does come out a little quicker cuz if you don't, it won't come up very fast and you're going to be there for an hour. So, um, I don't know with the new hose cuz there's a new hose. So, I haven't worked with the new hose yet, but the old hose was like that. So I will figure out how super the other one was like smush so it was a little slower to come out. So that's

okay. And I had one other question about hydrators. I remember we saw one, but do they need to be from the outer edge or just in among the plants like what's the best find it? I honestly don't know if that's a good thing to look at. Um did you just randomly place? I placed them before the plants got that big. So, in the bed that was like completely full, there are three in there. I can only get one. So, I'm going to try to get through in there and find the other two. So,

cuz there were six and then a deer broke one of them. So, I just found one. Um, so there's five of them, right? So, I need to find two of them that are under the bed that has gone amazingly insane. So, I don't even know Elsie. I know the last two. I think the biggest beach you've seen in the thing is the night shade. Is it true? The biggest. Yeah, it's everywhere. It was all over the the whole area before we started. So, I think that's the biggest. And I know there's two in there right now. There's like another one in there. The burger buffalo burger. Yeah, I really want to get back.

Yeah. So, just because um yeah, I don't think any slideshow, but these are the signs that are going to go in here today or tomorrow or tonight. So, this is the information so the kids can see and adults if they don't know. Um this is an life cycle. And then um this one is just saying that it's my goal to work project and then this one is saying that it is a registered station.

So these will be put in there probably's working on that post that you post right now. If you when you post some picture send them to us. Yeah. Okay.

Um, so with choosing the right plants, uh, the Lady Blower Center website is amazing. I use that so much. Um, you just look up your area and it's like it'll be like this is good. Or if you are looking if you're like, "Oh, I want this kit." You can look up that kit and see if it's good for your area. Um, I can't remember if that one told you if it was resistant or not, but I know it told you if it was invasive, if it planted,

but it helps so much. So, that one's a really good one if you're trying to find more things to stick in the garden or even at your house. Um, I don't. And then this is just the guidelines for how to make your own at you don't have to make it as big as one, but if you want to make the smaller version at home, it has the guidelines for it. And then on the next slide, I'm pretty sure I put the link to Marwatch, which takes you directly to where the guidelines are and where you can submit the application for your base station. We believe that is it for the slideshow. I think the last and then because it's a school Chromebook, it's not letting me share this with anybody, but I'm going to make a new one on my personal or my mom's email. And it's just going to be able form so people can fill out when they water if the city's helping. that way out and it just like it's optional to put their name, but they can put the date and if they want to write a description of how the garden was looking and then I have it set up to where it'll send it straight to a Google sheet and then you can have dates as clear as you go, but you'll have dates of when you dispersing So last game uh on the previous parks board when we started the park developing the parks one of our thoughts became that the tribal park is a gather space

and the creek side park is a playground and Augusta Park was to be a family are an educational family and so that's why the signs are important. The uh I spoke with someone involved with Boy Scouts yesterday and just reminded her that the Boy Scout is not with his son off his project yet and she was hopefully going to pass that on. And then there is a sign that I gave you all that you can decide where that goes from the uh lady plant society. And then there is a a good size sign this fish sign that comes from the meadow center from for water and

water and conservation water and is that right? Yeah, which I don't know if you all know about the center but it's a very important entity connected with Texas State University is in San Marcus. It's where Aaria Springs used to be. If you were a child it was taken to a springs back in the day. It's at that location. Anyway, they have a lovely sign about what the rain garden is and why we need rain and I think that's in the works with Jim. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. It's an explainer and it will nicely go on the on the side of the water because all that stuff is out there but if people don't know why,

you know, so that was sort of our big concept. Yes. I forgot. There's another sign that we might be putting out there and it's a QR code that goes straight to the slideshow. So then if they want to know how to make it, I'll put some a description of the QR code. That way they're not like scanning it and being like, I don't want to do this. So I'm just trying to make sure that I never goes away. So why the QR code then drop it. So I just need to make sure that this your slideshow

so that might be going off there. I'm going to let y'all know if it so that way everybody has access to that and then um if they had a meeting with neighbors and trying to get more involvement or ready to present and talk and you're available for available be like another like if you have like the neighbors come out we're trying to get them more involved in the garden and stuff so she'll be happy to come out and talk. She's a girl. Yes, it would be also. Yeah. Yes. Boy scouts on Monday,

right?

Thank you. Thank you. men do on those beds out there because they really look beautiful. They're flourishing. They're, you know, even in this watering we're doing, they're still doing great. They look wonderful. So, thank you. Yes. Thank you for letting her do this. We were all excited to make it work. So, we're very proud of it. Yes. Yes. I'm proud of you, Tam. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Yeah, that's my grandpa name.

Yeah. No, I mean we I've known Tatum, you know, she came to the office. That's the case. She was like the big So, I mean, so yeah, Na's been with us for 20 years, something like that. So, but we've known a whole family. She learned she learned to walk up on my best. Well, that was good. And now

now of our last meeting uh on July 26, 16th, sorry. Um different places, right? Okay. What's it called? A wind station. Yeah. It's like, you know, like a stop along the way, you know, on their on their migration, I think. Something something again. I travel all the way from like down here up to like Canada, right?

Yeah. And then down to Mexico. It's interesting that on the east coast it's Mexico and on the west coast it's Monteray California before they can convert in the center was interesting to me. We have any questions about the minutes of July 16th? No. Uh motion to approve.

Motion to approve the minutes of Jul. Sounds like we got a motion and a second and a second. I see a show of hands. Eyes have it. is our reading. Do I need to sign this one? Um, yeah, might as well

just Okay, our first item is to discuss and take possible actions regarding the November 9th tree giveaway. So, uh, talking to Cheryl the little bit that I have, um, and being looped in with the Lauren Savior,

Lauren Savior of Aqua, Texas, um, I do believe they're on board to do a lunch and learn or a afternoon and learn. Um and uh have beverages and snacks. Um and also have a educational person come out maybe a master naturalist or someone of the sorts. But I think this is November 9th is is a good date going forward. Um, I think I have a good source of relatively cheap trees, but in really good stock, so we can get a good amount for what we pay for.

Um, and this is done through uh two different sources. One of them the sources is over in Brennham, Texas. This is a good friend of mine um gave us a bunch of Mexican white oak a couple years ago. And then this other source is uh native TX over in Weberville. So Oh, you

I know some people as far as the educational portion. Uh what would y'all like to see? um as our um educational spotlight. I'll throw it out real quick. Uh Cheryl has an idea of going with the theme of um drought restrictions and drought tolerances. Um and I'm I I like that. The last couple tree giveaways we've done will be focused on oakwill. Um, now we could focus on Oakville once again,

but also it's an open floor, so they don't have to. I like the idea of that because Aqua Texas is going to be there because it's so room that we're not allowed to use. We're not allowed to water outdoor water. Um, but then we're also giving away trees and we need to be able to protect our trees. that just Yeah. So, um that led to now how we can do that as homes. Um uh continuing to to take care of our troops. Okay. When there's when we're in restrictions. So,

okay. I I like the theme. Um also, one more thing. I do think they're going to have two rainwater barrels to give away. Uh whether it be a raffle or I guess kind of however we choose if I understand it correctly. Uh so it'll be true giveaway and rainbow giveaway with I don't know the dimensions. Um They're probably just baptiz. This is the ones from the Methodist church. I sent them.

And this is I actually purchased one of these in several of a really nice you sent me that's what you were talking about one. Yeah, that's what I sent to Lauren. How many? And you told me how many 45 to 50 gallons. And you order from the website which is North Carolina where they may already you pick them up if you want of his choice.

They really so y'all will need to I guess I mean it says discuss take possible action. So it's like you know agree to you know do the do the thing on the 9th in conjunction with you know community relations committee and sponsored by you know law of Texas you know so who's so so we should decide what organization our educational speakers going to come from uh whether it's national uh plant society master natural master gardeners. Um,

I'll suggest something is on the Trinity Aquifer. Um, was it Bob? Which one? He he he sat with um Phil and I up there at the last Oh, um, not David Baker. David Baker. Yeah. Water show Association. Okay. So, uh would they be a good educational? Um probably except that they are arch enemies of our production as far. So, okay. Now, I I do like to uh I would like that.

I'll bring some boxing. We'll just like rope off the Okay. Yeah, they I mean it's not it's not great. Okay. I think I suggest one other resource is the county agent I went to Ruben A from the county agent is that Texas A&M I believe it's whoever sponsors our the extension office here

yeah and he told me he would be happy to do programs anywhere just didn't know and they did a lot and they also gave us a tour on the water containment they do behind the community center. It's sort of similar to Aldesta Park with a larger center, but he might there might be good possibilities.

Also, um Jeff, I keep getting these emails from you, Cheryl, about meeting on August 26 at 11 with Aqua Texas. I don't know, but I'm part of that. I I can't get any return phone calls from anybody. Yeah, I think I think that goes back to you know we said we had like leaons between the two between the two groups and um so Cheryl I guess is got news that you were the liaison on that program maybe. So I guess that's what that's about. But it's not coming from me. I mean I'm copy.

Okay, you're copy. Well, I just um who who is who will tell me Lauren Savior? Um like I don't know whether to participate or not. I've never been contacted. I just got those texts or emails and I've reached out on phone texts messages and I'm just not getting any responses. So to the community relations. side of that. Okay. Uh do you do you have Cheryl Miller's email address directly and you emailed her

and her new number? The first time she was in Florida. She said I'll call me when I get home. Okay. And that I want to talk to her at community garden. There was another thing with him that he was taking care of that. And I think now at least we're going to follow to superv know if I'm to participate in this meeting, if it's going to be Zoom or if it's going to be in person and I'm available, but

I don't know. I I believe it's going to be in person. Um, I would like for you to attend the meeting as uh the the parks and trees board on or um point of contact. Um so you you'd be talking to Cheryl directly to keep her updated and keep us updated on what they're doing. um because we do work in conjunction um on some events and event spaces. Um so if you're still interested, I mean definitely please attend the meeting, okay?

And I'll let I'll let you know. Um I'll reach out to Cheryl and just let her know that you've been trying to touch base with her. Something could be going on. Her phone she may have changed phone numbers or didn't she change phone number? I I think I even knew Yeah, I think we established what her name was. So it could have changed again. I hadn't talked to her since she uh well very much since she'd been back from Florida. Okay.

No telling what happened over there. So that's that's the 26 before our meeting on the 26 and 11. Should we have a suggestion of a speaker that time? Um I'm going have an idea. I mean, you know, y'all can y'all can decide make a motion say to, you know, reach out to the county extension agent, you know, as a as a potential speaker. Um and then and then you at least you don't really need a motion to that but it's probably better to have it on the record that you sort of decided to go that direction which I think is a really good one

and and to make contact and then you could bring that to the meeting on the 26 for sure. And didn't we talk about you doing a demo on on cutting limbs? A pruning demo was talked about. Um we that could be very easily done and real I mean a short demo you know identifying different branch unions and what to do in certain situations when we see um something that needs to be done like roof clearance is a really common one

u and and how to approach that less is more as far and the right paint and and the right paint. I mean that's a discussion. Yeah, I think the you know showing where exactly to make really it's always beneficial to you. So because it is hard to tell when you're doing it yourself. it is at home you're like, "Oh, you know, so we can we we can add that to our November 9th. We can have Yeah.

another event. I mean, I I'm kind of I I would kind of like to have an event every three months. So, four events every year. um just talking about trees and talking about art, talking about um rainwater collection and different gardening styles. Uh maybe that's not quite in our foresight, but it is.

Yeah, why could it? So, uh what I would like to do today is get three to five um sources of education for the November 9th and maybe we can reach out to each one, see which one's going to be a best component for our uh what we want to be educated on and also agree that this is the um this is what we want to be educated on. Not oak wils, not pruning, not planting, uh not mulching the correct way, but trout education.

Yeah. Is that does that include Texas Aqua? I think so. Yes. Maybe the extension major

uh potentially. So Aqua is going to float the bill. And when I say that, they're going to um show up with maybe some volunteers, have a beverages, maybe some snacks. Um they're they they're going to sponsor the event and they're going to if I mean, if this educational um source that we're going to use needs payment, would they pay for the education? what we normally would pay for any speakers program like this. I mean just they would like the county decided

that's not an honorary typically okay you know if you're flying somebody in told the story but we've never I don't know if you've ever played for a speaker we can fly to barber just very I had another thought and I'm not calling the name but the man that heads up to me. Yeah, he's good. Um, never heard him speak. I know I know Jenna pretty well. I don't know as well. Um Jenna,

Jenna is um Jenna I if you just put down meadow center as a source. So you got you got the the agriculture extension office, you got the meadow center. Aqua probably will say a few words um about I mean it's and it probably would be Lauren because she's the environmental she's in the environmental office of a Texas. So she could she could not give a speech but you know say a few words about about panel discussion like we had what did y'all feel like that was successful at our last meeting or

it wasn't only because it wasn't well moderated was just like the the panel didn't really have much time had I mean she went on so long on the on the oak world thing that we didn't have a panel she kind answered everything in her presentation and we just reset it. Yeah. Yeah. So, it was fun. I got to meet Baker. Yeah. David Baker. Yeah. He's an interesting guy. What do you all think of? Um, I know I mentioned uh tree bugs

tree. And when I first talked to Lauren, it was like, okay, let's get, you know, maybe somebody from the native plant society or or the master naturalist. I mean, it could go either way for those. Either of those is good. Oh, talking about tree folks. I reached out to them for our last event and they just they said that coming here was not really within their realm of what they're supporting. I think they're Austin based and do big plantings like a thousand trees. So I don't think

but national uh natural plant NPS I think uh native native plant society is um active around here they are. So that would be a great choice if you have if you didn't have contact person.

We did 50 last year. 50 and how did we determine who to go to? They signed up online. They s Yeah, Cheryl put together a really good uh signup sheet. We went through 25 and almost immediately but hardly. So, uh, we petitioned to get 25 more and, uh, those went pretty quick, too. For education, do do we you have to look after information to know how to plant the tree and water it to keep it going and keep it alive? That was part of it. Yeah.

There were there were handouts, there were some some pamphlets. Um we did make them sign a um sign off that they they would take care of them with um nonpable water. So they sort of signed this is this going to be enough water to keep the trees alive that they plant. Oh land one. Yeah. just the one that's is probably going to take some photoable water to to keep those trees going, right? Because

there's other methods of gaining like non-potable water. Uh, one of Iris's really big ones was um condensation from your AC unit. That's a couple gallons a day. Yeah, I get I get five gallons every two to three days. Five off our small off the small air conditioner. Really? Wow. Not sinks. Yeah. Yeah. I've always thought about sinks. If you had a some You have to have some kind of trap to separate.

Yeah. And and then the soap is not really good. The oil and the soap is not when I talk county agent about that. He said that's the only water that I did not recommend this kitchen safe water. That's what I thought. Um, but you know, I just thought teaching people how to take advantage of this air conditioning drip water and lots of people have no idea. And so if if someone could speak to that as to how to find mine is a little hot coming out of the wall and I have a bucket there and it works great, but a lot of people may not know that.

Yeah. I get more than he does, but this is my main unit. I I would say we get well I empty it sometimes twice a day and I have probably a four gallon. I have a big tub like wow, but it's very acidic. So, what I'm doing is mixing that water with my alkaline water that comes out of the shower and hit the sink to make the pH drop. Because some plants cannot thrive in acidic water. And why it's acidic? I don't know. The same thing with my dehumidifiers in my house. The water I collect, it's real acidic.

Do you have a softener? Do you have a water softener? Yes. Uhhuh. But this is the air the air water the water from my softener is Oh yeah. Okay. And the reason I know that I purchased a lettuce scrub system which is a hydroponics or hy and so I have to measure my pH. So I thought well I'm going to measure all my pHes and I was just really what a difference is but now rainwater is right in the middle. So that's what you live on if you can catch one still. It's just it's not

the thing with the rain barrel. Okay. So you get one and say, "Oh, this really works. I'm going to get another. I got another one. Now I got 10." Really? I was thinking about getting like 250, but I need to Yeah. I mean, if I had to do it over, I would get a big one. If you got space for it. I do. We got when we moved in, there were barrels there, but they'd let them get algae and mold and beats and it was just things alive in there. They do have to be clean.

Well, our neighbors were willing to take that on, so we gave up. That's what I'm thinking is what Yeah. Judy's going to advise me. Um, so I was actually looking at it. So, did we discuss a time a time frame? Cuz if we if we need to I I didn't have it on here for the November 9th uh tree giveaway. It's a Sunday. Okay. So whatever we

don't have we don't have is aware good good thing and my thought was we need to rotate parts so people can see the parts you know see what we have but I don't know if we have another facility that would accommodate a large group well um so we have Augusta, the Triangle, and technically Creek Side is well, Creekide is a park for sure, but not a park that we can really gather gather at. I mean, park is nice, but

Memorial Park parking would be good. Two spaces and it's right there 12. I see that the drive park is a good place to be. Central is very visible to it's open. Yeah, got really good shape.

I like triangle. Show show hands for the triangle part. Oh, you gota make if you're gonna do Yeah, you really need I mean we need to you know make a motion to to go forward with the planning to reach out to speakers um and the the the desired location. Okay. So get that get that down. We did that. I can take a stab at it. Do what? I can take a stab at it. Which one?

Oh, making a motion. Um, well, can we uh just get some clarification on what we're who who we're going to contact, what we're going to do, our educational components. Um, I think we have a pretty good idea. Um, what I have here is five educational sources. Um, and I I I got this one. Was it the watershed Texas&M uh meadow center? What was this for? And uh you

master naturalist. But we really how we're going to move forward. We don't have to have all good answers. Well, no. Yeah. Just uh we I can do that. I can try to make decision. We I think we can. Yeah. Please do.

Okay. Uh I make a motion that we proceed with uh the uh November the 9th uh treat them away from 3 to 5:00 p.m. at the triangle. And it will include a partnership with Texas Aqua that will uh sponsoring uh uh not entertainment but refreshments and we will be contacting a and they will provide an educational component and we will be contacting different agencies for speakers and presentations including the extension agent Texas a notes the meadow center uh the native plant society who list

uh potentially ambassador gardeners did you say Texas members no extension well then why don't we make that Texas that makes it clear is it Texas agra life is is that the name that's part of it and um you know procedure back plan filling in the details. Yeah, that's seriously it triang

in the past some of these agencies would just have a table with them other stuff that I think really to decide how many actual speakers we bought, how much time limited, and then whether or not someone just come. Yeah, you're going to want to you're going to want to have some of the speakers nailed down before you start talking about

speaking times and things, but anytime that we've had a speaker of come, they automated a good booth. Some say, "I don't let anyone talk. I'd love to have boo, you know, so we we can do both. So, as we reach out to some of these folks, I say, "Well, would you just like to come and, you know, bring some stuff and display a little?" So, answer your questions. Yeah. So, and people like that. Yeah. Do y'all think Tatum Davis would like to speak as an educational source?

Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm I'm still a little with Monarch Station. I think that would be very interesting, but I don't think as a speaker triangle. Yeah, he needs to speak at what he does, which could be your next support

um second. You can vote on motion. Yeah, let's vote on the motion. Do I see a show of hands uh for Linda's voice about where the Triangle Park uh the November 9th tree giveaway at Triangle Park 3 to 5 all the all the educational sources we Judy second oh yeah I have it any more discuss discussion on this. Any questions? Well, your next item is really associated with

uh item number two, discuss and take possible action to coordinate a lunch and low with Texas for educational purposes. So, you basically combine those two items in the first discussion. So, you know, as far as it goes, you can just pass on it. Okay. Unless you want to do something specific, you've already said who you want to contact on the institutional component. always said you're going to do August.

All right. Discuss uh trees and parks board budget line items to the fiscal year 25 to 26. Um, so I can't remember who brought it to our attention, but uh, we asked for $10,000 and that's the match for the grant that Chris uh, Drummer is applying for. So, I think we should ask for what what branch of the uh trees from uh Texas Parks in my life.

Uh $10,000 match. $10,000 match. That doesn't that's not our budget. No, but when y'all were talking about your budget, you were talking about, you know, paying somebody to help with, you know, landscape maintenance and stuff like that. That's a bad way to tend that. So the match wouldn't come out. You don't want it. Yeah. You don't want to No, my understanding might be wrong, but my understanding was that's we're going to put the match money is in the parks or the trees budget, but our money would be $10,000. So you're going to put that somewhere else. Um, there any conversation that I can remember talking about about a $10,000 match.

Really good. Huh. Okay. I just I mean that would be that's like a $100,000 or $50,000 grant. I think it was$10,000 from them and 10,000 from the city for the trees. So that's a that would be a 50% match, right? Um the need to $20,000 budget because what y'all talk about and you need to have a prior you need to have a detailed budget now. You need you need to say yeah because we we did the figuring did the mental math anyway. Okay. We were gonna get what's it stone cipher or Kelly or somebody to come in

and do specifically native maintenance you know so to to do you know special care of Augusta Park help with the planning around gazebo it's ready to go that kind of stuff. Um, you know, that's that was a big part of the budget. And then you also had the budget to buy the trees for the for the giveaway and right,

you know, and anything that you want to do for that was that was that was more way than then you don't want your entire budget eaten up by a by a grand mass that you might not even get. No, but well yes could be wrong but I thought we were talking about Chris working with Texas Parks and Wildlife for a grant of $10,000 and the city would match it with 10,000 and then we would have 10,000 as a budget come up with the maintenance of

Well, that's what you need to talk about because if there's a if there's a if there's a match somewhere, they're not going to Yeah. the city would have to say, "Okay, we're going to put another 10,000 in the tree and Burkeboard budget, you know, for the Oak Central match." But but right now, your budget is has been discussed by the council and is and is up for approval once you all say this is what we want to do. Yeah. Is $10,000. And and it there was never any discussion that I heard about about that going to a match. Well, not that heard about Okay. It was Okay. It may have been for Chris, but that's all right. I He was

um Well, so now that we are on the subject, we can nail down what we're going to do with this $10,000. Um I will say that there's roughly $5,000 in a separate budget just to uh buy trees. So buying trees can come out of this $5,000 budget. U maybe even the labor to plant these trees or is it

Yeah. So these are trees like Okay. So we need to we need to place trees you know at you know this um road island street island you know where we've lost trees. We want to do some more planting there or something like that. Y'all can do that. That's what that money is for. You would you wouldn't buy you wouldn't use to buy for the trigger. Okay. We already have 5,000 for that. Uh yes, sir. And that's been that's a separate that's a separate line item. It's not it's not your committee. Your committee has access to those funds. Um but it's not your trees and parks board.

Right. I I wanted to bring that up just so once we uh do get this ball rolling on this conversation, we're not adding um the price of trees into our $10,000 budget. Uh so this So that's not unless we go over the $5,000. Do you know if the trait was false? Um, so if I remember correctly, um, the onegon trees that we gave away were roughly $10 a piece. Um, so that's 70 of them. Are we doing 70 this year? No, I I don't know how many.

Uh, we had 50. Uh, 50 total. And then there was also Wilbur. Wilbur I think was around $150, maybe a little bit less. Um, goodiz trees for the price doing I don't know who Wilbur is. Is he's the desert willow. The desert willow at August. Yeah. Yeah, I've met him. Willow. Um, so Wow, that's interesting. Were they $10?

I can't remember now. The little ones. The little ones. I think they were about 10. Um, so you don't have a definite figure yet. Not yet. I'm going off of uh the same resources that I used last time. I'm going to use again because that was a great stock. Yeah. Um, and really good prices. They were wonderful. Oh, yeah. Good trade. Still alive. Good night. And you you have a southern southern magnolia two and a desert willow. So the southern magnolia are doing okay. It's doing great. I haven't put it in the ground yet because of the drought. Uhhuh. So I'm keeping it in the pot, but I'm about to have to move it to a bigger pot. So how tall is it?

It's not that tall. It's about like that. Well, that's about three times the size that you got it. It's nice and healthy. Good. That's what I like to hear. you know that that will be nice for somebody 50 years from now. Oh yeah. So do we want to go with another 50? Do we want to go with maybe a larger size? Um well yeah I would should the budget be for our tree giveaway? I didn't think the budget to be

October is the start of our new fiscal year. Oh, okay. Because you what I remember we talked about the last time is the trees are the best thing we can do, you know, unless we have other things specifically. And the other thing specifically were the maintenance and that goes to the city, right? the maintenance of parks. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Other events that we're going to have. Um That's right. If if we I mean quarterly events I would love to see.

That'd be fun. Um events similar to Austin's it's my park day. They just they get a bunch of mulch and they have volunteers. wheelbarrow vulture island mulch trees or trails. Um, let's see. It's my park day. It's my um as well as improving our parks. I mean, maybe there could be some benches involved. Um, trails being yes or no.

Um, for creek side, I haven't actually Do does it get enough shade from the trees? Do we need a shade um sail over the shade over the uh playground? I I I know there's some somewhat tall cedar elms growing over the playscape. Um I'm not sure about the swinging area towards the back. It's pretty well I mean we looked into it when we were first looking at the plans for that. We looked into some kind of a shake and it was like really expensive like six fig

was so expensive shade put a shade like a big canopy over the playground area. So we said oh those trees are nice. Yeah. very shady. When when does that part mostly in the morning? Uh right now I'm thinking or afternoon. Yeah. Right now it's not used at all. It's closed. Yeah. You know. Oh yeah. The bathroom will be finished probably mid September.

Perfect time. I mean that's when weather cools down. So, but but when when we can open it back up again, you know, with school in session, you know, you know, the you know, parent the little ones, you know, might go down there another day, but the school kid that we have in school. So, the sale did get me to thinking, uh, the playground's has mulch coverage, right? It's getting bolt eventually that's going to have to be replaced. No, it's not in your budget. Modern budget.

No, that's that's part of maintenance. I mean, now you can say council, you need to you know, we've been checking that out, but they're going to need to be replaced. You look back. Okay. But but but y'all y'all are not your responsibility li sort of overseeing it and saying, "Hey, this is a problem." But like for instance, you mention, oh yeah, it' be nice to make some improvements. Maybe another bench down there or something like that. That's something you can put. Okay.

You know, and say, okay, well, we need, you know, we need, you know, something at Creek Side Park or for instance, they talk about putting some sort of a sensory garden, you know, that, you know, you know, kid-friendly sensory garden in Creek Side Park, but we're going to have water. There's going to be a big rain tank there. Mhm. But essential just just something that you know the kids can get in and learn about learn about plants but but you know can like kind of like go Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Like you a lamb sees.

Yeah. Something to party. Um, but we will have I don't know how many gallons the water tank's going to be, but it's probably going to be about like what's at the gazebo that size. So, there'll be plenty of irrigation opportunity. Did you guys talk about having carts in the big style versus having a dust? That wasn't I mean, too bad Vicky's not still here. She was she was the loose parts lady. Um but uh but that was

No, I mean the closest thing there is there is that you know they got some they left some stumps and things that that I noticed kids jumping around. Jacob was Yeah. I mean that would be something that definitely do. Um, Jacob was kind enough to u when when he took out our wonderful tree in the back and sliced it up into playable parts that were going to the library into Augusta Park,

but um kind of went to some of the some of the work that's done for the ADA accessibility part because everything's got to be within um easy access from the handicap space that's going in there. So the so the loose parts Yeah. will move, you know, close to that. Um the uh But if we just moved it, what if we just put it in group side? We could do something in group side as well. Okay. So you want you're thinking both

there. I want Yeah, I I was just looking at that space that's closest to the creek that pretty open. Um, you know, I don't know what all the other loose parts. What happened with the what happened with the loose parts? Um, is some of it was just natural. Yours a stick.

You're a rock. Look at that. Um, but there were some things that were available for purchase that were, you know, kind of that would be kind of fun to play with and those were in the budget. Um, but it was in the Ozac budget for the grant and um and so it just wasn't it wasn't handled well. The the committee did not put it together, send it to council, council approve it, and then it gets done. Um, so by the time that all tried to start happening, the POSAC money was gone. And not only that, well, it wasn't gone. It was just there was a little bit of money left over in POSAT grant. But um, but then we found out that all the parts had to be ADA compliant. Um, as part of the act,

what does that mean? ADA compliant. How do you make them parts? You just make it close to area. So if you got if you've got like like handicap parking Yeah. and a way for somebody to get into the playground area and their wheelchair and around in the wheelchair. As long as those loose parts are somewhere where they can access them, you know, you're fine. If if the end of the wheelchair path is here and the loose parts over there, you know, you're done for. So you just have to give those kids every opportunity the other kids would have. So that's so that's not a big deal. So that would be eas.

Yeah. And there there nothing wrong with that. But but again, y'all need to say, okay, we would like to go back to the concept of loose parts and um and put 5,000 $500 in the button or or whatever. So, what I've been I've made a couple months, but what I'm trying to do is get you all to say, "Okay, we we we got 10,000 bucks. This much is going to go to, you know, loose parts. This much is going to go to, you know, another parkment somewhere. Um, we're going to hire somebody to take special care of the native plants at in all the parks, and that's 25 bucks an hour for 20 hours a month for 12 months. That's $6 right there,

you know. So, and that's just money I'm just pulling out out of the air. I don't know if that's what it is, but it seems reasonable. Okay. So, we have tree giveaway. That was

Yeah. So, three gifts away 50 50 trees at $10 a piece. That's 500 bucks. If you do, you know, a a prize tree, you know, a Wilbur five tree, maybe that's not 150. maybe it's 300 bucks you put in the budget for that. Um if you're going to if you're going to buy some decorations, you throw, you know, a couple hundred bucks in for that, you know, but all these things have to be, you know, somewhat detailed for the council and go, okay, we we really have Arbor Day.

Arbor Day Arbor Day's uh up in April. And we've got this is for the 256 bud, right? Correct. All the way through next October. Correct. Is that correct? Okay. October to October or September. Okay. Yeah. Through September. Maybe. Would you call them that? Ones if we wanted to. Is that what you would call them? Like the like the larger trees? Yeah. Call them specine trees. Anything we want. Call it a memorial tree. Okay.

Um trees. Yeah, we've got 15. And if we get two memorial or specimen trees, let's just say 300. So that's eight. And then round up and round up to a thousand. I mean, and how about we'll throw the 200 bucks in there for 200 decorations. Decorations. Okay. I was thinking about, you know, money for the uh quarterly events be the decor, you know, whatever we use. Uh so, let's just stick with the tree giveaway on November 9th for now.

Uh we could even duplicate that and and use that exact same figure or figure close to it for the Arbor Day celebration. Okay. So that's 2000.

Um, another item we can do is park improvements. Um, uh, get a rough idea of what park improvements we want to do in a budget there. Uh, we could say $5,000. You you just blow your bud. Yeah, we're up to If you're gonna hire somebody to do Oh, hire someone. Hire somebody to do maintenance, you know. So, I probably fairly conservative about $6,000 there. Yeah. I wasn't including that. I was starting from scratch. Uh because the maintenance is with the city, right?

I'm sorry, the maintenance is with the city. No, no, it's not with the city. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah. Okay. So, so here's so general maintenance mowing, you know, somebody coming up and mowing the park that is included in general city maintenance. Okay.

Um what this request was, it's kind of like this stone cipher thing that no, we're going to come in and do it and it's on your agenda later. We're going to just, you know, completely redo Augusta Park, right? Well, that led to I don't really want to redo it. I guess that's a part, but it would be good to have somebody who understands native plants. I think um Becket Bruner, who is our land management guy, knows how to run a mower over Triangle Park and mow everything down and maybe throw some mulch around. But as far as saying, okay, that is a native plant that we're trying to protect and and grow and propagate. we're going to plant some more. That's not what he does.

Okay. So, to have some specialized support in in those areas, you say, "Okay, so and we have to get, you know, we have to get bids on it and and bring it back to y'all." So, maybe we want to recommend this person or this company to do that council. Does that Does that include watering?

It could. Yeah. So, so for instance, it's like it's like, okay, for if I'm if I'm, you know, a landscape person that that has some expertise in natives, I say, okay, well, here's my deal. I take $100 an hour. I think, you know, that it's going to take a few hours a week. Um, some more than others. Probably have to kind of dig up and plan around the triangle. that's another something or another. So that's where they intended that we're going to do that and see that stuff happen. You know, you got to vote for.

Now, the other thing is that y'all said, "No, no, we want to do that and we want to do a lot more." I mean, you go back to the council and say, "No, we need more than $10,000, right?" Yeah, but but we've but we've been working and we've been going through the budget workshops and have got it down to where we've got basically a balanced budget right now without any changes that we're trying to get approved because we're on a we're on a deadline. Yep. Yeah. So So we've been working from a figure 10,000 but for recent parks. Got it. Uh, we didn't include uh uh a cost for planting the trees uh anywhere, right? No, that that's another budget.

Yeah, that can come out of the other budget as long as we don't exceed Okay, that five that roughly five it's a little over $5,000 is what I was hearing. Um, okay. Yeah. Right now, Jeff has come up with $6,000 for park maintenance. Uh, that's 20 hours a month. Is that what you I'm just repeating. So, right now I said, okay, so what I the figures I threw in there, I don't know if this is raised or not. Um, it seems like, but I I said $25 an hour

times 20 hours a month, you know, five hours a week basically times 12 months with $6,000. Okay.

And that may be actually it's three hours here, but we're going to spend half of it just doing around the gazebo, you know. So, so that's where what so, so y'all come up with a bud say, "Okay, we want to do these things in that $10,000 budget." Council said, "Okay." Then, you know, then you go back and you say, "We want we're going to get this contract with this person or or company to do this work for $6,000." Then it goes back to council again. council says, "Okay, we approved that contract. Go ahead, Jim." You know, y'all can't spend money,

right? You know, only Jim can make the contact or make the call to say, "Go out and do this work over there, but you can you can kind of supervise Jim in the thing and then oversee, you know, the operation." But but it gets it gets it gets just really weird. And then you might want to make changes as you get into it. But that would be a contractual. Yeah. But if you've got banking, the thing that's nice is if you've got somebody under contract, this is our native person. Um, then you got a lot of flexibility that if you're doing peace meal, you don't have the same flexibility for because the council approves it. They approved for the year. Yeah.

You don't have to keep going back to them with that kind. That's why we have the land management. that we have Becket and Lane Management. That's why we've hired the um the city of Arborous. Um you know, so so that's why some of those contracts are in place. It's just like we just need somebody on call. You know, we don't want to have to go up for bids or do anything else. So that's what I would be shooting for y'all. Okay. So we we're up to 8,000 if we do the 6,000. Do we agree on the 6,000? Does that seem reasonable? Yeah. I about

Well, we may find out when they once we start getting some some goods. They may say, "No way in Ohio." You say, "Okay, well, we just have to cut down on the amount of time we use." Right. Yeah. Or or we just need to focus on, you know, come out once every two months and take a look. But but it would be nice to be able to get, you know, the triangle spruced up. I mean, we've been waiting because I know we got to build a gazebo water thing and and we've got basic plans for it that have been approved. You know, Deborah Deborah drew up some some, you know, concept of, you know, what that would look like around the edge of the gazebo.

Just a little bed around the gazebo. Yeah. So, I mean, there hasn't been done. It's just that now it's falling on y'all to go, "Yeah, let's do this thing." Okay. If you want to. So, we Yeah, we haven't even been able to get any maintenance over at Augusta yet. So, um and I don't think I know you mentioned uh you know, you want to bring uh uh Jonah Stone Cipher in that he's not really a candidate necessarily for maintenance, which really are. He might he might want. No, he he could very well. I was counting on him being a candidate.

Oh, bet. So So we at least have one name. Yeah. For a potential mate person. Okay. So, one of the things that you're going to want to do, and you can do it now or you can do it, you know, later under veget or whatever, is ask council to um approve staff going out for proposals for this work. Send out an RFP. Yeah. Yeah. Staff, that's another thing. Staff has I mean, we can talk to him. Hey, are you interested? Okay. So, we'll make sure that Jim has your number. Yeah. Um, but y'all can't negotiate deals, you can't make deals, but you can get information,

right?

You know, so, so we know that we know that Jones is a very good potential candidate. Becky didn't have somebody that that she wanted to recommend good potential candidate. So, we just get, you know, and you don't have to, you don't have to choose the low fit either. You know, you can you can look at it and go, "No, we what the what your group would do is say, okay, Jim, you know, okay, you get approval from the council to go up with this." So, Jim gets the bids and you all review them and say, "Well, we think candidate X is, you know, the best for for what we want to do. We would like to make that recommendation." Council council then says, "Okay, good idea. We'll do that." They approve it, Jim, son, we're done. And then they're on board virtually forever. I mean, I mean, it doesn't have to go away. I mean, it can be rebudgeted every year. The budget can change every year,

but if you've got somebody that's doing the work and doing it well, it keep them. Yeah. But, but I'm sorry there's such a process to it. It's just, you know, it is what it is. Excuse me. I have a responsibility to reach out to these people like John or like the lady Becky recommended like one of us. So is that what you're saying?

Yeah. You you you you can you know you can have some I mean what you what you need is three potential beds. I can think of three right now. Um that that you know would be you know probably Jonah this Kelly woman um maybe um Christa Danette who we've been working with um on doing some work for the city um but she also has a landscape I just don't know how focused she is on natives but I know she was um but you know the other thing might be then you have a conversation with the native plant society um and Hey,

it's true.

We're looking for a a contractor. Um, do you have anybody you might recommend that really understands focuses on on native plants? We will want them to do some, you know, sort of specialized weeding, watering, you know, planting, mulching, you know, just keeping things planned. And then we've got one big project that needs to be put in and then maintained at the at the depot. and maybe if we do the sensory garden, you know, at the creek side, you know, those are all things that under y'all's perview and oversight, um, you know, that that, you know, this company or person could do it.

Just so I understand, we would perhaps give three names to Chip. We would he would take it out. We would make a formal we're recommending that you contact these people should go and he could he could add more more than three more.

Yeah. Generally, you know, on on a on a contract of this size um and and I may be speaking I mean it may be 5,000 that is the the um bid limit that it's 5,000 or under. You don't have to go for three bids. You can just make a choice, but you still have to have something to to choose from. So, so we'll have to get get clarification. I still stick with 6,000. I think it's a a magic number. In other words, if it's 6,000 and it's got to go up the bid, you know, you put in paper, you know, ask for, you know, add proposals. Whereas, if you don't have to go through that process, you can just jump. So we present council with that line of in our budget and we get the three proposals and that

right that's essentially could you give us a job description like you just so contacting these people that's that would be the first question what we want what's involved It would be in the So I thought that is so good what as you laid it out. Okay. Yeah. Just have a job description.

Yeah. When when it does no when when it gets to the point where um where you say, "Okay, we we're asking council to do that." Then we would that would be in the cover sheet that goes to the council agenda. And I I was certainly helped by that. That's so all we have to do is come up with three nothing. So I've used the three people. Yeah. But if you're talking if you're talking to those three people, they kind of you kind of need to do this. Can you tell us so we would see that? Yeah. Because I don't mind contacting anyone. I've talked with the Kelly lady

in the past when John submitted and at that time she just broken her wrist uninterested. But I think perhaps she is. Yeah, she was interested. And then I I hadn't heard anything new in a while. So I guess we're just saying we need to have this discussion first and then make that happen. So those are too and so we would need like you said we could reach out to the plan. Yeah. And yeah, I can I can um

And do we need a deadline as to when they would need to submit? Well, that's down the road. We're just We're a little bit different for that. But, you know, it would be nice to get it done, you know, pretty soon because we're, you know, we're going to lose planting season here pretty soon. Yeah. A lot of this stuff needs to go in the fall so it can develop the fruits over the winter. And how do we get a budget? So say we come up with this budget, how do we get it to council and stuff? Does that go for you? Like how

Yeah. So um so basically y'all don't make a motion to, you know, adopt this $10,000 budget that includes, you know, these these line items. you know that that goes I think I might have it on the agenda for se or I might have it on the agenda for can't remember but it would be either now or September 10th um that would be voted on that yes so we're putting that in the budget as is then then was basically a done deal but it's still remember it's still for the 25 26 fiscal year which October 1st so that doesn't mean you start talking to people and getting some stuff done, but you can't hire anybody until

I'm Captain Bill. So, so we're we're still up to 8,000. I had a couple other notes if you would if you wanted. You talked about doing another couple of events, right? You know, um and you don't know what they're going to be yet. you know, but but they'd be probably like like if it's Tum that'd be a smaller um you know, maybe you do two more events at 500 bucks a piece. So that's another $1,000. Then if you did park improvements, maybe L Park Boys, maybe a bench, I don't know, just that could be another $1,000 that's your 10,000 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. 500 short.

No, no, you do two events 500. Oh, okay. Two events. Yeah. Yeah. That's 10,000 right there with the right $1,000 in park improvements and then two $500 events, right? And right now this is a big 35,000 foot. You know, that's that's got um got some detail to it, but not a ton. But you want you want council to say, "Okay, I agree that I agree that you we need to have that unscaped. agree that I mean because they'll they will nitpick it. Yeah.

Or maybe they should say and then let it go. But sometimes they're just you know I don't know you know I think $800 per arbor day. Yeah. How much is that going to be? Yeah. Right. So so so right now we're just putting in you know sort of round reasonable numbers for reasonable things that trees and parks wants to do. And what's the next step with that reasonable budget?

Okay, so y'all vote to pass it. Y'all, you'll make a motion, you know, to pass, you know, the the um the budget that includes, you know, $1,000 for, you know, the tree giveaway, $6,000 for um landscape maintenance focusing on native plants, $1,000 on on materials for park improvement, um $1,000 for the Harbor day event and um two other events at at $500. Now they they may argue on the Arbor Day stuff that says that okay well that's the community relations budget but community relations doesn't have this level of detail. So it's like they they you may be saying okay yeah we just want to make sure

they don't know where our plans are. So how can they budget for it? And we wanted in our budget that you know they will spend. No problem. Yeah. And the line item should clarify that pretty detailed. It's pretty clean. Yeah. Pretty clear. But when I we're in a council meeting in budget discussions, you know, I unless somebody wants to come and represent the committee, you know, to the council, I'm your voice of counsel. Um, so, so you're in a really dick point. Good luck. Oh, man. I can try. Okay.

Okay. Uh, I make a motion that we submit a budget for, uh, trees and barks for 2025 to 2026. Um, for trees, yes, I said that. uh to cover the following line items. And I don't have my glasses on. So, uh for um for uh the November 39 tree giveaway, uh 50 trees, one gallon trees at $10 each. Two just just make a round figure. We'll get it. We'll we'll give them the detail about you. You don't need to break down the

Don't have to break down. No, just just say $1,000. Okay. $1,000 for uh the November 9th tree giveaway. And um let's see. Decorations $200. Arbor Day. No, no, don't don't don't break down those. Okay. Will you I'll just just leave it as thousand. Okay. Just leave it as a thousand for that. I see what you're saying. Okay. I'll give them the details. So, what you want to do is $1,000 for tree giveaways, $6,700 for um landscape support in parks for our native plants.

And I also have arbor day because we have the giveaway on November 9th and then we have the Arbor Day with the same amount of money. That's a $1,000. So, we're up to 2,000. Um, we have the uh contract that you were just talking about for 6,000 for uh uh special maintenance of native plants, watering and maintenance. That's what we'll go over for an RFB and um $1,000 for park improvements. Did that that come up to it?

Mhm. It's the motion with better language. What's the total? 10,000. 10,000. Second. I'll second. Show of hands. Eyes out.

Yes. How much are they? Thousand thousand and a thousand. Yeah. Thousand for each with the same claim. We just don't come to plan.

Any more discussion? All right, we'll move on to um item number four. We're going to discuss and discuss potential tree planting areas in within the city. New tree planting areas. Uh this is when that five. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right.

Uh, so with new roads and oakill trees have been removed. Uh, specifically over the place I'm thinking of is Brook Meadow. Uh, the road divides going around where trees used to exist. Uh, those trees were removed and they need to be replaced. There's nothing there. I think there's a sage bush there right now. Maybe a mountain coral. Um, but we need a good tree there. Um, is there just one space? It's just one space. The road, it splits the road in half. Uh, so it's kind of like a little byway.

Yeah. Um, right there close to the entrance of Brook Meadow and Shady Road. Yeah. Shady Road. Yeah. We talking about putting in a pretty big tree.

I think a pretty big tree. Um, of course, you know, uh, if we go too big, then it potentially would, uh, the root ball would interfere with the road. So, we need kind of an expert opinion of what size tree we could put there at a maximum, what that and what that would cost. um ideally under the $5,000 budget. Uh what was there was a group of roughly six large live oaks in a bont. Um I was thinking just one tree with an excurren straight up uh conifle growth pattern. That way it wouldn't interfere with uh line of sight or cars hitting it as it's growing. Um and it could be easily maintained. It's not something that's going to spraw out over the road like these light oaks do.

What are some suggestions for the top of true? Yeah. What are some of those that grow like that? because we don't want them spreading out like this beautiful. Um so in in this area uh common trees that do that are cedar, pecan, um red oaks, Monterey oaks, chinkapen oaks. Um, of course we may be a little hesitant on planting red oaks. Right. Right. Telling people not to. I'm telling people not

that. So, uh, and and like red buds do spread out too much. Uh, red buds don't Yeah, dread buds. They they start to lean over after a while. Uh, they're typically just short and spotty. Monterey oaks. Monterey oaks are beautiful. Um they

they're also deciduous evergreens. Um their oak wilt tolerance is a little higher quite a bit higher than red oaks, a little higher than your live oaks. Um with the trees that are already around that area which are live oaks and cedar elms uh the chances of root grafting which is the major way oak will travels from tree to tree um is not very common um because they're two different species of oaks. So the six that were there, were they Oakwell?

According to Iris, they had oak and they were removed by Garcia some kind of it was probably that oak because that's the tree that I was talking to you about on my son's property. It's right for part of the same um yes root network. I wouldn't be surprised either. Um I do know that they were in heavy decline when they were removed. So uh given this the area I mean uh the amount of risk has to be minimum. Yeah.

Uh it's in a roadway where people walk, cars drive. Um very utilized areas. Any other places that people have in mind? Any other any other places? I mean this tomorrow. You're so 110 the gust of rain. Oh, you're funny. You're funny. That's the end of the road. So about

um trees. I mean large my price for a 100gallon tree which is about the the the trunk would be about the size to not fit. Um, it would go in the ground and be roughly 10 to 12 ft tall at the time of planting. Um, that would run around $500 just on tree itself. Now, it's a wholesale price and I think it would be a good idea to go ahead and get a wholesale tree and then find someone to plant it. I think we could get a bunch

about the same price. Well, you know, in that area, too, cuz that's going to be hard to They got to take the stumps out. Yeah. It cost twice as much to plant as the other. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Easily. So, u So, maybe if we could source the tree here. And what's the purpose of putting another tree up? It's an empty space. Eventually, people are just going to start driving over it. Uh I mean it's a dirt spot in the middle of the road. Um trees were removed there and my understanding of ordinance is tree that the tree has to be replaced.

It's just it's just a sort of unique tree. It is we lost ours on Brook. Yeah. I miss that tree. when are you on the corner if they're calling? Yeah. Uh okay. Okay. Country uh um you know and other planting sites it could be there's a couple trees removed at Augusta uh during the 20 21 20 ice apocalypse.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we lost some couple notes didn't make it. But is that on private property or No, no, it's not on city property. Those you're talking. No, no, he's talking about Augusta Park. Augusta Park. So, just a couple more trees or a tree Augusta Park. Um, and the reason I'd like to talk about this now is now is the best time to start planning. Uh, because we're still in our hot season. If we get something in the works, maybe we can get something done by February. I wouldn't like to do anything past March. Yeah. So, we got a a little bit of time.

Yeah. And again, this is something that we say, okay, we want we want, you know, $2,000, whatever, to replace the tree that the trees that were lost in road. That goes council. council. So anyone from that particular budget line item, you know, rather than your committee budget line. Oh yeah. So you have to you have to ask the council to do it from that budget. So they just put it on their agenda and say, "Okay, so yeah." And then they say, "Okay, y'all find yourself. You're okay to do it. Gentlemen, make it happen."

Okay. So is it fair to say a moderate size tree at 500 and then planting it at a th00and suggest it was you know I would say planting it at yeah I guess a thousand I mean um that's I was kind of thinking 1500 because there's also some removal involved there. There's old tree sumps there. Um, as long as somebody can explain, that's why it's part of that much, right? It makes sense to me.

I I would, but they're going to have to probably bring in heavy equipment that excavator. Um, so does that sound good? And should we get protection for mutually or will we have to build cages and to keep cost running over it as I think a deer cage at the most would be good. I mean, we're not planting the tree this big. We're planting a tree this big. There's nothing there. No better thought. It's just

that I think there's two other little plants. There's no barrier. There's no uh anything. There's a road sign that tells you that it's coming up to the swerve. Go look at it. I can't remember what's what's there. I mean, it hadn't been more people run into the Brook planter, which is like Oh my gosh. Yeah. We'll see. I'll see. But I'm trying to think if there is a sign in other other places where we've got the the road islands have directional signs in them reflective. So it may have a it may have a you know hey rooms for

there's lots. Yeah. Yeah. And when we re paved all the other streets well they did work. So they would have put that sign. So let's not worry about it. I mean it's not the tree will be safe but there's no way to protect it right now. the and the what about you know we talked about taking care of the wood creek you know tend to think of trees and the scarity that we're not

if I mean now's a great time to talk about them if there's available planting available planting spots um you know The one of the mottos I like to go with is plant the easiest spot first. Uh this specific one has stuck with me since the trees were removed. If if you know one, I mean, now's the time to talk about it. Um potentially get it on the agenda or uh in in the works for this winter. I just know we talked about let's, you know, be sure we considering all of Creek. Uh-huh.

And I don't know. I I don't know if places might be better than that. Our available green space, we don't have a whole lot. I mean, really, it's just Creekide, Augusta, the Triangle, um, Memorial, and then this, we're going to talk about this, too. potential dog for a potential dog that that's well the corner spot um next to the trail

I can't think of places that actually I'm probably not thinking of all of our public you don't have to you don't have to think of all of them now either I mean if if you agree as a board that well, let's go ahead and put this meadow tree, you know, before the council, then make that motion and we'll carry forward and then, you know, if they if they say yeah, then okay, now you've got $3,000 left, you know, all the by by the time all this happened, you put new money.

So ask for $1,500 more on this. I would No, I would just I would say $2,000 for trees and pl and and planting, you know, in the roto. Um, I call them the rubons. I don't know what the I called them five ways and I don't think that's so so to replace the trees that that were removed, you know, on me with Shady Grove. Okay. So, is this $5,000 earmarked for tree planting? Tree planting tree housing. And we can use that every year.

If it comes, it's it's not necessarily going to be in budget every year, but it has And if you pull this one off before October 1st, you can use it up this year. Do you know how much we have left to agree? I don't think anything. I don't know. I don't know why. Okay. I'll look at it before before I write up the motion that goes before the council before I put it on the council agenda, I'll see, you know, what's in there.

Yeah. Because when I'm when I when I write up the agenda item and this is something you all should be thinking about doing yourselves is that you know the you know your your agenda items really should be you know very specific about you know what you want to do how much it's going to cost you and you know who's responsible and um so so basically you know you something that is just a discussion item is just a to and we're not going to take any action, but if you are planning to take action, be pretty specific in your agenda item wording so that you can act on it. So, what you should be able to do is is you know, you have an agenda item here. And so, when you're ready to make a motion, you're basically just reading reading the agenda item that, you know, like this state, this much money,

you know, and who blah blah blah, you know. So, but anyway, we're gonna we're gonna work to help you all that. I mean, now that we got Carrie in place and, you know, sort of getting trained on city secretary stuff, she'll look for, you know, agenda, you know, wording and stuff and help help all the communities with that. But for now, you could make it you could make this motion, you know, to request from the council, you know, $2,000 from the tree planting budget um to replace the trees that had to be removed at Brook Shape. Okay. And then I'll put that on the next possible amendment.

Well, I would like to make the motion to ask council for $2,000 out of um the planting budgets to replace trees at Brook Meadow and Shady Grove that were removed. Second. Show hands and the eyes have it.

And you can you can put this back on agenda on future agendas. you know the you know if you drive around and look at city property and where things are needed and you know you've got this but I mean is that is that your but I mean city council could come up and say hey you know we want to do you know we want to do a big tree in the middle of triangle park yeah they would still do the same thing okay yeah so once that's approved can we discuss more details because I guess what I forgot was the fecing from the side of the tree.

You don't have to worry about that really. They're they're just, you know, you know, they approve the budget, then then we go in and say, "Okay, Jim, you know, so you know, this is the kind of tree, you know, buy it. Here's where to buy it from. Here's here's, you know, you don't know who plant." He'd probably get Becca, you know, land manager because then you don't have to go off a or anything, you know, do the planning on it, but he got heavy equipment. He can do all this stuff. So perfect. So that's that's how that would work. You know how it would be streamlined, but so that's just money that be going to Becket for the actual purchase of the tree itself. Okay. Where you could come in handy and he would probably consult you on that.

Okay. Um item number five, discuss and take possible actions regarding the community garden. What is the purpose of the community garden? The purpose of it um is that that individuals can go and collect things that they want to Yeah. So yeah, and it's right here. Yeah, I looked at it.

Um we installed a a rain capture system so that keep things watered. Um so the purpose is to you know hey community people go you know get together you know look at their plants and and stuff. Some people don't have the the space or um or to actually put a garden in. So you can go in and just get a um yeah I guess I don't think there's any money that changed. Do they do they rent a spot? I don't know how it work, but anyway, it was all it was all done as volunteers and and the city wouldn't take any ownership of it even though it's on our property. You know, the city administration was like, just don't bother us with this. You know, we gave you your space. Don't go away. Um and so and so like for instance, they would do they would do an event to try to um bring attention you know, to the community garden, which could be one of y'all's, you know, other events if you decide to go this way. But anyway, what what they're saying is is, you know, let the community garden come under the opaces of trees and parks so that if there are things that, you know, we need to do, the city will advertise it. the city was saying, "Hey, they're gonna do they did it like they did a um a movie night and they did um they screamed little shop a horse

and had um and had like food truck and all, but it was all just volunteer coordinated volunteer everything was paid for by the volunteers and the city wouldn't even put something in an email, you know, and so that's that's just wrong." So if it's got to be on city property and it's got to be built around you know, sort of gardens and and stuff, then it just makes sense for it to come under the oices of of one of our committees and the honor one that make the most sense. So,

so that's that's the that's the basis of decide and the the council the the council voted to ask you all to look at. So, this is this is coming from the council. If I wanted to u put a blurb in the newsletter, I don't I don't think I actually view it. So I need to go out. Yeah. See what else there, but so if somebody was interested in starting up a little plot. Yeah, we'd have to have a conversation with Cheryl and just sort of see but the I mean it's all basically it's all it was all basically a Facebook um thing.

Okay. You know done by a couple of the I mean it's it's Cheryl um Claire Palmer um y Deborah. So it's it's kind of those Wood Creek Facebook mom group. Um, okay.

That was that was um they got it started and so um and so they could they would help to you know write up anything and you know whatever the rules of our classes I just I just was so frustrated they wouldn't even send out an email that this thing was going on and build up interest in a community garden. Um so and then the then you know there are plans to expand out if there's if there is desire if it grows and people want to do it there is there are plans to just sort of expand out behind the shed over over that you know

is there anybody um looks kind of yeah I think that I think that you know during the drought and everything people just said We're going to wait till the the ball. But but if if we came out now, you know, it's like kind of feel, you know, with prime pump on the on the rain barrel and just people don't I mean community gardens are I mean the one over in Wood North is very Yeah, the one in Austin really that was a big deal. And now's the time to plant the ball.

Yes. And they're getting so expensive in the stores, it might be more interest this year, right? Well, now that the rain pictures, I put that on the monitor. Is there any way to show my pictures? Anyway, I could if it was I could if I was using my map. It's uh with me it's in Dra and there's lots of work. There's weeds everywhere. Weeds bubbling up and all rocks that still been around because so it should have been mulch.

Yeah. And there's nothing there. The musical thing that I born with musical instruments. over just grow them in the ground broken. So it just have no care and that Oh, so is that what So I don't think anyone is actually looking at it. Is that what somebody is getting one of these? Yeah, they had a trust. Oh, okay. Okay. Um one or more truss and so many do they bring those in? Because there's also like planting stands I believe you know roughly four feet tall. They were they weren't there. They got those donated, I think. Oh, okay.

Yeah. But I did the city provide the compost and the soil and build the things or does the source? the

well the person responsible for little I mean you've got a you've got a starter garden that I mean you're going to want to do your own soil man and mul but we've got big old pile up there we've got gallons and gallons of rainwater um we just need people interested in and and thing is if if we if we take it over and and and spotlight it and get people interested again and it takes off again. Great. If it doesn't, then still there. We turn it into a pet cemeter.

Yeah. What about do we provide um any tools? People brought their own. Um but uh but again tools. Oh yeah.

But again, you know, typically you know that it is a community garden. I mean, people that are participants, you know, sort of manage that stuff. They say, "Okay, well, okay, so I'll just leave some trouble trouble, whatever." So, so, you know, typically there's a a little shed with some tools in it. There's, you know, there water. There's, you know, there's I mean, like they had they had boxes of seeds that people could could take and plant. So, but if it's, you know, it's you're not you're not asking the this committee to run it and come up with all the ideas and concepts any more than you want. Um, you know, let the community, you know, continue to run stuff, but if they need resources, if they need a city and a resource, they got something that comes to them that's not just going to ignore them.

And which mulch is it? We've got all the mulch from the from the brush pickup tipping. You mean that's the part? No, there's a big pile of back here. The whole city. All right. I don't think you can use that vegetable. Especially the big the big This is No, this is pretty fine. It is pretty fine. It's gone through a grinder. It's right back here in the back of the parking lot. Yeah.

Yeah. Nice. Cuz I know, you know, we could destroy. So anyway, that's the, you know, that's the whole concept around the community garden. What what council is asking for your consideration to just sort of take it under your ostit. Well, I I'll talk to Cheryl details. So, do you want to table this until you've had a chance to talk to Cheryl and bring it back on a future future agenda? Yes. Yeah, we could always Let's go ahead and take it over.

We'll take it over and whatever becomes of it. I mean, Cheryl can still be involved as much as she wants to uh because she was one of the ring leaders of of that circuit. So if you're going to do that, then you need a motion to to take it over and then um and then just volunteer to you know speak with the original organizers. How long has it been to garden? two years roughly two years maybe a little bit more maybe a third

because it was the first year um Claire and Cheryl did Little Shop of Hords. Um yeah, I think that was three three years ago. It may have been It was a It was a pretty cool little turnout, too. Um I would like to see more events like that. That's true. kid. Our kids loved it. I mean, yeah, I did families and and that's why the, you know, that's that's the toys that that Julia was talking about, you know, that was, you know, keep kids

occupied, you know, those could be replaced. corner instruments that kids I'm not sure but

so I will make a motion that the trees and parks board will take over the management. I don't know the right word. The management of the community garden and I Shannon will um contact a former community garden organizer anymore.

Yeah. No, that's fine. and and just work with coral organizations. I'll second that. Show of hand. The eyes have it. Think those are going to be more popular. the year goes on. Oh, the garden. Yeah, because of the cost of vegetables. The cost of vegetables. I mean, we have a rainwater tank now, and that's why it's been dead into water. Um,

yeah. No. Uh, great idea. If we fill this up, we have room to grow. Um, like Jeff said, just put everything behind the shed. But to me, it needs to be some sort of leadership. Like what if three people come over here in Texas and bed? What if some other that's all that's all part of the community that that that the members the members that have the the troughs,

you know, are responsible for the management of the troughs and the and the space. That's you all don't have to get into that. Out of shame, you know, I mean, let I mean, if you really want I mean, if it's like no, no, no, no, no. We want to take it over because you're not doing it. That's something else. But but you know it really I mean the whole concept of community garden is the the people that have the garden plots run. Yeah. I think I think that was one of the problems with the Austin one. It became bure bureaucratic you know with rules posted and just it became bureaucratic. Right. Yeah, once we get there. Okay,

develop another. Okay, moving on. Pick up the pace. Moving on. We're halfway done. Jeff uh discuss and take possible action since that which member will uh take responsibility for watering at all parks and to be initiated immediately. Where did this come from? Who did this? It's just me. And of watering. And when I mentioned that as far as an agenda, I didn't mean it that I did not say to determine which member, meaning us.

Which which person in Wood Creek is going to do this? The city. We we offered the suggestion that the city do this watering because I'm I can't go anymore. have that. Someone has said someone has said he's willing to if he knows what to water and he's been watering. He's been going over he's been looking the hose up like the triangle and watering. I don't think he's I think we've been handling a dust part. I don't think he knows what to I mean if if he knows what to water

show was it Becky that walked around with him you walked around that didn't Yeah and and I think Becky showed with him. So if we formalize it a little more Yeah. If we Yeah. So I think I think formalizing it from y'all's perspective is you're not necessarily the ones out there with the hopes but but you Yeah, but we have been if you if you say you know this, you know, needs attention, Jim. Um, you know, it's like if you could help with that if I mean, we talked about buying a big tank to put on the mule,

you know, go around and fill it up with rain water and then go around and and hit spots. Yeah. Um but but again too I mean we've been planting natives which generally should give B without water but when they get started when they're getting started they they do and so it's like okay well this is these are some that you know do need some attention

and and and Sean just told me just tell me where and I'll do it you know so he's there the city my understanding the city will will help I mean that's doesn't all have to be volunteer I volunteer in my water the little Brook met.

Yeah. Well, what's happening is Becky is texting one of us about what two weeks telling us it needs to be watered. It said it's us. So we rush over there water then take. So, so begging Becky has like a steak in the ground over there. I mean, that's her personal part, right? So, she sends you a note that says, "Hey, needs some hair." Then you pass that note on to Jim and say, "Jim, let Sean know, you know, that they need some hair over there." Okay. Um

and and then but but yeah, that doesn't mean you have to go run out and and drag a hose around unless you just want to. I mean, I do. I'm happy to do that. Yeah. um you know when I can and and like I ever since we put that planter up so that's like three years four years ago now I've been going down there with buckets of rain water and air conditioning condensate and whatever I've got extra and and keeping that little plunger alive the best I can. Yeah. And it's and it's it's still

it's still okay. I like to go grab invasive plants down here at the dust park. That's fun for me. I mean, one of the reason one of the reasons that that y'all signed up for this group is because you like that stuff. Yes. You know, but you've got you've only got so much time

to volunteer. So, you know, you do the stuff you like. I mean, so so y'all as a as a board, you know, can certainly organize weeding parties and you know, stuff like that like like have been going on and say, "Okay, we're going to do a you know, that's like your other events. Hey, we're going to do a thing and you know what? We're going to have, you know, coffee and ducks or we're going to have, you know, beer and pretzels or whatever." Organize those kind of things. So, bring that thing out of your budget, out of your lid budget and and certainly do that. But it's not your responsibility to maintain our parts. Um otherwise you guys should get a you know wrench and 40.

Oh okay. Um is that clarified? So yes. Yes. So anytime she gets a text about just text Becky is Becky can text Jim but she has no he's better if it's coming from from one of us. You know, if Becky texts me, the first thing I do is in gym. I say, "Jim,

do we email this or what do how do we reach Jim? What would be good?" Manager Wood Creek dx.gov. That's good.

Any other discussion? Okay. No. Moving on, item number seven, we're going to discuss and take possible action to encourage city council uh to consider water control and saving measures by Jonah Stone Cipher and or other others for Augusta Park which we just budgeted. Yeah. So that's that basically being taken care of um in our other than

that it would have been maintenance. And Shannon, you know, you and I probably should get together to look at these items that we are putting forth, you know, from your minutes. So, we've got, you know, sort of accurate motion. Um, some of these things, some of some of the things I'm going to adjust a little bit from the language in here to the language to the council. So, have a better chance of getting through, but you know, we'll maybe get our act together.

Yes. I'm sorry. I hadn't past it because I took Jacob's email and then Judy's email. I past it to this time. Oh, okay. Well, I think it's great. I was uh Yeah, this is not creating a center around. So, Oh, yeah. Well, thank you. Uh I was about long and I didn't get Judy's agenda item. So, I was gonna I came up with that what I had sent it to you just to kind of proofread. Yeah. And I was going to send it to the city. Okay. And I saw you did it. Yeah. Okay. It's done. No, it's good.

It's good. So, we'll we'll refine it next time. Uh, for sure. Well, I got I got kind of Paula. I mean, Chris is um Chris is our sort of resident parliamentarian and policy law. Um, and so, so and I'm I'm really much looser. Um but uh but you know we're looking at some of the agenda stuff that I mean like not not y'all's you know specifically but you know just our advisory bodies since they've changed

um PNZ is the only one that is still sort of the same at the point right so community relations and and you know you all haven't had the training you know you haven't gone through you know the any develop training or anything else on how to write at a midnight and So, and so I'm like, "Okay, we're good." And Chris is like leg. I mean, if you if you've got some training, you know, ask it my way because I would love to learn.

I've I've asked um I've asked Carrie to also sort of to but but what I'm looking for is is some I probably have to go and chat GPT and see what they come up with and just say, you know, what are the you know, what are the, you know, key elements to include and agenda items. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. because I I I still, you know, I I brought up so many of the of the agenda I know council meetings and um and it's just it's taken me what four years now um you know to to start getting it run but now it's like okay so so these are the items say okay discussion and possible action you know to approve this thing a budget not to exceed need X number of dollars from account, you know, tree planting number 1010 560.

That information to know that it really needs to be a lot specific. Yeah. Right. But the discussion to get to that point has to be but that's why it starts with discussion and possible action. So you don't have might not have a motion. No, no, no. So, so when you have, so that's what I was saying. If you write the agenda item, right?

You know, you can you can take everything after discussing possible action um and turn it into a motion. So, it's a discussion and possible action to approve blah blah blah blah. So, so when it's time to make the motion, the motion is I move that city council approve blah blah blah blah, you know. So, just you just take the last part of the agenda item and become the motion. Now, sometimes sometimes it is um by the time from the time we we hit the agenda to the time we have a meeting, you know, council member had looked at it and go, "No, I'm going to adjust that motion a little bit, be a little bit more specific here or there, which is fine, you know, but but anyway, that's that's sort of it." Yeah, I I'll help I'll help

and because we do have to have that we may not come to the meeting with the motion and then with that clarity because we haven't had the discussion. Yeah, that's poss. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, if we don't you don't I'm close. Um, and that's and a lot of times what what y'all have done in the past is you've workshopped something first and said you have you know the workshop to discuss this

and then and then you come out of workshop with an action. So discuss and take possible action on on decisions made during the workshop that that would probably help a lot. Yeah. But but that allows you to so if you you're really strict if you're really strictly following Robert's rules and parliamentary procedure, you do not have the discussion until a motion is on the floor, you know, in a second. So you have the agenda item. I read it, Jacob read, the chair reads it.

Um immediately somebody makes that motion and second it and then then you get to the discussion, you know, and and then you discuss and you discuss and then and then Okay. Right. Are we ready to take a vote? Let's take a vote. So um we're not really all that strict. Is that how sometimes that's how we try to do it? Working sessions are really helpful. We do it too. How do you do? Council will do a workshop too and just come out. They got

this this next week. Um the first thing we do is go into budget work time. And so we just have open discussion about it with you make any changes to be review and then we come out and say okay we vote to approve the 25 26 foot. So the the working session goes right into the for the No, that would have to be

Yeah. When you do a working session, do a workshop working session. You basically say, you know, Jacob would say, "Okay, first item of business is um we'll go into a workshop. It is, you know, 4:31. You go in the workshop, you talk, you talk, you talk." You say, "Okay, we are we ready to come out of workshop now?" Okay. It's 4:50 coming out of the workshop where it's back into regular session and if you go so it's but then you can then you can you can't vote in the workshop. You can't make a motion in the workshop. All you can do is talk. Yeah. So you all the wonky stuff is coming back. They're plenty.

They could Yeah. workshop. Yeah, like the budget thing. We basically workshop the budget without going into workshop. That's that's okay. That's not We're not going to get any any demerits from the Secretary of State. We're fine.

All right. Well, moving forward to item number eight, follow up on information and actions complete reviewing and any revisions of the master plan. We talked about

revision of the master plan we got in progress. So I think that's where's coming from. So what do we need to do and say to make progress on revising this master is that definitely yes we plan the plan. So what who's going to take the lead on this and what we get? Well, uh I mean so we Yeah. Okay.

We were going to hire Raid on Tilly. He's no longer interested in this project. Um I think there was one other person. Um the name slipping my mind. Oh, Ted. Ted Gardner.

Ted Gardner. So, uh, we need to reach out to Ted Gardner to see if he'd be interested interested in, um, either redoing our master plan or editing severely our current master plan. Um, I I personally like our current master plan. Um, if we could just update it. Well, what y'all what y'all said at one point that you were going to do was go back read through I think Phil you came back with some some re you know literally get the master plan red and come back and say okay let this you know workshop the master plan say well section three you know is really out of date it needs to we need section section one or two they're still fine they still they resonate section Section three needs some help. Section six, you know, need so we definitely need to add a section, you know, whatever, you know, so so sort of workshop because you can't go to, you know, a Rayon or or a TED, you know, until that work has been done. They're just if you're hiring them to do some writing, they have to know what to write. Now, if you had an extra $10,000, you'd say, "Hey, Dad, take a look at this and rewrite it for us, you know, but that's just not that's not gonna happen." So, so if if y'all, you know, would would commit to that to going back and and put on the agenda for the next next meeting perhaps workshop to discuss updates,

you know, to the master plan. But in the meantime, you'll, you know, take the, you know, initiative of what we're looking for. Um, say, "Okay, I'm going to do that and make some notes." Um, and and come back and then you just take it, you know, section at a time. Well, anybody have any notes on on, you know, section one? I do. Okay. Anybody? Yeah, I do. I do. And then you compile that. you sort of get all that set on paper and and when you do that it kind of writes itself

because then you get to go to Ted and say, you know, or anybody and and say, "Okay, so here here's the master plan. Here are notes about it. Um, we just need some word smithing." Um, and and off you go. Or, you know, we want to put the whole thing up on the website. you know, we want the master plan to be, you know, completely driven and, you know, equally updated, you know, whatever you wanted to do. The original master plan was basically a paper plan. Yeah.

Yeah. So, um, so anyway, there there's lots of things that that we can do and, you know, all the council said to do was, you know, it just needs to be reviewed. You know, we've got the we've got the parks have been significantly upgraded. Um but um but oh here's um I can't I can't say we're on we're being paid but you know it's like like part of the you know part of the plan may be to acquire park and I will tell you that there is a there's already a a motion in place. I can't remember where it is. Deborah Hines brought it to start developing a a parkland fund so that every every year a percentage of any any any budget that was not used by the city that is then returned back to the treasury. Um a percentage of that is specifically designated for park acquisition park acquisition you know. So, so, um, and that could be 15, $20,000 a year. I mean, it takes a while to build up, but, um, but then, but it's a it's an ongoing thing. Um, that that say, okay, I mean, and a part acquisition may be a funny little like y'all have y'all have funny little

Yeah. funny little lot that that you know they're not buildable you know and and it's like hey you know they'd be kind of people pocket park we'll put a couple you know vegetude there for a lot of people walk there. Yeah. So it becomes a little a little pocket park with a couple meditation and and um and you know you get that for a song you know because it doesn't have any real value to anybody but it's just the way the subdivision was planted it exists. Everybody probably want to get rid.

Yeah. Yeah. So so anyway that that could be part of you know that could be part of the new park acquisition. There's um there was conversation with the um Carson family about the the Creek Side or or Creek Bank um there at the low water crossing cross. Well, that's owned by the Parson family. It was part of it was part of a proposal as part of the POSAT grant that you know didn't go through but you know that was all that could have all been a you know really sweet you know county park city park you know where it is going I do

yeah and it's like you know they they don't want to donate it at least not at this point but uh but they were willing to take some grant money and give it over to the county and maybe became a county city park, you know. So, so they're all all that kind of stuff is out there, you know, and and part of I mean there's, you know, when you have a more a master plan, it's mostly pragmatic, but you can dream a little bit. Dreaming does hurt.

Yes. But but that's it. I mean, so if that's what that's what y'all want to do, then you know that's you know that could be a sort of a working thing. I'll put it on my notes because I haven't looked at it more. Yeah, I mean we were all doing summer vacation is what I'll what I'll say. Uh but yeah, so let's get this ball rolling again. Um and come back to our next meeting. have everyone's skimmed over the old park plan. Um, even start revising sections that interest you. Um, and bring it to the next meeting

and we'll have that split up as a work. It'll be a workshop. Yeah.

And you probably wouldn't be taking any I mean, you could I mean, I like to put an action item in the agenda just in case. you can come out of the workshop and go man anything to specifically act on or you may come out and say oh we want to do this and you make a motion. So yeah so I know there's sections of the park plan that interest me uh hopefully same with y'all. So, does everybody have know how to find it? Know how to get the the money?

Bill had interview. Yeah. Yeah. Just as long as you're able to get into it. Everyone. All right. You know what? Can we just have Can we just have the parks plan printed printed so for our next meeting? Yeah, you can ask Terry to to print a copy, but each individual, but they have it before next meeting. So, we have

Yeah, get it. Download it. Download it at home and and you know, have something to to work on. I mean, if you really need a printed copy in order to be able to to do your editing and you're just a paper person, Carrie will, you know, just ask Terry and she will, you know, or or tappy, you know, they'll they'll for you, but it's a it's a pretty true. So, all right. Something I've been working with recently is Google Docs and how you can have multiple people working on one dog. Can we put the my master park plans into a shared

I don't know what format we have it in. I think it's a PDF right now. Um but I mean you could create a Google um and and host it privately but we don't have we don't have well we do actually but um but you could do that and and have a without breaking the core working. It's um Yeah, I have to ask you about that. I'll bring that up with the city attorney. Yeah, it's like Yeah, they could be considered.

I don't know. That's what Yeah, the collaborative document could be considered a dorm, but it could also not. I mean, because we're not speaking to each other. We're just editing the same document. Of course, it's being done. I don't think that's out of out of public meetings. Just from memory. I don't think that's supposed to be done. We'll find out. I mean, I think Yeah, I'll send it up. I'll send it out to stand together without trying to find looph.

So I'm also going to email everyone uh later later today, later this week, a link to the master plan. That way, everyone has that link. Uh they can look at it.

Do we need a motion for this? So, and that was our last item. Uh, any other discussion about this item? Are you good with that, J? Are you good with um moving into a workshop next meeting? Okay. Well, meeting adjourned 7:01. Thank you all.

Yeah, thank you all. Thank you for your service. Stories were always scary. I need to sign. I signed them. Absolutely.

This says signed by Shannon and Whoops. I signed in the wrong spot. Yeah. I didn't realize that. these chairs.

I finished that. Thank you.