Trees and Parks Board - Regular Meeting

Awesome. Today is July 1st, 2026, and I'm calling to order the regular Trees and Parks Board meeting at 4.35 p.m. All right.

Secretary, will you please call the roll? Yes. Member Carly Camp. Present. Member Sandy Wanda. Present.

chair warner martin here and chair joe zipper here yes all right the first thing on our agenda is the consent agenda which is approving the trees and parks board meeting minutes from june 17th 2026 so that would be the meeting minutes from our last meeting do we have a motion to approve this i motion second do you say okay

Perfect. Yes.

Okay. And that's all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All in favor say aye. Okay. Let's see. Gosh, I've only ever watched this happen in the room. You're doing great. Thank you. This says that we have no reports at the moment from the council liaison. Is that correct? Wonderful. um so the next thing on our agenda is looking at uh doing a workshop on updating the 2019 parks master plan so we are going to enter workshop at 4 36 pm and proceed with our discussion

and this is going to be all y'all so i and i was saying and uh deborah was saying she said um in regard to the parks master plan encourage them to form subcommittees of no more than two members so that's in the second section of the agendas to form subcommittees um and then remind them if they cannot work as a group outside of the public communities but can work in pairs so you can't have more than two outside somewhere talking about it.

Is it possible for us at some point to have a meeting at one of the parks?

Yes, I would have to do like a notice of possible quorum. So it's like you can't make decisions at them. You can like talk about things and all that, but you can say, okay, we're going to do this and then come and bring it. So you're saying it not in front of

Right. I was just thinking, like having seen the Augusta Park last night, that it would be great if we were all there. Yeah. With ideas and stuff. Let me bring it to a meeting. Yeah. So we would have to do that as a meeting.

no you don't have to but you would let me know and then i would post okay it's like you know it's a positive form just saying that's what it gets for it's me at the heart at this time no decisions or no action i say okay perfect perfect so but sometimes you've just found the vision to see it yeah yeah okay and then um she did say y'all can also instead of doing like you could do the subcommittees and eat outside or if you wanted you could just do mid workshops and all work together during the meetings if you do either one that you said the goal or the need regarding the parks master plan is review and update what exists because some of the things don't even have what's at the parks right right and then propose any new plans or revisions for the future regarding a local so that's kind of all y'all's ideas to come up with yeah well that's pretty I think it's pretty easy

oh i mean i think it's straightforward because i like the way the wording and everything about the plan like you know it's really good it's just that it's it's not updated yeah it should be easy to update right now i say that but it's also doing it right

so when you say talking about dividing into subcommittees that could be how we're going to approach updating each of the sections of this plan yeah i'd say like you and carly wanted to do the playgrounds it's like we're going to work on this section and then or work on this part and you can bring it to the next thing you say we can have these ideas and then everybody says perfect awesome you change that portion and then like you're all going to work on

artistic art or you know okay i would assume that that is how that was what she meant yeah fantastic so maybe should we go through the existing uh park's plan yeah my printer was out of place if you want to look if we don't want people to want to say

I don't know, you know, whatever you want, I can get it done. I just love the mission. So my mission is to promote community health and well-being through fun, progressive and memorable parks and recreational experiences and activities for everyone. Nice. I love that. Yeah. And it's just really sweet, you know, kind of concise. and then you know i love this idea that it's a framework the ambassador plans a framework to guide the preservation and development of parks landscape recreational trails cultural landmarks and open spaces so i'm not sure do we have cultural landmarks the memorial at the front of the neighborhood or the veterans yeah okay that's the one that i'm aware of is there a park name for jim westbrook

I don't know. I don't see it in here. I didn't see it down here.

Yeah, there's Creekside Park, Avesta Park, Memorial, and then there's the potential, they talked about the dog park, that community lot that's like right at the end of Champions. But they're the only ones that I know.

Yeah, he died, I don't know how long ago, but his wife, Kay, was various from everyone having a park named after him. There's a marker. Where is it? I don't know. I can't remember. I've driven past it. I've seen it. And then she died last August.

So maybe it didn't actually come to fruition.

I don't know. But there was a sign. The last thing is Westwood. The last thing is Westwood. Westwood.

yeah and just a quick question you said that uh the discussion of august

it's like literally when you turn on to chambers from woodcreek drive it has that little like gravel wall oh well this way yeah let's do things out of here like the start of the wall and then green space right away so those are the only parts

on Augusta. It's like 89 is the house that looks this way. What's the street? It's Brooklyn Hollow and then Augusta's a loop. It's up here. That's the one, yeah.

that's the one i went to last night i was telling them because um you know becky didn't oh yeah yeah so you know it's across the street from her wow okay and um so she's done a lot of work on it and um i said well here you know one of the things this is a custom lane okay in your eye this is what it says it doesn't look like this right yeah but one of the big problems thank you so much that's a better shot i'm sure i can okay between my phone and

I know one thing about Augusta Support is they planted a whole bunch of native plants, which are all nice and pretty, but nobody knows the difference.

Nobody knows the difference. The weeds were up here.

I was telling Sean it would be smart if there was an actual designated bed, you know, like rocks, where then Sean could go just push them over through a trail. Because right now I'm like, I don't know how they feel like the community. I'd hunt there because the grass is so...

Well, one of the things that, you know, I'm wondering about is last meeting there was this comment about we're going to get a gardener. Yes. So is that?

The RFP is out. Okay. But nobody's applied. I'm not sure if they did. They sent them to Deborah and Jim. Okay. I'm supposed to be CC'd on them, but I feel like some people forget to do that.

But, you know, the key thing is like walking around there with the master naturalist and master gardener, know we're able to kind of figure out okay this is a weed but a normal a person who's just mowing would not have that knowledge you know so either that's why i was thinking if we could see it if we could block it you know or be out there sometime um because so uh and then there's that what is that other that home weed or something you know and then there's all this like um nettles, you know, that are down. I mean, so there's a lot that's overgrown. But I think the bigger issue is this, like, the rain experience looks great. But evidently, there's supposed to be a sign for the Boy Scout that did that. It's not a...

I think my brother-in-law's at Augusta Park.

Oh, really?

There's like a little sign for him.

Now, if that's an Eagle Scout project, that sign, I believe, would have been the responsibility of the Eagle Scout.

I believe.

I don't think my husband is an Eagle Scout, so I don't really know.

But that is the Butterfly Garden from Tatum Davis, I believe is her name. And she did that last year.

Yeah, that's really the Monarch Station. That's also kind of invaded with all kinds of crazy weeds.

And they were going to get like little sticks almost to like name the plants. But they did that at the Triangle and it looks like there's just a million flags everywhere.

There's a few little stakes that are really small and very nicely done.

It's just that there's so many weeds that you can't see them. But the bigger issue is this. this, I'll just kind of pass that around, which is just collecting mosquitoes, right? And it was originally kind of run off for the animals and stuff. But in this evidently, our mayor got that an animal, this is so that an animal doesn't drown. There's apparently situations of animals falling out. Most of the time it's somewhere else. Like it's out of there and somebody or someone is picking it up and throwing it on the bocce ball court, you know? And so since she lives across the street and she's got kind of an interest, and she's also putting all the mosquito stuff in there. She shouldn't be doing that. The whole thing is the whole place is so cute. it's no one's tending it yeah and it looks it looks it's almost like rather than creating all like these new things let's take care of what we have yeah you know well and that's the hard thing you have trees and parks like we're talking about a dog park but i'm kind of thinking let's take care of the ones we've got yeah yeah because there's in the bocce ball thing there's a woman whose name i forget but evidently she contributed this sort of for equipment thing you know plastic thing when you look in everything's broken in there and i mean it's just it's we just ordered new something for the banshee ball i don't know i know we got it at city hall a few weeks ago i think sean was supposed to put it out that i don't There's an equipment bin, right? If you open it up, there's about this much ants around the whole bottom of it. The equipment are broken, you know? And then there's a ping pong table and there's a paddle that's in there that's broken. I mean, I didn't take a picture of that, but it's like, the whole thing looks like... It just hasn't been paid attention.

Absolutely.

And I think Sean's been the only one taking care of it since we haven't had trees and parks since November.

Okay. Okay. So there's been literally, you can go by. Well, I'm just saying, yeah, it seems like this could be kind of the first thing because the triangle looks great, you know, to me, I think, but this needs help. Yeah. Right. Right. You know, in terms of, and I don't think it would, I was saying not for us to get out there, but it could be fun when it actually is cooler.

kind of do this not right now but you know you know so we well the planting that went on out there that was a girl scouts project yes yeah and was that supposed to be a continued effort by the troop in perpetuity or i don't know exactly it's like they have one time and that's like for the mat the master naturalist came and did a bunch of native planting at the triangle

And it was supposed to be, you know, kept up with and watered and stuff like that, but it's not. So then it gets put on like City Hall that Shawn has to go do it. And so that's where it's like hard. Everybody adds all these lovely plants and stuff and it's beautiful at first and then nobody keeps up with taking care of plants. And then Shawn's like, yeah, I don't know what to do. And he doesn't, nor would I expect him to. I mean, that's the whole key. And that's why I look for this RFP helps too. Maybe like everything will get situated and then it'll be a lot easier to maintain.

Right. So I sit as a director on the board for the Hays County Master Naturalists and so I can recommend that our next board meeting is putting out a call to the citizens of Wood Creek that are Master Naturalists and because I don't think a lot of people even know that this project exists. I knew about it, but I haven't had a chance to help with it. Yeah, that's why I thought it would be helpful. Yeah, thank you. So I can get that out there and say, you know, these are things that are in walking distance.

It's also important though, it's like volunteer work. So then it's like getting volunteers to go after your work day to go. Yeah. and find the time to do it. It's like, no one wants to work after me. I mean, personally, I mean, obviously the work can't rent, but.

Yeah.

Especially in July.

It's a lovely time to get out and do it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe November. Exactly. I'd be willing in November. Right? Yeah.

so maybe what we should do is maybe go through this master plan from page by page and look and see what is currently updated and maybe what needs some love and updating and then that can help us to prioritize what we want to focus on um so the front cover is beautiful and I think looking at the purpose so page three

we all integrated yeah yeah okay um the profile well that has 2010 census and so um and then 2017 estimates so i'm sure that could be in january 2019. i would say i updated this um like the population wallet sign last year recently so if we go look out on 12th one of the items it's like 18 something

I believe it's the number, 1892, maybe.

And if we do have changes to this, do we have access to like a Word doc where we can mark changes, or do we have to submit all those to you?

Do you know? I have to ask Deborah. I'm not sure. I feel like it might be like almost like starting fresh, maybe. But then I could also copy this, I would assume. All right. but i can i can ask deborah too whenever she comes on monday i mean there's no point because that doesn't really the verbiage doesn't change it's just all of this yeah just updating so that wouldn't be i would have to convert it all to like a powerpoint or not a pdf i need like a word knock or something yeah to go through but i don't think it needs to be a start over i think the bones are good yeah i agree i agree yeah absolutely so it's really just like profile page to change just change update the

demographics and the process is good I think too you know the expectations and yeah I I agree with that um now partnerships talks about the 2017 Community survey because that is almost a decade ago um are there plans to do another recurring Community survey that's the comprehensive plan survey

Yeah, we just got approved for a grant to do the survey towards like fully funded. So now we're just waiting on the funds for that. And then it's going to go back to council again with all the questions. I left them over and subtract because last year there was a lady from Texas State doing it as a class project. Yeah. And so they did it through some survey.

Qualtrics, most likely.

There we go. That is the word.

Yep. I'm intimately familiar with Qualtrics.

It's going to be their, no, how she described it was like postcard, like QR code. Okay. It's mailed to everybody. But it's just... I want to hear it twice.

That one came paper. Okay.

Because whenever I was going through all the lovely files, there was actual pieces of paper. Then it was probably that thick with just stacks. But this one would be like online. I see. Much easier. But for multiple council meetings, they went back and forth on the process of all of it. And nothing ever came to it. conclusion because everybody wanted to add certain questions and like when election season came even more questions wanted to be asked to look at confidence plan surveys so it's more like okay let's just stop do a refresh yeah and bring it back so it will be happening soon okay I just asked that because I think that would give us a better snapshot of what's happening yeah and I don't think there's a timeline for this to be done by any means obviously it hasn't been updated since

So under partnership, the very last paragraph, recommends council and add guidelines and ordinances to require provisions of trails and parks in future residential and commercial development. Is there, are there plans for any future residential or commercial development? I hope not. Especially not near any of the parks. But I guess that's just a sort of standard language or something. That's what I'm thinking.

It must be a CYA kind of, you know, I don't know. We might want to ask about that.

Yes, I guess.

Yes. Okay. And that's like, do they know that has to be in there? I saw that too and thought future commercial building.

What about the golf course, for example? That's been reworked, not necessarily developed. There's no way for people to go and enjoy walking on the golf trails.

That was a big thing that came up in council meetings last year too, because the walking trails i don't know if y'all oh yeah everybody thought we were getting sidewalks yeah that's not the thing um but then they're like yeah well why don't we just make walking chairs through the golf course but it's private property yeah and boy they enforce it like they're running after me oh yeah yeah yeah It's like, wow. That's the one thing I don't think that would ever be an option. Because it's up to the golf course. Right.

Right. I think it would be reasonable if it's like after all 13 times. Yeah. Well, that's exactly what I thought.

Yeah. Walking on it. And then, I mean, out of nowhere, somebody, you know, this is private property. Do you see the sign? We can arrest you. You know, so they're serious.

Yeah, I don't, I don't hear. Is there an awkward Texas sign to go along with this? I don't understand all that. It's unfortunate.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

You know, I don't know when this was, two or three years ago, there was a big meeting at the VFW and we all put markers on things we wanted to see. here in Wood Creek. Is there any reference to that? Was it a Parks, Transition and Parks Board? It was a town hall.

It goes out to be a WLB town hall discussing something. Like we had drainage town halls because we were heavily attended. But I can ask you, Thompson.

ideas around conservation engagements and stuff like that.

So interesting. Well, I would like to see the, you know, the more updated community survey because even just looking at the street that i'm a homer when we moved in we were the youngest people by 40 years and now it's all young family children and so i imagine the feelings toward sparks have probably changed most people looking before yeah we didn't get there till 2020 so yeah years after yeah

There's such a split here, it seems.

It's very harsh. All the other ponders live across the way over there.

They live nice and secluded over there.

You know, it's like we have our own park because of the walking trail. Yeah, you know, it's around subdivision. Yeah, over here at Tully Fork. I don't know where that is.

It's literally turn around Wood Creek and it's like half a mile on the left, like past, right past Baptist Church. It's that little gate in the community. Is it the orange one?

Oh, that's nice.

This is, yeah. I mean, I guess this is, yeah. It just has one little size of oak orchard. I'm sorry.

I mean on the map behind you, the orange.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the orange. I don't know what color the rocks are. I didn't really know. Yeah, lovely. Yeah.

so we have there's a walking trail that goes all the way around it and we have access to you know to the church property okay yeah there so in a way we have our own park but i'm i was just thinking how do we make that area feel more apart because because we don't yeah yeah yeah 12 isn't very big yeah it's hard yeah yeah yeah what's that other orange yeah i was wondering that too

I don't know. I was asking the city administrator yesterday and for some reason I thought because it's across the creek. But I thought that it was... Does it have a name on it? No, it's a PDD. Oh, okay. So my assumption is it's that lot on the right. They just cleared it. It's like kind of going up the curve towards H-E-D, obviously. Oh. Like right past the creek and then you go up a little bit. Yeah. Cleared that little bit of lot. I mean, I assume it's that. Oh, gosh. But technically it's not. It's in the E-T-J. It's not. Right. Right. So you don't have any.

Right.

Hmm. I don't know why that means, Mrs. Ulner. I'd love to know the story.

with the next page because the next page actually includes yeah um can i ask one last question on the partnerships page you can ask as many questions as you want thank you do we have any active partnerships with people besides like maybe this rfp that you do for somebody to do the card network is there a partnership

you know i recall and i said but i mean like there's we love trees which are like the city arborists and so then i know they came to one of the whenever i first started they came to one of the trees and parks boards because you know it's like you all go out and like number trees and all that stuff. So I guess the arborist, he references that, it's like one-inch string, but I don't know.

So this is an arborist that City hires to do this? Yes.

And they're supposed to do it from the buses, like going down the roads, all of the overhang. I don't know how well they did last year in my opinion,

they're supposed to fix all that and at the parks they're supposed to go for like look for oak wilt but i don't know if you'd call that a partnership but yeah i guess it would be good to better define that and then like trying to put a list together yeah and i can ask deborah too would that include like the master naturalists

The first sentence says investment of time and money by supporters of parks and recreation. So that's what it feels like. That's the definition of a partnership. Yeah.

So it doesn't necessarily have to be a financial partnership. Exactly. Yeah. Time and money. So Texas A&M, can we use I know, like, kind of that person's birthday. Yeah.

Well, because we have, like, the Oklahoma abatement program now, too, and I know one person has done it. And that's like if Oakville is determined on your property and it needs to be fixed, it's like the city compensates, I guess, for X amount. It's kind of like the rainwater stuff. I don't exactly understand how it all works.

Yeah. I thought you were talking about the rainwater stuff because I heard that was going to be an option. Is that true? Okay, no, it's in. Okay, where do we find that?

It's all on the website. I've been working on the website trying to... get um there's dropping the water this is for oh yeah personal rainwater collection yeah yeah so if you go um on the about Wood Creek tab and then there's a tab called drought in the water and then on the far left of it there's rainwater collection homestead exemption rebate program and application permit and all that and then rainwater collection calculator

Just because I have to go to the HRA board meeting next week. And at that point, everybody wants to know about that.

All the forms are right there in the permit. That's Debra's big thing. She was all about this framework. She knows a lot more.

Yeah. Well, just knowing where I can find it so I can speak to someone else. Because I do, like last year, they were talking about it. But I didn't know if it is actually.

Yeah, there's like a breakdown of like, if you have a 5,000 gallon tank, you get. Awesome. That's good too.

That's good. It's very good. Yeah.

Yeah, they're all good. And then it's like if your house runs, and then that's the thing too, it's like nobody can really put in a rainwater tank big enough to run near your house. I don't think anybody could unless you go sky high.

Which would never work.

But there's like a big homestead exemption thing on that if your house runs off of.

Yeah, which it should.

Oh, I'm so glad about that. You have to renew that every year.

unlike the panel one which is just a one yeah and i know like the city put in like for say budget season like we put an x amount of dollars towards the rainwater rebate program or exemption stuff so it's like once we get enough permits and applications that exceed or that meet that maps nobody else can get the word like you can put in then but we can't get you about that yeah

Wonderful well, do we have anything else for the partnerships or the survey pages that we think you could be updated? My only thought would maybe be with the survey of like. This city is in talks of doing a future survey. Like to exclude a sentence on that, but then you pigeonhole yourself into doing it. So you can just leave it as is.

I would assume that it would be getting situated this year 100%. I don't see why not, because we just got the grant fund approved for the grant. I don't know if it's the process of all of those, but I know some of them take forever.

awesome okay well then moving into the existing parks inventory um I don't think it's changed it's impossible to see you don't have to go and wander around the city hall wooded natural area oh yeah I didn't realize we were right somewhere yeah Yeah, I don't think that the city has purchased any new land since, right? Okay. So then that should be good.

And the veterans are loyal. That's the first one. Yeah. Oh. So I know that really stopped and looked at that. Is this all veterans are loyal plus the Sierra Leone flagpoles, the line of stone signage, that's all there, right? South Grounds, Crossfield Creek Drive.

That's where there's consideration of putting a dog park. Okay, so down here at the end of the street when you drive into Wood Creek and the flagpole's from the right, that little patch of trees right there. There's two little parking spots. That's a city park. That's a teeny tiny dog park.

That was one of the thoughts last year.

And there's still being restrictions on dog parks legally. Yeah. Because we've looked at that. And I mean, in terms of the legal ramifications, like what happens if your dog, I don't have a dog, bites my dog, you know, or bites me. I mean, you know, evidently we looked at that. Thank God it wasn't my thing. You know, there's a lot of...

legal issues that happen who's reliable and who's going to enforce that but it kind of stopped they kind of stopped talking about it so i don't know yeah if it'll ever come up again yeah my thing was some people aren't going to pick up the dog food exactly yeah and then it's like oh it's good yeah i think it's and 12 is right there it's right there little dogs you know i mean yeah there's been a lot of talk of different things that they're like put more benches or Yeah. But you'd have to lose it though, right? You'd have to fence it all in, and people are allowed to.

I just think that's a, I mean, that's, you know.

You know, you think that's the hard thing, because it's like, you can't have chain link fence. Right. It has to be raw iron, nice, pretty. Yeah, which is expensive. Yeah.

And which isn't going to do anything. And it's not a log.

Yeah. I mean, it's right on 12, right? Yeah. But that's why I did stop talking on it, so I don't think.

Okay, good.

And that's the only thing. place that if you consider i mean unless somebody wants an in-between their house which no no that's on that's on how much frankie yeah hey i'm a huge dog person what's your northeast dog park

where is it oh yeah across from their city hall oh yeah cool i thought that was one of the reasons that they had uh an hoa oh some of their the dog park in the pool huh no i didn't know that i've never ventured over

That could be completely wrong. That's how rumors get started. I heard they have a giant pool.

On the Veterans, so is there a rain garden? There's one at Augusta, you know, Augusta Park, but it says there's a rain garden at the Veterans Memorial.

this is that i've never seen it so and it says it's a rain garden together and slow run along entering the drainage channel along 12. oh so that i think that that's so jane little um she works or like no she goes out she drives a golf cart over there and she sits there and pulls weeds in front of the wood creek sign on the other side yeah and i'm going to assume that the rain garden might be near the sign right there where all those pretty plants are maybe that's another yeah i think that's another reason not to have a job park right where that is yeah area across from veterans yeah the the wooded area yeah yeah but i don't know i have to have several it's also like you know as in like y'all would recommend to like what to possibly put there because technically on this it's just veterans augusta and the playground right so really only be those three that we're updating But I can ask them or be like, can we look at all of the sit-ins to see what could happen? Because I was looking through it to try to see if like the World Champions is on here. It's not. It's highlighted in the maps, but it's not one of the ones that they worked on. Because it's also floodplain too. I don't know if y'all have driven by it in the rain and it's absolutely terrible.

It's a swamp.

So, I'm not familiar with what happened, but I know I watched it happen. The new drainage system by the Veterans Memorial Park, is that something that needs to be updated on here? Yeah, it's not on here.

But, I mean, all they did, they added like a, I mean, you see the ditch.

Yeah. Okay.

but and then there's going to come back hopefully like freelancer is talking about or it was on the drainage plan to do that site for that into a lot and to like fix it to our channels under 12 like it's supposed to instead of standing um but then i was postponed because they talked about like boring under 12. it's gonna be an insane amount of money so then they went back and figured out a way to not do that like not go under 12. so it might come back to council or i think it has no it has gone back to council i think it was on the last meeting actually where like just focuses on trying to to make fun of them yeah yeah because it's literally unusable land employment like you can't do anything right so the the roads once you cross into wood creek the city maintains the roads

But like 12, is that textile? Yeah.

And textile will never do. At my house, the big tractors that just went down, they ripped the high fence. And so it's like, you call textile, and they're like, oh no, we can't pay. So my husband's like, well, we did it. But that was a whole week and a half process.

Just a little bit of tape. Yeah, very nice. So you're set to do a project for the Massachusetts to figure out how the water would...

In the drainage plan, not regarding that part, because that was kind of put off a bit at the moment until engineers came back with other things. But like the watershed association, they're trying to come up with ways for... It's not... Gray infrastructure is cement, right? Correct? I'm going to assume... Yeah, there's a gray infrastructure and it's a green infrastructure. So it's like the engineers look at it as, yeah, we're going to add a concrete culvert and it's going to go down this way. And then the Watershed Association was like, well, we could do it this way and add a swale of some sort. So it's like we're looking for greener ways.

Right, right. It's got a rain guard.

Yes. Is that her? No, she's one of the natural strength.

Yeah, maybe she does water advice. I know we had a um because there are some people in the master naturalist program that would be qualified to do that based on their careers or what they've done but as the training director I can say that's beyond the scope of what we teach.

It was half an associate in stormwater management. And then they're like kind of hired, I guess you would say, from the Watershed Association. Okay. And so they looked at all the drainage sites that we're planning on working on. And he presented in the...

a June 10th meeting like designs for certain areas that we're looking at okay nice so so we just keep it right out for updates on that yeah yeah okay well then it sounds like this the Veterans Memorial Closet page is updated um so now City Hall City Hall has a community garden yeah and it's looking so good right now community garden and then also another thing that could be highlighted in here too is there's the free little library right yeah who is the uh for the community it's kind of a joint

thing because so like up until last year nobody or like whenever i started nobody kind of did anything like cheryl mills the chair of crc she would go and she would mess with it and all that and then now there's the garden there's two empty beds i believe but it's like really nice and it's kind of just volunteer keep up with

just ask that because on earth day like two years ago i didn't even know we had one yeah i just asked i got this woman's card and i called and called and called and i never got because i wanted one because i mine is over there at uh well you can check as well you know i don't know yeah if you call like me and taffy we try to figure it out i'm actually reaching out like hey is this okay okay i'll just so yeah but there's two events like the first one's on the left

are empty well it's so much closer for me than going to that you know as well you know so so what about water restrictions for that it's a rain warranty yeah oh yeah very good it's all there's a big rain order to everything it's not big by any means yeah so that is a question that i've had so we have the restrictions right now on no outdoor watering

and that is unless it is collected rainwater or gray water because that's really my big question is like with the golf course is that gray water that they're using well it's supposed to be almost peri and that's what they say because we've been talking with them with because i'm like you know next to them okay and that

know we've been in communication for the last two years about that it's supposed to be like they've elevated you know it used to be that when they would go out of the golf course you'd smell it yeah yeah i thought it was almost like you know you have a septic and septic spray my assumption was that was the golf course that's what it used to be yeah something being sent out a few months ago about about it okay i'll go look and read that's just mine but i i know they're not using like aqua texas water oh no i know i know that yeah but i know it's something i think it's gray water okay They're not using aqua Texas water. Well, no, it's like they're working with aqua, but it's not like drinking water. It's not fresh water. Okay.

It's not non-drinkable water. Okay. Because I thought the whole brouhaha about downtown Wimberley and the septic system there. know it was was it going to be city or was it going to be out texas yeah i think and then i was texas got the grant or got the contracts so now all the wastewater from the square comes to aqua texas and they supposedly purify it and use it to spray on the golf course

Oh, see, I don't, that might, I don't know. I know they said some big packet or like.

It's okay. It's okay. A few times.

Before he enters this town, apparently, I mean, we're going to haggle over, you know, because there were no restrooms on the city square. Yeah.

And if you walk over the creek right there.

Well, and if you go by H-E-B.

Yeah. Oh, no.

Just by the gas pumps. That supposedly is the devil.

You know, when you go down Corning Lane. Oh, the transfer center? Yeah. Yeah. There's there's that's a whole letter. Yeah. So that's what I was going to ask. Are there any other plans for this new hall space?

No. Because it's ADD. Yeah. You can't do anything behind it. And the community garden is the only.

I think the section that they're talking about right there is right behind the aqua, or yeah, it's in front of the Texas cages and behind it.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

What are you going to do?

Yeah, bird blind.

Do what?

A bird blind. That's immediately where my brain goes.

You could put a bird house in there.

Yeah.

The house that I used to live in, we did the bird exhibition, and there's like every, like however many yards you have your bird feeders, bird houses. Love that.

Yeah. But for Raglan, the city has no other plans for that, right? Awesome. So, the triangle. Oh, the gazebo. No, no, no.

She's thinking the gazebo and the water collection is there, right? And evidently that creates difficulty for some people. I think it's great.

I love that it's there. I'm sure. I was just surprised a lot of people said that.

Yeah, lots of controversy.

It's an optics issue, right? They just don't like that it looks like a trash can.

What if it could be helpful if they just painted it? Yeah, picked it. That was brought to council, and that was another whole kind of like the bulletin board that's being brought to y'all now. It talks about nobody could decide on anything. They talked about cedar posts around it, or like, you know, like cedar pickets. And they talked about painting it, and it's... yeah they figured they were like their reasoning is to promote water and they're supposed to do that with a painting that would be water you know water wise kind of things yeah well see and that was kind of like the boot see everything is right not contradicting one another everything like present the boot being at the triangle was supposed to show the water flow and all of that jazz what happened i don't know oh it's postponed until we figure out stuff with the artist and

Oh, with the legal usage of the... Yeah.

It's off. If you watch the last two council meetings.

Okay. Well, I missed that.

Will that ever... Well, maybe. Will it take back to us? No. I mean, unless it's like there's a thing of pick apart, possibly.

Okay.

But it's in the budget because it was approved and then now it's kind of postponed. So it's like that money that we collected for it is staying there.

yeah it has to be moved you know since we're considered a pre-city right it would be really cool to have it in the shape of a tree yeah and show them the lines of the officer yeah yeah well then it's it's more like the reasoning behind it is the officer like the art that is being shown that's where we're at uh

So there is already a boot at the golf pitch, right?

They're getting one. Okay.

Okay, let's paint a boot on the water today.

And paint everybody. Yeah, we're going to be great to make everybody happy. Oh, no. Alright, so with the triangle, I'm trying to think back to what is it right now. It's just the gazebo.

Yeah, there's the gazebo, there's like an ADA parking spot with a ramp, there's the water tank, and then they have like plants, native plants around the water tank.

And then it's like a drainage thing?

the rocks that are there i haven't walked oh i think that's to water the plants okay that are like the runoff water and it waters the natural plants that they or the negative plants they put there i think it looks good i'm pretty sure the master naturalist did that yeah it looks like they thought the existing ones um so wall well while we're on the triangle should we talk about the bulletin board or do we wait Oh, we wait.

Okay.

Yeah, so it's exciting to figure out, oh, they're supposed to talk about this.

Yeah.

All right.

Next, the Brick Hollow site on Hog Creek. This is now the playground, right? Yep. Okay, so this page needs to be completely updated. So this is the playground with a parking spot?

Yes, there's two or three parking spots, and there's now a bathroom.

yeah there's a bathroom park and i'm pretty i know there's adventure too some picnic tables as well nice it's really sunny these days oh people are so mad about bathroom what will they not the city is activities so is there a camera there yes yeah

There was a big thing between surveillance camera and security camera. And it's a security camera. It's like, yes, it monitors, but it goes away after 30 days or something. And the only reason that you would look at it is if something is vandalized or something is...

So that's called a security, not surveillance. Yeah, security camera.

Is that the only part that has the camera? No, they all have them now.

The triangle has three. Wow.

yes I didn't see the man putting it out I drove I guys I don't know I would assume so because they said all parts I would think it's near the pavilion area okay okay but it's because we have a bunch of problems with with the park yeah like when the porta potty was there and stuff yeah it was not fun yeah it's more just to hopefully be like i wouldn't say like scare tactic but like please don't mess anything up right right like everybody puts time and effort into this right well are there further plans to build upon the playground or update or add anything yeah I know I know they're talking about like refreshing the wood chips like the mold strips on there that was the last council meeting yeah yeah it's supposed to be like nine inches but 88 compliance and stuff like that awesome love it yay all right and then Augusta also has some updates so they have the security camera

they should have a spirit account or not yeah I don't know I didn't see that I'll put a question mark yeah the rainwater tank's not there yeah they have the rainwater tank they have watch you all I think it says that yeah concrete picnic tables um they have the beanbag toss hmm Cornhole. Cornhole.

Yeah.

But no equipment, you know, because all of that is degraded. Right. But then they have those little walking trails. Yeah.

Although.

uh way station because that's really attractive yeah there's two little places that that little uh Girl Scout did you know and it's really lovely but there's like two little in a little information sheet there um and that the water The water tank and the water. Yeah, it has a big information board. You know, when we take the updated pictures.

Yeah, yeah. After the native plant RFP, Yes. Where it's all nice and clean every day. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

The Dark Skies meter there that Justin installed. So it's on the roof of the water.

So yeah. So he'll somewhat infrequently go and read all the paper back and share. That's so cool. That's wonderful. Awesome. Okay.

yeah that little part could be really cute i mean it just and it's been fun yeah yeah it just needs a little bit of love and i think it could really be cute it says it has an encircling and perfected nature trail so are there yeah and so those are those little signs but one can't read them right now because if things and i don't know that they're interpretive signs when i think of an interpretive sign i think more about like blue hole you know and all those where it tells you about something or it's gotten, but then it tells you what this is.

It would be great if we could have interpretation. That would be fantastic. That is something for the master naturalist.

But also, you know, having whoever this person is who is responsible, because one of the challenges I think about volunteers is they can come in and do this great job, but they're not coming back.

I don't know if this, I mean, if it all goes well, I would

it maybe would be like a yearly thing yeah yeah um but where it might be get everything in order and then hopefully we can all maintain it yeah yeah you say that and then that's the hard part because that's exactly where this park is now you know if it's like great visions and then nobody's there to keep it up you know so all right green space right of way

this one I'm very curious about um are there future plans for nope cool and I know um there's in the this coming Council agenda there's like tree plantings that um Deborah's bringing okay um in November right No, in this coming July 8th meeting, there's a discretion possible action to approve the purchase and installation of seven new trees. And then, so it's like one would be on a tree island between Brookmeadow and Shady Grove and Augusta. So maybe, yes. So, I mean, you could add trees, but then also sometimes it's view blocking.

You kind of have to watch the right-of-ways, but I don't know if you really do much.

One thing that I've been adding to these, because they're subsistence, are the right-of-way signs on either side of the trees. So should we add those?

Yeah, maybe. I can't remember. Okay. Yeah, the speed humps.

Yeah.

Oh, those will be out there.

Those will be on the parks. Yeah, that's not the parks. That's the roads they've got.

Yeah.

Sorry if you didn't know I came up with the right accent.

Oh, no, I did not. I think, well, I know, like, here, like, people would almost back into the trees and stuff. People don't pay very much attention, especially in the dark.

Yeah. And that makes sense on, like, a main thoroughfare.

Yeah.

But there's nobody ever on our street.

Well, and I know, I think also it was, it might have been in, like, the safety enhancement with the engineers.

That makes sense. That's probably where it sourced from.

That's probably where it came from.

Yeah.

Fabulous. All right. So our summary, that should still be the same. Opportunities.

We're now on page 16.

Okay.

And so, you know, a lot of these were projections, so they've done the triangle, right? You know, it's the first sentence, the triangle deserves attention, because it did look like that before, not the gazebo.

So I guess on, like, relating to the maps, so it's like this one shows all the parks that have been developed, I guess, I mean, except the one across the across from Memorial, but compared to Eleanor, highlighted in red, and then the ones above kind of shows all the city.

Yeah, because I think that one includes all the little dots that are the… The tree islands. Thank you.

The things.

Does the triangle have a drinking fountain and interpretive signage? It has a drinking fountain. Where's the drinking fountain?

It's on, so if you're coming into the neighborhood and you turn right when you get to the triangle, it's right there.

Okay, I'll miss that. Okay. Because it's like the board recommends that in park benches, we've got that drinking fountain, graphic elements to represent the city of Wood Creek. That would be the booth. The booth. And interpretive signage and native plants. Interpretive signage.

I know there was signage of like the Canterbury and Judea sign. Maybe that's what that's referencing, but we had vandalism on those. You're kidding. Oh yeah, no people broke them. like yeah oh my god that's why they're not there at the moment okay okay people bought them i have nothing to say was there a wooden sun yeah they're like kind of arrowed but it's so important for people to know where that is okay i will tell you when i first started working here we had um i used like a training or something like literally two weeks into working and i had to go to cyj and i had no idea where it was really yeah i think one of those signs telling you where to turn i remember the first time i tried to get there i couldn't find it you know there's so many yeah wow that's not a um like an anti-semitic that's what i was saying yeah who knows yeah i'm not sure let's find the vandal that passed them

Yeah.

Yeah.

There you go. Are there cameras there?

In the triangle?

Yeah. You said there's three, right?

Yeah, she said there's three. I don't know how many. I've seen three of them. Okay, I would say that's Jim. Jim is the head guy on all of this.

Did he catch the people they deleted? No. That is before we were through. There's another reason for getting them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

All right. Sorry. So within three years, triangle page. This is where we would eventually decide on our work.

Your future.

Update. Okay.

Just trying to make anything else.

I heard.

Well, I mean, it's got to, you know, I mean. We didn't write anything down with it needed. No, I think it's got it.

Yeah. Can we just mark this page as done?

Or at least right now, you know, I mean, it's like, Unless you, because we're not going to tackle the boot or the pain, you know, I mean, but in terms of something else, it doesn't seem like it needs anything else. It's got any plans. I mean, the signage. I mean, potentially a bulletin board. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Where would that go? Um, yeah, I have a whole packet.

Okay. Okay, so then the next one within three years for the Memorial Plaza.

I don't know that there's any need for additions there. I agree.

could maybe like this is just me saying i know driving in the um big table like the round circular cement table it's like very crooked and so i don't know if like getting a new table or something somehow yeah it's it's a very big table to move but that's yeah i see that every time i drive it and then i know deborah was talking about it's part of like the lines you know how limestone chips yeah yeah and so uh

the flagpoles it's starting to chip right here okay so some upkeep some repairs or something like that yes i think that's another good reason to have like a field trip today exactly yeah exactly i'm so right you know i mean it's like and everyone thinks like you go and you write down your notes and then you bring it to okay okay yeah i think that way yeah so there would be no harm in like more than more than two of us going on this little no you just you know and i post it and then you can ask deborah too deborah's a lot better understanding all of the yeah telling our rules and all of them but we can't make a decision we're just making our notes and then breaking back yeah but we can say it community like three days ahead of time or something yes yes yes

it's 72 hours but i i do them i like to be well in advance for nobody questions when i had it yeah i think we should definitely consult on a day that would work for all of us just meet up in an afternoon there's that like an hour yeah just go get all i like that idea a little better too and maybe we can all just waste that table

So how do we go about claiming that that's not, I couldn't send an email.

um so you can send or i could send an email like bcc okay that's what i did for like everybody saying like yes i meant or like i don't see why you couldn't say it now and then i i can also talk to them and be like hey they're planning on doing it this day there's a cpa and then i could send an email and say yeah i know i need to go okay so well i really would not want an afternoon in this heat so either morning early morning you know i'm gonna be gone for like a

in from the middle of July to 1st of August. I just think of August, oh my God, you know, like early morning. Is there a morning that works for you during the week? It depends on what it is, because when school starts, that's kind of a different game.

so i don't know if we want to decide like if you want to yeah i can send an email or yeah you can you can send emails just as long as you bcc or you can do like i will just bcc everybody or i can do it just to where then it's can i um am i allowed to do something like a when to meet like a yeah yeah it's not available here yes okay and i could send that to you that's like for like us for example on my outlook on the email it's like you get sent invites and yeah okay so i'll make one with some suggestions i'll see deborah on monday so i can actually do it and just email anything please that'd be great yeah because then i can put that up and then send it to you and send out and then y'all just

go and fill in their availability. Sounds good. Awesome. So with Augusta Parker, I think we talked about some different recommendations of keep and replacing and things that should really maybe be prioritized on our plan.

Revitalization of it. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, with somebody again, because I think Sean is obviously, you can tell, because Becky was showing me that he, where he mows, you know, but he doesn't have the understanding, like, to know what the weed is, what is it, you know, and frankly, it all looks so lush, you know.

She was in the practicum for, for when really she came to work to your, And she's still here during the summer before she goes to college. And so she goes to the parks and she sits, she's been sitting there trying to pull weeds. She's like, I can't try. She's like, it's so hot. I mean, she wants to, she wants to get out, but she only does it in the morning.

What is the deadline for the RFP? Is there a set deadline?

Yes, it is. And I just put them on the website. I did not know how to do it on the website. Let's see.

If I can figure out the bid opportunity.

I know which tab. It closes July 8th.

Oh, okay. Perfect. That'll be good. Yeah. you know and that might be more fun if there's actually a person that we could meet with the person right you know because it's like otherwise it feels like it's we're going to talk we already know but it's like we could just if that person was available you know when i said all heads were in the same yeah and it's like okay this is what we do i mean uh is there i'm sorry is there like an intended start date after that i do not know that closure okay

I think that they would, it would probably be set up between Debra and Jim.

Okay.

They're usually the schedulers of, or Jim was usually the scheduler of the keeper of the month. Yeah. And then I, it's all, that is all. Yes.

Awesome. Okay. Great. So then page 20 has the three to five year plan.

Does this work? How long have interpretive signage?

It does not, but it's got the,

Because it just says for people of all ages to interpretive signage. So that's obviously a buzzword throughout this whole thing. Interpretive signage means where you're engaging the visitor and there's a story. It doesn't mean this is a firm.

It's a different, you know, I wonder, I mean, this just random thing, if you could do it a little, you know, like the metal historical markings like this.

park became a saying in yeah I think that's 2020. yeah well I like this too where they they had said attention will be given to the protection of the watershed um yeah and they're working on the bridge that waterway section the one that's right next to the park that's great that would be a great opportunity for signage right there talking about

I think, you know, it's like when it says for educational opportunities, that's the whole idea rather than, you know, here's the history or, you know, because we say somewhere about the cultural significance, which frankly, you know, culture and you know I mean it's like but this could be a piece of it right you know it's education and water and trees and you know part of the culture it would really be a focus on conservation that's what I think in a culture is in terms of you know the other thing that I would suggest for the uh the playground is more shape

oh man it is it is a hot little playground there's trees but like where there's seating it's not necessarily in the shade could there be like a sunshade somewhere yeah i know parks they do like the little like yeah oh she's not like the sails yeah yeah so usually it's like bright blue yeah yeah we could use for being a little nicer yeah but thank you i think that would be a benefit for folks who want to watch their kids play well absolutely yeah that's right that's okay i already did shame i love this all right

This next one I'm very excited about because I have lots of questions about how this will work and where it will go. The trail system. So it looks like it's designed to go from this parking lot area.

All the way to the apartments. All the way, yeah.

all the way to the apartments down with down 12. so they're right away like literally behind that's how i'm reading this right now it's like behind city hall the whole 10 foot you have to the road not even and like you know you have it all the way down the fence line i don't see how that i don't either i mean i did not come out of this i do not know

The only thing that I can maybe envision would be if it's like the Galici-Landstone Trail, like they have the Blue Hole Trail. Because they talk here about it being an extension and being able to cross across Ranford 12 to connect with Blue Hole.

Like around here, that's expensive. Yeah. That wood creek drive. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, my only thing, too, is a lot of that's ditch on that side. Yeah. It already leads from, like, wood creek to the apartments almost. And, like, I know, for example, like, say... How do you think of that? Say a deer is hit on... Oh, gosh. Yeah. On that side, just, for example, it's like, we don't pick it up. Yeah. Because that's technically on, like, 12th side.

Mm-hmm.

So I don't understand exactly how this fits into... we have questions about this yes yeah and i wonder if this was like we would love to have a trail system but this is the only feasible space that we have to do this in yeah i don't know yeah i mean that was like the whole thing like the walking trails because like people thought their mailboxes were gonna get ripped out and that yeah i mean i know i think they are working on the walking trail

That's not saying that it's happening by any means. On this set? No, no, no.

I think the engineers, I think it was approved for them to do a survey, not a survey to everybody, but as in they walk and figure out where you would even want if it's a possible thing. But mind you, that's just a plan. Everybody thinks that if that gets proved that it's going to happen, it's still very highly unlikely.

but well is there another place that I'm not a hero like somewhere else where it would be a good Inwood Creek for a trail for a walking trail like a really significant walking trail but then I guess could connect if you cross the street well you would just have to handle the golf course that's yeah everybody has asked them I said why Apple has to

If you talk to Dairon about it, she can explain a whole lot better than me.

Not even like the perimeter of their property? Interesting.

Well, because, I mean, it would practically be anybody that wants to walk in there needs to go sign a waiver.

Yeah. Yeah.

You're really worried about that, I guess.

I mean, if you think about the big grand scheme of things, because it is private property.

Yeah. And I guess they aren't liable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's not like the dog park issue, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. There's a nature trail loop at City Hall around the water tower. That's right here.

That's what that sounds like. That's an actual trail.

This trail will include a nature trail linked at City Hall around the water tower and signage. Interpretive signage? Interpretive. We love that. We love that throughout the whole thing.

Actually, this just says signage. This is the first one that just says signage. No interpretation.

No interpretation.

And for responsible water conservation. But see, that's out there at the water tower.

I did not know that there was a litter on the water tower.

We can go check it out right now. We could. We could.

I walked around the city hall, and I never went to walk.

Of all the people we should know. Is it back behind your garden?

i i've gone behind the garden and like we put big because somebody that lives on this side would keep cutting through pretty much because there's like whenever they're building the aqua texas stuff they would pull in their trailers so they had a lot of stuff so it was kind of like a little entry to 12. and oh it's this one car and so finally we had our land management like the mower guy he brought big old rocks and he he liked that section so you can't pull your car through there and that person probably had a bag yeah i have got some of the traits that's when you need a camera oh my god wow oh yeah it's the community garden I never go by, like, because the aquaponics is, like, you know, they have that big fence around it. Yeah. So, to me, it kind of looks like an aquaponics.

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's scary. Yeah.

There are kids that sometimes walk, like, on the right side of it. So, maybe there's a little. Huh. I say that. It's, like, kids, I think they live, you know, the houses that are, like, right off. Oh, yeah. Up here.

Yeah.

My assumption is it's them, but I could be wrong. Yeah.

And if you want to mention, I have kind of a hard out at six.

That's perfect. Yeah. Right. Me too.

We're coming.

And we can always do another workshop too. So. Okay.

Yeah. I think this was good to kind of get a feel for this and start chewing on it. But really, I think we hit all the rest of it because the rest is just appendix. Right. So that being said.

Where's my script? And you're just going to exit workshop at what time?

Yes, we will be exiting workshop at 5.48 p.m. Perfect. All right. And then the only other thing, oh, discussion of possible action to form subcommittees. Do we want to table that to next time?

Yes.

Can we get, do we have to move those here?

No, obviously not. No action taken.

Okay. All right, and then the last thing that we have is the discussion of possible action to provide council with a report on the design and installation location for the community bulletin board at Triangle Park. This is with costs not to exceed $2,500 from the Trees and Parks budget line items. And then I have the information here. So this picture on the top would be where it is right next to that small, the young Judea sign. It is quite large.

There's actually dimensions on it.

Yeah, so is it just open or does it have like a plastic glass? Yeah, it has a window.

That is one of the questions. What was the question?

Who would be tasked with maintaining that?

Yeah. And a frigging...

Think about vandalism. I'm sorry, but, you know, I'm just thinking.

We had one at Cypress Point, and people constantly take everything down.

These are grown-ups. These are adults.

It was brought by CRC because people, again, people got mad about, like, nobody liked all the little stick-in-the-ground signs that we had. But that's why they're like, well, we could do this, and we could put our... stuff on instead of having tin signs throughout the city and then also like you're not allowed to put like your lost pet you're not allowed to put it on stop signs and stuff like that it's not allowed so we're gonna take it off sadly yeah and so it's like this would be a spot like if you're having a garage sale and you want to go put that piece of paper out you go do it the only thing is just the upkeep of like

I'm not a huge fan of this daydreamer ground. If we were getting a jingles and board, I would suggest that we use like one of the window spaces in the gazebo to hang it. Yeah. And put it there so that it's not jingling.

Could you put it here somewhere? That was another one of the things with like putting in the gazebo. So if people didn't like them ever, they'd put like the jingle and jingle, like the sign on one side of it because it walks with you into the yeah yeah that's a big question you know a community uh bullet reward seems like it should be around city hall well and that's so we have the little free library and then i also have my own bullet that there is a bulletin board okay but it's only for me like is there a place to put another one for Community yeah I mean that's you think about it though and this is just obviously my friends this is y'all's decision to make but it's like if you put one on the road whoever's going to be standing there putting signs is going to be literally glued to the side of the road and nobody's gonna actually stop and this is just my thought nobody's gonna stop on the side of the road unlike that's what they like well if it's at a park it's in an open space so say you're holding your kid's hand and you're trying to read it but it's a little bit more leeway and it wraps but no because i think i'm thinking back to like when they were talking about having an emergency site at the

know in the entrance well if you're out if i'm at cypress point and it's raining or it's frozen and i can't get out which has happened every year you know i'm not going to be able to come down here right you know but it seems like the same thing for this park i mean you'd have to people that lived clothes are going to use it well that's why they picked the giant because it's like the central yeah it's kind of the happy medium between all the places and that's where they host a lot of the events yeah obviously a lot of the events but

So I personally am in favor of this. And it's not green.

I think they taste like a raw cedar. Oh, nice.

Yeah, cedar. My concern about this is that if we have it open and where anybody can post anything, that's where you run the risk of getting some.

And so that was one of the questions that Debra, she gave me. so yeah who would manage it oh so that was think that's the reason parks board wished to take on the maintenance and care no respectfully respectfully well and obviously it was going to be volunteers like crc i mean it could also crc maybe you want to i don't know yeah but this was their item and the council sent it back to y'all because it's being put at a park okay and that was like kind of the reasoning for it but crc wanted it to notify for events and stuff like that. So it's kind of a 50-50 between the two of y'all. Yeah. I think the city secretary, she might have a lot. I don't think it would be, you know, I have a lot to do every day, so I don't think it would be that hard, but today it is.

I just think it's going to have a lot on it. Yeah, so it looks like it's got a lot. Okay, so like if I'm, you know, lost my cat, I'm going to have to then contact who?

No, it'll be open.

Like, it'll have... It will be open.

Yeah, like, you will be able to slide and put your own thing and close it. Okay. And that was, like, the thing. It's like, okay, well, what if there's a lost cat sign up there for two years? So, at some point, somebody wants to put something else up there. So, it's kind of... I feel like it can be self-maintained to an extent. So, if you run out of regular... Oh, well, this day passed and this girl too. I can take that down.

I don't know.

I don't know if it would be, like, a once-a-week check thing or a...

Somebody's got to manage it, because I just think it's asking for challenges.

I just envision, like, let's say I'm like, ah, we're going to do a pollinator festival. Here's my sign for it. And Joe Schmo thinks that we should kill the butterflies. then he has the ability to come and just write down my sign with no regulation. Or deface it. Or going back to the potentially nefarious situation with the Campion Judea sign.

And that's it. I think it's just giving an opportunity. Somebody's going to scratch stuff into that. That's for right now. I mean, is there some way to just...

you could as it is like I would rather provide more shade than a bulletin board absolutely well and that so it was brought or council said to bring it back to y'all so this is like your decision poll right oh yeah she said please encourage them to vote what they think meaning the goal is not just to approve the council proposal but to decide what y'all which will which would be not going forward with it change the location So my thought was to do it at the park, but I thought that that would be, because I feel like a lot of adults go there, not many, but there's chair yoga at the triangle. They do do that and stuff like that.

I would like for us to wait until we actually want to move on and we'll want to move around along the park and really take a, you know, a good look at everything. Yeah. So make that motion. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah. So is there any motions that we're going to need to table it?

The board has the chance to look at all the properties and maybe there's a better location. And for me to see the new garden. Yeah.

So all in favor, aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

We agreed to table it.

I think we can do more instructive things.

I do too. It's going to cause more problems. Yeah. Yeah.

find out when people run down so just a quick consideration for items for next regular meeting sounds like we're winning um that's y'all's choice y'all can do more or you can have it i think that's what we said was the first wednesday at 4 30 right yeah will you be here august 5th

now that looks good for now it looks good yeah perfect i'm still in me either on the job front so i don't know it's so fun i'm going to long beach to work the world i have to back down in production and

and then that's done so put that didn't lock the camera while we're on this one um there were some new questions and it says does the trees and parks board wish to support the installation of a community bulletin board on city-owned land and costs coming from the choosing parks budget line item and that i'm just going to put table yeah and then um because i was thinking i was like have i bought that i don't know how to

Yeah. Reference what she is.

White, yeah. Does the trees and parks board agree with the location of the installation after Triangle Park or would the board refer the community bulletin board to be installed on a different park or location? Playground, Memorial, Augusta. We would like to table that question. And then does the trees and parks board support the style of a two-sided natural colored community bulletin board?

We'd like to table that discussion.

And then, yeah, and then the other one was the maintenance.

So that would be. So question about that old award in and of itself. Has it been approved that we're going to have one?

no okay so that was the thing it was yeah crc brought it almost as like since digital design the community relations okay they're the ones that host all the events the digital sign was a no like the digital sign at the front yeah yeah yeah like that was a no so they're trying to find other ways to reach out to people that don't want to sign up for lovely notifications and stuff like that Because some people like relied on the sandwich board and some people hated it. So you can throw it away. But there's something about the sandwich board that's gone.

I think there's got to be another option besides a bullet board. I really do. I just feel like given our population and given some, just because we have one.

Well, and if you wanted to, you could like say you come up with an idea at the next meeting. You could put it as considerations for items at the next meeting. Okay. And then in that meeting, we could say, send it to council for consideration. So then whatever. You're right.

Let's do this.

Yeah.

Because, you know, thinking, we'll just think of other. Right.

I can ask Deborah if at the next one, I can say like workshop regarding possible. I didn't see because that's I get very confused when it comes to like the the wording of Council is very specific yeah of what they ask and so I don't want to tell y'all something and then not be

Right. Yeah.

It's not a responsibility.

Yeah, it is. So it happens not to get that. Yeah, absolutely. We're grateful for you. We're all upset.

I'm so grateful for you. So before we adjourn, considerations for items for the next meeting, which will be August 5th at 4.30, discussing bulletin board options, doing a workshop on that, and then doing a workshop with the master plan on subcommittees. Does anyone have any announcements?

Do y'all, are y'all doing subcommittees or are y'all just going to kind of do it together? Can we do it just collectively? Yeah. So I'll just do a, it'll perhaps be a workshop almost every evening if y'all want.

That's beautiful. It's more productive. Otherwise it's going to be two of us going, I mean, you know, it seems like we're small enough that we can do like. The need for a subcommittee will present itself. Yeah, exactly. If we don't use it right now.

Good idea.

Perfect.

Yes. Yeah, we're killing it.

Any announcements from anyone? No.

We need t-shirts. That's my announcement.

There was a Wood Creek trees shirt. There was? My husband has a works shirt. Where did you get that?

that was a crc thing too again i don't know what all okay

That's that's another question.

Yeah, we would like to ask the board. Yes, basically to our site visits, we'll all have our tea. People will know who we are. We have our orange vests. Yeah. And campaigns. She's very good at remembering all the faces of all of the meetings.

Backstories of them.

Well, do we have a motion to adjourn the meeting? I have a motion. I second. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.