Planning Board - Regular Meeting

the the clock is wrong. I know it's wrong. That's That's what I was just telling Komic battery off out of Yeah, we need to do that. Good afternoon. I would like to call the meeting to order and welcome everyone to the May 8th, 2025th meeting of the city county planning board. Would you please stand and join us in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Today's meeting is being broadcast live on TV 13 and will be rebroadcast at 10:00 a.m. Friday morning and again at 400 p.m. Sunday afternoon. Our first order of business today will be the consent agenda. These are items for which the petitioner is requesting withdrawal or continuence or items for which staff has recommended approval and no one has signed up to speak in opposition. for public hearings today. Each side will have a total of 12 minutes. There will be no rebuttal period. Once the public hearing is closed and the board goes into work session, no one is permitted to speak unless a planning board member addresses them for a question. For general use district zoning request, the planning board must consider the full range of uses allowed in the zoning district being requested. The petitioner may not refer to a specific use for the property. for special use district zoning request. However, the petitioner must identify the intended use or uses of the site and give specific details on how the site will be developed. Items under section B of the agenda will require final action by the appropriate elected body, either the city council or county commissioners. As such, votes taken today by the planning board concerning these items are

recommendations that will be considered by the elected bodies during their review of the request. Before addressing the planning board, we will need your name, address, and zip code for the record. Our first order of business will be the approval of the minutes of the April 10th and April 24th meeting. Is there a motion? Move approval. Second. Motion by Mr. Lamb. Second by Mr. Grubs. Any discussion? All those in favor? Sign of I. I oppose the same sign. That is unanimous. All right. I'm now going to call on Mr. Brian Wilson to review the consent agenda for today. Good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. Our first item is B1. That's case F1392. This is the Brookberry Farm Land Bay 7 final development plan. They have requested an automatic continuence to your June 10th meeting uh to continue to work with NC DOT on finalizing any road improvement requirements. And our next item is B2. That's F1659. Petitioner is Kernerville Little League Baseball Incorporated. Requesting return an HBS zone site to RS40. It's a 2.81 acre site located at the western terminus of Sunstall Road north of Sahibi Road. You can see it's right there at the county line with Guilford County in the eastern eastern part of the county there. Uh the site is uh entirely surrounded by RS40 zoning and AG zoning there just to the west. Just a little bit of context, this was uh zoned back in I think it was the 80s uh for the single use of out um outdoor recreation for the baseball fields. And Ariel may not do it justice, but there are three uh baseball fields there today. And then there's a little pavilion building on site as well. You can see that single family neighborhood there to the south and southeast and then uh the mixture of woodlands and fields there to the north and

northwest. There is no partial specific landies recommendation. Uh this is in the rural policy area. However, the northeast rural area study does generally recommend a large lot residential development within the immediate area. This resoning is effectively a reversion back to the original zoning before it was reszoned back in the 80s. Uh staff does recommend approval for this resoning request and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Any questions for staff? All right. No one has signed up. Is anyone here opposed to this recommendation? We have one back there. We do have someone. Okay. Then we need to take this off the uh agenda, consent agenda, right? We will come back to this since we have to go into a public hearing. All right. So again, for the record, we'll be taking item B2 off of the consent agenda to the public hearing. And then moving on to item C1, that's PBR 2025-07. Uh owners are Tom Thomas L. Blakeley, Katherine H. Blakeley. Uh this is uh the Storm Mount Village PRD. Uh they're requesting a 55 lot PRD in an RS9 zoning district. Uh site is approximately 13.41 acres located on the east side of Stormount Drive, north of Jandel Lane. You can see it's just north of Motor Road there. And just at the far northeastern corner, you can see Old Rule Hall Road there just to give you a little bit of context. And this is the proposed site plan. It does show a single access point onto Star Mount Road. Uh they'll be terminating both the north and south and culde-sacs and it's going to be double loaded on either side on the entrance street. They're showing the required active open space on the southern portion of the site. Uh then one mail kiosk area there uh as you right at the intersection for easy access uh for the

residents. The site plan does meet all UDO specific requirements and staff does recommend approval for this request. Move approval. Second. Motion by Mr. Lamb, second by Mr. Groves. Any discussion? All those in favor sign of I. I. I. Opposition. That is unanimous. Okay. Our next item is C2. That's PBR 2025-08. Uh owners are Ann Elizabeth Sink, John George Sync, and Fellowship Baptist Church. Uh this is the South Oak subdivision. It's a 154 lot PRD request in RS9 zoning district. The entire uh site is about 46.64 acres and it's located at the northern terminus of South Oak Drive north of Teague Road. You can see Thomasville Road uh to the north off site there. And just a little more context, this is a recent subdivision fiddler landing there. It'll be kind of across the creek there that's building out now. And this is the overall site plan. You can see the two proposed street connections. You've got this full connection here next to the church on the eastern portion of the site and this will be connecting into an existing subdivision street on the western side. Uh the stream does prevent any uh connectivity with the subdivision to the north as mentioned. However, staff has worked with the petitioner to provide a stub connection to the north in case that uh area does develop in the future. That's the the closest rational connection um to Thomasville Road to the north should that ever develop. The site plan does show excellent internal connectivity. Uh this is kind of potted off with the that internal stream shows all required active open space areas and uh does the site plan does meet all UDO requirements and I'll just kind of show you a blow up of uh each individual section. So this is kind of the eastern side. This would most likely be your phase

one. And then it shows that northern um stub and this is the western connection here. That'll likely be phase two. And as mentioned um oh did want to mention they are showing the required greenway easement along the southern bank of uh Fiddler's Creek. And they are also volunteering a uh public connection to that greenway from the terminus of this uh spine road here. Uh again, the site plan does meet all UDO requirements and staff does recommend approval. Be more than happy to answer any questions. Move approval. Second. Motion by Mr. Lim, second by Mr. Grubs. Any discussion? All those in favor, sign of I. I oppose the same sign. That is unanimous. All right. And our last item on the consent agenda is C3. That's PBR2025-09. Uh owner is FL 96 radio LLC. Uh this is the Wake Forest Christian Study Center requesting a limited campus use in the RS9 zoning district. It's a 0.66 acre site located at the northwest intersection of Friendship Circle and Polo Road. You can see the campus right there. That's the CZ zoning there right across the street kind of um caddy cornered to the site at the intersection. And this is the proposed site plan. And again, it is a hand-drawn site plan by the architect utilizing an existing uh survey. Uh again, the the the petitioner is not requesting any expansion of the existing structure. They're proposing to reutilize that structure. What they're showing here is the addition of the required parking and then the required sidewalk connections to that parking and then to the street. Uh as you can see in this note, um this use does allow the planning board at their discretion to require a type one buffer yard along other uh single family zone sites. Uh he's showing that kind of um highlighted in green there where that would go. However, in this case, I'm

just going to show you an aerial. They're effectively asking to utilize this existing structure and then show the uh existing parking. Uh it again it's up to the discretion of the board but staff did not feel it was uh needed at this point just because they aren't proposing any expansion of that structure and you can see how far away those other single family homes are to the site. Therefore unless the PL plan board wants to volunteer that um staff did find that the plan does meet all other UDO requirements and recommends approval of this request as shown. Move approval. Second. Do we receive any calls from anyone regarding this? No sir, we did not. Okay. We have a motion by Mr. Lamb, second by Mr. Grubs. Any discussion? All those in favor sign of I. I oppose the same sign. That is unanimous. All right. And that concludes the consent agenda. We'll move on to our public hearing item for this evening. Mr. Chairman, we'll go back to item B2. Uh, and Brian did a good job of teeing that up. we'll pull the presentation up, but I guess what I would say is we'll be glad to answer any questions that the planning board may have, but at that point, I think we can just turn it over to the to the folks who have made application and then the uh opposition. All right. So, we will now go into a public hearing for case 1659. As a reminder, in the public hearing there each side will have 12 minutes. There will be no rebuttal period. We have in favor speaking uh Sean Koffer. I think that is Kofheer, Nikki Rothweiler, and Mary Falp. Uh if you would please come up and state your name, address, and zip code for the record and let us know what you would like us to know, please. So Sean Kofer first. Uh good afternoon. My name is Sean Kofheer. Uh 454 Hopkins Road,

27284 in Kernersville. Um I am uh I've been part of the associated with Kern Little League for about 20 years now. Um there was a time that uh these fields were used because we had just a huge amount of um players. So, we needed these fields as practice fields because we did not have have the space at at the existing little league. It's been about five or six years since we've used these fields in that manner. Um, every once in a while there's there's a one team or something that will go down there for practice, but the the fields have not been maintained like they should be should have been like they used to be. Um, not really the best neighbors with uh with not being able to cut the the grass and everything. We have fewer board members, fewer so we just don't have the resources to go down there. Um, so we've put this property up for sale and uh part of that is being reszoned. Okay. Are there any questions for Mr. Kofer? Uh, so they're not being used that they're not being used by cars little league at all anymore. Are the regular fields nearby? The regular fields are uh right up county line road. So less than I've seen it. Yeah. Less than 5 minutes away from from that that park. So Okay. Thank you, Mr. Kofheer. Uh, how much time left? 11 minutes. 11 minutes. Uh, Nikki Rottweiler. Rockweiler. Okay. If you can state your name, address, and zip code for the record. Uh, Nikki Rottweiler. Uh, 7088 Avanbury Circle in Kernersville, 27284. Um, I am Kernersville Little League's real estate agent. when they had approached me about selling the fields um because of it's nonprofit, the maintenance on the field is high. Um it's it's sending funds to, you know, to to take care of the field and the liability of existing structures that

are not being taken care of. Um and they would rather use those funds to support the fields they are using and the program. Um, one of the things we talked about when selling the field is that that should be house. It should be a house in there. It's residential. Everything around it's residential and agg. Um, and so they had approached me about wanting to sell it and wanting to get it reszoneed residential because they feel like that's the best use for that land. Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Thank you, Miss Carala and Miss Mary Faulp. How much time is left? 10 minutes. You have 10 minutes, Miss Faulp. Okay. My name is Mary Falp. I am the heir to the home at 9245 Sahabi Road for William and Mary Barton. Um, excuse me. If you could give us your name, I mean your address and zip code. It was 9245 Sahabi Road. And your zip code? 27284. Thank you. You're welcome. Uh, the thing I want to let you know is I've spoke to numerous of the neighbors. Everyone wants to see this return to a residential area due to the fact it would be much better service that way and I just feel like it would just be best benefit the county for people for housing and homes. Thank you. Any questions for Miss Fulp? Uh, do they have to be only to her or can they be in general? They can be in general to uh any of the proponents? Uh, not that this is in the cards at all, but but does the requested zoning allow for a a public park if that were to ever be envisioned? Are you asking staff? I'm sorry. I thought you said you were asking the proponents.

Yeah. Uh, under the current zoning, no, because it's it's uh it's recck services outdoor, I think, is what that would translate to, which is not a public park. Uh, you have um you have a standalone use in the ordinance that deal with public park. This is this was reszoned in 1987 for a use that's no longer in the ordinance, but it transfers to uh wreck services outdoor. Uh let me reward that then. If the resoning were approved, if the resoning were approved and this uh was RS40, I believe public park parks are allowed in RS40 zoning. But again, yeah, you know, a public entity would have to buy that to do it. What what other uses are approved in the current zoning? I mean, under outdoor or recreation services. Well, rec services outdoor is a broad category, but you could do lots of things. I mean, you could have golf driving range, uh, yes, go-kart track, um, you know, like I said, ball fields. Now, again, it was approved as an S, so there was a site plan, so they would have to go through a site plan amendment to kind of change the layout, but there are lots of other uses that could be allowed under rec services outdoor. Mr. Stillman, you're good. I am correct. Thank you. All right. We will now go to um the opponents. I don't have anyone listed, so if you're in opposition, would you please come to the podium, state your name, address, and zip code for the record, please? My name is Shantel Mullen. My address is 9219 Sahabi Road. and zip code uh 27284. Thank you. And let us know what your thoughts are, please. Sure. Um well, I think in a

general sense, um I actually today spoke to many of my neighbors on um Stagal, Sahabi, and Stall. And I have several signatures here of concerned residents that we have no idea what's going on. Um, we've heard from apparently there was some realtor that came to some people stating that there was going to be knocks on all of our doors with an explanation of what was going on with a set date that never happened. Um, the signage for the reasonzoning is a bit misleading in its placement. It's only on stun stall which meaning which means the whole first half of the road never saw that signage because we all it's a oneway in one way out scenario. whatever goes in there, all of us have to deal with whatever traffic comes in and out. There's no other way in and out currently. So, and with the notice, I only received this notice because a tiny little sliver of my back property falls within the 500 ft. If you look at the map that we were given as far as the 500 foot um there are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 nine properties that would be affected by this change potentially from whatever traffic or whatever construction or whatever. Not to mention the fact that Stunstall isn't even really a paved road. It's a dirt and gravel road. Um, Sahabi is not a it's it's not a paved road like a main road. It's it's kind of a secondary road. It's a dead-end road that we all enjoy as being quiet. That's why we all chose to move there. That's why we all chose to stay there. Right now, as far as I could see with the information that was posted online, um it says that up to seven houses can go up there and 65 or

66 trips a day down those roads. Currently, those roads can't handle that. And the way that Stunstall is, if that's really the only route that's going to be in there, cuz I haven't seen any proposed site plan at this point. Um, that's a dirt road that can't be moved because of um wells and septics. How is all that going to change? And and how is that? I have three kids. I brought them here. I homeschool. So, I'm able to be here at this time. Many people are not able to be here at this time during the day. And again, many of these people didn't even receive a notice and didn't see the placement of the zoning signs. Um, we feel that everybody on our roads, since it is a oneway in, one way out, should have been notified. Um, and a zoning sign should have been placed at the end of our roads to hobby uh adjacent to stickall. Um there were some other people who basically said um we would like to hold off on a vote till all of the people on Sahabi can be officially notified that this is going on as a potential change so that all of our voices can be heard. Um we don't feel like that's asking for too much and again I have the signatures here for you guys to look at should you want to. Um how much more time do I have? Eight and a half minutes. Okay. I'm not going to talk for that long. Don't worry. Um, I'm just making sure that what they said is being because a lot of them are older and could not be here. Um, let's see. Um, originally apparently somebody was told or come to came to one of our neighbors and said that there was only going to be one house put in there, a single family house, somebody who was going to be retiring. So, it just seems like there's been a lot of

miscommunication and whether that was on purpose or not, we as a community feel like we should have a voice in what's going on. It's going to affect all of us, no matter if it's one house or seven houses. Um, the construction for seven houses would be crazy on those roads. I don't know if any of you guys have actually driven down there. Take a second to drive down there and look at the conditions of those roads. Um, you know, if it snows, we don't ever get plowed ever. Um, we understand that we're way out on the edge and we don't get a lot of attention for anything, but um, I'm here to say like we're here and we just want to be part of the conversation. Whether that's actually changing it, you know, it's going to affect all of us. That's what we're asking for. I've got a question. Yes. Miss Mullen, thank you for being here, taking the time to be here and and for talking with your um neighbors about it. Is your sense in talking to them um that they would prefer to see this continue to be zoned for outdoor recreation? Well, I think in general we don't know what that means, right? So, so many of these that was part of the reason I asked the the question about the type of uses that are allowed there is to to kind of give a sense of you besides ball fields, what could be done there. And I think what staff said was that they would have to go through a a redesign of the site, but that it could be used for any number of outdoor recreation type uses without having to go through a reszoning process. So, I guess my question to you is that that's sort of the status quo at this point. Are you saying that y'all would prefer to keep the status quo versus have it developed as as residential? What I'm saying is none of us on the street have been properly informed about what these options are. And so I'm saying any vote should be definitely be

postponed. I think information should be given to the people that you know kind of outline this like what are the options here and what are the ramifications of that? I'm not a realtor. I don't I don't know the the all the ordinances on the different zonings and what what's allowed and what's not and and you know I'm I have I have a master's degree but that still doesn't mean that I'm you know what I mean and so I'm standing here saying I don't know and I know these people don't know and what I'm saying is I would like to say can we have a discussion before we we do that with some proper information. So, I'll I'll defer to staff in a moment about procedurally whether the right notices were given and signs were posted, but um and it may have been the chairman may have said this before you came in, but our vote today is is an advisory vote. Um ultimately, this matter will go before the county commissioners regardless of how we vote today. And there so there will be another opportunity for you to be heard um as to this, you and your neighbors. Um, I don't I can't tell you exactly when that will be, but you'll have notice of it. Um, and you have an opportunity to speak to them as well. So, I just want to make sure you don't leave thinking this is the end either way. And, uh, I would add to that if I may, that between now and then, you all have a chance to still get together. Yeah, Mr. I will just point out that um, and I'm sorry, what was your name? It's okay. Sean Tall. Okay. that you will receive since you have spoken. You will receive a notice of the public hearing, but the the same notification requirement that was for the planning board meeting. Today's meeting will be the same notification area that's for um the commissioners because again statutoily we have a requirement that you know that is one thing our commissioners and elected body the city council actually have a larger

notification area than what is required by statute. 500 ft is I think more than what's statutoily required, but again they have elected not to go any further than that. So we can't we can't send notifications further than what is in the ordinance. And and my comment was just that it it's a public meeting. The agenda is published ahead of time. So keep an eye on the county commissioners agendas on their website if you're wanting to know when this is going to be heard. If you're in an area that may not be entitled to notice under the ordinance. And just to add a little further to what Chris said, we did go out and verify that the two signs that are actually shown on this image right here were installed within the appropriate time per statute. Again, we kind of try to go above and beyond by putting a directional sign, not just the sign that's required by statute on the actual property. We put it at the intersection of Sahabi and Stunstall because we thought that would probably be a place where it would be reasonably seen. Miss Mullen makes a good point that there are I guess half a dozen or so lots that exist east of that development towards the Guilford County line and wouldn't be going in there to see that. So procedurally procedural here and everything was done properly. Correct. It was and again a lot of times whenever and again to to speak to again the directional sign and the sign a lot of times when we're going to an intensification for a reasonzoning we probably would have put the the directional sign all the way out at all to but again since this was a downzoning uh it is a downzoning from a business use to residential and it does that what's being requested does match the the zoning in the area. We felt like from a down zoning perspective, there wasn't a need to put it out. And that's the golf. And when he's saying downzoning, he's talking about, you know, from a more intensive use to a

less intensive use. Most of your neighbors would probably consider a go-kart track or, you know, a golf driving range or some of these other permitted uses as it's currently zoned would be more intrusive on the neighborhood than residential. and all of that RS40 that surrounds not just the parcel that's under discussion tonight, but all of that RS40 out there surrounding all this property can be developed to the intensity that the petitioners are requesting this property be reszoned to. So, it is their intention and if we approve it, it will it will downzone or uh you know make the property available for fewer uses. I hear I hear your concerns about the road and and all that kind of stuff. And if someone comes in with a petition, that'll be part of the discussion. If someone comes in with a petition to build seven houses, that'll be part of staff's discussion with the developer and and everything else. I'm not saying that's what's going to occur. I don't know what's going to occur, but you know, things will have to be done properly for Sure. Um, if I could ask a couple of questions because again, I don't know. None of us really know how this in here works. Um, we didn't see a site plan, but a spot for one. Um, so am I assuming that there isn't one at all? Correct. Go ahead. So, is that required? Just to give you a little more context to what Mr. Lamb was talking about, assuming someone wanted to do the full seven lots. This wouldn't be able to be done at the staff level through what we call the minor subdivision process. This would be a major subdivision, which the planning board is the approval authority on. So yes, that would require a site plan that would require the uh review by the Department of Transportation and other agencies that uh Mr. Lamb was alluding to. It would require uh for Scythe County Environmental Health to

see what their plans are to serve this since obviously there's no city county utilities. There will need to be septic tanks, no public water wells, all of those things. So, yes, there is a process that is well defined and would accommodate those things, but at this point, they're just trying to get the zoning that would allow that since they're currently limited to the outdoor recreation services that were previously alluded to. But not to confuse things, just to be clear, that's if they tried to do the full seven lots. They also could do a minor subdivision just for a couple of homes and not have to go through that process, too. So again, for for full disclosure, again, we don't know either because it's a general use request. They're they're just asking to go, if you look on the the map that's on the screen right there, you got a to the west and then everything else is RS40 besides this one little blob of HBS. They're asking to have the same zoning as your house and the property further to the north. And they would be allowed to do what's allowed on RS40 homes, those kind of things. But again, it really depends on what they would do and we don't know either. It would be up to them whenever they decide who they sell it to, what intensity they want to develop it at. So, would that help? Sort of. So, the the RS40 is single family homes. Correct. Correct. In keeping with what is your current building like the houses in your area all RS40. So, and the minimum lot size would be 40,000 acre larger. Yeah. roughly one acre lots. So so that so that you'll understand the R stands for residential, the S for single family and 40 is 40,000 square feet lot. The higher the number, the larger the lots have to be. And RS40 is the highest or the lowest

density residential development under our you can't really get unless you go into a where next to the river. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. And there was one other thing. Um, apparently there was some discrepancy between whose responsibility is Stunstall because as it sets right now, it seems as though some of the residents are responsible for making the repairs to that road. And there seems to be some sort of deed issue with the ride ofway. Maybe as it was explained to me by some of the residents that actually live on that portion of the road. um they seem to cannot get an answer on who's supposed to be maintaining that road. And so therefore, if something was to also go in there, they want to know who's responsible for that road and upkeep. It is definitely offered for public dedication. U because it is shown it it's an open, if you look on that map, unfortunately the directional sign is over top of where the intersection is, but it is offered for public dedication. That doesn't mean that NC DOT is maintaining it. That means that the original subdivision showed that as a public street and the green sign out there for Stunstall. It it's a green sign and it has dead end in yellow on it. And anyway, that signifies that it's a public street. Again, it may not be maintained at this point by DOT. Those kind of considerations again would be part of if if they come in to do a I mean if they do a major subdivision for se six or seven homes that would have to be figured out as part of that process. And so that would all be public hearing type information or would not be public hearing. It would be the items that we just whenever you got here we were going through the consent agenda. This one got pulled off. the other three items that the planning board approved, it's subject to their review

and it's a public forum, but there's not a public hearing on it. Okay. So, you'd see a site plan like you saw in those previous cases and and that kind of stuff. And also, what 15 departments are looking at this? NC DOT would be one of the reviewers of that. Okay. And again, there is the opportunity for securing offsite improvements. So if DOT, if someone was finding a way to get seven homes on here, they may look at stun stall and ask for some enhancements of that. Okay. Did that help, Miss Mullen? Mhm. Okay. How much time is left? Seven minutes. Okay. We have 7 minutes left for anyone else who would like to speak in opposition. All right. Seeing no one, I declare the public hearing closed. What is the pledge of the board? Mr. Chairman, I move the planning board find that the request is consistent with a comprehensive plan. Second. A motion by Mr. Lamb, second by Mr. Grubs. Any discussion? Uh uh just that with the known concern if if if uh you can stay in touch with the staff that's here um as as things progress and reach out to the folks that propose this. Uh I think there can always be some um some good results that would come out of that previous motion and second on the floor. All those in favor sign as I. I oppose the same sign. That is unanimous. Mr. Chairman, I further move the planning board recommend approval of F1659. Second. Recommendation for approval by Mr. Lamb. Second by Mr. Grubs. Any discussion? All those in favor sign of I. I. Opposes. That is also unanimous. Thank you,

Mr. Chairman, board. And again, just to keep in mind that that will go forward to the county commissioners at a later date, sometime in probably June would be my guess. Um, it's funny. I I have the I have the 1987 zoning file here and the argument it was a very contentious case. The planning board planning staff recommend denial of the request to go to the athletic fields. Planning board, you recommend denial and it got approved by the commissioners by 3-2 vote, but almost everything that you heard today was the opposite then. Wow. About how they wanted it. Again, it's you know, you get used to what you get used to. Uh, but again, it's just kind of funny. That was that was 1987. It was approved by the commissioners on February 4, April 13th of 1987. Uh, Mr. Chairman, w with that, uh, I stand ready to give the staff report. It is very short, right? Uh, I will first of all turn to Kirk who'll give you a preview of your work session two weeks from today. All right. Uh, again, good afternoon, planning board members. We have two items scheduled for the work session at this point. The first item is we're going to have Greater Winston Salem, Inc. go ahead and do a presentation on uh significant economic development announcements or things coming down the pipeline. That's something that we try to bring before the board every couple of years and it turns out it's been a couple of years. So, they're they're due to come back. Second thing is, as we do every May, we're going to be talking about the uh work program for the upcoming fiscal year. Amyrum is actually going to be taking over that responsibility uh going forward. So Amy and Chris and I have worked on that and also uh reached out to city and county managers. So we should have a work program to share with you and we will distribute that in advance of the meeting. Thank you,

Mr. Chairman. That brings us to our next item, which is the zoning case preview. And I'll turn to Mark for that. The next planning board will be June the 12th. Um there is it's it's we're going to have a lot more cases the this month, next month, and this month. So, we got six new resonings, two site plan amendments, the one continued final development plan that was continued this month, and one major subdivision, one planned residential development, one planning order review. 12 items. So, probably a little longer than today. Uh calls for extra popcorn. I I'll I'll defer to Tara and Shelley on that one. Uh with that, you do notice it is we did mention it before, May is historic preservation month. Um so, we have that going on. Also, I believe at the end of this month, we have the community appearance commission awards which will be held and I can't remember the exact date on that. I want to say maybe the 31st for some reason sticks out of my mind, but it's at Old Salem U Visitor Center and uh we can have that date for you at your work session. And with that um that's all staff report. Okay. Before we dismiss, I like uh to say I think it came out before this meeting that we lost a great visionary in our community, Dr. Charles Pettit with Carolina University. So, our thoughts and prayers go out to Dawn and the kids and also to the Carolina family. So, our thoughts and prayers are with you during this time. Are we going to be able to leave? We don't have our We don't have our Is there anything else for the good of the order? Sit here. Brenda gets here. Motion motion to adjurnn. Second. All right. Thank you.