Planning & Zoning - Regular Meeting

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Recording in this meeting to order. Uh we'll start with the invocation. We'll recite the US pledge of allegiance and the Texas pledge and then we'll proceed. Dear father, as we come before you today to discuss important matters, we ask for your guidance and wisdom. You are the source of all knowledge and understanding. Therefore, we seek your direction in our decision-making process. Help us to listen attentively to one another with open hearts and minds. Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas. One state under God, one and indivisible. We do have a moment to take time for citizen comments if there are any. Please feel free to come to the podium and introduce yourself. If it we will call for citizens comments before um every individual item as well. Uh, okay. We'll enter into the public hearing. Uh, request to amend the future land use plan map for an area in this general vicinity of 1806 Sunny Side Road.

Go in the time. Yeah. 6:02 p.m. Go ahead and tell us about

Good evening everyone. What we have here is a future Matthew's map amendment for the area at 1806 Sunside Road. What you have in front of you is uh a lot that was in the future land use plan or in the map 3/4 of that property does recommend commercial. It does have it to have it as commercial. The the other part is residential. It's this one. I don't want to have that one. This might be I might be looking at the Oh, I found it. Sorry about that. It's okay. Go ahead. So, the applicant um well to have it to reszone it to the commercial it we have to go through the process of amending the map. Of course the whole the whole area there 3/4 of 3/4 of it is the remaining is not

3/4 of it is residential or it's already commercial. It's recommended as commercial and it's still zoned residential. Okay. But in our in our um future land use plan it says it's recommended for commercial and that was from 2014. 2014. Yes. The property in front that's in the red is currently commercial that has RV park. Yes. And I saw the notice signed if any residents uh reply back to it go out for the res.

Oh yes. All the notices were sent out. Yes. And there was um notices published in the paper to were any was was there any response from any of the surrounding residents? No. No response. No objections. Okay. But this is right up against um there's across the street are brand new homes. There's the kind of the mini branch next door as well. Um,

the is the property owner here to speak to this?

Yeah, I'm right here. I guess I do have the property owner L's stepping up.

Well, he's gonna come on. He'll come on me. Okay. Sorry. Let us let us end it. Let us end on this and then we'll we'll do the zoning. We didn't call for for comments on on a on a that's him out. You can move on to the next one. Okay. Do I stay in or out?

Okay. We'll move on to uh B, a request to reszone a property from residential single family R1 to commercial C at 1802 and 1806 Sunny R Sun Sunnyside Road. At this time, I'll um will entertain citizen comments regarding the reszoning of that property. If you'll step forward, please. Hello. Um, my only question is Can you can you state your name, please? Alisa and I reside at 1811 Sunnyside. Okay.

Um, the only question that I have is exactly what is that they're trying to build there. The because then the only reason I'm asking this, the letter only stated that the reasoning but not exactly what's going to be put there. Correct. You want to you want to Yes. The application says RV and boat storage. That was my question. Okay.

L Mary L 1814 Sunnyside Road. Um I'm directly next to property. Um as y'all responded earlier, 1802, y'all said y'all said 1806 was commercial. Um, I had no clue that was ever commercial. 1802 was commercial, correct? No, sir. Both of those lots right now are residential. Both are residential. You you had said something about something being the RV park and right in front of it, what what borders on 181 is commercial? The RV park.

Okay. And and that does not border 181. That borders the back of this gentleman's property. So there is no border 2181 on that. Correct. Correct. But the what what I was saying was the land use plan the map recommends that prop 3/4 of it to be commercial. 1802 or 1806. 1802 and actually 1806 both. It does mix them both. Those were two different properties. One was 5 acres, one was 2 acres. Right around there. Right. Okay. Um I just had no clue those was zon recommended commercial. Yes. Okay. Okay. All right.

Okay. So, I don't mean to appear um dumb or anything, but I'm not understanding exactly what's transpired because I see a RV park that's that's right up against 181 that and that is commercial right now. Correct. Correct. Okay. So, right behind that is the property that's wanting that is residential that's wanting to be reszoned to commercial. Yes. These are two lots that are in the wrong. They're two lots. Sydney, the RV's behind parking right. Oh, sorry. The RV behind the parking ride is not

the hotel. So, you got the motel and you got the RV part. That part is commercial. Mhm. The other part that we're asking to be commercial in the future map, it's recommended to where you see the yellow part, that line, that's recommended on the blue to be commercial. The other piece, which is the yellow clock,

that's res. And you can find that on the future on our website. I do. I I heard you say, and this is probably for the owner of the property, um, for the RV and boat storage, is there ordinances for lighting and safety, uh, noise as well that could happen if somebody is pulling in and unloading stuffvious? Obviously, there's an investment their home next door. So, what type of city ordinance are there to protect those land owners, those homeowners?

One of the ordinance would be for for noise. Um, depends on how excessive the noise is. at 10:00. I believe there's other times for the weekend and holidays um that change, but that is an or for noise for RV parks and storage in general and lighting as well to protect the the surrounding homes from too much lighting that we would talk to about. We technically don't have an ordinance on anything. There's not anything in place right now. There's no lighting.

The potential of making this commercial could cause the neighboring properties to lose value because of the exhibited traffic going in and the lighting and noise congestion. There is and there also are setbacks also that they would need to follow. So that might help a little bit with lighting, but we don't have an official lighting ordinance right now. What is the setback? So setbacks when when a commercial is buted up against a residential property, it's a 25 point setback. That's not very much for

I'm just telling you what I know. I'm just saying she's got a legitimate concern. Um, and I guess to the the owner, sir, if you don't mind, um, when I see an RV and a storage area, that's what gated um security. What's your plan for the property? Yeah, it's got gates around it. You know, you're going to have two gates up in the front and then it's going to have 8 foot fence all the way around it. It's going to have security cameras. So, it's going to be push button in and push button out and not manned. It's going to be just there for any

We're going to we're going to put an office up front. I don't know what the hours will be right now. We got to just make sure this all goes through before we even plan. But the other ones that you see around, the other one is over by Leia. That's not ma'am. They call and they give you a go to go in. You pay online and then you go in park your RV the allotted spot and then that's it. That's what we would be around running it and we were even talking about maybe doing you know parking the RVs for

how many slots are you looking at doing? I think the initial is I think 60 60 RVs. Yes, RV spots. are 40 foot by 12t or 40 45 ft by 12t. And that could be an RV, that could be a truck that you have in your at your like in the front of your house that's taking up space and you don't want it in front of your house anymore. You have a spot, park it in there. So, can I have a question? Because I'm looking at your application and you're you cited boat and RV storage. You didn't I didn't know that it doesn't site that you were making it into an RV park.

It's not going to be an RV park. Nobody's going to be living there. This is just dropping their stuff off and getting out. It's just like a mini storage but for bigger things for recreational vehicles and trucks, buses, trailers, equipment, and it's all going to be covered. There's going to be metal buildings back there. Okay. Oh, really? All of the It's like the one on 77. Well, what you park under? It's like Yeah. Going to Leia. Yeah. On just like that. And what is your plan to protect your neighbors from the noise and the lighting?

Well, for one, I'm doing a 8ft fence and then I'm going to put some kind of bar on that fence to keep the light. All the lights are going to point inward

on it inward and down where you could just see the property. There's not. Right now, whenever I wake up in the middle of the night, all I see is a hotel light coming through my yard. In the back of us, there's also a commercial property and that's all I see is is for flexes lights coming through our house. So, I don't want that for anybody. I I especially don't want that for all the neighbors who live on sunny side, brother. So, all the lights are going to be inward and we're going to try to do as much as we can to make everybody around us happy. That's not what we're about is to make anybody sad. That's why everybody's here. And if they they have anything to say, I want them to come up here so we know. You know, if if somebody doesn't feel right about this, I would like to know. I'm not out of here to put anybody out. You know, I'm just looking for retirement for me and my family.

Are you planning on living at 180 for the time being? Yes. The only thing we're turning into commercial is going to be around that. That's six acres. We're leaving the 64 where the house is alone. That's going to stay residential. So, we bought the 4.9 something acres by itself and then after that we bought the 1.71 and then we had it added together which is the replatting. So, there is a reatt. So, there's a repl one property and then cutting out the 6. So we're we're changing three different times,

but leaving the house and then making everything around in commercial. So we have two sides in commercial, one side in residential, and then a street in the front. And if you look on the screen, you can see where it's um where it shows the red, that tree line. That's his property. Walk up there. Yeah. And and you see like a little drive right next to it. That's the edge of this property. Y'all see this tree line right here? Yeah.

This skinny part right here was the second piece of land I bought, which was 1.71 acres. That was an old abandoned house in the front that I tore down. Okay. So, what we were doing, this was the first land for 4.95. Both of those property and then making this where the original house is up here 6 acres right here. And then the rest of this is going to be commercial. This is commercial. This is commercial. This is residential right here. Yes.

So this is what's becoming one piece. So your your line for future goes right down the middle of the 4 whatever acres that we bought at first. But this is all in commercial 1.71 and then half of the 4.95. You're you're trying to make it all the way to the next house right here. To that road to that road that you're looking at, the white road. That's my house. That's his house. And you want that budding up against that. That's going to stay residential or is that going to go commercial?

That's it. Oh, well this commercial buting up to that. But on residential, what is it? A 25 or a 35T. You can't build any closer to that fence than that. So I mean that's abide by the setback. Well, so they're back essentially 50 ft. He's got a 25t set back and the house does too, right? Yes. Because it's buted up against it.

So in other words, he can't put anything within 25 ft of his property line and neither can the residence. So bas essentially there's 50 ft. Okay. lots in this subdivision very kind of big okay with everybody doing this to make theirs partly commercial like what's to stop everybody in the future we're just following what's in here

right we saw that the last this that we're talking future land use from 2014 still, correct? Yes. That hasn't been updated and approved since 2014. Correct.

And I like that point you made, sir. Thank you for that because I would be concerned. Those are some beautiful homes across the street there um that their property values could be impacted. That's why I'm surprised there's not as many. Thank you for coming and speaking first. Um because those are to me I think that this could impact their home values by RV storage across the street from I don't have any additional questions and I make a motion. There is no motion on this. Okay. Thank you. I think we have another person.

So my property is right across the street and I have on 181. the lighting from the heat that comes all the way to my property. So, um, talking about lighting and how is that going to affect the front, although there's really not a lot of lighting on 181 I mean on Sunny side. So, that was one of my questions. The second one is the traffic. The traffic on Sunny side because we have that um what is it?

Life on Saturdays and Sundays really really bad. And mind you, I don't think there's a lot of living there. Well, not all kids live there, but we don't really have very little kids, but I do plan on having kids. So, I want to know what that's going to look like for us. And then the third thing is what are the tax implications going to be for residents if that becomes a commercial property, but I mean your your property will remain residential. So, um you know, unless you apply for a zoning change, correct? It shouldn't impact you as long as your property stays residential. them being commercial. Okay.

Um but in you know and to be fair I think an a storage um area is not going to create a traffic jam you know going in and out of there. Um my concern is is that commercial um in my opinion needs to have its own accessibility to what it's you know potentially going to um front on and being that this property has another property in front of it so it doesn't have its own access to 181 is it that that does bother me because um I think that it But

that's behind another property commercial.

And please state your name for us. 1814 side. You mind if I walk to the side? Not at all. Are is this just recommendations from a 2014 map or what is this? Yes, there was a land use um we had a consultant that came in at that time to do a study and this is what they what they had given us.

This was a city approved back in 2014. Well, that's kind of concerning because and I know that y'all are not familiar with all this, but anything that you're looking at this gentleman's hotel on the right side, and I'll show it to you over here. It's all residential. I mean, does anybody meet with this committee and say, "Hey, we're not going to turn all this residential into commercial." Wow, this is blurry, man. Get up close. So, this is commercial now. This is residential. All of this I cannot even see this one. Um, there's there we go. Um, oh, so all of this area right here, that's uh this gentleman's house, which is brand new. You just built that house when? 2018 20.

How old is your house, sir? But I mean those this is all residential here. This is residential. There's uh two more houses that would be residential here. I mean I think that something that needs to be looked at is why we're trying to turn residential into commercial where people live especially on streets. So I mean and that kind of follows this area all back in here. Um, I mean that would cut out all of these homes. It's all residential in here. Um, I know that's something that y'all are looking at, but it's just kind of concerning to residents that some of these people have lived there 70 years.

So, I can tell you that that's why we have these open meetings. I promise you, I've been doing this for a year and the last two meetings we've had, I've had the most. Nobody comes Oh, sorry. to voice their opinion, right? So, nobody comes to us. I was like, okay, nobody really cares about it. That's why we're glad you guys are here to state your case, right? Like

Yes. Uh my name's Ernest King. I also lower my son-in-law's house. Uh thing about it is uh everything you see all the growth everything is we we've got enough commercial stuff already. We need try and save as much residential as we can. I mean I've been there for 50 years. I don't want to see just commercial just popping up all around. Basically, that's all I got to say. You know, he he's trying to do something to make money. I can understand that. But say it doesn't happen and doesn't work out for him and who knows what's going to be there next. Thank you.

Can I add something? Sure.

I'm Red Stan, the owner. I did not know the neighbors felt this way about this and I would like to go ahead and stop the process of it going into commercial and keep it at residential. If I were known about all this stuff, I would not have held this meeting. I'm not out here to make anybody upset. It's not what I'm I'm trying to do. But these people haven't lived here a lot longer than I have. You know, I'm just a new guy coming to change. And I don't like that either. I see ranches every day being, you know, 100 acre ranches being cut up into five acre spots. And I look at that every time I say I would never do that. That's not going to be me. So that's why I did call these people and ask them what their, you know, opinions are. And, you know, it is hard to talk somebody face to face. They don't really want to tell you, but that's fine. I'm glad I heard all this stuff. I do not want to make anybody bad. I ain't here to ruin anybody's life or or endanger their kids, especially my kids. Nobody. Um, there is a lot of traffic on that road. what you know what I was seeing all I was seeing was dollar signs and saying you know what I could make this into something better I could you know there's already a buttload of traffic down this road I thought we were moving over to a small road that hardly got any traffic but like she said on Saturdays and Sundays it's a freeway going down that road you know I don't even know what the speed limit is but it's not 60 especially 100 yards from the stop sign

it's crazy out there

it's it's ridiculous and y'all talk about lights. We can see the whole town of Floresville on our the front sunny side road and and it's it's everything. So, that's what I was seeing and I guess I had tunnel vision of what I wanted and I did talk to the neighbors. I I thought pretty thoroughly, but I'm glad I heard what I heard and I do want to go ahead and just stop all the commercial deal. I still would like to do some kind of replat, you know, now that I'm I've already spent $10,000 to replplat this piece of land and I'm not going to just throw that away. So, I need to replat it into something, right? So, I mean, I don't it's I need to separate if I do sell it in the future and it's going to say commercial, you know, I I do need to maybe cut it in half, three and a half acres, three and a half acres. I don't know. But right now, it's just a funky shape that already goes around a house or all together. I I don't know. But that's something I'd like to figure out.

But as of right now, I do not want to put it in a commercial after hearing all these people's thoughts on that. You're to be commended, sir. I appreciate it. This is not something we see very often, and I think your neighbor you and your neighbors are going to have a great relationship going forward. Thank you. I I I was going to decline your motion and to go forward with the resoning and what you just said just really makes you feel for me. We live in such a small town and it's nice to hear your vision for keeping it the way it is and I think your neighbors are very relieved as well.

I'm sorry if I caused anybody any grief and you know it's just it is what it is. I was tunnel vision seeing one thing. I'm always thinking about the future and as a man who reads from the Bible a lot. It's uh makes you want to kick your own self in the butt. Is there anything we can do uh from the city perspective for not changing it to commercial but helping him with his path? It's on the agenda. So I'm actually he is not willing to move forward with any of his items. He cannot take action on his he will need to resubmit for another meeting. So um you you won't be able to discuss this item any further until he's withdrawing

since he has requested to withdrawing the resoning not the it's because it's all goes together but you we'll have another meeting in January you can just reapply and um I'm sure the city will be happy with you on that to apply your fees to your it's just the application and then giving us back to us but but he won't have to pay for his application. notices any public benchmark for future developers. So, we're going to make you the benchmark for future development. Do I need to put if I do sell it? Do I need to put restrictions? This will never be going into commercial. I think your neighbors would love you.

If you could if you could do that, it would make life a whole lot easier. But I'll see what I can. Yes. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Um, so we need to come out, right? No, we to see

go to see. So there will be no action on item B or A. Um, where are you? So C, a request to reszone a property from residential single family R1 commercial C at 964 US Highway 181 North. Uh at this time we'll entertain citizens comments. Uh if you want to go ahead and give us a description please, Cindy. Yeah. So what we have here is uh reszoning at the property of 964 US Highway 181 North where this is at. This is actually right next to Lodi Grove subdivision.

CVS. Right in front of it. Right from Loi Grove. Yeah. caddy owner to Walmart. Yeah. And it's a 5.8 acre lot that's been resold. What happened is it was annexed in. So there was no zoning. It automatically defaults to R1. So as you can see in the land use also in all 181 there was commercial and nobody from the uh subdivision. No objections. Is the owner of that of the property here today?

Is there any land on the application of what they're planning on doing? I don't think they're here, but did they I didn't see anything that what they were hoping to do other than change it to commercial. That's correct. They they just they didn't put on there what they were going to zone it for. That would come back through to us though, correct? Correct. Yes.

So, this was something Didn't we do something similar before to the property next to it since it was um the same thing you did with the property next to the Yes. Okay.

It just All you do is take comments. I'm sorry. Yes. If there's no comments and it's four tracks. Well, at this time it's just the one. It's just a 5 acre lot. It's not planned yet. Okay. If there's no citizen comments, we'll move and

um we'll move on to D. A request for a special use permit for installing a manufactured home at 7814 Street. At this moment, uh well, I guess Cindy, if you want to explain it, then we'll ask for citizens. It's a It's a special use permit for manufactur home installation. It's uh right in between Stannish and Plum Street. Okay. Um if you're facing Northwest, it's on the left hand side. Okay.

And then the application meets all the requirements. Okay. There's there's comments. a request for a special use permit for installing a manu manufactured homes at 1603 F Street. Uh you want to go ahead and explain the same thing. Um it rem it meets all the requirements. It meets all the requirements. Um new home special use permit for installation.

No objections to objections. Any citizens comments? I'm Brenda. I'm just curious if this is not a flood zone because there's a big dip right there and I have a property on corner that comes up and when it rains with all the new businesses being built on 181, it's pushing the water further up to the house that I own. So, I'm concerned about that being in flood site. Please comment.

No, ma'am. It's not in the FEMA flood map. There is You do clearly see that there's drainage that happens through that lot. Yes. But it's not in the FEMA flood map. Great question though. If if that's the case though, would the city require special leveling of the mobile home? Yes. If it's in the FEMA FEMA flood hazard area, yes, we do require that to be FEMA say all the businesses are coming around.

They conduct studies. They do um

because it happens a lot. You look at all the small towns, everything's concrete now. Everything's the water's going all over. We we have other agencies that's actually doing that also. They're doing studies for us. Um not so much FEMA, but like Sarah, they're doing that for us. If there's no citizens comments, we'll move on to F, an ordinance amending the city of Floresville Code of Ordinances, title XV, land usage. Uh, amending chapter 153 zoning, modifying the regulations for manufactured homes, manufactured home parks, and mobile homes within the city. You want to give us a um we might want to wait till we get to the item before we go over our planner to discuss this.

Yes. Then uh there's nothing further. We'll go out of our public hearing at 6:37 p.m. Um moving on to old business consider consideration and action to approve regular meeting minutes for the November 5th, 2025 meeting. Um Yeah, she was. We only have one person other than myself here that was at that meeting. So, I make a motion to approve. Okay. Can we all vote on it or do they need to abstain? That is up to them if they want to vote on it. We do not have enough members to vote on it. You can bring it back. Okay. Do you all feel comfortable voting for it?

That's fine. I wasn't here, but I read the I need a motion, please. I think I have one. Second. I have a first and a second. All in favor? Motion carries 4 zero. Uh, new business consideration and action to approve the Steumman Ranch sub. I guess what do you want to do about that? Take no action. Wait, this was the right. We're not going to take We're not going to take action on any of it. A, B, or B or right? So, do I need to go do I need to list them individually? So, actually B is something separate. I know. I know. But A A you take no action. Okay. Do I still need to read it?

No.

Okay. We'll moving we'll move on to B. consideration action to approve the Arborfields unit 1 preliminary subdivision plat of 37 uh50 acres of land within the city of Floresville SNJ Arocha grant abstract number one Wilson County, Texas and being the land described in a conveyance to Flowback Limited in the deed of record document number 2022-11669 of the official public record of Wilson you go ahead and explain what this I don't know if y'all are familiar but this is the um the property that's north past uh Loi Grove past um the daddy

so Arbor Fields is wanting to develop phase one unit one it's a 3750 acre lot out of the 123 acre lot they're planning to do Um they they platted 159 lots and I'll read those lots real quick and I got with the engineer today. There 154 is residential. Three of them are for detention. There's one park a lot for the park and the rest are open space green spaces. Your lots they're typically I don't know if you saw the plaque it's 40 by 120. The frontage is 40. Depth is 120. 4,800 square footage of lot

45 by 120. Yes. Um we received no objections from texttop belts our um Oak Hills

our fire marshall. Yes. Um we do have um studies for the sewer. It does need capacity. Um there is a few items that have been redlined that came back from our engineer that was re that was um approve u looking it over. Um they sent it back to our to their engineer. They're working on answering those comments. They are going to work they're going to answer those comments. Um they're asking though if those comments they probably won't be able to complete it until by the council meeting. So, is it really in our in the best interest for us to make a

I believe because I spoke to the educator and I'm not sure if they're here, right? Okay. If you want to come forward, she can explain. Yeah. I was going to ask for for this is the engineer from Arbor Fields. Okay.

Good evening. uh Ryan Pens of Upper Company for the engineering firm preparing the suburing subdivision. Um I don't I don't have the the letter from Intrepid Engineering with me. Um but I did go through just about all the comments um with Cindy earlier today. There are a few of them that I wanted to reach out to the reviewing engineer on um because they were more geared towards the final plat versus the preliminary plat. Um so and then there was guess discrepancies with some line um labeling they requested that's usually more um the surveyor has a preference of how things are labeled. It's not so much on the engineering side and it doesn't affect the square footage of the lots or the layout of the plaque. Um and then the other comments were regarding the storm water report. We're proposing three detention bonds to mitigate the runoff. um mostly towards uh two towards text to the west and then one to the south towards um the RV park.

Oh yeah, that eagle's nest.

Um so we did have three detention ponds proposed um and the engineers uh request was to add the effective FEMA date to the report. It's on the exhibit we provide them, but it's not specifically listed out in our report verbage. So, we're adding that. Um, there were um drainage for drainage areas that he asked us to take a look at. So, we've confirmed that there was just a a scriber error on the um concentrations. So, they are not changing from existing to proposed. Um so we've clarified that and then I think you wanted a statement listed in the report which was in there. Um but we do need to modify one other subsequent statement after that. But other than that I believe there's no that I'm aware there's no design concerns. um there's no uh fatal flaws so to speak and the city will get to review it again when we go in for final plat. So it's you don't know how many lots there's going to be or did you say

it's 1547

they have 11 by 17 it is So missing. So where's the entrance to this room? Yeah.

Is there only one entrance or there's one entrance and then we have a second right next to that older commercial. What size are the roads? right at 60 ft and then the road is 30

and does that river. So our fire marshall review the all those lanes in the turnarounds. He says that he has no objection going this I don't know who's going to service it because they're doing this out there further out in the county and it is not wide enough for emergency vehicles. I just know that the fire marshal Carl founder he reviewed it and he had no objections. We we did make the turn these larger.

And what about for buses? Right now riverbank can get buses into those communities. How many assume two to four kids in each one of those homes?

So the collector Are you involved with that? Are you with LAR? I am not. Okay. Because Lamar needs to make the people who buy these homes aware because what happens is the parents get really angry with the school district because the bus cannot get back there to pick up their kids

and so they have to bring their kids. Everybody goes to San Antonio to work. Okay. They can't always be here for the kids to be picked up from the bus and that makes it difficult. Right.

Would they be a lot of trucks that park and outside of their driveways? That's why we went That's why we have only one car. So,

it was at 5. So the 20 foot set back and that's from the right. So you have about 12b and then another

bike this road and only one entrance. They do have a safety one. I mean that there is an emergency. So, but that means the residents can't use it. It's only for Is there plans to also capture these pieces of land too? Because it looks like you're expecting that. This was these were provided as part of the land use. So they asked for they were going to buy this. They were gonna buy this too.

As far as I know, this is all they still

is. Did it transfer? It was already

reminds us. Thank you so much. Here we go. around the detention ponds. Is there planning on gating to uh protect kids from getting in it? Will that be maintained by HOA or

Yes. And the park that y'all are proposing, would that be city park or a HOA pay for park? I believe it would be a city park, but it's the HOA. So, I've heard city parks at Riverbend that the HOA has to pay for the electric, the sewer, the maintenance, the um I believe so they're putting right now they don't have any uh concrete plants for the park because there's a home there and some really nice trees that they're going to preserve for now. They just don't know if they're going to use it as a transform the home into some type of amenity building. Um but they yes the HOA would be maintaining structures.

Is it going to be a mandatory HOA? Yes it would be. So how many we use that will pay for these common area that's for a classification school district.

Any more comments? Okay. Do you all have any more questions? Okay. Thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate it.

Okay. So, I will need a motion on this.

I agree with you. Um, do we need to give our reasons for deciding? No. I make a motion um to to decline, please. I second that. Have a motion to decline uh in a second. All in favor to decline. All in favor to approve. Uh okay. Uh so it's 31 against three against one to four. Uh consideration and action to approve an amendment to the Take no

no action. Sorry. And then no action on D either. Consideration and action on a request to reszone a 5.801 acre tract of land located at 964 US Highway 181 North from R1 single family residential to C commercial. Uh is there any citizens comments? I will entertain a motion. We all don't have any questions. That's the property that is on the corner. Yeah. I I motion to approve.

Okay. I have a motion to approve and a second. All in favor? I. Motion carries. Um F. Consideration and action on a request for a special use permit to allow a manufactured home on a 26 acre tract of land located at 7814th Street. Um, do you want to go ahead and give us um an explanation for this? Yeah. Again, the applic It's the same one. Yes. Okay. Sorry about that. That's okay. Uh, there's no Is there any citizens comment at this time?

Okay. I have a motion to a second. All in favor? Vote is 404. Um G consideration and action on a request for a special use permit to allow manufactured home on a 050 acre tractive land located at603 F Street. There's any citizens comment. I have a motion to approve a second. All in favor?

Motion carries. Four four zero against eight. Consideration action on an ordinance amending the city of Floresville's code to of ordinances. Title XB land usage amending chapter 153 zoning modifying the regulations for manufactured homes, manufactured home parks and mobile homes within the city. Anyone? We have John James um who's going to explain um because we've got some changes coming up for the new laws that are going to be effective by September of next year. John, are you there? Barely barely hear you. Hang on.

No, you're still kind of Hang on. We'll get We'll get it. Okay, go ahead and talk.

Not very well. Not very well. Is it us? It might be your mic. Okay. Can you hear me now? Yeah, a little bit lower. Thank you. Try again. Little bit. All right, one more try. Can you hear me? Maybe go down to like 30. Okay, try it again. Turn down to 30. 30. Go down to 30. Testing. One, two, three. Can you hear me? I can hear you very loudly now. Perfect. Thank you.

Okay, good. Well, um, again, my name is John James. I'm with Rampage Law. Um, and we've been working on some updates to the manufactured home ordinance for a little while now. In the middle of us doing that, the uh, state legislature met and they changed some of the rules regarding manufactured homes. So, um, we had to make some additional changes to what we had originally proposed. Um, basically the two main things that the legislature did was they required all cities to allow manufactured homes in at least one zoning district. And the second piece is that you cannot require a discretionary approval like you just did with those SUPs. Um, moving forward, you you won't be able to uh require a manufactured home to come through an SUP process. you have to have a zoning district where those are allowed just by ride. And so that's one thing that this draft ordinance does is it basically creates a new zoning district. We called it R1A. It's basically the R1 zoning district, but it also allows manufactured homes in addition to regular single family homes. Um, if this ordinance gets approved, it will not reszone any properties. So there won't be any areas where manufactured homes will be allowed until we come back and define some areas of the community where this new zoning district will apply. So this is basically creating the rules. We'll have to come back and actually reszone some property to this new district. Um the second district that this creates is a manufactured home park district. So, we're distinguishing between manufactured homes on a single family home lot as being different from manufactured homes inside a manufactured home park. Uh, and so that will be another new district that's created. But

similarly, this won't apply to any particular property until we come back with an actual reszoning case. Uh, this ordinance does also establish some rules for manufactured home parks. Uh, it takes some of your existing rules and incorporates them. Uh but then it does make a few changes uh to those uh things like setbacks and lot sizes within a manufactured home park. It updates those standards. Um one other thing that this ordinance does is it it adds a provision that ensures compliance with a recent change in state law that basically requires you to allow the replacement of a manufactured home. So, if if somebody has an old mobile home or old manufactured home and they want to replace it, the state law says you have to allow them to replace it at least once with the newer manufactured home. And so, we've incorporated that state provision into this ordinance as well. Um, I know there's there's a little bit more to this, but that's kind of the basic overview of what this ordinance does. Um, but I guess at this point I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have any questions about the details.

Yes, I have a question. Um, does it change um does it does it change uh based on age acceptance? No, it does not. As I understand it, your the current ordinance requires any new placement of manufactured home to be a home that's no older than 5 years. We've kept that same stipulation in this ordinance. Um, and so it it does not change that South number 11.

I did see that there's a new separation between the homes from 25 ft currently to 30 ft. Is that based on the city recommendation or is that the new Texas law?

That's not based on the state law. So, you could keep it at what it is currently. Uh we just typically see that 30 ft is kind of a a typical standard that we see. Uh but all of those standards that were um summarized there, none of those are in the state law. Those are just uh some common standards that we see. But you could recommend keeping any of those that you want to keep the way they are today. Uh we could change those back to what the current standards are if that's your your desire.

In that under section 12, you have minimum area per lot that currently is at 1500 square feet and moving to 3,000 square feet. Um the ones we just approved, how many square feet were those lots? Um I mean that's double the size. Uh so would this by changing that keep people from both lots are very generous. They're very generous lots. But by making that type of change because currently it's 1500 foot. Would we limit homeowners being able to put a manufactured home? Well, so currently

our lot requirement right now is actually 7500 square feet of lot in our orbit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I would add under under that 12 that only applies to the lots or what you might call spaces within a manufactured home park. That doesn't apply to just a standalone single family lot. Okay. Thank you.

Um I have a clarification question for you. Uh Mr. James, I I've read through this two or three times and I maybe I'm missing something. Currently, uh to allow a mobile home into a residential area, um we have the special use uh zoning request. This new law, which does not go into effect until September 26, um it says you've got a single family residential manufactured home district and so and then you've got mobile home manufacturing home park district. So, nothing really changed, right? We're just It's just that zoning designation changed. So, people are still going to be able to come to the board requesting to put in a mobile home where currently brick and mortar homes are built. Correct.

That's right. It would just be a reszoning process instead of a special use permit process. Uh but the the other benefit of that is if there are areas of town where the city thinks manufactured homes are just okay to go in those areas, you wouldn't have to have each person come in individually and request it. The city could proactively zone some of those areas to this new district. I see. Uh again, if there were particular areas that you thought that was appropriate. I see. Okay. Thank you. more questions for John. Thank you, John.

Thank you. So, just to answer your question, the one on Fourth Street, that's 11,000 square foot lot. And the other one, it's 218 by 100. So, that's pretty generous, too. About 12,000. And what is our our goal today? to approve section each section or just to approve as is. Um well like John has here the summary of proposed changes. So what we have here is that correct John? Well yeah you should have um modify

hopefully there is there was the summary of proposed changes but there was also the actual ordinance draft. So, um, assuming you have that actual ordinance draft, you could make a recommendation on the ordinance tonight and send it on to city council where they would consider it for for adoption as an ordinance amendment. Understanding that we can't make the changes till September 26. Exactly. Well, let me let me clarify that you you don't have to wait until September of 26 to do this. You just have to have it done by then in order to be compliant with it can go into effect earlier.

Yes. If you wanted to if the council decided to do that, correct? Yes, that's right. And would the council set that date? So, somebody was already in the works and had a a 750 foot lot that they're wanting to put a home on. Are we going is this going to be well communicated to our community? So, if somebody is in the works of doing this and then the city says we're doing this January 1st, how will that affect those homeowners? Well, if they were to come up to us and say we want to put a home in a 750T lot, we would tell them they could. But even if we the proposed is a 3,000 square foot That's for a manufactur cart. Okay. I keep forgetting if it's a lot it'll look the semicoot.

Yeah. If it was lock and we would notify the public this is going to go into effect at this time. It doesn't give you we need to do it by next year but we would send notices out that it's going to be changed but we still need to make up a map first before we're going. You don't have a business map. are very mixed with manufacturing homes and houses on the same street. So, we need to really go through thorough which ones are going to have it, which ones aren't going to have it. You know, the obvious reasons would try to do if a street is 90% homes, it's going to probably not be allowed there. That's just it out there. That's how we look at some of the things.

That's great. Thank you for the clarification. Okay, I have a motion to approve and a second.

Yes. All in favor? And with that, we are. Thank you everybody. support, right?