Commission - Regular Meeting

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Welcome all of our guests that are here tonight and come back at any opportunity that you might have. For the commissioners that are here, I'm not sure about the audience, but Commissioner Evans said up on the back table were tomatoes. Don't forget those on your way out. I did get a notice from Billy Joe that said charter internet was down tonight or charter cable, so it would not be broadcasted until they got it fixed, but it's on the charter side. And in the very back, on the back commission panel back there, they read the Declaration of Independence here on July the 4th that morning, and the crowd that was here all signed that. They asked me to get you to sign it if you'd like to sign it, and then we'll pass it around to the other three city governments, and then we're going to frame it and put it out here in the hallway. So if you think about it tonight before you leave, please sign that. This time I'll turn it over to Commissioner Breeze for the prayer and pledge.

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to invite my minister, Jeff Strezoff, from Grace Methodist, up to the podium for the prayer. And then Craig Anderson is going to join us from the Sheriff's Department to lead the pledge.

Please rise.

Let's pray. Gracious and loving God, I come before you today grateful, grateful for this community that I've had the privilege of serving for these past 12 years and grateful for the men and women who give of their time to lead it well. Lord, we ask for your wisdom over this meeting tonight. Give clarity where the choices are hard. Patience where opinions differ. And humility to all of us in this room. Help us remember that public service at its best is an act of love for one's neighbor. We lift up the people of Wilson County. The families, the workers, the children growing up here. and those who are struggling and need this body's care the most. May the decisions made in this room this day reflect fairness, integrity, and a genuine desire to do right by all. Thank you for calling each of us in our different roles to serve something larger than ourselves. We ask your blessing on this meeting and on this county. We pray all of this in your most holy and precious name. Amen. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you both. Thank you, Commissioner Breeze. This time, if you will, press yes on your panel to record your presence in tonight's meeting. I know Commissioner Scruggs and Ms. Bowman and Commissioner Smith are not here tonight. They all called. Bowman is not here tonight.

Twenty-two present.

Twenty-two present, three absent. Okay. At this time, we don't see any special recognition to my mind, so we'll go to public comment. This will be public comment period. I know there are some that signed this that may be going to speak during the rezoning, so if you're going to speak during the rezoning, you can just wave me off, and when we have the public comment period for rezoning, then you can come at that time. The first one will be Mr. Sean Davis.

Hello everyone. So I come here tonight to address the issue I've been dealing with for about a year. I'm gonna try to make it quick. So being a neighbor, anyone here, how would you feel if a business or bar expanded parking 25 feet from your bedroom wall? So that's what's happened to me. So I'm gonna start out with, over the past year, I spent countless hours researching public records, reviewing zoning permits, meeting minutes, and records from various state agencies. Through the research, I've identified several questions, I believe, for further review from county officials. Those questions include whether the property's current operation is consistent with zoning status legally, and that's backed by facts. Board of Zoning appeals hearings from 1977 further to give it standing, supposedly give it standing. I'm asking this commission to not determine guilt or innocence, but something much simpler is to apply the law, to put pressure on certain ones and make sure we do what's right. Like any business or any house, you're obligated to certain standards and zoning rules and stuff like that. And everybody here that's a homeowner understands that. We hear zoning all the time in the county. But, you know, until you live it, you don't see it. I filed former complaints with TDEC regarding an issue that I believe I have very good evidence backs that we have contamination, ground contamination going on for a business for at least 20 years that I can find. There goes again another business not held accountable with sewage, kitchen waste, and everything else. The same very business has expanded parking over all their solar area. So their solar area now that supposedly is there is not there. There's a lot of questions about it. TDEC has no record of a septic system ever existing plan. So I've been working with the mayor. So hopefully we have another meeting Thursday. We get some kind of feedback. But to go on the record, I've been doing this for a year. So I'm asking everybody to kind of look at the historical data on it to see what was approved. The property is zoned agriculture. It was supposedly approved under non-conforming use in 2008. The problem is it was never approved to operate until 2008. So my question is, was the law applied correctly in letting it have a grandfather status when it was never legally to operate to start with? So with that being said, I just want everybody to keep in mind the address. The property is located on Carthage Highway in Mr. Dowell's district. The property has been operated. It's AJ's Bar and Grill. Throw it out there. If you go back and look at historical data of what the property was approved for versus what it is now, it will really just set you back to see how we have no oversight. And they can continue to expand a parking lot for about an acre and remove the soil and compress the dirt and put more. And I live next door. And 20 years ago when I moved here, it was a small 30 by 30 building with actually about 30 people. So now we have a capacity of 100 with parking for 300 with no working sanitary system. And TDEC will not do the job and go open the tank and look and verify it because they have no record of what it is.

Mr. Shaw, it is your time, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Mr. Ken Young.

Ken Young 1221 Shop Springs Rd. It is time to consider selecting a water authority board member. Will the authorities nominating committee recommend someone to the mayor? Of course not. The authority board has no nominating committee or working committees of any kind. In September 2024, without his board's knowledge, the authority's executive director walked in here and said to you effectively, I want this incumbent to supervise me. You said no. In September 2025, another incumbent was recommended. You said no. A month later, you said no again. This September, there's a good chance the Executive Director will tell the Mayor, I want another incumbent, Jeff Joines, to supervise me. Say no. Because Jeff Joines knew, or should have known, about the malfeasance. He had 10 years to stop it, but didn't. Mr. Joins, the chairman, and the vice chairman comprised a voting majority for the last decade. The executive director needs his incumbents. Why? We just found out they never reviewed his job performance. He was unsupervised for 20 years. And unlike other utilities whose executives serve at the pleasure of their board, our executive enjoys a five-year contract. Who recommended the contract? The same person who created the Adenis monopoly. That was a sweet deal for the executive and for Adenis, but they got caught and that sweet deal is over. It's not over because of the pipeline ripoff at the school or the federal lawsuits, the fines, the wasted grants, or furious customers. No, it's because the new state law is going to choke Wilson County builders, bankers, and realtors. This is the last straw. For this body and anyone listening, you have two months. Ask Mr. Jones why this law was passed in the first place. Specifically, how is it going to affect the county? And ask him why all this happened on his watch. Again, we don't have a water problem. We have a transparency and an accountability problem. The solution is complete transparency and swift accountability. The public has a right to know. And when their trust is broken, there must be consequences. Thankfully, this brighter future is possible, and this brighter day depends on you continuing to replace the incumbents. You made the right decision in 2024 and in 2025, and I think you'll make the right decision in 2026. I will answer any question. Thank you, sir.

Mr. Derek Dotson.

Derek Dotson, 106 Chapman Drive. Last Friday, I experienced an ugly side of Wilson County government, and since y'all are soon going to have the very same experience, I'm here to provide you with intel. Here's how the story begins. While attending a few Planning Commission meetings, I noted an agenda item regarding rural residential development that I did not like, but I said nothing. Eventually, that development project was approved by this body. Having attended the last two Planning Commission meetings, I learned that the monster has come back, but even uglier than the original plan. June the 17th, the landowner, having been the pretend developer, he publicly said that he intended to flip the project to a real developer. The 700 raw acres are in the middle of nowhere and adjacent to the river, yet is zoned R1. 406 of the acreage is known as the Cumberland Oaks Project. or in the future an average of 6.3 units per acre. But that wasn't enough high density in the middle of nowhere. At the June Planning Commission meeting, the landowner asked for 125 more housing units from 435 to 560 and also 60 fewer acres of open space. At the June 17th Planning Commission meeting, the landowner requested instead 537 rather than the 560. But your PUD regs allow for 700 units in clusters in the middle of nowhere. The out in the middle of nowhere land owner's request was based on that the county's PUD regs have changed, meaning that your PUD regs are now far worse than to begin with. So now requested seven plus units an acre in the middle of nowhere, while the public hears the mantra of R1 zone raw land potentially becoming one acre lots. If you do the ballpark Board of Education math via a completed Cumberland Oaks project, the cost of teachers needed would alone outweigh the annual future incoming property tax. Because a 537 house development in the middle of nowhere requires near 50 acres of sewage treated drip fields, 50 acres, I suggest the name Cumberland Oaks be changed to Pudu acres, rural living estates. To most of y'all who blocked data centers on 1,400 acres in Tucker's Crossroads, thank you.

Mr. Chris, sorry.

I've been trying to get y'all to realize some transparency issues for a while, and three minutes at a time just ain't getting it done. I've talked to a lot of you about it, and I decided, okay, let's just go to the public comment and start speaking, and I did that, and then at one meeting, it was just kind of dismissed, but last month, or two weeks ago, the steering committee, I spoke, and I Let me rephrase that. The mayor spoke. The mayor spoke about some issues and then the minutes softened that down so much that you wouldn't even think that that's what was said. The minutes say that there was some different opinion on CTAS land use steering plan. CTAS very clearly said that it should have been public notice and open meetings as normal. There's no ambiguity there. The bigger issue is that the county attorney and the planning director emailed CTAS. The planning director emailed CTAS back in March. The county attorney was aware and the planning director had a conversation with the county attorneys, my understanding, after that. Not a one of y'all heard from him on that. The chairman of that committee didn't either. And then we got the school board voting by email. You can say whatever you want. You can look at the meeting. There's no vote taken. And we got a county attorney who's defending no vote taken. We're literally, there's no vote. It was emailed. And then you got the ethics screening committee. And at the Ethics Screening Committee that the school board had, I contacted the Open Records Council and they wrote a big long letter. And apparently it didn't take because three years later and then your packet last month, I guess, was the letter from the comptroller and the minutes from your own meeting three years later. He knew later. And the difference is he's a voting member here and that's kind of changed and y'all are going to do those publicly now, but you knew. What's worse than that is, I thought, let's just see what those complaints were. So I put in a public records request for the complaints themselves. No records exist. So any complaint that was made, not only was it not heard in public, it's been thrown away. You're only as transparent as your attorney's gonna let you be. And if anybody looks at that committee meeting from last week and reads those minutes and says that they're the same, you're just not being realistic.

I have down Brian Keith, but I'm assuming that's the rezoning. I know Mr. Dyes, yours is rezoning. And Michael Swope, yours is rezoning, correct? Anyone here else wishing to speak before the come forward, ma'am?

Hello, I'm Kim Prezeller. I live on Horn Springs Road here in Lebanon. Good evening, I'm here to talk about the resolution before you tonight regarding data centers and high density computing facilities. I think a temporary moratorium is a great idea. It gives the county time to understand the risks, study best practices, and adopt safeguards before we get too far to turn back. But I also understand a moratorium could face legal challenges, so I would encourage our local officials to take care in how it's drafted and applied so developers can't question the legal footing. It's an established fact that data centers can bring around the clock noise, heavy demands on electricity, wastewater concerns, and fuel storage for backup generators. These are all very real concerns for the neighbors who live nearby. I believe the plan is to start with the county's light industrial zoning rules, but they weren't written with massive data centers in mind. For example, the county regulates construction noise associated with a building permit, but the current light industrial zoning ordinance doesn't establish a decibel limit for the ongoing operation of those businesses. So data centers can operate cooling equipment, fans, transformers, and other machinery 24 hours a day. That's all going to be noisy. Wastewater requirements can also vary considerably. Sampling, testing, and reporting depend on what is discharged and where it goes. Those questions should be answered before a site is approved, not after the operations begin. I support forming a committee with access to real technical expertise. In fact, I'd ask the Commission to consider adding more members with experience in data center construction and operation in addition to the two public members because of the technical nature of the risks involved. But ultimately, all committee members should be selected through a transparent process based on qualifications with clear disclosure of any ties to developers, data center operators, utilities, consultants, lobbyists, or any other interested parties. This must also apply to members selected from the local governing bodies. The public must be confident that the committee's work is independent and serves Wilson County, not political or private interests. Putting data centers on pause protects residents, gives developers clear expectations, and allows the county to make decisions based on facts rather than reacting after problems arise. Thank you for hearing me out. I appreciate your time.

Good evening, Mayor Hutto. Thank you for having thick skin. Please entertain me for a moment. Dan Hodge has been Green Road while I share a hypothetical. Imagine I'm publicly endorsing you as mayor, as an active member of the planning committee. Your opponent goes to rezone their property from residential to industrial. And I say, you know what, I don't think she should be allowed to do that because she supports abortion. She might have an abortion on that facility or she might put up a bunch of flock cameras. Now that would be an egregious abuse of power as the planning committee member to do that simply to attack your political ally. I believe that happened and I believe that you should pursue disciplinary measures against Terry Ashford doing that on the planning committee. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anyone else?

Seeing none, we'll close public comment period and we'll move forward.

Report from the Steering Committee. Commissioner Fields. Yes, Mr. Mayor. The Steering Committee made it a regular session on Thursday, July the 9th in the upstairs conference room. There's a copy of those minutes in your packet. I move that they be received and filed.

Second.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Adoption of the agenda. Yes, Mr. Fair, we do have a consent agenda. It's resolution 26-7-1. It's reducing the speed limit on Leanna Lane from 35 miles an hour to 25 miles an hour. Let's adopt the agenda first.

Oh.

And then we'll do consent agenda. That's okay. I got ahead of myself. That's all right. No worries. Everyone has a copy of the agenda. Without any alterations, I move that that agenda be adopted. Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Now, Commissioner Fields. All right. Now, we'll go again. We do have a consent agenda. It is Resolution 26-7-1. It is reducing the speed limit on Leanna Lane from 35 miles an hour to 25 miles an hour. I move that our resolution be approved. Thank you. Any discussion?

Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you, sir. At this time, we'll have Christopher Lawless come forward. Do I do that before we hear it? I have a motion to go out of session. Second? All in favor say aye.

um to all those concerned a public hearing will be held before the wilson county commission on monday july 20th 2026 at 7 pm or thereafter in the county commission room of wilson county courthouse located at 228 east main street Items for consideration under the public hearing would be an application made by Jerry and Lisa Dyes requesting to rezone property from A1 Agricultural to R1 Rural Residential. The property contains approximately 10.01 acres and is located at 3893 and 3895 Coles Ferry Pike. and as further references parcel 7.02 on wilson county tax map 45. second application for rezoning has been made by michael swope requesting to rezone property from a1 agricultural to a2 agricultural preservation district this property contains approximately 108.8 acres and is located at 2021 boba road this further reference is parcel 2 on wilson county tax map 89. Separate from rezonings, there are two resolutions. The first one is the adoption for the purpose of amending the Wilson County Zoning Resolution regarding points of measurements when determining building height for primary and accessory structures. And the second is the resolution amending the regulating, amending, amen, uh. Amending. Amendments to regulating accessory detached dwelling units and how they are defined within the Wilson County zoning ordinance. A copy of these rezoning requests and these resolutions have been on file in the Wilson County Planning Office and available for viewing during regular business hours.

Anyone here wishing to speak on any four of these issues, it would be this time for you to step forward. State your name and address for the record.

I'm Randy Dyes. I'm the property owner for 3893 and 3895 Coast Free Pike. I live at 3895. I'm requesting it be rezoned from A1 to R1, which will allow me to cut off. It's one acre and nine acres now, and this will allow me to cut off just under a two-acre lot, and that will allow me to have my son and daughter there on the property with me.

Thank you, sir. Anyone else wishing to speak on either one of these properties or not, or the zoning ordinances that we're voting on?

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners Brian Keith, K&A Servan, 726 Park Avenue. I just want to add a couple things to what Mr. Dyes just mentioned. This property, if you can go back to that yes this property already has a one acre track on it and is surrounded by a lot of r1 already as far as the lot sizes we didn't i just want to add that we don't feel like this is infringing on any other anybody else's property by creating this additional lot and Wilson County is a family-oriented county, so having your children on the same property is a heartfelt issue for me, so I think it is for a lot of you guys, too. Thank you, Mr. Keith. Mr. Swope?

Michael Swope, 2021 Bobo Road. In the November County Commissioner meeting, there was a commissioner that said that if you want to preserve rural and agricultural space, why don't you just rezone your land? And I thought, that's actually not a terrible idea. So I decided to start that process. I now understand why you might not want to do that between some of the attacks I've endured and the cost, the financial cost. But still, I feel like it's important to lead from the front on this issue. Protecting our rural and agricultural spaces needs to be more of an important issue that we highlight. And if I can lead from the front and devalue my own land in doing that, I'm more than happy to do that. I'd appreciate your vote. and getting it down zone today. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Anyone else on these two ordinances or the two properties? Seeing none, we'll close public comment period. I had a motion to go back into session. Second? All in favor say aye. Christopher?

again wilson county commissioners the first application before you is the coles ferry pike application has been made by jerry and lisa dyes again to rezone this property from a1 agricultural to r1 rural residential property contains approximately 10.01 acres and is located at 3893 and 3895 coles ferry pike is further referenced as parcel 7.02 on wilson county tax map 45. this rezoning request was presented to the wilson county planning commission on friday may 22nd 2026 and is being forwarded to the wilson county commission with the unanimous positive recommendation make a motion to approve commissioner glover it's your district

I've known the Dias for almost my whole life. Really good people. I wish I would have had acreage when I was younger to be able to give up to my kids. So I've had no complaints. I've nobody reached out to me. So I approve it. I approve and I hope each one of y'all will approve it also.

I got a motion there from Mr. Glover. You're a second? Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you, sir.

second rezoning is the application made by michael swope requesting to rezone property from a1 agricultural to a2 agricultural preservation this property is approximately 108.8 acres and is located at 2021 bobo road further reference is parcel 2 wilson county tax map 89. this rezoning request was presented to the wilson county planning commission on wednesday june 17th 2026 and is being forwarded to the wilson county commission with a positive recommendation of 8, 4, and 1 abstain.

Do I hear a motion? Commissioner Scruggs is not here with us tonight. That's in his zone. Do I hear a motion? Motion approved. Do I hear a motion? Do I hear a second? Second. Any discussion by anybody?

I have a question.

Yes.

Christopher, how many houses can be built on this property right now? There's one on it, right?

There's one home built on this property. This property is unique. It is landlocked, so it would only allow for one home unless road frontage is obtained elsewhere. But if they're able to obtain road frontage, that would allow 44 homes. The new existing zoning would cut it down to 20 homes. That is a big if they can obtain road frontage.

Okay, so if we rezone this, if we do, then how many can be built then? Same number?

Without the road frontage, it would still be locked in at one. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Thank you.

Any other questions or comments? Ready to vote? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Let the record reflect it was unanimous. We'll do the resolutions now while we're here. We had the public hearing on. We can do that, can't we?

We'll wait. Hang around. Okay.

We'll hear those later. Okay.

Report from the Minutes Committee. Yes, Mr. Mayor. The Minutes Committee met in regular session on Thursday, July the 9th in the upstairs conference room. A copy of those minutes are in your packet. I move that they be received and filed. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye.

Reading of the Minutes. Second.

Discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Communication from the chair. At this time, I'd ask Mr. Randall Clements to come forward.

Nope. After this.

Further up.

we deeply thank you tonight for allowing us to come and share about the wilson county tennessee state fair this is the 47th year that you've allowed us at your commission meeting before the fair to come and do this and and for us to thank you for your support we realized that we would not be where we are today we would not have a fair if it was not for the wilson county commission wilson county government and all of the different departments of wilson county government that support the fair in a great way We are excited about this fair on August the 13th through the 22nd. It's going to be the year of forestry and you're going to see a lot of new things as the Tennessee Department of Forestry brings to our fair. Our theme is Tennessee Voices of Volunteers. celebrating America 250. We were asked by Governor Lee last year to begin the celebration in Tennessee at the Tennessee State Fair and that we would go through this year with that celebration and we are carrying that part out. Our fair has happened these 47 years because of volunteers. We have 3,388 volunteers that gave 131,722 hours last year. Our exhibits and entries continue to grow. You can see the numbers there, the premiums that we paid, the sponsors, concessions, and the different things that make up our fair. After we became the Tennessee State Fair, it has allowed us to be the fair for our entire state for 4-H and FFA. And you'll see the number of entries there that have come from across our state. We still believe that agriculture is our focus. We want it to be a learning center for agriculture, and we had some 158 livestock shows last year for 6,404 entries. As we talk about America 250, we are honored that we're going to be able to have the Freedom Truck to be here in Lebanon and Wilson County for 10 days during the fair that tells the story of America. And we are very honored that that was able to happen at the fair. And it's something that each of you will want to come out and see. You will see there a stump of a tree that died up in Fiddler's Grove that has been transformed into a wonderful carving for America 250 in Fiddler's Grove. As you look at the year of forestry, you see the number of different things that will occur that the Tennessee Department of Agriculture is doing, and we are very excited about those that will be occurring on different parts of our fairground during the time. We will begin on Thursday the 13th at 6 o'clock with our opening ceremony for the Wilson County Tennessee State Fair for the celebration of America 250. And there will be a parade to follow it with our leaders from across the state coming to be part of that as we begin that. We're glad this year to have two wonderful concerts. On Sunday night, we will have Linda Davis and Raylan. We'll be doing on Monday night, the 17th, and those are being made possible by Bates Ford, which we deeply appreciate. Pick Tennessee Products has been a major part of our fair for the last few years. And it will continue to be this year. They're right in the center of the fairgrounds as it focuses on agriculture, on education. It has the sprout and stroll Tennessee specialty crops that is outside. And they will be giving away milk every day and will be giving away other products each night with demonstrations as well. Motorsports continue to be a major draw for us. You'll see the truck and tractor pulls and the bump and run and four-wheeler rodeos and monster trucks as we try to take our motorsports to another level. We are very thankful for what you have been able to make possible by the livestock area that we have and we have over 150 shows that will be occurring there this year and going to be a great time in livestock as people come from across the state to compete in the livestock area. We're very fortunate to have Reithofer shows with us again. They're one of the largest carnivals in America, one of the oldest carnivals going back to 1896. They're already there putting up rides which began yesterday and you'll see our sky ride continue to be featured as it's a great way to see our entire fairgrounds. People ask what makes the Wilson County Tennessee State Fair different and one of those is Fiddler's Grove. With the 30 demonstrators that will be there, some 65 buildings that's there, people will be dressed in costume and we will be telling the story of times past there in Fiddler's Grove during the fair. We committed to you when we took on the Tennessee State Fair that the Wilson County Fair part would not change, and we are held to our word on that. And all of the things that occur in the Expo Center continue to be Wilson County. So you'll see our pageants and our exhibits that will continue to be there, and our Scoob exhibits from across our county will be in our East-West building. As we look at what the Wilson County Tennessee State Fair has added to Wilson County, we've had over $14 million in capital improvements, major road improvements. The federal funding we have for Peyton Road is in process. It's not moved as fast as we had hoped, but our goal is that the city of Lebanon will help make that possible with the state of Tennessee by next year's fair. There is $4 million plus the state matching two that is in hand there to make that happen. We have seen a great unification of the state as we have focused on all 95 counties and showcasing all 95 counties in the Made in Tennessee building and we will continue to do that and all 95 counties will have a booth there showcasing their county. Our sponsorships have been able to increase with us being the Tennessee State Fair because some major companies can now do a sponsorship where they were afraid to before because they would have had to have done it for each county fair in the state. It is an additional opportunity to enhance our fair, continue growing the Wilson County Fair and showcasing Wilson County. We remain an agricultural fair. It is the number one industry in Tennessee, and we continue to focus on that. We have people coming from all 50 states to the fair, as well as some 34 countries last year. So it continues to be a major tourist draw for Tennessee and for Lebanon. We have some new things going on there and you have a picture here of a new building that will be done for this year's fair. This was made possible by a $1,980,000 CCF grant. This building is going to contain three different things, a new first aid, new restrooms and meeting space with Wi-Fi throughout the grounds. This is something major that the James E. Ward Ag Center will benefit year-round and that we are completing right now Wi-Fi that will be strong, that can handle the crowds that are there and that we have needed for a long, long time. We continue to need more entrances into the fair and we have tried for some time to be able to get a strip of land that would take us out to Bluebird Road and you have a picture there where that road is now being graveled and it will be open for the fair and what it will be used for is taking livestock trailers from the livestock area out to Bluebird Road as an exit is how it is beginning. Because we have people that gets with a livestock trailer. They can't get out. They've got their animals in the trailer and it causes problems. So we're very thankful that we've been able to do that from that. Next is things that are new. We're calling Freedom Way, which will be the road all the way across the fairgrounds, and there will be different America 250 things occurring there. Our new lumberjack show, the Speed Meets Heat, and Rocket the Robot is some things that will be new for this year's fair. Along the Freedom Way, there will be things like The Army will have a booth set up, the Coast Guard, and different things of that nature that goes along with our government and with the history of America 250. Again, we thank you for your support so much. And if we can do anything for any of you, please let us know.

Hey, Mr. Randall, I got a question. You said the gates is going to be open. Are they going to use that access coming out on Bluebird? How many nights will they be using that access with the cattle trailers and stuff?

Well, it'll probably be used every night, Chris, but the major ones are on the weekends, and that's where the major problem is. When Tennessee Boulevard gets closed down and you can't get out of the fairgrounds and somebody is there with a load of cattle, they need a way to get out, so that'll be our move.

Will there be somebody at that gate to direct them?

There'll be somebody out on Bluebird Road not letting anybody in and directing those that come out. Okay. All right, thank you. We are very concerned about that.

Any other questions? Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you. Mr. Goodall, any additions to be added to the notary list?

We're good.

Do I hear a motion to approve a notary list? I move. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. You have at this time to elect a road commissioner for Zone 1. The eligible candidates are Mr. Jerry McFarland, Ms. Beth Bowman, Mr. Chris Dow, Mr. Rusty Keith, Mr. William Glover, and Mr. Jeremy Rich. This person will serve until July of 2030. The floor is open for nominations. I'd like to nominate Mr. Chris Dow.

I'll take it.

Mr. Dowell. Other nominations?

Move it, B.C. Motion to nomination cease. Okay, okay.

Got a motion to nomination cease in a second. All in favor of electing Mr. Dowell to Zone 1, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That's a record reflected. It was unanimous. Congratulations, Mr. Dowell. Thank you.

Can I ask a question? I'm missing something, I think. Yeah, I question you, but... I guess my question is, and I'm having trouble hearing tonight, so I'll speak out a little bit. The nominations had to come from just seven districts here. Why?

Because that's the zone for the road commission.

This is road commission.

Road commissioner, the road commission. Okay, so you broke up broke up in 4 zones. So it is one for that joke.

Okay, all right. I'm still not so which zone would he be in. We're right next to each other and he's not in my zone.

I think he's in drugs. There's crooks.

What district are you, Commissioner Denton? 20? 20 is in Zone 3. There's 7, 9, 12, 20, 21, and 24. I looked these up today. So they're all grouped together. Yes, sir. Okay. Any other questions? Anybody? Okay. Audit Committee, there's five members that we would like to ask you to confirm the appointment to serve a one-year term. Commissioner Glover, Commissioner Brown, Commissioner Clark, along with Mr. John Lancaster and Ms. Lisa McIntosh.

Motion to approve. Second.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Emergency Management Report Committee, Commissioner Bernard.

No report.

Emergency Management Director Report, Director Cooper. Aye.

Thank you, Mayor County Commission. Good evening. Y'all enjoying the hot summer days. I know we are so we have been very busy, which I enjoy. I feel like that's when we do our best so. Right now we're just under 10,000 calls for the year, so it's increasing quite regularly. We've been involved in different meetings and trainings. Most of that has been with other departments. That's been going really well. Just finished up the NASCAR race and finished up the Indy race. It finished up today. Now we're gearing up for the Wilson County Tennessee State Fair. which is always fun. So outside of that, we're going to look at one of the new engines this week that'll be coming in soon. And then later on, the other three will be coming in together. So looking forward to that. Outside of that, that concludes my report, unless you have any questions.

Got a motion and a second? Mr. Gentry? Mr. Gentry?

I just wanted to ask about our ambulance service. What's the status of our ambulance? Do we have any on order ambulance?

Yes. How many of that is? Yeah, they haven't come in yet. I mean, they're still... Let me think. i want to say three i think it's three three okay yeah it was three and you know um i think the last i was told i'm thinking october you know when they're deployed what what stations are going to be located i do not um i'd have to get with my ems chief to thank you identify those stations yeah

Commissioner Kurtz. Director Cooper, I was over there a couple weeks ago for training and money well spent on that new asphalt and getting rid of the gravel area across the street there and more parking.

Yeah, the maintenance department and mayor's office helped tremendously with that. But yes, I agree. It did need it very badly.

Any other questions for Mr. Cooper? Director Cooper. Seeing none. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you, Director Cooper. Report from the Law Enforcement Committee. Commissioner Kurtz. No report. Sheriff's report. Chief Stafford.

Thank you, Mayor.

Yes, sir. Thank you, commissioners. Reports in your packet. It's summertime, like Director Cooper said, and we are busy. Last month alone, we averaged a little bit over 4,200 calls. They are typical summer month numbers. June 10th through the 12th, we had our camp victory for battling bullying in schools, which is a great success. I want to give a shout out to Commissioner Chandler. Our Project 616 vests have been excellent. We're about 60% of outfitting the entire department with rifle-proof vests, which is going to be a great, great program. um jail census remains around the low 500s roadside trash collections remain in place please let us know if you need anything cleaned up in your district we'll help out we're also busy with the two races and the upcoming fair so but we've got a good handle on all that And that concludes my report.

Any discussion? Any questions? Commissioner Evans?

If somebody wanted to donate to the vest for the SRO's program, how would they go about doing that?

Yeah, so we are coming up probably within the next two weeks, we'll have a poster pushed out to each school. And each parent within that school will have the ability to donate for the SRO. You know, at the rate of a lot of population of a lot of schools, a parent gives $2 or $3 and we won't be long. These vests are around $3,000 apiece. Somebody that didn't have a child going to that school wanted to donate. Absolutely. We'll put that on our social media all across the platforms and be happy to accept any donations. So, like I said, we're a little bit over 60% of the department outfitted right now. Thank you.

Commissioner Gentry. Yes, sir. Do you have body cams? We have body cams now, right?

Yes, sir. We have in-car cameras and body cameras both.

I've had questions about that.

I just want to make sure I didn't lie to people. I want to elaborate on Commissioner Chandler a little bit. These vests were initially offered to his department. He let us know, hey, we've already got them. Would you all be interested? And we jumped all over it. So big, huge help.

Any other questions? Anybody? All right, hear a motion to approve the report. All in favor say aye. Thank you, Chief Stafford. Report from the Education Committee. Commissioner Marlowe.

No report.

Director of Schools Report, Mr. Travis Mayfield.

Alright, good evening. You have a report in your packet. I believe since this is my first one, but I assume they put that in there every time you've got a personnel update. One thing that I want to point out about this list is every one of these people that have been assigned to a new position have been a part of Wilson County Schools in a prior role like Kristen McFarland. She was a believe it was an instructional coach before now being. I'm sorry. Before becoming an assistant principal, Brittany Booer, who's now an assistant principal at Mount Juliet High School, was actually a teacher for me at Wilson Central when I was there. Brooke Neve, she was an instructional coach. Amy Wilkin, the Central Pike Elementary principal, was an assistant principal at Gladeville Middle. LaConda McKinney was an assistant principal at Rutland, and now she's the educator effectiveness supervisor. Of course, Dr. Bethany Wilson, she was promoted from Gladeville Middle principal to secondary supervisor, and then Mr. Joe Crumby, who was an assistant principal at Green Hill, is now the Gladeville Middle principal. So I feel like our district has done a really good job of preparing our own people in order to step up into leadership roles. I will have a full listing of all of the changes that will take place before the first day of school, but it'll be in the next report for you. Our first day of school is Monday, August 3rd. August 6th, Election Day, will be a stockpile day, which means students will not be in school, but teachers will be, and they'll be participating in professional development on that day. You also have a copy of the 26-27 school calendar. The current enrollment as of the last week, I believe it was 20,618 students currently. That number continues to rise as we have new student registration going on, but I'll have the first day numbers whenever I come back to you next month. The Central Pike ribbon cutting has been set. It's going to be July 29th. 5.30 is a ribbon cutting. 6 o'clock will be open house. You will get an invitation by email. I'll make sure that happens, but I wanted to let you know that that will take place on the 29th of July. We do invite all of you to be there as well. We talked a little bit about the rifle rated vest earlier. There's a flyer in here that's an example of what will go out to parents. This isn't the final one, but the schools will be participating by sharing that information out with their parents as well as putting it on their social media as well. So everybody wants to support our SROs and we appreciate them being in our buildings and anything that we can do to help, we're more than happy to take part in. Watertown Middle Construction, everything's waiting on a permit now, grading permits and things like that. But as soon as that happens, we'll have our pre-construction meeting and start the site work. Another interesting update I thought you guys would like to know that we received a contract from FEMA for $17 million. We signed the contract. We send it back in. That's the next step before they issue the check. It sounds like that is going to happen. I think Mr. Mayor had a lot to do with trying to help that process along. I thought I would share that information. We don't have the check or confirmation that the money's here yet but it's supposedly coming so that's I feel like that's great news. Our Lakeview project the abatement there is some asbestos in the building that is taking place currently right now and of course the contractors R.G. Anderson they're working very closely with the school administration and they're trying to get that done while students are not in school and so we can get that abatement taken care of and then we'll work with the school throughout the school year on the actual renovation piece. And one other thing that I want to mention that it's just very basic information but we have received some achievement data so far based on last school year's performance and this is really under mr luttrell's tenure but currently we are probably we are the second highest performing district of large schools in middle tennessee so in reality jennifer cothran has a whole presentation i'll share that with you when she gets it all finished Williamson County and then it's Wilson County, Sumner, Rutherford, Cheatham, Coffey, Robertson, Maury, and Davidson. So our school district is doing very well. It's a huge shout out to all of you as well as you're our main funding body and our support piece. And so I want you to know that I want to continue the relationships that you guys have had with Mr. Luttrell. He is a straightforward, honest man. I think you all know that. I know that. That's how I want to interact with you as well. I will always shoot straight and tell you the absolute truth. I will not sugarcoat it. I will not try to cover something up. I will just tell it like it is, to a fault. So anyway, I appreciate the opportunity to be here tonight, and I look forward to working with you guys moving forward. So that was my report.

Second second discussion. Just one second on this. I think you know what we have pushed hard for the West Elementary Highway 70 project to be finished before school starts and we continue to call them almost weekly as well as the road on Central Pike in front of Central Pike Elementary. And Chief Stafford, if there's any way possible, we've asked TDOT to also look, and I think they've talked to Mr. Murphy about this, but Gladeboro that intersects with Central Pike, about a turning lane in that area there. But is there a way to get at the very beginning of school, maybe a traffic person there, to just see how big a problem we're going to have with people coming off of Gladeboro, turning left, going to Central Pike Elementary?

if we could do that that would be good and maybe just help that's the only concerns that i've had several calls on that and if we could do that that would be great otherwise we're good just want to pass that along thank you glad to have you aboard commissioner costly i just want to let everybody know i've worked with mr mayfield for a few times we've had i've had a few calls that we've had emergencies at the high school mount juliet high school and all this I've never called that man that he didn't send them people right out and fix the problem. He has done everything he's ever told me he was going to do on time. And that's not always happened in the school system in the 21 years I've been there. And I appreciate that. Thank you for your comment. Anyone else?

All in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. Register of Deeds report is in your packet. I hear a motion to approve that. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Trustees report is also in your packet. I hear a motion to approve it. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Superintendent report, Mr. Steve Murphy. If you will kind of wave at me. My computer screen is not working for if you're pushing your button. Sandra's is, but mine's not. So just wave at me. That way I'll call on you. Mr. Murphy.

Mayor and Commissioners, to this day we've paved 7.49 miles and still paving, doing our patchwork and trying to do our mowing as long as we keep things together and doing our general maintenance. But I do want to give some updates on the bridges, which first I want to tell you we're fixing to do some paving on Coles Ferry. It's 6.1 miles So that's going to begin within, probably within the month. So it's going to be kind of hectic out there for a little while. But the Stewart Ferry Bridge, we're getting ready to get the beam set. Had to do the inspections on them. I know people are fussing because they're not out there on hot days, but they got to understand we got every time we do something, we got to do inspections on them. But the beams are set. Hopefully this week they'll start putting the decking in, putting all the rebar in. Hopefully within the next two weeks they'll pour the deck, which after the deck is poured, it'll have to sit for 27 days before anybody can get on it. So I want people to know there's going to be days after they get that poured, it'll be 27 days before anybody can get on it. That's state rule. The Eastover Bridge, it is at TDOT, the structural part. I'm waiting on them to give me the okay to bid it. So that's where we're at on them two bridges. Now, the Beasley's Bend is still 29 before I can get anything done on that because it's under that BRZ bridge replacement grant. So... Just wanted to give people a little update on the bridges.

The reason why it's the 29th then is because they have another access.

Well, see, we won that grant, and that grant is 100%.

Right, and I got that, but I'm saying for it to be, this is 26 and it'd be 29 before anything could happen. If you didn't have an outlet, than with those people that lived on the other side of that bridge?

Well, if it didn't have an outlet, we'd have to do something different. I mean, that's the thing. But I mean, to go in and repair it, I mean, it would be, we would spend quite a bit of money just to get it open, back open. And the beams that are bad on it, I went and looked at them. I'm afraid if we try to replace them, the bridge is liable to collapse itself.

So what do you think, just a rough estimate, what that bridge would cost?

the estimate they give me the state give me was 10 million that was the estimate mr murphy there's not a bypass that we could somebody said something to me about a bypass that might be able to be used but that's not true not there's not okay all right i had heard something you got a good way in and out johnson road johnson road's a good road okay But I mean, I mean, I know it's kind of aggravating, but I mean, it's still, they've got a good way in and out.

And they're moving this bridge 200 yards upstream?

It's going to be about, yeah, it's about 100 yards upstream. It's going to straighten that whole curve out, so it will be a lot better if people hold off and keep doing it.

Commissioner Glover? I just have a question. I know you said that Coles Ferry is going to have some paving. Yes. Is there any, I just received a call last week about if, is there any portion of Coles Ferry going to be widened?

In front of Friendship. Friendship is going to put in a turn lane all in front of Friendship there from, actually from Holt Road up past the school. But they're doing that themselves. I mean, they're doing it under our supervision, but they're going to do the cost and everything. That's the only portion you know of? There's another one on down before you get to Watermill. subdivision there's another subdivision that's going in it's going to be another turn lane it's right past barton's creek boat dock okay thank you and you're going to add two foot shoulders where you can correct yes we're going to add two foot shoulders to coast ferry where we can and maybe where or somebody heard something about it yeah i mean i'm going to get all i can get on you know where i can mr franklin

Yeah, I don't know that the full board has heard of the story, but could you tell everybody how you got this Beckwith Road bridge out there project from Mount Juliet?

Yeah, the city of Mount Juliet's got a project going on. They've got a development out there already that's in the city. They're adding to the back of the development project. And they're gonna send all the traffic to Beckwith Road, which is going back to Central Pike. And we just told them we didn't want no more traffic until they done some road work. And there's one bridge out there that is on our road list. And we told them that we had to get the developer to fix it, to bring it up to specs before we would let them come out with more traffic. The developers agreed to it, so that's going to be a plus on getting another bridge done. Thank you. I think that's a first. We're trying to anywhere we can that we can make developers improve the road or whatever. That's what we're doing.

Any other questions for Mr. Murphy? Do you have a motion to approve the report? Hang on, hang on, hang on. Commissioner Denton?

i just want uh you said you take 10 million to build the bridge is what the estimate you got on it that's the estimate the state give me yes as are we going to be able to get most or are we going to be able to get that from the state from a grant or are we going to try to come up with something that's a hundred percent from this through the state see if we applied

We applied for this grant back in 22, for that bridge. Wow. And it was 23 when we won it, and they told me that they were gonna start it in 27, then all this happened in East Tennessee, and they told me they was gonna push it back two years. Yeah. So it's 100%. All right, but we're supposed to anyway. It's money we don't have to worry about, so. Four years. Good, good.

Any other questions? Do you have a motion to approve the report? Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. AgCenter report and the Expo report will be next month on our list. Report from Public Buildings, Commissioner Weathers. AgCenter Management, Commissioner Glover. Animal Control, Commissioner Breeze. Audit, Commissioner Glover. Broadband Access, Commissioner Franklin. Developing Tourism, Commissioner Brown.

No report.

Ethics, Commissioner Dow.

No report.

Finance, Commissioner Costley.

No report.

Health and Recreation, Commissioner Chandler. No report. Insurance, Commissioner McFarland. No report. Judicial, Commissioner Gentry. No report. Legislative Ad Hoc, Commissioner Costley. No report. Planning and Zoning, Commissioner McFarland.

Planning and Zoning, June 22 at 5 p.m., minutes in your packet. Who's approved? Second.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Rules, Commissioner Keith.

No report.

Urban Type Facility Board. Commissioner Bernard.

Well, Urban Type Facility Board met. I don't see the minutes, but they're in the packet. We met on the Thursday. You got to hear me. July 9th at the Wilson County Road Commission. Minutes in the packet. I move they be receiving file.

Second. Thank you. You need to make an amendment.

mistake on the minutes. There's a first page, the second to last paragraph. The Director Lynch had the trash that was dumped at the New England Center. That was at the Juneteenth holiday. Okay.

May we accept and change those minutes and will that get taken care of? Okay. Do I hear a motion to approve as the minutes were amended? Second? Second? Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right, it's kind of slow going. Finance Directors, Commissioner, I mean, Mr. Aaron Maynard. Commissioner, sorry.

Just have a report on debt obligation tonight for the WEMA equipment that we did on the capital lease that you guys approved last month, re-approved last month. It's probably the easiest one to... To give you, it's $2,398,000. There's no cost of issuance. There's no interest. Payable over four years. First payment has already been made. So obviously we just passed a budget. Audit is here. We're still working on closing the books. Audit will be in and out from now until Christmas and probably even into the first of the year. So I really don't have a lot to report to you tonight.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye.

Aye. Thank you.

Budget report, Mr. Commissioner Marlowe.

Committee met Thursday, July the 9th in the upstairs conference room. Minutes are in your packet. I move they be received and filed.

Second.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Resolutions? Commissioner Marlowe. Christopher, you can make your way back this way too. I'll let you lead the next two. I think.

Resolution 26-7-2, imposing a temporary moratorium on data centers and high-density computing facilities.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. I'm sorry, Mr. Gentry?

It's okay. After this person talked in the open forum about it, In the United States, there's over 2,100 data centers, okay? And that does not include the banks and the Department of Defense, etc. There's planned to be over 3,400 so far. The biggest part are in Virginia, Texas, California, Illinois, and Georgia and Ohio. We have more than 20 in the state at this time. I agree with the moratorium for six months, but I also agree with the young lady that spoke that we need some expertise from data center development people to be on this committee as well. So I'm recommending that as well.

We have added several people to that committee. Christopher is going to call that meeting soon. We'll invite the public to come and anybody that wants to be a part of that, we encourage them to be a part of it. We don't want to exclude anybody. We invite the water people, the electric people, and other folks, but we'll continue to search for expertise people to be on that committee. Note taken. Okay. Anybody else on the data center? Okay, go to the next resolution, and Mr. Marlowe, you may be able to do it, and Christopher will just stand over and talk if he needs to.

All in favor say aye. Aye.

Yes, sir.

Go ahead. Okay. Resolution 26-7-3, resolution regulating points of measurement when determining building height.

Okay.

Discussion on it? Anybody? Commissioner Gentry? I mean, Commissioner Evans?

Commissioner, refresh my memory on this just a little bit.

So before, as of today and in the previous years, height is always measured from average finish grade at the building line. We're changing it to finish floor of the height. Average finish grade of the building line was always it was always unique to figure out where that was to figure out the average height of a max cap of 35 feet. And that's dependent on the applicant say so of what the building plans say, or if we're not catching a measurement on the front end and we're going out on site and whether or not they've backfilled the structure or is it at the footers. so average finish grade was always moving on us depending on what time we got out to the structure and when it was we require floor plans now on the front end so we can get finished floor is something that is adopted regardless of the type of structure whether it be accessory or primary structures in the county and we can catch that on the front end before a permit is even pulled okay so we just increased the height allowance for accessory structures yes sir so if somebody has a like a pole barn they can go up to 30 feet if they meet the primary structure setbacks of the zone district otherwise it is still 22 feet is the max height up to 35 feet 30 feet 30 feet

underneath there that's set you know they had to level it off and so they've got a four or five foot concrete pad underneath it so they could technically have a 35 foot model from finished grade yes yes sir that would be the same with i mean some homes would be taller depending on what they're built on

Homes that are built on a slab, your finished floor is that slab and your home gets built up from them. Crawl space homes, their finished floor dictated at the subfloor or the top of block would be the closest thing. So those homes are going to look higher than they are from their finished floor.

I understand the reason they won't make a safe place to measure from and the need for that. The concern was, you know, we just increased the height allowance so if we're having another two or three feet or four feet or whatever how many feet underneath it is that a good thing was the concern the i don't i don't know if i have a i don't want to worry about welcome here no something about the next one too so

I don't know if I have a good answer for that for you, Commissioner. It was just, the amendment was a way to get a adopted standard that everybody knew where it was coming from as opposed to depending on, you might have one building inspector go out there one day before backfill's done and they've measured it and then they're like, well, it's too tall and then you get somebody to go out a week later after they've backfilled, the average grade is different. But yeah, this was just an adopted standard. It's not perfect. It's not an end all be all. There probably will be future amendments in some sort. It's just, it was an adopted standard that builders and staff can all get behind it at present.

I think that this is leading into another revisitation somewhere down the line because it's a little bit different if you've got a 30 foot tall barn. versus if you've got a 30-foot tall barn 20 feet off the property line. I think that was the concern from the gentleman I spoke with this morning.

Yes, sir. Commissioner Gentry? Any other questions?

Commissioner Hall? So, just so I'm clear and understanding what we're looking at here, a finished floor, is that a Obviously a polished concrete floor for, say, a garage?

It would be, yes, sir.

Okay. So what if somebody has a basement that is not concrete? What's the finished floor at that point?

Is this basement fully enclosed or is it walkout?

It's a, I mean, it's a pull-in basement for a car, but they don't have it finished concrete. It's just gravel in there. Kind of like what you'd see in maybe like a, like a tractor barn or something. You know what I mean? Under there. I mean, you never know. I'm just asking. So what's the finished floor in that house?

If it is a walkout basement, the finished floor is going to be measured from the street side of the structure. So if you have a walkout basement to the rear, we're not going to count the finished floor height from that basement if it is a walkout from the rear. Okay. Now, if it is from the front, it is going to be measured from the front, and that structure would look unique to the area.

Okay.

So I guess so then the 1st floor of the dwelling would be the 1st floor of a basement feet measurement from in instances where there's a walkout basement on the rear. Yes, it would be the 1st floor of the dwelling. If it's a fully enclosed basement, no walkout it would still be started from the 1st floor of the dwelling. Other questions.

Anybody. Are you ready to vote on this ordinance? Do I hear a motion? Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Did I hear a no? Commissioner Evans is a no. Everybody else is a yes.

Thank you. Resolution 26-7-4, a resolution regulating accessory detached dwelling unit and how it is defined.

I hear a motion to get it on the floor. Discussion now for Christopher. Anybody?

Yes, sir. I've got to talk about this one too. I sat through the committee and went through the Planning Commission as well. There were some questions that the gentleman brought up to me that I don't think anybody had thought about whenever we went through this. I would probably ask that we send it back to committee just for reconsideration. Or we can approve it tonight and then start the whole thing over again in a month or so.

I got a motion second. It's on the floor. So you'd have to give me something to take it off the floor.

Make a motion.

Or.

To defer it or send it back.

Yeah. If you want to do that, you're welcome to.

If not, we'll... Can we ask Christopher to elaborate on this a little bit?

Sure. I think Christopher had the same conversations, and so...

The reasoning behind the change, there's two changes to this existing zoning resolution. The first one, which is the smaller of the two changes, is to amend it from down from 1,000 square feet to 800 square feet. Originally, four months ago, it was 600 square feet. We amended it up to 1,000. We still have the stipulation that it's one bedroom, one full bathroom and a living dining area. 1,000 feet is giving applicants a little bit too much flexibility with structures and they're trying to add rooms that we don't permit in these units. The second change is just a title change of it. We currently call them accessory dwelling units or ADUs and that's changing it to a secondary dwelling unit and the sole reason for that change in definition is because our current private act that we have for AFTs in the county strictly prohibits the charging of AFTs for accessory structures. It does not delineate what type of accessory structures, it just calls out that we are to not charge AFTs for accessory structures. With the existing definition, this would preclude them from being charged. Changing them to secondary dwelling unit would allow us to charge that $5,000 AFT for each permit that is pulled in the county. um there is a difference of opinions on the title of secondary dwelling unit the definition as an accessory people understand the accessory dwelling unit it's accessory to the primary dwelling unit and the conversation the high school is pertaining to i believe is if you're going to call it a secondary dwelling unit is almost saying that you're allowed two homes on one tract of land as a secondary dwelling and if that is the case the definition of one bedroom one bathroom should not apply to those and it should be allowed to fit within whichever size constraints you want so if you have an 800 square foot max they should be allowed to put whatever rooms they want in that structure regardless of the definition is the

is the argument that haskell's brought up i believe he had the same conversation with the gentleman that i had but they can only build you can only use the first site allows perk site perk sites in the county will dictate the amount of bedrooms but so if you've got a four bedroom per okay and then you have built your house and you built three bedroom house you can only put one bedroom in there they can't put another room

That would be correct.

Yes, sir. And the only way that they can get by with that is if we're not doing our job. That's my thing. We're chopping this up way too much.

Well, right. And one of the reasons the definitions that I had written for this is one bedroom, which is a sleeping quarters, one full bathroom, and one living slash dining area. in the limited amount of square feet it there's nothing that allows in the existing if we take the definition part out where they can just free will we get trouble with applicants putting a bedroom a bathroom a living dining area and then they also put a den or an office in there and they get it permitted like that which is completely fine but not everybody in the county pulls remodel permits and that doesn't keep them from changing it to a bedroom after the fact. Right now we have the teeth to only allow a certain amount of rooms in that structure. Not to say that it's safeguard against all of them, but at least it stops them on the front end from having the bones to put in an office converted into a bedroom.

and i'm not arguing with commissioner haskell about it because i don't know which way he's leaning as far as changing the name of it just to pull more money for aft or whatever but i'll be honest with you if you change it to a secondary dwelling or whatever i can show you right now there's people building them right now and you ain't getting no money for it anyway And at least we're getting some kind of, you know, making it legal for them to do it. But if we start going back and start charging people, they're not doing it anymore. I mean, they're just not. Sure. I agree. Yeah, they're just not. I mean, we had a person come to the podium tonight and was speaking about somebody getting grandfathered in. They just went and done it, it seems like, I guess. They just went and done it because you can't safeguard all of this stuff.

Correct.

And so you've got these parameters. I say that we don't change the name of it or start charging AFTs because if you do, they're going to run from it and they're just going to do what they want to do. And then you've really got a mess because then it's going to be two or three bedrooms and sewage running on top of the ground or whatever. So that's just my two cents worth.

Commissioner Evans, is that enough explanation or you want to make a motion to send it back to committee?

I'm going to keep.

I'm sorry.

I just have a question to follow up on what Mr. Dowell was talking about with the bedrooms versus office versus... So on like I've got a situation in my district right now with a two bedroom perk and they're building a 4000 square foot house that supposedly two bedrooms but has an office, an exercise room, a den and I think a TV room. So.

in this situation with this one bedroom that we're talking about for secondary dwellings are we actually talking about like one actual room or are we talking about like a bedroom plus an office we do not permit existing right now if you came in applied for an excess accessory dwelling unit or secondary dwelling unit if you decide to change it and you had an office or a den shown on that floor plan it would not pass our zoning review but houses We don't have a static standards on homes that we have a bedroom standard that is applied to the park side, which in the example you gave it past that. Yes, I do not have any jurisdiction on what people do after they get their CEOs right.

Thank you that that that's what I'm talking about right there.

I saw Mr. Franklin in front of me, so I apologize. That's what Ms. Breeze is talking about. We've had this conversation several times. I bet you can't find many houses that are older anyway, but even within 20, 30 years that were built out in the county that people went in and said, hey, I'm perked for a two bedroom, but here's my plans. And if I just put one bedroom in there and said me and my 10 kids are gonna live in that one bedroom, it's hard to regulate it. So the number of bathrooms would kind of be more sensible to me of how many bathrooms I'm gonna have. But at the end of the day, the regulation part after i get approved you no one can do that i get approved i build my house i'm living in my house i could make something a bedroom i could make it a bathroom i could do whatever i want to inside my house no one's ever going to know about it yes i mean if you wanted to follow all the rules to a teeth we do have remodel so we do the best we can do with what we have and somebody's always going to exploit stuff we know that yes so

Commissioner Franklin. Yeah, it's a big County. There's our one all over the place and on the West side. I mean part of the reason to take this down. I mean this multifamily is very much threat to overtake residential single-family zoning. If we go out of our way to allow big structures to be accessory used and so I think this is trying to address that. And you're not going to catch everybody doing everything. I mean, there's no way. But I mean, this is supposed to be a mother-in-law apartment. This is supposed to be a sick relative apartment. Let me watch after a family member right here at the house. And that's what it's intended. but it is getting abused and the larger that it is i think the more it's getting abused because it's hard to live in 800 square foot and it's hard to rent an 800 square foot for somebody um harder than a thousand and i think that's a lot of what this is commissioner evans yes sir um

Again, sorry to start all this, but I would have to agree with Commissioner Franklin here that this does accomplish what we're trying to do, which was get the size down a little bit. And from talking to Christopher, then if we decide to pass this tonight, then we can still have the gentleman come to a planning zone and committee meeting and speak to that. And if the committee decides to revisit this, then we can reopen it at that point. Would that be assessment, Christopher?

That would, yes, sir. Anybody else want to talk? Raise your hand if you do. If not, you've already got a motion and a second on the floor. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. Commissioner Denton is a no. Anybody else? Resolution passes. Thank you, sir.

Can I give an update really quick? Really? Go ahead. To follow up on some of your other questions, the data center committee meeting, I don't have the time set yet, but that most likely the first one will be Monday, August 3rd. You do have a future land use plan work session with Mr. Sam Edwards for the benefit of the County Commission. That will be August 11th at 6 p.m. right here in this. And then you all will have the land use plan in front of you At your August County Commission and that it'll be up for adoption Whether or not you want to adopt it that work session that Sam Edwards will have Will cover what you can and can't do and what you're obligated to do but then the land use plan for the County Commission's adoption purposes will be at that August County Commission and The Planning Commission did adopted in June and all recommendations coming forward to you will be reference into that plant 2026 plan Wilson.

So I got picture video business come before the body.

I just took note tonight that we have now. where we have people that will be able to speak before our meetings about certain issues. Sometimes we have the same people come and speak about the same issues over and over to our committee meetings as well as some of our commission meetings. And for the most part, we just ignore them and pass them by. I'm kind of concerned about that, that when people go do a lot of research, bring us something, especially allegations that we're not doing something properly, Shouldn't we at least give an explanation for those things? Explain to the public if there's a misunderstanding out there or if we're not doing something right, admit it and let's move on tonight. For instance, I understand what Mr. Johnson had to say to us was probably something for the Planning Commission, and I guess that we'll maybe have to take some action on that PUD project. Something must have changed somewhere along the way that I haven't heard about. So I think that's something we definitely have to listen to, but I don't think nothing would have been said about it tonight if we leave here. Mr. Story, Mr. Chris Story, and he brought his, if I read it right, and I missed two committee meetings all four in four years back there, and I missed the meeting that was presented. So I went back and listened to it. If I understood you in that meeting, Mayor, you said that CTAS said they did not allow email votes in the school board and then there was a land use issue as well, you mentioned. And so my understanding was that the information you got from CTAS is that we had acted not properly in that situation. So if I'm understanding right, all Mr. Shore is asking is that we admit that we haven't operated always according to policy at the time, and have passed it on by, admit it, and make sure that we operate according to what our policy is. And then, of course, Mr. Nelson has on many, many occasions give us facts. I don't know where everything's right or not, because I'm not up to snuff on all that stuff. and I appreciate all the work that's done, but I don't think we can ignore it, especially where we're talking about missing $4 million. I don't think you just ignore that. You at least explain it to the public to where we know where those kind of things come from. We don't want people in the county believing that something is not right. And many times we never address it. We walk out of here and never say anything about it and never gets mentioned again. And so I know sometimes when I don't think we've used proper policy and we moved on, ignored it and didn't bother us. So I just wanna throw that out tonight that we heard four, actually four tonight, the lady spoke and I think that was addressed to the planning commission. But that's my thoughts on it. I don't think we'll leave people hanging when they've done a lot of research, have a legitimate questions. And when we've given them, when we've done the research and realized we did not do it exactly the right way, we ought to at least admit that and move on. Now, I could be totally wrong. I don't understand everything has transpired, but I know that that's not, and the school board's probably going to be the one to have to handle that, but there was other instances mentioned too.

So I'll try to answer the best I can on this, Commissioner Denton. Well, Mr. Sori and I have had several conversations, of course, and the two were on the land use plan on public hearings or public meetings there. And Christopher is still here in the back. Sorry, the land use plan, they had that public hearing at the very beginning, talked about that. GNRC then did all the public hearings out here when they went out and met the public. The question became when the steering committee was supposed to take what the public was saying and put that in a map to give that to the planning commission for their review. That question was brought up. Somebody reached out to Christopher. Christopher called CTAS and said, hey, where are we at on this? And they said, yeah, even though it's a public comment information that you are putting together on a map, you still need to make sure that you do public comment period and that you have public notice. So Christopher said what I do from there and they said hey going forward make sure you public every one of them and that's what he did going forward so that that was what we did on that particular issue. Mr. Story asked me also to call CTAS and said, hey, when they had the school board vote with the committee to try to get to a superintendent level, they had five. They did all those in public. And then when they got through with that, supposedly they left and they're down to two. And he said they did an email vote. I have no clue if they did an email vote or not. I was not there. But I asked CTAS and they said that they didn't have any record where law would allow that. But again, over my pay grade, and I'm going to let you go speak to that.

All right, I'll be glad to. First of all, this body doesn't have any jurisdiction whatsoever over what goes on in a Board of Education meeting. I don't even understand why we're talking about it. Well, I do know. I know why. But we don't have anything to do with the Board of Education. Second of all, I have talked to the people how we conducted this school board search and everybody is comfortable. The school director search, excuse me. That that we did what we're supposed to do. But what you need to know for future school director of school searches is the legislature adopted on May 21st an alternative plan where you don't have to disclose the candidates' names. You don't have to disclose anything about them. and they can be interviewed in a private executive session. And when you go out to vote on electing one, when you give the nominees that you narrowed it down to, you say nominee A, nominee B, nominee C, however many you got. And after you vote, then you disclose who won. And you don't disclose anything about any of the others. Now, y'all know why that is. And the reason that's done that way is that some of these people that have good jobs put in applications here, but they don't want their name mentioned. So they've got that protection now from the legislature. But when you start thinking about what can be done, a director of schools can be selected by a board of education without anybody ever knowing who the nominees are. Now that's the law now. I didn't make it, but that's the law. So let me just say to you, the school board stuff belongs across the street. I've talked to the people over there. I've talked to their HR director. I'm satisfied with what we've done. I know that doesn't satisfy everybody, but that's where we are.

Well, the reason we're talking about it here is because it was a question asked to us. That's why. And it needed to be answered. That's the only reason we're talking about it, because they needed to know that we don't have any authority there. So that answers it, as far as I'm concerned.

And I've said that at about two committee meetings and now a commission meeting. So I don't have any problem, Commissioner Denton, with you following up what a constituent wants. But I have to tell you that you adopt the school system's budget and then you're done.

Second thing, Mr. Denton, was the Mr. Sean Davis, which is back here. Me and him have had several meetings. He came to me probably two years ago with this. I really recognized it at that time, honestly, as a feud between two. He reached back out to me again, you know, and it caught my attention better the second time around. So we spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out exactly what's going on, what's allowed and what's not allowed out there. We have a meeting this Thursday, and Karen Murphy's sitting in here, and she's done some work on that as well to try to figure out between TDAC, expansion of parking lot, expansion of existing dwellings. Does ABC have permits? Do they have actual permits there? So we've done a lot of work, and we're going to meet Thursday on that. Tonight his goal was to get this on the record, that he was, you know, bringing this to us. And so that's the response that we had there. I believe... I have another one that was brought up about the Cumberland Oaks, if you remember back in the day. Commissioner McFarland, I think, was a part of that one. But they brought and wanted to develop that land out there and conserve some agricultural land and put the houses all close together. We went through that a couple of times. We denied it one time here when they had the houses so close that it was too close, and we said no, and they come back and redid it again. And then, so that was approved, ready to roll, and then I guess we changed our PUT ordinance or whatever that allowed them to add more homes. So they came back and tried to do that. I think the Planning Commission denied them this weekend or this last Friday. deferred it deferred it so but that was that issue there uh that he was talking about uh so that one took care of that and i i did not hear uh the gentleman back of course mr ken young that's uh was here he may be gone now but you know his goal was to direct you on your next board appointment that was his that was what he wanted he was just delivering that message and so he delivered that and then The one that spoke about, and the only thing I actually heard, again, we've already addressed the data centers, and it was addressed up here, was the person that mentioned Terry Ash's name, and I could not understand exactly what he was saying, so I really don't know enough about that to speak on. But I think that kind of covers whatever we got. And I'll be honest with you. I chair some meetings in Nashville where the mayors get together. We have public comment down there. And we do not address and answer and fire back at them at that time. We listen to the public comment. All of you are sitting here and you listen to it as well. And if you want to do something with it, then you go through that process to your committee or whatever and do that. That is what I think the comment is for. But we have never, at least down there, we don't rebuttal and we haven't here either. Anything you want to add to that? I'm good. Okay. Anything else to come before this body? Franklin. Commissioner Franklin.

Isn't this non-conforming use thing just a BOSA question? Can't the citizen just go before BOSA and say, hey, I think you guys got it wrong? Have BOSA, have the Board of Zoning Appeal go back and see if a non-conforming use can be added to after the fact? He's got several issues. That's just one of them.

Seems like BOSA may take you up on that, but there were several issues, not just one. Anything else? Anybody?

Motion to adjourn.

So much. We are adjourned.

Hey, here. It could have cooled down for us. Hey, Rick.

Hey, bud. Well, people dance tonight. I have a chance.

Thank you. Thank you. yeah yeah How's everything going? Thank you. She told me. You got it. He's scared of the dog. Thank you. All right. All right. I got to wait until I get out of here, though. That's right. It don't matter.

I love it. I want to go in there and I want to highlight the part I want you to study. You're having all those triggers on. I got it. I see you. I got it. I'm going to highlight it. I can't make it any worse.

I just feel