Historic Preservation Commission - Regular Meeting

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, Secretary Henzik, Commissioner Larson, present. Commissioner Broyals is not with us. Chair Bocker, Vice Cordet, Commissioner B. Commissioner Show present.

Council member Leaison May. Commission or council member Leaison Rambo is not with us. HPC advisor stop and present is not with us. So we are expecting her to show up. Um and our Wildwood Historical Society liaison uh Bill Von Rubin is not with us. Uh though she is with us. Thank you. We do have quorum.

Thank you. And we do have a quorum. Steve, would you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? to the flag of the United States of America under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Welcome to all of you. Thank you for being with us on the first wonderful evening that we've had in a long time. And we're all inside. Uh so thank you for giving up that opportunity to be out there. I would share with all of you that I'm also giving up another opportunity this evening that to this afternoon my wife and I celebrated our 60th wedding anniversary uh thank you with dinner at Annie Guns at noon time so that we could I could be here this evening. So, uh we we are still celebrating a just a little a little bit.

Uh we are we can have an opportunity if you've not already done so to look at the minutes from our last meeting. I assume that most of you had a chance to do that. Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes? There being none, the minutes can stand approved by general consent. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Thank you. Public comment. Robin, is there anyone wishing to speak?

Uh, Chair Bocker, there are two individuals online. If they would like to make comment at this time, please use the raise hand feature. Mr. Chair, I see no raised hands.

Okay. Thank you very much and welcome for you who are listening. The historical society not present but do you have any report from them Robin? Uh thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh the Wildwood Historical Society will be present at our celebrate Wildwood event in September. And uh Miss Von Grubin told me a limited number of calendars uh for next year, the Route 66 uh Route 66 themed edition will be available there as well. Uh so uh they send their regards and that's my news. Thank you.

Are those calendars uh complimentary or for purchase? Uh they are free to the public.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a very nice calendar. They do a nice job. On to old business. The log cabin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair and members of the commission. The update will be very brief. As the memorandum describes, a second bidding process was completed relative to the reassembly of the asen log cabin. The bidding process, I think, was successful because as a result of the second bidding process, the cost um was reduced by approximately $40,000. The matter was presented to the Historic Preservation Commission, the Planning and Parks Committee of City Council, and most recently at the last city council meeting where a bill was introduced to engage Cherret Creek Excavating as the contractor for the project. The intent is to have final passage of the bill, which will become then legislation, and complete the contractor city agreement and be able to get started with the reassembly hopefully sometime in late September, early October. Again, the key um point here is that there's one more reading of the bill and that will be on August um excuse me, September 2nd. And so from that perspective, you talk to any of your city council members, remind them how important this particular project is. Thank you. And if there are any questions, Miss Ke and I will be glad to try to answer them at this time. Any questions? Scott,

I would like to ask our council leazison if you have a feeling with the council on their support of this. Yes, there there are more than two. There's more than a yes and there's more than a no.

Okay. There's an ambivalence um by an element that the the theft, not the robbery, but the theft of the um demolition of the structure to sell for scrap. Um that would identify the remainder of the pieces that were salvage. Could you use your microphone? Could you be sure that it's on and it faces you? Yeah, it's on. Uh, it's on, but I'll speak even um, thank you. Is this a lot better? I appreciate it. Thank you. Is this better? Yeah. Yes, I think so. Maybe you need to speak toward it a little more.

It's kind of behind your Yeah. Oh, there is Is there an ear clip for these things?

You've made your point. Thank you. uh the theft of the structure uh very unfortunate and the fact is that there's a thought that what gets reconstructed will never be the SN log cabinet. It'll be a full scale uh model of what had been. So it's like buying a a plastic car kit model and putting it up. And the real realization that I'm trying to communicate is that there will be probably 30 people in Wildwood that know that everyone else who comes to look at it is going to take it at face value. That whatever the placard says it is is probably what it is. The materials used are of a quality that it's been described to me that it could go decades without annual maintenance. uh all synthetic materials that are much more um prone to weatherproofing than what had been there originally. Crying out the windows will be the latest technology. They won't be rattle clap stuff that has to be repaired every year. So the point had been made to me that when you amortize the cost over decades for minimal maintenance, it isn't going to be painted every year. It isn't going to be reglazed every year. It isn't going to be anything every year.

That's been our intent all the time.

It will it will look to anyone who knows anything like a new model of a log cabin. When they just look at it, they'll see. But nobody will look at it. Nobody will know. Nobody's been putting model cars together since they were a kid. They'll look at it, they'll appreciate it. It'll signify something quite important for the city. Um, I've also found that this is probably a one and done. I would find that it would really cramp village green style if we tried to replicate FA Park. Um, that's fine because I' guess they've got many acres to do it with and it's been done, so it's already been done. Why try to just do something the same over again? So, I know I'm rattling on, but those are the arguments that are up. There's also going to be an element that considers that uh a nice a nice to have like that structure for what amounts to few hundred grand needs to be triaged with the growing um critical mass of other infrastructure and utility oriented needs for the We pour a lot into parks, justifiably so. We pour a lot into what initiatives we're undertaking now, justifiably so. But the big butt in the room is we've got watershed erosion that we're getting zero support and it and the prices are just racking up and we need to in effect show or communicate resolve in taking care of those seeming higher priority priorities than a nice to have log cabin to show off in our village green. Those are just different perspectives. And uh um I'm not going to say that I sense a majority

of any of those one of three positions. You don't get two of those in the same court. You don't get a quorum. I hope I've helped. Yeah. I don't know if I've confused. Well, that's I think what I wanted to hear. Oh, I I didn't want to hear that. Well, it may. Isn't there a fair percentage of the structure that is from the old cabin? 90 over 95% of the logs are old. That's what I thought.

Yes, it will. There will be a new roof on it, which I was more in favor of staying with the uh cedar shingles instead of the synthetic mainly because so that would age and look older. It will have new doors and windows, but you know, they'll be painted with I mean, you have an old cabin, you paint the doors and windows. So, I I think that's when you look at the side of it, you I think you'll say it's that's that's the old habit. So, but I that's

and and I do think I think if we can get say with the school district or with some other group some sort of program where there will be interpretive displays and programs there where somebody will come in and show how they made apple butter, how they wo a basket, how they did all this if we could get that and get a lot of activity there, not just during Celebrate Wildwood, people walking through there, but get some activity going on there. Then I do think it will become a popular thing just like the park and the dog dogard is is to the city. I think it it will be appreciated, but I think we've got to find somebody a group that will use that building.

Joe, do you would you like to make some comments to that for us and interpret it for us? Certainly, Mr. Chair. Mr. Mayberry as a council person probably has a better pulse on the other 15 members that formed understood

that body. But I will tell you that during the discussion of the SNL cabin reassembly, the department did note to many of the city council members that the Essen Law Cabin has been with the city for almost 10 plus years. And in that 10 plus years, the Department of Planning has basically allowed it to be placed on the back burner while other higher priority projects that came along after were addressed. And so my point to city council has always been, we've waited our turn. We don't need to wait any longer. 10 years is enough. And so that's been emphasized to the members that I've talked to regarding the cabin. Secondly, I would argue that given the condition of the cabin, it would have been a long shot if we would have used the rock foundation for a public accessible cabin. So, from the perspective of the department, we were going to change that probably anyway because placing old rocks under a new facility and then inviting the public in is probably not in the best interest of public health, safety, and welfare. not knowing the roof, but the disassembly may have addressed that for us if we had even done it under the guidance of an expert. So, I'll argue that the core components, as Mr. Scott mentioned, are there and for the most part, that's what we basically accepted the cabin um for for the purpose of a reassembly is that it will look like the SNL cabin because it is. And I made one error in my dates. The city council meeting is on September 8th, not the second. My apologies.

Any other comments? If I may, concerning the law cabin. Uh, Council Member Rambo is now with us and I do believe he has a comment as the hand is raised.

Okay. Hi folks. Yeah, I'm very sorry. Um, my power is out. It's still out. I So, which means my well is out. I couldn't take a shower and um I've had I started trying to get in about 20 minutes ago. So, I apologize for being late. Uh but this is the discussion that I was most uh looking forward to participating in. Um I actually spoke to council member Mabry about this and I didn't hear any of what he said. I heard his last 10 seconds. Uh but um I have a different perspective on the cabin and a different perspective on the support in council. The um the the phrase that I have used with um several reluctant folks is that um something for the soul is not impractical. And um for the this is a huge bang for the buck. Um and um the um the uh um the centerpiece of our you know new village green um uh park location. Every time you go to a concert, every time to you go if we reinstitute the barbecue bash, the Friday night music things so forth, people will say, "Oh, hey, this is great." And um folks that are not uh residents will say this is a great community. It's just one more sales point uh in our favor saying that we take preservation seriously. But the um the the condition of the cabin, my the best case I can make is that um if you go to the Smithsonian and look at a beautifully restored um uh MercedesBenz from the 1880s, they will have a wheel that didn't come with that car. they will have refabricated panels um because they couldn't find a fender and um 80% of it will be the original maybe 50% maybe 30% but it does not detract one iota from the impression that folks get and from

the education that they take away from looking at that stupid old you know um car that's been cobbled together because you know what somebody uh did a pretty loving job cobbling together. I think everything that is faux about this cabin uh does us a great service of making it maintenance-free and safer or you know lower maintenance and safer. Um if you look at um Jim Bolan's cabin for example, he restored a spectacular job and it's pro it was probably 80% there. He had new roof plland and new um shingles and and so on and so forth and a different foundation. And you know, ours is going to be right up there with everybody else's restored 200y old log cabin. It's going to be 80% original and the rest of it is um is um new stuff that's made to look old. I see no problem with that whatsoever. And I haven't gotten a lot of there are a couple of folks that don't want to spend a dime for anything on council, but this is important. Uh it's we it's been promised to people. Uh, and for every person out there that wants to spend more on sidewalks or more on storm water control or more on um um slab replacement or road salt, uh there is one that is interested in um in um you in improving the character of our of our crown jewel uh park which is the village green. So there's I have a lot more that I can say about that. Um but um I don't want to take up anybody's time because I think most of you all are convinced um of the same facts. But I don't I I think I think the chances are good that this will be approved um at council. So that's my spiel. Thanks for listening.

If I thank you if I may, Mr. Scott. Um, I understand your problem, Rob, because I am charging my iPhone and iPad as I sit here. I had to bring it up here to charge. I heard 10:00 tonight. I'll hold my breath. Yeah, that 10 o'clock tonight. But my lights just flashed on, Steve, 30 seconds ago. So, keep your fingers crossed. Came on, huh? Yeah. Well, it looks like um things came on and you know, it might bounce up and down.

I can go home then. But no, you can't. I Well, let's see. We should recognize that that cabin is on the Wildwood Historical Register. So, it is a registered historical artifact even though it may be in pieces at the as we speak. Joe, you mentioned that by uh midepptember to October that we would begin the construction of the cabin. Would it be appropriate for us to consider doing something at Celebrate Wildwood like a groundbreaking or a shovel bushing or something to identify the fact that this is going to happen to give us some publicity on the cabin and some try to develop some more interest?

Well, certainly with September 8 looming, I'd like to know if we do have a cabin project or not. Okay. But secondly, obviously the 8th is before the 20th. Um I think having some kind of um ceremony would be very nice. Um coordinating between the two contractors is um something that the department to me. Anything that we can do to publicize the fact that this is happening, the more people will be interested.

Certainly. I actually hope we're underway before Celebrate Wildwood if at all possible. The contracts have been with Sheret Creek Excavating for several weeks now. Um there shouldn't be any issues, I hope. I've not heard of any. Um the signing mayor signs the legislation the same night as it's passed. That's his typical practice. So in principle, we could be fairly ready to go by September 9th if all the cards were to fall in the right place. But again, mobilization on the part of Sher Creek Exhavating um coordinating with bombshell construction on phase one, which we hope is slowly shifting to Main Street and away from the cabin site as best as possible. So, I I probably would like to defer making any announcements until there's a bit little bit more coordination.

Let's at least kind of keep it on the side and think about it and and uh the 20th is fast approaching. We're within a month now. So very we we wouldn't have an awful lot of time to get something together, but if if we can do something that we we would like to consider it, I think regardless of the September 20th date, I think having some kind of um acknowledgement that we're starting the project with the historic preservation commission members invited, city council, mayor, etc. Right. I think that is I think that's an excellent suggestion and we should do that. I just don't know the timing right now. Good. Okay. Thank you, chair. Yes.

Yes. Um you brought to mind director um there's aspects of um post bid um negotiation which were going to be initiatives to drive the cost down a couple of options worth. uh can now just just for my background can that ensue on the on the date after the second reading certainly can and I've already um I've already looked at a couple of items. Um obviously there's the obvious one. If there is clear construction access for Cherret Creek Excavating, that'll be another deduct of almost $6,000. And in terms of some contingencies, we're hoping we can address those and lower that cost as well. So, as I say, after the ETH, if all goes well, there'll be a couple busy days, but hopefully we'll have some good news to you be able to email thereafter.

I didn't uh I didn't feel it appropriate and never would to speak for uh the other council leazison, Mr. Rambo. He and I did share uh what I considered um my getting more benefit from the conversation than he did. He just really um plus me up on background and information. And um one last thing in the world I'd want to do is is say that the project is a shoein and then have some some inadvertent setback and that those happen more frequently than I would have anticipated. But I would say that I'm optimistic that uh while not a shoe end that it it will end up inevitably um awarded or or acted on favorably. Mr. Chair, with your permission, I think uh council member Mayberry's approach is fair. Um we've spent the last almost nine months now at city council discussing our revenues and expenditures. Our city administrator has made it quite clear at least in terms of capital improvement projects, but we need to be very cautious as we move forward and not only look at them once or twice, but even three or four times. So, I think the city council has taken the warnings to heart and we are we're doing our very best to manage taxpayers money as um as appropriately as possible, but also adhere to the goals and the commits that we've made as a city.

Correct. We've been very transparent all the way through and a lot of has gone into this. Very much so. And I emphasized that time and again that the acceptance of the donation was the simple part. From that point forward between the theft and everything that's followed, it's been a challenge for commission members since we started talking about it and we've stayed true to our course and I think the group and the community deserves the opportunity to see the reassembly. I think we must remember that council votes are not always unanimous like our commission votes are. So, it's not going to be unanimous.

We won't get discouraged and you only need nine. U this a little bit of a naive question, but do you have media outlets that you send photos and and a write up of what you either are going to do or you have done so that you can catch these newspapers and uh or you know uh media like you know Facebook that social media that kind of thing so that you can kind of coordinate and make sure those it gets out in a timely manner. There are two reporters from the Eureka leader and then the West News Magazine. I think that I think for all intents and purposes are at all of our city council meetings either via Zoom or they review it via YouTube. Uh we do have now full-times communications manager Paula Vasan who used to be with KSDK TV. So maybe that's um an excellent suggestion to kind of focus her on that as we approach that September 8th date. Yeah, it's it's a great way to get out even the you know the the the council the commit commission and and what we do you know it's it's also a good way to promote that as well.

Thank you. Sure. And thank you all. Historic preservation plan. That's Robin.

All right, Mr. Chair, members of the commission, let me see if I'm advancing slides here. I could have your patience for just a moment. All right, we are back in business. Uh so as this commission is aware, uh we have been very busy this year, uh with a lot of engagements having to do with our historic preservation plan effort. Uh this will be the first historic preservation plan the city has done. Uh we are now through uh much of the engagement uh portion of the plan. Uh there will be many more opportunities for the public to have input including celebrate Wildwood and including down the line for uh drafts of the plan. Uh but at this point uh MIG has come out uh to visit the city. Uh that is Marsha Boils, our project manager on the right, and Lori Matthews, uh who is the director of the cultural uh planning studio for MIG MIG on the left.

Uh on July 24th and 25th, they came into town. Uh we took them on a tour of historic uh Wildwood. Commissioner Showenfeld and Advisor Scott were kind enough to help narrate. Uh we took them down our historic Route 66 corridor all the way. Uh we went up to historic Melrose, historic Kelp. We uh touched on the Madison Valley area. Uh we stopped at Mount Pleasant Church and Cemetery and talked about the um the history there. Uh we went to historic Centaur um and showed them the Monarch Chesterfield Levy Trail where we're thinking of that AfricanAmerican Heritage Project. Uh we stopped by the Westland Acres historic community, went through historic Orville, took them to Big Chief Roadhouse for lunch, and then later on uh I was able to take them down Woods Road uh to historic Glen Co, Rockwoods Reservation and the River Craig Mansion in Mary Cliff. Uh so they got a very nice uh cross-section of our city, I think, uh through that historic tour. And I just like to thank everyone who was involved in that. Uh later that evening, uh Thursday, July 24th, uh this commission did host a historic preservation plan openhouse. Uh we had about 50 attendees, uh which I think is pretty good. Uh we had a lot of public input. We had a full room. Uh the presentation from MIG was very nice. And of course, we had ice cream uh served by two little girls who who really stole the show. Uh so thanks to Senior's Ice Cream, we do have a video now that's on social media and on the city website uh that gives a nice snapshot into the evening. Uh we received quite a bit of input. Uh I talked to a few individuals who are interested in potentially

placing uh their historic assets on the Wildwood Historic Register. So uh that was a good outcome. I talked to a lady who's currently uh restoring the ball as inn farmstead which is a n national historic district. Uh show so she was talking about sending me some photos um up-to-date photos that we can place on our website uh for that. Uh so we had a lot of nice touch points I think uh coming from the open house. Uh later on, actually earlier that day, we had the regional focus group. Uh we talked to a few stakeholders from across the state, including some individuals who live right here in Wildwood. Uh but on Friday, we had our African-American and indigenous heritage focus group. We had our Route 66 revitalization focus group. And we had our focus group with the historical society. And I called it the historical society focus group because we had both Wildwood Historical Society and Franklin Historical Society represented. Uh so that was a nice conversation. Um we had we had many nice conversations. I think the African-American and Indigenous Heritage Focus group was particularly well attended. Um I think everybody who needed to be in the room uh was in the room for that one which was great. um particularly around that African-American heritage and then we'll focus more on the indigenous heritage uh as we move into a future focus group that we're planning for this upcoming Monday. Uh within your packets this evening, I did list out everybody who attended these focus groups. So if you want to get a sense of who was in the room and giving input, it's in there. Um also in your packets this evening, yep, here we go. I've provided to you all of the work

products uh that have been provided to the city uh to date from MIG. So, you have our project schedule to look at. Again, we're about midway through now. Uh we have anformational handout they developed for us at the beginning of all of our engagements. We have the six boards that were created. Uh we have the itinerary for the openhouse and focus groups, the openhouse presentation, uh the the latest draft of our existing conditions report, and finally, two new items, and I put these on bold. Uh the historic preservation plan outline. Uh so you might want to take a peek at that. And the community engagement input um summary. I don't know how ceremony got put up there, but it's a summary, not a ceremony. um it's in your packets and that gives a nice uh snapshot and synopsis of of what we learned uh from these uh from several of these engagements. Uh so I highly encourage you to take a look at that um because I I assume it'll be as interesting to you as as some of our survey results and um anytime we hear from the community. Uh these items were sent to the state historic preservation office uh as our marker for reaching uh 30 30% completion on our historic preservation plan. Uh so they are being reviewed by the state as we speak. Uh we do have some next steps. Uh MIG and the city will hold a focus group as stated uh this Monday at 1. uh we'll be meeting with uh several uh several individuals who weren't available in July but who we definitely wanted to touch base with. Uh Joe Harl from the St. Louis uh center of uh archaeological

research uh will be present. Uh we actually do have um we have an individual from Washington University in their native studies program. Uh, so I think he'll have some really good insight into our indigenous history aspects. Uh, Riley Price from Missouri Preservation and a few others. Uh, I believe I listed them out in the report. Uh, furthermore, MIG will provide a brief 10 to 15 minute presentation to Wildwood City Council on our historic preservation effort uh, this coming September 8th. And finally, uh, MIG will once again visit Wildwood, uh, particularly our our Wildwood native, Marcia Bole, uh, at the Celebrate Wildwood event, and she'll help execute some of the engagements at the tent. Um, so this will be a great opportunity for us to reach out particularly to our business community um, and organizations that will be at Celebrate Wildwood. And that is pretty much my update on the historic preservation plan effort to date. Uh do you have any questions for me at this time or do you have any feedback uh regarding some of these events that have taken place?

Any Yes, Steve. just a comment. Um if still trying to convince the council I guess to give money for, you know, the Essen project and they've got priority concerns, but here we've got MIG going to the council to talk about historic preservation, which is it seems like it' be a great segue to make those arguments while MIG's there who could also put their two cents in maybe support of doing what we're trying to do. The whole purpose of while we're here is historic preservation. So, I I'm all in favor of the SN cabin and I realize there's cost concerns, but um sounds like as Joe said, it's been a long time and um it's probably trying to definitely pull the trigger. It's a good point.

Any other comments, questions? It's just obvious that nobody's going to mention it. the the effort has been pulled off masterfully. I'm sitting on the outside looking in and everything has been polished and slick as snot. That's all. Thank you. And I think we're all in agreement and we thank you for that.

Yes. Go ahead. I'm just wondering if there was anything that MAG walked away from this all the the meetings and the open house and the tour that they walked away with saying this is really significant or you know we think this would be really important as part of preserving Wildwood history. Uh, I think the number one comment I heard from MIG was they were in agreement with many members of this commission that our Route 66 historic corridor has tremendous potential. It's great. Okay.

Yeah. And they've had they've had experience all across the country. Uh, so I I heard that again and again throughout the day that they were just amazed at the opportunity that we have. Thank you. How about Portner Park? Are you ready for that or is that someone else? Oh, we're going to trade. Okay.

Again, thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, and members of the commission. Again, the department will provide a very brief update regarding this particular agenda item. As the memorandum describes, the Historic Preservation Commission and some of its members were intrical in creating the master plan for Portner Park. That master plan was presented to the Historic Preservation Commission for review and recommendation this past summer. The Historic Preservation Commission did endorse the plan in its form. The park, the 27 acres that formed the property is given a very light touch relative to the master plan. After a site visit at the beginning of this year on January 4th and then subsequent visits by the individual members, it was clear that the nature should be the primary component of this park and improvements and changes to the the ecology should be minimal. So tonight you have in your hands the final adopted, endorsed and ratified plan by the planning and zoning commission and city council. The only other item the department would like to identify tonight is that as we move into the budget cycle here after the Labor Day holiday with city council. The intent is to set aside funding for the design and engineering bid specifications for the project so that in 2026 we can complete that and then in 2027 have money set aside for the construction. I would say that given the experience that the city has had recently, we were able to develop a master plan that met

the budget as established by city council as part of its 5-year capital improvements program. So, it was very nice from that perspective. So, tonight, this is the plan. We hope to have it completed in 2027 and the property available to the public from that point forward. If there are any questions regarding the process and now the adopted endorsed and ratified plan, the department would be glad to answer them at this time. Thank you. Any questions about the development of the park? Scott. Mr. Scott. Um, this is I guess it's a little off the subject of it, but there is mention of at Celebrate Wildwood of including the uh park as one of the special places. Do we really want to promote it and identify it because it it'll become it's not ready for people and we don't want people wandering through it that we may we don't want to talk about it with the public until it's ready for people and Mr. Scott, I would concur. As you know from the different site we've had, the existing structures, many of them are unsafe, somewhat dilapidated, and with the demolition of the more recent single family detached dwelling, some of the debris has risen to the surface and so we're addressing that. But again, I think it's premature to have people um think that, oh well, there's an opportunity to go visit it and walk around. It's not ready. Um in fact, um I think we posted it recently with no trespassing. Yeah,

just says that's I'm just thinking it might be best to to keep it quiet and not start bragging about it at Celebrate Wildwood. Sounds good.

Well, I was kind of worried about that with the log cabins. Do you really want to I know we want to promote that we're doing it, but I'm afraid of bringing too much traffic up to a construction site. You know, I have people wandering over there. Square with a little luck will have that the mud pit that now ends now defines the terminus of Main Street with concrete on it. But yes, um parking up here, it's commission members and participants in the praise, you'll have a parking pass for the lot behind city hall, but other than that, it'll be closed off. We hope most people stay away. It's just not a It's just again, nothing may happen, but if one thing happens, yeah, it certainly could spoil.

So, good point. Thank you. And thank you again. Um, I've witnessed at least two, if not three arguments between the subcontractors and people walking on the oval, basically them telling them it's not, it's a construction site, you shouldn't be here, and them kind of telling them to go pound sand. So, it's from everybody's perspective, it needs to get done, and we're working very hard to achieve certainly. Excuse me. Is there signage that indicates it's a construction area and people should not enter?

Yes, we had construction fencing around the perimeter for the first 12 months when the grading was completed and we were kind of in a stall pattern. We had to remove most of that to access different portions of the park for construction purposes. Um, we thought about placing some signs, but Bombshell Construction told us any signs they put up, they seem to disappear that same night. So, wow. We've been struggling at the location, so to speak, just trying to manage access. And, um, so far, no, no one's been injured. No one's been, but the sooner we get it done, the better for everybody.

Okay. tell everybody they wear their personal perspective. Yeah, it's it like I say it's just been an interesting process to watch. So, um one I hope we never never have to replicate.

Next up is the big event celebrate Wildwood. I have one little announcement to make before I I uh give you the total microphone here, but I have been in discussion with my neighbors and uh they have agreed to bring their two Belgian mayors and their carriage to the parade and uh they they will allow us to ride in the in the carriage and uh we have a couple insurance things to work out yet, but other than that, I think I think they'll be here. And then the the mayors would probably be available to be by our tent for a little bit which could cause a lot of interest probably and people coming over to just to see them. Uh so we we have some details to work out and I'll keep working on it and uh my wife has said that she will make a couple signs. She's the artist in our family and she can make some sign that that we'll put on the carriage and it's it's right in our backyard. So, we can go over there and measure and do whatever we need to do to to get it ready until it till it we bring all it. And it's quite an undertaking to transport this major carriage to big Belgian mayors and and a a lot of trappings here. So, uh, I I think we we want to find some way to thank them when it's all over with, and we can talk about that later, but that's not in a in a big hurry, but but I think they'll be a great addition to the parade as as well. They've just moved here from Maine, and they've done this in numerous parades throughout the state of Maine. So, uh, it's not a new thing for them. They will know more what to do than I would know what to tell them to do there. But um she is a new marketing director at Shnooks and so she's delighted that we're leaving from Shnooks uh because the animals will be parked at Shnooks at the outset um of of the

parade and there'll be a tie and we may have Shnook's name on on it someplace. Uh but but they're being very helpful in the whole process too. But I again I think it'll be a very nice addition to the to the parade. That sounds great. How do you think they would do around classic cars? Pardon? How do you think they would do around classic cars? Like if we had a car maybe out in front and the carriage followed

separated enough. We'll be sensitive when you put the parade together that we give them both some room on both ends. We'll we'll probably still use the the cart even and and we'll decorate it. Maybe not as flashy as we would have, but because we probably will need a pooper scooper uh behind the horses uh picking up when we need to and and the little cart can do that for us and we'll get somebody to do that. If we have any volunteers, it'll be accepted, but we'll work that out, too. Well, uh, Commissioner Bertolo did volunteer, uh, some classic cars that she and her husband own, uh, for the parade as well.

Super. So, I'm kind of imagining a Route 66 presence followed by the carriage and then we'll trail with the golf cart pooper scooper. Okay, sounds good. All right. Well, let's definitely coordinate on that. I'll need to talk to our uh parade planners in the department and just make sure everyone's on the same page. Insurance things straightened out. And

All right. Fantastic. Well, that pretty much covers uh my parade planning uh topic. Um the the only thing I'll touch on is once again uh we'll have Route 66 stickers if we want to hand that out to the crowd. um just so we have something that we can be be giving people. Um but otherwise it sounds like we have a we have an idea here. Good job. Yeah.

All right, Mr. Chair, members of this commission, celebrate Wildwood, 30 years of Wildwood. It's an all hands on deck event for this commission. Uh we engage crowds all day long at the history tent. Uh this is our opportunity to talk with people in depth. Uh we don't have as much music uh interfering with our conversations at Celebrate Wildwood. We tend to get more long-term residents uh stopping by, more indepth conversations with folks. Um, it's not uncommon for someone to approach us about a a log cabin or a historic building that they own that they're interested in investing in. Um, so this is this is a really great opportunity to engage with the community around historic preservation. Uh, we typically have our biggest display of the year at Celebrate Wildwood. We have three tents along with a book tent. So that's actually four tents. Um that's a lot of space and a lot of activity and it does require a lot of bodies to manage it all. Um in past years we've had a lot of great ideas and we've had a lot of interactive activities planned and then when the time came to execute them we just simply didn't have enough volunteers per shift to make it happen. Uh so I am uh sending out my plea to you all. Please, please, please uh sign up for a shift at Celebrate Wildwood. Uh so that I know that we are covered throughout the day. Uh I need I need at least four four volunteers per shift to really make things work the way that they need to. Um so if you can um later shifts are especially important because I think everybody wants to attend the parade,

work an early shift, and leave. Well, that means I have empty shifts at the end of the day. So, please consider uh working. We're working towards the end of the day as well. Do you want to bring in some outsiders or friends or you know, I mean, if you're going to be that part up for bodies?

If if you know someone who would like to volunteer, I'm I'm more than happy uh to have someone um volunteer at the tent. did reach out to some of our past commissioners uh with my email. Uh you may have may remember an email from me the other week. Um I did reach out to our past commissioners. In fact, uh our former commissioner routin uh signed up to work the last shift. Um I included some of our previous volunteers on that email as well. Um so sure, anybody anybody we can get would be great. Um, it does help to have knowledgeable volunteers though at the history tent because we're trying to engage them around what we're doing as a commission. So, if if someone shows up and they don't have a lot of knowledge, it makes it harder um harder to do. Uh, there might be we can probably have them handing out points of interest maps, but um but just just keep that in mind as it helps to have someone who's knowledgeable about what we're doing and what our projects are. Uh so I will be sending that email out again along with the associated sign up. Please uh please take a look um and see if there's some time you can donate on that day. Uh Marsha Bole with MIG will be on site. So thankfully I will have another built-in body uh with me at the tent will be primarily focused on the historic preservation plan engagement activities which will require a little bit more facilitation. Um, we're also talking about doing some canvasing because as stated, we have a great opportunity to reach out to our local businesses and organizations, all of who are going to be uh most likely vendors uh at the Celebrate Wildwood event. So, this is a great opportunity to talk to them and that's probably a primary audience we haven't reached yet uh with our engagements. Uh Jill Von Gubven will be uh at the

event and available for some book signings. She may not be there the entire time uh because as you are aware while Historical Society is going through a bit of a transition and she may be needed elsewhere for parts of the day u but she will make an appearance and help with the sale of books. Uh we'll have our usual displays. We'll be giving out Route 66 keychains, uh, historic community stickers, and, uh, Route 66 t-shirts. Uh, any comments, feedback, ideas for our history tent this year? Yeah, chair. Question of Robin. Mhm.

What frequency do you plan sending out this uh, email for periodic checkin for available shifts? How many times a week in the next four weeks? I I usually send it out about once a week. I was planning to send it out tomorrow. May I May I request that you send it out more than once a week uh to not only reinforce the uh to communicate which shifts are left wanting, but also to reinforce the importance of having all the shifts filled. I can I can send it out twice a week. We'll we'll ramp it up until I have full shifts.

It doesn't take much. I can copy paste a previous email and and send it out. So, so yes, if if you want that many email reminders from me, then I am happy to bug you um all the way up to the day of the event. the uh the subtle as a brick train wreck would be that the emails shall continue until the slots are filled.

I I do send frequent emails to this commission so I try not to overload your inbox. Uh but this is our biggest event of the year and it is very important. Uh, so I will be sending that email out tomorrow and I'll be sending it out next week and I'll be sending it out again next week until I have my shifts filled [Laughter] or or until I start getting some backlash. How about dress? Are we doing the t-shirts again?

Yes. Um, I think it it just it's really nice to have us all there in our Route 66 uniform. I I think people people find it fun. It gives us an identity. Um yes. So, please wear your Route 66 shirts. If you don't have one for whatever reason, uh you c you may have another one um because you're volunteering for the event. Um also, if you're in the parade, make sure you're wearing your Route 66 shirts. Is there signage saying Wildwood uh preservation committee?

Yes, we have tent banners. We have a celebrate the history of Wildway, Missouri banner and we have our historic preservation commission banner as featured in that photo. And in the parade itself, is there is there any signage for that? That's a good point. I don't know that we have one, but we could certainly look into printing out a banner or something that you can carry. Yeah, that would be good for like one one person in each end walking. What was uh what was on the ones where the people were trying to hold them on their front and back that year? Remember those?

Uh that was the history book by the history book. So we have done so in past years we've always had celebrate the history of Wildwood Missouri prominently featured. So I mean so they at least associated us with the book. But you're probably right. it would be worth looking into having some sort of paper banner that you could carry um out in front or drape to the car or something. Well, and if it's a vinyl one, you can you could use it every year. I mean, if you if you liked how it looked, you know.

Well, I'll defer to the director on that one, but we'll we'll put our heads together and see what what can be done on the banner. All right. Anything else? All right. You'll be getting my email bright and early tomorrow morning. Oh, I did throw up the poster. Um, I think we're going to retool it a little bit because we think it's a little too busy. Um, but we're going to essentially be asking uh participants or visitors to the tent uh to spend pennies on what their historic preservation priorities are. Um, and we have things like invest in reconstructing log cabins, creating a historic Wildwood Facebook page, installing more historic plaques. Um, and then we also have activities like we had at the back to school party event and that that activity was very popular as we'll talk about once we get to the debrief. Um, I think we're going to split the activities from the tools because I think it'll be a bit more manageable. Um, so hopefully we'll get some some great input uh from this activity uh as well. All right. Thank you.

And are we ready for historic Route 66 revitalization?

We are. All right, Mr. Chair, members of this commission, another event that is fastly approaching is the 100th anniversary of the Mother Road um which is coming up in 2026. and we've been talking about it for the last three years, but it feels like it feels like we're not doing enough. It's it's already August of 2025. Um, but we are we're making some progress and I'll go over some of that progress with you this evening. Um, as you know, uh, we've been, uh, talking about assembling a Route 66 grant program. So, we're we're still in the works on that one. Uh we've talked many times about the city wayfinding signage program. Uh we've installed banners along Old Manchester Road. So hopefully you've seen uh get your kicks in 2026 uh as you've gone gone along the historic corridor. Uh the the historical society will have a Route 66 theme for their calendar next year. Uh we're working on a Route 66 historic marker at Big Chief Roadhouse. And uh presently uh we're planning as a department a drive-in movie of uh Cars 2 uh for next year in association with Eureka and Pacific. Uh we're each going to have one of the Cars movies. Um and I think it's Eureka with Cars One, Wildwood with Cars 2, and Pacific with Cars three. Um so, uh three Fridays in a row. Uh we'll be having our drive-in movie in associ in association with next year's uh back to school party. Uh we're also talking about doing a Bunan derby run and so that should get pretty interesting. Uh right now we're playing around with the idea of a route that goes from the Shnooks Plaza uh to

Rockwoods Reservation uh at Old Manchester and um and then back. Uh so it will be uh more of a derby and it'll take you through some of Wildwood's uh most prominent Route 66 landmarks including the historic roaded Wildwood Christian Church where um the runners from the the actual Bunyan Derby Run uh stayed overnight at the roadhouse that was once there and um of course through our historic pond district. Uh we're working on potentially having Joe Sderman uh come to our community next year. Um we're working on a scavenger hunt and a classic car uh cruise as well. So lots of events. But another big project that we've been working on is the Route 66 magazine with Leader Publications. Uh we've comm we've committed as a city uh to a variety of things including reaching out to our business community to endorse the project to them um and engage uh which we've we've gone ahead and met with the city's communications and economic development manager. So she's uh really uh done a nice job putting together a communication strategy and working with our city administrator to finalize that. Uh so we're moving forward on that front. Um, I've met with the Wildwood Historical Society. They're interested in helping to provide some of the content for the magazine. Uh, so we're working on that front as well. And then um and then as part of our commitment, we did agree to purchase at least one page of advertising in the book and city council did commit to the one page. Um, however, the department is proposing to you this evening that the city consider additionally sponsoring a one-third of a page in the book um highlighting uh this commission's

partnership uh with the Wildwood Historical Society. Uh so that would be an opportunity to really um highlight some of their work as well. Uh that would be at a cost of $555. Uh so if this commission is so inclined uh we would be looking for an an endorsement from you uh towards that goal. Um other than that uh we haven't gotten too far on the later stages. Um I have sent an email out to leader publications with questions regarding a student engagement in the city for leader publications or or for the magazine. Um, I'm thinking of a student competition where maybe some older students submit um some writing or the younger students submit some artwork and then it's featured in the magazine, the winning entries. Um, however, I'm still working with working out the details uh with leader publications before I approach the school district and um other entities regarding that. So, um I think I will go ahead and stop here and ask this commission uh for its feedback so far and endorsement as far as our proposal regarding that one-third page of uh advertising the partnership with Wildwood Historical Society. Thank you.

Is there someone who would like to move that and then we'll discuss it? I'll motion that we take the one-/3 ad for our commission at the cost of approximately $565 55 $55. Is there a second to the motion? I'll second. It's been moved and seconded. It goes before you at this farm. Discussion. Any comments about this expenditure? No comments. No motion.

I I would recommend accepting it. Since I don't have a vote, I recommend to the commission that they accept it. But we always appreciate your recommendation. So, thank you. There being no further discussion, all in favor of the motion say I. I. Any opposed? Motion is carried. Thank you.

Thank you. Additionally, uh the department is working on moving forward with the Route 66 historic marker. Uh this commission has endorsed uh the language that you see before you for the historic marker. Um I believe city council has looked at it as well. Um and we have settled on the location of Big Chief Roadhouse. Uh right now it just comes down to the details of um of working out the details as to who will fabricate the historic marker um for the project. Uh so we're working on that front and hopefully we'll have a good um hopefully we'll have a good update uh by the next meeting if not celebrate Wildwood uh so we have something to engage the public with around it. Uh our next steps um as noted uh we're we're looking at cost estimates from arch engraving and in graphics architectural signage. Uh we're poking at the city attorney right now to determine um which route we can go um because we are looking at potential uh design considerations um having to do with each. Uh hopefully we'll com uh engage the community with drawings at the celebrate Wildwood event and then we'll forward those plans in the estimated cost to city council. Uh if we can order the marker by next month or October at the latest um hopefully we'll have it by the end by the beginning of next year for Route 66. Um sometime next year then we'll hold uh an unveiling ceremony and potentially tie it in with another event. Any questions?

Any questions or comments? All right. Thank you. We'll move on to the work program update.

All right. Mr. Chair, members of this commission, I just have three updates for you that I would like to highlight from the work program. Uh the citizen oversight group for the master plan met on August 19th of this week to review the recommend recommended changes to the planning element. At that time they approved the following language pertaining to historic preservation. Uh as a goal they approved preserve Wildwood's history and culture through cataloging interpretation and preservation of the city's important landscapes and landmarks. as an objective, they approve the language, adopt and implement the city's historic preservation plan. Uh so we're going ahead and we're tying in our efforts here uh with our efforts for the master plan as well. Um uh additionally I I'd like to note that commissioners Boore and Raggy Ramen are making progress towards their secondterm projects and we'll provide an update to you in October uh regarding them. And finally, uh, the department does have a tentative, uh, save the date hold for the afternoon of Sunday, November 2nd for the memorial brick dedications for Jill von Grubin and Linda Hart Camp at Old Pond School. Uh, so please mark your calendar for the afternoon of Sunday, November 2nd. Um, and hopefully we'll be able to move forward with that. Uh at this time I would open up the entire work program for your comments and questions and director and I are available to answer them. Thank you.

Any comments, questions about the work program that we haven't already covered or that we you don't know we'll still cover. There being none, you will see in part B those things that are not ready for action. If you have any questions or comments about those things, we can ask Joe or Robin. Otherwise, we're going to move right on to new business. Any questions or comments about those things? There being none, we're ready for new business. the back tochool party debriefing.

All right, Mr. Chair, members of this commission, uh quite a few of you were involved in our back to school party event uh this past Friday in Wildwood. Uh it was a fairly large crowd considering it was extremely hot and muggy and almost un unbearable. Uh but still we had nine volunteers um at the history tent for back to school party and we had that giant cra c crowd out in the field. Uh I would say this time around we had an even more successful engagement than we did last year at back to school. Um it was it was pretty hopping at our tent at all three activities I'd say throughout the duration of the entire event. Uh we did have some big posters this time advertising the different activities and prizes. I think that helped uh bring more to the tent. And also we did some pre-promotion on social media about our last year's um activities, the Lincoln Log challenge and the zombie uh bean bag toss. And I think that probably got the word out as well. Um but we were a very popular activity. Uh these are just pictures featuring again uh we did have the board and we had our prizes out. We had our giant bean bag toss and we had our Lincoln log challenge um going on again and it was it was great. Um however uh we also were able to gather more input for our historic preservation plan. 87 people participated in this board uh which essentially asked what activities would interest you the most in the city's history and so there were um what was I think there were 15 total activities to choose from and by far um everybody

wanted to take a haunted ghost tour of Zombie Road. Uh that's I mean 60 out of 87 said that was something they wanted to do. So, uh, clearly Wildwood's haunted history is at the top of everyone's list. Um, particularly youth and families. Um, attend a historically themed festival came in second. Eat at a historic restaurant came in third, and interestingly enough, play at a park with a historic theme did come in fourth. Uh, so, um, all of those were were very popular with folks. Uh I do think you know keep in mind the age dynamics and and the groups of people who were answering this. Um I do think in the older crowd we would see more on the history book and our points of interest map. But in terms of youth and families this I think this gives a very good snapshot as to as to what engages them. Um so I was very happy with with that input

and that makes it exciting for our upcoming park. Yes, very. Uh, so that really ends my debriefing. Uh, would anyone who was there that night like to comment or offer feedback as to what we can improve upon for next year other than potentially some battery operated fans is what I threw in our memorandum. I um the bean bag toss was very popular, but in uh from our experience with that, you might want to put some kind of a net behind it because some of those boys were throwing like they were in the major leagues and was nailing people behind the board.

That was exactly my comment, too. um like some soccer net behind her but would sit behind her and talk and just I witnessed several bags with with underhand tosses you know nothing but the boys were throwing some of those probably 25 30 miles an hour and when when it really literally went through there without hitting anything they would fly through and I saw a couple that just narrowly missed hitting people so easy to do to put a board back there which would only not only stop the bean bags but um keep people from standing there um or even small like soccer kicks or you know

Yeah just just to stop it and that's a liability thing I think the city would definitely want to do protect themselves but I thought the openness of the of the whole display was excellent. we people could come closer to us and we to them and there there wasn't as much stuff in between us and so a lot of people were inclined to come and walk along and talk to us and uh yeah I I thought it was much improved over previous

yes yeah I I agree I mean I think it really was better than last year was very much improved uh if we intend to give t-shirts away for building the log cabin. We need to order more extra small and small because those are the winners.

I already I already asked Joe for that order uh earlier today. He gave us consent. We'll have extra smalls at the celebr like a ball cap. I don't that's cheaper than a t-shirt or something. I mean, if you're selling them for $15 and giving them away for building a log cabin, I mean,

well, last year, uh, well, there is, for one thing, there is a marketing element to the t-shirts, like promoting our 56, the more people who are wearing them around Wildwood, the more that awareness gets built. Um, at at last year's event, the city just happened to have like an overflow of previous year's Shivering Shadows gear, and so we were able to give away those as prizes. This year, unfortunately, we didn't have as much of that overflow. Um, so we decided to to dig into the shirts, but we also have those Route 66 keychains. So, that was given as a secondary prize for the zombie bean bag toss. And um we always have stickers as kind of a participation trophy.

Something for the smaller children might be a nice, you know, giveaway. Um I don't know, something like a stuffed animal that says Route 66 on it or something like that. I don't I don't know right off hand, but that might be a might be helpful for the for the really smaller children, especially the ones trying to build log cabins. All right, on to the points of interest map.

Mr. Chair, if I may, I'm just going to take a brief All right, I'm back. All right, Mr. Chair, members of this commission, uh we are actually down to our last box of points of interest maps. Uh they are a very popular uh map at at city hall. I will admit that I am lax in restocking them in the city hall lobby. they always seem to be gone uh whenever I happen to notice and so then I try to put more out there. Um but but they but they do go uh people are very interested in our points of interest maps. Uh typically we do order about 2,000 at a time. That's the most cost effective quantity. Uh when you know ordering through a specialty printer which we have to do for these these maps because they fold them as well. Um we um I I have a number of proposed updates uh before we do make that order. Uh I think we are going to try to survive Celebrate Wildwood with our last box. Um I think typically a box is about what we hand out. Uh but after that um we do have quite a few updates that I'd

like to consider for the next edition of it. Um, I'd like to update the Essen Law cabin uh description to include some of its history, not just its reconstruction story. Uh, we we did a nice write up on the cabin uh this past year uh with its history. And so we actually have some good information. Um we'd like to update the village green description reflecting its completion past phase uh or completion of phase one. Um, I'd like to add more information about the Marioness Retreat Center and update it given that now the Mary Cliff residence has been demolished there. Uh, we'd like to add Wildwood uh Farms Community Garden as a point of interest. Remove the QR codes to the now non-existent Wildwood Park app. Um, add the Route 66 historic marker. add the partner park uh or maybe a coming soon partner park. Uh add the network to Freedom Site for House Ferry um pending that approval of the nomination. Um note the proposed African-American Heritage Trail at the Monarch Levy. Uh raise some attention to that. um update the roadside history description for Wild Horse Creek Road to include the history of the Tyler and Coleman plantations and the Wild Horse Valley uh association. Uh consider um some of our historic photographs for our landmarks, particularly along Route 66. Um I I wonder if people don't even recognize what's there today because the historic photograph is so different. um particularly the Wildwood uh former Wildwood City Hall building. Um it was once a general store. It looked very different um back in that day and I just wonder if people wouldn't put two and two together. Um so in some cases it might make sense to have a more recent

photo. Um note the Orville Historic District is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. I think we omitted that fact uh last time. um add a sentence about kelp excavating uh potentially as part of the um description about kelp. Why is that?

Uh because they have a very long history in this community and I recently attended a very uh informative presentation on it and I think it's worth throwing a sentence nothing major but throwing a a reference in the points of interest map. Um, possibly adding more language and recognition of Zombie Road and its related history. Uh, really upselling that. Uh, mentioning the haunted train ride in association with Zombie Road, which is a new new development, but I think we should start selling that, too. Uh, make minor corrections to the last version of the map. Uh, request that the Wildwood Historical Society have an opportunity to review and provide input. And then uh our director here suggested that we might consider an upgrade to the paper choice as uh as well for it. Um so I don't know what options that would be, but I could certainly investigate. Um at this time I would love to open it up to commission members if there's something that I haven't mentioned here that you believe uh should be an update. Um I'm not going to do this tomorrow. We'll we'll be starting this project. So, there'll be a few meetings yet to have input. Um, but if anything comes to mind, uh, please speak now or send me an email following this meeting.

I I don't think I'm familiar with the haunted train ride. Is that is that that little train in Gleno or

It's a brand brand new thing. Uh, so yes, it's a partnership the city is making with the mini train uh, Wabash, Frisco, and Pacific Railroad uh, down in historic Gleno. Uh it's marketed towards adults. So it's an adult haunted train ride in October and uh it's in planning. There will be, you know, scary scary stuff happening. Um but basically we're just trying to look for every um every opportunity to upsell some of the haunted history that Wildwood holds. Uh we discovered in a recent Route 66 focus group. Um it was kind of brought up uh that we have a nationally uh nationally recognized and known uh zombie road. It's one of the America's most dangerous roads. There's documentaries about it. There's um there's books written about it. There's blogs. There's paranormal groups, you know, doing doing tours on it. I mean, people know about Zombie Road. Uh, we also have some fun haunted history with Big Chief Roadhouse. We'll talk about this a little later on. Um, and the River Craig Mansion and apparently the blacksmith shop along Route 66. Um, the porch, now known as the porch, has a ghost as well. So, we have a real haunted history here in Wildwood. And if we if we sold that, we could probably uh get quite a bit of tourism, particularly around October on our Route 66 corridor and kind of add a different spin um than what we've than what we've had previously. So, um so, so that's that's the reason behind that.

Yeah. I like that idea a lot. And it's funny because a couple weeks ago I reached out to Kristen and Stacy and suggested that thinking, you know, we've been down in the train. We love the trail down there and why not do a haunted train ride and they said it's already in the works. It's great. Uh and I actually volunteered to stand in the woods with a mask and um back in the trees and they said, "Well, you just may get your wish." So just just don't get hurt this year. No, no, I I'll I'll make sure I got a good place to stand or sit. I have to I have a test tomorrow and thank you.

Yeah, thanks for being here. No rest for the we

if if I may. Uh yes, I guess as I mentioned before, I would be uh question the Portner Park being located on the map as the identifying it the location so soon. I'd like to get the information out to people, but don't tell them where it is. So I think I would be careful with that. Noted.

Question, Robin. Would it help you if a motion was made passed that gave you released to get on with it with just these bullets and free you up to move on those instead of waiting on more questions and more feedback and more this and that to make up a more complete bullet list? Uh that would be great. If I could request a a motion um an action from this commission this evening directing the department to move forward on these items. Uh that would be wonderful with the option to add more at live. Correct. Is that your motion, Bob? That is. Is there a second to Bob's motion?

It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion about this motion that we approve the things that have been listed for us. Well, I wanted to ask Mr. Scott, are you saying don't put Portner Park on there because it's not done yet or just you don't want people to really know where it is? It'd be nice to be talk about where it is because

there

right when it's not finished if I may um it it possibly we could just throw in a reference um in association with Hank road, you know, just say, you know, we're planning a park that's going to highlight the area's history. I'm just speaking off the cuff. I'll final or I'll refine that language, but um you know where we refer to the the park in planning and note that it's meant to highlight the historic uh community of Hollow and some of its uh landscapes and and structures. Um but not actually put a points of interest

like you're going to have a little sentence about kelp excavating their history. You could sentence about that. It could just be a reference but no locator information. Anything further? Not the motion goes before you. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion is carried. Thank you. Good. It's last. You said you printed 2,00. How long do they usually last? Uh, this latest batch I printed 2000. I think two years.

Quite a long. Okay. So, uh, Partner Park may be in construction and and all that and might be done within that 2-year time frame. Is that right? That that's why we did include things like the Village Green and Essen Law Cabin in this latest batch. Um, because we weren't sure where those projects would be, you know, right down the line. Um, but that's where I think just making a reference to the park uh will will hopefully be enough for this this particular batch. Okay.

Seeing how construction has gone on the village green, I would not be too optimistic about two years. The way things go showing this with the city with the approval. I mean, it's don't hold your breath. Quick question. Is there anything on the website that has the location that people could find or is there any thought about taking that away too if you're really concerned about folks digging a little further?

Commissioner Larrison, there is a great deal of information about Pner Park. Um the majority of it was part of the public input that we were required to do for the master plan. Um, again, that led to us, as I said, posting some no trespassing signs, but again, um, we'll work through it. Um, I think Mr. Scott's point's well taken. We don't want regular visitors, but certainly we need to, um, do what we needed to do to gain input on the master plan.

Sure. And for the most part, um, after that, we'll take a look at what we can take down that isn't necessarily applicable any longer because the process is over and we'll do our best to kind of keep it a a guarded secret, but certainly one that we want people to get excited about at the right time. The secret park sounds good. Thank you. Have the buildings been removed that are going to be removed?

Have the Have the buildings at the park been removed that are going to be removed? So that's the there's a couple of steps that are going to occur still this year and the beginning of next year. The first is we have a bit of a breach in the dam that we need to address and we're working with a engineer engineering company to address that get some plans developed. And then secondly is the structures themselves. They all have to work their way through the historic preservation commission before we can do anything. I if we publicize it too much, we get people walking around and those buildings are already condemned and dangerous. Uh before they're removed, I don't think anybody should be on the property.

Yeah. Anything more? No. Thank you.

Graphics in the lobby. U Mr. Chair, I think first we had an item on Wildwood history book updates. Oh, okay. Excuse me. Oh, you sure do. Thank you. Proceed.

So, at the same time, we are considering updates to the points of interest map. Um, it was also suggested that those same updates would be applicable to the Wildwood history book. Uh while the current version of the book is our final coffee table edition of it, uh we have as a commission uh discussed repeatedly that the book should be a living document throughout time and that as more research is conducted, we should add to the book um as appropriate. Uh while we don't look to or while we don't seek to change this book often, uh there has been enough activity in recent years and new research uh that we think updating to the book over the next couple years uh might be appropriate. And I'd like to go over with those those suggested updates with you now. Uh so one thing I noticed when looking through the book and it's with different eyes now. Uh when I first started with you and the Wildwood history book project, I was, you know, fairly new uh to the city of Wildwood and just learning its history along with you. Uh so so some of the things that I can now look at with a critical eye today I wasn't necessarily able to do uh a few years ago when we were publishing. Um, and one of those items is that I noticed throughout the book, the historic communities are mentioned again and again, uh, but there's not really a comprehensive history of each of them, uh, in the book. Uh, in fact, uh, there were some details left out that I was surprised by. Um, for example, uh, the historic Gleno, um, has a pretty well-known association with the novel The Crisis by Winston Churchill. It's a famous American novel. Not not the Winston Churchill everyone thinks about.

Um but but some of the most prominent structures in Wildwood were featured in that book and its location was set in historic Gleno. Um it's not mentioned in the history book and that that goes to show um how you know some of these community histories weren't really fleshed out. Uh so we think having a uh standalone chapter or section for our historic communities might be appropriate. Um it would also be an opportunity to uh address some of uh Dr. Rambo's concerns about historic hollow. Um because I think he had a lot of a lot of information to share that never made it into the book. Um this would give us an opportunity to do that. Um secondly, um and perhaps even more importantly, uh we've done a lot of research now, uh over the last few years on Wildwood's African-American history and Underground Railroad. And hopefully in the next couple years, we'll have a few um nationally recognized uh network to freedom sites here in the city. And so I think that important or that information is very important um to include in our history book. Um, again mentioning that um mentioning the historic communities, our Westland Acres community um also u could stand to uh have more meat to it in the history book and perhaps uh some oral histories as well. Um, so we think this opportunity to work with Westland Acres as we move forward on our African-American Heritage Trail initiative. Um, might also be the opportunity to talk interpretive signage, history book, points of interest map um, anywhere we can um, to add add to that history. Um, it's an opportunity that call for additional family histories. I think when the book

was in development uh that call was made many times by the author and um still after the book was published many came and they were like but my family history didn't make it in the book and my you know and at that time the book was published it was over and done with and we couldn't do anything about it. So this might be an opportunity to call for additional family histories and make sure that that's added. Uh more information on Woodcliffe and Mary Cliff. Uh John Gunther apparently has a a very well doumented history of the property. Uh now that the asset is gone, uh the book might be the most appropriate way to memorialize it. Uh JP Connell House. Uh the Wildwood Historical Society has a wealth of uh information and photos uh for that. And now that the house is to be preserved, we should probably look at adding some more information in the book. Uh the Wild Horse Valley Association, uh Commissioner Showfeld has been working very hard to put together a history. Um she approached the department, uh many months ago about a sign, uh a historic sign that's in her yard, uh recognizing the Wild Horse Valley Association. And I think this was in response to our historic communities map. Uh because she was saying, "Well, I don't associate myself with what was your historic community? Fox Creek." She's like, "I don't associate myself with Fox Creek. I associate myself with Wild Horse Valley." And then that started this whole project. So, I think it's important that we include that history in the book as well. Again, Essen Law Cabin history, Zombie Road, River Craig, uh the Marramac River uh could stand to um probably have more history associated with it. Um particularly, uh the dam that was proposed in the 70s that would

have turned Marramac River into Lake of the Ozarks. Um that's a very interesting history that I think people don't know about. I didn't know about it until I sat through a presentation and I found it absolutely fascinating because I I it would have changed this whole area. Um we have some historic neighborhoods in Wildwood uh that we could talk about in the book. Um update the timeline, add some county landmarks. Uh the county landmarks didn't make it into the book and add some of our memorial tributes um as well. And finally, we talked about hyperlinking the index to make it easier for researchers to jump around and find uh different information as they as they research. Uh so actually quite um substantial updates that would result in the second edition of the Wildwood history book. Um so uh just some some information to think about. uh we're we're seeing these updates as being completed over two years time to give us plenty of time to collect those histories, allow for designations to take place and to do the research. Uh the cost is to be determined uh because it's largely going to depend on the work program presented to um those involved in these updates. And uh so we'll have to do some some investigation and and get some cost proposals before I could bring that information back to you. Um but it will involve our graphic designer. It will involve Jill Vong Gruben, our primary author, who will be uh collecting the research and and making sure it all is in tone with the book. Um other considerations we need to think about now that the book has been completed is how to maintain the current flow of it. how to keep it into one voice. U because we certainly don't want

to add make it choppy because we're adding all this new information. Uh we also want to minimize the need for reformatting of the book uh because substantial work was done into its graphic design. So we have to figure out how to creatively add these new add this new content without messing with that too much. And then um again better engagement with the book through a hyperl index. So at this time uh the department would respectfully request your uh discussion on this matter and your feedback and if this commission um endorses us to move forward on this work and at least continue this investigation, get those cost proposals and bring more information back to you, um then we'd request that at this time. Thank you.

Again, is there a motion that we consider re-evaluating the book and uh looking to the future. Yeah, chair. Of course, there is. I don't want to be first. You don't want to be first? Not not for everything. Someone make the motion so we can discuss it. I'll make the motion that we the proposal. Thank you. Is there a second? Can I second? Good. Now you Now would someone else like to speak first? Bob, when you're on, you made the motion. You

um Well, I think we still need more information. Obviously, like you said, uh the cost might be a factor for a lot of folks and that's something that needs to be worked up. So, um it would seem like the cost is nominal, but I don't know enough about publishing and printing and um that's something probably needed, but I I like the idea. I like the idea to make it an ongoing living document. Just as a point of reference, the cost of the book in terms of the payment to the primary author, excuse me. Maybe that's God's way. I should keep it a secret.

You was in the tens of thousands of dollars. I would just note that in talking with the author, she didn't think this round of updates would would be as um intensive as the previous work given she was doing all of that from scratch. And in this case, we're adding pockets of research to what's already created. So, it's a lot less of that research and synthesis and and some of it's already been done by Ellen Riker and Doris Keven Frankie and others um have already put together a lot of written content. So, so yes, that that point of reference is important. Um but just note uh that I'm anticipating it would be a lesser number for this update. Having worked on books before, relaying out a book sometimes can be pretty expensive, just FYI. So, I I don't know if there's any estimates at this point, but if you're adding, you know, additional information, your page flow and all that has to be totally reconsidered. So yeah,

uh so so just uh for some background information, the city did pursue a uh self-publishing route for the Wildwood history book. Uh so we went through Kindle Direct Publishing um through Amazon. And so it comes down to our graphic designer that we work with extensively in the city. Um we're not dealing with a publisher in this case. So we do have some more control uh for making changes. But Commissioner Shfeld, it all adds up. You're right.

Like second is I mean would they be coming up with the new book or is it just supplements to the the book as we have now? It would be additions to this book and then we would basically call it the second edition. Okay. People buying a new book every 5 years.

I don't see people buy I I I would guess that most people who have bought the current version of the book will probably keep that book. There might be some dieards who come back and purchase the next edition. Um but it will be primarily to new buyers coming forward. Any other comments? Again, the motion goes before you. We're simply considering all of this and gathering data. That's correct. Moving into the future. We're not adopting anything. We're not saying yes. We're just saying we're we're gathering data. All in favor say I. I.

Any opposed? Thank you. Motion carried. All right. Go ahead. City Hall graphics.

I am ready now for floor graphics for city hall. Uh so last year our graphic designer uh who also did the history book uh designed these historic community stickers as part of a mapping activity we were coming up with uh for one of our history tents. Uh the stickers came out very cute. And at that time we noted that uh Sticker Mule, which is our or the entity that we get these stickers from, um also had other uh products that could potentially work for this as well, like coasters and um keychains and and all kinds of things, buttons. Uh but what they also have is floor graphics. And so these are custom vinyl durable removal uh scratchresistant floor decals. And what we're envisioning is placing the 11 historic communities um as floor decals around the the stairs on the lower level of city hall, like out near the community room. And that way when someone walks into city hall, they immediately get acquainted with Wildwood's 11 historic communities. And you know, we're all of a sudden that new history is combined with that older history. And you're you're kind of getting a sense of of both when you're coming to the city. I'm not putting that very eloquently. We understood.

But I think you understand where I'm coming from. We do. Uh so 11 of these floor decals together will probably cost around $700. Uh just so you know the the cost attached to it. Uh but uh I think it would be well worth um the bang for the buck in terms of um raising awareness about our historic communities in Wildwood uh to those that are coming to the city. Uh so if this commission shares uh this vision uh we would respectfully request it to endorse the project.

And is this something that people could buy like if you have a concrete floor in your basement or something that you could just could people purchase these themselves or is just going to be something that you'll have for the city? Uh right now we're thinking of it as something for the city, but that's certainly something we could consider. And I think Sticker Mule allows for something of that sort. Like I think you can actually create your own little store um through them and sell products, but I haven't investigated it too much

as we did give those stickers out at the celebration, you know, and uh people were interested in them. So they someone might be interested in having one for their home or clubhouse or whatever. Can we have a motion that we proceed with with the purchase of uh is it 11? I'll set a motion that we proceed with the stickers for the city and potentially looking into having them available for the for the public.

Thank you. Is there a second? I like the idea. I'll second. It's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion or are we allowing her to proceed? What's the thought on the placement? Um, symmetrical around the stairs or do you put them sort of like the map shows and where they were situated um within the area? Honestly, as a next step, I was thinking I would print them out to scale on our big large printer and then maybe at the next Historic Preservation Commission meeting, we can all play with the placement

um as part of our meeting. Um but but yes, I haven't I haven't, you know, come to a a thought as far as the placement yet. Yes, Bob. Thanks. What would happen to the placards that are in the dark aisles where the vending machines are? I thought I saw a bunch of them stuck on the walls. Would they stay where they are?

Yes. We've discussed the department has discussed potentially upgrading the display case down there because we're starting to get too many um items and awards and um you know other things that we need to display uh to fit in that one display case. Uh so I I think I think we can consider all of it as we as we make those decisions. Good. There's thoughts about it. Then

um just an FYI on on these floor stickers. Just want to be careful um that you get what you think you're getting because there are types that get scuffed around the edges that you have scratch marks on uh where the paint fades different things like that. So just um you want to be careful with that FYI. Budget-wise, where are we? Are we uh way over what we've what we have budgeted? You know, we don't see that. So, we trust you guys that you're leading us in the right direction.

Well, the city council will begin the review of midyear budget uh as we make adjustments before we end the fiscal year. So, it's part of what the responsibility of the Department of Planning and Parks is, is to see if we're on budget or close to budget, hopefully a little under budget. But when Robin and I talked about this, I thought it was something that we could accommodate this year. I'll know a little bit more as we get into September. And to Commissioner Shfeld's comment, I share that as well. And I think the best approach is if you endorse the program, we order one. we see how it works and then go from there.

Comments, question goes before you. All in favor of the motion that we proceed with these graphics for the the entryway of our building here say I. I. I. Any opposed? Again, carried. Thank you. This is a nice group. No said no all night. It's I'm working on it. The requirements.

Yes, I think I'm about to have my screen back. So, uh, Mr. Mr. Chair, uh members of the board, uh we've already pretty much discussed what I plan to discuss as part of this haunted history promotion. Um however, uh I do have some ideas to propose. Uh we have not gotten so far as to necessarily um commit to any of these ideas. But at this time, we just want to brainstorm with this commission uh what could be done um to help promote uh some of Wildwood's most uh very interesting haunted history as a Route 66 revitalization tool. Uh so currently the city does uh promote our haunted history in a few different ways. Uh, one we've, this commission has been doing as part of the zombie road bean bag toss at the back to school party. Um, that kind of raises everyone's awareness about our haunted road. Um, the other thing the city does is the Shivering Shadow 7K run. Uh we leave at Lasal Springs Middle School and we host this run on um the Bluff View uh trail system, Zombie Road, Rock Hollow. Um the Friday before Halloween at night. Uh it's a very popular event. Everyone has a lot of fun every year. And I think last year, I wasn't here for it. I was at the CLG uh forum or or whatever it is. Uh, but I think last year they our our recreation staff even uh dressed it up further and had everyone uh dressing up for the occasion and so there were ghosts and ghouls and zombies if I'm not mistaken. Um, also we're doing a new haunted uh

mini train ride. Um, however, some additional ideas I have are involving the businesses of Wildwood, remote town center, um, and the haunted corridor as a haunted attraction. And to do this, we really need to engage the entire business community in potentially decorating for Halloween season and promoting their haunted histories. Uh, so in your memorandum, I suggested things like Bowwin Sinclair Automotive. Uh they might have uh skeletons in fire suits outside their doors because they used to be an old fire station. Um things like that all the way um you know all down the corridor. We can have businesses kind of celebrating their heritage through you know haunted displays. Uh we could engage certain businesses in holding events or themed evenings around the haunted history such as Big Chief Roadhouse. uh we could develop a brochure to market Wildwood's haunted history um and you know various business specials and theme nights etc. um and also push it out through the city website and social media ch uh channels. Uh we can create our own version of City of Eureka Scarecrow Festival event. Uh they hold it every year and challenge people to uh dress up the town. Uh so we could do some something like that uh here in Wildwood. Probably different but but something similar. And we can encourage uh residents with porches because in town center we do require porches uh to decorate them and hold a contest communitywide. See who has the best haunted porch. Um all of these things would make our corridor more interesting to people during the month of October. Um, additional ideas would be to partner with paranormal groups and allow them to lead tours throughout the city at night.

Uh, make sure to partner with them so we know when it's happening and what's going on. Uh, develop interpretive signage for the area's haunted history along Al Foster Trail. Um, we can include information again in the points of interest map, city history book. Uh, we can include October themed programming with the Essen Law Cabin once constructed. We talked about what apple butter and and things of that nature. Um, I think all of those things would be would be interesting. We can partner with area attractions uh to promote October themed events in the area. Um, Six Flag St. Louis um obviously does a very nice job. Um, but we can also uh work with other area attractions as well. and um and then partner with the city's communications and economic development manager to promote Wildwood's haunted history all month long on the uh city social media ch uh channels. Uh so anyway, those are some ideas that I have or the department has. What are some ideas that you have and what do you think about this?

I really like the idea. You know, we talk so much about engagement with the community and our residents. Um, getting them involved, but I love the idea of getting the business community uh involved. Um, we've always been a fan of the Eureka Scarecrows down there, and I think the businesses that participate really enjoy doing that. So, that's a great way to get the business community involved as well. I I like the idea a lot. I'd like to offer the the council's uh perspective in in actions toward an ordinance and all before Halloween. Um you've really filled up the whiteboard with brainstorming already.

There's nothing left that we can add to it. You've you've thought of everything. my idea. It's when I went through this earlier today. Um, how do we how do we translate this into an actionable um measure for the council in a month? So, basically what you're asking is to take this to council.

Take take whatever if we just give you the department free reign. Pick your best 10 because there's I see 30 here. Can you can you can you uh u prepare 30 developments for the council to pick their favorite 10? What what would be the the I guess the the scheme for what you envision is optimal approval of something to be able to get it in under the wire before Halloween. Council member Mayberry, I don't know if I'll have something I should say the department will have something ready by the September 8th meeting. That's fairly quickly. And also this October, we have the tour to Wildwood. We have the board and commission appreciation event. We have an early childhood program, recreation program. And then we conclude, as Robin mentioned, with our shivering shadows. So this may be something that we need to do more on an incremental basis. Maybe we can pick up one or two this October and that'll be the charge I'll give to Miss Keef is of these which ones can we do reasonably given the other things we have on the the docket as well already.

Okay. Um so that that your answer makes me think this the the full brunt of this is for next year. I I think the idea is to start thinking in that direction and if if everyone is is interested in this idea then certainly we can work out a plan of execution but it would take some planning and I think that's that's where maybe it's not feasible to do the whole thing by this October but maybe by next October we can have a more um a more fruitful program.

Yeah. I I just now saw again that it's promoting Route 66's haunted history, not not celebrate Wildwood or or this this Halloween, so there's not a a panic to get in the favorite tin. Um, have you triaged these to to indicate what to recommend as the the biggest bang for the buck for the budget available or for the ones that would impact create the biggest audience impact our publicity? Just just uh if you triaged them and prioritized them and said these are these are um no-brainers. we better do them because they are going to return a lot of attention um and advertisement for the city and engagement with the community. These are more expensive and more elaborate um but they're more sustainable yearbyear that just just a way to be able to weigh to provide weight for them each. I I would say the immediate immediate things that I think would be most feasible would be to get with our communications and economic development manager and have some social media posts and um content pushed out about Wildwood's haunted history this October. And I think we also have an opportunity in the Route 66 magazine um to do kind of a highlight um at least I'll recommend this. Uh Peggy Scott was at that Route 66 focus group meeting and so she was excited kind of about the haunted history piece as well. So I think there's an opportunity to get it in the Route 66 magazine. A little highlight on Route 66's haunted history. Um so I think those are two immediate things that I I could definitely say we could do um uh this October. Um otherwise I'd have to look at the list and and think about it a little more.

Thanks. Final question. Um, if you had a if you had um a preference, would you prefer to be provided free reign and and entertain and and kabutz about the entire list or have uh the commission uh rain it down to a focus on this this front of advertisement or publicity or that direction of public engagement? Would you like to just have a motion to uh run wild?

Uh if you endorse moving forward on promoting Wildwood's uh haunted history, then uh I think uh if you gave the department the discretion, we can meet with the appropriate personnel and see what's most feasible from that list um to do and bring back updates to you at future meetings uh for discussion. Um, but certainly if you have any feedback about what you think would be, you know, the biggest bang for our buck and where we should concentrate our focus, um, I'd love to hear that now. And with the next, is there anyone inclined to make that motion?

I will. Yes. motion that they provide they're provided free range um to examine and explore and put into practice those that are um most implementable this Halloween knowing there's always an next Halloween. Perfect. Thank you. Is there a second? I'll second. It's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion? I have

I was just going to mention since next year is the history of Route 66 to me next October would be make perfect sense for going with all this you know not having to feel rushed to do it this October maybe a couple things October this October yes and welcome to speak because I'm not supposed to be here certainly um I I know it's Is your microphone on? Yes. Jeez. Um I you know I know it's such a cool thing and there is a paranormal thing in Wildwood and it terrifies me. So I have I have to say no.

But I know it's it's going to really promote Wildwood. But there really is a spiritual world and I grew up here and I have to say no. Don't stir the pot, you know, against kind of my faith. If I can say something any other Excuse me.

Yeah. This is this is a long list and they're I think they're great ideas, but at the same time, I'm I am concerned about the amount and and and a time frame. So I think execution at a at a at a pace would be and and kind of seeing how things go and if this is something that's going to take off or not, you know, based on, you know, what you perhaps determine is the priority of introducing these ideas, you know, and just seeing how it goes. I think that would be um, you know, it just makes sense to me to do it that way. I don't know if you know if that's works for you, but

to be clear, it was a brainstorm list, not a right, let's go list.

Yeah. Yeah. So, and I I love the idea of the Route 66 and tying that in and then also tying in the history of zombie because I mean that is, you know, that's putting us forward in in terms of history and the other things are a lot of fun. Bob. Yes. Thanks. You asked for feedback and suggestions. I immediately thought anything has to do with the kids because the kids will draw in the parents that have to drag the kids over to that feature. So kids coupled with easily implementable not a whole lot of money for this year. then a learning curve or an experience curve from what occurs for this Halloween will help um the focus uh and the attention on next year for the more expensive more elaborate more Route 66 oriented items just feedback having heard some feedback from the commission the motion goes before you um again it's a it's a motion that indicates uh a desire for more information and some planning from from uh you guys and we recognize that we're not looking for something specific. So the the uh motion goes before you. All in favor say I.

I. I. Any opposed? You ruined my record. Thank you. The motion is carried. Thank you. With discretion, how about the reporting requirements for the powers that be?

So, um, Mr. Mr. Chair, members of this commission, uh the city of Wildwood is a certified local government since 2001. And what this means is that we work in partnership with the uh federal government and the state government for historic preservation. And so in order to be a uh certified local government, we have to enact our own historic preservation ordinance. We have to point a commission such as yourselves. We have to conduct ongoing survey of our historic properties which we have done. Uh conduct public outreach and education which I think we do pretty well and also satisfactorily perform the responsibilities delegated by the state historic preservation office um including this historic preservation plan effort which is partly funded by it. uh to maintain our status as a certified local government, we are required to submit an annual report to the state every year uh with our uh with the year's activities and we are required to have each one of you participate in at least one approved training throughout the reporting period. Some of you are overachievers. Some of you I have to chase after every so often. Um, I'm going to figure that out over the next couple of weeks and probably send out some emails. Uh, luckily we are members of the National Alliance of Preservation Commissions. There's lots of recordings uh that are available to us uh for this training. Uh, anytime we wish to watch them. Uh, so if you are outstanding on your training requirement, um, I will be directing you to some of those recordings and I would ask that you watch them. uh before the end of September because that's when the

reporting period does end. Uh being in good standing as a CLG is what gets us those historic preservation funds which are funding our historic preservation plan and also our training for next year. Um next year it will send four of us to Minneapolis for the uh national forum of the National Alliance of Preservation Commission. So, uh, so this funding is nice. It really amplifies what we're able to do as a commission and so please get your training done. Thank you.

Yes, Mr. Scott. Yes. I don't know if anyone attended the the uh National Alliances uh mini courses that there were three today and three yesterday. Um, I did mainly because I also get continuing education credits for my architectural registration and I didn't have to pay for it. So, it's very nice. But it was interesting. I It was good until halfway through the uh second one today my power went out. So, I lost that. But uh there there are recordings. I think uh this one is I it's interesting and I don't know how much it'll apply to us. Most of these were big cities with big staffs and large historical districts. But I do think we need to look at how how it how we can make this work and adjust it to us. Um, I think the one uh about conservation districts I was the first the last complete one I I saw today um was interesting and I'd like to find out more of how that could work for us. Um, so I just recommend uh getting uh getting these uh if Robin gives can get us the links to these recordings uh to listen to them or watch them. I I recommend it and uh it's they're hour and a half long, but that's

what it takes. So, thank you. Yeah, I I too have watched several of them and they're they're always interesting and I always think why am I doing this and and then when I get into it I learn so much that that I didn't even know I didn't know. So it's uh it's very worthwhile.

If oh one other thing if I may one thing I was thinking if we have well actually it's a vacant position a representative from planning and zoning on this commission. Should we not have a representative on their uh rep going to their on their uh committee the planning and zoning? I just wonder because there was a lot of talk today about zoning ordinances and how they work and how they tie in with the historical districts. So, I just wonder should we think about that? Yeah, I think we talked to the mayor about that probably if that's what we think we want to do. All right.

Is there any other business?

I have one item, Mr. Chair. And speaking speaking of our certified local governments, uh the state historic preservation office has appointed a new CLG coordinator who is our primary liaison uh between our program and its. Uh so I'd like to introduce Cody Gellard. She is uh an administrative professional from the central part of Missouri. She holds a BA in history specializing in Native American studies from Westminster College in Fulton, Missouri. Cody's background includes five years of experience in the nonprofit sector where she engaged in organization leadership, membership growth, retention, grant writing, and project management. and she enjoys baking, spending time with friends and families and is thrilled to join the Shipo team. So, she is our new cheerleader. I will u make sure to have a good relationship with her. In fact, I already reached out to her and she said that in my first few weeks of this position, I've had the opportunity to review some past and ongoing programs and initiatives and I've gotten a glimpse into the excellent work Wildwood has done while participating in the CLG program. You have an exemplary community and I am excited to get to know you and collaborate with your future efforts. So we are known at the state historic preservation office. Um absolutely.

So welcoming uh Cody Gellert. Any other business for our consideration? There being none, I'll accept a motion to adjurnn. Second. You second it. We've got a second, but we don't have a first. We'll we'll we'll let you do both. We are adjourned.