City Council - Regular Meeting

All right. Good evening everyone and welcome to our work session for Monday, September 8th. Like to again welcome everyone that's here participating either in the room or if you're joining us uh over Zoom. We'll start with the first item on the agenda, which is the call. Uh, let's actually move it to the second item, the roll call. Mayor Geritano, present. Council member Farmer here. Council member Dodwell here. Council member Nyan here. Council member Ottenberg here. Council member Traier here. Council member Mabry here.

Council member Rablooi here. Council member Preston here. Council member Marshall present. Council member McCutchen here. Council member Rambo. Council member Buckert. Council member Crayons here. Council member Vanic here. Council member Alers. Council member Galani here.

Thank you. I don't not have any comments or announcements uh for this part of the agenda. we'll move on uh into for information items. So, I'll ask if uh we have any council members that have any uh requests for additional information or questions related to the items listed here uh that are under for information. this would be the appropriate time if you wish to raise your hand and uh looking around here just seeing if we have anybody that has anything related again under for information. Thanks. Oh, council member McCoen.

Yeah, I have some questions from the developers who are requesting chapter 100. Um, was there a traffic study done? I don't know, maybe Joe can answer some of this. I think that would be the the chapter 100 is unrelated to a traffic study. I understand that. But some of the points that they're asking for in chapter 100, I think is related to the questions that I have. It's for this session is for additional information. And that's what I'm requesting is additional information.

Yes. I just was making sure we had clarity on that and you said uh you weren't specific. Uh so I just wanted to make sure. So director Vonage, could you address that?

Yes, Mr. Mayor. Miss McCutchen, when the town center plan was updated and that update concluded in 2021 with the endorsement and ratification by city council, the group that volunteered to update the plan requested a traffic study be done for the entire town center inclusive of the downtown district. Mr. Brown and members of the Department of Public Works and Department of Planning worked with HR Green, the consultant on the traffic analysis, and we looked at the current state as well as a 20-year period of time. And ultimately, the road system in the vicinity of this particular site can accommodate the additional traffic caused by.

Do we know what the number of the additional cars and traffic will actually be? Well, from the perspective of the department, we know there's 188 units that are authorized. The number of trips per unit, I'd have to defer to our expert, which is Mr. Brown, our director of public works, who is also a PTOE. Council member McCutchen. Um I was just talking with Joe and Joe's I believe his memory has lost in terms of the development itself. I was reminded we did do a traffic impact study um for the actual development in addition to the prior study that Mr. Vunan should reference. So there was a sight specific study that was done for the for the development

and and what will that development add to our traffic?

Well, um typically I I can't quote you the results of the study, although I do recall that there was I don't recall there was any recommendations for significant improvements or any improvements quite frankly. It seemed to mirror the the prior study that Joe referenced relative to the town center as a whole. Um, and if you want a number, Joe was getting ready to reference, I think, the general number of trips per day. Um, per unit for single family homes, it's usually around 10 trips per day, but that's not necessarily applicable to apartments. I can certainly provide you a more accurate number if you'd like, or we can certainly pull the actual traffic study if you'd like to reference that.

Yeah. Well, I'm asking because I I've gotten a lot of comments and out of our master plan update survey that we did, one of the key points was um traffic volume. So, that's the reason for my question is what kind of impact is that going to have on our traffic volume? All right. Any other questions or comments related to for information items? Council member Oddenberg. Yeah. Uh just a quick question. What is the current traffic volume in the town center area right now per day? Mr. Mayor, uh the city administrator says he can answer that.

Uh thank you. And correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Brown or Mr. Funish, but I do believe that study that we we conducted, it was back in 2018. It was about 22,000 cars per day. That's within the town center. If I'm incorrect on that, please do correct me. Well, u just to be um more precise, it really depends on what roadway you're referencing, whether it's Route 100 or Manchester Road or Taylor Road. What about Taylor Road?

They all all differ slightly. Um we can pull the uh actual traffic study if you like. My memory, my recollection is that Taylor was in the realm of 10,000 cars a day, 8 to 10,000 cars a day, but I wouldn't quote me on it. 100 is is quite a bit higher, probably more approaching the number that Mr. Lee had referenced, over 20,000 cars a day, right? Okay. Thank you very much, Council Member Randall.

Yeah, just an addition point. Um I perused once again perused the um the uh study by Dr. thunder um about uh noise in in the town center area and um the the traffic figure for Highway 100 was not given but at the time of that study it was 24 24,000 cars a day on Highway 109. I can't imagine that 100 is lower volume than that. So it might be you know 24,000 plus. Um I just wanted to throw that out. Thanks.

All right. Uh again, open it up to see if we have any other questions or comments under for information. Otherwise, we can certainly address some other miscellaneous. Uh if not, we'll move under for action. Uh we'll move to the first item under the administration and public works committee proposed changes to the city's procedures for review and processing of requests for public funding assistance. Uh council member Farmer.

Yeah. Um, thanks for as we were working through this in the committee, um, you know, we're trying to do things quickly, which I think is important just so we can get some stuff done here. But, um, in this case, uh, I think Tom and I have a little bit of work to do and then I'd like to, if it's possible or nobody has any objections, I'd like to bring it back to admin PW for our next meeting so we can just make sure we got everything lined up correctly because it's it is a super important topic to me. It's why I wrote all of the stuff. though I'd like to make sure that we get it right. Right. So therefore, you want to make a motion?

Yeah, I'll make a motion to postpone it and push it back to Edmond PW and then I would think it would be back here, you know, later than 60 days, maybe 30, 60 days, something like that. Okay. The city attorney's advised uh best uh motion would be to a motion to refer or uh refer back to admin P uh committee. I'll make a motion to refer it back to admin PW. Okay. And council member Dodwell is saw your hand up. Is that a second? Okay. So, we have that motion on the floor. Any other questions? All right. Council member Marshall.

When it gets back to the committee, could could we add on the history? We've done these before. So, the sewer district and the town center area. I think letting people know this isn't something new. Yeah. We've had 20 years of of of doing that. I think the history would help. The things we're going to do in there. Absolutely. Okay. Seeing no other hands up then. Council member McCutchen.

Yeah. I have a question for Mr. Vonich. Um I know we're we're deferring this, Joe. You may be able to ask answer this e too, but um on page 20 on number five, it's talking about public space. And it said in there that 3,000 square ft or 5% of the total site had to provide public space. Is that consistent with our current standard for public space? Well, typically with a we're describing what what particular project is this the multiple family again? No, it's any project.

This is the um like anybody that's applying for public funds, tax base and things like that. One of the provisions that's in there in part of our matrix is the it's the development is applying or presenting public space basically of a certain size. So it's 5% 3,000 square feet and that's that's part of a it's part of a matrix. So it like it's sort of a scoring system. Well certainly I would want to compare what our regulations which is adopted law reflect compared to what is being proposed. Obviously I think the legislation can be more restrictive or require more but certainly couldn't pass through.

Yep. So at this stage I can't make the an assumption and provide you an answer. But if you ask the development community, our current regulations relative to public space are pretty robust. From the standpoint of just a typical single family dwelling, it's almost 1,800 square ft must be dedicated. So with just 10 lots, we're almost at a half acre of public space with improvements. So, um, when this was all done in 2006, we took into account, um, quite a number of factors as well. Thank you. Okay. Uh, did see someone else had their hand up. Council member Dodwell, did you wish to speak?

Okay. So, seeing no other hands up, uh, then, uh, we have that motion on the floor, take a voice vote. Sure. Uh, you go ahead, Connie. Refer back to admin PW. Admin PW. That is correct. Yes. All right. Then seeing no other hands up voice vote. All those in favor, please say I. I. I.

Anyone oppose or abstain? Right. That motion passes. We'll move on. All right. Next under for action we have B1 under planning and parks committee expansion of buildings rock valley director.

Thank you Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor and members of city council. I do want to acknowledge and partially apologize. This particular item seems to be moving at light speed relative to most typical government processes here in the city of Wildwood. And that is partially responsible to our partners, which in this case is the Open Space Council of Greater St. Louis, St. Louis County, and Great Rivers Greenway to a limited extent. As was described at the meeting in August, a particular property is available for sale on Ridge Road. That property is approximately 80 acres in size and has been on the market for an extended period of time. The Open Space Council of Greater St. Louis was advised of the sale and saw it as an opportunity to expand the holdings in the area of the Rock Hollow Valley, which our partners, as I've described, have a substantial amount of acreage, as well as uh offer um an opportunity for some additional trail connections and parking to provide ease of access to the Marramac River Valley. The city council would endorsed the application that is being submitted by St. Louis County, Missouri to the Department of Natural Resources. That application for grant was declared by the Open Space Council of Greater St. Louis. The city of Wildwood endorsed that application through a resolution. Part of the grant application will also pay for improvements and through discussions with the greater open space council of greater St. Louis and St. Louis County. The feeling was is that a limited set of improvements should be considered. Certainly there was the discussion of the cost and who would cover that cost.

And as we know from much of the publicity St. Louis County receives of late they are have very limited funds. Great rivers greenway didn't have it as part of their planning process and the open space council if the grant is awarded is providing the additional $1.6 million the cost of the acquisition. So that left the city of Wildwood to understand what those costs might be. Terasc park designer that has worked with city the city of Wildwood extensively provided the diagram the map that you have before you as well as a cost estimate. The grant application will cover 50% of the cost. And so the estimate was approximately $360,000, which means the city of Wildwood would be required to fund half of that or $180,000. The department acknowledged that this cost is not part of the existing 2025 or 2026 capital improvement plan, nor the five-year plan. the expenditure of the funds would not be necessary until 2027. This matter was presented to the planning and parks committee at its August 18th meeting and it was endorsed for presentation to city council. The feeling was is that if Wildwood through its existing lease with St. County could acquire 80 acres, plus build a access point on Ridge Road, an access roadway, a small parking lot, and a natural surface trail, all for $180,000. It may be the best bargain we've ever been presented in the past 30 years. Again, the Planning and Parks Committee

endorsed it. And tonight, the department via the planning and parks committee is respectfully requesting the authorization to prepare a resolution acknowledged on our commitment for 2027 or later of $180,000 toward the construction of improvements as part of the grant application. If there are any questions regarding this matter, the department be glad to try to answer them at this time and certainly any of the members of the planning and parks committee that participated uh at that August 19th discussion. Thank you. Right. Thank you, Joe. Anyone have any questions or comments? Council member Mabbury.

Thank you. Motion called for. Can I just ask a question? Yeah, if you wish to go ahead. I mean, we prefer to get a motion on the floor, but I mean, if that helps. I'll move to approve this petition. Okay. So, you need a motion to approve um this uh item here and then do we have a second? Council member Atenbergs, please go ahead. Yeah, if you wish to ask. Thank you. U Mr. Mayberry, is your microphone on? I press it one more time and just bring it a little closer. So red means it's on. Yes. Thank you. That means you're live.

Uh what other improvements will ever uh be performed on this site? Is it intended to remain raw?

It is intended to remain very primitive so to speak. So uh what you see in terms of the images that Mr. Kite fel put together relative to the access road, the parking area, the turnaround, the natural surface trail. Bonnie Harper, the executive director of the open space council is already committed that they think they can get volunteer labor to do that. I guess from the perspective of the department, and I think the committee as well, the $180,000 would be not to exceed. So the beauty of this track, Mr. to Mayberry quite frankly is it is very pristine. It has a limited number of invasives for whatever reason and it is mature woodland with a healthy forest floor. It's a great example of what most of the larger tracks of land look like years ago. So, it's not really a loaded question, but I'm just interested whether there will be ordinances that that preclude ever having open fires or things that look like overnight camping tent sites or even these steel welded permanently attached fire pits. None of that

because all that counts to me is maintenance. Well, certainly what we're proposing is to be a very limited maintenance cost to the city and certainly by the time the resolutions prepared, I provide an estimate to city council. But key relative to this site is it is in a residential area. So we want to limit the activity to people coming, parking, using the trail system and leaving. And with our hours of operation, we can generally guarantee to people that they won't be disturbed by the activities of our parks or trail. Thank you. Thanks, Mayor.

All right. Anyone else has any question or comment related to the motion? Council member Farmer.

Um, so I mean it does sound like a pretty good deal. I'm just a little curious why we are being offered such a good deal. Well, the grant application that's administered by the state of Missouri requires the applicant to be a governmental entity. It cannot be a not for profit. Otherwise, the open space council would have applied. the city of Wildwood was an option, but I explained to them that that process would take us well into the middle part of fall, if not early winter, just to work through committee and do the steps that are necessary to be authorized. So, St. Louis County stepped up, much larger uh employee base. Um, obviously, they can do some things we can't do because they have many hands. So, St. county applied. They made it clear they don't want the property for maintenance purposes. And so they contacted the county counselor. The county counselor said that there a charter amendment if any transfer property park property is made or a change in ownership um there has to be a vote in the county. Since we already have an existing lease for Rock Hollow and this would be contiguous to that area that has the existing lease, they felt that they could do just a amendment of the lease and add it to the city. We would cover the maintenance costs, but I can guarantee you what you're looking at again is a minimum set of improvements and relative to the natural single track trail, those require very very limited maintenance over time.

Well, I I mean I would just ask I guess if We're voting to prepare a resolution which then comes back next month, right? Yes, sir.

So, I I mean, I would feel better if we could understand what that those levels of maintenance are currently and might be. I mean, we're looking at some parks now where we're looking at relocating where trails go because of watershed issues. Um, and then also, you know, we're working very hard in committees to kind of better organize our capital improvement structure and how we budget those things. And so, um, that's not to say that, you know, when somebody shows up with like seemingly a really great deal, we shouldn't be able to move on that. But, um, usually when things like this come at it at some level of a cost outside of the specific amount of money they're asking for up front. So, I just want to make sure that we know what we're getting into because we've run into some situations of late where um you know, we've planned on one thing and then something quite different winds up happening, right?

And I certainly understand that. Um in the resolution that was endorsed and acted upon by city council at the August meeting, the department was clear in in its preparation that there would be no cost relative to acquisition to the city of Wwood. that was signed by Mayor Garitano submitted to the greater on the open space council and submitted as part of the grant. So it's clear to everyone the acquisition costs more. It's got to come from somewhere else other than the city of Wildwood. And in terms of this resolution, if the motion is approved tonight, the department would ensure that as I've said that the ex the extent of our commitment to improvements would be that not to exceed $180,000 and that it would not be until 2027. So we could better I'd like to think do a better job with the committee and city council of kind of integrating it into that year or a future year. The acquisition is key. Once we have the property, we may have time to do the improvement. That may be something we can work together on with the partners to ensure that when we do it, we have the funds and the funds are readily available.

So, when this purchase goes through, who actually owns the land? St. Louis County, Missouri owned the property and they'll lease it under that long-term agreement. Rock Hollow is on a 25-y year plus automatic 25-year renewal. So we're probably somewhere around 15 years. So we still have another 35 years of lease time on Rockawa. Okay. All right. Council member Marshall.

I I Joe, I think this is would be a good long-term project. What What would happen if the county decides, you know, they're so hard up they can't take care of Clayton Road that suddenly they're going to start selling lumber off all of this property that's been leased as parks? Is anybody ever is there a stipulation they can come back to you and say effective January 1st? We dealt with that before the incorporation. They've cutting trees down everywhere. So,

well, as part of the lease agreement, there is, and this was done by the the city attorneys, that any activity that we do, they need to authorize and vice versa. So, if they were to proceed forward with, let's say, a harvesting program on a property, we'd have to authorize that, which means we as the city council. Okay. Anyone else? All right. We have Thank you. So, we have uh that motion on the floor uh that was made by Council May and I believe we had a second by Council Member Utenberg. So seeing that there are no other questions take a voice vote. All those in favor please say I.

I oppose or abstain. Motion passes.

Okay. So that concludes under for action and now we'll move into miscellaneous. Uh a there are no receive and file items and we'll move on to the second item which is the presentation by the city's consultant MIG on at the historic preservation. Mr. Mayor, if I may, Mr. Mayor and members of city council, as you are aware, the city council approved at the start of the year a contract with a consulting firm out of Colorado to do the city's first historic preservation plan. That particular consultant hit the ground running right after the contract was signed in January and has been doing their due diligence over the first part of the year finding out what we do, how we do it, all the background materials and most recently held a series of um forums and an open house to kind of gather additional information. Tonight the principal Miss Bole is here and uh is going to give a very brief 8 minute or so presentation of what they've been doing finding so far and then take any questions or comments and with that Mr. Mayor Miss Bole is on Zoom and as soon as um you are ready she will come forward. Thank you.

All right. Thank you Mr. Vinnich. Good to see everybody virtually. Um I know I met some of you um in July. So it's good to uh get to talk to all of you this evening. I'll go ahead and share a handful of slides um as mentioned and then happy to take any questions. Um the purpose of the uh information tonight is to give everyone an overview of the project, where it stands right now, um and some upcoming events and opportunities for additional engagement. So, um, the preservation plan itself, and let me just make sure. All right, you guys can see slide two here. Hopefully, just let me know if you can't. I'm not able to see faces. Um, but the historic preservation plan itself will be a standalone planning document. I know you're also working on the master plan um update right now. This historic preservation plan is happening um simultaneously. We've been talking with the master plan committee as well so that these really tie in together. But this is an opportunity to establish the values around um historic preservation, your cultural resources and think about ways to preserve those but also advance them as a key part of planning for the city moving forward. As I mentioned, this will integrate into um the city's master plan effort, but will be a standalone document. Um but as as we had conversations with the master plan committee in July um they are on board with what this plan will will have to offer. Um and we'll stay stay in touch with them as we go through the process here. Historic preservation is an important topic. Um I know you've been doing a lot of work in Wildwood already on preservation even though this is the city's first historic preservation plan. Um but this is a great opportunity to really capitalize on the value that preservation brings to the community. Um a key thing and you know the the kind of data driven piece that people are always looking for is the economic value that

preservation brings to the community. Um and from that perspective, um even in 2023, um the Missouri Main Street Organization has done some studies about the financial value that preservation brings um and that heritage tourism especially brings additional dollars to a community, whether it's spent on um you know, touring a a museum or um a historic business or just bringing additional dollars to local restaurants and hotels um and other things to support the local economy. Um, so that is always kind of a key piece of the the true value that preservation brings. Um, it also helps protect the character of the community, the things that you know that are historic buildings, historic assets, um, that you may not think of as something that is really crucial that people know when they are when they're lost, when they're demolished. Um, and so preserving that character is really crucial. And a lot of times um those kind of character components also helps bring kind of build the community around it. Um people realize that there's an opportunity to really mobilize and come out and you know voice their their opinions about the value of preservation and so it kind of gets people involved there and then of course promote sustainability as well. Um, adaptively reusing historic buildings is a key key piece that we'll be looking at in this plan effort. Um, to make sure that your existing buildings um that are historic remain in use. Um, we don't just preserve the building shell to preserve a building. We want to make sure that they stay active um in our in our part of the community. This is a really long list of who's involved in preservation. I'll say that it doesn't cover everybody that um is involved in the city's preservation program. Um, the groups shown here are a handful of the folks that we've talked to so far or folks that we plan to still connect with. Um, I'll mention a few of them here in a couple minutes. Um, but

this is just to say that preservation is something that has to be done collectively. It's not just the city. Um, even though this is a city historic preservation plan, um, this is something that you really need to have full support of the community from a range of of perspectives regionally, statewide, nationally to make sure that it's getting implemented. This is our project schedule. Um, we are generally in phase three, which is moving into draft two of the plan, getting to a fuller completed draft. Um, you'll also note that Celebrate Wildwood is included in phase three. Um, from here we'll go into phases four, five, and six that lead to additional versions of the document. Um, more opportunities for engagement and then really fine-tuning the plan as we get there. Um, so wanted to just do a quick mention of some of the ways that we've engaged with people so far. Um, Mr. Greenwich mentioned that we've been doing our due diligence and researching, you know, things that you're already doing. As part of that, we also have been talking to as many community members as possible to understand their thoughts about preservation um how they might want to be involved in the future and ways that we can kind of tailor the preservation program to um fit with the community desires. So, we've had a variety of outreach methods. The first was this online survey which received about 200 responses um that was closed late spring. Um this built on a survey that you already had open earlier in the year. where we added a couple questions, kept it under 10 questions total though and had about five or six key questions and then a couple demographic questions. Um the music on main event that happened on June in June um was run by HPC members. We had about 30 to 50 people stop by and you'll see that mapping picture there. It was kind of the first opportunity to test this question of favorite historic places in Wildwood. Um, it really gave people the opportunity to think of places that should be celebrated, ones that have been lost, um, but should also still be

recognized, and then ones that might be threatened or potentially lost, um, kind of at risk of being lost. And so wanting to think about ways that we can, um, save those buildings in the near term. We continued asking some of those questions moving into the community openhouse. Um, that was in late July. Um, we had about 50 people come there. There's a short presentation at the beginning and then a lot of material for people to review. Um you'll see in the top right corner that people were reviewing information about the historic communities and then continue to ask questions about um those historic resources that should be celebrated that are at risk of being lost or have already been lost. And then also starting to get at what the vision for preservation is um for the city's preservation program moving forward. Also, kind of during that same July time, um we hosted a series of focus group meetings. Four of them my colleague Lori and I did in person, um you'll see the categories listed there that there were regional stakeholders, um one focused on African-American and indigenous heritage, a Route 66 focused group, and then one with the Wildwood Historical Society. And after we had all of those meetings, um we knew that there were still um individuals that we wanted to reach um that weren't able to come to the in-person meetings. So, we hosted kind of a collective virtual meeting um in August and were able to connect with a handful more folks and that topic area even though it's noted here that it really was a combination of topic areas um and focused a lot more on the indigenous heritage piece because we hadn't had as much conversation about that at the in-person meetings. Um we had about 40 participants collectively between those five focus group meetings which was really great. um we had a lot of really um robust conversations and are excited about what people kind of had to offer as far as ideas and collaboration we're already seeing happening between folks that may not have met or um don't have a chance to get together very often.

Um and then the most recent event was the back to school party um that happened mid August. About 87 people stopped by the tent that day which was great. Um we continued asking some preservation plan specific questions here. it was tailored more towards the kids um and so focused about the um kind of top activities that might interest kids in the city's history. You'll see here the top three um noted were zombie road, attending a historically themed event and eating at a historic restaurant. Um and there were also some other activities that happened at that tent to really get kids involved. um one focused on the zombie zombie road bean bag toss and then one for the S and log cabin um kind of building challenge. So I really just quickly want to also mention one of our key initial deliverables so far which will factor into the plan document itself um is the existing conditions report. This was something that as part of our 30% draft one version um we submitted to the state historic preservation office per the grant um conditions and so um they have that as well as an engagement summary to date and the plan outline. So they're reviewing all of that. We're continuing to work on components um in the meantime and we'll kind of continue to do so into draft two which will happen um late this year. The existing conditions report we have divided into four key categories. um because you're already doing so much with the preservation program, we needed to capture that information. So, we've divided it into four. I'm going to go really quickly through these categories and I'm happy to answer any other questions you might have about them. The first is program administration. This really touches on regulations, staff, um designations of physical places, and other related documents to make sure that um you know, it's helping um make the preservation program happen um on a day-to-day basis. The preservation

ordinance um is really what establishes the program itself, sets up the HPC, has regulations in there, and so that is kind of the key piece um of the program administration. Um there's also a lot of administration that happens um with both Joe and Robin working on this very frequently. Um the HPC puts a lot of time into the program as well. Um and then as you all know, there are liazison on council. there are um other folks that are involved regularly to make this happen and that's both at the local level as well as at the state level um with the certified local government program the state historic preservation office and others that are involved. The designation of physical places is also a key piece and this can happen both as individual places um as well as districts. And so we want to just note that there are some individual spots that are designated and then there are collections of um buildings or sites that together um have some sort of significance to the community that are designated. There's also just to differentiate the local historic communities. These are not physical designations as far as in a traditional historic preservation sense, but they're recognizing the importance of these different um historic communities. And those were kind of those big banners that there was a picture of from the openhouse event. Um the city has a lot of great information on each of those. Um and I I know they have they bring those to a lot of events and I know we'll bring them to some upcoming events as well. Um but just to distinguish that those are different from the designated um historic structures. Um and with the program administration, I mentioned too that there are other plan efforts. So the master plan that you have ongoing will be an important part of this program administration component as well as um zoning districts, the state historic preservation plan um and and guidelines and other documents that help um kind of

put this into into action. Information accessibility, as probably um can can tell just from the title, um is basically just how people get their information. And in some of the questions we've been asking folks, um we have asked, you know, what what can we do to make this um more accessible, more engaging? How do you get your information? Where can we put some information so that you learn more about the program regularly? Um one piece of this, um that I'm sure you all know a lot about is the Route 66 revitalization initiative. um talks about the roadside park that happened a couple years ago and then looking ahead to the anniversary um the 100th anniversary. So thinking through on ways to provide that information to people so that they can be involved in that celebration. Tools, incentives and supporting programs kind of come in three buckets. Um the federal level which often provides tax credits and grants um to apply to preservation pro projects. the state level um which also kind of provides those funding opportunities and then the local level um which can provide funding opportunities. Often that's where we find regulatory relief opportunities and technical assistance program opportunities um to really round out that supporting program um realm to make sure that it's not just the financial piece, but it's also making sure people have the information and the technical knowhow um to move forward with preservation work. The education outreach and partners um piece is also really important. As I noted earlier, making sure you have a robust set of um partners at the the local, the state, the the national level is really important to make sure preservation is happening um on a daily basis, that you have people to collaborate with um and that it just doesn't rely on city staff and the HPC to make it happen. Um, one really successful piece of this, of course, is the Celebrate the History

of Wildwood book, um, that was published a couple years ago. We've had sales of the book at each of the events that we've hosted so far with the plan effort. Um, and I know it's it's a popular item. Um, and we'll continue to have that opportunity for people to buy that um, at future events as well. And I'll just close by saying that we're really excited for Celebrate Wildwood that's in just a week and a half now. Um, I'll be there at the event um with Robin and the HPC at the history tent. We'll be asking some of the similar questions that we continue to share kind of as a a key thread through a lot of the engagement opportunities, but we're also going to start asking folks to help prioritize some of the key um strategies that they they may see in the plan document. Um, because we can't do everything in year one, we know that we have to start um thinking through opportunities to kind of stagger some of the efforts. So, we'll be there the whole day. Um, and we're looking forward to lots of engagement then. Um, and then looking ahead once we have a full plan document, we'll be hosting a virtual openhouse event likely in late January, early February. Um, and so just stay tuned for for when that gets scheduled. Um, but with that, I think I'll go ahead and close and I'm happy to take any questions, comments, um, suggestions and hopefully I'll get to meet more of you in person um, on the 20th. Hey, thank you, Marca. I'll uh ask council if we do have any questions or any uh requests for further information. Not then it looks like you did a great job there covering it all because I don't have any questions for you here.

So, that's great. Uh Director Vunage, is there anything else that you wish to add? Mr. Mayor and members of city council, if you do think of something after tonight's meeting, please contact Robin Keto historic preservation planner for all intents and purposes and we can get the information to Miss Bole and like to thank Miss Bole time today. Thank you. Any questions of the department? We'd be glad to answer them at this time. Thank you. Hey, do we have any then?

Thank you. Okay, Director Vunage, thank you. So, uh, anything else under miscellaneous? Otherwise, uh, we will, uh, be able to adjourn our work session. So, okay. Council member Alers. All right. Motion to adjurnn, made, second by council member Farmer. All those in favor, please say I. I. The work session is adjourned. We will reconvene for our main meeting at 6:30. Thank you, Mr. Preston. This is Travis. Sorry about that. Uh, clicked the wrong button. Glad you got back in.

Oh, no problem. I figured something like that happened. President union.

Hello and good evening to everyone here in the room and and good evening to all those that are joining us over Zoom or YouTube. So, thank you for joining us for our city council meeting. It is Monday, September 8th, 6:30. So, we'll begin with our roll call. Mayor Geritano present. Council member Farmer here. Council member Dodwell here. Council member Nyan here. Council member Attenburg here. Council member Tradier here. Council member Mabberry here. Council member Rablooski here. Council member Preston here. Council member.

Yep. I'm here. Send video. Council member Marshall present. Council member McCutchen here. Council member Rambo here. Council member Bockart. Council member Crayons here. Council member Vanic here. Council member Alers here. Council member Galani here.

We got video now. He did say yes. So, okay, there he is. Thank you. Perfect for the record. All right. Great. Thank you very much. Welcome to everyone that's here tonight. So, we're going to uh move into the next part of the agenda, which is the mayor's announcements, appointments. Oh, excuse me. Yes. Let's do the pledge of allegiance first and then we'll get into that. Please join me if you can stand uh for the pledge of allegiance. Pledge. Okay, great. Thank you. Well, now we'll move into mayor's announcements. I'll be stepping uh down and uh we're going to have two proclamations. So, just uh be uh down in a moment. I'll ask uh Chief Krauss to come up front and uh join me. Okay. Yep. Come on up over here. You're in the spotlight. Can you all hear me? Okay. All right. This is great. Well, it's a pleasure to have Chief Mike Krauss here because uh this is a special moment that we are honoring him to this evening for his service to the community on his retirement. And I personally have gotten to know Chief Krauss over the years. And uh for those of you who may have never met him before, I mean truly one of the nicest, most genuine people you can ever come across. someone who really would give their heart for anything that you know he needed and I know that in the years that he has served the Metro West Fire Protection

District, he has done so. So, we are truly honored to be able to present him tonight with a special proclamation from the city of Wildwood, which I'll read to you in just a moment. But again, we want to thank you and the council as well for uh for joining us. So, so we're going to read this proclamation that we're presenting here that we're So, whereas Michael Krauss, a fourth generation firefighter, has faithfully served in every position of a firefighter paramedic can hold since beginning his career in 1990. Most recently serving as fire chief of the Metro West Fire Protection District since 2015. Whereas Chief Krauss has earned numerous certifications and completed hundreds of hours of leadership training to effectively manage tactical operations and large-scale disaster response. Whereas Chief Krauss has been instrumental in mentoring and developing the next generation of firefighters and advancing public safety education programs that benefit residents throughout our community. Whereas through his dedicated service and strong commitment to building close relationships with schools, community members, city officials, and business leaders, Chief Krauss has helped define the culture of professionalism, quality, reputation, service, and trust that is Metro West Fire District. whereas Chief Krauss will continue to serve as chief emeritus through 2026 and will remain an active member of the backstoppers board of directors. Whereas a lifelong resident of West County, Chief Krauss and his family currently reside in the city of Wildwood. Whereas the city of Wildwood expresses its deep appreciation for Chief Krauss's outstanding leadership

and devoted service to the members of the Metro West Fire Protection District and the West County community. Now therefore, it is hereby proclaimed that on this 8th day of September, 2025, the city of Wildwood formally recognizes and honors Chief Michael Krauss for his dedication, sacrifices, and exemplary service upon his retirement from the Metro West Fire Protection District. Please join me in congratulating Chief Krauss. I'm gonna see the chief, do you want to say a few things?

Yeah, very very brief. Um, now first of all, Mr. Mayor, thank you very much uh for the kind words and taking the time to formulate this proclamation. Uh thanks to the council and all the community really uh I want to thank too because um I care a lot about this community and I appreciate over the years of my all my service uh at Metro West all the support that the the good citizens of Wildwood have provided us every time we've needed it. And uh and that goes uh that that doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated by the people that are in the back of the room either. And I'll leave that also and say that as I leave Metro West and active service, I leave it in the capable hands of those people back there that do the heavy lifting and the hard work every day. Um, and I'm confident that you're going to have the the best service ever like you've always experienced and you deserve uh into the future. So, I I I just uh stand here humb humbled and honored to be here and I uh thank you. Thanks again, Chief Prouds, for your service. I know that you're not going to go too far. I'd like to invite uh your family if they'd like to take a photo here with your proclamation. And certainly the folks that are in the back uh that uh serve with Chief Krauss, if you want to come up and take some photos, please join us as well. Why don't we get Let's get you towards the middle here. So,

get the wild. Hey, Marky.

All right. Yeah. Come on over and Yeah. Right. Well, thank you very much.

And you know, while we have we have Chief Brad Shelton, I'm going to take a moment to introduce the new chief. He didn't know that he was going to be put on the spotlight here, but I I think it's great for y'all to get to see uh Chief Brad Shelton, who has now stepped into this role and is going to continue to serve. Uh I've known Brad as well for number of years. Uh so uh we uh I have great confidence in the work that the department's going to do. I know you're filling uh some big shoes there, but you've been ready for this and so uh he's he's going to lead us into the future here. So thank you and thank you again to our our firefighters, our paramedics for all your service to the community that you do for us. I mean, you know, when we have those moments where especially when it's life and death or an emergency, you come at the right time to help save us. So, thank you for everything that you do. And uh paramedics, you're welcome to stay. These meetings do get exciting, so you know, never know when we might need you. All right, we do have one more proclamation. So, thanks again to everyone here uh for for all the folks joining us. But this time, I would like to ask Mr. Rick Brown to come up front. And Rick is no stranger to this uh city hall here because he works here every day. And Rick is our director of public works in case you did not know. So tonight we're honoring Rick for his years of service here uh as a uh director of public works and city engineer. And he has served our city with professionalism and excellence

utilizing his experience in construction, transportation, and traffic engineering to lead the public works department in the day-to-day responsibilities as well as achieving long-term goals. Rick is committed to the city of Wildwood, generously giving his time and efforts in making Wildwood his family home. And um therefore, and I did miss one part, the reason too we're honoring Rick is because he started his service with the city March 18th, 2015. So this is his 10year anniversary with Wildwood. So this is why we're honoring him. So therefore, it's proclaimed by the mayor and the city council of the city of Wildwood that this recognition is hereby extended to Rick upon his 10-year anniversary of his employment with the city of Wildwood along with our sincere thanks and appreciation for his hard work and dedication to our community. Thank you, Rick. All right. Well, that concludes the proclamation, so I'll be stepping back up there. And thank you, Travis, for the microphone. Okay. Uh, moving along in our agenda. Appointments will be part of the consent agenda as well as the approval of minutes. So, at this time, we will begin public participation. And uh, we have several folks that have uh, submitted a speaker card that wish to speak. So,

Mr. Mayor, excuse me.

Uh, point of order. Um, I think many of the residents that are here tonight are probably here regarding uh the bill regarding the chapter 100 topic. And I know that over the past week I and a number of the council members have um heard very similar questions on several aspects of that legislation. And I wonder if it would be appropriate at this point in time to have the city administrator clarify a couple of things regarding that chapter 100 legislation that may go a long way towards answering some of the questions that our residents have uh prior to the public participation actually taking place. Is that an appropriate thing that we could do at this point in time? Well, normally uh what I would say is we have public participation because there are speakers for various topics. Actually, that's not the only one. Uh but certainly the council does have the opportunity to address any questions after public participation. So, if there is a question that's been directed, all right,

you we can certainly look at that. So, we'll continue with public participation, but thanks again for that suggestion. So let me just read a couple of things here. Again, if you wish to speak, you must complete a speaker card and provide it to the city clerk who quiz seated to your left of the po to the left of the podium. And when your name is called, please approach the podium and state your name and ward to ensure all those who wish to speak have the opportunity to do so. There is a fivem minute time limitation. I will let you know when that time limit is being reached. Again, if you have any questions, please mention that during your remarks. Identify an official that you would like to respond. The official make note of it and at the conclusion of public participation. Any official who chooses to respond will have three minutes to do so as all questions directed to that official. An official may choose to respond to questions after tonight's meeting. And we ask you to be respectful in making your remarks and interrupting others and using any profane or abusive language are prohibited. And we thank you in advance for following these guidelines. So, we'll go ahead with the um first speaker,

Terry Jordan wants to speak on Greenberg Development. Hi, I'll keep my I'll keep my comments under five minutes definitely. Um some here, this will be one of those words. Pinky, as my grandmother would have said, I just feel like that the chapter 100 request should be denied because I feel like it is going to set a precedent that now and then next year and the next several years that as a city we're going to be hit with it, let alone the people that have just recently done projects that want to come back and revisit this. And I think it'll set a precedent that will not be something we can ever come back from. and I think we should be against it. So, thank you for your time tonight and I appreciate it.

Thank you. All right. Uh, next speaker, Lauren Jordan, wants to speak on Turnberry Emergency Access at Streker Road.

Good evening, Mayor Keratano and uh, council members. I have some prepared remarks to keep it uh, on target. So, I'll just read off, excuse the reading. Uh, we are here to show our continued commitment as Turnberry community uh to our community, which supports uh very strongly keeping our emergency access point at Strucker Road uh for the safety of our community and for the motorists that may otherwise be at risk if turning off of Turnberry Place Drive uh to make a largely blind uh turn on Destructor Road. I would also like to note that we respect the council's time and service to our community despite the numerous issues that come before the council. So, I will keep my comments brief. As I've already mentioned, I along with several other residents joined the public works meeting last week to express our position and gain more insight into the motivations behi motivations behind the recent decision affecting our community's safety. Our discussion with the committee was very informative and we thank the committee for their time and patience in answering all of our questions. Mr. Lee, Mr. Farmer, and Mr. Brown uh were um very helpful in making us more aware of the next steps and our option to appeal the decision. We believe the score assessment will be revised down below well below the 70% uh threshold or 70 point threshold that was laid out upon appeal and intend to work with director Brown uh to move through the appeal process. I am however hopeful that the council will uh offer more consideration and possibly reconsider their vote that was taken that took place on July 14th. that belief uh which respectfully we believe was premature in the process and we

would like uh that be considered again uh you know with all due respect um further let's see excuse me yes and uh also um we would love if you would consider the plan that we offered at uh the August meeting um with the presentation uh several low notes. Um we are committed to that as a community. We are actively uh speaking with all of our residents so that we can gain the backing uh for the funding, but we can't really commit to that unless we get some sort of signal from this council. Um which we are offering in good like we're offering this commitment in good faith. We would like to work with the council. you tell us what's needed and we can uh compromise here um as a community, you know, to fulfill the goals of the council which uh we understand is community safety and we understand that um you know, we want to present something that is um that is uh to the standards of Wildwood. So, I'll ask you two questions uh that I'd like you to consider for yourselves. Uh, does this action help our community, not just Turnberry, but Wildwood at large? And then, is it necessary to achieve your own goals? Uh, finally, please take this opportunity to work with us as you continue to put Wildwood residents first. And I appreciate all of your time. Uh, I hope that I hear from you. Uh, my personal email is available. Um, I've I've sent it to Mr. Mabry and Mr. Troutier. I believe all of you have a um recent uh email from me back in August or end of July. So, uh thanks.

Thank you. All right. Uh the next speaker, Bridget Fiser, Turnberry, please.

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members. I am here to speak on behalf of the Turnberry Place neighborhood. We are we have heard what you have said about reopening the emergency access. We would like to keep that as an emergency access because we believe that the safety of the residents of our neighborhood is just as important as the residents of the remaining Wildwood. As stated in the Wildwood Gazette, road improvements are happening throughout Wildwood with your tax dollars at work on more projects than anywhere else around. These efforts mean safer, smoother streets for everyone. Spending the tax dollars to reopen the emergency access at Turnberry Place and Strucker Road is not spending our tax dollars to keep the straight street safe for others. It states that it's a top priority and that when our streets are safe and calm, it means more freedom for kids to ride their bikes, neighbors to walk together, and families to enjoy being outdoors. We ask that you think about keeping our street just as safe as other streets in Wildwood so the kids in our neighborhood can play freely, so our neighbors can walk the streets freely, so our neighbors can walk their dogs. Not only does it state this on this page two of the Wildwood Gazette, on page five, sorry, page six, there's another area discussing safe streets of Wildwood. So I ask you council members, why is every street in Wildwood important to have safe streets except Turnberry Place? We ask that you keep our street just as safe as every other

street in Wildwood and leave the striker entrance an emergency access. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, next speaker. Steve Scott wants to speak on Essen Log Cabin.

Uh Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I'm Steve Scott, Ward 6. I'd like to talk just a few minutes about the Essen Log Cabin, which will have its second uh reading tonight. It's been quite a few years we've been fighting trying to get it built and I finally we've come to that point where we have a very qualified contractor ready to build it. Um, it's gone through a long and difficult life through lots of steps, but I think it's it's come time now to please approve the contract for the reconstruction. We've all the logs are there. They've been tagged. They're going to go back the way they were. There will be new construction in it but it will be the framing within the house but it will be authentic to the original construction. The only modification will be the foundation which will be a concrete foundation which will last a lot longer but will be completely concealed. So with that, I just ask for a positive vote on the Essen log cabin this evening. So thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thanks, speaker. Lynn Link, Chapter 100. Lyn Link, Ward Six. I want to highlight the adverse effects of issuing chapter 100 bonds and giving any form of tax abatement, including allowing rental property developers to form non-t taxable nonprofit HOAs can have on communities and school districts. As citizens, we see our property tax continue to increase as residential tenants also see their rent skyrocket and yet we pay them. It's not about wanting not wanting rental properties. It's about not wanting to risk financial solvent solveny of our municipality and school districts by using tax dollars and abatement to fund real estate developments for millionaires. It is imperative to know the full history of chapter 100 bonds and of this developer Tom Cayman to see if his history adds any additional risk factor. Industrial development bonds date back as far as the 1930s being used to entice industrial development to poor rural areas to hopefully increase the tax base. In 1960s the chapter 100 of the Missouri revised statutes was created specifically setting clear limitations of industrial and that is the key word revenue bonds. Section 100.010 010 of the Missouri Revised Statute. Subsection two defines facilities as quote an industrial plant purchased, constructed, extended, or improved. Subsection five defines quote office industry as regional headquarters and processing

centers. Subsection six defines industrial development facilities. And obviously, these qualifying definitions do not describe the proposed Wildwood luxury apartments. The Missouri Secretary of State shows that Mr. Cayman is listed as registered agent for 75 Missouri LLC corporations and/or fictitious names including apartment complexes in St. Louis and St. Charles County. These include Nia Rose Holdings LLC, Brian 364 Junction LLC, Prairie Encore, Kelco and Wildwood Luxury Apartments. According to internet sources, Nad Mia Rose hold Mia Rose Holdings also owns properties in other states as well. According to various sources including St. Charles County Assessor Cayman has used taxable industrial revenue bonds to funds projects for years in St. Charles County including Dardian Prairie. Again, tax abatement, especially apartments, allow the potential of bringing in new students to a district without the necessary tax revenue funding to educate them. In 2023, Yahoo Finance reported that Moody's downgraded the Fort Zumwalt School District, thus making any loans necessary for improvements in the district more expensive. The Wentzville School Advocacy Group, Wentzville K12 Diligent, posted a copy of a contribution agreement involving Cayman/Mia Rose, Dardine Prairie, and Wentzville School District on their website. This document shows the city of Dardine Prairie issued several taxable industrial revenue bonds for the Brian 364 junction complex in 2021 in the amount of $60 million for their Prairie Encore bonds and another 68 million in early 2023 for the Encore project bonds with Kelco. Page three, section six of

this agreement indicates that the developer will agree to pay quote additional contributions with respect to requests for real property tax abatement for any future projects located within the district. And section seven indicates that they're doing this to quote withdraw any threats of litigation by the district relating to the projects and bonds and wave any claims in the district the district may have against the city the developers or the projects. So clearly the district was adversely affected even if you can somehow get behind behind the legality of issuing a chapter 100 industrial bond in this circumstance. the morality of using taxpayer money to fund a rich developer. The reality is there are adverse effects of not having a residential developer pay their full share of taxes to fund our schools.

30 seconds. Oh, thank you. Okay, thanks again. Okay, next speaker,

Joe Crawford, Turnberry Place. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, council members, for hearing our word. And thank you, Elsa, for your service to Wildwood. We appreciate that. I think Lauren and and Bridget have have really stated a lot of the feelings of the neighborhood um and how we don't want the uh limited access reopened. Uh I stood nearly in the same place in 2009 and spoke about the same thing when the council at that time uh uh when a gate was brought up before and the council went to open the road in that time frame. And we we uh the presentation that was uh presented at that time gave a lot of data as to why the why the access limitation is the correct answer for Turnberry Place. And it was it was uh voted and also revoted in 2000. Voted to close in '96. Voted to reclo or maintain its closure in 2009. And we believe in 2025 the same action should happen. We believe I also remember that a lot of the discussion was new developers coming into the city asking for gates for their private or or their communities that they're doing and it was a very big nuisance for this council for all those developers to talk them down to talk them out of it because we don't like uh gates. This isn't a gate. It's a limited access. It will make our neighborhood less safe. And I guess I'd ask, we just don't understand why opening it will make Turnberry a more safe place. I'd ask you to ask that. And I and also the

the 2009 council gave us a good chance to defend the idea of opening the the limited access. And I feel like this time uh with the June and July meetings, how the things were presented that we didn't really get a fair chance to to give our mind before the the legislation's already done. And so I believe we still get should get another chance to to have that discussion in a in a fair way. So thank you. Thank you. The next speaker, Liz Zizer, Turnberry Place.

Good evening, Liz Zizer. Ward 2. Um, I assume you know exactly what I'm up here to say. I know, uh, my fellow neighbors have done a great job, um, already kind of presenting our case. Um, I still would like to address the recent conversation regarding opening our neighborhood to non-emergency vehicles. Um, this puts the safety of our children, our neighbors, and everyone who uses our street at serious risk. Drivers cutting through are not our neighbors. They're strangers focused on saving time, not on the people who live here. That shift brings higher speeds, less attention, and more danger to those of us who walk, bike, or simply back out of our own driveways. We already see the challenges that come from non-residents driving through. Delivery drivers frequently speed, roll through stop signs, and cut corners without regard for the families who live here. If our street were opened to non-emergency vehicles, that reckless behavior would no longer be occasional. It would become constant. Our neighborhood also has two steep hills that naturally encourage drivers to pick up speed. Adding more cars would invite more unfamiliar driver drivers barreling down those hills magnifying risks we already struggle with creating dangerous situations. Beyond the numbers, the impact is deeply personal. Residents begin to feel unsafe letting their kids walk to a friend's house. Dog owners hesitate to cross the street. Neighbors avoid gathering outside. Through traffic doesn't just bring more cars. It takes away the sense of safety and community that make Wildwood's neighborhoods so special. Opening our street would prioritize convenience for non-residents over the safety and well-being of the people who actually live there. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, next speaker,

Ray Higgins, the Wildwood Apartment Complex. Mr. Mayor and uh councel, thank you for letting me come up here and have say a few words today. I'm here basically uh talking about the section 100. I believe that it's been called. Um Lynn Link just did a wonderful job of presenting that to you a few minutes ago. Um, I'm calling it the 188 apartment complex that uh is slated to possibly be considered by the council. I'm here to hopefully appeal to you guys that uh I would personally and my wife and I, family, my daughter lives in Wildwood, my son-in-law, my kids, grandkids, um that you would oppose this from happening. Um the way I see it as a resident here for over a decade um there would be many more vehicles coming to Wildwood obviously at the apartment complex would be affected. Uh Wildwood has always kind of prided itself also at some directions is uh keeping pollution down and other things in the green agenda and and this uh certainly adding more vehicles in town here in particular would not necessarily uh assist that in happening. Um, do you guys know the impact it would have on, you know, with the residents who would belong there or live there um on the fire or the police departments? Just a question. You don't need to ask give me an answer on that. But, um, I'm looking at it. I have a a letter here also, which is the letter that you guys have published from, um, it is from the superintendent um, Dr.

Kane from the Wildwood School District, which I have grandchildren who attend right up here at Pond. And we've already got a development in progress right across the street from Pond is as I'm sure you're all well aware of adding more residents and school children. I think Miss Link brought that to the attention. And as Dr. Kane points out here, the problem with uh chapter 100 structure is that the school districts receive no new operating revenue to support them or support the children who would possibly be going to the schools right around the corner. Um he also states out that uh that they were concerned with the long-term cost to taxing districts corresponding to benefit the developers that are frequently understated by the project analysis in which they originally presented to you the uh company who's wanting to build this here at it. Um, the developer also, as Miss Link pointed out, has over a hundred other residential developments, including some in the Rockwood School District, which Dr. Kaine points that out. So, I am here just to say that uh I would hope that you will give this very serious consideration for us in Wildwood. This is a wonderful community. We are we were many years before in Ellisville and we are look forward on on our years of moving here and u and enjoy Wildwood. We live on a few acres and and it's a great community. You guys are doing a great job in keeping it that way and as the police department are and uh we want to keep it that way for the future. Anyway, thank you for hearing me.

Thank you. Next speaker,

Jean Vedbig, Chapter 100, Jean Vadvig, 16709 Clayton Road, Ward 4. Um, the reason I'm here tonight is the uh luxury apartments. And um first I would like to make a comment here. This very city hall that you're sitting in was approved for by the voters, the citizens of Wildwood. It was paid for by the citizens of Wildwood using taxpayer dollars. The city paid the cost. They did not take any taxes from any other district or political subdivision. The tax dollars that are being discussed with this chapter 100 are not really yours to give away. They belong to the citizens. The voters of Wildwood should decide. This may not be required to go to a voter approval, but as a representative of Wildwood, you're obligated to seek voter approval. If this is approved as it is, it will have ser serious deliberate impact on other taxing districts. First of course comes to mind to the 2 million to the school district at a time when they are facing funding challenges which come back to the taxpayers. Eventually it comes all circle back right back to us and to you. The Metropolitan Sewer District will be impacted. Love them or not, they're necessary and we all just received an increase. Many other districts depend on the taxes you will affect.

It is insulting and painful to think Wildwood must give away taxes for a forprofit developer. We have never been a desperate community. If you think about it, we can we are barely kissing 30 years old. We have our own city hall. We have a good police force, a remarkable fire district. We have our own community park, many other city parks, not one but two major grocery stores, a movie theater, a hotel. We're home to Babler and Rockwood reservations, many locally lo schools, very convenient for our residents. We have ample schools. We are a growing community and we have a community college. Who would think that we would have a community college, a YMCA? I've lost count of the houses of worship. We have one of the largest and best trail systems in the state. We have the village green which you're touting over here. We have our own public parking garage. If this was a quality such a quality envelopment development, let them go forward. Follow the town center plan. Not give them six stories high either and have them pay for it. You pay for everything you do at your own home. We in this city have always paid all of our bills. Wildwood has always been lean and we have been fiscally responsible. We don't have to go to other places and ask for money and we don't want to start that either. The city deserves a project that follows the town center guidelines so the residents the residents will know what to expect. They deserve a developer who can fund his own project. Wildwood

is a thoughtful, wellplanned, prominent community. Why do you feel I would like answers to these questions. Why do you feel the need to guarantee these bonds? And what will you do if the developer fails? What will you do? Wildwood is a premier solid community and we should demonstrate that in our execution of our responsibilities of this city. I really want to thank you and I want to thank those who listen to me and please take my comments to heart. I respect all of you and I respect this community. Again, we're barely kissing 30 and we should be celebrating all of those assets. We're not a desperate community. Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you. Uh, next speaker,

Tony Salvatore, Ordinance 30005. Well, looks like people before me kind of spoke pretty well of uh about bill number 30005, which is which is Wildwood, Missouri, issuing a taxable industrial revenue balance to Wildwood Luxury Living LLC, which is worth zero uh to in the amount of $52,500. $100,000. Here's a quote. As we already heard uh from Lane Link, industrial revenue bonds are for cities and counties can purchase or construct certain types of projects such as warehouses, distribution facilities, and industrial plants with bond proceeds to then lease or sell to a company. These are going to be apartments. They're going to go for a minimum of $2,400 a month. one, two, and three bedrooms, 188 apartments. They're probably going to average a minimum of 80 to 90 school children going to be in those apartments. Why are we giving corporate welfare to to our to these big corporations who have LLC's and you you can go ahead go online and in 10 minutes you could do an LLC. It's not worth anything. It's just paper. Anytime they do a development they do an LLC. So that if that LLC goes ahead and

encounters problems of any kind, they will go ahead and file bankruptcy. It does not affect the main company. It doesn't cost them a nickel. And how how are you guaranteed that they're going to pay you back? It's an LLC worth zero. Zero. Now, I talked to my one of my uh W 2 council people and I told him, you know, that the city is giving is going to go ahead and float bonds for this LLC. He says, "No, no, no. They're going to go ahead and set set a uh they're going to do a uh a bond so that they can go ahead and guarantee the for the construction of it." I said, "No, no. Even they don't you all didn't know this last time. What was all involved? Here it is. This is 189 pages and there's more more that wasn't in here. At least another 60 pages. So you got about 245 to 250 pages to read. Did you read them? Any of you all read them? Every single single part. All right. Okay. The city of WS is issued these taxable industrial revenue put in the principal amount of 52.5 for purpose of providing funds to pay construct pay construction of acquiring constructing industrial development project. Now section two of page one in this right here. So the city is hereby authorized to provide for the purchase and construction of the project. So the city is going to go ahead and do this project. Ah there's more to it. bill tech. They're going to go ahead and do a lease. They're going to take they're going to get $52.5 million bond and pro promptly give it to a company that's worth zero.

Okay. It's going to be it's just this company is worth is is just an LLC. It's worth nothing. It's Wildwood Luxury Living LLC. Limited Liability Corporation. All right. And meanwhile, we're going to give them we're going to give them $52.5 million additionally tax abatements. No property taxes except for the fire district. We'll get 100%. For 10 years, property taxes for schools 0 to 5 years is zero for 5 years and 50% from years 6 through 10. Additionally, when the city b goes ahead and floats a bond issue, in this case, it's going to be a much lower interest rate. This will be around 5%. Four, 5%. If if this company, which is worth zero, goes out to a bank and says, "I want a $52 million loan." Now, they're worth zero. They're going to say, "We're not going to give it to you." or if they go ahead and back it somehow, they're going to save a minimum of 12%. Minimum, if even that. So, they're going to get a they're going to save a tremendous amount of money.

I mean, 10 more seconds. Can you 10 more? Okay. Just can you give me another an extra 10? All right, we'll let you wrap. That's fine. Thank you. Okay. They're going to have much lower interest payments on bonds versus private construction. $4 to5 million savings. No sales tax. At least 4 million 8%. No, no sales tax at all. no sales tax in any of their construction equipment, anything. So, they're going to save another four million bucks. Read the definition of industrial revenue bonds, people, and they're going to go ahead schools zero. They're going to they're going to go ahead and cost at least $5 million savings to them that they're not going to pay into the schools. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. You know, this this is this is a monstrosity. That's it. Times up.

Time's up now. Thank you. All right. Next speaker, Tom Cayman, Chapter 100.

Hi, Tom Kyman. Mia Rose Holdings, founder, um, developer for Wildwood Luxury Living, worth0. Um, I do appreciate the comments from the public. There's there's certainly some misunderstanding. Uh, I wish that you all approved a $52 million bond and we received $52 million. Unfortunately, you all know and you we've talked about it. It's just not how this works. Um I do appreciate the the commentary. I am proud of our resume. Um if you look us up anywhere, you will find uh no lawsuits, no legal issues, no complaints. Um pretty pretty clean for a developer that's been doing this for 10 years. And we do own that number of LLC's. Um, but I think as you guys know, an LLC may be worth nothing, but we have to personally guarantee the debt with our bank in order to receive funds to actually do this project. So, and I think you guys know, we've talked about it in the in the in the in the meetings, uh, you know, it's a $50 million development. I'm personally guaranteeing that 50 million. We're personally putting in 15 million of hard equity invested into the city to activate uh, and create a luxury project here. So, um, you know, I I think I think we hit on something in the last, um, work session, the extraordinary cost. So, I appreciate the dialogue that we've I think that was a kind of a a lesson learned as we kind of go through this. There are extraordinary costs. Um, I think today we're sitting at about 5.6 million of extraordinary costs. If you look at the net present value of what we're requesting, um, we're offsetting about 2.8 million of that. So it's about 5.6% of the total project costs. So um and I think I hope I hope we've done an effective job of communicating what those extraordinary costs are um which are which are not typical for other projects of this this scale and this

nature. So um I am here to answer any questions if we're getting into any dialogue happy to do that. Our legal team's here, construction teams here. Um, I also I think it's it was great commentary for the for the uh um you know, we're actually sitting in a uh uh city hall of which the Greenberg family actually donated the ground uh for this facility to be built. So, I'm glad she brought it up like who who funded uh the construction, but our our family partners are the ones that donated the ground. Um, furthermore, I think, you know, we're also donating 2 acres to the city for for uh public use, the pickle ball future pickle ball courts, things of that nature, which I think's that's that's a pretty substantial uh donation. Um, and then the bond issuance fee, I think we talked about that last time that the city is uh collecting, which is which is great. So, um, overall uh really looking forward to the uh the Wildwood celebration on the 20th. Uh I think we've agreed that we would not start construction before that. So um you know that's going to be great. Get that get that celebration done. Uh we are looking to start around October 1st. So I think we're under tight guidelines. I think the chapter 100's very specific about when we need to be pouring foundations, when we need to start executing. So um I was a little um uh I don't know disappointed that we didn't get the two readings done cuz you know time kills deals. So, as we kind of continue to expand this thing out, you know, I I went and talked to our bank right away and I'm like, "Hey, we didn't get the two readings, you know, need need this to happen. Uh, you know, we work with us." They did. Um, the family still um, you know, committed to the equity. So, uh, we're we're here. Um, we're still looking forward to being a long-term partner with the city. So, appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you. Uh, any any more speakers? Okay. So um it looks like we may have just one speaker online. So therefore uh there is the raise hand feature and if you do wish to speak uh please just state your name and word number. Again we ask that you keep it uh up to 5 minutes. Can you hear me? Hello. Okay.

Yes, we can hear you.

Okay. This is Larry Bro, Ward One. And uh I'll be pretty brief. I do think when uh Council Member Alenberg said at the beginning, maybe there could be some summary uh maybe to avoid some misunderstanding, but but some of the comments tonight structure I I know are not correct. Um and and I assume that can be addressed. But my main point is that I believe this development is uh very important for uh the life of Wildwood. You know, particularly the town center. Um you know, population has not grown. Uh businesses, I would say, in our community are not thriving. I I understand maybe a a restaurant just recently closed. Um and this project as well as hopefully getting Main Street developed out to 109 done. You know, whether you want to get real specific or not, but in general, that's been the plan that's been in place for 25 years. And I really do hope that that we make the decision to assist this project, not because they need it, but that I think Wildwood needs it for really for our town center to start to become the place that it was envisioned to be. And that's a walkable area with restaurants and shops and people. Um, I'll just ask everybody when they leave tonight, go over to the parking garage

and count how many empty spaces there are there. Walk down Main Street and count how many empty parking spots there are. I mean, Wildwood needs people or the town center is just not going to ever be uh a thriving part of what is otherwise a great city. So that's my comments and um thank you very much.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Do we have any more speakers? All right. So therefore at this point then uh we'll conclude public participation and I know that um council member you had mentioned maybe addressing some items but I I think you know it's very likely to just get into discussion and probably just we'll hold it to the bill. I mean, if certainly if it's something you want to have the bill uh if it's in the interest of the council to have the bill addressed now at this time, uh I'll certainly entertain that if there's interest to move it up. Uh but um you know, I think at this point, you know, we'll continue.

No, that's fine. Um whenever we have the um discussion of the bill, um I can um ask maybe that those clarifications be made at that time. Okay. All right. Great. Uh so now uh we have oh council member Dodwell just real quickly is it possible to make a motion at this point to move the bill up into public or into our second readings or do we wait until that section? I will uh defer our city attorney but I believe that we've done where we've changed the order of the agenda. If there's if I missed that apologize if there is a motion and it passes we can certainly do that. So it would be uh some city attorney.

Yeah. If the council would like to take this this item out of order, that's by motion second and a vote. It certainly can do that. Okay. Do you wish to do that? Yes, sir. Okay. So, your motion is to change the order and uh the agenda and move bill 30005 uh next. Okay. And then council member Attenburg, your second. So, we have a motion to change the order of the agenda. Let's see if we can do this with a voice vote. All those in favor, please say I. I. Anyone opposed or abstain?

We have one oppose. Uh therefore, the motion does pass. So, we'll change the order to move into bill 30005. So, okay. So, we have bill 30005 before the council. Is there a motion for a second reading of the bill? No, public participation is is uh Oh, public hearing, but we got to come back to that. Yeah, we'll come back to that.

Yeah. And at this time, uh I feel at least I I don't see do we have anybody that wish to speak on that item or Okay, one speaker. So, um I'll look to see if the council wishes to proceed with the 30005 as we did with the motion and then we'll come back to the regular order of the agenda which will be the public hearing and then for that other item that's a little confused. So, uh we're going to have a discussion amongst the council. Correct. We're going to go right into bill. Okay. Because I want to make my comments.

Yes. Bill 30005. So, is there a motion for a second reading of the bill of bill 30005? That's the one that we move now to the agenda. Okay. So, you made a motion. Is there a second on the second by council member Attenburg? All those in favor, please say I. I. I.

All right. So, we have bill 30. Oh, yes. All right. Anybody opposed with the second reading of bill 30005 or FC? Okay, we have one oppose. Uh so therefore at this point we'll move forward with the second reading of bill 30005 before the council for second reading concerning uh awards. Um so Colleen, please go ahead and read the bill.

Bill 30005, an ordinance authorizing the city of Wildwood, Missouri to issue its taxable industrial revenue bonds. Wildwood Luxury Living LLC project series 2025 in a principal amount not to exceed $52,500,000 for the purpose of providing funds to pay the costs of acquiring, constructing, and improving a facility for an industrial development project in the city. Approving a plan for the project, and authorizing certain actions and agreements in connection therewith.

All right, thank you for that. So, we do have bill 30005 before the council. At this time, if there's any discussion, this would be a time. Council member CR, um, I got a question and I I want to make my comments. Um, did Nia Rose ever disclose the amount of their profits they're going to make during that 10-year tax abatement? That was not uh, no, they didn't. And we did ask them, correct? We did request it. failed to disclose their profits. They did not disclose the exact amount they're willing to make.

I'm going to give you my concerns and comments. Oh, my glasses. I'm against the property tax abatement in this bill because it takes funding from the Rockwood School District. Rockwood School District letter to the city sent a warning about chapter 100 and that is my concern. Mia Rose Holdings has other chapter 100 developments in the school district with more to come and Dr. Kaine advises Wildwood to use caution and to recognize Chapter 100 can hurt the community financially. Recent example in April Eureka passed a chapter 100 for an Aldi store. Aldi is a $50 billion corporation and as a result Rockwell Rockwood school district will lose $40,000 a year for the next 20 years. Total loss of $800,000 for the schools, but a big victory for Aldi. Over the time, Chapter 100 will be chipping away revenue from Rockwood School District. Eventually, the citizens, you and I, will have to make up the difference created by Chapter 100. Chapter 100 also robs other taxing districts of their tax dollars, which by the way provide services to Wildwood residents and to the city of Wildwood. These services are county park maintenance, county roads and bridges, special school district, St. Louis Community College, MST, the zoo, museums, and libraries. All will lose money if Chapter 100 is approved. As an elected official, I will never support a bill that takes funding away from our schools. It's not

in my DNA. School funding should always be first, developer tax breaks last. And finally, I just want the public to know that Rockwood School District stands to lose $1.6 million of tax revenue to these developers. Council passes this bill tonight. $1.6 million at a time when the school board just announced a proposition on the November 4th ballot to raise your property taxes. In an effort to protect Rockwood School District from losing 1.6 6 million. I will make a motion to amend this bill to remove the property tax abatement. I've made my motion.

So, you've made a motion. Uh, and there's there second on a motion I made by Council Member McCutchen. So, now we have the motion on the floor for discussion if there is any. Otherwise, then we'll vote on the motion with the amend the just the amendment piece. Then we'll come back to the second reading. Any discussion at this time regarding that? So all just just uh go ahead council. Yeah, go ahead. You I'm sorry. Um so voting on this amendment then we're still going to have time to come back and make comments regarding the whole development.

Yes. Right now the amendment's on the floor and then the amendment uh were to pass then it would be back to the main second reading and we will still be able to make comments. Yes. Thank you. All right. Yeah. Uh city attorney has a question. Council, just as a clarifying, when you say the abatement, we're talking about the real property abatement, not the sales tax. Correct. I I'll go along with the sales and use tax, which is about what, a million dollars. I mean, I'll compromise with that. I'm just wanting to protect the schools and these other taxing districts from losing their income for 10 years.

All right. Again, the amendment on the floor, Council Member Gillan. Yeah. And speaking in regards to um the schools losing, I keep hearing the word losing and stealing and all kinds of adjectives that are just factually inaccurate. Um uh city administrator Lee, will you please confirm for us what the current tax liability on that property is today? Yeah, it is $1,947 and the school district gets about 50% of that. Right. But 1,00 how much again? When you take in the project site as a whole, it's $1,947 for let's just say $2,000 to round it to to give a little extra. That's per year, right? That is annually.

So over the course of the next 10 years, this the Rockwood School District and all the other taxing districts are are scheduled to receive about $20,000 in total gross tax revenue from that property. Correct. That is correct. if it's undeveloped. And if this abatement is passed and the developer gets the 10-year abatement, they still pay Metro West and the first five years they pay nothing. The second five years they pay 50%. And is it true that the 50% tax that they'll pay over the second five years is a little over 200,000 a year? Yeah, it's correct.

Right. Which is over a million dollars. So over the course of 10 years, the taxing districts will receive over a million dollars in taxes. If this doesn't go through and this project dies tonight, these same taxing districts will receive about $20,000 over that same period of time. So, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around where this whole we're losing money, we're stealing money. I mean, this project is infusing over a million dollars of tax revenue into the schools and the taxing districts over that 10-year period with the abatement included. So, it's math, guys. It's like you can't fix the numbers and claim that something is what it isn't. So, you know, once again, aside from the fact that this will bring more people to the city, vibrancy, economic activity, you know, one thing I'll bring up really quick, which we didn't talk about at the last meeting, is the fact that we have four vacant bank buildings in Wildwood. Okay? If you look around Ellisville, Chesterfield, Eureka, these other municipalities, banks are going up all over the place. Guess what? Banks go where there's people and economic activity. Banks close where economic activity and population are declining or remaining stagnant. So, you know, we've got a problem here. And this is the heart of downtown. And once again, the viability and merit of this project aren't up for debate tonight. So, talking about whether they'll fill the apartments or what kind of stores and restaurants, that's not part of the conversation. It's strictly based on the tax abatement. And once again, it's dollars and cents. This abatement doesn't cost the city of Wildwood a single penny. It infuses a significant amount of additional tax revenue into these exact taxing districts that we're talking about and it's not going to raise property taxes on any residents of Wildwood like I've heard claimed online and in other forums. Um that's just simple simply speculation with no merit attached to

it. So property taxes may or may not go up regardless of of this development or anything else. And similarly with real estate taxes. So once again, it's I'm having a hard time, you know, embracing these these arguments about the schools and the children. I'm all for the schools and the children and the taxing districts receiving what they need, but at the end of the day, there is no tax liability on that property outside of the $2,000 a year that's currently being paid. And if this development doesn't happen, that's not going to change. that $2,000 is going to remain intact and that's what they're going to pay on that property moving forward. So to claim otherwise is simply factually inaccurate once again. So uh anyway, that's all I got. All right. Uh any other speakers? Council member Dodwell and then Council Member Trot here.

Okay, we'll put you on the list. Go ahead, Council Member Dodwell. We've talked about this a lot. I appreciate what uh Council Member Gallioni just said. Um I also appreciate what the residents have said, but I'm concerned uh that the communication hasn't been very clear on what we're talking about here. Um we are looking at how to keep Town Center viable. We are looking for a development that is profitable for the developer. We're looking for a development that brings people into the city town center. This whole town center has been designed on having an increased number of individuals in it. I do not understand why that concept seems so foreign to everyone u who has commented on this particular project. I will be voting for this project in order to quickly and swiftly get this development moving forward. If we don't do that, then everything in Town Center, except maybe the Deerberg because everybody needs groceries, is going to close. We've watched business after business start in Town Center and then close. Start in Town Center because all of you are going to Chesterfield, Eureka to get your goods. uh we want you to come to town center and enjoy a good meal, see a movie, buy your groceries, etc. And if we don't start implementing things that are going to allow for that, the city council has had a great discussion on this chapter 100

component, um I think we have come to an agreement that is going to benefit the residents, the city and also the developer. I think it's incumbent upon us as a city council to be able to get into agreements that provide that collaborative methodology for enhancing our town center and other parts of our city. I don't expect that we're going to be using this tool ad nauseium. I don't expect that we're going to drop the ball on every developer that might walk in the door and say, "Hey, I'd like to do this." Everyone here on this deis probably knows uh and if not uh will learn that we don't handle any development lightly and this particular developer has been going through this process now for two years. Uh so I think he's done his due diligence. I think the city's done due diligence and I will be voting for this tonight.

All right. Uh thank you. And next will be council member Troier. Just a reminder that we have the amendment on the floor. So, let's focus comments specifically to the amendment which is related to the abatement. Uh, council member then I with I'll withdraw my uh you can come back once once we conclude with the uh amendment discussion and vote. Uh, council member Crayons.

Yeah, I do have one question. Um, rebuttal. Uh, Council Member Gilliani, when we vote on this bill tonight, if it passes, the school district will lose $1.6 million. Is that correct? If you if we vote tonight, there's $1.6 million that will go to those developers. Correct. They They get what? They're supposed to get $2 million over 10 years, and they're going to get half a million if the development gets built. Yes. If it gets built, I'm saying if you pass it tonight, they lose the money.

No, no, not exactly. If if it gets built and then the terms of the agreement are honored. Wait, wait. If you pass the bill tonight, they're going to get the tax property abatement. And the the terms are that they get it's $2 million over 10 years they're entitled to if if the developer pays his taxes. So they're going to pay the last 5 years and that totals a half a million dollars. So basically they're losing 1.5 1.6 million if this bill passes tonight. If they if this bill passes just for structural item they would have to construct the the actual development. I I get that. But if we vote on it, they lose the money. That's all I'm saying.

If it's built Yeah. Correct. And it and by the way, $52 million, it will be built. it will be built. So, we're being hoodwinkedked and uh we had latitude N38 wasn't going to build. Uh they could have built back in March uh if they wanted to last minute. We want this tax abatement now. So, we need to be aware. All right. Uh thank you. Next, Council Member McCutchen. Okay. And then Council Member Delani,

a final point, a rebuttal to his rebuttal. Um, at the end of the day, and I'll I'll let city administrator Lee confirm this. Will the taxing districts, including Rockwood School District and the rest of the taxing districts, receive less, the same, or more tax revenue over the 10-year period with the abatement or without? If it's built with the abatement?

With the abatement. Correct. That's correct. So, nobody's losing anything. Nothing's been stolen. It's created tax revenue. And part of that over that 10-year period is being credited back to the developer to assist in the development. But even with the abatement in place, there's over a million dollar in additional tax revenue going to all the districts that will not be there and no one will get anything of if this project doesn't happen. Thanks. Anyone else on the amendment on the floor? Otherwise, we'll take a vote and I'll ask Colleen to reread the amendment that you're voting on here. So, again, this this is just the amendment piece. Uh I don't see any other hands. Oh, council member Mry.

Very detailed manner. um reiterate exactly what the amendment uh is up for vote and explain what it does if it passes and what it doesn't do if it doesn't pass. Okay. Well, I'll ask Colleen to read what she has and then you can certainly uh ask the city attorney to explain what happens if it passes or it doesn't. Go ahead, Colleen. I recorded the motion to to amend the bill to remove the property tax abatement from the bill. Okay. So, Colleen said that the uh amendment is to remove the property tax abatement. Um so, uh city attorney, you want to go ahead?

Yeah. Just for clarification as I understand the motion and I've confirmed with council member crayons is that he's put right now under the agreement uh under what before you in bill 30005 are two items effectively a property tax abatement 50% for 5 years or 100% for 5 years 50% for the remainder. He is proposing to remove all of those abatements so full amounts of real property taxes would be paid during that 10-year period. The developer would however still get the sales tax exemption on the purchase of construction materials.

Okay. So, uh therefore, uh seeing no other hands up, uh like would probably be best we'll just do a roll call just for clarity. So, Council Member Dodwell, excuse me, Council Member Farmer. Council member Dodwell, no. Council member Nyan, no. Council member Utenberg, no. Council member Tradier, yes. Council member Mabberry, no. Council member Rablooski, no. Council member Preston, no. Council member Marshall, Council Member McCutchen, yes. Council member Rambo, Council Member Bockart, he's not here. Council member Crayons, Council Member Vanic,

yes. Council member Alers. Council member Galani. No. And uh Council Member Preston, just for the record, we didn't hear you too clearly. If you don't mind unmuting and just state your vote. No. Okay. What's the number then? 10.

Okay. Okay. So, the amendment fails. Now we're back to the main uh the second reading that we have before us. So again, open for discussion uh regarding the second reading. All right, council member Tai. So one point of clarity and and I'll be clear, I am prodevelopment. I think development within the city of Wildwood is important to address uh council member Galani's point. I Oh, can you hear me? Okay. To address council member Galani's point, the property as exists today has no residents. Therefore, the taxing districts are not incurring a burden. If the development proceeds, you're going to have 200 to 400 residents of which these taxing districts will need to support. So, a question to you, um, Mr. Lee, have we conducted an evaluation on what burden these residents will place on the various taxing districts? And if so, can that be um represented?

From our uh from our look at it, it can support with the pilot payments about five students. Uh the school district uh in their letter had claimed that there would be 32 students. There's probably a middle ground in between. Um that said, we have not conducted a full-on analysis like a demographic study of what the makeup would be. The developer has provided some information from their other um developments that typically are around zero anywhere between zero to about six or seven children within each school age children within each uh development. There there is no um there is no tax received by Rockwood years zero through five. Correct.

That is correct. So you're saying the tax revenue received years 6 through 10 would be able to cover support five students would be able to support five students for the course of 10 years. Over the course of 10 years. Thank you. Yep.

Do we have uh anyone else? Council member Tri, Council Member McCutchen. So, first and foremost, I was elected to represent the people and I've been diligent about that. And I have heard from many residents, emails, telephone calls out and about they do not want this development to go forward because they do not want to use chapter 100 funds. part part of everybody says, "Well, more residents, more economic development." That's not necessarily true. This town center would thrive if we would offer them what it is they need and want. We did a master plan update committee um survey with 750 people responding. what they want is a recreation center, familyfriendly activities, family restaurants that don't break the bank to go out to dinner. If we would give residents what they want, then they're going to come to Town Center. It's not going to make any difference if we have 188 people in this development. If we keep stacking houses from here to Wildwood Middle School, that doesn't make any difference. If we don't give them what they want, then they're not going to come here. One of the big items that they're wanting is a recreation center. If you bring give a recreation center, you bring the residents in and they access that recreation center, then they're going to be able to access whatever else is in town center. But you're going to have to give the residents what they want. What they don't want is to give a chapter 100. And you can debate all you want, but it is going to impact the schools, no doubt.

um you know the residents want less density they don't want tall structures um and that came from the survey so I this this res well before I start that um Mr. Mr. Cohen's been a member of this community for a long time. Yes, he's done many things for the city of Wildwood. That doesn't apply here. We're talking about giving money for a development that could go elsewhere in our community and that has been going elsewhere in our community and it has not been negative because it's going elsewhere in our community. And I'm sure when he donated the land for this or when he lets us use the the center over here where they're going to build the development, I bet he can write it off in taxes. It's not like it's a freebie. I mean, for us it may be, but he also gets a tax deferment for it. We are we the pickle ball court. We're leasing that property from him. It's not a gift. We're going to be leasing it. um and what he has or hasn't done for this community is not reveling here. That's not what we're talking about. You know, there's already been exceptions to this development. You know, um they're getting one and a half parking spaces instead of two. They're getting six stories instead of three. The parking is going to be allowed on the street in the city's parking garage and in the Wildwood Theater parking lot because there are not enough parking spaces contained within the development. The 188 apartments are going to have more than one person in them. So, at least two. So, they're not even paying for the parking spaces that they are going to take up. And then it's going to

I don't know double triple our traffic which residents are already complaining about. You know there's no guarantee that the apartments are going to be rented um by whatever day. I did some research and um Mia Rose LLC has not had its apartments completely full. Some of those apartment complexes are almost vacant, but out of 13 that I found, there are 627 apartments that are vacant. So, we have no guarantee that when we build this development, if we go forward, that those apartments are going to be full. We don't have a guarantee. We they we do he has other tax abatements from Chapter 100 within Rockwood. So, it's not just $2 million we're losing. It's x number of how many ever chapter 100s there are in the school districts. We have um you know other services that if we provide them then you're going to get people to town center. So, I really don't understand the the theory that oh build more houses and it's going to make Town Center thrive. You got to give the people what they want. I um also looked up um the the number of students that are in Rockwood School District and there is two 20,000 and well about 21,000. Rockwood school district's getting ready to come with a bond issue. They couldn't pay their teachers a pay raise because they didn't have the funds. they um are giving up special ed classrooms and putting those children's back in typical classrooms because they

don't have the funds to keep the special ed classes going now $1,000 now but for 10 years they're going to not get funding. They're not and they have to have funding. You know it is our job as citizens not only of Wildwood but of the United States to have an educated population. We need that for all kinds of reasons, for all kinds of jobs, you know, for a a good productive life. We need residents. Well, the federal government's decreased funding. The state has decreased funding. And now we're being asked to do a chapter 100, not just one in the school district, but two or three in the school district. So, how are we going to educate our students? And I am not going to apologize for any of this because the bottom line for a development is not worth more than educating our children.

Okay. Thank you. Uh do we have any speakers? Council member Alers. rebuttal. You're using up your rebuttals, but you can go. How many do I get?

Two. So what it came out in the survey and what I've heard from residents as well is the YMCA does not provide the same services that a recreation center would. The recreation center would also bring people into town center. The YMCA does not necessarily bring it into this portion of town center. Um it would offer a place for our children to go and activities for them. I don't know about you, but I see the kids running around the shopping area up here up and down our streets. Um, I saw one kid fall with a bicycle the other day because they don't have anywhere to go to be social or to do productive um, entertainment for the kids. It can also be used for families to come. It can have a room for counseling and for community meetings. Those are not things the YMCA does. that would be totally different than what the YMCA currently has. And besides that, it's what the residents want. We're elected to give them what they're asking us for if it is possible economically. We're elected to represent them. They're the people. It's their community. It's their city. And if they are overwhelmingly say, "Don't do this or do this," we really need to listen to them. Okay, I've got uh Council Member Obleski and then Attenburg. Go ahead, Council Member Oleski.

Just a quick comment. This project has already been approved. So really tonight is about the chapter 100 piece of it. I'm all for development and for developing this apartment complex. But what I've heard strongly from the residents over the course of the last couple months is that they want to see it built. they just don't want to see a chapter 100 as a part of the process. Um, I live in Town Center. I walk to almost daily to Town Center. I think it would be a great addition. I just think it's the chapter 100 piece that's the sticking point for um my residents in M1. Thank you, Council Member Attenburg.

Um, yes, I just want to address a couple of comments that were made here tonight. One of the comments was made that there's no guarantee that the units in this proposed development will be rented out. I think that defies common sense. The developer in question here would not want to build this development in the first place if they didn't expect to rent these units. They've got a pretty successful track record at constructing successful projects. Uh secondly, there was a comment made that there's no guarantee that this development will help economic growth here in Wildwood. That also defies common sense because common sense tells you that if we get a couple of hundred new residents right here in the town center, they will conduct at least some of their business here in the city of Wildwood. Uh comment was made that we need to give the people what they want. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I knocked on 3,182 doors over the past couple of years talking to residents about what they want in this city. The number one thing they ask for more dining options, more entertainment options, more city services. In order to attract those city services here, we have to be able to demonstrate that we will have enough customers for their businesses. One thing I hear as the chairman of the economic development committee time and time again from our local businesses businesses is when is Wildwood going to get serious about economic development. And just as a reminder, when we talk about economic development, we're not talking about all throughout the city. We're not talking about outside of the city center. From the day this city was founded, our town center, which makes up about 800 acres, was meant to be highly developed with highdensity housing and businesses located here. We're not talking about going out into the rural

areas of the city and disrupting the rural character of this city. I live in a very nice subdivision up off of 109. The last thing I want to see is a lot of development up in that area, just like you don't want to see development in your subdivisions. We're not talking about doing that. We're talking about trying to further develop our town center, which is again is about 800 acres, which only makes up about 2% of our total land mass within the city. So, I will be voting yes on this project tonight or I should say on this application tonight. Uh, we have a couple of hands up. I see council member Vanic and then Galani.

Oh, great. to keep my comments short. I'm not going to presume to think that I have such an eloquent speech for you that you're going to change your mind. I'm sure that a lot of you have already made your decisions and you have very good reasons for your decisions and how you're going to vote. However, uh just to talk a little bit about uh Councilman Hotenberg's comments regarding I do not doubt for a second that you knocked on those doors. I do not doubt that the people told you what they said they did, but to dovetail off of uh uh Councilwoman Rabloo's statements, I'm sure you didn't include in your questions to them or your your queries to them that would you want would you want this development if it diminished the ability of the school district to obtain proper funding. Had you included that, I'm sure your responses would have been totally different. I I went to my community and extensively I uh went to um um elementary school opening day talking to parents. I've been to uh bus stops in the mornings. I've been talking to members of my de uh my development I live in. I have gotten you know when I went to to the people I presented it as um um down the down the middle as I possibly could as as far as I possibly could. I w I wasn't looking to influence their input to me at all. I expected

actually uh a much more you know uh what I got what I got from my uh community members were decisively decisively against the chapter 100 they're okay for the most part with the apartment complex that's not an issue with but the chapter 100 is an issue with them we have my ward and I I know that all wards are a little bit different, you know, but my ward has a lot of young families. They're worried about their schools. They're worried about the schools being funded properly. I have been direct I'd be committing political suicide. I might as well resign right now. If I voted yes or chapter 100, I have to vote no. I have to represent the people of my ward. That's all I have to say. Right. Thank you, Council Member Galani. And then I have Council Member.

Yeah, I'll keep this short. Um, I just wanted to respond to it was brought up earlier that this development would put a burden onto the Rockwood School District with additional students and less funding. Um, like we talked about over that 10-year period, there'll be a lot more tax than there would be if it wasn't. But when you talk about the possibility there could be up to 30 students, that's an estimate, number one. And number two, there's no reason to assume that all 30 of those students would attend the Rockwood School District either because there's plenty of private school options in Wildwood and surrounding communities that a lot of our kids, including mine, uh attend. So, um I I don't think it's fair to make that that uh insinuation. And then additionally, one thing in Wildwood is when we're talking about a development of any kind, I feel like we always sit here and and act like everything's got to be perfect from day one. And whenever you're working with a developer who's also a business uh owner, just like any other business that we would want to attract here in the city and and try to help out to to have success, this chapter 100 abatement process is a partnership that we're going into with a business owner that's coming to our city to make a massive investment in our downtown. And over the course of the long-term future, the taxing districts will be receiving dramatically more funding than they would if this project didn't happen, regardless of whether there's five students or 20 students. And it it's one of those things where long-term there's going to be a lot more the first five years. No, but once again, we don't know how many of those students how many students there will be in this development. Number one, and how many of those students would even be attending the public school district either. Thanks, All right, Council Member Rainbow.

Yeah, a couple points of uh clarification. First, when did this thing grow two stories? Did is it is it four stories? Yeah, but it's we've I've heard six a couple times and I I wasn't aware of that sixtory. Mr. context. Yeah, I was going to ask Director Vunage to provide clarity on the number of stories. I heard reference to six stories. Our tallest building right now in town center is the movie theater with five stories, I believe. So, could you tell us what the proper number of stories is in this proposal? The recent approved ordinance states a single fourstory mixeduse building. Okay. Thank you.

Um, Council Member Rambo still Yeah. Um, so Wildwood is not growing. uh we lost population just a few hundred people over the last 10 years um in the in the in the latest census as I as I recall. Is that is that an accurate statement? We had gained a couple hundred in the like going up to 2020 but when the census was taken in 2020 since then the Census Bureau's estimates have shown a loss of about three or 400.

Okay. Yeah, that's that's what I thought. So, um this development represents an important increase in foot traffic. Every little bit helps and um it may represent a couple of percent of highway traffic increase to the 30,000 25,000 30,000 vehicles we see on Highway 100. I don't think that's as big a concern spread out over the course of a day as um as we we might think. But the the I want to support what uh Mr. Galani has eloquently said. The tax picture is actually simple. This is additive. It's just math. And um they'll get no revenue or they'll get uh you know some revenue. Um Wildwood doesn't really do precedent. So I'm not concerned about that point whatsoever because we agonize over every decision that we make as a one-off and it's not going to this is not the camel's nose under the tent. And I'd be the first person to be concerned about that um uh if if it were the case. But um my my bottom line is Econ Dev beat this to death and support it. The PNZ beat this to death and they support it. We as council are beating it to death and and and we're you know a lot of us support it. Um, so my my final thought is I pay a lot I pay a lot of taxes and um I don't have any children, but I have historically voted in favor of just about every bond issue or other financial request from any school district I've ever been associated with my entire life because I believe in education. Everybody up here knows that. Um and um uh I favor this particular tax relief because it's not going to hurt the schools in my estimation at all and um it's going to help Wildwood a whole lot. So I I just wanted wanted to kind of uh put my my own stake in the ground. Thank you.

We have any other speak. Council member Attenburg.

Um yes. Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh I think we should also keep in mind regarding this development something that has been left uh not mentioned tonight and that this development provides the opportunity for incremental revenue the city that does not come out of the pockets of our existing residents. That incremental revenue will come from the incremental utility taxes that will be paid as residents move into this complex. Uh as everyone may know there's a 4.8% 8% utility tax that is charged on such things as natural gas. And as new residents move into this complex, that will result in incremental utility tax revenue. The other uh area for incremental tax revenue is from the transactions that the residents in this complex would conduct here in our city center with our city businesses. Again, that'll be two sources of incremental revenue that won't come out of the pockets of our existing residents.

Uh do we have any other speakers? All right, council member CR and then this is addressed to the attorney. I heard president mentioned and uh if you give it to one developer and you set a precedent, you may have to give it to another. Now in litigation um uh it all depends on who the the judge judge is, who the lawyers are. So there's no guarantee that this will not set a precedent because it goes through the the legal system. Is that correct? There is no basis for precedent for economic development tools. Okay. Thank you,

Council Member Alers. All right. Um we do have a call of questions. So in order uh uh well first I'll see if there's any objection to the call the question. If there isn't then we can proceed with the vote. I don't see any objection then. Are you have an objection? All right. Well since he called the question either uh we can check to see I think you need what 2/3 majority. All right then count if you're the only speaker left then yeah go ahead. Um, so Joe, is the four stories apartments? Does that is that counting the retail space below and then the green space on top?

Yes, ma'am. It's a collective. The first floor is the commercial component plus the administrative functions of the apartment complex and then three stories of the apartments themselves. They have a notch out for the patio that's part of the key point architectural feature at Taylor Road and Main Street. So, did this actually change from six stories to four stories? Because I know before it was discussed at six.

Um, I do not recall that. I missed this the earlier tonight on the traffic impact analysis, but I don't remember this ever being a six-story building. Prime Place was five because they were offering a different type unit, a larger unit and wanted that fifth story to accommodate increased cost.

Thank you for the clarification. And I the only two other things, Town Center goes out all the way out to Wildwood Middle School. It is not just this section. So I think that's important for people to understand. and they keep thinking town centers this area around Deerbergs. That's not true. It goes all the way out to Wildwood Middle School. Um, and yeah, maybe eventually they'll get more that the school district will get more revenue, but what do they do in the in between time, especially when they're coming up with a bond issue? And it's not just the school district, it's other educational institutions. It's special school district. It's the library. It's community college. So, it's not just Rockwood School District. And um I know this isn't going to happen, but I'm going to ask my colleagues to please listen to the majority of residents, deny the chapter 100, but let the development go forward. Thank you.

Okay. Uh Council Member Farmer, uh I I gave Council Member McCutchen a chance. I'll certainly let you speak then.

Yeah. So, I mean, everybody else got a bite at this apple. I guess I'll give it a shot. I'm I'm looking around up here and I'm I think I might be the only one that is a product of the Rockwood School District. I graduated from Lafayette in 96. My oldest daughter will graduate next year from Lafayette. My youngest daughter will graduate four years later from Lafayette. I have been involved from the time they were kindergarteners until now in every classroom event, PTO, everything you can imagine. I'm currently trying to help the people that are moving the bond initiative forward for the teachers to get higher pay, which I think they deserve. I think everybody up here is going to think that they deserve. I hope that they do. Um, I was very much on the fence about whether a chapter 100 was an appropriate thing at all or for this product uh project for a while. And um we got some clarification that helped me make my decision last month, which is um we as a city are pretty well known in the development community as being not particularly fun to work with. Um and I personally don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I think it's okay to be specific and particular about what we want to have out here as a city. I do think however it becomes a bad thing when we are constantly arguing over what facts are real or not real or what how many floors are in a building or how many cars are going down a road. The the question here is less about to me, you know, they're going to build a new uh electric substation in Town Center. I didn't know about that until last month. I don't know if anybody out there or anybody watching knows. I think the city spent about what was it $50,000 on an elevator or something a couple years ago that blew up because of lightning.

That's uh well our insurance covered it, but it's correct. 63,000.

So, um you know, I'm not necessarily certain that that gets fixed by the substation, but I do hear a lot of people having trouble with electricity in Town Center. I know they have those issues down at um Wildwood Middle School where my daughter's a student. So, I I think when it comes to development, it's okay to be particular. It's not okay to be um just difficult for no reason. Th this is a project that will, I think, spur what we need to have happen in Town Center. We have buildings in Town Center. We have businesses in Town Center right now that aren't even staying open for 4 months. They're not It's not that they're making it to their first anniversary. They're barely getting through their first quarter. Um, it's it's not, I think, what anybody that uh works so hard to make this city what it could be designed when they were looking at Town Center. Uh, it's not what we should be doing here. So, for me personally, this is an investment that the city is being asked to help manage. I think I added it up. It was about $2 million of money between the substation and things that were basically specifically asked for by the city um to get this building approved the way that we all want it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But I do think we need to be a realistic about what that means. So um I'm personally going to support this Chapter 100, not because I think it is a great law in general or anything else, but I think it's a great tool to help spur our community. And I think, you know, one of the biggest issues I know talking to my friends that teach in Rockwood is they have a lot less kids. We have less people in Wildwood. They have less kids in the schools. We need more people being able to move out here and do things than we have or we're going to be having a different conversation in a few years about what the city is going to be at all because we don't get to make uh those decisions moving forward. So, um, I'm supporting it because I think it's the right thing to do for our city and I think at the end of the day, it's the right thing to do for Rock.

Thank you. All right. I don't have any other speakers, so um, we've had plenty of discussion here. So, therefore, I think we'll be ready to move forward. So, with the roll call vote. So, again, this is for the actual second reading approval of the bill. So, this will be a roll call. Council member Farmer. Yeah. Well, we once the vote is complete, we'll let you know what the results are. Council member Farmer, yes. Council member Dodwell, yes. Council member Nyan, yes. Council member Utenberg, yes. Council member Traier, no. Council member Mabberry,

yes. Council member Rablooki, no. Council member Preston. Yes. Was that a yes. Was that a yes? Council member Marshall? No. Council member McCutchen. No. Council member Rambo. Council member Crayons. Council member Vanic. No. Council member Alers. Yes. Council member Galani.

Yes. Yes. So, bill passes. All right. We're going to move on then back to our uh regular agenda here. Um so, we do have a public hearing and appreciate your patience sitting through this public hearing here. Um well, through this discussion. So, Director Vunage, uh please go right ahead for the public hearing. Public hearing PZ6-25 Lee Lerno 815 Strucker Road, Wildwood, Missouri 630005 in care of Gabe Dubo, THD Design 148 Chesterfield Industrial Boulevard, Chesterfield, Missouri 630005. A request for a change in zoning for a tract of land that is six acres in size being located on the west side of Strucker Road north of its intersection with Highland Summit Drive. Street address 815 Strucker Road, St. Louisis County locator number 21 U43000331 which is currently zoned NU non- urban residence district master plan conceptual land use category suburban residential area to the R1 1 acre residence district proposed use a total of two single family detached dwellings including required right-of-way dedication along Striker Road. One of these dwellings is already constructed. Ward three.

Mr. Mayor, with your permission. Yes, please go ahead. The right

Mr. Mayor and members of city council, the planning and zoning commission is presenting to you tonight a favorable report relative to the requested reszoning of the property owner. The property owner would like to subdivide the 6 acre parcel of ground into two lots. The lots would be approximately 3 acres in size if not for the required dedication requested by the city along Striker Road for future rideway purposes. With that dedication, lot becomes 5.86 acres in size versus 6 acres. Therefore, the requested reszoning is to accommodate that 2.86 acre lot that is a part and parcel to the land dedication for public rightway purposes. The planning and zoning commission endorsed the reszoning noting that master plans conceptual land use categories map designates this property as suburban residential area suburban residential area and accommodate a 1acre density and in this case it is not a 1acre density it's for all intents and purposes a threeacre density. So tonight you have a favorable recommendation report and later on in the agenda there is a bill that would authorize the reszoning. After public comment and there is I think a single comment card department will be available to answer any questions regarding the commission's action. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you for that. So at this time we will open the public hearing and if we have any speakers we just kindly ask that you uh follow the guidelines that I spoke about earlier just keeping your comments up to five minutes and uh we'll certainly let you know when you approach that time. So um Colleen do you have any speaker cards? Um Sonia Coleman.

Hello my name is Sonia Coleman. I'm a resident in the Highland Summit subdivision. And first of all, I want to thank the council for maintaining high standards to have made Wildwood a desirable community. Larger lots and thoughtful planning are what makes this city unique. That's why the request to reszone 815 Strucker Road is so concerning. The property is zoned for one home, and it should remain that way. As a um as one of the 84 Highland Summit residents, I can say that many of us do not support breaking this 6 acre parcel into 1acre lots, which is what the reasonzoning actually says. Um we've heard rumors that the builder may plan to use Highland Summit for access, but the resoning request never addressed this. That was sent to us. Is private property being sold off for access within our subdivision? Again, we have not been notified about this. Where are the deter where are the details and what are the questions like these being glossed over when our neighbors have asked reszoning this property sets a dangerous precedent. If it's approved there here what prevents what prevents others from carving up their lots that determines the very that undermines the very standards that Wildwood leadership has promoted and defended for so long. What changed? We respectfully ask for how far how far along is this proposal and who will ultimately vote on it. We urge you to stand by Wildwood's values and maintain maintain the current zoning. I spoke to many many many of our residents yesterday. Um most of them were not even aware that this meeting was happening. We were given a postcard saying that this lot was going to be reszoned with access to Strucker Road. But the rumor is, and everybody's been hearing it, that that one of our property owners in the subdivision has sold part of their property to make access for this um property. The property is large. There's nothing that would stop them if they are zoned for one acre to not subdivide it at a later date. And it also brings

other concerns that many people have larger lots. Can they sell off their backyards whenever someone comes with a a large bid and then get things reszoned? This this lot was around for many years. Many of our people in the subdivision have looked at it with the potential of of building a house, but it was a very long thin property that only had access to Strucker Road in a very small section. So now they're wanting to, you know, basically subdivide this, make it much more valuable property than what it was for all those years and and then come through our subdivision potentially with not any, you know, commu communication with us. So I think it's concerning us. we have a lot of common ground and other property around us that would you know look at us as an easy way to get access and and increase their property values. So anyway that that is our concern and ultimately we would like to thank you for your time and concern for our neighborhood.

Thank you. Richard Steppp.

Uh, thank you. Thank you very much, Mayor and Council members. Um um I'm I'm kind of coming in lately to this and and I I kind of echo what uh the previous speaker uh mentioned is we I live in Highland Summit and I I didn't know what we what power we had to control this if any. And as as you can see the road coming from Streker, it it does Highland Summit as it infers it's it's it's it's a hill and you have a switchback and um the switchback is blind. It's blind coming up, it's blind coming down. um on on on the on the the the the hump, the highest hump there, there's a lot of cars parked uh habitually in that area. And so when you come up, you only have one lane and often you have cars coming in your lane. that black um uh parallelogram. My my my geometry is failing me. It's been a long time. Um that's the proposed access to our subdivision. So now, not only do you have a blind curve coming up, going down that I have several times been forced onto the sidewalk. Now, you're going to have a driveway that may have a car in it. So, I think it's a safety issue. Uh, not um, and you don't have to believe me. Drive this. get in your cars and

drive up there and say, "Oh gosh, if there if a car came on the wrong side of the road, where would I go?" That that's happened to me often. So, um, not to mention, uh, we don't have to imagine what the construction traffic will be. The home that was built on the 2.86 eight six acres. They already had for months and months and months cars, uh, trucks, cement mixers that that were blocking probably 30 yards of a lane and we only had one lane to come into our subdivision. Um, so I I think it's a safety issue. Um, I've seen comments that, you know, talking about waterheds and all this. I don't know about that, but I know that this is a safety issue and u I I I would urge you to vote no on this. Thank you.

Thank you. Do we have any any other speakers? Uh, yes. Uh yeah, if you could just make sure to fill out the card after you're uh done speaking, uh just state your name and uh ward.

My name is Amy Ty and I'm one of the HOA trustees for Highway 7 and um we are aware of some of the concerns that people have said in there. Um, yes, it is a dangerous curve and um, yes, we're concerned about storm water and the last thing was about HOA fees because they'll be using our street, they'll be using our security camera and stuff like that. And my lawyer, our HOA lawyer, has been talking to the builder's lawyer and I've had a few conversations with them and we're trying to find um, a common ground to work with to address those sort of concerns. We have asked that that don't park any construction vehicles on that curb because it is kind of blind and it is dangerous and they have agreed to that. Um we have asked about the HO HOA fee being paid. We would like to have them join our HOA to have a voice in our community, but we have to wait to get um another meeting where we could vote them in. But in the meantime, we were hoping they could just pay their fair share of the fees so that, you know, they're, you know, adding to our infrastructure and and being a good neighbor, and they seem to agree to that as well. Um and then the waterhed too. I know, you know, building it, there's certain rules and things that you have to accommodate when building and that is on a hill. You can't tell, but it's a very steep hill. I'm right below that 3 acre box. My address is 16521 Highland Summit. There is a lot of water. I have five French drains in my area. So, there will be water runoff, but they said that they would be open to fixing whatever, you know, there was a problem or find some kind of escrow or a reasonable thing to address that. So, we are working on those things. I know people are concerned. the HOA has been doing our

best to represent the people in our community and um at the end of the day I feel like everybody just wants to be good neighbors. So um and also you know any of you guys can email us too about it. They haven't sold that lot actually didn't sold a parcel of their land that's against HOA rules. They've given an easement so they're just agreeing that they could use that for a driveway. you know, other things. So, we're we're trying to do everything legal. We're trying to be fair and we're working on on finding a common ground for that. And I just wanted to explain that. Thank you.

All right. Um, do we have any other speakers or uh, Director Vunage, would this be appropriate for the petitioner's attorney to speak now or or would public comment? Public comment is only uh, yeah, open once. So, uh, at this time, do we go ahead? Okay. So, yeah, if you haven't spoken yet, you're able to speak at this time. All right. Um, I will try to be brief. Uh, so I know it's been kind of a long evening for everyone. My name is Elizabeth Lum with Amenson Davis. we represent um the applicant or the builder uh who is uh proposing this lot split. Uh I'd like to thank of course uh Travis and Mr. Vunich for um their uh time and attention to this manner and um approaching it with uh such care at the planning and zoning level. Um again this property is a 6 acre lot. It is currently zoned NU which is a non-urban residential district. the reason for the reasonzoning or excuse me um in a non-urban residential district uh you are allowed to have three acre lots. So this lot could in theory be split into two 3acre lots. The reason it cannot be split is because the city has asked and the property owners have agreed to dedicate a portion of that front lot fronting on uh Striker Road for rightway improvements. So really the reason that we are asking for this reasonzoning is you know for the right ofway improvements but for the city's request we wouldn't need it. Um the proposed use of single family

residential uh the surrounding lots are all um you know R1A 1acre residential lots. any fears that this is going to be uh developed into say a five or six uh lot subdivision that's when you factor in not just the size of lots but also the ride ofway for the road and a turnaround for a school bus developmentally that's just not feasible. So this really will be just a single family home. Um and it will be similar lot sizes to what is avail in the surrounding area. Um we have heard from the community concerns about excess development, excess traffic, runoff and erosion and aesthetics. Um we can let you know the new home will likely not be visible from Striker Road. Uh the builder will uh comply as far as uh runoff and erosion. will comply with all city ordinances. Uh the city does require escros from the builder both for uh grading uh storm water management uh things of that nature and also for the maintenance or repair of the road should construction vehicles tear it up. Uh so the builder will be providing those. uh we're talking about um one additional residence. Again, that uh amounts to approximately six trips a day, give or take. Um the builder will provide on site a parking area for contractors, subcontractors. I did mention to the builder again the homeowners concerns about construction vehicles parking on the street. Um and he's agreed to, you know, take special care to uh notify his contractors and subcontractors that not to do that. He will provide a wash out station on site also to kind of help eliminate or reduce

some of the mud that would be dragged onto the property. Um we have been working with the homeowners association. Um and as as Amy said, um we've pretty much I think in theory reached an agreement. Um, I have finished uh preparing a written agreement and giving it to my client today. Uh, once he approves it, we'll get it over to their attorney uh who I know very well. So, I don't really anticipate any issues. Um, if any of you have any questions for us, we're happy to answer them. And thank you. Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Um, do we have anyone else that wishes to speak? Okay, so uh therefore, uh, we'll go ahead and close the P. Well, Joe, do you want to have any other comments or

Okay, thank you. Um, director Vonage, uh, well, Mr. Mayor, members of city council, if there are any questions regarding the commission's review process that was used, any of the postings relating to the public hearing at Planning and Zoning Commission, subsequent meetings at the same and then tonight's public hearing, we'd be glad to answer them.

Right. So, uh we do have uh yeah, we have if you have some questions now, this would be a good time. And we just keep in mind we also have later on in the agenda first reading. So, I'm going to ask just because these folks have been patient sitting through it that we just get a motion after we have our discussion to move that item just so that you know they can go on with the rest of their evening. All right. Uh, uh, go ahead, Council Member Farmer. Well, I was just going to ask procedurally if it's right to ask questions now or just close the hearing and then ask them before the first reading. Either is appropriate.

All right. So, um, I am curious. I know some of the folks in Point Clayton had some issues when the first house got built and certainly there's been some runoff and things like that. Have we corrected whatever was going on there? I feel like there was some oddities the first time around. From the department's perspective, we do require as part of any single family detached dwelling, whether it's on 6 acres, 3 acres, or otherwise, storm water management facilities. Um, I suspect the problems were associated with the construction period. We did spend some time out at the site addressing issues relating to siltation control, etc. Um the best plans um are sometimes thwarted by 3 in of rain in the matter of an hour or two. I can't guarantee you that there won't be a problem. It's how the city responds to the problem and how the builder developer cooperates with the city. All right, my last thing since we're trying to kind of unwind some of these odd road configurations that we have throughout the city is there supposed to be a driveway? I mean, is this how this seems like kind of a I mean, I guess you could put one in there. I'm just curious like is that how that's supposed to be or is this sort of we're just fitting something in here and putting a driveway in it to a road? Well, from the perspective of the Department of Planning, one of the first things we'll do as part of the process if the bills passed tonight or in a month in October is to ensure that first the easement is only guaranteed for one lot and one lot only. It's not the intent of the department to basically set and stage the potential subdivision of the threeacre lot into an additional

lot for whatever reason. So that's the first thing and that'll be on the plat. Plat will basically state that this is the easement's intended for one lot. Therefore, if they were to subdivide, the plat would have to be amended and that comes back to you as city council. The location is the most logical location from the perspective of the department. and it's as close to that that bend as possible and it doesn't disrupt the property to the south which I assume the owner that's granting the easement wants to minimize. We'll make sure that the site distance works. Can I guarantee that someone won't cross the center line and create a potential safety issue? Again, our position is it's a 25 mph speed limit. It's a public street. Follow the rules and we can't guarantee that. So if we are trying to basically eliminate all safety hazards by not approving development, that's the only way I know.

Thanks, Joe. All right. Uh I have uh I believe council member Dodwell and I'll come to you after council member Mabri. Thank you. Just a real quick question. And I wanted to make sure on the diagram here um I'm looking at that curve across the street from your highlighted driveway for this new location. Yes, ma'am. And I see one house then other in the curve is a second house and then a third house. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. So all three of those are exiting onto the same road. Correct? Yes. So we're adding one additional Yes.

Home to that. Okay. Thank you.

Yes, ma'am. Just the threeacre lot would access Highland Summit Drive. The existing dwelling has direct access to Strickland Road. Again, both public streets. Uh, any other council members have any questions or anything at this time? Otherwise, uh, C, that's right. Council member Mree. Thank you. Go ahead. That is in an existing easement that was established as part of the Highland Summit subdivision. And if I had my glasses, I could probably tell you, but it sure looks like some type of utility easement. Travis Very unlikely. All right.

Um, yeah, just just uh trying to give you some grace. I know it's been a long night. Uh, but uh yeah, the opportunity for public comment is is when we speak. So, um, but appreciate that you're trying to be helpful there. Director Vunage, just to summarize, it's a 5.88 5.86 acre tract of land taking into account the dedication for public rightway. Surrounding lot sizes are generally much less than that.

Yes, sir. just terminology, I'm sure, but I've seen a postcard and I've heard a comment from a speaker tonight that state um that their perception is that there's going to be more than one 3acre lot developed on this parcel. I've heard the term from the petitioner that the lots that are to be developed are similar to those in the surrounding area. There are no other 3acre lots in the surrounding area. So, the use of the word plural for lots instead of the lot that's to be developed is similar to those in the surrounding area. That confused me and that just gives pause for those that live in the area. confusion about whether this is going to be sacredly protected not infinitum in the future as one 3 acre lot or if there's anything in the ordinance that we're passing or not that will permit um sneaking in or further subdivisions to lot sizes that are the same as the surrounding area that could come later and then increasing the traffic count by five houses instead of just one more. I just need to I need to hear it clearly enough that I haven't heard it in tonight's discussion. One lot, three acres, never anything more forever.

Well, certainly I can only speak to the protections that will be provided as part of the approval of the bill or this division of the lot and or excuse me the this is the reasonzoning of the lot. So tonight we are just changing the zoning to the one R1 oneacre resident district. The companion to this is the actual plat which is not on tonight's agenda. The plat will provide the protections. The plat will guarantee that the easement that's established is done legally in accordance with city rules and will be verified by our city attorney John Young. easement in my opinion should reflect that it's intended for one use and one use only the 3acre lot the plat will reference the fact that the easement is to be that we will require it I cannot guarantee again that some the 3 acre or the 2.86 2.86 86 acre owners won't come back and attempt to subdivide, but they will have to basically amend the easement, amend the plat, and then also get access onto Striker Road for the 2.86 acre lot. And all of those are controlled by the city, not the developer, not the attorney representing the developer, not the homeowners association. The authority relative to land use and subdivision is that of the city council.

That of the who? City council. Yeah. Thank you kindly. Okay. Uh do we have uh council member Galani?

Yeah. I was just going to um speak on this. I mean so just correct me if I'm wrong. What what I'm hearing here is that this is a sixacre parcel being divided in 2.86 because of the easement. It's still 3 acres and there's going to be one other 3acre lot that's going to be developed with one home, right? Um I know this resident has been in the process of trying to get this done for quite some time, many months. Um the original first reading was supposed to be last month. The reason it wasn't was because of a technicality of a 15-day waiting period or something related to a public hearing, and that's why it got pushed out today. All they're trying to do is divide their sixacre lot, which is within the guidelines of the city. They're working with the homeowners association, even though they're not legally required to join the homeowners association. They've been respectful and worked diligently to try to appease everyone they can. At the end of the day, you can't always make everybody happy, but they they've gone above and beyond and they're within their rights to sell that lot and um and do what they're doing. And they've worked with us tirelessly for an extended period of time. So, um, at this point, I mean, I really don't know what what there and like you just said, the pro protections are in place to where that lot cannot be changed from a 3 acre single lot without approval of the city council once this goes forward. So, I would say we should we should move this forward and and let these folks get up on with their business and uh go from there. Thanks.

All right. I don't see any other hands. One short question. One more. Uh, director, can you offer any

um drawbacks, negatives or reasons why it would not be easily permissible, no reservations at all, that we'd be able to do a second reading right after the second first one tonight? Any you have pause that you'd like one more month to bulletproof? Well, from the standpoint of the zoning, I see no objection. I would caution as we move to the plat. If we don't have all the details relative to the easement that provides access to the new 3acre lot, then I would say no, there shouldn't be a second reading. If we don't have the plat items that guarantee the protections we've talked about tonight, again, the plat is where I think the protections lie. The reszoning itself, again, I fall back on the master plan. This is designated suburban. It's in it is allowed under our master plan and it's one of the few lots that remain in the suburban that actually could be subdivided. So, that was of my concern. We're only voting for potentially twice, two readings on the reszoning. We're not voting on the final plat,

not the final plat. The final plat will contain the protections relative to the excess easement and the future use of the lot. Okay. Had to hear you say it. Thank you. All right. Well, uh I don't uh don't have any other speakers. So, at this time, um sorry, we unfortunately, you know, we only allow uh during public hearings once So,

yeah. And and and and uh I'll let you have a chance to talk to director right there. He can explain it to you. He's right there. So, thank you. Uh, okay. So, we're going to close the public hearing. Can I get a motion to close the public hearing made by Council Member Farmer, seconded by Council Member Attenburg? All those in favor, please say I. I. Anyone oppose or abstain? All right. Can I get a motion now again just to change the order of the agenda so that we can address uh the bill, which is bill 3011 uh now. And again, change the order. We'll do that. Council member Farmer. Is there a second? Council member Mabberry. All those in favor of changing the order of the agenda to address bill 3011 right now, please say I.

I. Anyone oppose or abstain? Okay. So, now we're into bill 3011. Is there a motion for the first reading of the bill? Made by council member Cray, seconded by council member Mabry. All those in favor, please say I. I.

Anyone opposed or abstain? Uh, Colleen, please go ahead and read bill 301. Bill 3011, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, excuse me, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, approving a change in zoning from the NU non-urban residence district to the R1 1 acre residence district for a 6 acre tract of land that is located on the northwest corner of Streker Road at its intersection with Highland Summit Drive, PZ6-25, Lee Lerno. Okay. Director M, thanks for coming back up. I'm assuming if you have any questions or do you wish to add anything?

I have nothing to add, but if there are any questions relative to the proposed bill. Okay. So, uh, Council Member Galani. Okay. Uh, be appropriate right now to make a motion for a second reading. So, Council Member Galani making a motion for a second reading seconded by uh, Council Member Mabberry. All those in favor, please say I. I. Anyone opposed or abstain? All right. One oppose. Uh, Council Member McCutchen, but uh, please go ahead and read the bill the second time.

So, we approved a motion for for the first reading, but we did not take a vote then afterwards. Took it. Yeah, you took a voice vote. A voice vote. voice. Yes. Okay. Once we did the voice vote, we read it. Now we can go to the second. So's going to read it out to us. And we apologize for the confusion over here on this end.

That's okay. I'm trying to keep think probably appreciate that. Uh so uh go ahead. Uh Colleen, please go ahead and read the bill the second time. 3011, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, approving a change in zoning from the NU non-urban residence district to the R1 1 acre residence district for a 6 acre tract of land that is located on the northwest corner of Strucker Road at its intersection with Highland Summer Drive, PZ6-25 Lee Lerno. second time we're on the floor. Uh again, open for discussion, debate, and Joe is here to provide any additional information, which I don't believe that much has changed since we last saw you.

Believe not, sir. Okay. Anything else from the council here? All right. Seeing no hands up, then we'll go ahead with the roll call for the second read. Council member Farmer, yes. Council member Dodwell, yes. Council member Nyan, Council Member Utenberg, yes. Avery. Yes. Council member Roblooski. Yes. Council member Preston. Yes. Yes. Council member Marshall. Yes. Council member McCutchen. I'm sorry. I have a question. Is this for the second reading to allow the second reading? So,

council member Rambo? Yes. Council member Crayons. Council member Vanic. Yes. Council member Alers. Yes. Council member Galani. Yes. Bill.

So continue now back to uh our agenda under legislation unfinished business. Uh second page. So uh this first item, Bill 3011 3001. Um given the budgetary impact I'm gonna just uh go ahead and see if we just do that separately. Uh but we will look to maybe consolidate bill 30002 and 30006 uh due to the small budgetary impact numbers and we'll we'll treat 303 separately as well. So, is there a motion for the first uh item uh bill 30001 which concerns Ward 8 made by council member Galani and second council member Alers? Right. All those in favor of the first reading of bill 30001, please say I.

I. Oh, let me restate it. Okay. So, we're going to go ahead and back and uh Council Member Galani and Council Member Alers, this is for the second reading. Are you both okay with that? Okay. So, then we'll have the motion on the floor for bill 30001 for a second reading. All those in favor, please say I. I. Anyone oppose or abstain?

All right. Um, please go ahead and read bill the second. 001, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, authorizing the city administrator to execute the necessary agreement purchase order to procure from unlimited play the selected playground equipment for the all-inclusive facility that will constitute phase two of the city's village green. Director,

Mr. Mayor, I understand from the city administrator you received an email relative to the process associated with unlimited play. So, I don't know if we want to proceed with a second vote tonight until the city attorney has rendered it to decision. We had uh the department has consulted with the city attorney and it's okay to move forward with a second reading. Then, Mr. Mayor, I'm available for any questions or comments. All right. All right. Do we have any questions or comments or uh going to the second reading? Otherwise, go ahead and do a roll call vote for bill 30001.

Council member Farmer. Yes. Council member Dodwell. Yes. Council member Nyan. Yes. Council member Utenberg. Council member Tradier. Yes. Council member Mabberry. Yes. Council member Robooski, yes. Council member Preston, yes. Council member Marshall, yes. Council member McCutchen, yes. Council member Rambo, yes. Council member Cran, yes. Council member Vanic, yes. Council member Alers, yes. Council member Galani, yes. Council member Attenburg.

So now we're going to have uh bill 30002. Is there any objection to reading bill 30002 and bill 30006 and ask you want to separate it? Okay, then we'll handle it separately. All right. So, let's move into bill 30002 before the council for a second reading concerns 8 of the uh can we get a motion for the second reading by council member seconded by council member Cray. Right. All those in favor of the second reading, please say I. Bill 30002, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, authorizing the mayor to execute the attached city contractor agreement and associated materials with Sheret Creek Excavating for the installation of a new trash enclosure for the city hall site. Mr. Mayor and members of city council, this particular item was discussed at the August meeting of city council. It is the intent to replace the permanent trash enclosure that was removed as part of phase one of village green. This particular enclosure will be located at the end of Wildwood Avenue. Right. Bill 30002 is before the council. You have any questions or discussion regarding bill 30002? Council member Farmer. Yeah, just a quick thought on this. I mean, I think $57,000 would be a super nice stretch compartment. Um, so I know we talked about it, I think last month where, you know, we said if another developer were to come in, this is something that we would

require them to do in this way. So, this might be a good example to start kind of keeping track of the things that there's nothing wrong that we as a city are asking for these things, but they do cost more money than, you know, dumping a pad and a little fence around it. So, it might be good for our residents to understand, you know, the cost benefit of some of these things because I mean, I think a chain fence and a pad would probably be less than half of that amount of money and obviously that's not something we want to have on the council. It's just something maybe to think about going forward. Well, certainly. And the discussion focused on the fact that it's at the terminus of Wildwood Avenue if the property to the south which has the contiguous boundary with the edge of Bright Point were to develop and certainly we would require as part of the public space requirements or another replacement be provided at the cost of the development.

Great. Do we have anyone else that wishes to speak? Yeah. Okay. Uh, seeing none, then we'll do a roll call for bill 30002. Council member Farmer, yes. Council member Dodwell, yes. Council member Nyan, yes. Council member Otenberg, yes. Council member Troutier, yes. Council member Mabberry, yes. Council member Rablooki, yes. Council member Preston. Council member Marshall, yes. Council member McCutchen, yes. Council member Rambo. Yes. Council member Crayons. Yes. Council member Vanic. Yes. Council member Alers. Council member Galani.

We'll go on to bill 30003. Is can I get a motion for bill 30003 regarding W 8? Made by councelor Galani, seconded by their second. Council member Alers. Okay. Um motion for second reading of bill 30003. Uh all those in favor please say I. I. Anyone oppose or abstain?

Right. Colleen, please go ahead and read bill 30003. 30003, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, authorizing the mayor to execute the attached city contractor agreement and associated materials with Sheret Creek Excavating LLC for the reassembly of the Essen Law Cabin within the phase one area of the village green site. Mr. Mayor, members of city council, obviously this has been a topic that's been discussed at length at different meetings over the course of the past 10 years. If there are any remaining questions or comments, the department be glad to try to address them. Thank you,

Council Member Alers.

Um I were there any attempts for fundraising and what were the results of those attempts? We did over the course of the past couple of years during the celebrate Wildwood event history tent at back to school party try to solicit donations. We did, but I believe they were less than $1,000. I believe the Essen family has commented they may donate some funds to the project as well, but I can't give you an amount. But for the most part, the fundraising has not been what I would consider successful to defer what is a substantial cost.

Anyone else? Council member Farmer. Yeah, I just I know that this has been a topic of conversation for a long time. I got to see the remnants of the Esau cabin with Council Member Marshall a couple years ago. Um I know how much energy and effort a lot of people have spent on this thing. I am personally just looking at this amount of money and I like I cannot with a good conscience approve almost $300,000 for for for something like this. I mean it is that's a lot that's a lot of money for something that I'm not even sure what we would do with just me.

All right. Uh, council member CR remind me h how much are the original pieces left at the percentage wise there was an assessment done by header and I is a consultant that does historical preservation projects I would say probably of the logs themselves there's probably 75% that were recovered from the theft the stone foundation the raptors for the roofing and the roof itself and all windows and doors were lost. So, it's more like 25%.

Well, when you when you add all of the components together, it's probably a third to 30 to 40% would be my estimate. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Anyone else? Council member Oh, all right. Council member Mabri and then we'll come back.

Yes. Uh Mr. Gunichai had been a no vote for this, but I make a motion for approval of this uh petition. And I'll tell you why if it's of interest, my perspective did a 180 having been a leazison council leaison with the historic preservation uh commission and what perspectives and insights they've provided over the short months. Uh it's it's uh for me uh because I've lived out here 38 years and I've learned how things work. It's never going to be the SN log cabin. It will never be that. But that's for me for the city who isn't me. It's going to be the SN log cabin. And it's going to be a stronger, more permanent structure than rebuilding the original one with 100% of its logs. It's going to be made uh I've heard references made that the quality of building materials is going to be in the order of range magnitude 30 years amortized 30 years into 300k you've got a very low peranom ROI that's really all it's worth to me the investment for the for the ROI and for the perspectives and those insights that all the residents are going to uh share in for 30 years.

Okay. And Council Member Marshall.

Yeah. I just um I guess my concern is I know that we spent over $80,000 on the old pond school and I looked and no one has used that for any facility. We're not good at maintaining things. And I mean I I just kind of look at city hall and it's not anybody's intention. It's just the fact that I don't know how we're going to take something like that and without a real drain focus on how we're going to maintain uh a replica of a cabin that won't be open to the public. I don't believe any electricity in it. So, I mean, it'll just be a replica there unless it's an event where people are standing outside to try to take people in. It just seems like that's a whole lot of money for something and we've got so many other park challenges and so much money that we're spending on it. So I don't I I know everybody's worked hard for 10 years, but there's very little of it that's still the Essen cabin. So thank you.

Certainly, Mr. Marshall, I can't argue your opinion on Essen Log Cabin, but I would personally meet with you down at Old Pond School and if you could show me where the problems are. We've spent No, no, no problems. I'm saying it's a beautiful facility, but for whatever reason, people aren't using it. Well, I will tell you Pine Athletic Association uses it once a month for their board meetings. We have a lot of boy and boy scout and girl scout troops that meet down there as well as some of the smaller um large lot single family subdivisions have their homeowners association meetings.

I take back all my comments about it not being used. Well, it's it's it and if you go down there for Rockwood School District kind of discontinued bus service, it was very popular with the bus drivers to get away from Yeah. So, okay. Uh, Council Member Malani.

Yeah. I just wanted to say a couple things on this. I totally understand the the um heartache with the cost and it is a decent sum of money obviously and um honestly I was kind of in the air on it myself as to you know what direction I do know a lot of people have put a lot of work into it and I do think Wildwood as a city we we talk about it and pride ourselves on our history and and the fact that you know we've been here in this area for so long and Route 66 and all that and honestly if this was a cabin that was going to be you know refurbished or rebuilt in some random part of the city real estate holdings or somewhere, I probably wouldn't support it. The fact that it would be on Village Green is the reason why I would support it because I believe that this is like the crown jewel centerpiece of the city that we're building. We're making a massive investment and this would be a major piece of history that will be sitting right there on that exact parcel where all our residents will be proud to go and be at. So, I think it would help foster history and people becoming more interested in learning about it and actually serve a purpose and provide value versus just reconstructing an old cabin um from a long time ago. So, that's it.

Mr. Mayor, with your permission, just one quick comment. Mr. Mayberry kind of touched upon it. I think we have a very enthusiastic historic preservation commission, very imaginative one, and I think they are focused on if the bill were to pass and the cabin is reassembled to utilize it as much as possible and make it a community asset versus just something that's in Village Green that people say, "Oh, that's nice." and walk away. Okay. Oh, council member Rambo and then McCuchen. Um,

yeah, we made a commitment to residents to um hot mic there. Um, to to get this thing restored. Um, no. Uh if you go to the the analogy I used was if you go to the m Smithsonian or I was just recently in the Indie car museum and none of those vehicles have more than 50% if that of the original parts you just can't reconstruct something his from a historically accurate perspective um and fi you know find all the parts you just it just doesn't happen. So, uh, that is no concern to me and, um, it shouldn't be a concern to most people. But, um, what I would say is, um, to Mr. Mabber's point, 10 grand a year, uh, with no maintenance, we've worked very hard to make sure that there on the on the um, historic preservation commission and also in the planning and parks meetings to make sure that there's no um um, maintenance component to this. So, it's 10 grand a year. We spent 35k a year on the barbecue bash, and that was a whole different class of thing, but it was um it didn't bring any more to the community than I think this um uh structure will um on a daily basis. Um Mr. Galani said it better than I could. Um you know, making the case. It's right there on Village Green. It's going to be a showpiece and it's going to be a statement and it's the statement is Wildwood cares about history and um we care about preservation and we just heard a an 8-minute presentation from a preservation lady that's helping us with some of that. we, you know, for the money, I think this is very very cost-effective and um I I it fulfills a comm a 10-year commitment to our residents and we finally get to put it to bed that um you know, we had this theft 10 years ago and now we got these logs sitting around and so on and so forth. What we going to what are we

going to do with them? Um, the fact is one final point, logs deteriorate when they're stacked in a yard and they don't deteriorate when they are constructed because they stay dry and so on and so forth and the you know the the the rot doesn't doesn't set in. And so it's either um use them or lose them at this point and I I strongly uh hope that we use them. That's it. Thanks,

Councilman McCutchen. Yes. No. The intent is to not run electricity to the cabin at this time. There is conduit that has been installed as part of Village Green that goes to the cabin. So, if we do want to pull a line and add electricity at some point in the future, we can. Council member Mry,

it's driving into minutia, but uh director, the $4,500 line item I find for village green, I think it's phase one. Um is that for the conduit or was that to run the circuits, too? I'd heard that there was going to be um minimal electricity to be able to um carry small groups that get inside the structure. So that would require a switch and a light and a receptacle and a this. So are we buying conduit for future pulling wire or are we getting the circuits put into for 4,500 bucks?

Actually my understanding is that it it is just conduit at this stage. There were two components to extend conduit. First, there was a thought of maybe putting some lighting on the path that leads to the cabin so it could be viewed at dusk or the early night hours. And then secondly, as you mentioned, if there is a desire to have the cabin open in the evening or night, we could then light it. The problem with having the cabin open at evening or night, someone has to be there from the city. And there wasn't just a general consensus that we're a small staff and who wants to be there if it's a group of boy scouts that want to take a tour of Girl Scouts. We assumed we could do that in the afternoon hours when light.

When I saw that, I figured it would be more closed up and just mood lighting for people walking around the park at night, but nobody goes inside. And if you got inside, sorry, if you got inside, it would have be a group of four boy scouts learning how to spin yarn or something. As I mentioned, someone uh working a a kettle washer for washing your clothes with a kettle board. That's all.

We did select a location for the cabin on nearby lighting. we have lighting in the park itself around the oval as well as the walkway from the accessible spaces. So we think we'll get some of that that that illumination there. So obviously we prepared for the future with the conduit but at this stage it was just another cost savings too. Thank you council member Alers.

Um Mr. Rodenberg is would the economic development committee be able to come up with any uh donations for this um cabin? I mean, it's it needs help. It needs help. Uh unless you're talking about individual members. Um no, no. As a committee, not you personally.

As a committee, uh um city administrator Lee, how much of uh what's the budget of the economic development committee? It's it's not much uh in in less than $30,000, but ex except the individual that um sits in that position as the economic development manager, but the actual task, the community relations budget is minimal at $10,000. Okay. All right. Thank you. So, that's uh that that's a pretty good answer to your question.

Well, it's it's something that's a hard sell here. I just I wish there could have been more efforts to fund raise on our donations, corporate donations or something here. So I I have trouble kind of, you know, uh supporting this kind of cost even though I see the historic value. That's why I have keep asking about fundraising, donations, etc. Council member nine. All right. Looks like we've had quite a bit of discussion here. So, seeing that there are no other hands uh up, uh let's do a roll call for uh the

council member Farmer. Hang on a second. Uh we did read the bill for the second time. Yeah, we did. The bill was read for the second time and so now that we've had debate and Yeah. Yeah, we did. Thank you for asking. Uh, so now it's just a roll call vote of the final passage. Council member Farmer, no. Council member Dodwell, yes. Council member Nyan, yes. Council member Attenburg, yes. Council member Traier, no. Council member Mabberry, yes. Council member Robooski, no. Council member Preston. Council member Marshall. No. Council member McCutchen. Council member Rambo.

Yes. Council member Crayons.

Council member Vanic. No. Council member Alers. No. Council member Galani. Yes. Right. Okay. So, on to uh bill 3006, which hang on. Colleen, can you just give us the totals for that bill? Uh yeah, I don't know. I missed it.

Sorry, I stand corrected. I apologize. Let me just get your uh attention here. That bill that fail did not get the necessary votes. Uh city attorney. So, right. No, it needs nine votes. Uh Mr. Preston is no longer with us. Yeah. A bill requ any ordinance requires a majority of the entire membership of the council. So, any ordinance requires nine votes. No, not for

so. So what happens now? Do we start the process? Oh. Uh, so at this point, city attorney Young, go ahead explain. So the options at this point are, and I'm not sure what happened to the council member, council member Preston. Um, so if if there's somebody who wants to change their vote, a motion, reconsider can be brought. Uh, otherwise, the bill fails and kind of it starts the process over. Well,

do they have to make the reconsideration tonight or do they have till uh the next meeting? Well, and and because of the city council's rules for its own in the city code, the a member of the eight could make that motion reconsidered. So if so in that case, if someone wants to make a motion to reconsider, you can and and there's a second for it, and it would be one of the eight that voted yes could make that motion to reconsider under the city council's rules. And we can Okay. Okay.

Well, the the vote's already been declared, so it would have to be a motion to reconsider. Okay. So, Council Member Galani is making a motion to reconsider. Is there a second? I'll second it. Okay, you both were on the failing side there. Yeah, rub it in. You just need a majority. All right. All those in favor of the motion on the floor to reconsider, please. Uh well, let's see. Well, let's see if there's a voice vote says it. All those in favor of uh reconsideration, please say I. I. I. Any oppose?

Um let's see. Can you do by show hands? One, two, three, four, and five. Right. Yeah. Let's just do a roll call. Okay. So, so we had um C. Yeah. All right. So, let's let's just do a roll call just because it is close. Uh so, Colleen, go ahead. Council member Farmer. Council member Dodwell. Yes. Council member Nyan. Council member Utenberg. Yes. Council member Tradier. No. Council member Mabberry. Yes. Council member Robooski. No. Council member Preston. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Council member Marshall. No. Council member McCutchen. Yes. Council member Rambo. Yes. Council member Crayons. Council member Vanic. Council member Alers, Council Member Galani to reconsider it. It's passed. So now, okay. So now we're back to voting on the bill. U we open discussion or

So if there's if there's any further debate on it, that can be brought up at this time. Otherwise, you are just voting on the bill itself. Uh, and just editorial comment, that vote that you just had did not require nine votes. It required a simple majority of those present. Gotcha. The bill, however, requires nine votes. Okay. Got it. So, therefore, any any other discussion? Otherwise, we'll do a roll call vote for the bill, a second reading of uh of the bill before us. Council member Farmer, no. Council member Dodwell, yes. Yes. Council member Nyan. Council member Otenberg. Yes. Council member Troutier. No. Council member Mabberry. Yes. Council member Roblooski.

No. Council member Preston. Yes. Council member Marshall. No. Council member McCutchen. Yes. Council member Rambo? Yes. Council member Crayons. Council member Vanic. No. Council member Alers. Council member Galani. Yes. Nice.

This time 96 we have the majority that bill passes. All right, moving on then. Uh we have bill 30006 for a second reading concerns board one. Is there a motion for a second reading of the bill for bill 30006 made by council member crayons? Is there a second? Made by council member TR. All those in favor of the second reading of bill 30006, please say I. I.

Anyone oppose or abstain. All right. Uh, please go ahead and read bill 30006. Rule 30006, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, that hereby authorizes a change in zoning in association with an approximately 1.5 acre parcel of ground that is located at the terminus of Hawthorne Hawthorne Village Parkways intersection with State Route 109 from the amended C8 planned commercial district to the second amended C8 planned commercial district, which will thereby allow for its use for offices, warehousing activities, and limited outdoor storage. All being in conjunction with a lawn maintenance and landscaping activity that is relocating to this town center location.

Director Vunage, Mr. Mayor, the bill has not um changed since its introduction in August, but if there are any questions, comment, any discussion or any questions on the bill? Council member TRA. Uh the facility will be permitted to operate seven days a week. Is that correct? Yes. Anyone else? All right. And seeing we'll proceed with the roll call vote for bill 30006. Council member Farmer. Yes. Council member Dodwell. Yes. Council member Nyan. Yes. Council member Atenberg. Yes. Council member Traier. Yes. Council member M. Yes. Council member Rablooki.

Yes. Council member Preston, yes. Council member Marshall, yes. Council member McCutchen, yes. Council member Rambo, yes. Council member Crayons, Council Member Vanic, yes. Council member Elers, yes. Council member Galani, yes. Pass. All right, moving on to new business. If there is no objection, I would prefer that we read in mass bills 30007, 30008, 30009, and 3010. Are there any objections uh to reading all these bills in mass? These are all under new business.

A question on 30009. Would like to make a comment. Um you will can I still make comment if we do it all? as we do the reading uh first reading uh you can we'll entertain questions or information. Um so there's no objection. So can I get a motion for the reading of bills 30007 30008 30009 and 3010 made by council member Marshall seconded by council member Galani. All those in favor please say I. I.

Anyone oppose or abstain? All right. Uh please go ahead and read uh all the bills. Bill 30007, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, authorizing the mayor to negotiate and execute a city contractor agreement with Omni Tree Service Incorporated for the planting of new trees within the public rights of way of the city of Wildwood. Bill 30008, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, authorizing the mayor to negotiate and execute a supplemental agreement with the Missouri Highways and Transportation Commission to authorize an amendment to the project development schedule for the Green Pines Park Connector Trail shared use path in the city of Wildwood. Bill 30009, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, amending chapter 390, traffic schedule 9, parking restrictions of the code of ordinances of the city of Wildwood, by enacting new parking regulations on Windsor Crest Boulevard and authorizing and directing the city traffic engineer to erect appropriate signage reflecting such parking regulations. Excuse me. Bill 3010, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, revising the budget for the city of Wildwood, Missouri for the fiscal year commencing on January 1, 2025 and ending on December 31st, 2025.

Okay, the opportunity if you have any questions regarding first reading of these items. Council member Oleski, do you still have that question? Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment and originally I was asking whether I should vote on this or not because this is this my subdivision that I live in and whether I should abstain or not. The reason this was brought forward was because we had an incident where an emergency vehicle could not get around a corner and people in the subdivision felt strongly we needed to do something. So, it was brought forward um to say could we uh we have to have parking on the streets cuz we our driveways aren't long enough, but wanted to bring it forward to see if we could just have no parking on one side where this corner is so emergency vehicles can get through um because we did have an incident and they had to walk up the street. So, that's why it's on here. Um, I was also hoping to get second reading, but if I abstain, then I can't make a motion for that because in the meantime, emergency vehicles still can't get through if people are parked on both sides of the street. So, kind of my dilemma for the night, but just wanted to make that comment.

Okay. Um, Council Member Farmer, can I make a motion for a second reading? Yeah, we can certainly entertain that. Let me just see if there's any other questions related to any of the uh items. The Council Member McCutchen, go ahead. It says that

green pines. Oh, no. No, currently and that that should be incorrected. I'll go back and make sure that's corrected. That work is currently planned for 2026 and will be included in the capital budget for 26. The easements, yes, the easements are we're going to be starting to work on those, but I mean, I'll ask Director Brown, but I do not believe that there would actually be executing easements this year. Do you think we'll have those in hand? Um it's possible because we really have to address just one property owner that so it is possible but we can change that.

My understanding was that we were going to probably be p getting that easement in 2026 but we can make that change to make sure we have it for 2026. Okay. Anyone else have any other questions? Otherwise, we'll go ahead and entertain that uh second reading which council member Farmer Second reading 309 for 3009. Uh council member Farmer, you want to go ahead? You want to still make that a motion for a second reading of bill 30009 and then seconded by Council Member Cray. Uh all those in favor of uh reading bill 30009 for a second reading uh please say I. I oppose or abstain. abstain.

Yeah, we we did get a motion for first reading of those bills all

um No, I we did that and once we got the motion uh where everyone voted then I said to Colleen, go ahead and read them. Yeah. Okay. All right. Otherwise, we would neatic. Oh. Oh. Do we That's not No, that we don't do that. No. No. We only just do the first motion for first meeting. Well, right now, yeah. I Council Member Glotty, Council Member Cran made the motion for a second reading. So, we got uh So, do we have Okay, we got a voice vote. So, now I'm going to read it for the second time and then we're going to come back and do a roll call.

We're 30009. 43009. Yes. Okay. So, so Okay. So now that we have a motion for a second reading, all those in favor, please say I. I. I.

Anyone oppose? Ripstain. Okay. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. The the late hour is starting to drag. Yes. Uh all right. So now that we have a motion for a second read, Colleen, please go ahead and read it. Bill 30009, an ordinance of the city of Wildwood, Missouri, amending chapter 390, traffic schedule 9, parking restrictions of the code of ordinances of the city of Wildwood, by enacting new parking regulations on Windsor Crest Boulevard, and authorizing and directing the city traffic engineer to erect appropriate signage reflecting such parking regulations. Okay. So, now that it's been read a second time, any other discussion or debate? Second reading of the bill. Seeing none, then uh we'll proceed with the roll call.

Okay. Council member Farmer, yes. Council member Dodwell, yes. Council member Nyan, yes. Council member Ottenberg, yes. Council member Traier, yes. Council member Mabberry, yes. Council member Robooski, abstain. Council member Preston, yes. Council member Marshall, yes. Council member McCutchen, yes. Council member Rambo, yes. Council member Crayons. Council member Vanic, yes. Council member Alers, yes. Council member Galani, yes. All right. And I think we did actually do that second reading because council member abstain is previously too.

So the first uh No, the first didn't have it, but that's all right. We we can check it. All right. So, now that we've concluded all that, we'll move under uh the resolutions are under the consent agenda. So, we have a consent agenda before us. If there is there any objection uh to moving forward with the consent agenda? All right. Seeing none, then can I get a motion for approval of the consent agenda? Made by council member Farmer. Is there a second? Council member Rambo. All those in favor of approving the consent agenda, please say I. I I Anyone oppose or abstain? All right, moving on. Anything under miscellaneous?

Uh, council member McCutchen.

Yes, technically that was part of the consent agenda. Okay. So, uh, anything on the miscellaneous otherwise miscellaneous? Dr. Rambo pass. Yes. I would just like to say thank you to the Wildwood Police Department and St. Louis County Police Department for this lovely pen and uh congratulations for your 30th anniversary in conjunction with ours. Okay, thank you for that. Uh thanks again everyone for your patience. Uh did have a busy night tonight. I appreciate all of your input. Um so can we get a motion to adjurnn? Made by council member Albert, seconded by council member Dodwell. All those in favor, please.