Architectural Review Board - Regular Meeting

Okay, and then she can tell. Okay. Good evening. Hello.

Hello, everyone. I will go ahead and call to order tonight's architectural review board, Wednesday, May 27, 2026. If we can all stand for the pledge. Okay, so first on our agenda, we have the approval of minutes ARB-397, approval of the April 22, 2026 Architectural Review Board meeting minutes.

Make a motion to approve.

Stacey, I move to approve the minutes. Okay, thank you.

Want a second? I'll second the motion.

Okay. Any discussion? No? Okay. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any objections? Hearing none, motion carries.

Okay, so you mentioned some like yes reordering so if we could reorder and it is at the board's discretion Reorder we would like to put a RB 393 which is the third item down Okay, and relocate that to the first item. Okay, and the first item is And unless Mr. Raju, you know, when he gets here, that item can't be heard until that time. So I would just suggest we just keep moving it down until he gets here.

Okay.

Okay. That's it, those two? Yes. Okay, perfect. Thank you. At this time, if anybody here in the public, if any of you plan to speak on behalf of why you're here at this time, you're going to need to be sworn in.

She's going to direct you. Great. Thank you.

Okay, so we are going to go to ARB-393, petition 2026-0020-ARB, 14596, Horseshoe Trace, Alternative Fence Design.

Hi, good evening. Damon Newell with the Planning and Zoning Division. Again, this is petition number 2026-0020-ARB for 14596 Horseshoe Trace. The owner and applicant is requesting ARB approval for alternative design for a six-foot wood plastic fence with two-tone and a black opaque gate. The owner purchased the property in 2014. The property currently has a single family residence and a pool that's under construction. The pool barrier fence permit has not been applied for as yet because the applicant is seeking ARB approval for the material before moving forward. Per the LDRs, ARB may approve an alternative material and design provided that the proposed is compatible with the approved materials and color schemes. This slide is showing existing conditions. As shown on the left, this is the home construction currently underway for the pool, which is on the side yard, because in the backyard there's limited space. So this pool is being constructed on the side. And they are requesting to have the fence along the right side and the left side of the home. This slide is an illustration that shows the survey. Showing in the green outline is the location of the proposed fence. On the right-hand side is the pool and the example of how the fence will look. So that's the alternative design that they're requesting is that that design is not currently on our approved list. The fence faces a right-of-way, which will require to install hedge material. So on both sides, as illustrated on the previous slide, they will have the fence on both sides, and they'll also have gates, single opening gates on both sides. But wherever the fence is, that will have actual hedge materials in front of it. to help screen it. The proposed request is the minimum alternative needed to accomplish the aesthetic look and privacy owner is seeking. The fence has a clean modern design and is architecturally compatible with the existing structure. Based on this, staff did provide four conditions of approval, which are listed in your ARB packet, staff report, and listed on this slide. At this time, this concludes staff's presentation, and I'd like to enter this file into the record. Thank you. And the applicant is also here.

Thank you. Good evening. Would you like to come and say a few words?

I guess she wants to come say some words with me.

Hi. Hi. How are you tonight?

Good.

Little princess. We're glad you're here. Just before any of you speak, if you can just state your first and last name.

Daniel Kowalik.

Great. Thank you. What would you like to share with us?

So we were looking at the options for the city. And a lot of the other ones required a lot of maintenance. And this one's a little bit stronger for hurricane conditions. I was originally looking at solid aluminum. That's also not on the options list for some reason. And black and white were not an option. So I tried to pick something that was close to your approved list, but stronger material that's less maintenance. Combat veterans will just be much easier to maintain long term and stronger for hurricanes. And yeah, that's the color that I could finally get the wife to agree to as well. Smart man.

That's a big piece right there.

Took a while. So our pool is a little bit behind, a couple months now. So we're hoping to get the project on the road if we can. And the fence is solid because it's by the road and we want the privacy. So people walk by there all the time. So we just wanted to have that privacy instead of like a see-through fence. and it's aluminum for strength. The trim around is aluminum as well, aluminum posts. So that's why it's like that design. It's not like built in. So that's what we're requesting, yes.

That's what the pool might look like, yes.

That's a rendered image from using AI, the best I could do.

Understood.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm curious. So the reason this is here is because I know we approved the horizontal fences, but this is because all of the fencing materials and everything that we approved several months ago when we redid the fencing, the material is not on there.

This material and this color is not on it.

And the color is not. Okay.

Is there an HOA involved with this? There shouldn't be. It's on horseshoe. No. One thing to add, like WPC is very common nowadays, right? So is solid aluminum. So I was actually surprised in the color limitations as well. The wife actually wanted white, but I don't know if you guys allow that as well. White? Yeah.

No.

I figured that.

Does it come in one sheet, or is it stacked?

They're just like PVC. They're slats, and they slide in, and they're covered on top of each other for strength, and then they're all framed around with the aluminum posts.

It is very clean looking. It looks very nice.

No neighbor approval needed or anything like that? No.

The neighbors are excited for me to install it, actually. They're willing to remove their hedges and stuff just to get it there.

Because they want to use your pool. Right. They want to figure it out. Everybody has a pool with me, it seems.

And the hedges, Damien, does the village...

Yes. So there is a requirement for it to have hedge material in front of the fence along the right-of-way. So that has to cover the entire fence. So it's not going to be visible from the street once that hedge material grows in. The only section that would be visible is going to be the gates on both sides, which is going to be black.

Do we recommend what type of hedge to put there?

We did not have that in terms of which species to use. So that's going to be up to them. Okay. As long as it's a material that will grow to cover the fence.

Oh, yeah. Number three, required hedge. Did you see that, Sal? Yeah. Number three.

Okay. Is the hedging doesn't cover the gate, though, right? It's just everywhere else? Right. Okay.

So the gate will be visible, which would be two black gates.

One other question, maybe off the beaten path a little bit, is... Considering I see a small child here in pools, and we all know the dangers of that, is a baby fence also required inside of that main fence? Correct.

Yeah, well, it's either a baby fence or some other barrier between the house and the pool. So it's either a baby fence or they have alarms on the doors. So those would be the options that they will be providing. All right.

Very good. And the village inspects that, right? Right.

That'll be part of the pool permit inspections.

I was going to say, that's part of the pool.

That has nothing to do with the fence. Well, the fence is a pool barrier. Right. The fence will be a pool barrier, yeah. But there will be other things, as he mentioned. Okay.

Right, because I know with screen enclosures, when a pool is in a screen enclosure, the owners still have to put a baby fence separating those entrance doors to that pool and everything else like that. Right.

I'm good.

Good. You're good. OK, so I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to open up to the public. Is there anybody here in the public that would like to comment or ask any questions? OK, hearing none, I will close that motion. We have to give that option. So hearing no comments from the public, I'm going to go ahead and close that. Any further discussion? Board? Okay. Would anybody like to make any type of motion?

I'll make a motion to approve ARB-393, petition number 20260020, ARB, for the alternate fence design.

Her staff's recommendations.

Her staff's recommendations.

Okay.

I'll second Sal's motion.

Okay. Any objections to the motion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Hearing none, motion carries.

Good luck. Thank you. Thank you.

You're welcome. Very nice. Thank you. We are going to move on to ARB-392, petition number 2026-0017, ARB 14902-14912, Paddock Drive, Flat Roof.

OK. Next, again, Damian Newell of the Planning and Zoning Division. This is for petition 2026-0017, ARB, for the property located at 14902 and 14912 Paddock Drive. The owner and agent is requesting ARB approval for alternative design for a flat roof for a proposed single-family residence, barn, grooms quarters, which is located within the Paddock 2 subdivision. The owners purchased the property in August of 2024. The property currently has a residence, pool, barn, and sand ring. They are doing a unity of title to unify the two lots. And they're currently in for engineering permits and permits for the new barn and groom's quarters and the residence. The plan is to demolish all the existing structures on the property. So this exhibit is showing the current conditions, the property with the barn and the home and the existing landscaping. This slide is an illustration of the proposed elevations and the materials as provided in your packet. This slide is showing the groom's quarter and barn structures. These structures do meet the minimum requirements for a point system, the design points of 80 points. The main reason this is before the board is because of the flat roof. The flat roof will be screened from view with parapet walls. The property is located in a subdivision where there is not a model home, so each of the homes and the buildings within this area are architecturally different, so there's not a consistent architecture. Other properties throughout Wellington have come before the ARB and requested similar deviations to allow the flat roof. The overall design appearance of the structure is of a high design standard. And again, the minimum points is 80, and they are currently at 85 points based on staff's review. Again, based on consistency with the Land Development Court regulations, the planning staff does provide recommended conditions of approvals that are listed in the staff report. At this time, this does conclude staff presentation, and I'd like to enter this item into the record. And the applicant is here with a presentation.

Thank you, Damien.

Hi, how are you? My name is John Aberkamp.

You can do it in the microphone.

Thank you.

Hi. My name is John Aberkamp, applicant, and I'm an engineer. And the architect is from Mexico, working with a client. And I'll be taking over and doing the engineering and working with the building department to achieve the necessary permits for the project.

Awesome. Great. Thank you.

I did some writing, so bear with me, please. My name is Carolina Cunha-Curtis, and thank you for the opportunity to present the project tonight. With a background in architecture, urban design, and equestrian development, I serve as a project coordinator for this proposal. My role is to coordinate between the overseas lead architect, Bernardo Pozes, and the local engineering team responsible for preparing the permitting set. Tonight we are seeking the board's guidance and approval of the design concept so we can move forward with aligning it to engineering requirements and developing the permitting documents for approval and construction. John Evercamp is the structural engineer overseeing the building permitting set. Stormwater Jay is responsible for site engineering. And Mirror of Paradise is leading the landscape design. This project is the future home of a young equestrian couple who are building both a family and a life centered around their passion for horses. They have developed a deep appreciation for Wellington and are excited to contribute to the community. The property, as mentioned, is located in Paddock Park No. 2 in Wellington and consists of two lots that will be unified into a 4.14-acre site. The proposal includes a main residence, an eight-stall barn, storage areas, groom and caretaker apartments, an arena, a horse walker, six paddocks, and extensive landscaping. The project reflects a high standard of architectural quality. In addition to fulfilling the client's vision for the home, the design has been carefully developed to enhance the surrounding urban environment, with particular attention to how the buildings relate to the street edge. The proposal respects the height limits of the zoning district and provides a generous setback from the street. The flat roof, along with the building form scale, facade composition, material per lead, color, and detailing all contribute to the project's overall character. The design maintains a human scale and preserves the questioned residential character of the neighborhood. We have submitted all requested plans and renderings. And John and I are both here tonight, and we look forward to working with the board toward a successful review and approval process. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Also, Bernardo kindly sent us a video where he shares his vision for the project, the concept.

What should I pass here? Please. Who was it in the video? I'm sorry. Bernardo.

Bernardo Pozes is the lead architect who designed the project.

It's by four divisions. We have a commercial division where we design... Hi, my name is Bernardo Pozas. I'm the founder and creative director of Pozas. Pozas is comprised by four divisions. We have a commercial division where we design skyscrapers, mixed-use buildings, and all types of different commercial buildings. Then we have residential, which is the one that I run in a daily operation, and that's the one we're talking about today. We have interior design, and we have also a branding division. A couple of years ago, a very young and fresh couple approached us from Wellington, and they wanted us to design a house for them. Since I've been doing residential design for 26 years, and so far we have designed more than 400 projects in southern U.S., all over Mexico, and Central America. We sat down with them, started talking about their project, the dream house, and of course they wanted to do some contemporary architecture, which is our specialty. The project is basically a compound. We have the main house, we have the stables, and we have living quarters for all the people who are going to be working there. The master plan is very simple. We position the house to have the main view of the field and the area where the horses are going to be, and we have the stables in the back of the property. The architecture we chose is very simple. We think it's going to be timeless. It's going to be a very fresh contemporary architecture. We're hoping that this is going to add to the area of Wellington, bringing this kind of a fresh air of a new architectural language. And it's going to be very neutral. very simple the materials we're going to be used are going to be carefully selected to blend in with all the surroundings the landscape is going to be very well curated do the same and we're hoping that this project is going to bring a kind of a new draft of fresh air to the area thank you so much for your time and i hope you like the project and we can move on forward great thank you thank you i'm going to go ahead and motion to open to the public any comments

Other than Needing a place to live any other comments Hearing none. I'll go ahead and close the motion board discussion.

I Have a question we're just discussing the roof, correct? And permits have been pulled or not pulled for construction I

There.

No. We have not started the structural or the final mechanical engineering onto it. We have the conceptuals all developed and ready to go. We wanted to have your approval.

Could you speak into the microphone, please?

I'm sorry. So the permit set of packages for the actual permit pulling for the buildings have not been pulled. They've been developed. We've been working with them to try to make sure that we can actually make it stand up. But the civil engineering is ready to go. Stormwater J has been doing that. They've been working with Jim Kelly. Civil engineering is already in. Civil engineering is already in, but the building permit plans are not.

So typically on a lot or a project like this, they would be required to get land development permits first or engineering permits. So that's the stage that they're in. They can't go to building permit until they go through engineering to bring in all of the land development part, the grading, the fill, everything. So that's the stage that they're at. So the design portion... would come at the building permit level. And they can't do that until they get approval for the flat roof.

The million-dollar question for an engineer with a flat roof, how does it drain?

Right.

It will.

We're not sure if we're going to use sloped concrete yet on the roof or if we're going to put insulation, insulate it up there, and then drain it that way. Of course, you have to have scuppers. You have to have positive draining, you know, in order to make it work.

I'm sorry if the question was answered, but what material are you doing, metal? What kind of roof?

For the roof?

Yeah.

Well, it's a parapet wall, so it'll be concrete underneath it. You won't be able to see it. It'll be concrete with the appropriate membrane over the top.

So portions will have a metal roof that it looks like, the peaks?

What's on the stable? There is a peak there, and that was metal roof.

Well, on that previous picture that was just on the screen, I see what you're saying. It does look like the trim all the way around where the roof would be. That's just trim pieces.

So it's just flat concrete. I understand the drainage issue.

The roof is actually a little lower than the highest point that you see.

Okay.

Would anybody like to make any type of motion?

I'll make a motion to approve ARB 392, petition 20260017 per staff recommendations. Do we have a second? I'll second.

You're seconding? Okay. Sorry, I wasn't hearing. Didn't hear you. Any objections to the current motion? All in favor for the motion, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome. Thank you. Have a good night. Good luck.

Can't wait for the party.

I'll be there. I think.

Okay, so one, two, three. Moving down to ARB-395, petition number 2026-0018-ARB, Wellington Learning Center, signage with technical deviations.

All right.

Again, Damien Newell, Planning and Zoning, Wellington Learning Centre, petition number 2026-0018, ARB. The applicant, the owner and the agent is seeking ARB approval for a monument sign with technical deviation for the Wellington Learning Centre, which is located at 1040 Wellington Trace. The site was operated as a daycare since 1984. It was purchased last year by the current owner. And they are currently going through a rebranding from, this is formerly known as the Neighborhood Kids. They are rebranding it to Wellington Learning Center. At that time, it was, well, since 2021, 2022, sometime around that time, there was a post and panel sign that was installed. However, that was not permitted. The current owners are requesting some of the building permit to change the face of it for their rebranding. And at that time, zoning returned it because it was not meeting the requirements. Post and panel signs are typically considered temporary sign, and the design of it is not a monument sign based on the requirements. So this slide is in existing conditions, showing the existing post and panel sign with the existing branding. The applicant is proposing a new sign, and they were going to have it finished to give the appearance of a monument sign, meaning that it will have the structure of material all the way to the base, and they will have landscaping around the base. So the technical deviation also includes separation. Further, the land development regulations, they should be separated 200 feet from another monument type sign. In this case, it's approximately 135 feet. This is some of the requirements for monument sign. Again, monument sign, a freestanding permanent sign with a solid base. And the post and panel is more temporary. It has, in this case, they have an existing post and panel with constructive aluminum tube posts with aluminum panels. And again, it's a temporary sign, so that's something that we wouldn't be able to approve as a permanent sign. As noted before, the ground sign minimum separation is 200 linear feet. The Palm Beach Fire Rescue Station 25 signage is located approximately 135 linear feet. So this requires a technical deviation, which the board would have to approve. This slide is showing the allowed square footage and what they are requesting and the deviations. So the main deviation that's shown on this slide is the separation and the type of sign. The monument sign, as noted before, has to have a solid base. They're requesting to have the post and panel. With the design and how it's going to be installed, it will have landscaping around the base, so that will also help to camouflage the sign design. And the... Let's see. Separation, they provide clear visibility and there is no prior reported issues with the existing sign. Okay, based on the findings in the staff report, staff does provide some recommended conditions approvals as listed in your staff report on this slide. At this time, staff would like to conclude this presentation and enter this item into the record.

Thank you.

I believe the applicant is also here.

Good evening.

Evening, board. I'm here for questions. It's self-explanatory.

Your name?

Gil Strelick, Sinorama. 40 years in the industry, Palm Beach County, South Florida.

Okay. Thank you.

Very small sign. It's underneath what we're allowed, et cetera, et cetera. It speaks for itself.

Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Motion to open to the public. There are no comments from the public. I'll close the motion. Board discussion.

So we're free to ask him questions. Yeah, absolutely. So why is your customer, why do they not want to put a monument sign up?

I guess maybe cost. I don't know the exact reason for that. But obviously, we're allowed a bigger sign, but probably maybe cost. And the sign that was there illegally or put in by the previous owner, they did not know. Originally, we went in for a face change permit. We were just going to repanel the face with the new logo and the new name. And then after we submitted the face change permit, it came to light that the sign was never permitted. That's why we're here.

And I understood Damon to say that there's gonna be landscaping.

Oh, yeah, we're gonna put in the I forgot what did whatever they called on there the ten-foot Yeah, we're gonna put some low-lying landscape on there with mulch and whatever.

Yes So it'll look like a monument.

It'll look it'll look like a bermed monument.

Yep Which will be maintained

Would anyone like to make some type of motion I'll make a motion to approve petition number 20 26 0 0 1 8 ARB Wellington Learning Center signage according to staff recommendation and summary Thank You second I'll second

Thank you, Sal. Any objections to the motion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Hearing none, motion carries. Beautiful. Thank you, board. Have a great evening. You're welcome. Good evening. Let's move on to ARB-398, petition number 2026-0019-ARB, out parcel building, Wellington Town Square.

Okay. Yes. So this is, again, petition number 2026-0019-ARB, Wellington Town Square, building wall sign and paint color. The owner-applicant is here seeking ARB approval for the exterior colors and wall signs for the current parcel building, which was formerly the PNC Bank at the town center project. The subject site is located at the southeast intersection of Forest Hill Boulevard and Ken Adams Way. The subject building was built in 1986. As noted, it was a former PNC bank. The applicant acquired the property in 2025 and has recently done improvements to the site, including interior work, updating the landscaping, exterior painting, and repaving and striping the parking lot area. The request is for the exterior color, which was painted before going to the board. There was some misunderstanding when they were seeking direction. My understanding is that they may have called in and asked about the color, but it may have been represented that they did not need it, assuming that it was for a residential property. But because this is a commercial property, it does need ARV approval. The other item that they are seeking approval is for the wall signage and a technical deviation for that request. This slide is illustration showing the colors. The actual colors are provided in your, color samples are provided in your ARB packet. On the right-hand side, these are actual pictures of the building already painted. The roof was painted. The walls and trims were all painted. So that's all been done. The wall signs. The main reason for the technical deviation is the applicant is requesting to have their primary wall sign, which is based on the code requirements, is allowed where they have their principal entrance, their primary entrance. In this case, the applicant is requesting it to have it on an elevation that does not have any entrance to the building. And they're also requesting the secondary signs on the other facades, which is required to be 50% of the allowed principal wall sign. The height they're requesting is 60 inches instead of the allowed 30 inches for the principal wall sign. So this slide is an illustration of the property location and showing the location of the wall signs. Again, the primary wall signs on the northeast facade, which faces Forest Hill Boulevard. The secondary wall sign, the first one, is going to be along where the main entrance is, and then the um second secondary sign number two is going to be where the existing drive-through canopy is located which is facing more internal to the shopping center parking area which is where the public's is This slide is illustrating what's allowed by the code and what they're requesting. As we can see on the chart here, they are meeting all the requirements in most cases well below what's allowed. But the main difference is for the height of the primary wall sign, again, they're requesting 60 inches where 30 inches is allowed. So that's a deviation of 30 inches. And then the other main technical deviation is to allow the principal wall sign on the northeast facade, which does not have an entrance. Based on the findings provided in the staff report, staff does provide recommended conditions of approval as outlined in your staff report. The paint colors are on the approved Wellington color chart, and they are compatible with the surrounding area, especially the updates that were done to the Wellington Town Square shopping center recently. The deviation for the primary wall sign on the north will help enhance the building's aesthetic, and that facade will provide visibility for the tenant. All recent works are needed improvements for that building and site that was originally developed in 1986. And again, staff does provide recommended conditions, a total of seven, as outlined in your staff report. At this time, staff would like to conclude their presentation and enter this item into the record. The applicant is also here, and they do have a presentation.

Hello. Joni Lou Yat. I don't actually have a presentation, but I think what Damien shared is pretty self-explanatory. We would like to have the main sign be facing Forest Hill just for more exposure to the public. And I mean, that's the biggest thing. So the 60 inches is really like the flame is what's going to be the height. And the rest of it is not going to be 60 inches all the way across.

Can I ask a question? Yeah. Are we at that point?

So, okay. Are you done just sharing what you were sharing for right now? Okay, great. Motion open to the public.

Anybody like to say anything?

Hearing no comments from the public, I'll close the motion. Board discussion?

OK. So currently, the sign is on Ken Adams' way, correct? The PNC sign was on Ken Adams Way. It was never on Forest Hill.

Correct.

You're asking to have it on Forest Hill and Ken Adams Way and in the shopping center.

There was a sign on Forest Hill as well, but we're asking for a deviation for Forest Hill to be like the main sign so that we can have a bigger sign due to the limitations.

Okay. And then keeping a sign on Ken Adams Way within guideline and then adding where the drive-through is with no entrance. Correct. Why?

For exposure so that people in the parking lot can see.

Okay. So there's two items, right? The paint color?

Correct.

And the signage?

Correct.

But just the one sign, the Forest Hill Boulevard sign.

Right, the deviations that are being requested for the Forest Hill sign, the code allows them to have the primary sign and up to two secondary signs. So they are requesting those two secondary signs to be on the main entrance and then the other one on the rear of the building, which the code does allow for.

So the only real difference is that the- We're moving it to Forest Hill. Right. Primary one. Swapping the primary and the secondary so that the one that's on Forest Hill is larger.

And without the flame, the lettering would be within the- Damien.

No, she wants the flame.

I know she wants the flame.

He's asking if the flame wasn't there, would the rest of the wording?

Is the rest of the wording in compliance?

It looks like it's bigger than what it would be.

It may be bigger than the 30-inch. Let's see.

Because that piece by the drive-thru is so small.

So it's 27 inches for the two letterings. One's at 16 inches, and then the bottom one is 11 inches. so that would be that would be um well is that together or individually individually together it may be at the exact 30 inches because we boxed them in um so at that in that situation it'd probably be at 30 inches with a space in between so that would be approximately the 30 inches that they're allowed right correct and the deviation is for the so then you're looking at 15 inches higher than the wording 15 inches lower than the wording just on the flame

I don't have a big deal with the flame being above. I was concerned with the rest of the lettering also being above the 30 inches.

I'm just looking at the lettering.

Is it a lit sign, backlit? Yes. Yes.

The color of the backlit is white. The backlight.

So the flame would be red, and then the rest of it would be white.

There's no issues with that, right, Damien?

No. Well, that's part of their trademark logo.

So that's their brand. Yes.

So the only thing is, based on the way the condition is written now, it's 60 inches overall. So as I said before, we box it. So it would be 60 inches for everything, unless the board changed that to be more specific for the logo to be 60 inches.

Right. I think it would be important to indicate that the lettering itself should not be more than 30 inches if if standing on its own and the deviation is just for the emblem yet this if that's the board's not make the part of the motion to amend staff recommendation

So are there, is there any, so you're not looking for approval on signage number two in the parking lot. That's their right to do it anyway as long as it's within guidelines.

We're just looking to move it. Correct. The primary. And the colors.

Which would be sign one. So where it's labeled secondary wall sign one, that's where the primary is supposed to be. Right. And they can have a secondary on the other wall.

So they're just asking to flip those. They're asking to flip. Ken Adams and primary.

Yeah. So if someone wants to make a motion, is there any discussion in regards to the paint? no it's colors yeah right and and they already did it yeah but I mean it it looks okay that's fine okay so anyone that makes any type of motion

We're adjusting what? The 30 inches?

Include you are, what's in front of us is the paint colors. But it's okay, or not okay, or whatever. What's already been painted.

Well, can we separate it? Because there's going to be. We can.

You can make a motion to approve, separate it, as presented by staff, with the condition that the 60 inches be limited to the emblem or the logo. The flame and that 30 inches is the warning. And then the rest would still, you know, we'd be able to modify that one condition and the rest would still apply if that's your desire.

And the secondaries would be okay, if that's what somebody's doing.

What she said. No, I meant to separate the paint colors. I don't know if you have to, though. Just approve that and then just do the amendment on the 60 to 30.

Okay.

In the flame.

Someone like to attempt to word?

I'd like to make an emotion. Let's hear it. To approve ARB 398-2026-0019 with the following caveat that, well, first, the paint color be approved. Right. and the as far as the signage is concerned only the logo the branded logo to exceed 30 inches no more than 60 inches and all existing lettering pertaining to the signs be within the 30 inch recommended range of staff what do you think

And the other recommended conditions as presented.

It's your motion.

Save me.

And your motion that it's okay for it to be on Forest Hill Boulevard.

Yes, yes. And approval of the... Three signs, the changing from the main sign to Forest Hill Boulevard, and the approval of the signage two and three, the additional two signs. OK. Got that? Is that enough for you, Damian?

I got that. I want you to repeat it. Yeah, please.

Repeat that word for word. Do we have a second?

Not a shot.

I'll second the motion.

Any objections to the motion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, motion carries. ARB-396, petition number 2026-0021-ARB, club studio signage.

For the record, Damian Newell, petition number 2026-0021, ARB. The applicant and agent are requesting ARB approval for the rear wall sign with technical deviation for the Club Studio project, which is located at 1018 Forest Hill Boulevard, with an MUPDD of the Wellington Green project. The owners purchased the property in 2019, and they are currently going through a rebranding from LA Fitness to Club Studio. Received ARB in 2003 with technical deviation for the rear wall sign. That was the LA Fitness. Did receive prior approvals. However, the approvals do not transfer to the new tenant, so they are requesting to have the wall sign as previously permitted. They did apply for a remodel permit for the exterior, which the slides as we go through are showing some of the changes that they're going to be making, but this is not part of tonight's review. It's just the rear wall sign. So, again, as noted, the signs are in for permitting and they were returned based on the fact that they do not meet the requirements. This slide is showing the existing LA Fitness, both the front and the rear, currently how they are, their signage. This is the proposed sign, which is 131 square feet. Again, this illustration does show the future renovations that they're going to be doing to the exterior, but this is not something that's part of this approval. This table shows the allowed, requested, and the deviation. So allowed, they are allowed 65 square feet. They're requesting 131 square feet, a deviation of 65 square feet. They're also requesting deviation in the height. Allowed is 22 inches, and they are requesting 44 inches. And this is just for the rear wall sign. This does conclude staff's presentation. I'd like to enter this item into the record. And we do have four recommended conditions of approval if the board does approve this item, as listed in your staff report and on this slide. And the applicant is here.

Good evening.

Hi, Will Lonsdale with Heights Venture Architects. And I don't have a presentation. I'm just here if there's any questions.

OK, perfect. Thank you. That's a big sign. I have a motion to open to the public.

Anybody?

It's fun when there's literally nobody out there. Hearing no comments from the public, I'll go ahead and close the motion. Board discussion?

So what we're doing with Club Studio Sign is perhaps approving the same technical deviations that were approved by previous ARB.

And we're only discussing the rear sign. Correct. That's the only sign we're discussing right now. Okay. And is this sign that they're requesting, is it the same size as the LA Fitness sign?

I'm not sure.

That was approved before?

If it was the same size.

I know that they requested a deviation for the previous LA, but I don't know if this...

So is the sign that's going up replacing the sign that's there the same size?

I'm not sure if it's the same size.

Do you know, sir?

I don't know. I'm not sure.

Pretty good question, though, huh?

It is a good question. I doubt the square footage is the same.

I was just asking since we were saying that it's replacing a sign that's already there that got approval.

You may have to be sworn in, though. Were you sworn in when you came in? He wasn't.

Yeah. Thank you.

raise your hand do you sort of saw the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth okay and you are yes i i'm bob stevens i'm director of development with fitness international club studio la fitness and the rear sign was the same as the front sign on an existing building and those signs were five foot tall 60 inch letters and i want to say they were 41, 42 feet in length. So we're a little over 200 square feet on both sides.

So we're actually a little bit shorter.

We're a little bit shorter and a little not as tall. And also the logo on the front goes away. We no longer use that.

But we're talking about the rear, correct? Right. In the rear, there's no logo, correct?

There's no logo in the rear. Right. So we're just talking about... And that's what we're talking about. Yeah.

Correct. And the rear is half the size of the front sign, correct? Or it's supposed to be half the size of the front, typically?

It's supposed to be part, but they're requesting them to be the same size.

Okay. As they currently are.

These aren't the same size, the ones that are there right now?

Yes, they are the same size of each other.

the yes the exist in L. A. I'm front and rear signs are the same size with the exception of the logo from guess.

So we're just replacing you have the same size might actually just be smaller correct. It's a little more sense.

Then they like to make any type of motion.

I'll move that ARB 396 petition number 20260021 club studio signage be approved per staff's recommendations.

Thank you. Is there a second?

I'll second that.

Thank you, Sal. Any objections to the motion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed? Hearing none, motion carries. You're welcome. Thank you. Have a good night. ARB-399, petition number 2026-0023-ARB, Lotus One Degree Wellness Signage.

Yes, Damien Newell, Planning and Zoning. Petition number 2026-0023, ARB. This is for the degree wellness at Lotus Wellington. The owner and the applicant is requesting ARB approval to allow window covering signs with technical deviation for tenant bay 102 in building seven of the Lotus One mixed use project, which we're all familiar with. The Lotus 1 project is located north of Forest Hill Boulevard and State Road 7 intersection. The subject building, which is Building 7, which was before the board in the past year or so, is located on the south side of the main road. This building is now completed. The tenants are in doing interior work. Degree Wellness is finalizing their interior work within Bay 102. This slide again is showing the location on the aerial and on the site plan. The red box outline and the star that's shown here is the location of that building. And the storefront in question, which will have the window sign, is on the west side of that building. The request of the applicant is to allow 100% window covering and signage on the storefront glass on the west facade of that tenant bay. The code, LDR, allows a maximum of 50% coverage for each window panel. And of all the windows on that facade, no more than 25% of them should be covered. So again, based on the fact that they are requesting 100% coverage of the window panels and all the windows on that elevation does require ARB approval for technical deviation. So the current conditions and the issues. The current condition is that they have interior walls that were used to subdivide the space based on their use. And those walls now have unfinished exposed areas that's visible. If you look in the pictures here you can see the walls and in some cases you can also see a utility room with a water heater. They do have some black vinyl that is on the window in the upper section highlighted with the red outline that is currently there. their interior wall their interior space this is one of the space which is a hallway and iv lounge area that they're going to be utilizing that area is located where you're seeing the double doors here that's where that location is just for reference So we have the option, the applicant's request, which is shown on this slide, is to cover all the windows on that side with the vinyl covering and consist of branding for that space. Staff recommendation is to be more in line with where the needs are and being consistent with a black vinyl, which will probably blend in more with the aesthetics of the building. And as part of that, they would still be allowed to do the 50% that is allowed by code, but the main part of it, the blackout or the opaqueness that's needed, would be only in the areas shown in this illustration with the black vinyl tint. So based on this staff findings, the request for deviation to allow the covering is needed for those areas with the unfinished wall and the utility room. So that is something that staff provided recommended condition of approval based on if the board does approve it. 100% window coverage is not necessarily needed to accomplish that. However, the applicant is requested to provide it for their branding of their space. And the staff does provide five recommended conditions of approval as provided in the ARB staff report. The conditions do limit the black vinyl to areas that need the privacy and allow the other areas to be covered with signage and covering allowed by the code, which even the covering itself, the code allows it to be, the opaqueness of it to be up to 50% versus 100%. So they do have that option. At this time, staff concludes the staff presentation, and I'd like to enter this item into the record. The applicant is here, and they do have a presentation also.

Thank you.

Hi, everybody. Thanks for your time. We're Bill and Lauren Adams from Degree Wellness, excited to bring this franchise to Lotus Plaza in Wellington, which everybody seems to call the Cooper's Hawk Plaza. It's what's becoming known as now, which is great for us, actually. One thing that Damian may have not had in his presentation is there's actually four benefits to having these wall coverings, just to describe exactly what they are. These are vinyl. clings that go on the side of the window. They are perforated. They call that in that industry perforated vinyl. So you can see out but not in. Right. Kind of like if you can imagine it. This is how I had to wrap my head around it. If you imagine a Palm Tran bus or a Disney bus where they have the vinyl wraps on the side that you can see out but not in provides privacy. These actually provide four things. First and foremost, they do cover the exposed walls on the western side. This is not the front of our business. This is the west side of it, covering up those exposed walls. It also provides much-needed shade and privacy for our guests who are going to be in there. That western sun is really something, and we have guests in there who are expecting a pretty luxurious experience. It also... we feel adds to the aesthetic of not only lotus which has already approved uh the proposed designs of these kind of like if they were an hoa uh but they also we feel uh are in line with the aesthetic of wellington itself so uh to be able to cover those western side windows is pretty much needed in this business to be able to cover it, that they have to be covered with something anyway. The proposal and the little black vinyl that he pointed out there would be a really, really ugly look in the plaza. It would chop those windows to like thirds to be able to cover those. So that's why we're proposing these vinyls to cover the side. It's actually the preferred design from Lotus itself. So we feel that would satisfy needs of both the guests, Lotus, Wellington, and us.

Let me also add that the way the windows, the way the walls are set up, there's no, it's not like we could just cover three windows and leave some empty because there's dividing walls throughout each of the windows. Except, the only exception for that would be like, well, part of the lobby, I don't have the best picture of that. But you could see like the green or the exposed walls, it doesn't line up with the windows. So like each specific window has a wall in it. So it's not like we could just cover three panels and leave three panels open. And the doors that you see are not going to be functioning doors. They will look like windows from the IV lounge. So it won't be an exit. We have the exit in the front and an exit in the back. So we don't have the need for the side to be an exit.

We're the corner unit there. The reason why there are even exposed walls in the first place is because it's all window on that side. In other words, in any other normal location, that would be a solid wall. Our wall are door-to-door windows, front-to-back windows.

We also, when we looked at the black, because we try to look at all the different options when we looked at the black, it would make the interior rooms dark and gloomy. And so someone that's coming for wellness, they want a bright room. light energy kind of feeling. It's going to feel like it's raining inside if we have opaque on the outside. So that's why we chose the perforated, because from the outside, it's aesthetically pleasing. But from the inside, you still have light. It'll take away some of the hot sun in the afternoon, but you'll still be able to have it so it's light and airy. So it has that kind of spa wellness feel. And we thought that just a plain black would not. Lotus is a beautiful plaza. We just thought the black would just not be up to the elevated aesthetics of the community.

From speaking with other tenants that are in Lotus, they said, you're not going to just put black vinyl on there, are you? So going by what they would like as well.

So there's a mock-up of what that's what it would look like. So if you see, each of those window panels has a wall in the middle of it. So we just thought like, you know, six black panels. And you can't see the door in that picture just because of the angle, but there's the door there. And the door has just the light colored with some graphics with our hours.

That would not be functioning doors. That's basically a wall. It's walled off for a room.

Can you keep that up?

Sorry.

Are you guys good? Do you have anything else you want to add? No, do you have any questions for us?

I'm going to go ahead and motion to open to the public. Hearing no comments from the public, I will close the motion. Board discussion or questions? I have so many questions.

Go ahead, start. So the coverings... Is this exactly how you would have it, or is that just an example of what the logo and everything would be like?

This is what we are proposing that we'd like to do. What you would like to do? Because we feel like we have to cover all of the windows in order to cover all of the exposed walls.

And staff is saying no. They're recommending that it be partial panels only of where clients would be, excluding the utility. Utility will be all covered.

Correct utility all cover and where we notice the arm the expose wall on fish wall would be covered. Those are where it's definitely needed. Anything above that would be additional. If you want to have one finish to it and have it all the same, then that's also an option. But our recommendation is based on what is the need, which is the ultimate need is to provide the screening of those interior spaces.

So if the screen is not there, and according to the pictures, there's someone getting an ID. You'd see them. You would see them. That would give them no privacy, and that would not be comfortable for them.

And we can't, because of the way the windows don't line up with the walls, I think it would look really weird to have a wall that had half covered and half not.

So are the walls permitted correctly though? I'm just trying to understand like an unfinished wall to a window that has no, you see what I'm saying? Like here's an unfinished wall and then here's a window. You can see it in this picture behind you. I have it in front of me. Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that. I thought you had to turn around.

Yeah, so if you see, like, the one in the middle, it's like there's a wall, like, where that steel beam is.

Exactly. The walls, in other words, inside the interior rooms didn't line up exactly with those, what do they call, window stanchions?

What are you going to do?

So this. Yes.

We're trying to cover that.

Right.

Okay.

It doesn't line up with the wall.

Right. Window frame. The frame. It doesn't line up with the frame. Exactly.

So can you go now to the proposed? Sure. And by the way, so my question for the village is, all right, I'm looking at six panels here. Correct. With the different designs and covering.

Mm-hmm.

So we're saying that because that's covering 100% of that window, it's not in?

It's not allowed by code.

So what would the village proposal be for those six panels?

So again, the proposal will be to cover it with the vinyl needed to provide the privacy and to screen the areas and not necessarily the branding. So that's one.

Can there be middle ground where it can be partially this and not?

So if I understand correctly, what they're saying, it would be like the black vinyl.

Right.

Which then they're saying that makes everything so dark on the inside.

Right.

Is what they're saying.

Is there middle ground that you can get to where?

So the three windows really six panels.

Right.

Plus two doors.

Right.

That won't be doors.

You can't see the two doors in the picture. One, two.

One, two, three, then a couple of doors. And then four, five, six on the other side.

It's an AI mock-up, so it kind of, I lost the doors.

We did the best we could with that.

Oh, okay.

Where the model is, that's going into the cold tub, those are the doors. Three windows on the left, three windows on the right.

Is there a bottom panel to those windows? Yes.

You can see, if you look on the right-hand side under self-care, those are just sort of that same whited-out color.

And is that consistent with the three panels on the left, that bottom? Yeah. Correct.

It's at the bottom, and it's at the very top also. Yeah.

So what happens if they have nothing on the bottom and then nothing all the way up top above the thing? Does that affect any of the percentage?

If they go black on the bottom with that bottom row, then have the decorative design and then the opaque on the top also, would that get them within code?

no it's not 50 so basically it's again it's 50 of each of the panel each of the glass panel so if you take them individually it's still 50 of it and what are they supposed to do with the other 50 sorry leave it open so people walking by will see it so again that's that's the reason why they're before the board is because the code doesn't allow um the 100 coverage so we you can allow it per based on the technical deviation right

If I could, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead. I just wanted to add the actual designs themselves. We're franchisees. We have to also get approval from corporate for any outside window coverings. This is what they're insisting on as well. So that's another battle.

Okay, so you'll have some type of image on these panels. Just what you see. No, they said that's not exactly what this was a chat GPT mock-up.

No, I was just trying to show that the way, so on the right side, it shows four windows. It's actually where the model is. That's actually doors and then three window panels.

So the images may not be this, but they'd be similar to this.

Very similar, probably not as, it's tough to put this together in a mock-up to show you guys, but probably not as striking, you know what I mean? There would be like a more subtle, I think, but I should say similar images though.

i i don't think i mean if if i can speak openly i don't want to be in a chair and somebody looking at me in the parking lot there's got to be some form of privacy i i i agree with that i i don't think and i wouldn't want it to be a blackout shade either because i would not want to look like i'm in a

Say that again, Maria.

If I'm sitting in a seat looking to get an IV or what I'm not very familiar with.

Compression massage, red light therapy, oxygen therapy.

I don't think I want to be seen by the public as people walking down to Smush Burger on the corner over there or Cooper's Hawk. I wouldn't want to be. I would want that type of privacy.

Right. And again, staff recommendation is to provide the privacy. The question is, and the black...

Whether it be black opaque or...

right well again you have options and if you recall the board has approved several other locations in Wellington and the black is one that would be more consistent with the architecture and the finish of a tinted window so that's why staff did recommend that but if you did go with a white a gray they have it in multiple colors and the other benefit of the material that they're using even if it's the black color, it still allows light to come in. So the staff is recommending the screening. The question really comes down to whether it's 50% of the whole thing. No, again, that's something that's fine. It comes down to the... whether that covering is consistent with branding or just a plain color or a combination of. So the applicant is requesting it to be mostly branding. So if the board does approve that, that's what we'll permit. The other option, staff recommendation, is to provide the screening that's needed. And maybe at that time, the 50% will be for their branding. So 50% of the screen will be branded in the whole panel. Instead of the whole panel. So that's also an option.

Got it. Do you recall anywhere in Wellington that they have these right now?

Yes. If the board recalls over the past... I think the last one we have maybe two, three years ago. It's mainly in the industrial park area, where they have the.

Fortune way with the horses and stuff. We did the front panels, the silhouettes.

They needed it because of their merchandise. They needed to provide the saddles and stuff. So that's something. And I would want to say we had maybe five or six different locations that have some variation of it. I looked at them recently. I can't say they were consistent. So we have from full coverings similar to this to ones that have just the vinyl solid color.

I also think it's important that the village knows and the board knows exactly what is going to be the image. Yeah, what the image is going to be. To tell us

No, this is the image. This is the image that our franchisees want. This is what they're recommending that we do.

That's what I thought she said before. I know when you asked, they said something different.

Right, because I imagine the one is red light therapy is the everyday. The sauna is the first one.

Services. That's the blue one, your. That's cryotherapy.

OK. Now I know which studio we're looking at. OK.

I think I meant by the difference, like just the brightness of it, I think. It was hard to recreate.

But the images, I understood it to be the images or what the images are.

Those are the exact images.

I did notice a couple, if I can add to that, too, a couple of other local businesses nearby, because as now we're, this is top of mind all the time now. There was a Salt Suite business, I think. Salt the Spa. That has... They're beautiful. For their windows, they have 100%. And I think there's another Pilates studio on 441 that just recently went top to bottom finals.

The builder doesn't have a problem with this?

Actually preferred this Imagery over black vinyl they actually requested it but where is this located within Lotus?

This is if you come in It's on the south side of the main drive the building all the way in the back close to the parking garage This would face the parking garage And the future.

So it's kind of off the beaten path, so to speak.

And it's west facing. It's not our front. Our front is totally wide open and clear. This is not the front. This is only the side.

West facing. West in exposure. They're almost done with that access road going to the medical, facing that side and that big parking garage.

You look like you had a question for us.

No, I was saying west exposure? Right. West side. Yeah, it's not the front. Western sun exposure.

Oh, western sun exposure. I was like, western?

Yeah, the western sun, it's a lot.

It's intense. You don't really know until we build it out.

I know that. We don't want people sweating while they're getting their IVs. Although then we could put them in cryotherapy. It's all a business. All right.

So it would be on non-black vinyl, is that correct? It would be on an opaque screen? What's the base of the screen? Is it still just like a vinyl?

It's a vinyl.

That would be colored, this, instead of a black?

Exactly. Blackout. Right, that you can see out but not in.

Have you been on a Disney bus?

No, I refuse to go to Disney. I'm kidding. Totally get it. I know what you got.

I got it. It's like when you look at the bus, you see it.

It's like a tent. You can see out. They can't see in.

Yeah. So privacy.

We can't see him. He can see us.

For privacy and shade.

I got it.

Would anybody like to make any type of motion?

Can I ask a question?

Sure.

Before this gets tabled, I see this happening. The imagery, can it be reduced from 100%?

You'd see the wall. You'd see the exposed wall. But the screen would be full. You'd be able to walk by and still see it, is what they're saying.

So you would still be able, if you have the material, again, the image itself It could be on there. The background could still have a blackout, or it could be a gray finish. Again, it could be all the same material, but you don't necessarily have to have a large image like that. So the privacy, you can accomplish the privacy by having that same material that you can see out, but you can't see in with no background.

Right. Get Brandon on it at all. Privacy is not the issue. That would be correct. I think it's looking at it from the outside.

I see staff's recommendation now. Because when we did Polo or when we did Fortune Way, I think it was over there, their windows were much smaller. So to cover the whole window was not a big deal. These windows are what?

But with that one, I will say we allowed them to cover. But they covered every one of their windows.

Correct. But their window size was smaller. It was in an industrial park. And I think the graphics was limited as well.

Well, this is on the back side by the parking garage, so it's not front-facing. They have other windows is what they're saying. I'm just saying, just to clarify. We have more windows in the front than we do on the side. They've got more windows everywhere else that will have nothing.

And this will eventually be exposed to the hospital when the hospital starts coming across that street, that right-of-way.

Right.

They'll see that coming north. That street. Right.

This is the west side. To the west of this, still in development, is the medical office buildings within Lotus and also the apartment buildings.

The flats are right there, right? And the garage.

Yeah, the garage is already constructed. But to the west is going to be it's not shown. I have a site plan, but it's a cut off.

This is the side window. You're talking about the western. So this street is the street coming out of Wellington Regional.

Correct.

This will be on the right hand side.

So if you look. On this slide, Building 7, which is the red outline, on the west side of that is where their signage is.

This is where you want to do it?

Right. On this, where the cursor is right now, that's where they want to have the... the covering, and then this is the north-south.

It may not be exposed now, but once that right-of-way comes out and that garage and everything, everybody coming out of the hospital and everything, they're all going to see it. I mean, it's going to be exposed. Right down the street, yeah. I mean, it's not active now, but it will be an active road.

As you go over in this area is where the medical office buildings are, and then in this area is where the apartments are. Correct.

So I understand the privacy piece of it. I also understand that it doesn't have to be black. It could be a light gray and still be seen with partial imagery and still get what they want and what the village would like based on staff recommendation.

Correct.

Correct. I got it. And your franchise wants to use all of it. Of course. Because it's marketing. Right.

It's exposure. It helps people get in.

Welcome to Wellington. Do they have a sign or anything? Do they have any type of sign that goes up back there? Not on this side. Not on this side. We have it in the front. There's no sign. They just have the one front. Do they have any side ones?

There is one. This slide kind of shows it in the lower right-hand corner. That's their frontage, and they have a degree wellness sign on the canopy here. And then this is their main entrance into the suite. This area is where the, I believe one of the lounge area is, is this area here.

Those vinyls are gone. Now. Those were temporary.

Those are our pre-sales vinyl.

So those are all guys have been taken down So that's quite open to a lobby Where these trees are is what we're talking about

Correct. So if you turn, go continue down on this side here, this is where their vinyl is on this elevation, which is the west elevation.

Because that building in the far right corner is the parking garage for the Wellington Regional Hospital.

No, this is Lotus.

It's like Cooper's Hawk Valley parking.

Wellington Regional is way back in there.

And it's also further down.

That's the Lotus parking garage.

I don't have a big problem with it. I think it's professionally done. I think it's neat. I think it's clean. I think it adds to it.

I like the color.

I like the pop. Go for it.

Are you going to make a motion, Sal?

Yes, my last motion.

I am going to... Oh, we have one more.

I'm sorry. I'm going to make a motion. TO APPROVE ARB 399 PETITION NUMBER 20260023 AS PER THE REQUESTERS, APPLICANTS' REQUESTS.

SECOND. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MOTION? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, motion carries.

Thank you. Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you. We hope to see you guys there. Yeah. Thank you.

So the last item we will not have a quorum for. So I'm sorry, sir. Are you able to attend the June 24th?

So my question to you guys, and I just spoke to my client.

If you can, take a step. So why can you not?

I was going to say, I was going to explain. OK. But I didn't. Yeah. Go ahead.

You can go ahead. I'm Jason Frerichs. I'm the contractor for Chef David White. I understand that you have a reason to recuse yourself as a summer. So I understand that. And I understand that the other gentleman is not going to be able to make it tonight. But my question is, if he doesn't make it to the next meeting or somebody else doesn't make it to the next meeting, we're never going to get a quorum. So I just want to know. just so we're not waiting forever.

So if I can just interject for a second. So first I want to just clear up that we're talking about ARB-394, petition number 2026-0016, ARB 1641 South Club Drive, alternative design for Pergola. And just to clarify, to have it on record, I have to recuse myself from this because it's considered a conflict of interest, not because I'm friends with Pergola the applicant but I'm also his realtor and within the last two years I have made over the dollar amount of $10,000 is the maximum of compensation in my relationship with him so because of that I have to recuse myself and unfortunately he was supposed to be he was supposed to be here not sure where he is the other one is gone I Of course, we can't promise you, everybody, but typically there's seven of us. Today is actually, he said that this is the last motion he might make because it's the end of a two-year term, so he is not going to be on the board moving forward. I'm actually going to make a comment to the public. Hey there, Ms. Lilly Cho. How are you tonight? Just curious, will you be in attendance at our next board meeting since you are going to be on the Architectural Review Board starting in June?

There you go.

You better be here. I won't.

I'm sorry. I will not be here in June. I am on vacation.

I know. I talked to Hadar. She said she would be here.

Now, you also have to understand we're four weeks away, and so much can happen between now and then. Does this actually fall, though, in the approval that we've given? Will council be meeting prior to June 24th of all the pergolas moving forward?

No. The zone and the text amendment is on the agenda for PZB in June, and then July it would be council.

Okay. Okay. So we... Ann has a question.

I won't be here on the 24th.

Okay.

No.

So for us, I mean, we've already applied for the permit. We've got materials staged. We're ready to, you know... We got the HOA approval already that came through.

Might need to see if we can move our meeting.

Can we get an email?

Like, I could vote via email. No, unfortunately, we're not allowed to do that. But what we could do is Kelly will return next week. We can find out if we could potentially have a special meeting maybe within the next week or so to where we can get at least four members. Mm-hmm. That are not a conflict. Yeah, that would be fair.

That would be appropriate.

We also have to check our schedule because, for example, this month we do not have a PZAB meeting. So that date, possibly next Wednesday, or it wouldn't be next Wednesday, it would be... It would have passed already. It would have been last week. We can find out if there is, we have to make sure the room is available and that it's not in conflict with any other meetings.

So if we can talk to, Kelly is a staff member who is.

She's the liaison.

The liaison for these meetings. She's actually on vacation. So if we can follow up with her.

Yeah, and what I'll do, I'll check with the clerk's office and find out what we have available and what would be needed to have a special meeting, and then we can address the special meeting via email and let you know if that's a possibility and make sure that there will be enough people here. If not, my suggestion, because you would have to make a motion to postpone this to a date certain, so I would... You don't have to? No. You wouldn't want to? All right. Because typically we would, if it was a PZEB item, we would postpone it until the next meeting. But if we call a special meeting, then it could happen prior to that. Yeah.

Could I ask a question? Sure. So can someone from ARB... contact the applicant, which is David White. I'm just his contractor. He's doing a cooking show or something somewhere. So he said, Jay, can you show up for him? Sure, I can. But let him know that this was not my fault as his contractor. Well, since I've already recused myself, I will call Dave. Yeah, just like explain what's going on because, you know. I'm ready to build the job for him.

He's not going to understand anyway, but I'll call him.

All right, I appreciate that.

We'll be happy to speak with him as well.

Yeah, and then staff can speak with him. Staff will let him know and let me know. Damien, you have all of our contact info and stuff. I hope everybody has a great summer, great vacation.

I hope we can get this. We hope the other gentleman showed up. We're sorry. Absolutely. He is. You still got it. Absolutely.

Thank you. Is that correct? Yeah, that's fine.

Thank you. Any further comments from staff? Thank you. Any comments from the board? Sal, we're going to miss you. Yes.

I'm being called up to the big leagues, apparently. What?

What are you trying to say about us here, buddy? What do you think, with the yellow bananas? Wow.

What a way.

Chopped liver?

Let me shut off this.

Well, it's been a pleasure working with all of you. I'll be back. Yeah, all of you.

Thank you for holding the gavel the way you did.

Absolutely. I forget it's bigger.

Very, very, very well. Thank you. You've done a great job.

Thank you. Thank you. My pleasure. It's been great to serve with you all, and this meeting's adjourned. Thank you very much. We're off the air. Okay.

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