Architectural Review Board - Regular Meeting

Fine. Thank you. Just kidding. You were. So welcome to the architectural view board meeting for Wednesday, April 22.

Calling the meeting to order. Let's go ahead and do the pledge. Okay. So we are going to move on to the approval of minutes. So we have ARB-three 90 approval of 03/25/2026 Architectural View Board meeting minutes.

I'd like to make a motion to approve, the meeting

minutes. I'll second. Okay.

Thank you. Any discussion? No? Hearing none, all those in favor of approving the minutes say aye. Aye. All opposed? Hearing none, motion carries. Are there any additions or deletions or any reordering of the agenda? No. Okay. So it might be reordering.

We might be reordered if the representative from Maidstone doesn't come.

Okay. Do you wanna go ahead and since we have Sure. Someone here, do swear in.

Sure. Just please raise your right hand. It's just to swear you in. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. You're sworn in. Thank you.

Thank you.

Any ex parte communication?

Nope. None. None?

No. Okay. Moving on to new business. Am I just still going in order, Kelly?

Yeah. Draft horse.

It's just with draft horse. Yeah. So we're gonna look here at ARBDash388. Petition number 2026Dash0012DashARB. 14924DraftHorseLaneAlternativeDesign.

K. So the owner is William Wilson, and the agent is Bartley Builder Group. The property is 2.39 acres, and it's located within Paddock Park 2 in the Equestrian Overlay zoning district. And it's requesting an approval for an alternative design for a 70 by 30 shade structure to cover a sports court. The property was purchased in 2023, and it consists of a single family residence, pool, and sports court.

And they went, the property underwent major renovations since the new owner purchased the property. They applied to relocate the the sports court and to put a, shade cover over it, but it was returned because it did not match the principal structure. This is the front of the property from inside the hedge, because there's a six foot hedge all along or a pretty actually, it's very high. I think it's about five feet. Gonna be taller than five feet most likely, around the entire property.

And then there's Eureka Palms lining the back. The sports court that's uncovered is on the lower right, side of the screen. So you can see that it's surrounded by the ricas on all sides, and it's pushed back pretty far from paddock. This is the proposed sports court. It's 30 by 70, and it angles from 14 feet on one side to about 17 feet on the highest point.

It would not be of interest to the neighborhood as it is located directly behind the house, and it has thick landscaping around the entire perimeter. It's the minimum alternative needed. And similar structures do exist throughout Paddock Park. It may not be over sports court, but they are covered arenas that are made of the same material that are ag exempt, don't have to look like the structure, and they don't have to get they don't have to meet zoning requirements. And it does meet all setback requirements.

So if the ARB decides to approve the application tonight, these are the conditions of approval that staff is requesting to be included, which is our normal conditions that we include for these shade structures. And this concludes my presentation. And the agent here, we have the agent here to answer any questions.

Okay. Thank you. I

If you can come to the do

you wanna add anything?

That I have the pictures in large Okay. For the property.

I guess she's the

I think are those the same pictures we have?

Yeah. They got they have a picture in in their packet.

These are you talking the pictures

Yeah.

Of the property?

Yeah. I'll Yeah. It's

I'm sorry. Just to clarify, the agent as in the agent representing Yeah.

You can

The owner's rep. Got it.

Okay. We can hear.

And if you could just state your name, please. Brooks. Thank you.

Really just adding that I have the pictures enlarged. That's it. The photos that are I think there's four of them on one sheet.

Okay.

Think of them bigger. Just so that it was clearer to see what we're we're proposing it going, that it's not impeding the the architecture of overall build up of the community. It's not.

Ms. Chanel, if I may, what what's the structure for? What kind of sports?

It's covering a tennis court.

Oh. Yeah.

So it almost in the photo looks like it has a bit of a slant, but that's probably just so that the water can come down. And so how high again is the structure?

It's 14 feet on the lowest point and then it angles up to 17. 17 feet.

And that's going to be

a tennis court underneath

the eye.

14 feet is enough to clear because I play tennis. Tennis? Well, I just And I hit the ball pretty hard. Sometimes it doesn't go in the right direction.

Yeah. It's like 14 feet.

These must be skilled tennis players. They must be playing

tennis. Don't know that you're only going to play tennis but I know that it does have the outline for a tennis court. It might be

Pickleball or something to that

the picture I saw basketball, I thought it were I thought it was saying over basketball Yeah. In that other image.

Think it was it used to be a basketball court and then they relocated it or

He does have a basketball basket on there as well. But that's the term sports. So it's Everything. I have to tell you, to me, this looks like a structure to house toys. Oh. Boats, jet skis, that kind of thing pull up under it. This is not a sports court. That's Well,

it's just a cover.

Right. You're saying like quads and stuff like that. I I get what you're saying. There's no access back there for that. Could you pull the microphone up? There's no access to that area for vehicles. He'd be driving over his storm systems and landscaping to get back there. But this just does not, to me, in any way look like a sports court.

Kelly, does it matter if the usage is Okay. Does it matter Oh, if sorry, John.

This is what we saw. I apologize,

guys. My agenda says 07:00.

Now I know where everyone is. I'm sorry. I don't know why it says that because it's pre done in the system.

It's it's been I was gonna say it had

been. It had been?

But I knew we changed it to 06:30.

So okay. Yeah. I'll let the clerk's office know because it's something that you generate. You press a button and it generates.

Yep. I apologize.

Kelly, is it a necessity that it is used for what we're disapproving the design. How it's used?

Yeah. How it's

used is

not something that we

And it is covered from screen from all the roads, and it meets setback requirements. So really

This is what they wanna put over Yeah. This.

For the tennis court. Right. It's for tennis. Well, but it's For whatever else is

a basketball. This is not a sports court.

Well, you've only got 14 feet or 17 feet, depending on the pitch. So I don't know what activities would be taking place.

Nor does it fall under our

jurisdiction of what it's for. Basically are we finding it

Aesthetically.

Aesthetically since it's kind of out of view is it really something that's a problem? Correct. I don't have a problem with it.

Is that the pic one of the pictures she provided? Yeah. It's blown up. Some better some better photos. Right now, we are just doing discussion.

Okay. I mean, looks like it shielded from view from the road.

Yes. Thank you so much for that.

And like I said, it's a typical throughout Paddock Park, a lot of you'll see a lot of buildings, a lot of covered arenas throughout the neighborhood that don't match the the principal structure and that are much larger. Usually, those are about 200 by 75. And those are all billed ag exempt. So that is why they don't come here. That is why they don't look like the principal structure.

And this structure is not eligible for that.

Does anybody else have an issue with the

They're just looking through.

So the images that were presented looks like it's currently being used as a basketball court, correct?

Yes. It's it will be used as a basketball court and then possibly a tennis court, pickleball court. Versatile.

I mean, look, it's not for me to play in, but I don't know how you'd play any of those sports with a 14 foot ceiling.

Hopscotch. Maybe they plan on doing something else with it.

Yeah. I mean, is there some other intent? Because it just logically, I don't see how this is a cover for a sports court based on the sports that were mentioned.

I mean, they they pulled a permit to relocate it there, so it was in a different location, and it and they pulled a a building permit to move it. And it was permitted as sports court. So I don't know if they would have

I mean, it really doesn't matter. I mean, whether it's a patio or anything else, it's the cover that's really in question. Yeah. So I guess we really shouldn't be bothered by what's the use below Yeah.

They have good aim. They don't go higher than 14 feet.

Like I said, I'm not playing in it.

Do you see this, Ray? Yeah.

Okay. So at this time, I will go ahead and motion to open to the public. If anyone in the public has any kind of comments or anything that they would like to share on this.

Second the motion.

Hearing no comments from the public, I will close the motion. Do you guys have any discussion?

I still don't any right, no discussion. Okay. She got the seven

I apologize.

Sorry about the same agenda again.

The agenda said seven. It was at 06:30, and I didn't realize that it said seven on there. My no. My apologies. Good. I wondered why there was nobody here. So sorry.

Just got here myself. So

You're good.

And my my packet was delivered to

A different house.

Neighbor Okay.

For the second.

We'll time. We'll figure that out as well.

Yes, please.

Sorry about that.

My apologies. My apologies.

No

worries. So we'll give you a second to look in that. We are going over, if Maria can show you where we're at.

Sure. This is what it looks like now. They may converted to a tennis court.

Mhmm.

This is the palettes shaded, protected. Mhmm. And then this is what they would put on top of it. Yes. I saw that. So I'm 14 foot height. At the

highest point? The high. 17.

No. 17 at the highest, 14 at the lowest. Oh. It's angled.

Mhmm. Then you. Then we discussed where it's located. You've got the eureka hedges And that are on two of the sides. And then, what is it? The ficus on the other side?

Yeah. I think it's Calusia.

Calusia? Yeah.

But it's pretty

much But it's covered.

Correct? You can't see

it from the street?

It's so far back. It's over a 100 feet back from the right of place.

Okay. I mean, one side is gonna have the five foot that are there now, the bushes, but it's so far back. So and right now, Sal, we're just at board discussion. So if you would like to discuss. If not,

we will

we'll just give you a second.

No HOA there or anything like that?

No. Neighbor issues? Not that I've heard of.

No complaints from neighbors? Thank you. You're welcome.

We'll go ahead. Would anyone like to make a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve Petition 2026Dash0012ARBDraftHorseLane based on staff's findings.

Their recommendations? Okay. Do we have a second? I'll second that. Thank you. Any objections to the motion? All those in favor, aye.

Aye.

All opposed?

No.

Okay. Thank you. Motion carries.

K. We'll send you a letter tomorrow, and so, your building permit should be approved right after. Okay?

Thank you.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Bet. Do you

want your pictures back?

Are you here for Maidstone?

Do you want your pictures?

Okay. You

can come over here.

We have

to swear.

Thank you.

Sorry. I'm so sorry.

We have to swear them into

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

If you could just,

we're just gonna swear you in before we do anything. Put your right hand up. Do you swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth?

Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. So we are on, still under new business, ARBDash389. Petition number 2026Dash0014DashARB 11928 Maidstone Drive Alternative Design.

K. So this property is located within Palm Beach Polo. It is a half an acre residential sealant use, and they're requesting a 15 by 16 solid flat roof detached pergola. The property was purchased by the owner in 2025, and it consists of a single family residence pool and another detached accessory structure. They applied for a permit for a pergola, but it was returned for corrections as it did not match the structure.

This is the pictures from inside the property of where the pergola will be located. And this is the survey of showing where it's going to be located with the rendering. It is white aluminum with a off white oat color canvas or not canvas, just an awning. The pergola is located directly behind the house, and there is a CVS wall, that is around the entire perimeter, so it won't be visible from any point of the neighborhood. It meets the setbacks.

And if it was attached to the house, it would be permitted, and they have received HOA approval for this structure. And these are the, same conditions that we applied to the last one and that we can have consistently applied to all the pergolas. So if ARB decides to approve it, then staff recommends adding these conditions. And that's all I have.

Okay? Thank you.

Did you want

to add anything? We have the samples if you want to see it.

Yes, please, actually.

Sure. That would

be great.

Kelly, a question for staff. If this was attached to the house, the exact materials that are being presented tonight would not require

Yes. All these pergolas that you see, most of them, if they were just attached to the house, we would consider it just a flat roof attachment, like insulated roof, flat roof, that we would approve by building permit.

And so because they're detached, typically they would have to be the same roof, same materials as the primary Yes. Structure?

And so the next item when we talk about the language for the zoning text amendment, this will alleviate that.

Okay. So

in this particular

case If you could just state your name.

Oh, great. I'm Wendy.

Hi, Hi, Wendy. Thank you.

They probably want you back behind that microphone.

Yeah. They're gonna

the he's gonna be

knocking Sorry.

I was like ringing it out.

Thank you.

It does have a more traditional design than what we've done in other properties details in the columns to kind of go with the house. The client also, the owner of the house, wanted something as traditional as possible, considering it is an aluminum pergola. It has the details. It has the rafters. It has the tips. The samples help.

So I see you've

got HOA approval contingent upon permits. I don't see anything from the POA. And their architectural review board from the Property Owners Association reviewed that? Do you have that document?

Yes, I think it should have been submitted between

Yes, it's the last page.

That's just the HOA.

The POA was also submitted in October.

So within Palm Beach Polar, there's two.

Okay. Well, I mean, I mean, that was just provided as backup. Building permit doesn't look at the HOA approval. I guess I didn't realize there were two of them that they have to provide.

This is a separate architectural review board for the POA, which is the sort of the master association. And so they would review BERNANKE. Anything architectural, and this would sort of fall under that.

Oh, okay. Gotcha. CHRISTIAN

I mean, if you have it, great. Otherwise, I mean, you know, I don't have a problem with it. I would just make that part of the condition. But we're not there yet.

Heavy? Is it like a weight?

No. Feels actually I want one.

Thank you

for bringing

this by

the way. Thank you.

Right. I don't think we have to worry about it right now.

No, either way, we wouldn't ask for the HOA approval.

I was going say, don't think that would that matters

But, to I mean, yeah, it's on them.

But considering this is not something that would normally be part of a simple approval and that's got to come to a board for review, I look at it saying, I want to make sure that everybody who's involved from a community standpoint, neighbors, that the POA felt like neighbors are adversely impacted by a design modification. I just want to make sure that everybody's happy.

Sure.

I trust you. Perfect.

Okay. Just go through the motion. Motion to open to the public.

Second.

Hearing no comments from the public. I'll close the motion. Any discussion, Board? Further discussion?

I came.

We appreciate it.

I'm good.

If there's no further discussion, I would make a motion to approve Edition 20 six-fourteen ARB with staff's conditions. And I will also add that the POA approval from their Architectural Review Board be part of this approval. I'll

second.

Thank you. Any

objections Does to the the POA approval have to coincide with the approval here or just the notification to their

It doesn't POA maybe? Have to. But since he made it in his motion

We'll just include it for the record when they get the letter, we'll include

it for our record.

Okay. Got it. Good. I'm good. All

those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries.

You just send me that letter tomorrow and then I'll send you a letter back with approval. Okay? You're all set.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you.

You so much.

Okay. I'm out of

here. Right? We're still running.

Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you. Bye

bye. Moving on to discussion ARB dash three nine one. Discussion of proposed zoning text amendment for accessory straight shade structures.

Yeah. So at the last meeting, as you know, we've had, multiple requests for pergolas. We've had 13 since 2023, that that ARB has seen and has approved all of them. So there was interest at last meeting to come up with some language, for council to approve to have for them to be approved administratively. So, essentially this language is mimicking pretty much what has gotten approved where that they meet the setbacks of the principal structure.

They They need to be completely screened from the right of way, which all of them that we've seen have, either being located right behind the structure. And then the maximum height is 12. So the one that was 14 would still have to come here. Because on average, they're about nine feet, nine to 10.

Mhmm.

So we wanted to give them a little bit of leeway because sometimes they may be taller on some occasions. But the larger one that came earlier would have to come back.

Mhmm.

And then the ones that have like, the last one that came, on Maidstone did have siding on the one side. We just request that they would have some sort of screening on that side. And that's pretty much what consistent to what we've all said for all the applications. Mhmm. They've either had a fence, they've had a wall, or they've had some sort of hedging that they installed.

Okay.

So that's pretty much what 64,288, it says. And then 64,485, the underlying text says, is just stating that attached and detached structures cannot exceed 30% flat roof structures cannot exceed 30% of the principal structure roofed area. So you can't have say your building is 1,000 square feet, you can't have 400 square feet of flat roof structures on your property, whether it be an attached insulated aluminum roof where people extend their screen enclosure. Plus you have a pergola that's 200 square feet. You can't have all that.

It can only be 30% of the size. So this is consistent with pretty much all of the pergolas that we've approved. So we're just looking for your feedback to see if you wanna change anything. And if not, the we it does have to go to PZAB and counsel. It is scheduled for PZAB in May. So we're just going to finalize and button up the language and then continue forward.

So of those 13, and I beat them you probably don't have them all in front of you, 120 square feet seems small. Like 10 by 12, I would have thought that a lot of those that we looked at were substantially larger than that.

Well, so a is what the code kinda says now, is that, anything a 120 square feet or less doesn't have to look like the house. So that's what the code says now. So whenever we tell people, if don't want to go to ARB, you have to keep it at a 120. And then anything above that, above a 120 square feet, has to match, Roman numeral I through four or one through four.

So if they're larger than that and then meet those other standards, that still would not come to ARB?

Correct. But the large one on draft horse, because it was taller, would have to come.

Right. Although the height requirement alone was Yeah. Okay.

Kelly, is any only because I had this in Mercy a couple of times, and people were going back and forth. Does it matter? Should it matter? Will it matter whether or not there are footings with these pergolas? Or should it matter?

Most of them do have footings.

Right. What about the ones that don't have a footing? Are they going to be considered the same as those that do?

The footings, I think, matter if they have to get building permit requirements, like get a building permit. But they still have to meet zoning requirements.

Okay. And you know, the argument was it's not a permanent structure, therefore it shouldn't be held to the same standards of a permanent structure.

Well, the ones we've looked at, Sal, were pretty permanent.

Yeah. Mean But I was just seeing So what are they bolting

a the couple of times. They were like, it's not a permanent structure. Therefore, we shouldn't have to get the same approval for

So what are they? Just bolted into the concrete, I guess?

Some yeah, bolted into the or a lot of them are these large tiki huts

Yeah.

That that that don't have, you know, any footings to them. Mhmm. Will most likely blow away in a major hurry game, but they

Well, the tiki huts are

Are exempt from

exempt from

Depending on where they're made. If they're authentic, traditional, made on a reservation or something, they do have some control.

Yes, special requirements for them. But this will help a lot of homeowners. I mean, unfortunately, we do have one coming next week or next month. But because the this isn't adopted yet, we have to make them come. So but this will help a lot of homeowners.

Do we have to make a motion for this or is it simply a discussion?

We can make a motion. If there's any changes, just so I can document it on my staff report to counsel that ARB looked at it and they unanimously approved the language.

Any more discussion?

No. Would anyone like to make a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve ARB-three 91 version one with staff's recommendations.

I'll second.

Any objections? None. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Great. Any additional comments, Kelly?

Our next meeting is May 25. Applications to serve on the board are due today. So please respond back to the clerk's office. This is our last meeting as a group. So thank you so much for participating.

We're losing you, Kelly?

Oh, no.

Oh, okay.

Any bugs?

Are any bugs not coming back?

Well, that's you know, you get appointed. So I don't know Oh. What what everybody asks to be on or if they have, you know, different options. So

Kelly, did you say May 25?

May 25 is Memorial Day.

Okay. Then it's, sorry. It's the twenty seventh. I'm sorry. May 27. Was just

like What time? 06:30. I will not be here.

I will be in Alaska. So somebody else will be here in my place.

Oh, Alaska. Oh my god.

It's the

best trip

ever. Can't hold a meeting without you. So let's restart it. Well, look. Just make sure you

have a quorum, Kelly, but I can tell you right now, I will not be here. I'm out of town on the twenty seventh.

Okay. I know it's kind of hard because it's memorial Yeah. We don't have

to still discuss. So we're on here.

No. Okay. I'll be in St.

Louis, making

sure we're open. But, I mean, I know that it might be a little bit hard because it is Memorial Day weekend. So if you can't make it, just let me know and then we can figure out an alternative day.

Okay.

But again, thank you all for your participation and taking your time out to serve and I really appreciate it.

Thank you very well. Thank you, Kelly. Great job. Thank without you.

Alright. Meeting adjourned.

Thank you all.

Sorry about

injuries.

A male was riding an ATV westbound on the street behind us. It appears there was some type of mechanical failure. He lost control and ended up striking the sidewalk.