Town Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, August 11, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Town Council
Meeting Type
Town Council
Location
Weddington, NC
Meeting Date
August 11, 2025

Transcript

129 sections (from 336 segments)

0:03 – 0:40Speaker 1

Okay. Okay. We'll call to order. We'll open this uh today being Monday, August 11th, 700 p.m., 2025. Um we have everyone here except uh Brandon, but we do have a quorum. So, we'll proceed forward. Let's stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

0:44 – 1:25Speaker 1

Okay. Do we have any uh changes to the agenda, additions, adoptions? Yes. As I mentioned before the meeting, Mr. Mayor, I need to move uh my discussion on the downtown overlay to September. Okay. So, we'll take that off. 11A will take off the agenda. So, I need to be September added into September for the uh downtown overlay discussion and vote. Okay. Um Jim, you want to on a 10 C, you want to move that bond to new business. have discussion on release of the bond.

1:22 – 2:01Speaker 1

Exactly. We want to uh take that out of the consent agenda for that bond release. You're exactly right. Move it to 12 A. Make it 12A. Yes, we can. We can do that. We can go U 12A. Karen, did you get that? We're gonna Okay. All right. We're good. Okay. Any any other changes? That I'll make a motion we adopt the amended agenda. Okay. All in favor?

1:59 – 2:44Speaker 1

All right. Unanimous. Have the uh agenda adopted and approved as uh as stated. Okay. Uh let's move forward with the uh conflict of interest statement. In accordance to state law is the duty of every council member to avoid conflicts of interest. Does any council member have any known conflict of interest with respect to any matter or matters on this agenda? If so, please identify the conflict and refrain from any participation in the matter involved. Any conflicts? Nope. Okay. No conflicts. All right. We'll move uh move forward to the mayor council member reports. And uh Jeff,

2:42 – 3:35Speaker 1

I've just got I've got two things basically. Uh the next Western Union Municipal Alliance meeting will be this month. It'll be Thursday, August 28th at 4:00 in Wesley Chapel at uh at their town hall building. So uh if you're available and you're interested, I I encourage you to attend. And uh as I mentioned, you know, in the changes, I'm I'm moving the um discussion on the overlay till September, but my invitation is still open. Uh and especially to the folks that are saying that they don't want this to happen to sit down and talk with me. Uh I had a really good meeting up here on the 22nd. Uh had several members of the planning board here. We had a really good discussion and uh you know so if you're so interested just reach out to me and I'll be glad to try to make a time.

3:34 – 4:04Speaker 1

Okay, that's all I got. Now are your uh Wuma meetings always on the website so you know folks can keep up with that. And I think u Karen did I know you we were confirming the dates. I don't know if these they've been posted on our town website yet. I don't think they have. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, because we just did them in um in June and we didn't meet in July. So, any big ones coming up that we should put on our

4:01 – 4:37Speaker 1

Not really now? Um as again, as I mentioned before the meeting, I reached out to David Willis, Representative Willis again to ask about these um bills in Raleigh that they're are kind of in a in that gray area. They're not dead, but they're not, you know, uh, on the floor yet about the state redoing and taking away a lot of local zoning authority from local municipalities. Have not been able to get up with it yet. So, I know they're kind of in a a a break right now, you know, after they pass that mini budget or whatever they did. So,

4:34 – 5:16Speaker 1

and I want to say too, you know, we as res we as here on this board need to keep a watch on this because uh it affects us all and could affect this town drastically. And uh and so we need to this this is uh this is probably one of the biggest things that could uh hit North Carolina as as a whole to all municipalities. And um so we need we need to pay attention and when this stuff uh starts, you know, I'm going to say see the light, you know, Jeff, if you could, you know, at least, you know, make us aware of it and uh and we can all jump on it and just uh do what we can with it.

5:14 – 7:13Speaker 1

Okay. Um I wanted to mention one thing that I I'm excited about. Um uh we don't have it in agenda tonight, but I put it in the uh in this in this section of the agenda. As some of you probably have heard, um, last year, probably around December, Mayor Horn, who is here with us tonight, um, reached out to him and said, "Hey, you know, don't know if you, you know, are aware that this, uh, this was out here, um, but I wanted, you know," he sent me an email and said, "Hey, just want to make you, you know, aware what's going on." And I'm like, "Wow, this is crazy." Um it was a zip code bill that uh uh representative um uh Lauren Bulbert from Colorado had uh uh had really had started had started you know in got it going. she introduced the bill and uh and it and and it died at the end of the Congress when Congress ran out. It it died and uh and so I thought, "Wow, this is a great chance for Weddington to be a part of this." And I think it could add a lot of um um great possibilities for the town and clear up a lot of stuff. Um uh Congressman U Mark Harris has been phenomenal. him and his uh team in Washington who I've been working with for the la last eight months or so has been they have just gone out of their way just been great in helping us you know get on this bill get this bill through the house and it was it was passed by twothirds vote in Washington uh on July 21st so it's it's it's passed the first hurdle and uh and now it goes on to the Senate and hopefully to the president's desk and what will happen is that point Wington will get their own if it passed. We're hoping we don't see anything that you know prohibit but you know how you know how politics goes in

7:09 – 9:00Speaker 1

Washington and u uh I think it will clear up a lot of uh a lot of misunderstandings in town. Uh there's confusion from people who buy because you know one side of town has Weddington Matthews the other side of town is Weddington uh Waxaw. Uh there's people who don't really know where what town they live in. I mean, it sounds crazy. Um, I think it will clear up a lot of confusion with property taxes, uh, misdirection of, um, state funding, um, uh, license, uh, driver's license having incorrect towns on them. Um I I share this uh the uh some of the folks when we instituted the trash uh started started that some folks at um uh what is it the uh Stratford on Providence called up and said you can't you guys can't do this. It's like why can't we you can't we live in Waxaw you know and they're like a stone stro right down the road here. So they were arguing with us with us that they live in Waxaw. But so a lot of people don't even know where they live. And so even even when going to the polls, it's going to clear up a a lot of lot of stuff. And so I want to play just a short video uh of Congressman Harris uh speaking on behalf of Weddington at the House in Washington, you know, in Congress when it passed that evening. um uh he he he's been again phenomenal with speaking up for Weddington uh and and behind us and pushing this bill. Uh he became as a co-sponsor for the bill to to to get it through. So uh so uh Greg, can you uh play just a little bit like a minute or so of this this clip from the House floor?

8:58 – 9:12Speaker 1

The gentleoman from California reserves. The gentle man from Kentucky is recognized. Madam Speaker, I yield two minutes to the gentle gentleman from North Carolina, Mr. Terrace. The gentleman from North Carolina is recognized.

9:10 – 10:31Speaker 1

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and thank you, Chairman. Earlier this year, Mayor Jim Bell of Weddington, North Carolina, reached out to me to let me know that the city had a problem. Having different zip codes across a single city has caused confusion about where residents file property taxes or even show up to vote. Concerned about how this problem might continue to compound, my office was able to work together with Representative Boowbert to ensure that Weddington is included in today's legislation requesting a single unique zip code. You see, representing my constituents has been an honor of a lifetime, and I've learned that there's no issue too great or too small that I can't champion for North Carolinians. Whether it's casting my vote for a once in a generation tax reform bill like the one big beautiful bill or today's zip code update, it's my mission to be a voice that responds to the needs of my constituents. I stand here today, Madam Speaker, to earn support for this package to ensure that communities across this country can have the clarity that they absolutely deserve. Madam Speaker, I yield back. The gentleman from Kentucky reserves, the gentleman from California is recognized.

10:27 – 12:06Speaker 1

Thank you. Uh so as you heard, you know, uh Representative Harris has been phenomenal and in representing Weddington. His staff there has just been bent over backwards just to help us. Uh we made the front page of the Enquire Journal this past Saturday before last. So there's been a lot of lot of news about it. Uh I think it will bring unity to the town. Uh I think it will bring uh you know it'll make us unique and uh and I think it will bring value to the town and that's what I always you know preach here that you know I want to bring value to the town and and whoever you know bills here lives here you know our our our value continues to go up and and so I think this will help that if I could get the get the residents to do me two things. Just reach out to Congressman Harris uh and just thank him for speaking up for the town. just shoot him an email in Washington, his staff there, and say, "Hey, thank you so much for, you know, speaking up for the town and and going to bat for us. Uh, Congressman Mark Harris has done a phenomenal job." And also reach out to uh uh Senators Tom Tillis and Ted Bud. Uh we're going to need uh our senators to jump in on this and to sponsor or at least co-sponsor these bills and to speak up for us. So, uh, I know, uh, represent Boart is, uh, is putting together the the Senate team to to do that. So, um, so if you guys could, you know, as a town reach out to, uh, Bud and Tillis and say, "Hey, we need for you to, uh, sponsor this bill to, uh, get this through the Senate." So, anyway, I'm excited about it. And, uh, and that's that's where it is.

12:04Speaker 1

So, um, sure. Yeah. Nothing tonight.

12:11 – 14:09Speaker 1

Okay. I just want to say that the last meet the mayor meeting um we had residents discuss or uh the do paving on what it what they had paved on one of the streets last year last physical year and what had gone the other ones. I've reached out to do last week and have not got a reply yet. So I don't have an update. I've driven a number of these roads and I believe what they have put down is what they would call preservation and not asphalt, which is nowhere near as nice or as good as asphalt. And I'm going to encourage them to do better, but that's about all we can do. This is out of our hands. They I would say they probably repay five or six of the town streets every year. And depending on how bad they are, it's a matter of what they put down on them. The ones that are quote unquote better shape, they use preservation. And the ones that are in really bad shape, they have to do more than that. But, uh, as I get an update, I will pass it along. And I do want to commend Mayor Bell for the for the zip code bill. I know, you know, you know, I live in Weddington. I have a Matthews address. It's confusing as it can be. And I and I really think that having a Weddington zip code and address would be very helpful. When you go to DMV, you know, I went down to the sheriff's office the other day um to renew my concealed carry permit and you know, you put Matthews down. Well, that's Meckllinburgg County in their mind, so you have to explain. So, this would be very, very helpful on many, many fronts if this does come. So, I do encourage everybody to u reach out to their senators to make sure they get fully on

14:07 – 14:31Speaker 1

board with this. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Tom. Um, anyone else? No comments? Okay. Thank you, guys. Um, we'll move on to um uh public comments. Uh, Debbie, I'm sorry.

14:26 – 16:23Speaker 1

Okay. Uh, Clayton Jones, come on up. Uh, your honor, mayor, councilman. Um, my name is Clayton Jones. I live on Panhandle Circle here in Weddington. Um, but tonight I would like to speak for a dear friend of mine, Ellen McGlaughlin, who would love to be here today, but uh, for personal reasons cannot. So this is from Ellen. I'm actually glad folks from Toll Brothers are here because some of her comments are addressed to Toll Brothers. There's three important topics for you this evening. Brmley and Toll Brothers. Last week in Brmley, we had a few incidents in relation to Toll Brothers that need that you need to be aware of. I'm concerned that we need to stay vigilant that they stay strict with their construction practices since they don't since they do not uh seem to do so on their own. The first is that the steel barrier blocking vehicle traffic between subdivisions was removed as well as a significant portion of silk fencing. The beam was tossed aside on a Brmley homeowner's lawn and was so heavy they could not move it themselves. The previous council in toll promised that it would not be removed until construction was complete. This is obviously not the case. Since bringing this to their attention, they have added a different barrier, but it continues to show that we need to diligently check and follow up on toll uh and that they do not uphold their promises. When did it become my job to check for fencing and barriers at construction sites? The silt fencing was down over the heavy rains pouring red clay onto our streets. And I spoke with her today

16:21 – 18:20Speaker 1

and she said that uh silt fencing still has not been repaired. Finally, I had three various homeowners touch base sharing that toll has been using heavy equipment so severe that it causes their homes to shake. Many are concerned about causing structural damages to their home. I've asked these homeowners to contact toll directly and to reach out uh here at council. These construction practices continue to be disconcerting. My second topic is commercial uh expansion. And although I don't want to replay my speech from last month, the sentiment is the same talking about the change of Bolifa. This was rejected for the right reasons in January. Do not modify the commercial overlay with a text amendment and change the landscape of our town. It will have unprecedented ramifications. Third, I think is unusual and I applaud her for personally myself and that is banning commercial solicitation. Instead of complaining of what needs to be done, Ellen would like to make a positive step and change something for the better for residents. Finally, after much thought, research, and feedback from community members, I'm sharing on the record that in September council meeting, Ellen will formally request a change to our ordinance to ban commercial solicitation. Some towns, uh, have this, uh, who have already done this before include Pineville, uh, Davidson, as well as Indian Trail. I believe we should ban door-to-door selling selling for commercial reasons like pest control, roofing, and uh but of course allowing for religious, political, and charitable purposes. We should not allow solicitation with a permit since Weddington is not in the in the project for permit fees, but instead to limit uh who is coming to our door.

18:18 – 18:38Speaker 1

Uh I'd like council to consider this topic. our town attorney has experience in this specific area and should be able to move this idea forward for the benefit of residents. Thank Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Um Chad,

18:46 – 20:09Speaker 1

good evening. Uh Chad Emry and Eagle Road. Um, I wanted to talk about the one item that I guess is moved out of the consent agenda to the regular agenda of the bond release. Um, I see in the packet that it was talking about paving. Um, but there's um, there was also some information in the packet about storm water and um, if you look at that neighborhood, I can't it's a major subdivision. It's 10 lots yet I can't find any record of it ever going before the planning board and the town council for approval. I've seen some emails where there's discussion of that storm water pond and in that there was some discussion of whether the developer was going to leave it as is or bring it up to our UDO code for a storm water retention pond. I don't know what the outcome of that was, but if you ever drive into that neighborhood, it looks like a mud pit lake with a fountain doing muddy water coming out of it. Um, I don't know what you can do at this point, um, as far as the bond and the approval of it, but, um, it does have a lot of questions as far as the development of it, that I urge you and staff to take a look at it before you sign off on the bond. Um, there's even a 30-foot buffer there from the the road, which at the time we had a 50- foot buffer. So, there's a lot of unusual things about that development. Thank you. Cool.

20:04 – 22:00Speaker 1

Thank you, Chad. George Per. Good evening. Um, you may wonder where I'm going with this, but just bear with me. I like the fact that we're going to get our own zip code. I hope that will pass. I think that's a great idea. I love Weddington. I love its uniqueness. I love its peacefulness. I love that it still has a few pastures. I love that we still have a pretty decent tree canopy. I love that we have creeks and ponds. I love that Weddington has large residential lots. Many people want that for their families. They want a lot where their kids can run around, actually run around and throw a ball and kick a soccer ball. They love a large lot to plant their flowers like I do. I have both natural woods abuing a creek and enough space to grow a lot of different types of flowers and shrubs including over 200 registered cultivars of dlies. And when I'm out there digging in the dirt, pulling weeds, planting new flowers, if I'm really lucky and there's not too much traffic on Providence Road, I can hear the bells of Weddings and Methodist wafting through the trees. And I pause and think how fortunate I am to live in the peaceful little haven of

21:58 – 23:56Speaker 1

Weddington. Amidst all the chaos and the destruction in the broader world, we have an idyllic little haven in Weddington. And I'd like to do everything we can to keep it that way. for those of us who are able to live here. It bothers me as you know and as I've said many times to see irresponsible destruction of our environment and you've already heard some of that today and I've spoken about it in the past. So, I urge you as the council and particularly in your oversight of the planning board because I think that's where a lot of the problems originate because I often think that our planning board does not share in as a whole the perspectives of those of us who are homeowners, the majority of us at least. So, I urge you to continue to be vigilant. I'm concerned about whether our planner has enough time or takes the time to respond to constituents concerns. I know my emails have not been answered and I'm not the only one. So, I think that there needs to be more oversight of both development projects and of staff who are overseeing development projects. Thank you very much. Thank you, Joyce Bentley. Thank you everybody. Brent Lee Lane. Um glad everybody can be here tonight.

23:53 – 25:53Speaker 1

So I don't really necessarily going to fall on either side of the topics is mainly being discussed around development. um the overlay etc. Um what I do want to say and I've also said this before um when there was previous mayor in place is that I think we have the tendency to try to fall on either one side or the other. Um I don't think that there needs to be that much disparity. I received a flyer in my mailbox this week and that's the primary reason I'm here even though I was supposed to be traveling today because I wanted to make this meeting saying we can't do the following. And it also alluded to potential conflict of interest between somebody on the board which I felt was um grossly inappropriate. There can be some level of development and it be smart development. There can be level of preservation and it be smart preservation. Just because someone builds a bank across the street, per se, hypothetically, does not necessarily mean that there's one more commercial building in Weddington and therefore there's going to be higher crime. There's also plenty of studies that also show that increased residential development actually has a higher impact on traffic than commercial does, especially during rush hours. Again, I'm not falling on either side of this topic, but what I'm encouraging everybody in this room, as well as our leadership sitting at this desk in front of us, is it's not a zero- sum game. It is possible to smartly develop and grow our community for the benefit of all the citizens, tax revenue, as well as access to things we all enjoy, as well as still protect the unique character that is Weddington. We don't need to become Meckllinburgg, but there still can be some level of growth. So, I ask everybody to please keep an open mind and it's not all or nothing. Thank you.

25:51 – 27:48Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you, Brett. Um, Miss Martin Martinez on Sky uh Skytop. [Music] Thank you for your time this evening. Um, so my name is Christine Martinez, a 760 Sky Top Road. I've lived in in the Weddington area for the last 18 years. And full disclosure, so everybody knows, I am a board member um on the advisory board for Polifa International. Um as many of you know, a family-owned and growing business that has shown nothing but integrity integrity while participating in the development of Weddington. Tonight, to be clear, my voice is as a Weddington resident who believes in responsible commercial development. make it better than what we found it. I think anyone anyone here can can't argue that that's a legacy that everyone wants to live by, lead by, and what parents embrace as hopes for their children and generations to come. However, the words consistently heard when commercial partnerships and opportunities, which is what they are, present themselves in the town of Weddington are, "No, oppose, reject, stop, no change, no development, stop the sprawl, no, no, no, no." Forget the person who was up here before me, but I have to echo the sentiment. This isn't a zero sum game on either side. This is for the benefit of the town. as a whole. I'd add to know no engagement, no return calls. People hide behind websites to give a

27:46 – 29:46Speaker 1

voice, yet when you call and try to speak to them, they don't answer you. So, I don't see the engagement. The words extend to actions that I characterize as finding loopholes, adding obstacles to good stop, honest investment and development opportunities from benefiting Weddington. Instead of making it better, what we found or better than we found, we keep keeping it the same. No investment, no improvement, and quickly non-existent. Let me ask you, since when has this been a winning strategy for any business? Growth, collaboration, engagement, community improvement. as a small business owner and town resident, these are the words that I would expect to see on our see as our town leads um versus the desire to be rudded in the past and just say no. Hey, look, it was a great advertising campaign in the 80s. It's a terrible one for financial and business success today. I get it. Saying something other than no means a little more work, a little more engagement. It means more negotiation, more time, more presence. But why would the town settle for anything less? As a business person, it makes zero sense to me to be silent versus collaborate collaborate collaborate with one of the most significant downtown core investors in the last 10 years. 10 years honestly. Who's invested more? You tell me. Someone who made a decision to invest in the in Weddington as a place for his international headquarters. Someone who did all the right things to ensure that his development blended with the architecture, reflected the values, and created well-maintained and landscape green space, which quite honestly the downtown core sorely needs. He's been made to be a villain because

29:44 – 30:29Speaker 1

he wants to further invest and create additional jobs, tax revenue, and opportunities for improve proving as far as I can see as a bright spot in the town that's otherwise full of unfortunately aging building buildings where tenants opt for a plethora of cardboard signs to promote their businesses. Um we're not talking about careless spraw. Thank you. I got it. Thank you so much Jared Pifka. I got four minutes here too, just to let you know. I'm going to start it right want to make sure I stay on track with my as well with my inattentive ADHD. So,

30:27 – 32:26Speaker 1

my name is Jared and I first want to express gratitude to the town staff, the planning board, and the town council for the work you do. I've learned a lot from meeting with you over the last month, attending a lot of meetings, studying the unified development ordinance, and looking at the comprehensive land use plan of 2024. Special thanks to Greg Gordos and Karen Dwey for your communication, knowledge, and professionalism. You guys emailed me back very quickly, and I appreciate all that you do. I understand that many of you on the town council, including the mayor, have additional jobs, families, and commitments. Time constraints make it more important that the town council rely on its advisory body, the planning board, for guidance on complex zoning and land use decisions. That's why what happened this past January really troubles me. After a 16-month review process, meeting requirements and investing over $100,000 in things like a traffic impact analysis, septic, water runoff, civil engineering, etc., etc. The planning board approved our application in November of 2024. Yet, in January of 2025, the town council voted it down, and the main reason was that the property was not part of the downtown overlay. That vote directly conflicted with the planning board's approval and the position that the downtown overlay has no bearing on the PoliticoA family's right to build. The property is zoned mixed use already has a commercial building and is designated business in the future land use map which is4% of the properties in in Weddington. All those buildings in the overlay are also designated business in that map. Now, I've had multiple experts review the unified development ordinance, the land use plan, the zoning ordinances, the meeting minutes, and the January 13th council meeting video. I had them look through it multiple times. That video from January 13th, everybody here, watch that video, please. These experts, please don't shoot the

32:23 – 34:22Speaker 1

messenger, y'all. These experts labeled the council's conduct in that meeting and the corresponding vote as arbitrary, capricious, and negligent. Arbitrary, a decision made without a rational basis or reason, often on a whim. Capricious, impulsive or unpredictable, acting without careful consideration. Negligent, failing to take proper care and fulfilling a duty resulting in harm that a reasonable person would have avoided. Good question is why did you even vote then? if you needed more guidance from your advisory board and if you needed to look at the documentation more. While the town council has discretion in conditional zoning, the discretion must be exercised within the bounds of reason, law, and fairness. Ignoring the planning board's findings undermines trust in the process and trust in the government. And this brings me to a deeper concern that that weighs on my heart, one that relates to the Polifa family's application, but also goes beyond it. I've heard the Polifa application described as a political hot potato by Councilman Smith because some loud residents oppose all commercial development and want the town to remain frozen in time. Council member Darcy Ladner said in that meeting in January that she received emails from residents that are opposed to the political application. But as elected officials, your duty is not to yield to the loudest voices or emotional emails or the most active poster on Facebook. Your duty is to uphold the rights of all citizens equally. Follow the town's ordinances and guiding documents, especially in conditional zoning. It says that in the UDO, and make decisions based on facts for the good of the town. We live in a hybrid democratic constitutional republic in the rights of an individual citizen. In this case, a taxpaying property owner named Basil Polifa, must never be trampled by a loud group of people. Otherwise, we have mob rule. This isn't about politics or popularity. It's about safeguarding property rights, honoring due process, and ensuring the consistent lawful application of zoning

34:20 – 34:55Speaker 1

and land use policies. 10 seconds left. The Polka family has a legal right to build in the Thank you so much. I appreciate Thank you. Thank you. In the upcoming months, you guys have Thank you. opportunity to be kind. Okay. Okay. Next, u we're going to have on item item eight toll roads. So, um come on up. Uh Morris, it's a Morse Farm subdivision. Let you guys do your start your presentation. Thank you for coming.

35:06 – 37:05Speaker 1

Good evening everyone. My name is Margaret Pucket. I'm the vice president of acquisition for Toll Brothers. Um I'm a new face to Toll Brothers. Joined the team about two months ago. Um my understanding is this process is relatively new for Weddington. So bear with me as we go through our presentation. The goal is to provide u answers to questions that the group of people residents of Weddington have tonight. We want to do our very best job going through this and then open it up to questions afterwards. I know there's probably a handful. Um, if you go to the next slide for me, Greg, I've got um a handful of consultants here. Toll Brothers is represented. We have Kimley Horn, our traffic consultant, and we also have um Kimley Horn's engineering team here as well. But for um tonight, we just got the Toll Brothers team, and we will gladly answer those questions as we get to them later on in the in the conversation. Go to that next slide. Tonight, we're talking about the Morris property on Weddington Road. Um the site is outlined in red. We're surrounded by residential subdivisions. The site is 94 acres. Can go to the next slide for me. This site is currently zoned RCD residential conditional. The proposed zoning is RCD conditional, but it's a traditional residential development to allow the development of the site with 43 residential home sites. This is the Weddington comprehensive plan. All right. The things that we've been at work at over the last four months or even longer, um, we've been getting feedback from residents. We had our community meeting about a month and a half ago. We've sat down with Mayor Bell. We've sat down with constituents. We've sat down with others on council and we've heard information and feedback regarding heritage trees updates in the UDO. We've taken time to enhance our architecture as we're very aware that

37:02 – 37:58Speaker 1

that's been high on the list for residents of Weddington feedback. Um we've taken time to increase buffers. We've done some additional bur and landscaping additions and tonight we can we can talk individually with residents but happy to show you where those those changes have been made on the plan and go to the next slide and I think Robert do you want to take over from here but I want to highlight the the intentional clearing that would be happening on the site right away to rightaway. So it's highlighted in red. It's really the only clearing that's going to be done on the property we are able to proceed is where that that road cutout is in red. Um the site does not have very many trees on the site today. There are some, but you can see that road is going to be rightway to rightway. So it's a highlighted area in red and it's easier to say it's not going to be mass graded. Um

37:56 – 39:56Speaker 1

perfect. We can go to the next slide, please. So this kind of picks up on that same concept we talked about before from rightway to rightaway grading. Um this gives you a general sense from a storm water perspective. So we wanted to do is we wanted to kind of start the conversation of what the impacts would be relative to adjacent sites. This kind of gives you a pre-development and a post-development understanding of what the storm water looks like. Um on this plan here you can see where we have um proposed two different locations for BMPs which are our basins. one that's going to kind of be to your east, one that's to your west. Um kind of pick up on the site at large to kind of give you a general sense of um kind of the totality of it, if you will. So, it's subdivided based upon Matthews Weddington Road. If you look to the west, there's a total of eight lots to the west portion of Matthews Road. If you look to the let's call it the right or to the to the east, there's a total of 35 lots. So, collectively a total of 43 lots. So um really we just wanted to kind of study just to understand exactly what it would look like before we take the next step far as engineering. So this kind of gives you that storm water exhibit just to kind of give you some understandings of again pre and post development. We go to the next slide. So this gives you a better kind of understanding of the site at large. Um one of the things that we've been doing for you know the last probably called eight or nine 11 months is we've actually been going back in and doing studies for septic. So this is a individual lot septic community and what I mean by that is that each lot will have its own individual septic system. Um it will be um septic where you kind of see the illustrations that you see here is it kind of the darker yellow if you will insinuates where we know we have viable soil to support septic. Um, we want to kind of give you a general sense of kind of where the house spot sits relative to where the septic is so that we know that we're not impacting those soils. So, we've we've done a good

39:54 – 41:53Speaker 1

bit of evaluation to understand the viability behind septic. Um, we understand the next steps will be that we'll go back in and get validation based upon permitting, but again, we've done the understanding that it will support five bedrooms. So, everything that you see here would support a minimum of five bedrooms based on this plan here. Go to the next slide if you don't mind. So, kind of like Margaret said, um we've done a a comprehensive study based upon um trees. And one of the things that's come from that study is that like Margaret alluded to, there's not a lot of trees on this site. Um but what did come from our study is that there's a total of five heritage trees. So, what you see that's kind of in this lower culde-sac here, um in this flag lot identifies where those trees are. So, one of the things that we did was we had the opportunity and the pleasure to meet with the mayor and the mayor pro Tim um about a week and a half ago and what came from that station was what can we do to salvage those trees and so we wanted to kind of respond back to that and and put efforts forward to do just that. We came with a plan originally that kind of you know constituted somewhere that were encroaching within the rideway challenges that we had base design but this design how we're able to salvage those trees. So we went back in, redesigned, lost the cuts, but wanted to make sure that we were able to salvage those trees. So those green dots indicate where those heritage trees are today. So um again, a lot of time and effort and study that's kind of gone into our evaluation to get where we are today. So that's inclusive of a traffic impact study. So back in, you can kind of get a general sense on timing here. So back in April 2003, we got the town approval. NC dot came short shortly before that in April 17 of 2025. Go to next slide and you kind of get a better visual. So this gives you a general sense of kind of the site at

41:49 – 42:53Speaker 1

large. Again, east and west divide by Weddington Matthews Road. If you look um what it shows here, and I know it's kind of faint, but what it shows is that per the TIA report, it's showing that we have a egress or a del lane and an excel lane on both sides of the road. And then additional that we are actually adding a center lane as well. The other thing that did come from that study and again everything that correlates back to the traffic improvement study is within the frontage of our development. Nothing outside our development property lines correlates back to improvements that we're responsible for. Um the only portion in which it's kind of outside if you call the frontal portion of development is going to be where we tie tie into B road. That was a directive that came back from the TIA. Perfect. See, so I'll turn it back over to to Margaret.

42:51 – 44:49Speaker 1

We had our community meeting, like I said, about six weeks ago was in June. Um, and a lot of the feedback that we got from residents, especially in that Thank you. Sorry about that. A lot of the feedback that we were getting from residents that were in attendance at that community meeting, there was probably 100 plus or minus people there. A lot of folks came up and said, "We would really like to see architecture that's consistent with Weddington." They did not feel like some of our previous communities. Baxley came up as one that really didn't fit with Weddington. They wanted to see something different. So, we took that into consideration. We've taken the time to really pull some of the features and architecture back into uh Weddington and really bring that back as we would like to make sure that we're adhering Mayor B. That was a feedback item that you had as well. So, we've really tried to enhance that architecture. Um, these homes will have a lot of choice as well. And we're going to work with our sales team. We're committed to making sure that there's not monotony so that the community will look different. Each home has the ability to look different almost like a custom home. Um, and we have the ability to control that. So, we need to do a better job and regain the trust of Weddington because we recognize that very recent communities did not adhere to that. If you go to the next slide for me. Um, and this just highlights some of those option options that we will provide. There's over 225 combinations that can be put together. Um, between our six floor plans, the elevations, the amount um, of stylistic choice that the buyers can have, but also these homes we've added per the request of council members larger square footage as well. So, there are homes in this community that are proposed over 6,000 square feet. You go to the next slide for us. Um, this is just again imagery of some optionalities with uh floating staircases, pools, really beautiful

44:47 – 45:27Speaker 1

closets and bathroom spaces in the homes. Um, if you go to the next slide, if you want to jump one one or two more, we have a handful of architecture pictures that I'd like to present. Um, here's a home with brick and we have some features here that are uh more prominent than what we were showing in our previous communities. I believe there's one or two more in this presentation. More more brick stone that are more consistent with with what is associated with Weddington. If you want to go back for me um and I'll let Robert talk about landscaping buffers.

45:25 – 47:23Speaker 1

Yeah. So, kind of going back to taking some feedback that we've gotten back from um the council members as well as planning where we want to make sure that we're actually inundating um the items in which we think bring value like we talked about tonight to Weddingington. We want to be able to instill kind of the same value that has been here for years on end. One of the things that we've done in this plan is that we actually have a 100 foot road frontage buffer on both sides of the road. It will support something like you see relative here. It will be large species of various different types. Um, our commitment is that we want to make sure that I think feedback that we've gotten back from from council is that something that kind of gives you some undulating BMS, if you will, gives you credible height. You know, one of the things that we like to approach is that we want to go ahead and put something of some instant girth, if you will. That kind of correlates back to not just putting something that's going to be a two-inch caliber, but we want to put something that's sustainable, right? something that gives you that instant gratification, if you will. So, that's our commitment. We want to make sure that that's what we're bringing to the effects of of our of our development. Next slide. And it kind of just lends to that. So, when we're um kind of programming what that looks like relative to our marketing window, that's important for us. It's we understand again we want to protect the value of Weddingington, but we also it's very important to make sure that we can capture the right clientele relative to what our buyer pool is. And we understand that marketing window is extremely extremely important. So we'll take the time and we'll work with the landscaping architect to come up with a plan. That plan will be u based on hardcape as well as softscape just to where again it's pronounced. And you know one of the things for us is that you know we always want to make sure that we're putting that you know that best foot forward and we're we're not doing the shortcuts if you will. And those that's really really good feedback that we've gotten back from um from from this team here. Um again touch points kind of like Margaret said I think you know the biggest thing here is that um you know we really have had some really good

47:22 – 49:14Speaker 1

understanding of kind of what the market looks like in recent time we've had some recent sells um and it's given us some general sense of kind of what that looks like that's correlating back to some of this product offering that you see here um you know again it correlates back to anywhere between call it 5,000 6,000 square feet I think we're looking at you know value that's still and that stays and still within Weddington we're seeing homes that what we've had in recent sales that have based prices relative to about 1.5 option out it's getting where it's anywhere between 1.8 to almost 2 million. So we're taking that same theme and incorporating it here. The other thing I heard tonight was hey we want to kind of keep big lots. Um the great thing about this community is that it averages at 1.03 acres for each lot. So big lots. Um the other thing too is that again we know we identified five championship champion trees or heritage trees but the intent is that again we're going right away to rideway right wideway clearing. So where there are trees we want to salvage those trees. Um, not a lot. There's not a lot of trees there, but it's our intent to how do we work around because essentially what that will look like will be it will be efforts of when we do our vertical build, they will then obviously be formulating where the footprint goes and only clearing for those items that need to clear for septic trying to restain some of the, you know, the caliber trees and stuff of that nature that kind of exists within. So, um I guess last thing is is one of the things that we kind of will offer here again having big lots is that we're trying to make sure that we can you have outdoor living. We can kind of keep kind of an oasis if you will with this in development. And so, you know, that's that's some of the luxuries that come with having lots that are greater than a neighbor. So, anything else you like to add?

49:12 – 49:26Speaker 1

I just appreciate the opportunity to speak on that. Okay. and we're going to open up to uh comment here and uh then maybe have you guys come back. Did anybody sign up for for comment?

49:27 – 51:26Speaker 1

Thank you. Uh Kurt, come on up. Mayor Bell. Um, you know, I've met uh uh Mayor Bell on a couple of occasions now and and Tom Smith as well to discuss uh the issue with Bonner Drive. Um, again, my name is Kurt Bores. I'm the president of the Arbor Oaks Homeowners Association. Uh, which is essentially Bonner Drive. Uh we are a very small uh neighborhood of 10 homes. Nine of those homes are on Bonner Drive which is a culdesac street and one of the main reasons that a lot of us purchased there originally because it was a very private culde-sac street. Now we're realist when we bought there almost everybody looked at that farmland and said you know that's going to sell one day. Um and and it did. And when we heard that Toll Brothers was going in there and putting in these houses, we were thrilled quite honestly. What a great builder for some great homes in that farmland. It comes down to one issue for us and that's connecting to us. Again, we are very private street. We spill into Amanda Drive that spills over to Kerry Lane and we see folks trying to avoid that traffic circle at the Union uh school during the school year uh rolling through the streets. So again I and I my hats off to you brothers and the unfortunate thing about it is you guys put in a ton of work. You have probably have a hundreds if not thousands of data points you're trying to meet. And here we come in here saying we don't want the street connected. Everything else about your neighborhood sounds great. We love

51:23 – 52:15Speaker 1

it. Find an alternative to connecting to Bonner Drive. And quite honestly, I've had a lot of challenges finding out which party is promotes this connector. And I'm finally down to a national fire code. Does that sound familiar as the engineer? Now I see that there's several exceptions that can be granted to a secondary ingress egress for emergency vehicles. Have you explored that to see if maybe there's a design enhancement to your main entrance um that uh can be modified so you don't have that second entrance because that's what our issue is right now. Again, wonderful neighborhood. Love to have y'all as neighbors. don't necessarily want to connect our nine home street to your 35 home development.

52:14Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you, Kirk. Thank you, Chad.

52:28 – 54:22Speaker 1

Good evening, uh, Chadine, 953 Eagle Road. I just wanted to say in regards to this project that I asked the council to hold firm on requesting that Toll Brothers follows all the required items in the UDO, including the new tree ordinance, culde-sac length of 500 ft, and even the clarified appendix 2B. Our current 2B is clear, but the update is extremely clear. Given the past issues, this should be the minimum to show they want to be good partners and good neighbors in Weddington and preserve our character and the reasons why people are wanting to move here from all over the country. This is conditional zoning and the town has the right to ask for that. Toll Brothers has had three strikes already in Weddington. From Brmley Wither Lake and the issues the HOA is still dealing with to Enclave at Baxley with dozens of sediment failed inspections during construction as well as issues residents have raised and asked town council to help with them with and most recently Luna with a blatant disregard for our old tree ordinance and even a buffer that seems non-compliant. In the UDO in place at the time Luna was approved. We allowed a 50-foot buffer if plantings are quote installed to to include year- round screening. If you drive by there, it looks like 75% of the trees are deciduous. So, it doesn't seem to meet that standard. There's not even a real burm in place to across the whole road frontage. If you're to approve another Toll Brothers neighborhood after all these issues, I would request that you make it clear tonight what you expect and what the residents expect. We need quality developments and there's a big demand to live in Weddington and we do not want to sacrifice that with developments that don't meet the standards of both new residents that'll be moving in and current residents. Thank you.

54:18 – 56:16Speaker 1

Thank you, Chad. Jeff, Mayor Bell, Jeff Gask, and I live on Bonner Drive. I live in the culdesac. There are nine children who play in that culde-sac. Nine or 10 every day. As as Kurt said, we all bought the place kind of knowing that something might happen. There'd be a development. And I used to kid my I've lived in Weddington for 20 years, nine years on that street. And people would say, "Well, what are they going to do with the farm?" And I said, "Well, they're either going to put a pork rendering plant or they're going to build a Walmart." And uh so when Toll Brothers came in, we were really excited. We all, my wife and I lived in New Jersey, and we almost bought a Toll Brothers home in Sparta, New Jersey. It was a beautiful home, a little bit out of our price range at the time. So we we didn't, but we're very impressed with construction and all. would just emphasize what the previous speaker said that you um stick to the what you say you're going to do and that you do build a higher burm. The burm beside that next to luma is way too low and it looks very inferior. Not I don't think in line with quality of work that brothers would do and and the first house personally kind of looks that way too as a box. So some character to that. The concern we have though is Bonner Drive. And as I think about it, if it's for emergency vehicles, there's a fire department that's going to come in that front entrance. And making that entrance wide enough should suffice um for for the emergency vehicles to get in. Secondly, for them to come in our way, they've got to go uh down Amanda and then turn on our street um which is a much narrower street and it it is not the fastest way to get the neighborhood. Um, so it seems to me that that that is not that the emergency vehicles aren't going to really use that. What's going to happen

56:13 – 56:57Speaker 1

is as Kurt said, um people who want to avoid that roundabout who are headed to Matthews rather than go out on pro on Matthews Road are going to take a going to go through our subdivision, take a right on Amanda, a left on uh the next street and there and that's it seems to me that a wide entrance just on Wedding Matthews Road should solve a problem with perhaps type of entrance onto ours like has been done in other subdivision gate. Um but but it'd be nice if there was nothing there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Uh Scott,

56:58 – 57:24Speaker 1

I'll make I'll make this Scott Burns on Bonner Drive. Been in Weddington for uh 21 years. Started in Graland Drive which coincidentally had a culde-sac neighborhood. I raised three kids with them running around and that was a wonderful thing. Now they're all gone. But I represent I come here representing all the how many how many kids do we have in that neighborhood?

57:21 – 57:58Speaker 1

17 kids. I'm here representing them and their ability to play in that cult. So the only thing I want to say is there was a mention about the DOT and about hey well it is what it is and nothing we can do. Um we have an example right around the corner on Amanda that way not to have a cut through. So, the only thing I'm asking the council and all of you is to communicate with us. See if there's any options. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Great. Thanks. Okay. Um, it's all we have for sign up for the comments. Council questions, comments, thoughts?

57:56 – 58:11Speaker 1

Were you the gentleman that shook his head when he asked the question about the fire department codes and things like that and the cut through? I think that was a consistent theme. So, if any of y'all can address the that particular issue, I think that would be helpful.

58:14 – 59:14Speaker 1

Good evening. My name is Tom. I'm with Kimley Horn and we performed the traffic study for this site. Um I I don't know exact all the details I guess of exactly why um the connection is recommended or required I think in general. So um when we're looking at um developments of a certain size, I think we're over 35 lots on that side of the that side of the road there. um you kind of want to have a second access point for emergencies. Say there's a crash at, you know, the the main access or whatever it is, people getting people in and out, I think is very important. Um and with the spacing that we have along Weddington Matthews Road, um we're not able to get a second access point. Um and so with that, I mean, we certainly could look into emergency access if that's something that the town is open to. Um but in terms of a second connection is something that um is is essentially necessary for fire code. Well, I think what you'd said at the very beginning of your statement, whether it's recommended or it's required, I think is where we're going to have to get the homework done.

59:14 – 59:32Speaker 1

Okay. And that's because then that will give both the planning board and then when it comes before council, you know, in the future, that's where they're going to have to know exactly what that answer is. Yep. Understand that. That as well.

59:29 – 1:00:35Speaker 1

Sure. Sure. I I've had the opportunity, I think, speak to that gentleman too as well. Um, on Boner Drive, I think we we made it very clear that for us it's it's not one in which we're promoting. So, we're definitely amanable to the idea of if it were to go away. I think largely like Thomas alluded to, a lot of times what you see is that they want to have some type of connectivity between communities. Um, I think the thing that's beneficial in this case is that potentially because what's happened here in recent time is Union County largely likes to play on the idea that let's have a second um connectivity, but it actually is below the threshold of what's needed. So, yes, definitely amanable to going back in. Um all of this just just for the record came from that study and came promoted from either from either label because there's really two reviewers as we mentioned before either from labella and or nc dot but for the record toll is definitely amunable to not having that as a secondary entrance.

1:00:35 – 1:00:51Speaker 1

Okay. Yeah. Quick question. Is there is there another if if it had to happen is there another way or another area to to to do that to to instead of doing it here could you do it over here over here you know you know what I'm saying?

1:00:49 – 1:01:35Speaker 1

Yeah. So, one of the things that when we were going through this study, our original plan actually had two entrances um along Weddington's Matthews Road, um the TIA promoted to where unfortunately because of some of the improvements that they're asking us to put in place, it then makes it very challenging from a taper standpoint to have a secondary entrance that fronts on that road. So, therefore, um trying to find again for the fulfillment of a secondary entrance um makes it challenging. Um again I think you know we're imanable to going back in and saying is this even really required from a code perspective and get their feedback. So we're we're more than happy to challenge that.

1:01:34 – 1:02:18Speaker 1

Okay. Tom, do you have a question? Um you mentioned this was going to be septic. Yes, sir. I believe in our meeting we had a week or so ago, y'all were discussing panel block. Yes, sir. That's correct. going to do on that. You're going to finish the studies and these would before when you do the application, you would have all the information on each of the lots. Is that correct? That that that is correct. Meaning next steps for us, I think we've evaluated what we believe will be the type of system. Next steps will be permits. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And I know when we met too, you know, I uh you know, our some of our conversation, you know, is we we are conditional zoning here.

1:02:18Speaker 1

Yep. And so, u you know, we do have the the the tree tree ordinance, the new tree ordinance that you mentioned earlier. Yes, sir.

1:02:25 – 1:03:11Speaker 1

And um and one of the requirements that we're going to require, too. I know you mentioned, you know, what three, four heritage trees, five to five. Yes, sir. um uh we're going to need as a town just to verify those heritage trees and any other trees in there too. So So uh not to say I don't believe you, but what I'm saying is part of our new ordinance is that we go in and verify. So there might be, you know, there's the five trees now. There might be some more that uh when our survey or verification process is done, there might be a few more. Sure. or whatever that is. So, just just know that we're we're going to verify that. So, we're going to require complete tree survey

1:03:09 – 1:03:24Speaker 1

because I know a lot of that is just as you said, it's it's open. It's it's pastures farmland. Correct. So, I totally get it. We just need to know at what point do those roads, you know, affect those trees.

1:03:22 – 1:04:12Speaker 1

Yeah. And and what I'd say too is I would offer this up. Um the illustration you saw today is more conceptual. Um it was intentionally to be conceptual just to kind of give you something more of a color picture if you will. Um but the reality behind that is that there's been a tree survey that's been done. Uh I think like I said before to Mr. Mayor Pro Tim and yourself as well is we're more than happy to provide that professional survey that shows the different caliber trees if if it's helpful. Um and it might even be something that's a comparable document. So more than happy to and I think we might have already provided that as part of our submitt for the appendix 2B but again there's information that's been sealed by a professional surveyor that goes back in says here's what the diameter of the collab of the caliber is more than happy to offer that up because there's there's real cost to that. So just as something just to consider.

1:04:10 – 1:04:38Speaker 1

Yeah. No and I I hear you and uh no I think we are going to require that complete tree survey verification. Yeah. Let me just do say one thing. I know from the plan I saw a few weeks ago to this. Yes, sir. You were going to lose probably half of the heritage trees in the original plan and this one shows you're working around all of them. I believe you're you're correct, sir. So, one of the things that you get a funny lot involved in it, but that's

1:04:36 – 1:05:21Speaker 1

we we do and I think it was twofold. So to our conversation that we had with you was um one we had black the conversation around block links is changing and so what we ended up doing is that we wanted for this meeting to show how then we're going to conform to what's forthcoming. So we understand those block links to be 500 linear feet. This plan that you saw earlier conforms to that. So we've gone back in also it conforms to the idea that we wanted to avoid all those trees. So that's what you what we saw earlier. Now I do have one question on the from the Bonner road connection to the end. What is that distance now? Meaning from our site yeah on your to that of

1:05:19 – 1:05:44Speaker 1

No, not on Bonner itself but where that road intersects on your main primary road going to the back of the property. Are we in a place that we can kind of go back to just to make I want to make sure. I was asking about the length of the cold sack. Okay. From there on. Oh. Oh yeah. Yeah. So everything conforms to 500 ft. what we've done and probably the better way to illustrate this is to show you what the change is per what you saw last time because originally you were 1200 feet.

1:05:43 – 1:06:27Speaker 1

Yep. So we're trying to conform to what was originally the black lanes what this I know it's kind of faint here but if you look you can kind of see we've got many circles that then allows us to have the block links that conform to the 500 ft. So we lost lots on the west side of the project. So the eight lots are on the west side. We lost we ended up doing a flag lot to avoid the trees. So those that conforms to the 500 there and then as well as great if you don't mind maybe illustrating the many circles. So we have a total of yep three mini circles. One there, one there, and then one kind of to the west. Yep. Right there as well, which then gets us within that 500 block lengths.

1:06:25 – 1:07:06Speaker 1

And Tom, to answer your question on the block length of the honor, it's the length of one lot. Correct. Oh. that I was really talking about the stretch not where Bonner is, but from Bonner down to the end. Yes, because I remember it was at at a very large length prior. Yeah. And so it looks like you at the far I guess that's the west end. I'm looking this way on the map to the small end. Yes, sir. You've lost down there. Yeah. So, when we met with you last time, we had a total of 45 lots. We're We lost two lots. We're down to 43. Okay, where we are as a result of that

1:07:03 – 1:07:26Speaker 1

um we were again what we there's been many iterations on this started at again it's a buy right plan start at 50 reduced down to 49 reduce down to 47 45 we're at 43. Yeah, what' you guys decide to do about that pond? I know we talked about that.

1:07:22 – 1:09:08Speaker 1

Good good question. So I again I think really and you tell us different I mean the nature of this meeting is to kind of get good feedback. I think the takeaway that we got from you was, hey, there might be consideration for it to either go away. Um, it was always been our intent that it would be more of an aesthetic feature. It's a farm pond today. Um, we would go back in and we'd put some type of airator just so that it's a place you can congregate and it would have, I guess, some aesthetic value because it's one of those first things you see when you come into the development. Um, but I know there's been feedback on what does it look like relative to the it's a farm pond relative to the dam that exists today. Um, I mean, we would do a couple different things. One, we want it to be in a in a state that has aesthetic value to it. It has integrity. Um, it's not mandated by dam safety or it's not regulated. So, but we would still want to ensure that it has the integrity not to actually have anything that would spill and affect downstream. Um, you know, we've done some studies relative to just understanding what that looks like relative to, you know, how it outfalls downstream. I think one of the things that we feel like fortunate with this development is that it does help with some of the future storm water because we'll capture it, we'll put it in BMPPS, it will be within a storm water system and have a slower release than what it probably has today. So, um, but again, I think we're open to this conversation. It's not one thing that we're saying, hey, keeping the pond is a mega break. It could potentially would then come a, you know, common area that potentially would have, you know, whatever. You know, we could do some type of smaller amenity there that would be another place to congregate. So, it's not something that we're not

1:09:06 – 1:09:51Speaker 1

sold on the idea that it has to stay. How many acres is this spot? Collectively 94 acres. No, no, I'm sorry. The pond. Oh, the pond. The pond is probably about three acres, I think, is what it is. About three acres. Yep. Okay. If my one concern I raised there is just to make sure the integrity of the dam so it doesn't become a liability for the owners association. I understand it is not going to be a water control feature. Right. The water is going to beed to the other ones and it's just going to get the sheet runoff from the immediate area. So it's my only real concern about the pond is that the integrity of the dam so it doesn't become a liability for the homeowners down the road. Sure. Sure. That's my only concern.

1:09:48 – 1:10:27Speaker 1

Yep. And again, I think when we met last time we we spoke, but one of the things that obviously going through development, you have a lot of geotechnical engineers, professionals that are looking for putting the integrity of the infrastructure in place. This would be one of those areas that's inclusive of that evaluation as well. Thank you. Yes, that's it for me. Um, quick question, couple questions. Okay. U these houses are slab or crawl space? Crawl spaces. All crawl space. Okay. Yes, sir. I know Luna is I think it's slab, right? Yes, sir. That's correct. Um uh and two, you know, you know, we've updated our appendix 2B. Yes, sir.

1:10:25 – 1:11:09Speaker 1

And so, we're going to require you to, you know, to abide by that as opposed to the old appendix 2B, but to the new one. Yep. Yep. Yeah. And I think which is going to require in in the improvement permit for the uh septic. Yes, sir. So, we obviously want to kind of go in sequential steps. We know this is the first step. We know um the requirement to go next steps, if you will, is based on some of the new provisions. We're completely aware of that and and obviously willing to do the applicable steps that need to happen. Okay. Um and again, what's what's the average uh square footage of the homes going to be in there? You may have said earlier, just cover that again.

1:11:07 – 1:11:41Speaker 1

Yeah. So, we're we've introduced a few larger plans. Um, we have some even some plans that are a little bit larger than 6,000 square feet. I think average wise we're probably in the high 4,000s. It's kind of where we are. Mid to four 4,000 ft. Okay. And then again, potentially introducing a plan that would be north of 6,000. Um, we have several that are 6,000 square feet. Okay. Can you take the mic so people can hear you? Thank you, Margaret.

1:11:40 – 1:12:05Speaker 1

I would say based on what we're seeing at Luna and based on the changes that we're making here, as simple as going from slab to crawl, uh, right away to right away, better bum, um, burm buff buffers, etc. I think that our our average sales price in this community would be higher or skew higher than where we are today just by the enhancement that council mayor suggested.

1:12:02 – 1:12:42Speaker 1

Yeah, I know Robert mentioned uh 1.8 to two, something like that. and and the good thing is that we're able to see reality today. Those are what has come from recent sales as all x amount of weeks ago and all those have been again a base price relative 1.5 1.6. We're seeing options somewhere relative to call 250s to 300s. So it's correlating relative as I mentioned before 18 close to 2 million. Okay. Um, now you mentioned or you showed us the uh the monuments. Will you have a monument on both sides since you're split or how how does that work? You know?

1:12:41 – 1:13:21Speaker 1

Yeah. So, normally when we split the road, yes, is the answer. We'd like to have it on both sides. Um, it would probably be a little bit more in grand scale on the larger side, if you will, just to kind of go with scale of area and but it would be something that then complements it on where the eight lots are. Okay. All right. Um, any more comments or ideas, suggestions? I'll just say one thing that, you know, you scale back your number of lots. You're not doing what I call a builder's acre at 40,000 square feet. You're going 44 and above.

1:13:19 – 1:13:42Speaker 1

Yes, correct. Yes, sir. which does allow you to put bigger houses on, which hopefully then y'all will figure out which lots can accommodate the bigger houses with probably a little better septic capacity or whatnot to get what you need because you have a little more flexibility to work with the land with the larger lots.

1:13:40 – 1:14:23Speaker 1

I I would agree. I think it gives us some options for larger homes. But what I'll tell you is this. We are getting that grief from a lot of these um recent interested buyers. I think we we've had this conversation before where you know we had a a list of individuals that are very interested that Luna's 18 lots list was relative about 1,700 folks. So um you know it's been a lot been very very successful from that standpoint. Um the read that we're getting back from them is that's what they like. They like the big box right the big hole. when I say box new get home. So, it's um again that's what our intent is to deliver. Yep. Something that's going to be theming with what we know what exists,

1:14:21 – 1:14:56Speaker 1

right? No, and that's what we, you know, we like here and this is this is Weddington is what we encourage is one acre plus lot size. Yes, sir. And so, I appreciate you doing that. Um Um So, so you you mentioned Luna. Yes, sir. What kind of response because I'm sort of judging response off of that to this have you gotten for Luna? Yeah. So, um I guess I can maybe respond back to um what was said earlier if that's okay.

1:14:54 – 1:15:22Speaker 1

Yes. So, kind of let me bring up an update rather from a development perspective. One of the things with Luna is that when we um were going through the process for approvals, we actually took it a step further and put um enhancement erosion control items in place. There is no such thing that exists within the ordinance for Wington, but we came back in with a text amendment that said we want to enhance the erosion control items. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, it's just people.

1:15:20 – 1:17:20Speaker 1

Yeah, sorry about that. We wanted to enhance the erosion control items. So, we worked with Lebella. What we ended up doing is that the city of Charlotte actually has this in their ordinance. It's above and beyond what's required. And so what we ended up doing is that we went back in and and and built all these enhanced items for that reason. We knew that we were very close to an neighborhood and we wanted to keep that protection there, if you will. So there is quite quite a bit of a role place. One of the things that we also do is that we have a third-party inspection firm, no affiliation with with toll that comes out there every single week, every single rain event to validate that we're in compliance. That gets reported and so we're reported on a standpoint that we're in compliance or make sure that we're in compliance. On top of that, you guys have done a good job of getting labella to do inspections as well. Um, one of the things that we do is we work very very closely with TUMI and we want to make sure that you that we're following protocol and if there's any issues that we have that we're right in front of that. Um, the moment in which we we got that information, I spilled the beans and and called Tumi. I said, "Hey, Tumi, it's my understanding there's there's concern and and let's understand what that is. The reason why the barricade was removed is because we're at the point that we're trying to tie into the road. So unfortunately we couldn't keep it because we're moving forward with paving. The unfortunate part is we've been living this rain events for the last week and a half and unfortunately it's just been very challenging for the last week and a half. Um so we immediately responded that same day. I told my my gentleman to go ahead let's get the area to a point where it can sane sustain in the interim. The intent is and kind of like we talked about before is we'll pave up two. The difference in that case is there was a difference in elevation. So we actually had to go ahead and remove it so we could tie in correctly and so the stone can be where it needs

1:17:16 – 1:18:18Speaker 1

to be at said elevation. Um what will be what will happen is the moment that we can go ahead and hopefully get better weather will pave. um we will put a very substantial type of barricade there while we go through um the vertical side of the build and at that point in time like we talked about before we will open it up based on what we know is applicable ordinances. So um I think one of the things that I can't overstate is that we want to be a good neighbor and um we don't have anything to hide here. U I'll tell you we spend tens and hundreds of thousands on erosion control. Um, not every builder developer has a third party that is set up to do those inspections. We do. And on top of that, you know, we obviously have individuals that are going out and making those repairs instantaneously.

1:18:16 – 1:18:34Speaker 1

And I don't know if I can ask this or not, but uh, any erosion has gone into Bramley from that. Can you guys just clean that up and, you know, stop it, you know, stop it from happening, then clean up the mess that's happened and and take care of that for those guys?

1:18:30 – 1:19:23Speaker 1

Yeah. And I'll say this, um, again, want to be a very, very good neighbor. Um, last thing we want to do is have any type of offsite. Um, I think that we've done a pretty good job of keeping it off site. We're very, very close in conversation with Tumi. Um, she is on site on those same kind of durations as I mentioned before. So if it's probably once a week and or she is going to inspect on there's a rain event. So we get multiple reports. We get it from our internal third party that says here's a to-do list of what needs to put you in comp. And then on top of that she gets that same list. So there's nothing that we can shadow on the extent of here's what reality is and what needs to be addressed. But to answer your question, yes sir. So you can go in and clean up clean up what's happened and clean the streets, clean up the mud or whatever is washed over.

1:19:22 – 1:20:04Speaker 1

Yeah, if there's anything from that perspective, um we did have some other control mechanisms that were put in place to to negate some of that, but yes is the answer. Okay, we would definitely be very vigilant of that. Okay. All right. Cool. All right, Darcy, any comments or No, you did a great job covering it. Nothing anymore, guys. I'm good. All right. I think we're I think we're good at this point. And so uh appreciate you guys coming and uh and your input and uh anything you can do to, you know, create less u havoc, bring value, uh all the stuff that we've talked about, uh we'd appreciate it. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you guys.

1:20:02 – 1:20:39Speaker 1

And uh you can stay or you can, you know, drudge through our rest of our council meeting. But uh all right, the next thing on the agenda is u uh public safety report. Uh I think yes you uh deputy we need to have that mic looked at obviously

1:20:36 – 1:22:35Speaker 1

got you. Okay. Mayor, council, once again, thank you so much for having us. Public, once again, always a pleasure to be in such good company. I apologize the seats are a little uncomfortable every once in a while, so you have to bear with me here. So, we've done a little bit of changing. So, the month of June compared to the month of July. In the month of June, we had 71 911 hangups. Uh, in July, we had 61. So, we saw a little bit of a drop. That drop could be people going on vacation. It could be people just watching their phones or the kids not playing with them. Uh, as far as accidents, that is to include serious injury all the way up to just a small fender bender. In June, it went to 27. This month, we went down to 22. So, we really actually went out there a little bit harder. I did some bigger traffic enforcement, slowed a little bit down. That doesn't mean we didn't solve a lot of it, but we we were able to get those numbers down a little bit. Alarms were at 38. They went up to 44. Um, that's not just going to be the weather. That's also going to be people, uh, dog sitters coming through, not knowing the right numbers when you're on vacation. Uh, that could be contributing to a lot of different things. U, as you can see, a little bit of wildlife is coming out due to all this weather. Uh, we've seen a lot of deer tripping over and hitting sensors and things of that nature. Uh if you are going to leave and go maybe on a vacation, uh please do us a favor and either fill out the notification form online and or let your dog sit another passcode. Uh it's normally not a fun situation when they get to see us out of a mirror. Um so another thing that we looked at, so burglary to a home, business, andor vehicle maintained at four. So in June there was four and July there was four. That includes Papa's back shed and that includes all the way up to a home or indoor commercial building. Careless and reckless driving. We've gotten a lot of phone calls on. Uh that seems to be our pretty big thing whether

1:22:31 – 1:24:31Speaker 1

it's a subdivision andor um Indianapolis Highway 16. So, one thing that we've looked at is whenever you're calling us and letting us know, our dispatch center will send us an information or report telling us that this is what's being reported. In June, we got 19 calls for careless and reckless. July, we received 13. Now, typically, we're looking at people going on vacation. They're in a hurry to get to the beach or the mountains or they have to hurry up and go catch that plane. We're able to reduce that number a little bit due to a little bit of police activity uh along with people just speaking to each other. One thing, and thank you so much for council Perryman bringing this to our attention, uh was fraud. So, fraud investigations in June, we only had one. July, we had four because the word got out. Now, you might think a 3% or three number is a big difference. To us, it is. It's huge. We're getting out there and encouraging anywhere from uh someone who's 90 years old getting their social security check taken all the way out to someone maybe getting some fraud at a gas pump. We want to be able to hurry up and get those reports out to your banking systems. Preventive patrols, that's us in your neighborhoods. That's us out there talking to the kids. That's just us you seeing it. We're just going out there and patrolling. That's us selfinitiating a call with a service went from 705 in the month of June to 835. U that is us you talking to us and saying, "Hey, I want you in my neighborhood at 12 midnight. Hey, I need you out here at 1:00 in the morning." The reason that we're really annotating that is because at night when you're requesting us or early in the morning whenever you're seeing the traffic, we're making sure that we selfinitiate that within our system to let you know, you know what, I haven't seen a deputy in there in 6 months. We can go back in there and say, well, it's because we're here more at this time. So, we're documenting that a little bit more from 705 to 835. Uh radar to protrude,

1:24:27 – 1:26:27Speaker 1

including just patrol. So when you see the Doppler units within our cars, so our radar units, that also includes our laser system. So that's us hiding in the bushes getting cars, that's all the way to us in a marked car or an unmarked car sitting. We had 17 in June. That's us selfinitiating that we are on a radar patrol only. Uh that was in June. In July, we went up to 39. So that's us getting out there a little bit harder and actually selfinitiating it. That's not Providence Road. That's anywhere from Antioch to Bula. That's on the back side of Forest Lawn. We've gotten some complaints. So, we're actually going out there and actually making sure that we're putting it on paper for you. That way you can see what time, things of that nature. Suspicious vehicle calls, we had 17. They increased up to 18. That's because the Google Fiber andor someone coming up to your house, calling us, letting us know. So, we increased by one up to a suspicious car and person. So, traffic stops. Uh, in June, we had 112. Went ahead and stepped it up a little bit more to 184. Uh, we received some complaints. So, we're able to get out there and serve the citizens and the community as much as possible. So, we increased from 112 to 184. So, we we are getting your complaints and we're trying to set up in your areas where you need us most proficiently. So, the radar patrols all the way up to the trespassing. Uh the trespassing went from nine to six and that is a person, not a vehicle. So we originally went out to nine cars or nine vehicles in June. Now we stepped it down to six because they're starting to move out of the area whether it's going to Waxaw, Wesley Chapel, things of that nature. Uh that's neighborhood apps talking to us and things of that nature getting us out there. So we went from 9 to six. Total calls in June was 1,294. In July, it was 1,538. So, call volume did go up a little bit,

1:26:25 – 1:27:46Speaker 1

but that is due to uh our self-initiated activities. That's everything from the SRO's coming out here running radar with us uh to everything from us just sitting in your neighborhoods talking to the kids on spring break or summer break and uh us hanging out at the pools just saying, "Hey, passing out stickers." So, that's why our call volume didn't increase that much. Uh one thing I just want to reiterate, please bear with us. Um, traffic as far as coming up. We have school coming up. I see a lot of heads going, "Yeah, I know." But with that being said, kids have to get to bus stops. When you know it's going to be raining and things of that nature, get on your next door app and let everybody know, hey, we have kids coming out at this time. Kids, buses are going to be late. We are going to get a little bit more wreck call volume. We know these things. Please bear with us. Um, we see the one finger salutes a lot because of the traffic. Um, we go to road rage incidences all the time just because people don't expect it. August is coming up uh here in a couple weeks. See a lot of traffic activity due to just kids going to school. So, please bear with us. We know what's going on. All of our SRO's are completely aware. Um, all your contract cars are completely aware. We're going to do what we can to keep that flow going. Try to if there is a vehicle collision or anything of that nature and we're working it. We're going to try to get them off the road as fast as possible to keep that traffic flowing.

1:27:44 – 1:27:57Speaker 1

Now, I know the the flock cameras are installed and up and going. Have you had a chance to have they been effective uh to be able to use those so far?

1:27:54 – 1:29:13Speaker 1

Uh yes, sir. So, speaking of that, um just across from Weddington High School at 4700, which is Graceway Baptist Church, church was letting out. Uh during their services, while they're letting out, we get a flock notification or what we like to call a hit. Um during the flock hit um we had a deputy out there directing traffic using radio communication. We said, "Hey, car should be coming here." We got a hit notification if you happen to see it. That deputy saw the vehicle. Um played it off nonchalantly. Uh stopped it as if he's letting the church traffic out. Whenever he did, the Weddington deputy was already setting up to try to relay and get ahead of it. Whenever he did, we initiated a um traffic stop. During the traffic stop, not only was the vehicle reported stolen, the driver had significant warrants. During the warrants, we were speaking to him. Um, it continued. We we use a oneplus 1 rule. If there's one crime, there could be another could be another one plus one. So, during that oneplus 1 rule, u we're just walking up to the vehicle to secure it. Smelled the odor of uh we continue our investigation. So, we located narcotics, we had a warrant out, and we got the vehicle seized. Um during the process um we ended up talking to the individual a little bit more and I believe that we're going to get some additional items out of that bas based off of the flock camera system hit andor notification.

1:29:11Speaker 1

Good. So it's they're they're working already so far diligently.

1:29:14 – 1:30:05Speaker 1

Awesome. Quick quick question for you. The other a couple weeks ago I was going down Antioch Church Road, big trash truck. It was packed to you couldn't get another bag of anything on it. Flying down the road like it was a fire truck going to a fire. and uh he was hitting the tops of the trees hanging over and you're just scraping off trash into the road and I did a call in actually went down into 84 went through Wesley Chapel all the way to Airport Road gold mine I guess he's going to the dump in those type situations when we see stuff like that how do we respond as citizens we see something like trash truck and he's dumping trash and bottles pop you know bouncing off the road and stuff like that what what kind of response should we have as residents to should we call it in should we say, "Oh, whatever." You What's your response?

1:30:03 – 1:30:55Speaker 1

My response is, "When in doubt, scratch it out." When I say scratch it out, it's going to re be a reporting process for me. So, when in doubt, as a citizen, call us. When in doubt, you you're paying for a fantastic service that we love giving you. I'm not saying that sympathetically or hypothetically. I mean it fullheartedly. If you see something that you think is a concern to the safety of the community, let us know. Um, so multiple different traffic violations there. Also, if I can get a hold of North Carolina Department of Transportation for multiple different reasons, whether it's flooding on a highway and or maybe some trees a little bit too high. I'm not here to say one way or the other. Department of Transportation has been fantastic with me lately. Um, Silver Lake over here and Marvin, we had a car flip over. I responded before I could hit send to initiate my report. They were on scene blocking the road.

1:30:53 – 1:31:42Speaker 1

So, if I have trees that are overhanging a little bit too much, let me get a call out. I'll put in a service ticket to the North Carolina Department of Transportation. Um, they tend to help us out a lot. I have the utmost respect for those guys right now. They're dealing with a lot of flooding within the county. If you see trees that the roots are starting to give out, they're going to start leaning over. Could be your car and you're like, "Well, maybe it's okay. That could be your neighbor. Let me get a hold of North Carolina Department of Transportation. Put in a service ticket. At least get the ball rolling." So, also get to get to a safe location. Don't try to pick up the trash. Let me help you with that. But know the company. We've had those complaints before in the past. Know the company. Let us contact the company. And instead of issuing a million citations, we need to get to the root of the problem.

1:31:40 – 1:32:16Speaker 1

Is the problem the insufficient truck? Is the problem the driver? So without just issuing a ton of citation for fail to maintain a load, but we need to talk to the driver. He might have something going on that we don't know about. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate I appreciate what you guys do and uh and I I said last time but Sheriff Kathy told me here recently uh that uh the conversation was that Weddington and Marvin are considered the two safest towns in North Carolina and that I contribute that to you guys and what you do and uh and I I really appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. Appreciate it.

1:32:14 – 1:32:44Speaker 1

Thank you. Okay, onward to the consent agenda. uh approval of the minutes from last month and to um authorize staff to execute contracts on uh for on call engineering services. Can I get a motion to approve consent consent agenda? Approve the the amended consent agenda with seagull left off. Correct. Okay. Um can I get all in favor? I

1:32:40 – 1:33:08Speaker 1

Okay, it's unanimous. All right. Um, old business. We're going to go down to uh discussion of consideration of the text amendment 2025-06, the appendix 2B, submittal requirements and approval for land use consistency statement. Um, Greg, I'm going to turn it over to you to comment on that if you don't mind.

1:33:06 – 1:35:05Speaker 1

Uh, thank you, mayor. Uh members of council, I don't want to over complicate this text amendment as we discussed it uh at our previous meeting last month. Um this is a significant text amendment. This completely rewrites appendix 2B of the unified development ordinance which are the requirements for submitt when submitting major development applications including new subdivisions. So uh there has been significant talk of what constitutes a complete application, what constitutes the materials that we are looking for and specifically what type of agency or other you know approvals are required by other parties before we feel that a com uh application is considered uh complete and ready to vote on. Um this rewrite of appendix 2B creates 50ome items which are now uh labeled as B1 through B etc. Um the previous appendix 2B was uh was discussed at the the last meeting and has had two discussions and approvals by the planning board. Um the only item that was hanging up everybody which I think was very justified uh was the topic of item B 27 uh which discussed septic systems. So in our previous meeting uh we wanted to have a complete consensus on what we are understanding what is required in regards to septic systems knowing that you know we are not the approval body for septic that is either through Union County or more often than not now the state but we want to see some type of documentation from that agency that they have submitted an application and have gone through the

1:35:03 – 1:36:46Speaker 1

appropriate approvals prior to the planning board even recommending something. So to be clear, appendix 2B as it is adopted today uh would require the planning board to say that this item meets all these check boxes before it comes to you all for your decision. So this just should aid your decision-m processes so that we have complete consensus amongst the planning board as well as the council that you have all the information that you need. Uh the the specific change that was made uh from what you discussed last month to today was that the language would state uh the identification and delineation of proposed septic systems including location of drain fields, repair areas, and associated infrastructure with improvement permits or public sewer lines if applicable. And it would also define delineation as the precise marking or documentation of boundaries, work zones, and responsibilities within a construction site. It ensures clarity between project stakeholders. So essentially, we're saying we want to know where the septic fields are. We want them clearly marked on the plat or the document that's submitted to y'all. And we also want an approval document from an outside agency. Again, this will typically be through the state nowadays that says they've done their due diligence. They've submitted a permit. They're going through the process. This isn't a pie in the sky. I think it's going to go over here. It's they have spent a lot of money to determine where it's going to go so you guys can have confidence in your decision.

1:36:40 – 1:37:14Speaker 1

Okay. Okay. Um any comments? Uh Darcy? I think it's hits on everything that we discussed and asked for and is comprehensive and great. Okay. Uh Jeff, the only thing I want to just say is thank you again to the planning board for going back and revisiting this. They had already put a lot of time into it, but as you stated, Greg, and as we have asked for clarity is what we all need on both of those bodies, and I think we've got that now.

1:37:12 – 1:37:43Speaker 1

Yes, Tom. I just want to thank really the subcommittee who worked on this and defined what we needed to do and got it worked so it promptly got to the planning board and did not get delayed so we can be here tonight. I really appreciate that and Greg's effort on this because this this just, you know, clarifies numerous things and uh will should make our job a lot easier in the future. Thank you, Greg.

1:37:41 – 1:38:00Speaker 1

Thank you, sir. And and for the benefit of our audience, uh our active development applications, including Toll Brothers who are here today, they understand these requirements. They've seen them. They know that while this could be adopted today, uh they will be held to this standard.

1:37:58 – 1:39:20Speaker 1

Okay, great. Thank you. And uh and like you said, you know, uh for the future, the planning board making sure all these are are checked off or done as opposed to, well, it's close enough. No, we don't want to do close enough. We want to have them all done and you know we've discussed that. No. And I I say thank you too for the subcommittee and the planning board and and to staff and Greg, thank you for for pushing this through. The only one suggestion and I think I suggested this last time and asked for it and I don't see it. Maybe I'm missing it. Uh we we started and put the definition of delineation down at the bottom but on the other page on that B42 all setbacks delineated. Uh, can we uh where delineated is used, can we auh put an asterct on that too and put it down at the bottom so we have that? I think you guys were going to do that. It may have slipped through the cracks. Um, just uh add uh the you know what we're referring to as far as when we say delineated and put that down at the bottom as well like like we did with uh 27 B27. And that's the only place I think I saw it. if there's any place else that's in there if you could do it the same. U but I think that's the only two locations. Okay, you guys uh that good.

1:39:18 – 1:39:59Speaker 1

Okay. All right. Uh can I get a motion to if there's no other um comments or suggestions um discussion? Motion to approve. I make a motion that we approve the new text amendment 25 202506 appendix 2B submittal requirements and approval of land use consistency statement uh with the addition of the definition at the bottom of the page is stated by Mayor Bell. Thank you. Okay. All right. All in uh all in favor.

1:39:57Speaker 1

All right. Unanimous. Awesome. Thank you guys. We'll move forward. That's good. Um

1:40:08Speaker 1

yeah, we need the statement of reasonleness or whatever.

1:40:14 – 1:41:17Speaker 1

And I don't have that. Uh And I may not have that. And I don't have that. I'm sorry. Everything else that out loud.

1:41:14 – 1:41:55Speaker 1

Yes, please. The proposed amendments to the unified development ordinance are found to be generally consistent with the adopted land use plan. However, while these amendments do not further specific any specific goal or policy of the plan, they also do not act contrary to any specific goal or policy of the plan. Nor would they prevent the administration and implementation of the plan or preclude the fulfillment of the community vision as set forth in the plan. Additionally, the proposed amendment is found to be reasonable in that it continues to improve upon the organization of existing ordinances and provide additional clarity for staff, appointed and elected officials and residents.

1:41:53 – 1:42:08Speaker 1

Okay. Can I get a motion to accept the consistency statement as stated? Okay. All in favor?

1:42:05 – 1:42:48Speaker 1

Okay. Unanimous. Thank you, Karen. All right. So, we're We're good to move forward. Okay. Um, new business, uh, discussion of the bond, uh, that we we actually moved down. Here is the, uh, bond release of, uh, GSA2400869 in the amount of $48,771.25. Um, anyone want to discuss that first? Greg, would you just give us a little update on this one, the history and what's before us?

1:42:45 – 1:44:42Speaker 1

Uh, yes, Councilman. So, uh, this is a bond release for the Belmar subdivision, specifically a performance bond for the road itself. That road is private. It is not a road that will be adopted by the NC DOT. And the bond amount to be honest is is fairly minimal for a road at 49,000. Um this is only for the road. This is not for storm water measures or other things. This road um it's just a simple two-lane road. It does not have curb. It does not have gutter. Uh and it serves um a dozen homes. Um the situation is unique for several reasons. Uh, one is that yes, the bond is only for the road and it's only for that amount. So, um, sometimes we bundle bonds together for storm water infrastructure in phases. Uh, I'll give an example of another project that's asked for the release of bond money. That's uh, several million dollars. This is this 50k. Um, this also is in a development where the homes are custom and built by individual builders rather than a large-scale home builder or developer. So, um, the town's concern at the time was that uh, this project is not built out. There are there are several lots, in fact, almost half the lots have not even started yet. So, the town's concern was why are we releasing money for uh a road that's going to incur further damage? Uh, one, the the bond holder has fulfilled their obligation by building the road, and B, uh, the lots have been sold. So, they're not the liability of the developer anymore. These are these are bought by private parties who intend to build homes in the future. That's not the developer's responsibility or fault.

1:44:40 – 1:45:21Speaker 1

It's that the home builders will build as they as they need and as we want. Um the town has expressed desire for custom homes um to be built and that's what this development fulfills. And so yes um there the work does not appear to be done in terms of the development. Um if you drove out there today you'd say the development is not done and that is accurate but the road is done and so we are obligated to release the funds for this private road. This is not a liability to the public. This is a private road. this would be the responsibility of the homeowners association upon the release of this money.

1:45:19 – 1:45:39Speaker 1

Gotcha. Yeah. I guess I was just concerned that it was we were releasing it prematurely because I didn't want to incur any extra burden on the HOA to homeowners in there for future damage and uh it could be costly to repair roads like that. So, that was that was my big concern.

1:45:36 – 1:46:39Speaker 1

Yeah. And I I think you know a general statement was made earlier today that we're being kind of easy on developers that we're letting them get away with things. Uh we've asked seven people have requested their bond money back. There's only one bond request before you tonight and that was done with uh great scrutiny by both Labella Associates and myself. We inspected it twice. Um, I provided a memorandum to you that was written Friday nights uh from Labella that stated seven reasons why bond should be released, including inspection details and reports. And so, this was not done uh willy-nilly. This was done with great scrutiny. In fact, uh I was I was pretty hard on the developer himself. I said, "We're not comfortable releasing this money until we're we're certain that things were done." and they spent a considerable amount of money improving the the front facade, the drainage, and some of the landscaping uh on that road uh to to bring it up to a higher standard.

1:46:36 – 1:47:32Speaker 1

Okay. I notice it's not for tonight, but uh uh for I know there's in this the sink the declaration of covenants and pertaining to the the water quality and the storm water issues in in in that there's a lot of blank spaces in there. So, it gets down to that. Uh, just want to make sure everything's, you know, complete with that. And as as mentioned in public comment tonight, uh, I' I've driven by and seen the uh the the mud sprinkler. And so, we just need to make sure that uh is is is taken care of and the scing funds taken care of. So again, we want to protect, this council wants to protect the homeowners and wants to protect, you know, uh, future, you know, residents who, you know, uh, from anything that could possibly harm them or affect them, uh, financially in a neighborhood. And so, uh, so anyway, I I know I'm

1:47:33 – 1:48:11Speaker 1

track here, so I just want to make sure that's all taken care of when it comes down to that. Yeah, very fair points. The syncing fund is in place. They do have funding uh for future maintenance. Um storm water pond. I'll just say that that's not the subject of our discussion today. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Um any any discussion, comments? Uh you guys. Okay. Can get a motion on this uh you know for for whichever way you guys. I'll make a motion that we approve the release of the bond with the amount listed. Okay. Okay.

1:48:08 – 1:48:43Speaker 1

48,770. What was that? 1225. Yes. Okay. So, uh 48,771 and 25 cents. 25 cents. Yes. Okay. All right. Can I get a motion to uh approve then? Or not a motion, but uh all in favor? I Okay. All right. It's unanimous. All right. Thank you. We'll move forward. Um code enforcement report. Go ahead.

1:48:40 – 1:49:24Speaker 1

It's in your packets. We are working on getting um a couple properties, one that's been in foreclosure, getting it um abated, and I've got one uh ready to get cleaned up, but it'll cost us $6,000. Will you then put a weed on the property for that amount? Yes, we will. However, the property is unbuildable, so I'm not sure if we'll be able to get it back. But and you guys are looking at every avenue, you know. What do you mean? Well, like like Tom said, you know, there's there's lean. You're going to put a lean on it to see, you know, because Yeah. fork out that money

1:49:23 – 1:49:57Speaker 1

and when it sells, we can get the money, but there's no guarantee it'll sell because a house can't be built on it. Yeah. The lean would be the typical response. That's how we would do it. That's how we've done it in the past. Yeah, we're looking at alternate bids or alternate costs. Okay. All right. Cool. At least you're trying to come up with some ideas to, you know, Y, we're all about saving money. Okay. All right. Anything else as far as that goes? Um, I don't have anything else.

1:49:51 – 1:50:45Speaker 1

Okay. Um, update on from Leslie from my finance officer. You do have in your packets the July financial statements. It's the first month of the year, so not a whole lot going on. Um, we have received the scroll for the taxes from the county. Kim has it. She's working on getting it converted from their format to our format. Sometimes that takes a couple iterations to get it right, but hopefully we'll have it and bills will go out in the not too distant future. And the only other thing I have is next month, I owed it to you this month, but I don't have it, is the quarterly update of our grants for skiff and the park, but I will have them in your packet next month.

1:50:42 – 1:51:27Speaker 1

Okay. But question, I see, you know, uh, between 25 and 2025 2026, there's, you know, uh, the projections, I guess, are lower. I guess that's just all it is, the projections at this at this point, right? Uh, because the numbers are smaller. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's um the tax rate did go down. So, you're going to have lower total budget this year than we did last year. Gotcha. Okay. One question. Does it look like the estimated increase of values is going to fall in line or do you have any? I have not I have not seen that yet. Kim has it, but I have not I personally haven't seen it. You'll know.

1:51:25 – 1:51:57Speaker 1

I will know. Yes. I'll be interested to see did we how well did we guess or right not on overall value increase. When I saw Kim last week, she had it. I did not take a look at it. So, but I will. So, yeah. Just curious where it finally shut down. Yeah. Hopefully, we're close. Okay. I'm sure we are. Yeah, I'm sure we are. Cool. Thank you, Liz. Uh update from the town planner and town administrator.

1:51:53 – 1:53:10Speaker 1

Thank you, mayor, members of council. Uh based on the last presentation you heard last month and the presentation you heard tonight, we have two pending development proposals which is soon soon go to the planning board. As I stated on record previously, they're going to be held to that new appendix 2B that we just adopted. They understand that. We understand that. Um so I can't say if they've met all those items yet. We we like to have them present and provide some flexibility for making improvements before we do that. But we should get both of those applications very soon. Those should be the next two things uh that are brought before you. Um I also mentioned last month about the bonds. Um and again we have the one that you all just discussed. Uh we're holding our feet to the fire on the other on the other bonds. So I I said something along lines along the lines of you've had you would have a bunch coming before you. um we're holding them to that to that high standard and so we're not ready to lease any of those funds yet. We have Labell Associates and myself that need to personally inspect all those projects before we release any public money. So we're being we're trying to be really good stewards of taxpayer money and not releasing the bond money for these projects until we're absolutely certain.

1:53:07 – 1:53:30Speaker 1

Gotcha. Okay. All right. Um anything else? Uh the forest lawn and potter road roundabout is in the act road rightway acquisition phase. So we're chugging along on that. Okay. Um, and you said what? The force lawn and um road hotter road.

1:53:28 – 1:54:11Speaker 1

Also, I've met uh you know with DOT concerning the force lawn and Antioch church road where the light's going to go in right there and uh and that should be everything's worked out and uh sometimes it takes DOT just to get, you know, all their ducks in a row and uh so and that should be by the end of the year that light should be going in right there. And so that's sort of a tricky intersection anyway. So there there will be a light right there and and for the folks in going into uh Brook Haven u there'll be like a crosswalk where you push the button and you know that you know the hand goes up that kind of thing. So uh so anyway by the end of the year if not soon um okay any anything else?

1:54:10 – 1:54:32Speaker 1

That's all I have. Okay. Um transportation report in le of time I'll just uh I'll save mine till till next month. uh have a few updates but uh it's this they're not biggies so uh council Darcy you mean comments comments yes

1:54:29 – 1:55:11Speaker 1

uh just thanks for everyone for coming out and providing your points of view um we value your feedback as a whole um whether it's at the meetings or stalking I mean finding us at Harris ter phone calls um and yes even emails and for clarity sake and I wish that everyone were still present, but um for clarity state sake, my vote has always represented and will continue to represent feedback from the community and a vision for the future of our community as a whole as guided by our land use plan. Great. Thank you, Darcy. Um Jeff,

1:55:08 – 1:55:40Speaker 1

thank you to staff for another great job. I mean, I think every time, you know, we have these reports come in, we know what a good job they're doing. Thank you to everybody that's come out tonight. Uh I guess the only other thing I'd mention is we all already have been told that uh before we meet again, school will be in session and that means the traffic and the buses and everything else. So everybody everybody that's here is probably watching this meeting knows what that means. So we we get ready for it. Yep. Yep. You're right, Tom.

1:55:37 – 1:56:26Speaker 1

Yeah. I want to thank staff as well for for all the work they've done. And Greg, thank you. you did a lot of work for this one and it clarified a lot of things for the public out there and I really appreciate that and I want to thank the planning board for all the hard work they have done to get us to this point. There have been a good number of text amendments adopted by us and between the uh what the planning board has done in the last number of months has been very helpful I think for the town and I greatly appreciate it. I thank everybody for coming out and um caring about Weddington and expressing their opinions on what they think about Weddington and and told brothers. Thank y'all for coming out and giving us a good presentation. I appreciate it. And with that, I'm done.

1:56:25 – 1:57:41Speaker 1

Okay. And I you know, I want to say the same thing as Tom said. Thank you uh Greg Subcommittee Planning Board for pulling we we've done a lot of changes to the UDO here here in the last year, year and a half. We we've strengthened it. We've made it tighter. We've covered stuff that, you know, I feel like there were just sort of things that need to be more detailed and and covered. And so we we've done that. So we we we've made a lot of ground. And so uh so no, so so thank you. Thank you guys for what you're doing. Thank you, Greg, especially. And I'm going to recap by saying reach out to uh uh Congressman Mark Harris. thank him for what he's doing and and and going to back that for the town with Zip bill and to uh and reach out to and but also to encourage them to be, you know, be supportive of this bill. Um with that being said, I have one thing at the end. We're going to take about a five or 10 minute break. We're going to go into a close session because we just need to talk about some, you know, some matters that we need we need to talk about. And so uh so we'll let everybody sort of clear out then we'll go into our close. But uh uh other than that I am good. Uh can I get a motion to

1:57:38 – 1:57:54Speaker 1

adjourn? Recess. Just recess. We're not we're not going to adjourn yet. We're going to take a break before we adjourn. We have to adjourn after our close session. All right. So move. Yes. Okay. So moved. Can I get a

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