Library Board - Regular Meeting

Great.

So anytime you like, Jennifer.

You got it. I'm all set. So we will call tonight's Monday, August 31st, City of Waukesha Parks Recreation and Forestry Board to order with rule.

All right. Alderman Camacho? Here. Steve Johnson? Here. Sarah Roth is absent. John Schmitz is absent. Alderman Wells? Here. Erica Yoss is absent. Jennifer Walner?

Here.

And then Eric Hummer here.

Great, we will move ahead to public comment. I think we're good. Okay, closing that and moving ahead to approval of the minutes for July 20th, 2026.

Motion to approve. I'll second.

Motion from Eric Hummer, second from Alderman Camacho. Any further discussion? Great, we'll take that to a vote. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? And that passes unanimously. Okay, moving on to discussion decision items. We have review and possible action on recommendation to the Finance Committee to propose 2027 through 2031 Executive Community Investment Program, also known as CIP, budget for the Parks, Recreation, and Forestry Department.

That's a lot up there. Okay, a few things before we get into it is the timing of the meeting was based on the budget book. So we felt it made sense to delay the PRF board meeting. The budget book didn't come out until late that Friday when our regular Monday meeting would have been. So at least this way you had a chance to at least look through the budget book and the items in there. Number two is the first meeting of finance, which is typically not a whole lot of, well, there's generally no action taken. And it's all, and this was held true, it was all a discussion and review of the, we call it the Cape the Tiger meeting. And so it was all fleet, really related. And the new set up this year is John Weinkauf. Some of you might be familiar with John. John's with DPW, and he's one of the supervisors over there, and his new role is fleet manager for the city vehicles, et cetera, et cetera. So John, but we were well represented. We had a whole park rep crew there, and Melissa in particular, in going over the fleet items. So it's really a kind of, as Alderman Piper would put it, it's a show and tell. of fleet requests, but we'll go over those items tonight and we'll get you up to speed. So there's been one meeting with finance, but we felt that it would be more beneficial to give you a chance to look at the budget book instead of meeting Monday right away that we've delayed. And we actually had more people available on this date anyhow, so it kind of worked out. So with that, we'll get into it. We got a handy-dandy cheat sheet, as we'll call it here. There you go. And we have all the projects laid out that has anything to do with park rec forestry and CIP. The colors, all the salmon colors represent projects. And that's usually where a lot of focus is on. And the light blue, that represents the equipment. It's really IT-related items. So we do have some items with that. And then green is the fleet. I think we had nine total items with fleet. So the budget book and... Again, if you had a chance, in the budget book, it showed and had pictures of the fleet items, and of the 2027 request, they had pictures. The elder years, there was no pictures. But we'll save that for last. We'll get into the projects first. And the first one we have is our playground project. Each year, we try to do at least one playground project. And for 2027, we have Hyer Park. slated. That's our oldest playground that hasn't been replaced yet. And that made it into the 2000s at least. I remember that project was taking place when I first started. So that was 26 years ago. And so that's up. And same methodology is we have a community build that we work with that. And We also work with the Public Works Department to get the site prep and things put into shape for when the community build kicks in, we're ready to go. And that also includes costs for surfacing and important plays. And cost of playgrounds have definitely gone up. We're looking at some alternatives, actually, for other alternatives that are expensive as well. unless we revert back to like wood chips or sand or pea gravel. So I don't think we want to do that, but it's costly. The surfacing is costing, it's inching up toward as much as the equipment, and the equipment isn't getting any less expensive. The biggest challenge is some of the cost is related to if we were to have a contractor do some prep work versus DPW. So the resources with staffing is getting tougher with unfilled positions, et cetera. But that is the estimated cost. And I have to preface the whole thing is that The projects in particular that's reviewed with the city engineering department and the city engineer in particular, it's a requirement on the review process. This currently does not have a port in place surface. It's got kind of a mix.

It's got mats and stuff down.

Okay, very observant. There's actually an old playground. That's totally going away. That's the one with the black mats. Then it's the playground that has port in place. That's the one that we're replacing. So we don't need two. This one's going to be actually a little bigger. The one on the north side of the tennis courts, correct? Correct. Yeah, they're both north of the tennis courts.

Okay, yeah.

But the one with the – that is a relic, and – one's that one remain uh i know all the comings wanted to keep it back in the day and it just never left so this is our chance uh we really don't need it uh what we have there is a plenty big for the site right this would be an improvement and a tad larger than what the existing playground is but when i'm talking the existing player that's the one with with the port place So what year is that one?

That one's a 2000.

A 2000. So that was fresh. I remember that. So we're actually now finally into 2000. Greenway Terrace was our last 1990 vintage.

So if we looked at what we could do differently with the playgrounds to get the maximum amount of age out of them, we were just at... Pebble Valley, and that's held up pretty well, but you start to notice that the first thing that goes on the playgrounds is the plastic, and with the newer playgrounds, a lot of it's the ropes and the rubber. Have we talked to any of the vendors about, you know, I imagine that when they lay out a playground, they've got a certain size platform or they've got a certain spacing for the post that, you know, if we could get them to commit to, hey, we put the posts in, and then at a 15-year mark, we replace all the plastic hardware, all the platforms, the stuff that's going. I think with the number of playgrounds we have, and we're really doing one a year, we're on like a 30-year cycle with these, I think we need to figure out some way to, like, keep these fresh and viable so they don't get to a point where we have to replace them because it could become a safety risk. Yeah. Like, hire has made it this far. It's made it, you know, 20, 27 years, about. And I know that when we replaced Dopp Park, no, not Dopp, David's Park, we had to, that one kind of snuck up on us because it, a new tunnel. I mean, have we tried to work that out with a couple vendors?

Yeah, well, Melissa can speak to that as well, but I know that we've done all of the above. And every playground is unique. We have some playgrounds that are used more than others, high traffic. Our average, we were just talking about that today, actually, we're averaging around playgrounds will last as well 25 years, give or take. For example, Greenway, we did the 30. This will be 30 years.

Yeah, that one year we're going to start falling behind.

Well, we've been doing two, and then we even did three in some of those years. So with the current level and staying within the financial management plan, a real balancing act and and we have other needs within the city as well overall the playgrounds considering the volume we have are in pretty good shape and the greenway again is the oldest playground and that one's being done this year but yes we do replace elements play elements out as long as parts are are available which they tend to be for quite some time we even cannibalize the old ones and keep it if it's the right brand uh then we have a fighting chance to do that but you know reasons for replacement is not just we're interior but it's also they become uh I guess, not as appealing or interesting. So always interesting play elements in the early 2000s is maybe not so interesting in 2027. And so that's another thing we look at. Patching-wise, so we're on a program every year. We do patch work where it makes sense. And overall, you know, the maintenance is – We still haven't found anything that's better than Port-in-Place as far as overall maintenance. Cleaning, you know, if there's a spill or a blood-borne pathogen situation, we have a fighting chance of clean head versus, you know, certainly wood chips or things of that nature. There's a new product, relatively new, called what's basically a synthetic turf. So you see that in a few of the school playgrounds. And... Doesn't seem too bad, it's almost as expensive, it's maybe a tad less, but our concern is it has a pile, and the pile can conceal glass, needles, things of that nature, harder to clean, and there's more cleaning that right but the schools have kind of went that way i know pew hockey playgrounds have went that way i think sussex has went that way they're really really working on this doesn't seem to offer a great upside versus the board play yeah an upside is you can uh you can replace it probably a little easier because it's carpeting it's basically indoor outdoor company but i'm probably butchering that but We're reevaluating what's out there. Then you have panels for playgrounds that's been around for a while. And tiles, I should say. And that's pretty much it, unless you go back to more organic stuff. But, yes, yeah, we're totally on the same page with that. try to recycle as much as we can, refurbish. All the vendors are generally pretty darn good. The equipment doesn't change huge. That quickly, right. But try to make something that is kind of up to date. So if we get 25, I know Oliver and Piper's been asking those questions. Our goal is to get like 25 years out of it. We sometimes stretch to 30.

I'd just like to see if there's, with the overall budget tightening, if there's a way we can set ourselves up for more success there. Yeah. Oh, go ahead.

And we do as much maintenance and replacement of parts as we can. We actually, the past two years, I would say, have stepped up considerably. Our preventative maintenance program, on the playgrounds and the frequency of our inspections. So we try to be proactive, like with decks is one that you'll see, we call it delaminating on platforms or steps. So we do have a couple of quote unquote spare parts. We take off, we send them out for powder coating, get them recoded. And so we kind of rotate certain things. David's was an example where parts became obsolete. And a lot of manufacturers, with the way the United States is with liability laws, no one will retrofit an old playground. So it has to do with the fall zones. So if there's equipment that's not compatible with the fall zones and the heights and the spaces the bars are apart and things like that, essentially the playground companies will So, which is unfortunate on a couple different levels. Yeah, so like David's, we couldn't get a new slide. But things like Rivers Crossing, we've replaced like sections of like the volcano climber. We replace slides when we can. When we see hairline cracks, we try and get them on order and get them replaced sooner rather than wait until it actually cracks. Because sometimes, again, with those, depending on how old the playground is, we might not be able to get those. So we're trying to be a little more aggressive in some of the repairs, is maybe a good way to put it, too.

Okay. Are we standardizing what materials, or rather what equipment specifically, brand-wise, that we're using across all parks? In which case, we could potentially have, like, oh, if this is all the same brand, maybe we have some supplies in the back that we could just bring out.

Yes and no.

Great.

I think we're, I would call it in the middle.

Yep.

Because, well, I'll answer the finance part of it. That if you get all in on one, then you kind of have a monopoly on the pricing. So we've tended to use three major vendors and kind of rotate and sell. see who can give us the best pricing deal overall. It does change from year to year. They're all entities, cost cooperatives or co-op purchasing programs, but the products do vary, and it does then at least get some variation in the equipment. There's differences, but they're all kind of, fairly similar to, but it's really a pricing thing and no one gets overly comfortable that you're automatically gonna be, everything's a big one, I'll pick on landscape structures. So everything's landscape structures and there's pros and cons to each one. So we do use primarily three big companies throughout the system.

and that seems to work pretty well and and that gives us enough variety too for replacement parts uh so we're not uh so it's really right in the middle yeah no that makes sense thanks and a lot of things too um like certain rivets are standard on most playground equipment across very across various brands in the industry um so certain things like that like we keep on hand um and then some stuff a lot of the joints. So like if you have like a friendship swing, those have larger brackets. So the brackets, the joints, things that wear quicker, those we will take from old playground equipment or we make sure we have a set on hand. Anything that's kind of got some motion that kids can get a pile on top of and weigh down, let's say.

Any other questions on playground? All good questions, really good. Playgrounds is a big deal and we try to definitely give it, do justice and treat it that way. The next project that is proposed for 27 is a related mini Yolo Park complex. It's a parking lot. with the new pavilion. Just to give you a quick update on that. Yes, the project is moving forward and there's been some delays working with city engineering with the consulting firm that's doing the plans. We're hired out through city engineering. ISG, maybe you've heard of them or not, but they do all the city projects and So without making a bunch of excuses, but it's really been kind of outside of our control. That project's been delayed a bit, but we definitely are looking at going out to bid very soon. Now that things got readjusted with the designing components, things are moving pretty good now, and this will be going out to bid in the very near future, and then breaking ground this fall. So we'll have a groundbreaking ceremony for the new pavilion. This kind of gives you a shot. Oh, there you go. You can move that cursor. Thanks, Mark. And that shows you kind of where the new pavilion would be. Maybe put the cursor right on the building there. There you go. And the reasons for that location, we kind of got into last year. It's a buildable spot. It's not technically on the landfill, but still has some challenges. Then an area that's just, I guess, two marks left, so you can point on the red blotch. There you go. That's where we're going to be putting some grass fields, which we've had before in that corner of Hoover and West. three U8 fields, which would be nice and handy to concessions. And our unscientific study tells us U8 fields generate the most customers for concessions. Think about it. You've got the littles. You've got the bottom shelf. You've got the littles, and the littles not only have their parental units, but also grandpa, grandma, cousins, nephews, all that. So use your imagination a little, and where that is... Where the cursor is, that's where we're going to have three U8 grass fields. I first see a thousand temper tantrums.

Something like that. That's a pretty small parking lot. How many spaces are actually going to be there? Is it geared more towards the handicap or accessible parking? Because that's a small little...

Yeah, well, the idea is because we're going to have a connection from the Hoover lot down to the fields, and you've got the connection. It looks real distant on the diagram, but it really in reality isn't that bad. What we call the south lot that we share with the church. So we're shooting for like 40, 40 stalls, 40 to 45, and we're going to tuck them in along the ready mix world. for some parking and it won't take away any field space that way. The other, the biggie is to support the building as well. So you get extra parking for the park in general and we have no exposure off of West Avenue. So this will give that to us. And then you can drive up to the building and drive up to the plan. When we get the more detailed plans on the building, we can kind of show how you can drive up to the building, unload your stuff if you're renting the buildings. Again, refresh memories is three components to that. It's not a huge building, but it'll have a community room that has capacity for 80, which is a nice party size. large most of our rental requests. Obviously restrooms, try to get as many as we can in there. And the last component, of course, is concessions. And so that, again, will be connected by a drive and then a parking lot area right off of West Avenue. It's really set up well for that. And there's already like three pre-existing, what I call it, like aprons. But if you're really bored, you can spend some time and you can kind of visualize that firsthand, what that looks like. And we're going to resurrect fields. We used to, for years, we had fields on that corner, and we're going to resurrect that. But now we'll have a building, and that will all make a lot more sense with the three U8s. So the U8s where we've had before are right behind. Maybe, Mark, we can move in on behind the field number of all that. the west field. Yeah, there you go. We had the U-8s right behind that before. Yeah, in between the parking lot and the field. So that's gone because now we're going to have a pathway that will connect from the parking lot to the new building. And the U-8s now are going to be relocated down in that corner that we showed before. There you go. So parking, very practical. We also have lighting as part of the budget in our parking lot budget. And so that is, we didn't have the capacity last year to have all that included within the budget. We had to work within what, The parameters were given for CIP. So we had enough for the building, but we figured by the time the building gets around being built, we would have a phase two with the parking lot, and it would all look like it all came together. So the timeline would be, we're thinking optimistically, we can get a lot done over the winter, too, with the building, that we would have a grand opening next fall, And so by the end of spring, we think we're going to be pretty darn close being done. It all depends on how we can, how that spring turns out, because that's very volatile with weather conditions. But as far as really opening it up, we definitely would be ready for the fall season kickoff. So basically a year from now, we would have the building open to perhaps earlier, so maybe June open. So any questions on the parking lot? Okay. So then we move into Frank Park, and this one falls under sports category. I guess the chart, if you can read that, is the category on the far right is, there you go, Those categories, they align with what you see in the budget book. So we call those our orgs. That's our budget orgs. So when we refer to orgs, then we refer to those categories, and they will be in the official CIP booklet that way. So this org is on our athletic facilities. This is one that we've talked about back when we did the field as a future phase two. And Carroll University has some monies that I think the stars might be aligned. And we would do a cost sharing. Here's the area for those probably all you guys are pretty familiar with the ball field and how the seating is really not the greatest. And we want to get rid of those two little ugly green storage shell buildings and come up with a new design for the ball field. a seating plan and also have some storage underneath the bleachers and so that's yet to be designed out but the budget is 400 200 grand from carol and 200 city would match is what the plan is and be a very nice improvement well we also redo the pavement so right now the pavement is not the greatest, it's asphalt, and it's chewed up, and so we would like to make that, well, for sure asphalt, but we're shooting for concrete, do concrete padding, clean that all up. So the next time you're in a frame park or a city, take a look at that, and you'll get an idea. And it's fairly straightforward, but how we go about, we're looking at more of a modular seating area, I wouldn't say grandstand per se, but it would be more than just bleachers. It would be something that you would have like five rows and then it would actually enclose to the point where you could store things underneath the bleachers. And also a press box or area, because the high schools in particular in Carroll are looking for a press box. So it would be definitely a step up. So that is the FRAME project. Carol's excited about it. We talked about it since 2019. And the timing and the funding just weren't there. Now they have raised some monies. And amazingly enough, we're almost, this is the end. Yeah, in October it will be six years since the project. So time flies.

Any questions on that one? I think as we're designing that, because we're still very early in the process, I think we should make sure that we're designing it so if we want to expand it in the future, we're not going to be demoing to do that. Not that we've done that yet, but I think the master plan for Fox River kind of envisioned a bigger ballpark there. And so making sure that we're not boxing ourselves in if we decide to expand the seating, expand the concessions, expand the amenities there that we aren't tacking on additional costs to demo it and building that framework.

Yeah, the key word is modular. And so the nicer seating behind home plate with the press box will be a modular unit. What that means is it's semi-permanent. So if you had to, you can disassemble it and move it somewhere else or whatever. Then the wings would be more traditional bleacher seed, but nicer bleachers, you know, aluminum versus, I'm not even sure what we got there, but they're, I don't believe they're aluminum, probably, yeah. Wood metal. And they're the same bleachers that were there 26 years ago. So you can envision right behind home that that would be more of the modular unit with the storage underneath it. And then the wings would be traditional winchers. So that gives us a lot of flexibility because the winchers can always move around. And it would be more than enough seating to accommodate, you know, like a north-south game, for example. They draw big.

Yeah, I'm thinking like the press box. The press box we can afford to build now may not be the press box we wanted to have.

Yeah. And if things change where there's that opportunity to do something bigger, which we had, and we won't rehash all that, but there's different sentiments about how big and what should go down there. We know that there's a partnership with Carol that's gonna last, and so we're building it with that in mind, where we can do better, for sure, but without having actually like a fixed building. So this would be things that could be reprogrammed, repositioned, relocated, all the res. We always have a need for something. But I have a feeling this will probably take care of us for quite some time. And it will help the university out and certainly will help the city out. And the baseball field really have had nothing but positives on the ball field itself. batting cages and dugouts, so that turned out well. Probably the only other improvement we have, kind of eyeballed for down the road, is the lighting. The lighting is still metal halide, which is still really good, actually, but not as cost-effective. That went in in 2012, so we've got some years left on it. And it hasn't been a huge issue, but that would be something that down the road with technology and to stay in tune with all our other lighting systems, then that would be consistent. But that is not a LED. That's an LED. I got to run. My son just had to go to the hospital.

Oh, no?

Yeah. I'm sorry.

No, we don't. We'll call Sarah. Can you phone it in?

Maybe. She's kind of on call. Standby.

So we can continue the presentation. We definitely can.

And I think there's still value to go through it, even if we can't make a recommendation, a formal one. So any other questions?

No.

Perfect. Okay, then the next we had is another partnership that we talked about a few years back, is the Smarks field. And long story short on that one is the folks that were behind fundraising said they pretty much have tapped out, and they tapped out at $164,636. which is nothing to sneeze at. And we definitely want to utilize that money. Won't be able to do as much as the original plan was talking about. But the new hybrid plan would be turfing the field, field number one. And actually, I don't know, Mark, if you can find that. That Jim Dandy, there you go. So point two, field one. So that's the field that's right now all skinned and used by North for varsity girls softball. And of course, the tournaments that go on at the complex are nonstop. So this would be the championship field. But what this would get us, and we have another visual. Let's see how good Mark is on this one. that shows the uh an overlay of what would be turfed and what would remain grass there you go here is the actual field and then that uh uh the brown would be turf and we want to do the warning track so maybe point to the warning track area there there you go and then the the wings That would be turf as well. And that way we don't have to repaint the fall lines and warm up areas. They tend to get a lot of wear actually on the sideline. That would clean that up. And everything else would remain grass. So this is not a new thing. Find it from college facilities down to little league fields. I think Vernon, not Vernon, Big Bend, one of those two. They have hybrid fields. Muskego has hybrid fields. And Whitewater has had one for quite some time where this follows that pattern. We have enough funding. We would be matching a little more than the donations. The breakout would be... Their share again is 164,636, and then that city's share would be 235,364. That way we get a nice feel, especially, I never say never, but you won't get rained out because of rain. You'll get canceled because of tornadoes or high winds or lightning, but you won't get canceled because of rain. And it'd be still a cool field for the kids to play on. And that's the best we can do with the monies that are donated. No lights. So that'll make the neighbors happy. But it's a start in the right direction and a way to recognize Jackson Sparks and what we went through back in 2021, I want to say. 2022. Shortly after the parade. tragedy the uh so any questions on that it's fairly straightforward and uh yeah we plan on uh getting going on this thing as soon as we can once we know we have the green light so next uh project we have is with the uh the river walk oh no sorry shootsy here we go this is the exciting one is we've got a variety of HVAC-related things that need to get changed up. And Melissa knows this by heart.

Yes. So I could tell you how many condensers, rooftop units, AC handlers, air handler returns – So over the years, Shoot C, this building has been edited on to several times. We've seen that with the flooring components. We've seen that with the roofs. Now we're moving on to HVAC. So for next year, the primary focus is going to be the rooftop air conditioner for the gym. Kind of got limped through a little bit. We did REPLACE THE COMPRESSOR FOR THE AIR CONDITIONER THIS YEAR. SO WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AIR. WE HAD A COUPLE WARM DAYS, BUT I THINK WE GOT THROUGH OKAY. SO THAT IS ONE ITEM. THE RIVERVIEW ROOM HAS ITS OWN ROOFTOP UNIT FOR FURNACE AND AC, AS DOES THE MEETING ROOM AND KITCHEN COMBO. SO THOSE WOULD BE TWO ADDITIONAL ROOFTOP UNITS FOR THAT AREA. AND THEN THERE'S TWO BOILERS THAT SERVE THE GYMNASIUM AS WELL. SO THERE'S PROBABLY GYMNASIUM, ACTIVITY ROOM, OFFICE. THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, FIVE DIFFERENT ZONES ESSENTIALLY IN THE SHOOTSIE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ADDED ONTO OVER THE YEARS. So as part of that, what we're looking to do with the budget we've been given is also have some alternates in there. So we're going to be working with Joe Welter in the engineering department. So he's very familiar with HVAC systems. So he and Tony are working closely to work with possibly a mechanical engineering firm to replace the air handler for the –

Yeah, I'll just throw, since you had that break, Tony is in Tony Combroski.

Oh, sorry, yes.

Is that something you throw at Tony? Yeah, there's a couple of Tonys.

So rethinking the existing air handler unit, and if we were to replace that as well, even though right now functions PERFECTLY FINE. IT'S A LITTLE OLDER, BUT IT HAS VERY GOOD BONES, SO TO SPEAK. SO THE COMPONENTS HAVE BEEN REPLACED, MOTORS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE AS AN ALTERNATE REPLACING THAT AS WELL, GIVEN THE BUDGET WE HAVE HERE, SO THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR OVERHAUL OF THE HVAC FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING. THERE'S SEVERAL OF THESE UNITS FOR THE GYMNASIUM ARE IN THE CEILING ABOVE THE HALLWAY. So over the years, we've had some things leak. As I'm sure you know, your furnace does in your home, things like that. We're not worthy. Thank you guys.

Sorry, I just have a headache.

This will help.

It's similar to like if one part on your body hurts, then you hurt something else that distracts it. So we're looking at kind of a couple different alternates with the HVAC for this in resizing some of the ductwork, some of the venting, because some of the systems are grandfathered in with old codes. So we're trying to find what's going to be the most optimum option for building efficiency, longevity, and then also taking into account our CIP budget as well and being mindful of that. So that should take care of a large chunk of the buildings, HVAC, everything else has been replaced in the past 10 years or so for like the activity room, the offices, things like that. So this... Should last until I retire from working from the city again for the HVAC units. So any questions? I'm very excited.

Maybe you mentioned that.

Oh, no, I did. Yes.

It's up for being re-sanded and resurfaced.

Yep. So that was installed in 2015. So every year we recode it, do some minor repairs, things like that. This will actually be a sanding. So we'll be going down into the wood, the lines, everything will be replaced, new lines painted. We're going to work with the recreation staff to see if we need new lines, different lines. If everything works, do we still need as many lines as we have on there? Do we utilize them in that design as well? So that will be a nice, hopefully like not,

Mark figures out how many tricolour cords you can put on there. Right.

Trying to figure out how we can stack them on top of each other.

Scagger. I think we maxed out in a traditional way in there.

So, yeah, we can do scaffolding. There you go. There you go.

Modular.

Yeah.

We got a little bit of that right down the road. Let's do that.

So that, and that quote we got from a company, And we'll be getting several quotes for that. But the primary company we've been working with the past several years has been very responsive. They've been very good on cleanup, on being quick with the timing as well. We had some other issues over the years with some companies regarding, I'll say, cleanup after they were done. Because sometimes there can be quite an order and quite a mess from the materials. We'd be working to get that scheduled possibly over longer closure, whether it's in the spring or fall, kind of at switchovers between summer seasons or the holiday season. So we'll be working with staff on shutting the gym down for that time period. Any questions on that? Very glamorous shoot seat.

All very necessary to keep the shoot seat afloat. The next project is associated with the Riverwalk. This is the section between, I call it the Spring House and the Barstool Bridge. There's a component there that, there's not really an official name for it, but we've dubbed it the Overwalk. It's kind of below, picture says a thousand words. Mark, if you could cursor in. That's actually up below that. That's the bus depot. That's the depot. There you go. You see that brown? That's it. There you go. So that area that is connected by the walk trail on that side of the river, totally gone. Well, not gone, but beyond repair. And from last year's 100-year storm, which is now every other year, and so what to do with it has been a real, real challenge, and the repairs aren't simple. So we've been working, actually the city administrator, he's been involved with this, and there's a lot of interest from the folks in downtown, in particular on that side of the river, downtown, see what we could do. And so right now it's sectioned off. So it's got everything open up until those two ends. And we're trying to handle this in this budget process.

Is there any funds available from the original Riverwalk that they had, funds that were going to be available for kind of maintaining that? Potentially. The Riverwalk group is...

There's still funds there, correct?

Yeah.

There's still a... There's some funds, the Fox River Development Board. Yeah. Their funds are housed in the Community Foundation, so that's one of the things that we'll tap into but until we have a more definitive cost, so it's not factored in to the budget right now, it's not a guarantee, and they would have to approve using it toward that, though it would certainly be, we think, eligible in their minds, but they're really not active. There's three remaining members. And... But I do know the funds are housed in the community foundation. So this would be the avenue we would approach. So that price take could conceivably go down. But no guarantees. To make this project a little more complicated yet, you know that we're redoing our park system master plan, but at the same time, community development is doing what's called the artscape plan. And that one's actually been completed, the artscape. This is the section where the artscape happened to be. And they did have a look at revisiting, re-looking at what to do with the overlook. So the thought process here, it's the same firm that we're using for the park system plan. So most likely you'll be working with the firms called Damon Farber, DF, as we've I'm tired of saying Damon Farber. So DF is aware of this and familiar with it because being involved with those plans. And in the thinking, I know the city engineer has been involved, city administrator, community development. Everybody wants to see something happen with this. And in the thought process, which I think is a good thought process, is let's not just rebuild it the same way. So let's build it in a way where it's gonna be more resistant to flooding, which we know is gonna happen again. And that's where the trick is. So we need some time. We got some estimates as far as ballpark figures, how they're reconstructed. We just wanted it the same, but we don't want it exactly the same. So the $400,000 mark is a number that the city administrator is supporting. And Same as from an engineering perspective. Like I said, all these projects have been vetted with city administrator, finance, and also engineering department. It's one of the check-offs that we're required to do. So the 400 grand would be, we could probably replace it as is for a little less, but in order to do it, it would be, We're going to look at, do the best job we can with that being the cap. And if we can find other funds to help support that, to get that number down, as far as like city money, definitely we'll do that. But we need something to show in order to do those ask for money. So we're not quite there. But Steve, you're 100% correct that You know, there's some opportunity there. But we need a little time for the design process and the rethinking. So we could get at it a lot quicker if we just built it as is. But that's not where things left off. And it makes sense. So hopefully that's fairly clear. That's what we're trying to accomplish here. All right. Any other questions on that?

Now we get into, this is excitement at its finest, filter media replacement.

So Melissa, Melissa gets the non-exciting ones.

I get the essential ones. Oh, that's good. So filter media replacements. So between two pool systems, we try and incorporate almost every year if we can, some sort of CIP project improvements. HORV SPRINGS, THAT IS A SAND FILTER MEDIA. IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY SAND. IT IS A SILICA GLASS COMPONENT. WE WON'T GET INTO THAT. MANUFACTURED A SAND FILTRATION SYSTEM. BUCKNER, NEW BUCKNER WAS ALSO CREATED AND MANUFACTURED OR CONSTRUCTED WITH A SAND FILTER AS WELL. SO APPROXIMATELY EVERY EMPTY TRANSITION LAST TIME WE REPLACED THE SAND FILTER MEDIA WAS probably eight to 10 years ago, depending on... Was it 10? Okay.

That's what's recommended.

So try and get at least 10 years out of it. If you can stretch a little longer, great. But over the years, it tends to gather everything that filters through the pool system. As you can imagine, anything that ends up in the pool ends up in the filtration system. So that needs to be replaced over time. And so all of the media comes out and all new media is put in. As part of that as well, the way the filtration system works, there's pipes on the bottom underneath all of the media. Occasionally, if those break for whatever reason, foreign objects going through the filtration system, those need to be repaired as well. And the only way to get to those is removing the media completely. So we are doing that as well. That's sort of a preemptive side. And we have noticed a little bit that our clarity wasn't exactly where we liked it with the pools. We had to backwash, do a couple more maintenance components with Horeb. Yeah, nothing extremely glamorous about that. If you'd like to do a really narrow, confined space entry, this will be the one for you, climbing into the tanks and removing everything. So, yeah, that's what we're looking at for next year. Any questions?

Ten years explains why it's not just an off cost.

Yeah, it's hard to believe that, of course, at all times. So it's over, it's 20, well 2025 was 20 years. Yeah. Over to 2005. 2005, yeah. That's pretty good. That's cool. Yes, sorry. It's been a Monday. The next one we have is related to our bike ped org, and it's wayfinding signage.

So we are working with the engineering department and our consultant, coincidentally on that one, as well as Damon Farber, DF, to finalize the bike pedway finding signage. So that is something, I guess we are in fall already. We'll be looking to bring this fall to park board for final approval. So looking at the amount of signs across the city, both on-street, off-streets, all of the different trails within the parks, the bypass, so different coordination, implementing these over a series of years due to the size of the project, the cost. So this is kind of phase 1.5 of fabrication installation. So we do have some, and excuse me, our current CIP budget that was part of both the design and then kind of I'll call it a nest egg for starting that. We're looking primarily at some of the areas where we're going to make the greatest impact, particularly from the New Berlin Trail Connector through Carroll Campus over to E.B. Shirts and Glacial Drumlin. Um, so looking at a trailhead, possibly two, um, and then some on street signage as well. So we have not gotten to the fabrication point of the signage. So how much we'll be able to get will kind of depend on what, what the final materials, uh, end up being. So we're doing some different alternates with wood posts versus kind of the recycled wood posts that you see with our park ID signs. SO TO KIND OF WEIGH THE LONGEVITY OF THEM VERSUS THE INITIAL START-UP COST. SO YOU'LL SEE THIS PROBABLY IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

EYEBALLING TRAIL HEAD FOR And we don't have a name for it yet. For the sake of a name, we call it the Center City Trail. It basically starts at Barstow right across from Schneider Field and works its way out to connect up with the Burma Trail. So that would be a trailhead. And that would be a great way to start things off.

I saw we had a line for raised grant funding. Was that used on a... on this org previously, or is that funding no longer available?

The RAISE grant is definitely a bike pad, but a totally separate project. That's the overpasses, which the council recently took action on. It's definitely the single most impactful bike pit project probably ever that will happen in this city and many others, is the overpasses as far as improving their modal transportation. I'll put the plug in for the overpasses. And that will help greatly that Center City, the New Berlin Trail, that's where we've had most issues. People trying to cross over that echo, it's not good. All right, any other questions on that one? Moving along, then we go to parking lot lighting and Banting. Banting parking lot is not lit. We've got a lot of use with pickleball and tennis and baseball, and so I know this is something that the Alderman of the District has been very interested in seeing happen, and we're able to We proposed it last year in the budget for 27 and kept it in the budget for 27. So pretty straightforward. I think we're estimating like four poles. If you're familiar with that parking lot, it's not small, it's not big, it's a decent size. And just right. Yeah. So any questions on that one? So it's really a safety concern and it would definitely be a nice upgrade. The next project is, well, we kind of touched on it, but it's related to the Mignola parking lot. It's in a different org. It's in our park lighting org. And that's the companion piece to the Mignola West Avenue parking lot. So we have the paving construction in one org, and we had the lighting in another. That's the way we were set up. Any questions on that? Then we head into aviation, that's our building. Fire alarms, fire suppression. Listen.

Yes, so this is, even though it says, again, essential, yes. Even though the description notes suppression, it is primarily the alarm system. So the suppression with both the dry and the wet sprinkler heads, that is not part of this component. Essentially, it is the smoke alarms, the heat alarms that we have in some areas as well. As you can imagine, the garage, small engine rooms, there's going to be smoke. and exhaust generated for some of those. So we have heat sensors in some areas of the building. And then also what the fire department refers to as horn strobes. So that's the light and the very, very noisy, there's fire in the building, everyone get out. So the building is now, oh, we'll have its 30th birthday next year. So we'll have a little birthday party. So A lot of the components between kind of the 20 year, you start to see some things. So we've been replacing bits and pieces of it, but this would replace all of the pull boxes. So anywhere on the wall or, you know, pull here for the fire alarm, the horn strobes, make sure everything is synchronized, is working. All of the smoke detectors, the heat detectors, and then also the dialer that automatically dials out to our alarm monitoring system and the fire department. So that dialer would be upgraded as well. Currently it runs off of a landline, which our IT department has tried very, very, very hard to eradicate from the city. So it would go to a wireless remote dialer that would be on its own separate system. That, again, is part of our contract with our alarm monitoring company. So looking at $45,000 for those items. So, again, just little maintenance items to get every year.

30 years of the building, has there ever been a fire?

because then I don't think we should really upgrade it at all. No, I'm joking.

I'm trying to think.

We've had... No, I'm joking. Yeah, yeah, no, please.

I'm actually joking, please.

Hey, I'm thinking here.

Well, Eric says...

It's a waste of money.

Cut it. Duly noted in the... I'm sure we've had something. I'm sure. We always have. Taking care of it immediately. By more traditional methods.

The fire department has come through recently. They do annual inspections of all the systems. Most of our horn strobes work, but they're all supposed to be synchronized across the entire building. They are not. So in particularly the lower half of the building, the strobe lights are going off at different times in the same places you can see from various areas, and the horns are going off at different times. And I'm like, well, it's still telling people to get out of the building, which was not the answer that the fire marshal was looking for. So... But the fire department has been helpful with that. And last year we did switch out the dialer at the EB Shirts building. So now we have everything on the same alarm monitoring contract. We had two separate systems just due to the equipment is proprietary for certain monitoring companies. So we are all on the same system now. It's a system that the fire department is very familiar with. Yeah, just really exciting things.

Which leads to the next one. Roof replacement at Union Shirts, which happens to be another 97 building.

Yep.

This is the original.

Yes. So it's definitely time. Yep. So we got...

So it's shiny.

Yes. It's very good years out of the shingled roof. particularly if you're familiar with EV Shirts, the community room there has skylights, which are not always the most forgiving when it comes to roof systems. Those have served us very well. They've been caulked a couple times over the years, so there would be complete resealing of those skylight windows as well, so replacement of the asphalt shingles, complete tear-off if there's any sheathing underneath that needs to be replaced as well. And then replacement to the fascia, soffits, gutters, downspouts, making sure that we're still keeping the water away from the foundation of the building. So the roof shingles are starting to show some age in some of the places. So rather than wait until it starts leaking, we're going to be preemptive on this one.

Okay, that concludes our projects. So any other thoughts, questions on the project piece? And there's kind of a little, the white, in the white section, this is kind of a breakout of the funding. There's a utilized community block grant funds. That line share, that goes toward the playgrounds, playground project effect. I think 100% of it is playgrounds. And then donations, contributions, 200,000. We have there with the, that's the frame project. And then WRO we talked about is the 164, the odd ball number, is associated with Sparksfield. And so you get a snapshot. We got almost about half a million in outside funding to help support these projects.

Okay. Yes. So understanding that this CIP has been vetted and as a state administrator's stamp of approval and understand we want to get all these projects done. If there is pressure to cut the budget by one larger project, I guess what is the lowest part? What is the least critical that we can push off a year or And first, what are the ones that we need to really get done this year to keep other projects on track?

That's a tough question.

I know. It's not a fun one.

Great expression. Well, I guess the first factor is that... Who's your least favorite child? Yeah. It probably, in all honesty... Again, I don't know. When I was talking to some folks, like... probably be the Carroll project. Could we wait another year? Sure. This is when, you know, Carroll's motivated. So there's those kind of factors. I would say from a city standpoint, from our standpoint at least, that if we had a fine $200,000, that would be the one. Because there's, we could go on. But it's, this is an opportunity. We're going to strike when the match is hot. Sparks, we really have to And then the others are pretty much, if we're doing the parking lot and lighting, this is the time to do it. Well, we're tearing apart for the building, so it'll be all one project, really. It's two phases, but one project. So I definitely would keep that in. And then the others are pretty straightforward. Maintenance, roof replacement. The big dollars should see, but Boilers are definitely, yeah. So I would say that. I mean, it's 200 grand. But of the projects, I would say that's the one that has the most flexibility. Okay.

I mean, I'd ask what we could pull in from 28, but I don't think that's where we can get on the table. Well, 28 is supposed to be...

Not a good year there. That's how it's been positioned. So our entire CIP is like a half a million for us. So it's a dramatic, we won't have a lot to talk about next year apparently. So excellent question and do kind of think about that. The projects that we put out there, we put them out there because we feel it's either the timing in the need or it's a combination of, you know, certainly a need. And like roof replacement or 30-year roof shingles is time. Anything over 25, pretty darn good. Okay, thank you. Yep. Now the blue. And Mark Schramm. It's been waiting patiently to talk about, again, these are called IT-related. A lot of keyless cameras, fiber, all the digital, all the stuff I only semi-understand.

Well, thank you, Ron. As you had mentioned, so I have two line items here. It's primarily keyless entries, cameras, fiber internet, things of that nature. So for the first line item, we're looking at some arm mounts for cradle points at Rivers Crossing and Banting and Freedom and Shelters. Ultimately what those are is to install a pool that is no longer working. So that's the first line item that we have here. And the second would be the installation of fiber at Mendiola. So we do not have fiber internet there. And then it would also, so to tack on, it's another phase two to Mendiola. We would be adding eight cameras and 14 keyless entry systems to the new building. so that we are enhancing security, and then also ensuring that only authorized individuals are in the building and retain access, so we're not giving physical keys out to individuals, just fobs. So really looking at trying to improve efficiency and service levels by having keyless entry there. Any questions on the IT items?

I'll just throw a footnote that a big chunk of that item right there is fiber.

Yep, we would have to run fiber from STEM to Mendiola. for us to have internet connection there.

It's a long ways.

Yeah. Is the cemetery a piper? It should. It seems like a shorter trip would be a lot shorter.

I know Mark works close to IT. Yeah. Chris and company. Yeah. So you're hired on IT now. Something I'd have to look into. Yeah, the fiber is just, I mean, that always seems to be the make or break on these systems actually functioning the way you want them to and needs to. Yeah, I know we need to get it out there eventually. Yeah.

Yeah, we do have existing cameras out there, and we don't have fiber internet, and it's not the greatest connection. I'll say that. And then once you start adding POS systems out there as well, and with how many people are trying to pay with credit cards versus carrying cash around with them, we need to have a stable internet connection, or that'll drastically negatively impact sales.

check see cemetery is sometimes kind of uh you might think there's something there but it really isn't there maybe that's a 20 27 or 20 project 27 project or 28 yeah and it may have to do with the size um of the fiber connections too with the way they have the the points across the city um

Because we pretty much follow the lead, whatever IT is suggesting. Correct. The entire connectivity throughout the city.

But I'm intrigued for the answer.

Yeah, on the cemetery? Yeah. Yeah? It's worth checking out. Good suggestion. Any other questions on that? Last but not least, we have nine fleet items. This was, as indicated earlier in the meeting, last Tuesday. And it seemed to go pretty well. A few questions here and there from various folks in attendance. And Melissa? Cargo van.

Alright, so I We'll have to zip through these fairly quickly. So if you have questions, please stop me. A lot of these are replacements kind of like for lack of existing. So cargo van, what we are doing with the new cargo van, as it notes, van 31 is used by our building staff. Van 61 is currently used by the recreation staff. primarily for special events, hauling items to the before and after school sites, playground programs, sports equipment, things like that. So it is definitely a need to the recreation staff, but does not get the usage that we see on the others. So as part of the fleet utilization plan that we implemented, are working on implementing with John Weinkopf, looking at efficient uses and repurposing of fleet where we can. So REC gets a nice, gently used hand-me-down. So they will no longer have the dough skin color cargo van, so they'll have silver, so they'll at least match the rest of the fleet. So and then that's how we rotate fleet items through. So So that cargo, again, will be used primarily by our custodial staff. So it will be outfitted with shelving as well to hold all of the fun custodial items, ladders, extension cords, all of those items. And that one will be a Ford Transit to match the new fleet standards as well.

Any questions? Much more functional for that kind of use. Big improvement.

Another improvement we're looking at is truck number five. If you have your CIP book, the old truck number five is a classic 1990s GMC truck. It was utilized very differently when it was originally purchased and other more efficient methods of I'll say work operations such as tree planting, utilizing trailers, doubling up on trailers and trucks hauling multiple items, as well as dump trucks. This one kind of became almost obsolete in our fleet. So it has low mileage. However, what we're finding is that if we can have multi-tool type of vehicles, so new truck five will have what we call a roll-off. So if you've ever seen a dumpster delivered to your property or seen one delivered with a hook and a winch system, the bed lifts up, dumps off a dumpster. It will also have the flatbed on it as well. We can put railing sides on it so we can utilize it for carrying various equipment materials. We can still utilize it in the 4th of July parade as well. Having those sides is an important safety factor. but then also a water tank, which is primarily what we use it as right now. So having a water tank roll off when we do playground builds, having a roll off dumpster to the site rather than hauling everything back in beds of pickup trucks or having multiple dumpsters out on the site that are contracted with. So just A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT USE OF A SINGLE VEHICLE THAT CAN BE USED ACROSS ALL THREE GROUNDS BUILDINGS FORESTRY STAFF. AND I THINK WILL BE VERY POPULAR. SO TRUCK NUMBER FIVE.

THOSE TRADITIONALLY GO TO AUCTION.

TO OFFSET THE COSTS OF THE BORROW. SO SAME THINGS WITH THE OLD CARGO VAN. THE TAN COLORED ONE WILL GO TO AUCTION. WINE COFFEE UTILIZES A WEBSITE CALLED GOVDEALS. SO TO CUT DOWN ON CONSIGNMENT COSTS. We'll call it. He uploads them to the website himself rather than using a third-party auction company to do that. So that gets us more income then to offset it. And then also govdeals.com is solely government municipal state county sites. And we've had people buy stuff from North Dakota, from Florida, So you'd be surprised where people come for certain pieces of equipment, not just vehicles as well. We still may keep the water tank that's on it and repurpose that in a fashion. The water tank and the pump are only a couple of years old. The next three items, you'll notice we have three little tractors. These, again, where they did not have a bucket, you know, essentially one tractor was the pre-seeder. One tractor was the rototiller. So instead of having attachments and components that could be switched out, they were very much one-trick ponies. So one of them we are looking at replacing with a piece of equipment called a ventrac. Several other municipalities in the area use this. Its primary appeal is the mowing of steep slopes. So it has wider wheelbase so wheels can be added on and a lower center of gravity. So you avoid tipping on those steep slopes or having to hand mow or hand trim some of those hills. A lot of areas in the city, particularly in some of our parks where they're near detention ponds, or where we're trying to maximize our space. Slopes are a little steeper than we would like for larger equipment. So we're very excited about this one. And then this Ventrac also, as well, as we mentioned, also has the option for attachment components. So a ball diamond groomer, so a rototiller, things like that. So we're trying to find something that can be more usage. So if we take For example, this ventrac could be out at WRO. It mows the steep slopes down behind the fire station, and then it also grooms the ball fields. So having something that's multipurpose in that fashion. The next two tractors, I should say, are going to be more traditional in the tractor sense. One will be cabbed. You'd be surprised how chilly it can get in October when you're driving even at 20 miles an hour in a tractor without a cab. So one will be cabbed. That offers us a lot more utilization for forestry mowing, for flail mowing, things like that in the fall and in the spring seasons as well. for rototilling. We're trying to stay up on some of the ball diamond renovations. So where we are scraping the lips of the outfields, the skins, replacing a lot of that. The ground is certainly not frozen in 30, 40 degree weather, but it makes it a little more versatile as well. And then we would have buckets on the front if we need to utilize it for We're moving snow, things of that nature, looking at blowers. So again, trying to make these more versatile, having the different three-point hitches in the hydraulic setups for attachments not only on the rear but also on the front as well. So any questions on the tractors?

Again, within the budget booklet, there's pictures. of the 2027. So if you're curious, take a peek what they're looking at. Do that at your leisure. Anytime you have questions, just let us know.

Yes. And then moving right along, Truck 10, if you've ever seen me out at job sites, that is the maroon little Colorado. It's the app. one in our fleet due to a supply chain issue. So that was prior to me starting here. So she's starting to get some age on her. So again, looking at replacing before there's transmission issues, things like that. Again, relatively low miles comparatively speaking, but there are all hard city miles. So your jumping curbs, things like that. Particularly in the summer, it gets used much more frequently. When we have seasonal staff, we run very, very tight on vehicles. So keeping up on the routine replacement of items of those nature. And it would be replaced, I think, Ford Ranger is what is listed as its replacement. Okay. So Little Red will be going away next year.

Did you request it to be red? The new one.

I have some ideas for how to make the new Little Ten look special. She wants a camel. Aww. I was thinking actually like blaze pink decals. Nice.

Yeah. Only fire departments allowed to have red trucks. Exactly.

So that's why I'll go with pink. No one's chosen pink yet, I don't think. So 74, again, a small pickup truck, Colorado. This one currently has a plow and salter going through various operational changes with snow plowing routes, contracted services. We will not be getting a new plow and salter for this one. We will be retaining the existing plow and salter, but not replacing them. So again, an extended cab is what we look at for these. And the reason is they will haul four, sometimes five seasonal staff, sometimes five full-time staff, depending on where we're going, if we need more bodies to a work site. So a trim crew, you have, you know, two string trimmers, two walk-behind push mowers, someone picking garbage. So that's your four people in a vehicle. You don't want to utilize any more vehicles than you have to going to a job site. SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT, SO KIND OF LIKE FOR LIKE A SMALL EXTENDED CAB COLORADO FOR THAT. 26 IS A MID-SIZED PICKUP TRUCK, SO VERY SIMILAR. THIS ONE HAS A SHORTER BED AND HAS THE EXTENDED CAB. WE'LL BE DOING THE OPPOSITE, BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT THE SHORTER BED, WHEN WE HAVE FULL-TIME STAFF ON CERTAIN TRUCKS, THAT IT IS VERY LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN Um, so we have over time upgraded some of the pickup trucks to one ton trucks, uh, which have the larger beds, uh, that'd be like comparable to like a four or five 50, um, type of truck. So they look like little mini dump trucks. Uh, if you've seen them around town, uh, this one will remain a pickup truck. Um, but because we are keeping with the Colorado's and the extended cab version, Those are more efficient to on mileage. If we do have staffs that go into a conference or something like that, then having an extended cab pickup truck as well. So looking at that would be a replacement fairly like for like on that one. And then last but not least, a forestry chipper. So there's three chippers in our fleet. This one is the smallest chipper. It's called a 1290, which is how you can tell the diameter of a tree you can handle as a 12-inch tree. So why not get something bigger? Bigger is always better, particularly with parks. You'll see a lot of our tractors, a lot of our Colorado's trucks are small to fit into the parks. And the 110 chipper is used by the forestry crew and actually quite a bit of the grounds crew to get onto trails, into parks, into areas that are a little snug. And also the axle weight and the weight of the equipment can jump significantly when you're going upwards in drum sizes and axle weight, even just for a couple inches diameter. preferring to not leave as many ruts in the ground. So if the forestry crew doesn't leave ruts, then the ground crew doesn't have to fix them, and then everyone's happy. So keeping, again, some more smaller, versatile pieces of equipment for us. So that was a real quick fleet run through.

Any questions? No, this summary sheet of all the CIP, we can send that out to you guys, too. That would be the easiest way to keep track I mean, the process is going to go pretty quick. There's a meeting on September 8th. And then council takes action on September 15th. So that's pretty quick. Maybe there's another meeting if necessary. But the last two years, I want to say, it pretty much stayed on this track. So we'll know where things stand in a few weeks, actually. Any other questions?

I have a question on the two small pickup trucks. They appear to be the same truck. Understanding that the plow and salter is coming from the old equipment to the new equipment. Yes. What was the difference in cost?

The difference in cost was essentially that THE ORIGINAL BUDGET INCLUDED REPLACEMENT OF THE PLOW AND SALTER AND THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED. SO IF YOU GO INTO THE BUDGET BOOK, I BELIEVE IT'S STILL IN THE DESCRIPTION IN THERE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PURCHASE.

THANK YOU.

SO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN whether it's administrator, finance director, and the fleet manager. They've talked about if they want to alter that price or if they want to keep that in as kind of a, you know, and then use that to offset possible other fleet projects as well. We try to get estimates as close as we can for some of these, not always going for attachments. So that may go towards... um additional attachments for some of the tractors or for truck five um has been one of the items discussed but yes very good very good note on those thank you other questions okay i'll make a motion to recommend to the city council for approval i'll second okay that's a motion by alderman wells a second by eric hummer any further discussion

We will take that to a vote. All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed? And that passes unanimously. Great. Board president report. We will move on. I do not have anything to report. Nothing out of plan commission affecting parks recently. So we'll move on to director and staff report.

Okay. I will not add anything. So I think... I don't know if Mark wants to... From my perspective... Which Mark? Yes, I'm sorry. Mark Thompson.

I know there are a few things we should... Just a quick update. Summer, we survived it. We had an awesome summer. We wrapped up a very successful summer for youth development. We transitioned a lot of our camps to those indoor facilities with air conditioning. We have record numbers and record revenue that went along with it. We're also really excited to start the new school year tomorrow. So we have officially completed the monopoly, if you will, of before and after school care. So we will be in So Summit View is our new addition this year. With aquatics, we officially wrapped up the season on the 23rd. Aquatics team delivered another safe and successful summer for the community. That is the bottom line. Attendance was unfortunately down starting until like July. But the bottom lines, you know, we're still analyzing the numbers. Buckner actually surpassed our forecasted revenue, but Orem did fall short. So we are looking like we are going to be down overall somewhere between two to four percent in revenue. But for the season that we had, I think financially we performed very well at the pools and we will have that comprehensive report ready for you guys in quarter one next year. Volunteers, community interest in volunteering still is extremely strong. Our Greenway Terrace community build filled 30 minutes after we sent it out. So that was amazing to see how quickly that filled up. And then also with our Remember Our Falling Memorial, we had over 50 community volunteers that came and went. So just big props. entire team. It's not just REC. You know, admin, grounds, buildings, forestry, everybody plays a part in those big community-wide special events that we put on. And it just was a really awesome and special event that we were able to offer for our community. On top of that, we also, in August, we had Tribute Tuesday featuring music from the 90s. We had Sonic 3 for a Monday movie. And, yeah. Moving on to sports, we officially kicked off, pun intended, the soccer season here a couple weeks ago. We have over 110 volunteer coaches that are helping with the program this year, over 70 teams, and we're actually at capacity with our teams. So we have a new recreation supervisor that is gonna be starting with us on Tuesday of next week. His name is Jesse Jeffers. He comes to us most recently as the athletic director for South Milwaukee School District. Another mark? Not another one? No, no. The application gets thrown out. We got enough. But he has lots of real world experience working with kids and did things because they were hard in South Milwaukee, not because they were easy. So I'm very excited about his skill set and what he's going to add to the team. So super excited for him to start. And one of the first initiatives that he is going to have is how soccer leagues. So trying to rework the schedule and optimizing everything for both parking and then also logistics on the day out. So that's what we have going on in REC. Thanks, Mark.

Throw in Jesse's from Tennessee. We'll have some fun with that.

Mark Schramm. Well, for an admin report, since we last saw you guys, the fall activity guide came out, so I wanted to make sure that you all had a copy of that. For our insert, this activity guide, it is the Waukesha Unlocked insert, so a lot going on in October for Waukesha Unlocked. Outside of that, I'll touch a little bit on Beer Garden and this past week. So on Thursday, we presented our draft master plan at the Beer Garden as another pop-up engagement to gain feedback from everyone. So I think it went well. went well, had a good turnout there, beautiful weather on Thursday. So more to come on that once we... Let's get closer to coming over here. Yep, closer to the finale. So make some final adjustments here in the future and then we'll be coming back to you all for approval and then final approval of the Planning Commission.

Are you doing another listening session at what's the other one, Merrill? Merrill Crest.

Yeah. We do not have one scheduled. Yeah, the consulting team feels that really nice job with gathering information and really kicked off in the spring. Yeah. With the tours, there was just the tours alone were three days of touring the city. You got a really good taste of things and all the different various engagements. Plus we had the other plans that are going on, so there's cross-pollination with that. So we've been really, really happy with that. Very detailed and thorough. So it's been a real plus. But I'm sure there will be more changes coming. All right.

All right.

Short and sweet from you. Thank you. Thanks, Mark. So that concludes our report.

Well, without any further discussion, we are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.

Well, thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Sarah. Thanks, Sarah.