Landmarks Commission - Regular Meeting

Okay. Good evening. Today is what day is it today? Let me get my glasses on. Today is Wednesday, 08/06/2025. I'd like to call the order, call to order the meeting for the city of Waukesha Landmarks Commission, and I'd like to start with roll call. Marty, if you could set us off, please.

Marty Larson.

Linda Gordo. Oh, Andrea Dorontas. Carmen Delapaz.

Matt Ratzak. Tony Lonza.

Perfect. And we're gonna move on to opening up for any public comment. No public comment going once, going twice, three times. Moving on to election of a new chair and vice chair. Possible election of a new chair and vice chair. So I just would like to open it up with any comments, thoughts, and we can take it from there.

And I guess just real quick, I did check the ordinance, since the last meeting. There's actually nothing in the ordinance that that covers a chair, vice chair

Time frame, anything.

Any, yeah, any terms, any procedures. So it's really up to you guys. Technically, you don't have to have a chair. I would strongly recommend that you do. I believe the Landmark Commission always has. The Vice Chair, Jeff actually thought that years years ago in the past that they didn't have one. And obviously, we've gone close to a year without one. And there have been a few meetings where Carmen has not been here that Landmark's mission has just picked somebody that was willing to do it. So you don't necessarily have to have a vice chair if you don't want to, but if you do want to, that's also entirely up to all of you.

Sounds good. Well, Marty, you brought it up last month, so why don't you kick it off?

I nominate Carmen to be the chair of the Landmarks Commission for as long as she wants the job.

I would is that a motion?

I motion. Okay. I should say I motion.

I would second that motion.

God, you guys didn't even give me a chance to talk.

You have

no say in this No,

right? No. Like seriously, I I I'm here because I love Waukesha. And I think that's why we're all here. We've had challenging times. We've had neat times. I've had really wonderful experiences bonding with everybody. I do think it's wonderful to have different perspectives. And from the first time that I took this position, I said this is a cooperative and I invite feedback and information and get me on the straight and narrow. And for those of you who don't know, I've had a stroke and so sometimes I lapse with memory stuff and that's being fully transparent.

I am here to serve a city that I love. This is completely volunteer and, you know, I would be pleased to continue, but I'm also happy to give somebody else another opportunity, really sincerely. Shall we vote?

Sure, that's a great idea.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

I accept. Thank you. Okay. So moving on to approval of minutes for 07/09/2025. I'm looking for a motion for approval. Linda was great at looking at our minutes the last time. Did we have anything blaring this time?

No. And I wanna thank everybody for stepping up and making those adjustments that I asked for because as a clerk and trying to look for information in historical minutes and historic agendas, it's really difficult. So I appreciate that from a clerk standpoint that those small tweaks were made. So I make a motion to approve the minutes from July 9.

I'll second that. And I just wanna just say that I'm so grateful that you are part of the commission because we need you. We need that oversight.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Moving on to the Landmarks Commission Paint and Repair Grant Funds. Report on Paint and Repair Grant Funds, twenty five-eighteen seventeen. Charlie will fill us in.

All right. So as you might have noticed, we did have just basically this screen and the list, which is the next slide of all the paint and repair grant funds. I did add that as an attachment, so that is on the agenda. As a reminder, the Landmark Commission approves paint repair grants of typically 15% of the cost of a project on an increasing scale up to a maximum of $3,000 may use let And me ask permission, they may use discretion to change award amounts based on project scope, overall impact, fund availability and any other circumstances. The paint and repair grant funds for 2025 that was approved is $25,000 It is, as of this point, still expected.

It's we have confirmed that, that is the amount that we're going to get. But the county has not received the full contracts from the federal government. Apparently, they're changing some of the wording and conditions and things like that. They are expecting that soon. But and they have told us that we can allocate grant money, but it won't be able to be for projects that are completed, we do have to wait until we get the final contracts before we do before we can actually give the money to people.

So we expected this to be done months ago and most years it's done in March. But as of right now, it still hasn't been completed. We do have $350 leftover from one twenty twenty four project that has not been completed. Earlier this spring, the recipient for that grant expected it to be done. I have not heard from them and haven't gotten a chance to follow-up on that in the last couple of months.

The $12,641 has been approved, which leaves $12,359 available. And all approvals have to be conditional on approval from the state of

Florida. Perfect.

Thank you. Okay. Moving on to old business, Item number twenty five-nine eighty one Landmarks Commission Paint and Repair Grant for 305 McCall Street. Review a request for a grant for a previously approved roof repair work, and this is the McCall Street Historic District. Just for legislative history, we held the decision, it was to have a representative here. Right, Charlie? Yep. Perfect. Go for it.

Alright. So this is 305 McCall Street. It's on the South Side Of McCall, right in between Charles Street and James Street in the McCall Street Historic District. And it is the Margaret Breeze Vincent and George Vincent House, which was built in 1895 and has Queen Anne style architecture. And as you can see, it has the existing roof as architectural shingles with slide shadow line, so it would comply with the standards.

So they're just a few different views. This is from the rear. They had had some water damage, specifically in the area of the chimney. So the application was to approve or was to replace the flashing around the chimney. So there's you can see the damage on the inside. And then also to add a Serricade treatment to the roof that has been it was completed earlier this week. So this is a photo from today. From the back of the house, as you can see, it has changed the color a little bit. It's now brown. It's actually less of dimension, less of a shadow line.

So it looks like the appearance is actually is closer to what the standards would be trying to achieve even than what it was before. So again, this is the previous appearance, and that's what it had been changed to. So again, it's a Seracade application, which is intended to extend the life of the roof by preventing leaks and by adding a little more durability. And that was approved on June 5. And paint repair grant was not approved because the applicant wasn't able to be here.

But the total estimated cost of the project is $11,919 and 15% of that would be $17.88 dollars

Perfect. Thank you. Do we have the homeowner here? Hi. Do you mind stepping up to the microphone please? Stating your name and your address and that's just for the record of the agenda. Thank you and welcome. Caroline

Coates. I own 305 McCall Street.

Do you have anything to add to what Charlie's already shared with us?

I'm glad it's done. There's no leaking going on now. The crew is great. So I do like the way that it looks now compared to what it what it did, but the I like the more solid color. But I like the fact that I didn't have to change or make anything newer, so to speak. I I don't like it's like I don't wanna just try and keep everything as original as possible. So to be able to protect it, that meant a lot to me.

To us too. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions? No? I'm looking for a motion on this. Does anybody have any thoughts, ideas, suggestions of percentages?

I know this was kind of a new proposal. You know, we haven't seen anything like this before. Or at least my time here, you know, see a tear off and reroof all the time. And and, you know, painting, siding, and trim, you know, not painting a roof. So I'm a little unsure of Right. You know, does this qualify for kind of that full percentage that we would usually follow or not. I that's all I have. I'm unsure.

I think, a, I I'm happy that you wanna keep protecting your home. It was the smart thing to do. If you're saying that there's water, it's been waterproof, that's a huge thing. I'm happy to suggest a 10% grant to help facilitate. But because of the reasons that Matt has stated that it wasn't a full tear off. But I want to acknowledge your efforts and I want to support your efforts.

Thank you.

Yeah. So I'm looking for or should I just make a motion? Does anybody else have anything to say? Cool? Alright. So I, I make a motion to approve a grant for, let's just say $2,000. No. Not what is what is 10% of 11? No. What's her what's her

We're

gonna go $1,200. Thank you for doing the math for me, kids. That went with everything else. But anyway, so I would like to suggest a paint repair grant for $1,200 for the roof repair. Looking for a second.

Yeah. I'd second that.

Whenever you're ready, Maria.

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

There you go. Thank you so much for joining us. It's always nice to have the homeowner here when we're making decisions about money. I appreciate you being here.

I'm I've been I tried. So tonight, I was like and my car's making noise, so it's like I'm still gonna get there.

Yeah. Well, hopefully, we made it a little worth your while. Thank you so much. Thank you. Take care. So we're moving on to new business. Item 25Dash1723 Landmarks Commission certificate of appropriateness for 325 East Newhall Avenue. We're gonna review a request to repair damaged soffit and replace a damaged storm window. This is the Caples Park Historic District.

Alright. 325 East Newhall is on South Side Of Newhall Avenue between Hartwell Avenue and Charles Street, and it's in the Caples Park Historic District. It is the Lloyd Bauer House. It was built in 1928 and has English revival style architecture. And you might remember last year, they had a sort of appropriateness for removing for replacing the roof and also for placing railings on a second story porch.

There's some water damage that they found in one of the corners on the front side of the house, which they believe was caused by the the previous roof or was was the result of leaks that roof that basically, the leaks have been solved. They don't expect more water damage to be happening, but they repair the damage now. So the damage is specifically to a soffit on the corner, and they would like to basically remove the damaged wood and replace it with epoxy that will here in some structural integrity of the wood. And then photo of of that section so that most like the wood replacement will be minimal, and it'll be just specific specifically limited to where there's rot. And then the storm windows on a on a picture of the storm that is is protecting the picture window in that section also has some significant damage placed as well.

So here's a couple of close ups of the window itself. You can see the storm over the That is not an original. That's actually a plexiglass window. So that that they would like to place remove that and replace the the structure around the wood the wood structure around the storm window. New wood and then the storm window in.

The new window will be will be a koya wood. This is you might where there was a we had a presentation from from Craftsman on their restoration process. They are the contractor on this project, so they'll be using foyer wood for the frame of the window, which is a stronger wood that's been treated to be more rot resistant than regular wood. It will not be the this is just an example. It won't be exactly like this, but that'll be designed to match the original appearance of of the stone.

So, again, the damaged sections of soffit and repairing the damaged window opening and then replacing the stone window.

Great. Do we have the homeowner over here for this? Hi. Welcome. If you could state your name and your address, please.

Nick Gorgiasani. 325 East Newhall Avenue.

Alexandria Gorgiasani, also the same property. Fabulous. Love your house. Thanks.

It's a good one. Mhmm. I like it. Do you have anything that you'd like to add to what Charlie has shared with us today?

I don't think so. I think I think that pretty much covers it. Yeah. We we've already since the the water intrusion is fixed now, we're just kinda we wanna take care of some of the damage that was caused by it. And the plexiglass that was put in there kind of seemed like a it didn't seem like a real solution anyway. So it'll be nice to have an actual, like, storm window in there instead of that. And it'll hopefully look a little bit nicer as well. And then the soffit damage is just there's a hole in the soffit and we wanna make sure there's no critters or anything getting in there.

Perfect. Does anybody else have any questions? I'm sorry.

I have something to add about the roof approval. Update for you. The shingles that were approved last year were not approved by the Wisconsin Historical Society. So maybe reexamining and seeing if anything needs to be changed with the process to make sure that you guys are approving the same

things. Okay.

That's all.

Did they say why?

I'll have to look back in my emails, but they just said it, I think it was maybe too much of a shadow, I think was the reason. But I can take a look again and I can Charlie can I email you about it? Absolutely. Cool.

Yeah, we'd love to know. I mean we wanna be on the straight and narrow and we don't wanna steer the wrong way. You know we make decisions based on what we know. So if you can give that information to Charlie and he'll pass that along to us that would be really great.

Definitely.

Thank you. Does anybody have any questions?

I do have a question. It looks like the small teeny tiny little section of roof right above the window that you're replacing the storm doesn't have a gutter on it. Is they tell you that's probably where the water's coming from that damaged that window?

So we we did we had someone come out to take a look at well, when they did the roof, they did they did take a look at that, and they they didn't mention anything about it. But we had someone come and give us an estimate on the gutters to prepare for potential future work at some point because there there are some other issues with the gutters that that we've noticed. So that is something that if we in the future whenever we when we get the gutters done, that's probably something we would have them address at that time.

Yeah. Because it looks like with this I noticed that. Slope of your roof that the gutter that you have right above it might overflow onto the part that has no gutter and then come down and hit your window.

Yeah. Yeah. That was was something that I I kinda noticed as well. So that that probably will be something we'll be doing in the somewhat near future. Yeah. Probably probably sometime in the spring or something.

Good call.

Yeah, I saw the same thing but I'm just thinking temporarily maybe a kick flashing something so that it doesn't run right onto the brick. Yeah. Funnels it away from the house a little bit until

you do. That could be.

Alright. Maybe we see you next month for another

thing then.

Honestly, if you're gonna fix the window, you wanna take care of that at the same time because even a year of downpour could do damage to what you're installing. Yeah.

Yeah. I can

I mean, we we do have a quote for the gutters? It's just something that we're kind of, you know, we've we've had to we've we've had a we just had to put a furnace in recently too. So we've kind of been trying to

Trust me, we all understand budgeting and timelines. We're here just to recommend. And you've come to address one specific thing. This is just commission courtesy to kind of make you aware, which is huge. And it's to your benefit.

Yeah. That is helpful. But yeah. So that's something that we planning on doing eventually. Maybe we will kind of move that up the priority list.

Maybe even just that little section.

Yeah. Yeah.

There's like little guards that you can put that when it comes this way it will funnel it that way off the little

side line. Looks like we have one of those little guards on the the top portion of the roof. It doesn't go the full length of the roof line. But so are you saying to add it to the bottom portion of the roof

as

well then?

Okay. Okay. Mhmm.

Just until you guys get to the full phase of the gutters, that would be a nice Yep. Excuse me. Anybody else have any comments, questions?

So then are they replacing the entire sill and providing a new

They're going to repair to the best that they can. So they once they get in there, they're gonna have they're gonna have to see exact the exact extent of the rot. But they're going to do their best to repair to the extent that it's possible. And then if there are parts of that that need to be replaced that they find once they are in there working, then they would

It would need to be replaced.

So So then is that $16.50 quoted? Is that just to rebuild out the storm, and then it's a $100 an hour to replace the rotten wood?

Yeah. I think the the estimated they had so the the quote for the 1,600 was for yeah. That was for the building the storm window and then, like, the the labor for just installing the storm window. The repair yeah. I think they I think it was on the estimate. I I can't recall off the top of my head exactly what the estimated hours of labor was, but they they did give us

because then

I saw the soffit has a minimum 1,500 just to replace that section.

Yep.

I would maybe ask them to roll that repair of rod into that 1,500 minimum because I can't imagine it's gonna take ten hours to replace that little soffit. Otherwise, get a second estimate.

Yeah. Yeah. No. That's a great recommendation.

Mhmm.

For sure. Sure.

Just as a reminder that the unfortunately, the Caples Park Historic District is not.

Is there is there a reason for that or what?

It it's a federal it's a federal grant that we get, you know, we the city gets a certain amount of CDBG money and it has to go to the low to moderate income census. Gotcha. Okay. So, it's it's not based on the individual homeowners income or anything like that. It's just the way the census divides up the neighborhoods.

That makes sense. Okay.

Cool. So I'm looking for a motion on this one, if anybody wants to share one.

I'll make a motion.

Great.

I would make a motion to approve 25Dash01723 as proposed for a certificate of appropriateness.

Do I have a second?

I'll second.

Thank you.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye.

There you go. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you.

Get us that information. I'm dying to know. Yeah. Like seriously.

It's so stressful.

Tell me about it.

Thank you.

Alright. Take care. Thank you. You guys are doing a great job. Don't let the stress get to you. Okay. Moving on to 25Dash01721, Landmarks Commission Certificate of Appropriateness for 211WestLaughlinAvenue. We're gonna review a request to replace the roof and add solar panels. This is the Laughlin Avenue Historic District.

Alright. That's two of them West Laughlin Avenue. It's on the South Side of Laughlin Avenue, just to to the two houses in from Garfield Avenue Historic District. And it is the William Munkel House. It was built in nineteen o five and has Queen Anne style architecture.

And the avenue would like to replace the roof. So you can see the front end of there, and he'd like to add solar panels to the second story rear portion of the roof. So the the placement shingles, this is what what he's provided. They'll be Atlas Pinnacle Impact shingles. He did not provide a specific color, but I believe it was close to either the or the computer color.

So this is just the the shingle selections and the neck. Similar style. The Atlas Pinnacle impact shingles are have been approved on. Houses, but they do meet the standard shingle with the slight shadow line. So this is the the solar array that he's proposing.

It would be just a number of shingles on that second story rear roof slope. And that is the recommendation. We've had solar panels once or twice on historic houses before. And the recommendation from from the state is that they should be on a roof slope that is rear facing that's not ideally not visible on the street. So, again, this is the the backside of the house facing south.

It would be the upper the upper level. So the above trees, and this is from the alley, so there's no visibility. Visibility. Cost estimate for the roof replacement is $9,000. So replacing the roof at Atlas Pinnacle impact shingles, whether wood or similar color, and then adding new solar panels to the rear second story roof slope. And they will need to get a residential solar installation.

Great. Thank you, Charlie.

Hi. Hi. If you could

state your name and your address, please.

Michael Carpenter, two eleven West Laughlin Avenue.

Thank you and welcome.

Thank you.

Is there anything else that you'd like to add that Charlie has stated in addition to?

We did pick the pewter. So pewter color.

I've got. That's

Great. I'm just curious what's make just this has nothing to do with the I'm curious why you wanna do solar. I

just think it's a a good idea today. You know?

I'm all for it.

It's an attempt at being green.

Yeah. No, I'm all for it. I'm always curious. Some people are like no and some people are like yeah. And so I just

Yeah.

It's a

fourteen year payback, which is a little onerous, but

I just

want to do it.

That's wonderful. Well, thank you. Does anybody else have any questions? Comments?

I guess question, since it it is a side roof, it looks like, versus a very back? It's a rear

It's a

side rear roof the alley.

Okay. I'm looking at this and I'm looking at another house. But or is that

think that's his garage.

So that's the

so it's It's his garage.

Yeah. My garage is on the right right side there.

Okay. Alright. So yeah. So if you're on the sides from the front, you wouldn't see. I was just wondering what the how far off the roof of the panels were gonna be. You know? They're you know, six inches, 12 inches.

Believe it's

Very middle? Two or three inches, maybe four at the most, off the roof. Off the roof.

I think it was on McCall Street. We had some panels come before us. And the original proposal was the sides, the front, they're all over the place.

Right.

And we sent it back and they revised it just to the rear, which was approved.

Exactly. Anybody have any other questions? And if not, I'm looking for a motion.

Motion to approve the certificate of appropriateness for the replacement of the roof and the solar panels with the additional caveat that they have to get the permit on the solar panels.

I'll second that. Yep.

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye. Well, part's approved. We're gonna move on to the Landmarks Commission and Paint Repair. You may sit down and be comfortable.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. The Landmarks Commission and Paint and Repair grant for 211 West Laughlin Avenue, Item 25 Dash 01722.

Alright. So as you can see, the estimate for the the roof replacement is $9,850. They did not include the solar panel installation estimate. I normally would recommend that they do include everything, and then it would be up to to decide whether to whether that's appropriate or a smaller amount. But in this case, they don't expect that the installation will be able to be done. So so they just include it.

Great.

And then 15% of that cost is 1,000.

Thoughts, comments? Marty?

And I'm going to do a motion to approve a paint repair grant for $14.77 for item number 25Dash01722.

I'll get a second please.

I'll second that.

Yes.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

There you go. Thank you so much. Thank you. Moving on to item 2501724. Landmarks Commission certificate of appropriateness for 215 West Laughlin Avenue. Review a request to replace the garage roof. No. We already did that one. Right? Or this another one?

Nope. This is the next

door neighbor. The next door neighbor. Fabulous. I love how you guys are working in tandem. I'm so sorry. I thought I was like having like deja vu or something, you know? Okay. Let's start again. 250-1724. Landmarks commission certificate of appropriateness for 215 West Laughlin Avenue. Review a request to replace the garage roof and add solar panels to the garage. This is the Laughlin Avenue Historic District.

Alright. So this is 215 West Laughlin Avenue. It's in the South Side Of Laughlin. Immediately next to 211 which we just saw. And this is the oh, it does not have a historic name.

We could never find it.

Built in 1900 and has Queen Anne style architecture.

1895.

1890

the application in this in this case is to replace just the roof of the garage. The garage was built in 1929, so it's considered to be non non contributing in

was store district. Built in 2001.

Oh. Sorry. There was a garage

that was built

in 1929, which would have been non this one.

It's built in Which was a horse carriage. I mean, like a little horse barn. But we made it look like a carriage house

Yes.

With the property.

So in this case, the the roof would be the Atlas Castlebrook shingles, which do have a more significant shadow line than the the pinnacle. But in this case, the color is black shadow, which shadow line is is black, so it it really doesn't stand out. And the again, this is just the the garage roof that's being replaced, but the applicant would like some feedback on whether it would be appropriate to use this this style for the the house itself when when she gets to that future. And then it would be installing solar panels. I've just done, I believe, the east side of the roof.

West side.

Oh, west side of the roof. So one one side fully

covered. You So don't even see them from the house. It's only it just faces the alley. And the side of the alley.

The garage is completely. So the estimate in this case is $4,200 for just the roof replacements. This is the that they don't expect to be able to replace the shingles this year. So replacing the garage roof, the shingles will be s Atlas, Castlebrook, Black Shadow, and then installing solar panels on West, not East.

Great. Does anybody have any questions?

Well, we have the shadow line situation but it's kind of masked by the color. Does the state still recognize that? And that would be my question.

So technically, The Grudge isn't historical so I don't know.

I know. But if you wanna put it on the house though, that Right. That's why

I would like to an answer to that.

Right.

Because the house is even the roof is older than the garage, and so I know it's coming up. Right.

My guess is the state would not approve the preservation tax credits for it. But they do say that you don't necessarily have to have the same standards. Know, they can be a little bit stricter with the tax credits because if they don't approve it, the consequence is just, you know, money.

Uh-huh. Good.

So, it's really up to you whether you feel that that, you know, whether you feel that that would be an appropriate color or style. Whether it meets the landmark submissions.

Matt, what do you think?

I would I mean, agree with what Marty said. You look at any other choice that shadows too deep and too heavy, but on the black selection, it just goes away. It's masked. You have a picture of the house again, Charlie.

It's not a very good one.

Well, that's about as good as it gets from the street.

Mean, question And this I know we don't approve colors, but does that want a black roof someday?

It is black now. Mean, it is on the darker black side.

Okay.

I mean,

it's probably a little bit warm.

It's really tall and mingle.

It might have a little mildew

on it.

But other than that, yeah, it is a dark. It's not

Yeah. I would imagine you'd wanna match the house when it's time to do the house with whatever's

on the garage.

Well, I'm not that concerned about matching the two. You don't really see them because the house, I mean they don't really go together. I mean, you don't really when you look at it, the roof lines are like this, so you're not really gonna see them.

Yeah. Well, that George But

I would like to get the white shingles when it comes to that.

When you do your house, are you gonna wanna deal with a tax credit, a historical tax credit? Because that's the bigger question.

Right. Yeah. I probably would because that's gonna be really expensive. Right.

There are

a lot of hips and valleys.

So that's where you need to really do the due diligence on that. Because we could say, yeah, go for it. Knock And yourself then we can't help you once you go to do your house to get the tax credit.

So your recommendation is the Atlas Pinnacle. Right?

That has been approved. Would say recommendation would be to apply for the tax credits before the certificate of appropriateness. Okay. If you wanna get the tax credits. Okay. Make sure you get them.

So plan it way far ahead. Right. Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Yeah. So so the question goes back to do you wanna tie them together or do you not care and just you wanna go ahead with the roof? And then you'll do the due diligence on the

back. Yeah.

With the garage.

Yeah. Because yeah. They're working on the solar panel stuff. Okay. So Great. No worries. Because it is solar panel to follow. You know Right. After Right. But with a 25 old roof, we decided it was best to replace it before the panels go on.

Right. Exactly. Yeah. No. That's smart. I just wanna make sure you're clear of the order so that you don't get backed up into decision that that might jeopardize a tax credit. Hey, money's money. Right?

Yep. It is. For sure.

Yeah. So it's just I'd go through the proper channels before you move to the next step.

Okay. Yeah. Well, the house roof is a ways away too, but that's it's good to know. Thank you.

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Does anybody else have any questions or comments?

Is there with the solar being on the roof and on the garage, is there any issue with them? Is there gonna be added cost for you to run it from the credit standpoint for having the solar towards your house? Is there something that will feed into the house? Because I thought solar on the roof of the house then kind of help

Well, will be for the entire house and the garage. We it we have a because we have an electric car. So we have a panel in our garage that they will be able to hook up to. So as far as they know right now, they took all their pictures and you know, looked at it all and said they would be able to hook into that. So there aren't gonna be any wires like from the garage, the house

or

you know, there's nothing gonna be in the air and I will make them bury it if they had to anyway.

And then I think those black panels married the best to that black roof. Yeah. I mean, that seems like that whole West Side is almost completely covered.

Right. It is it is like Black. Mean, there's only like maybe a foot at the most around the edges. So it's really gonna like cover it

up. Yeah. Okay.

Any other questions? Looking for a motion.

I motion to approve the COA. Just wanna make sure I get the right one here. Garage roof. Yep. 2501724. Mhmm. As stated, roof and shingle choice along with the solar panels.

I'll second that.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye. Great. You're approved. Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Okay. So we're gonna move on to item number 25Dash01725 Landmarks Commission Paint and Repair Grant for 215 West Laughlin Avenue.

All right. So again, this is just for the roof replacement and cost estimate is $4,200 So 15% of that would be $630

Great.

Does anybody want to make a motion?

I have a comment. Yes. In the sense that

Yes.

Since this is

well, do we want to do 15% on a non contributing building?

It's up for discussion.

Okay. So I'm just throwing it out there for discussion.

Thoughts? That was my question. Don't know what has been done in the past for a new 20 year old garage if you typically

Usually lower the percentage, right Marty?

Because it's part of the property, right?

That's yeah, we normally lower the percentage. We don't get

the maximum percentage. We could do a 10%. So I'm looking for a motion.

I make motion to approve the paint and repair grant for the 10% seeing that it is not the primary residence just the accessory Building

420 Dollars. Yep. Great. I'll second that.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye. You're approved. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. A pleasure. I love your smile. I can feel your energy. It's awesome. Thank you. Seriously. Okay. We're moving on to the Alderman's report. There's no Alderman here. So there's no report. Moving on to the Springs report.

I don't have anything.

Alright. How about communications and publications?

The only thing that I have is just, again, the Wisconsin Local History and Historic Preservation Conference is October, and that's in Wisconsin Dells. If if you are interested, I think there's an early bird registration that ends sometime in August. So just let me know, and the city can pay for your your registration.

Perfect. This meeting is adjourned, but I do wanna share something with you guys on a personal note. My TV show on Roku, the Spanish version of Ask This Old House, has been nominated for a daytime Emmy for best instructional and how to program. Congratulations. So I'm very excited. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Thank you. So it's just not something just fun to share. October 17 in LA, and I'm on a diet so that I could be on that red carpet.

Gotta buy more I cream, gotta buy more cream. Seriously, thank you everybody. This meeting is adjourned.