City Council - Regular Meeting

call to order for a Watertown City Council meeting for January 5th of 20126. Please rise while Hank Roso, the chaplain for Watertown Fire Rescue, leads us in prayer. Thank you for joining me in prayer. Our heavenly father, we thank you for this uh time together. I thank you for each one here that shares that common bond of a love and care for our community. God, we thank you for wisdom and understanding and insight, those good gifts that you desire for us to have. God, we thank you for unity. Lord, we don't always see eye to eye, but we stand shoulder-to-shoulder for a common purpose. We ask your hand upon this meeting and bless each one. We thank you for the gifts of our fire service and first responders, the police officers that keep us safe and each one of these city services we often take for granted this last year and this coming year ahead. We thank you for all these things in Jesus mighty name we pray. Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Finance officer Bob Zen please call the role. Okay. Shy here. Allan here. Hyer absent. No he is here. Oh, never mind. He's online. Got it. Here we are. Helen here. Mormon here. Jiren here. Peters here. Thank you. Quorum is established. Chair will ask if there's any conflict of interest. Hearing none. Mo, I will ask for a motion to approve tonight's agenda.

Motion made by Councilman Allen, seconded by Councilman Peters. All those in favor of approving the agenda, please say I. I. Any oppose, say nay. Motion carries. We are on to open forum. If there's anyone who would like to address the council on something tonight, please come forward. We have our good friend and former colleague here in these chambers. Former councilman, current state senator Glenn Vilhower.

Oh, thanks for the kind introduction, Mayor. Um, unless you've been living under a rock, you probably know that next week, uh, the legislative session, the 101st legislative session kicks off. And it's going to be an interesting one. No doubt about that. But I just wanted to let it be known that, hey, uh, as representative or senator from this district, uh, I'm there to listen to what people around here have to say. Um, and believe me, we take those seriously. You know, Reed, as you know, in the course of a session, I probably got 2,000 emails last year during the course of those those nine 10 weeks that we were out there and I try to respond in some fashion just to say, "Okay, noted or thank you, whatever." But it's those that come from people back here in this part of the state or this, especially in Watertown, that I take seriously. Uh, so if you've got an issue that, you know, we get probably 5 to 600 bills, I'm guessing this time this this year, we obviously can't get a chance to digest and become experts on on awful lot of those. So, we have to rely upon people that know what these bills are about. You know, the lobbyists out there do an important job, but it's also constituents back home that we rely upon. So, if you reach out to me, I'm going to pay special attention to uh your your communication versus uh somebody from, you know, Buffalo or Hot Springs or whatever. Uh so, don't hesitate to reach out. And that includes even while we're sitting there in the floor uh floor debating a bill. I think people look at us and we're on our cell phones and think that we're not paying any attention to what's going on. Well, that couldn't be further from the truth. we're probably communicating with someone back home that's got a, you know, a stake in the bill that we're debating and I want to know what they have to say. So, if you see me on my phone, you'll see a lot of legislators on their phone. Uh, don't think that we're not paying attention. Couldn't be further from the truth. So, anyway, look forward to representing and serving uh the people from district 5 again. Uh, and again, don't hesitate to reach out and I'll do the best I can and listen is

is what I can promise and and uh see how the chips fall after that. Thank you. Thank you. I know it's a long time away and a lot of work while you're out there. So, keep doing a great job representing District 5. Okay. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to address Actually,

forgot one more thing. I'm sorry. Um, recently this body passed uh uh an ordinance dealing with THC uh restricting use of that. there. I've got a bill put together uh working with the legislative research council out in Pier. Uh I got a bill ready to drop. Uh I've got a I got a prime already on the house side. I'll be priming the senate side. So it it's patterned very closely after what you folks here in Watertown. And now it's interesting is the attorney general is also getting involved in some of some of these same issues. So, I'm not quite sure if he might have legislation that somehow conflicts or how that'll work with the bill that I'm proposing. But anyway, I'm going to I'm going to try to get that through and I think it shouldn't be too much of a battle. But anyway, I just want to let you know that I that I do have a bill that's ready to uh be be dropped and presented then. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Is there anyone else who would like to address the council on something tonight? I'll close open forum and we'll go into item 10A, an approval of a bid award for project 2528, Stokes Thomas Lake City Park drainage to Level Contracting LLC in the amount of $79,000 roughly. We'll go to our city engineer, Justin Peterson, for more information.

Thank you, mayor. Um, you see on the screen the red circle there, that's the city park. There are uh 22 um campsites in that area and during wet years those spots tend to not be usable. So this project is uh trying to help solve that issue. It's a install drain tile. Um we received nine bids and low bid. It was from level contracting for some $9,000. And uh Dusty's here also answer some questions. So, we'll stand by.

Thank you. Can I get a motion to approve? And I actually do think I have a question for park and rec director Rodic, but I can wait until after I take a motion first. Uh, unless you wanted to add something before I So, can I get a motion to approve the bid award? Made by Councilman Mormon, seconded by Councilman Shuy. Let's open it up for questions, comments. I'm going to start. Uh, Director Rodic, thank you for being here tonight. I would just like to tell the public a little bit more about I know that this is something that I think it was very early on when you came to Watertown you saw this as a problem and you had been looking into addressing this because we're losing a lot of campsites. So a lot of a lot of families are losing the opportunity to enjoy our lake and then conver also we're losing a lot of potential revenue. Could you explain a little bit more for the public?

Correct. Okay. I want to make sure this thing was on. Um, yeah, it's it's interesting you mentioned that because I just happened to uh earlier in the season when we were Justin and I were talking about this, I pulled up an email that I had sent to him and for example in 2025 uh those 22 sites were closed for 90 days. Um, so again there there's a loss of the recreational opportunity, but from a financial side of things, a site cost is $30 per night. $30 per night times 90 days times 22 sites is $59,000 um at full occupancy. If we can have a project like this that will reduce that downtime by even half um you know that's still 20 $29,700 you know of potential revenue gained. Let's be realistic. you know, we're not going to have 100% occupancy during that time, but even take that to a reasonable 50% occupancy, we're looking to, you know, realize 14,850 back. So, even if, you know, this project with some potential change orders came in at $120,000, we're looking at a break even of 8.1 years.

Thank you. Yep. And uh just for anybody who might have a question, so the water will be going across the street, so across South Lake Drive into an area that is largely already wet. Um the or where is it?

Actually, the the drain tile system will drain to, you know, a central pipe that will be collected at a sump uh area near the seaw wall area. And then in when the when the lake level is low, you know, let's say we have a large rain event and the the lake can take it, it can drain out of the bottom of that sump, you know, manually. Or if we have a situation where the lake level is high and we're still high, but we have still have capacity in the lake, we can because if you noticed, we're constantly pumping different areas. It will give a central area for that water to accumulate. And you could use a single pump to pump it into the lake. So instead of chasing pumps all over and everything else, it will drain to a central area. All right. Thank you, council. Any more questions? Councilman Allen. Uh yeah, Dusty, I I'm uh I think Mayor Holene said, you know, initially, well, it was going to go east across the road and it's not doing that. Um and is that because that that water table, I mean, you couldn't really pump anything into that the water table there, I assume, impacts all the all of that camp area that we're talking about draining. Is that correct?

It does. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Jurns. I'm a little confused on the numbers on the break even versus our cost versus potential loss revenue. You go through that number again. Okay. I I I got confused at 8.1 years. Okay. Um, let's And again, I was just using a, you know, the the contract is for what 79 something like that.

And you lost you lost how much in 2025 alone? So again, um, in 2025, if you assumed all 90 days were, you know, usable and 100% occupancy, that was $59,400. Um, again, being more realistic, you're not going to have 100% occupancy. And again, I was looking at those 90 days. If we can reduce that downtime by 50%, that's 45 days. So that's half of that 594. Yeah.

Um which gets us at 297. That's at full occupancy. So take 50% occupancy. That gets us to the 14850. Okay. Um I dug into it. Some are we raising those up also? Are we raising are we raising the uh the sites? Yeah,

we have not. I mean, I think they they may have been there's some material that's been added to them in the past, but this is specifically tonight is a drainage system. I have the privilege to driving by there a ton because I just love to take that way home. They're not only in R. I mean, rain events. I mean, there's they're always closed. Um, did we look at the cost of raising these sites or we're just draining water? And and I I don't want to answer for you, but I remember several summers ago when this was first brought up, part of the problem is you would have to raise the entire site, not just the site of where the camper is, because then people have their lawn chairs out and they want to fire and so you'd have to raise the entire area, I think, was part of the issue at the time. But

correct, Councilman Peters, you had something you wanted to add. Well, just a clarification. So, if we're draining it, are they going to flood as much? I'm assuming what you're saying is it's going to fix a problem or not. Are they going to stay open? Do you want to take some of that? I I can I can answer, but I we'll get the engineer's perspective.

The uh in the past, some of those pads have been raised up with some material. Um, this is strictly a drainage project and um, Austin designed it so that um, we could collect it all into one spot and and open up more of the the sites like Dusty was saying. Did I answer your question? Yeah, I just this has been a thorn in my side ever since the city opened up those additional spots because most of the time people can't camp there and when they are there's water around them and it's an insect mosquitoinfested um operation. So, it's been a it's been a frustrating thing, hasn't it, Dusty? I mean, I'm sure we agree on this.

It has. Um, hence that's why we thought we would try and move that water off of those areas faster. So, when it comes to engineering, are we I mean, I caught a little bit about where you're sending this water. We really getting rid of it. I think it a little bit of what Doug was alluding to. I mean, engineers are paid to I think you just said Austin Engineering was hired to Help me out, Justin. Right now, correct me if I'm wrong, Dusty. Right now, the they drag pumps around to get the low spots and pump them. I've seen them there. Yeah, agree.

What what we're trying to do is collect it into one spot, so it makes it easier to pump. And uh I hopefully if it works like it should the these areas will be draining faster and they'll be able to open up. So a comparable would be a homeowners who have a has a sump pump in their drainage field for their basement.

It's going to go to the collecting point. We're only solving then for a a one inch 2 inch rain event that similar to am I on the I I'm not sure that this is solving anything. I I want to know I'd like to know what are we solving. We're we're reducing the amount of time that those sites are closed. Um, again, I went into this if we could get a 50% reduction of, you know, let's say the 90 days to a 45 days. I would deem that a success.

Yeah. Plus, it's going to dewater those areas faster. We're not necessarily going to have cattails growing in there. Yeah. Um, you know, mosquitoes breeding, what have you. Is it gonna solve it 100%? No. Um, and again, I never thought it would. You know, maybe we build a campground somewhere else. You know, it just it's tough with the drainage there. Um, so this is an opportunity to at least move that water a little faster.

I support this. I still it's I believe it's wise use of the taxpayers's money. Um I guess time will tell. Councilman Peters, Councilman Mormon.

Um I just I support this uh not only on the revenue standpoint of which we can generate back, being able to rent out these camping spots, but also just the uh basic aesthetics of the park. you know, instead of having a a park that's been a long time standing uh place in our community, instead having that sitting underwater all summer and, you know, not looking very attractive to public coming in from out of town, uh this just helps drain it and give us a more just aesthetically appeasing um appealing park. Uh letting the water drain back into the lake. And then also, um, if we did raise a bunch of area out there, I'm afraid we would probably have a whole room full of people from Paradise Drive saying if you're going to raise City Park now, all that water is going to flood into our homes. And so there there's a I would say there's probably a huge tread lightly when it comes to, you know, raising land out there versus one property owner saying, "Well, now you're going to make me the low spot and flood me out instead." So, I think it's a way to take care of the water that we have on our property by draining it back into the lake. And I think it's a it's a great way to just have um City Park uh be much more dry and aesthetically appealing throughout the summer.

Councilman Shy, did you have your hand up earlier? Okay, Councilman Allen. Um, the other thing, uh, we've, uh, I don't know how many trees are gone out there now, but that's opened up the park pretty substantially, and I think things should dry out a little faster. It's not as shaded. There'll be more sun there. So hopefully all these things will combine to achieve the goal of, you know, whether it's 50% or whatever, we'll get more use out of it. I would agree. I support it as well. This is similar to an agricultural application. You know, the use of journey tile to allow additional farming on different land. So, I guess uh

mayor, I've got my hand up. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Hoyer. Thank you for addressing that. So, Councilman Hoyer,

um so I'm just going to toss out I've been camping at city parks since 1996. um pre the expansion and you know seen as the whole time um the concerns about raising pads no legitimate um hole needs correct that you do have to raise everything that I mean as it stands right now the pads are really underwater um we'll see it once in a while where campers are sitting on the pads and they're on islands and they don't have anywhere to put anything else I think the drain tile is a really good step the right direction it's definitely going to help mitate I ran the math too, Dusty, yesterday, just looking at sites and knowing what the rates are and you know, your estimate is about where I ended up to break even about 10 years realistically. And so I feel good about that. Opens up more revenue. It also helps us utilize the extra out there, too. Um, doesn't let rain dictate so much. And then it also helps us get started a little earlier in the spring when we're getting most of that flooding. Anyway, um the only question I kind of had about it was with the sump area being located over by the seaw wall because the way you know it kind of works it humps up to that seaw wall so all the water gets kind of trapped as flow of the lake. when we're pumping at I assume we're pumping into lake then um the holding some that underground or we doing some sort of retention pond kind of fixture to del into that quick

engineer Peterson it's um I guess the easiest way uh for me to describe it it's kind of like a manhole it's it's underground and you pump up and out of it Okay, perfect. I was just curious, was creating a water hazard at all or anything, but nope, that sounds good to me. And yeah, I mean, realistically, we often lose a month of it no matter what, every year when it can be utilized the old park. So, um, that's better utilized that space and, uh, it's definitely a utilized part, that's for sure. So, what a great asset we have and I'm glad that we can open smart.

Thank you, Councilman. Um, before I address again, does any councilman have a any other comment?

I just like to point out one thing. I mean, you also have the residual income of campers when they come to town usually spend money elsewhere, not just renting a campsite. So, that's also residual income to the town, which is good to take into consideration. I think uh I'll just say from my standpoint, director Rodic, great idea. I remember you coming up with it years ago, wholly behind the idea. My question is more on the engineering side of it, which would be what Councilman Jiren said. Is this like we've seen really bad flooding out there. Is this designed to handle two inches of rain? Is it hand is it designed to handle I guess what are we getting? How much water abatement are we getting? And and if you don't know the answer, that's fine. I'm still supporting the idea because I can see the benefit of it. I just I hope that this these questions were addressed in the engineering aspect of it. There we go. Okay. Um, I don't know what the the level is uh exactly, but it's really meant to, you know, kind of the nuisance type ponding. Try to prevent that and drain it faster. That's really the key. It it still will fill up, but it will drain faster is the goal. Yeah, it's I mean it's an easy project to behind because we can see the benefit of it and it's a sore spot and advantage for the community just from an engineering standpoint which I don't understand. I'll admit that but uh hope we're getting a lot out of it. Any other questions or comments from

council? I do. Councilman Jires. U so part of it is aesthetics also uh because they can go in and mow before the cattails show up, right Dusty? I'm sure your mowers have dealt with this long enough. Um could you clarify uh one more thing? Where's the water ending up and is it filtered before it goes into the lake? I think you may have alluded to some of this. the goes to the drain tile which has its own kind of filtration way it's the system works there's filtration there and then um if the lake is lower it'll drain down filtered um the only time it's pumped is if um it can't drain the lake and

yeah I was going to say just to add to that you know the the nature of a drain tail system is that water will percolate through the soil which you know will take out the the heavy sediments and then you know most rain has some sort of a filter sock as a part of it. So anything else? Uh yeah. Um I don't know if my comments were taken from that's okay. Um but I would never um suggest adding uh dirt to flood another neighboring uh area out. I am big time supporter of what we're hap what's going on here. I just have questions about the effectiveness and about the engineering. But I already know if it does get rid of the water, the aesthetics are solid because it's a well-driven road. It's a it's a it's a it's it's a big visual for Watertown. It's an important park. It's it's even Councilman Hoyer uh alluded to it. Tons of people want those spots and most weeks and weekends they can't get in there. So provides a a ton of of good things. But that's all I have. Mayor, thanks.

All right. Thank you. Any other questions, comments? The motion is to approve the bid award. All those in favor will say I. Opposed? Nay. Finance officer Brazine, please call the role. Okay. Shetty, I. Allan, I Mormon. Hi. Jens, I Peters. All in favor? Motion is unanimous in favor. Motion is approved. Item 11A is a first reading of an ordinance zoning text amendment to chapter 21.24 residential storage district of the revised ordinances of the city of Watertown. We'll go to our community development manager, Brandy Hatton, for more information.

Thank you, mayor. So, this is basically a cleanup to the residential storage district. Um, it's accomplishing creating or establishing what the allowable materials are for these types of storage structures that would be appropriate being placed adjacent to residential districts. And then we also u made sure that there were um added protections and screening to the adjacent residential properties um or zoning districts when a property is reszoned to allow for residential storage. Um and then the other thing that we are accomplishing with this is defining what a shipping container is and then u making sure that they are prohibited in the residential storage district. So with that I'll stand by if there's any question.

Thank you. This is a first reading. No no no need for action but would encourage questions and comments. Council, I would just like to thank uh Manager Hatton for revising it. As it said in the agenda packet, it was largely at my request to address some of these questions that I had. I thought it would be better to address some of the concerns that I had about um the visibility especially among the neighbors. I thought it would be better to address it ahead of time and rather rather than pass the ordinance and have a problem come up later. So, thank you for doing that and um I think we have improved. So, Councilman Mormon was first.

Just a quick question as I'm reading the new uh new ordinance here. We're still going to allow vegetation to be a choice for the six foot high screening? Yes, as long as it is six feet. Um, and that would be required to be installed at the six-foot height before a certificate certificate of occupancy would be issued. Okay. So, it's not like somebody could plan a little tiny sapling 20 years down the road we'll have six feet. Yeah. Okay. That's the main thing I was concerned about. Yeah. Thank you. Yep.

Councilman Jurns. So, I like the mayor am glad that this has come forward and thanks for your work on this. I'm I'm seeing the definition of a storage container, but you you also know that I received quite a few calls on one that sat there unfinished for a long time and wondering if that has been addressed, if there's a time limit. Remember we talked about um the time limit was like forever and so the individual that had the storing container that they were eventually going to make look nice decided they just use it right up to the end of that time period. Has that been addressed?

Yeah. So, typically with shipping containers when um they can be utilized as an accessory structure, depends on what type of district they're in, but um if say that they're being used in a residential district, they would have to be framed and sided so that they matched what the primary structure looked like in residential construction style. Um now shipping containers though like a construction uh trailer or whatnot um they you do see them being used during the construction period. So if there's a um a valid it's not the word I'm looking for but uh a valid building permit on the property um that that's allowed one year. they're valid for one year. So, you could potentially see that being utilized. Um, but after the building permit is ready to be closed out and the certificate of occupancy is issued, everything would have to be conforming to that particular district.

Any followup? So, it's one year if they have a building permit. Um, you know, they're building houses out of these things and stacking them and actually they're pretty cool. They're doing all kinds of things with and to uh not refurbish, but uh uh the word escapes me right now. I mean, they're just using stuff that can be used again, and we applaud people for that. Um, but as you know, and I don't know how many calls you got, there were some people that were peed off at that one that sat there in a really nice decent area of town.

And let's let me just get some clarification. So, if they have a building permit, this is for the public. I'm okay if you call again. Um, but if they have a building permit, they have one year, then they can get an extension potentially. Residential is typically one year or depending on the reasoning, then they could get an extension for up to three years.

Okay? So if someone really wants to be a thorn in the public's um opinion, they can keep that storage container there looking nice and pretty for up to three years. And in a project like that, it is at the discretion of the building official. So if it's not for any other reason, then it can be denied to be extended as well. So an accessory uh building permit or accessory accessory structure building permit. You would not we wouldn't you don't see those extended because there's no reason typically.

Uh again, thanks mayor for getting this forwarded and your work on this. Brandy, Councilman Mormon,

uh just a comment. Um, the one loophole I can see in this or the one thing that we might end up having to deal with later on down the road is um, if somebody puts up a storage area like this next to, um, residential, we have shipping containers that are brand new and painted white and clean and look nice when they're all in a row. And then you can go and buy shipping containers that are every multicolored you can think of and are completely rusted out. So, I I could see us having some trouble if all of a sudden we have blue and tan and red and green and orange and white and um containers lined up and they're really old used rusty ones.

But they can't have shipping containers in this district. Okay. So then, and regardless, they will have to reszone. So, but shipping containers can't go. if they were to reszone to a residential garage, they they can't place them in that district, which is the purpose of it, you know, is to be near residential res residentially zoned properties or neighborhoods. Um, so yeah, they they can't. Sure. I'm just thinking, you know, if somebody can see it from their living room, you know, it might it could get interesting.

Yes. Yeah. Uh, and that's why we wanted to protect those residential districts with prohibiting them. Councilman Hoyer. Thank you, Mayor. Um, Randy, I just want to clarify when we're talking about a permit, are we more so talking about an active construction site? That's why we see them using it more as just like a mobile office um or like a storage computer for materials, tools, people lock that up at night. And then uh the follow on questions um does the clarification that we're using will that affect any existing storage areas that are active be used in town?

Thank you Councilman Hoyer. So no it won't because no this is a new district. So, this was uh initiated at the beginning of 2025 and we have not had anyone reszone to this district. So, it's a good time to uh focus on it and clean it up. Andy, your other question that is uh your first question or comment. Um that is true that it is when it's a construction site that people may utilize them for, you know, Yeah. the same way that they would utilize a construction trailer.

Perfect. Thank you. Any further comments or questions, council? Right. We'll see this back at the next meeting. We're on to city council announcements. Anybody have anything to say? Councilman Peters.

Thanks, Mayor. I was going to bring this up uh during the discussion on the drainage, but one thing that's come up repeatedly, and I know Councilman Jern has heard this, is the road condition of that South Lake Drive area by the city park. That is in really bad shape. I don't know where that falls in our our plan, but we should uh certainly make that a priority to take a look at because that area out there needs attention. the the economic impact we get from those campers I think is important just to showcase the lake. So that's all I had. Thanks. Any other announcements? City manager report. City Council uh Councilman Hoyer.

Yeah, sorry. Um just back on to Councilman Peter's comment. I get a lot of comments from Mike on the north side of the lake too. I'm sure Councilman Jurns hears it as well. I the lake could probably just use a good I'm sure our engineering department does this, but I think we could use a good road status look at just how the lake's doing in comparison to other things and where it sits project list. I'm sure you guys already have it for at some point, but just so we can make that available to the public, say that to them as well where currently stands because I mean even on the north side um you're bouncing along that just because it's eved and stuff, but just rather need to look and just more.

Thank you, Councilman Jours.

I'll use my announcement time, too, because Justin and I just chatted about this the other day for probably the third time uh about prioritizing South Lake, North Lake Drive. Not it's because it's in my, you know, my ward. It's because every visitor, every farmer that likes to go out for a drive in the evening and I hear from them, they love to take the crews around the lake. Uh so, um I'm glad I'm hearing more support from councilmen. Um that's good. Appreciate that. Uh, a lot of the um flume ride that you get is from all of the replacements of the water mane uh that hooks up to the street from bad um construction from I believe the 70s. So, um I'm hoping that now that maybe 90% of them I'm just guessing maybe it's only 50% of them are done. um that some of this road um improvement can happen. Thank you.

Thank you. Any other comments? Now, the city manager report.

I I had three items, but I I've added a fourth, so I'll take that one first. Uh, city manager Peterson and I discussed just uh about a week and a half ago about publishing the entire um road plan looking out into the future so that the public can see when various roads are scheduled in the current plan and then we can take some feedback in terms of the prioritization. Um, three other items uh some items coming up. The community development division has worked on a campus zoning district. that will be another new zoning district in the community that will allow us to have a higher density student type of housing. So, I'd anticipate within the next uh three meetings. We we'll be bringing that forward. Uh secondly, um it's been quite a while since we've had a tax increment financing uh request in the community. We have received an application and we will be taking that through the planning commission and ultimately uh to the council if if the planning commission finds it to be a suitable uh location for the tax increment financing district. So that will be coming uh within the next approximately four meetings as well. And then finally, just an item to be aware of. Uh in the legislative session last year, uh a bill was passed uh instructing the school districts and the cities to try to in the counties to try to standardize on common elect uh election dates. And so we will be bringing forward for your information some potential options that we can look at. Uh this isn't something that needs immediate action, but we do now that uh we are not in election year from a council standpoint, we want to review it with you as a council to see if you have uh opinions on the time of the year that we hold municipal

elections. Uh we're given a couple of options under state law. So we'll bring that forward in a future meeting. Um, more substantial may be to change the actual year that we hold elections and we may want to push that forward to a future charter uh charter review session uh and just address the time of the year first. That's all I have. Thank you. And we do have a reason to go into executive session for conversation regarding a personnel matter. We will not be taking any action when we are done with that. So chair will entertain a motion to go into executive session. Made by Councilman Peters, seconded by Councilman Allen. Any discussion on that hearing? None. The motion is to go into executive session. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any oppose say nay. I.

Motion carries. Good night and God bless you, Watertown.