Council Meetings - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, October 22, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Council Meetings
Meeting Type
Council Meetings
Location
Washington, UT
Meeting Date
October 22, 2025

Transcript

167 sections (from 522 segments)

0:00 – 0:290

at city hall for our workshop meeting. I'll uh remind everyone that our meetings are streamed live and archived at washingtoncity.org/meings. And council, I'll turn to you now for a motion to approve the agenda as outlined. So move second. I have a motion by Councilman Belliston and a second by Councilman Coats. All in favor?

0:27 – 0:460

Any opposed? that is approved uh unanimously 4 to zero. First item of business is the Fremont solar PPA project. Uh power director Rick Hansen will present to the council. Mr. Hansen.

0:43 – 2:060

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um I brought in some support today. Um, so the main main item that we're going to approve or ask you to approve is participation in a Uamps project, Fremont Solar. This one has batteries, so it's a little different than our other two solar projects. Um, when we presented it to the power board, they wanted to see a little more detail of how it fits into our resource portfolio. And so we went back and and Scott and Jake did a great job of putting a slide deck together that kind of walks you through some of the challenges and and what our loads look like. So I'm going to share my screen and then turn the time over to um Scott. And so Scott is our assistant power director's been with us a little over six months. Um and he's been a great asset to the department. So should be able to just do your arrows.

2:06 – 2:200

It's good to see you, Scott. Yeah. Thank you. We're glad to have you here tonight and you know most of us are pretty good but you know watch out for Henderson there. He's he's the one Councilman Henderson.

2:18 – 4:170

All right. Well, good afternoon. It's nice to be with you guys tonight. Um hoping to just add a little bit of clarity um a little bit of different uh outlook on how how we do our resources. Um, so we're we're going to kind of cover a lot of the different resource stuff before we before we get down and talk specifically about uh this Fremont project and Rick will do that. So, we uh Rick kind of came up with this concept and I I put some images together to help explain what we're talking about. So this image here of of blocks, different blocks, different colors, different shapes, kind of represents different types of of resources, whether it's wind, solar, batteries, uh coal, natural gas, whatever it be, nuclear, and then um also different prices because all of these different resources, you know, they come at different prices and they they cost us different amounts of money. But there's all these products that are out there. I mean, honestly, there's not a lot. It's it's still limited what kind of products we can get, but there's products out there on the market. They might look like this. Different sizes, different shapes, different colors, different prices. Um, but what we have to try to do is fit them into a a curve that is our load. So, this hole in the table that you can see there kind of just visually represents our load. What you know, the load that our city uses uh every day, every hour. Um, and so the load is always changing. it's rising and falling and then we're buying these products that we have to try to fill fill in the hole with the with these products. And as you can see kind of from the representation, it doesn't fit that well usually. Um it's almost imposs I mean it's pretty much impossible to have um resource that follows your curve perfectly. It's just not going to happen. Um so it's kind of that concept of trying to drive a a square peg into a round hole. And this image kind of helps

4:15 – 6:070

in the sense that you really are gonna have some extras. You're gonna have some leftovers because you just can't you can't fit it exactly. Um so with that kind of as a prelude um we wanted to talk a little bit about what we here at at Washington what you know our load and the resources that we have. So we decided to take um some examples of our loads. So this graph here is um at the bottom 1 through 24 those are the hours of a of a day and the numbers on the left uh 5,000 kilowatts through 55,000 kilowatts. I probably should have done megawws but so that would be 5 megawws up to 55 megawws. Um and this would be like a peak day in November. So this green is going to represent November of last year. That would that actually that was our load. So you can see starting from the hour of midnight to 1:00 in the morning, our load was, you know, 12 1/2 megawws. And then as the morning goes on, we, you know, our low drop just a little bit and then it rises and we have a little bit of a peak right there about 9 or 10:00 and then again at uh so that so I guess the 10th hour is 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. and then the the 20th hour that would be uh 7:00 to 8:00 p.m. So that kind of shows you what our load does throughout the day. That's just one day in November. And you know, if we were taking that concept of those blocks trying to fit the resources that we have and fit them into our curve, it's not too bad. When you look at November, um the curve is not too crazy. There's there's some peaks and some valleys, but it's fairly flat. You know, we can it's a little bit easier to fit those blocks in.

6:060

I feel like you're setting us up just a little bit, Scott. I mean, yeah. Yeah, it's going to change. November is pretty nice.

6:11 – 8:080

Yeah, it's going to change for sure. So we'll go through and we'll look at the at the different months. These are so this is the the highest load on any on any given day in one month. So in December, this was the highest load. Um those colors are pretty close on that screen, but um you can kind of see there's kind of a double peak in December. Peaks early in the morning and then drops back down and then peaks again in the afternoon. Um so then it's a little bit harder to fit in with the blocks. Um, January still kind of got that double peak, but the peak's getting a little bit higher. February kind of flat and and like I said, I just picked the highest day. And there's other days that probably looked more like January, but kind of get those uh double peak. March, we're starting to have just more of an afternoon peak uh but pretty, you know, pretty low power hitting the 20 megawatt area. But then we hit April and we're starting to see a higher peak at 25 megawatts, a little over May, you can see we're dropping down really low early in the morning and we're and we're rising really high in the afternoon. So this is getting harder and harder to feel that that curve with those with the products that we purchase. June, July, you know, July is generally our going to be our peak. Sometimes August, uh, but we're hitting up there almost 55 megawws, but in the early morning hours, we're just below 20 megawws. So, I mean, you're 35 megawatts of difference. It's just impossible to have load resources that are going to fit that curve perfectly. Um, then I'll just finish out the rest of the year, kind of start dropping back down again in September and October, coming back down again, too. So, that kind of gives you uh that that way of looking at one day out of each month for a whole year. That's kind of what we're looking at.

8:06 – 8:310

That's actually really helpful. I mean, as council members and a lot of these council members have dealt with power for obviously at least four sometimes, you know, 8 12 years. Yeah. But that visually depicts peak load. Yeah. In a really uh interesting way that uh uh we have to be able to plan for the peak. Is that what you're saying?

8:29 – 10:240

Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Um I'll give you another way. We prepared some other slides that will show you another way of looking at it. Let me switch to this one. So this still is just it's taking those basically taking those charts and just spreading them out. So instead of on top of each other, it's throughout the whole year. Uh so that's one month, but that's one day of each month throughout the whole year. And you can see those those are really small. Man, I need my glasses. December, you know, November through April, you know, we kind of have those more smaller, flatter curves and then you get the big curves in the in the summertime. Um so if we were trying to buy product for this, um you can see it's just almost impossible. I I threw a trend curve in there just to show you. You know, you can try to try to buy in the middle and and and this typically is what we you know, a lot of power companies will do that just kind of shoot for the middle and buy the extra on the market when you need it. But that's all changing in the future with EDAM and that's a whole another three-hour discussion or more. Um but this one, this graph here is showing you the peak day um of each month for a year. This one is the is the lowest base day low. So the lowest um energy that we used for that year for that month. So there's a separation there. And then this orange one, there's a curve there. This orange one is the average. So this orange one kind of shows you the average of any given day on each month of the year. And then this I just put this chart in there that shows them all three together. So it gives you an idea even within one month you can have like I mean look over see if I could see my cursor. Yeah, a little bit over here in the month of May. You know, you can have

10:23 – 12:210

anywhere up I those are really small numbers, 40 megawws or you might peak at 10 to 15. I think those numbers are really small. Um, but you can have big big differences on any given day within the month. Um, and then just one more little representation as we're talking about how how much variety there is. This brown chart at the bottom is showing you every hour of every day for a year. So this one is Oh, no, not a year. Sorry. This one's October. This is just October. I just chose October. Every hour of October, you can see that it rises and falls every single day. Okay. And then later in the year as it starts to cool off that that curve is starting to flatten out and starting to get a little bit more manageable. But and so if you could imagine that October would fit um right here in between these two markers there. And so now you put out the the full year and you really got some I mean it's just it basically we're just trying to illustrate their loads are rising and falling all day every day. um and it's just almost impossible to to fit those, but we do the best we can. So, we're going to take just a few minutes and and look at um this solar project that that uh Rick will be talking to you about is um this is a typical solar curve. So, when we buy solar products, um the blue line is depicting the solar starting to produce gener generation starting to produce energy. uh hour 4 through 5 and then comes on strong and and then it falls a little bit earlier in the afternoon as the sun is starting to uh set in the in the sky. We're

12:18 – 13:140

getting less energy. The blue or the green and the red, so the red is the energy that would actually come to the members of U amps. The green is the energy that would go towards the batteries to charge the batteries. So this project's going to have solar and batteries. So the blue is showing how much energy it's producing, but the red is what would come to the members and the green would go to the batteries. So then if the energy that went to the batteries, if when we discharge that and send it to the members. So when we take that energy, they would they're showing this is a typical curve. I think we can manipulate that a little bit, but the typical curve is that they would start to discharge the batteries uh hour 14 through 15 and then they would discharge them pretty heavily through 17, 18, 19, 20. Those are the peak peak hours for most.

13:11 – 13:560

Can can you tell us again what BESS stands for? You bet. Uh that's um battery energy storage system. And so that's what picks up once the sun goes down and it extends the the intermittent Yep. So you're using you're using the the photovoltaic which is the solar to charge the best which is the battery and then in the afternoon you're going to discharge that battery onto the grid. So instead of just generating the solar right onto the grid, you're going to charge the batteries and then discharge them later. So you're you're moving that that peak, you're moving the energy when people get home, start the laundry, cook dinner, all that stuff. Yep. Yep. Maybe I can.

13:54 – 14:050

Which we know they shouldn't do the laundry at that time of day, right? You've told us that before, Rick. It's the AC mostly. Yeah.

14:02 – 14:440

Yeah. So, going back to this visual, you can see that, and this is very typical of most utility companies, you can see that even in the in the shoulder months, which is the more um less energy times of the year, the shoulder months, you're still peaking in those 17, 18, 19, 20 hours. So the battery gives you that option of shifting that energy to those later hours when you really need them and just and consequently when the peaks are higher, when there's more demand, the price is higher. So that's kind of an issue that we're always dealing with is dealing with high prices when we need the most energy. I ask a couple questions. You bet.

14:43 – 15:280

Go ahead, council. On the batteries. Um so this is fairly new in in photovoltaic solar array systems right for as at least for municipal grid right um I wouldn't say new but it's it it's um because it's not like new technology but it is more common now. Yeah I would say so I don't know if Rick feels any differently. This will be the first one. Okay. I'm just wondering what the life cycle is on the batteries, right? Because they're they're a pretty expensive initial purchase to and then

15:26 – 16:390

most of the most of the contracts I've seen, they're looking at about 10 years. So, they'll they'll work that into the contract. That part of the contract, the the supplier of the batteries is going to have to supply another another batch of batteries. and it's all worked into the contract cuz that's and they'll and they'll actually degrade too. They don't they don't say it full power through the whole time. So all of that goes into the calculations of the contracts. So yeah, definitely something you want to be aware of. And um so then there's one more graph here that looks like this. Then we'll go through a couple other graphs, but this one um is just showing you basically that magenta line is showing you the actual energy that would be coming to the members. So it you see it following the red line because that's what's coming to the members. So the green it's that's when it's charging the batteries. And then as the red drops off, as the solar drops off, the batteries pick up and so the magenta line stays up kind of higher. So you can see that what we're what we're bringing in from this project would be it kind of moves that peak over to the you know 15 16 17 18 19 hours.

16:36 – 17:180

Scott, is there not a gap then when you look at that looks like there's a gap between the orange and the and the pink. Yeah, cuz the So what makes that that gap is you're still getting some solar. You're still getting a little bit of solar and you're also getting battery. So, it's like the transition from the one to the other. As the solar's coming off, you're bringing the battery up. I thought it would have just followed the blue line, but I I could see what you're saying. It's just kind of the blue is just following the production of the solar and then you add the orange of the battery on top of it. So, that's why the pink is up higher. Does that make sense?

17:15 – 19:130

Okay. Um, so Jake prepared some some graphs for us. This is um we we're going to look at February and then I think July was the other one that we're going to look at. Um he chose a day in February to show what we at Washington what we're using um on a typical day. So this is a a load curve for Washington um with our our resources and we don't really need to focus on all of the different resources. I kind of what we're talking about is solar and battery. So, we're kind of looking more right here in the middle of the day is when solar is producing. So, these um this kind of tan color is the steel 1B. So, that's uh solar resource that we're me that we're members of that we take uh product from. Steel 1A and red Mesa. So, those are coming on here in the middle of the day. The blue is the Nebo. That's our natural gas uh plant in PAC. And so that kind of drops off when the solar is coming on. And so we're doing the best that we can to fill fill these lines. But you can see we have a pretty good gap right here at the peak of the day 18 1920 21 hours. Um and so this next graph shows what's going to happen if we purchase Fremont. Um, we can, it gives us more autonomy with our nebo, but we we're pretty heavy in the middle of the day in in February. And this is without battery, without using the battery. That's why it says no best up there. Um, this is just the the solar. So, if we were just buying just a solar product, this is what it would do to our curves and to our our stack. Um, if we use the battery now, you can see the you'll see the yellow shift and and it fits our curves a lot better

19:10 – 19:550

using the batteries. Um, and then we'll quickly look at July. Um, this is without the Fremont project. We've got some gaps there again at the peak hours. And then if we purchase the the solar without the battery, um, doesn't fit the curve super well. And then if we use the battery, we can see that shift over and helps fill in that peak area. And then of course, always remember that it's those peak those peak times when when the power is really expensive. So it's it's a big deal to even though we're a little long, you know, hours 8, 9, and 10, that's not nearly the impact that it is to be short hours 18, 19, 20.

19:52 – 20:260

So sometimes we'd still be buying on the market. Yep. To offset. Question. It almost looked like especially on that other graph that on some days um or on some parts of the day it might be providing like 20% of our total uh power on on this one. Yeah. Yeah. That's just roughly what I see with my eye. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's quite a percentage.

20:24 – 21:070

We do have a lot more coming up. Um, we've we've elected to participate in two big natural gas projects. That'll change this whole percentages of what kind of resource we have. That'll it'll change a lot. How's our pricing? Not I mean, if you're getting to it later. Yeah. I'll turn the time back over to Rick. He's going to talk about all that kind of stuff. Did you guys uh you went a little easy on Scott for first time in front of the council, you Well, yeah. My first comment is I think the power department is giving the police department a run for their money in the facial hair department. I mean that's a pretty impressive beard. So chief, I mean you got to step up your game.

21:03 – 22:390

All right. Okay. I I don't contribute to that side. So, so hopefully you can see how we think this this project will um fit in. And so you talked about some of the costs and and you mentioned the battery degragation. So that's kind of the beauty of a PPA power purchase agreement is that maintenance goes on to the owner of the facility, not on us. So our pricing is fixed for that 25-y year period and they have to produce based on certain parameters uh during that 25 year life. So if the solar panels have problems, they've got to fix them. If the batteries have problems, they've got to update them or replace them. So So that's the the beauty of or one of the benefits of a PPA. So, right now we've uh we've signed up for 7 1/2 megawws and that's solar capacity. We won't see that 7 and 1/2 because of the graphs you saw because we're going to shift some of that 7 and 1/2 and move it later. So, in reality, it'll be more like fiveish is what we see different times of year. It's going to be less in the winter than it is in the summer because of the solar angle of the sun. So, um,

22:37 – 22:570

give us an idea of what the batteries look like. I mean, are they the size of a car or the size of a building? I mean, have you guys seen them? They typically will house them in conx kind of structures. Okay. And just a whole bunch of them. A whole bunch of them. Yeah. About the size of one of those, huh? Okay.

22:56 – 24:520

Yep. So, for the pricing, uh, this was in your, this is the briefing document. Um, let's see if I can make it just a little bigger. So, the solar energy part is $34.45. So, basically 3.4 a kilowatt hour or 3445 for per for per megawatt hour, which is really good. But our other solar projects are in the mid40s, mid to upper 40s. So on the solar side of it, it's actually cheaper than Red Mesa and steel. On the battery side, it gets a little it's a little different terminology. The the range is 1350 uh kilow $13.50 per kilowatt month. So if we have uh basically half of this is going to be our battery capacity. Um yeah the the total plant is 99 megawws with 49 12 megawatts of battery. So you take this, we'll pay each month 1350 times half of that 7500 and that's what you pay to have the battery there. And so uh the other complicating part on this is our friends at the federal government with their tariffs. It could go uh the battery cost will be between the 1350 a kilowatt month and 1414 a kilowatt month depending on what the the tariffs end up being uh between now and when it's uh constructed.

24:47 – 25:280

So the overall blended cost of those two is 69 if we end up in the 1350 range to 74 if we end up in this 1414 range. So basically the co the battery rough numbers is going to double the cost of the end product because like you said the batteries are expensive got to maintain them install them but this is primarily for peak load. I mean is it 365 whatever it's

25:26 – 25:440

but I see a lot of this filling in that that peak load at the hottest times of the day. Yes. Um, this is a little more expensive power. My question is, how does it compare to power that we would buy on the market if we didn't invest in this in this source?

25:42 – 26:400

Last year, the market would have been cheaper than this. Two or three years ago, the market was probably five times this. So again, it really varies. I think one thing you got to keep in mind what this does over that 20 year 5year period it provides a stable known cost. Yeah. If if you chase the market on a daily basis I mean it's just like kind of like the stock market market. You're going to some days you're going to come out great other days not so great. And so that's how I look at it. And then uh Scott did mention EDAM which is the extended day ahead market which will go go into effect in May. We don't have the option of going in day ahead short like we have in the past. Uh we're going to have to show we have enough resource the day ahead.

26:38 – 26:540

Hey Rick, I hate to interrupt you, but I don't want to get too far down the road. I want to uh play off of Mayor Stanley's great question. So, we always talk about just buying power. Is there ever a case where there's none to buy?

26:55 – 28:540

I I Well, I I guess that did happen back in like 22 in California. That's when they had rolling backouts. So, I mean, it could come to the point where if we don't have resources secured and we have load that exceed what our resources are, we have no choice other than to drop load to match it. So that's obviously something we want to avoid. But yeah, it has happened in the past. Not for us or any of the U amps or or Utah members, but it has happened in the country in different places. So So that's what exactly what we're trying to avoid. Get something that we can count on at a reasonable cost uh for a a decent period of time. So So those are the the basics. Uh you also had in your packet, you know, some of the talking points from U Amps. Uh again, I think we hit most of them. 25-year contract. It's anticipated to come online basically 2 years from now. Uh it could come on as early as the summer of 27 or the summer of 28. They have six months either way from that December 31st, 2027 date. So, uh it's located north of Cedar roughly Parowan Paragona area is where the the site location is. Um the one other advantage see if it's this one. I think it's the other one. one of the I can't find it here, but there is the uh production tax credits that are going away. And so them being able to demonstrate that they're considered under construction, they'll

28:52 – 29:270

still be able to qualify for that. If we were to wait a year, these prices would be higher. Who else is what other power companies are looking at participating this project? The whole offtake of that 99 megawws is UMP's members, right? And I would say there's I mean we're taking down 25 to 30 close to 10% 5 to 10% roughly. Uh 7 and a half is our our part. So So I read in this that there has to be 100% participation. Yes.

29:26 – 30:100

You weren't able to get 100% participation in the small nuclear reactor program. This this one is and there's actually a clause and there's a couple members that have elected because of participation in other projects to reduce their participation in this but there's a long line of people wanting that. So particip it's it's overs subscribed right now. Okay. You probably said but I was responding to somebody. What's the kilowatt hour rate that that equates to? roughly 69 to 74 depending on what happens with the tariff with the batteries cents.

30:05 – 30:480

So it'll be 6.9 cents a kilowatt hour to 7.4 cents and that's that's in line. Neibo runs depending on time of the year between in the upper 60s to the mid 80s. Few years back a lot of the um renewable that we were buying was you know sometimes 18 19 20 cents per kilowatt hour be but we had to buy it and then it just got you know added into the pool to where you know the rate that we sell it at to cover it right because we're selling retail out at half right so

30:46 – 31:270

our retail blocks are above above this cost yeah and uh and Again, like our Red Mesa and Steel products, they're in the mid to upper 40s. And this one, the energy parts actually cheaper, but because of the batteries, it blends out around $70 roughly. So, what other counsel, what other questions do you have for Rick? Rick, just a quick update on the small cell nuclear. We heard anything about that? Is it moving? Is it still a topic of conversation? as regulations move towards approval more now or

31:25 – 32:180

as far as UAPs goes there's no I mean we're we're still in hopefully by the end of next week the UAMPS project will I mean it was concluded basically two years ago uh there are other people still talking about it I wish them the best uh but it's the same challenges that we had to try to get that off the ground that that they're having. Um, so more to be seen and I think at some point if there's a successful one hopefully we'd probably pursue maybe a PPA kind of scenario with one of those. I don't know that we'd want to pursue a ownership like we were trying for before. So,

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further questions? Comfortable with this being on the regular meeting as an action item? Council? Thank you. That was a very well prepared presentation. So, I I love those graphs. So, it helps us to under, you know, I mean, I know nothing about power and that makes it so it's understandable. So, yeah. And I wish there was a place you could just find this product that magically, but you have to buy it in blunk blocks and hours and so makes sense. But yeah, no, it was Scott and Scott and Jake that put those together. We got a great team. So

32:56 – 33:340

I spent most I spent already 40 minutes, I think, asking questions. So, I had a lot of my questions answered beforehand because I have to have I have to go into more details because it seems like that's involved with it and hopefully this helped as well. So, thank you. Well done. Thank you, Rick. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate it. Next item of business is a streets update. I'll invite public works director Blake Fonsbeck to introduce this item. Good to see you, Mr. Fonsbeck.

33:32 – 34:300

Good to see all of you. Good evening, or well, afternoon still slightly, so we're good there. But, um, so, uh, we wanted to a while back, um, every year and Andy has to turn in a, um, amount of miles added to our to the state and he booked that on. we've been kind of watching this and and uh and this year it was like 12 a little over 12 miles added um just this past year. And so I asked him to kind of go back and see where we were at. And as we started looking at that um we realized that uh um you know we we've been we're growing so fast that that we've got to do something with our with our maintenance and trying to figure out how to while things look good now. Pavement is an interesting thing. It doesn't just stay good. It's kind of like your car. You have to do preventative maintenance to keep it moving along,

34:28 – 35:030

especially with asphalt to extend the life. Definitely. And it it absolutely deteriorates um at a level and but you can do some preservation things to bring it back up and and get more life out of it. And there's kind of a balance where you find where that balance is. So, we we wanted to do that and take a look at this. And so, um, I'll go with, uh, see if you can pull that mic up just it's still quite not quite tall enough for you, but I could get that. Yeah, that was good. Is that better? That's better. Thank you.

34:59 – 36:180

Okay. Um, so, uh, this is just quickly kind of the in the fiscal year 2025. These are the projects that we we did. They were fairly expensive projects. Um, and they basically took up most of our maintenance money. Um and so we did the widening of the Red Hills Parkway. Um we uh did the 300 East right turn pocket. Um the 2000 South Pavement reconstruction which was a very large um project and we'll kind of talk about that a little bit more. And then um the extended we extended the left turn lane on Main Street as well. um those with those happening then we weren't able to do our usual seal coat and and preservation type of maintenance as well. we had to use had to save up for two years basically to do these and that we have generally about a million dollars a year that we have that goes towards maintenance um of our streets and that's been consistent over the last 7 to 10 years and so that has put us into a to a realm as well with inflation that it's made that not as valuable as it was

36:16 – 37:150

you know seven years ago when it was when it was budgeted. So something that we we really need to to look at. And so um if you if you look at our and we we base all these things off of center lane miles, you have to kind of think of it as just taking a tape measure down the middle of the the road. It doesn't necessarily account for, oh, it's a five lane road or it's a threelane road or two lane. Um but we just measure things by center lane. That's what we have to report to the state. That's how we generally figure these things out. If you look at that, the last 10 years we averaged about 8.41 miles um which is an increase of uh 66% and most of that's from development and just the growth that we're having. Um but then you take and go since 2020 we've been averaging 10.34 miles a year. So we went from from 128 miles in 2015 to 212 center lane miles. So you know 65% increase

37:12 – 39:110

in 10 years in 10 years. Um that's really not common in most cities. We're we're having definitely a a a time in our growth where we're just um growing almost exponentially there. Um so just kind of a comparison to other cities. Um I know you guys like to be number one, but we're not quite there. But uh um but as far as um just the center lane miles across the state, we're 13th in our rankings. Um that's pretty impressive for for Washington City. Um and then you look at uh our increases um in since 2010 to 25 so over 15 years uh we were increased in we were the number two um just below well below Eagle Mountain and then we're still below Eagle Mountain but uh in from 2020 to 2025. So that growth has not slowed. It's grown. It's increased. It's it's going up and Eagle Mountains apparently facing a lot of the similar stuff there. Um so I wanted to talk a little bit just how asphalt works. Um in the sense that from day one, from the first day you put it down, it starts to deteriorate and and the oils and the the fines that are at the top start to wear off. And then the oils start to dissipate. And as they do that, the asphalt loses its flexibility and it loses its ability to hold those fines in. And so that's when it starts to deteriorate, starts to crack, starts to move a little bit, sink, those kind of things. Um, so what you do with that in order to what what the best method is is to rejuvenate or add a new surface back on this the fines area. I don't know if you've ever

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noticed that you go down a road asphalt road that's fairly old and you you see you see much much larger aggregate. You kind of see larger rocks that you you're seeing, but but when you look at a brand new pavement, it looks really smooth and fine and that that's kind of the difference. You start to lose that. So, the way you help your asphalt is by providing a minor treatment. And the best way to preserve is to to pro provide several minor treatments and then eventually um if you can do that you can kind of get out to that 20 to 30 year range depending on traffic and weight and load and everything. Um you get out to where then you have to do a major project. And that's what 20 or 2000 um south was is that was a major project that had gotten to a point where you couldn't add a new little surface to it. You had to had to re repave. And so we ended up doing quite a bit of work there and it was very expensive. So so then you do a major project and then you get back up and and you continue to to do that and and that's the way you basically work through those things. Um the other side of it is if you go over to um this other side, it's very colorful chart on the other side. That's kind of the typical pavement deterioration curve. And so what we did um this spring is we hired a company um JUB to to go out and do a um pavement assessment of every street. Um they had a fancy machine with lots of cameras and AI and everything and it drove all the streets and uh and that provided us with a with a baseline. In the past, what we've generally done is uh like Andy would go out and and do his assessment and then maybe our engineer would go out another year and do an assessment and you didn't quite have the exact same thing. So, this baseline creates a criteria and then we can continue to the

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AI is starting to get to a system where we will probably get to a point where we can put a um they have them right now, but we just haven't quite got to that level. Um, but uh you can put your cell phone there and on the on a mount on the front of your truck and drive around and then it will it will just look at everything with the camera and it will determine. So we wanted to set that uh baseline and then it'll determine where those roads are deteriorating. So, we've gone and done that and the way you then they're classified as good, satisfactory, that's the level we really want to keep those pavements in to where you can provide those those easier um those surface treatments and and really extend the life on. Um when you start to get down into fair and poor and you've left it that long, that's when you really start to get those streets where you it's cracked all over. And we do go and crack seal and try to bring them up to a level and then but they they don't come back up as well. And so you end up um not getting as much out of your surface treatment as you would have if you'd have taken care of that earlier. And so then when you get down to the very poor and serious and failed obviously then you're going to be in a full reconstruct or a major project in various areas. Um, so we had the Oh, I didn't wait long enough. He said to count to one. One, it's not going, dude. Thank you.

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Huh? Yeah. Is it the side? Yeah. Push that.

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Yeah, that's what I was pushing. Um so that's a little bit cut off there but um so so the treatment project that we did the slurry seal in 2023 that's the last slurry seal that we did and then after that we were saving up for this these uh the 2000 South project and some of these others. So, we did 505 uh,000 uh square yards, and that equates to, if you're thinking square ft, um, that's about 4.5 million square ft. Uh, that was an $814,000 project. In 2023, we did 21.5 center lane miles. Um, and that's was about 38,000 a mile is what it cost. Um, that was for surface treatment. Um, we did seal coating. I mean crack sealing on all of that as well with our own crews and then we came in and hired a company to do do the rest of this. So that included the cost of of doing the crack sealing as well the product and that not necessarily the labor for because that was our city employees. But you look at that and you say oh that we did a a lot of the city there. Um, and what you really see is a lot of those are smaller residential streets and so they don't have as as uh big of a um they don't you can get more of those done, you know, when you're looking at that. But what's the life of, you know, when you do the um slurry seal, does that last five years or what?

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It can be around 5 to seven years depending on your traffic. just um depending on what the surface was below it. Um if you waited just a little too long, it may not last quite as long. Um every once in a while you'll get a slurry seal that maybe is just not quite as good that they didn't get the binders just and it'll a little bit of it'll start to ravel off earlier. Um it doesn't like like in culde-sacs and things like that when you have garbage trucks doing tight turns and things like that. Sometimes that peels off in culde-sacs and things. But but for the most part, it's it's about 5 to seven years. Okay.

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Tell tell me the difference. I noticed St. George seems to do the uh thing where they lay down the I don't know oil and then chip Yeah, chip seal. I really like the slurry seal a lot better. But what's the difference? Like um a lot of the difference is you're putting a a larger material on there and and you're sealing it down, but you're putting that wear surface. So, it provides a a more durable wear surface, but it's also more of a pain. It It's messy. It uh um it's just uh Yeah. A lot of chipped windshields when you do it. Um those kind of things.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then when you It's It's just I like the slurry seal a lot better in in in the years that I've done it. it it's uh we I've done both and and it just um but again most of the uh chip seal that I've done was in northern country so when you hit it with snow plows it's not great. Yeah, it does okay but thanks. It's uh an issue but I like I think it you get a better product. It looks better and

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and uh people are generally happier with it. It still has a little when like when we did this project, we still had people call because there's still little fines that that are loose for a little bit and we go and sweep everything and then it also just kind of has to wear those little rough spots. Sometimes it looks a little rough but that wears off really quickly and then and it's good. Um, so, so you have that where we spent a million dollars and we were able to do all those or you have this where we spent 1.6 million just to do a mile of of rebuild. And so when you look at that curb, it's it's more it's more um efficient and and better costwise to to take care of your roads like this than to just let it go and deteriorate and then have to do those reconstructs. You're still going to eventually have to do a reconstruct on on most of your roads. But but that was just kind of those two things as a as an example. Um this is the actual pavement assist assessment. Um and again you have to keep in mind that we have a lot of newer roads. Um we've added 80 what was it quite a few miles 86 miles or something like that of of new roads over the last 10 years. And when you look at that um they have they're at various forms. And when you look at those colors and you see the dark green and the satisfactory and the good that satisfactory could be like next year it crosses over to fair if we didn't if that's true at that point. It's just so you have to figure that there's a a range in there as well. This was just a snapshot in time last April when we went through and did the assessment. That's where everything was at that point.

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Um and and just so you know, um that's that's about right now currently that's about 30 the the good let me go back one the the good or about 33% of our roads are good. Um 38% are in the satisfactory range. So, I mean, we're we're at a point where we're not in totally in trouble yet, but it could happen really quick because we have so much of it that is is at that level and we're so then when you look at fair and yellow, I mean fair and poor, we have 21% that are in the fair category, uh these are those roads that you would see that that surface is still good, but you're starting to see that cracking going across it, that kind of spider cracks everywhere. everywhere. Um, but it hasn't started to sink yet. It hasn't really those cracks aren't that deep yet. Um, but it's it's getting there. And then the pore, um, then you're now you're starting to get where there's ruting. There's there's potholes that start to pop out in in various places and and you start to feel the surface is is more rough. Um, and then very poor. Um, we have about uh 2% that's in the very very poor, 1% that's serious.

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I noticed that big snake of the old landfill road right there. Yeah, it's like half of it's serious and half of it's failed. Less than 1%. It's most of the failed. city.

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Um, and so, so those kind of things, those are ones that are going to need major reconstructs and we're we're just aren't going to have the budget to be able to do that. And so, if we if we take those on and do those, then we don't do our our regular maintenance and keep things up in the in the good and satisfactory level. Um, so it's just kind of a snowball thing. It starts to get worse and that's the only snowball we generally have down here. But, um, that's that's what we could have a snowball of roads. Um, just kind of a quick summary of pictures. There's land well country, formerly known as Landfill Road. Um, and that's the one that needs major project. We are um going to overlay that this fall. um and and help it out for a period of time. Um but eventually it'll it'll need something a lot more serious. Um the next one in the middle that's up in Brio. Um you can see one that's been slurry sealed. That's the dark um one. And then the lighter color there. Um you start to see some cracks. You start think seeing that that is a um one that that needs a minor treatment. And then the total reconstruct, that's just showing 2000. We did a total reconstruct. We milled it out. We put new base in and then new asphalt over all of it. So that turned out really well, by the way. And I think that that was um we will have something similar on Merrill Road um in the next year as well. So um that's got some sections that those two were like twins. Um, and then I just want to So all of this, the point is is all of this is going to cost us as we've grown so much,

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it's going to cost more money and and we're going to have to find out ways to get that and how to how to finance those projects. Um, and and then also come back and decide, you know, what level of service does the council want with the roads? What what do you want? and and then we will have to provide and and say, "Okay, then this is how we're going to fund it." So, we've hired um JUB. They did their pavement um assessment, but we've also hired them to come back and and provide us with some opportunities or some some ways to be able to fund this as well as kind of really look over everything we have and come up with a plan of how how we should should manage these and maintain them as well as where can we get funding to be able to do that. Um and uh and so we're going to hire them. We're hiring them. They'll be coming back in uh um in December in the December meeting workshop to really present some ideas of how we can how we can um accomplish this task and keep our roads up in in the shape that they are um rather than letting it it go down. um the only, you know, I mean, you don't want to get to a point where the only way we can fund things is doing large bond projects. That's could be a real problem. So, um so anyway, they're going to look at that. Um they're very experienced in that. They've helped quite a few cities up north um work through that and that's why we brought them down and they have an office now in St. George as well and so um they're very experienced with that. Um, I would like to introduce the team we're going to have on that is Travis M. Martin. He's not here tonight. He was unable to make it. Vacation, something like that. It just doesn't mean I don't know. Um, then Ken Clark is here. Ken Clark. And then, uh, Spencer

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Montgomery. And he just barely moved here from Washington State. So, he apparently didn't want to change the Washington part. So, he found a place that had the same name. Um but anyway, so that's what we've done. Any questions? Any thoughts?

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Council feedback for Blake. That's um it's a lot to swallow the fact that we've added that many roads over the last 10 years and and we understand generally the the importance of maintenance and upkeep, but that's that's important to keep top of mind. Uh Jeremy, looks like you have a comment and then council if you have any other input or comments. Yeah, I just I think it's important to recognize how how roads are supposed to be funded or how they are funded. Um, most of that money comes from gas tax, but there's been a lot of changes in the last 10 to 15 years with the gas tax

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and it it was not a an indexed tax as well. And so as the cost of fuel went up and the cost of all these expenses went up, that that money didn't go up with it. We're also seeing a lot of people with much more fuel efficient vehicles than they used to have, electric vehicles, things like that, which really cause Yeah, I'm I'm surprised at the number of Teslas that I see driving around and those don't pay any gas tax. They don't stop at the fuel stations. they're not. So, I think this is a bigger discussion than than, you know, just how are we going to pay for our roads, but it's it's I think cities generally recognize that the the tax dollars are not there like they used to be to help maintain roads and so how are we going to look at that in the future and what what ways are we going to fund to fund these roads? I think everybody would agree our residents demand a very high level, especially in in Washington County where we don't have snow and we don't you know, if there's a a tiny piece that's out of whack at a culde-sac, we get a we get a call from somebody, you know, this needs to be redressed immediately. So, I think that's that that level of service piece is really important and then then let's let's come up with a plan to attack that. So, that's all I had to say.

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Good comments, council. Anything for Blake before we invite Ken and Spencer? Thank you. Thanks. Good job. And then Tara, might I just ask that you send both of the the power and public works streets department uh powerpoints to the council. Uh Ken Clark and Spencer Montgomery.

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Hello. It's good to see you both. Welcome. Tell us what you have to tell us about uh streets maintenance. Well, so we we've been working really hard. Right into that mark there, Ken. There you go.

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We've been working really hard taking a look at all the streets and the wonderful roads that you have here in Washington. I mean, you saw you have 71% of your roads there are in absolutely excellent condition. And we've been evaluating the data. We brought in some information by going out collecting information from the roads, looking at what types of what types of distresses are on those roads, what does the pavement look like, then being able to put together a score for those. And then that information, we're putting it together and looking into the future. See what's what are the roads going to look like 5, 10, 20 years from now and what is it going to cost? What are those planned treatments that need to occur in order to make sure that we get the longest life possible out of those new roads that have been constructed? So, when we come back in December, we're going to present all of that to you. We'll have some great graphs and charts to help you understand all of it and then look at what some other cities have done in order to help fund the fund the roads. We can even talk a little bit about gas tax and what kind of road road pavement construction and reconstruction costs have done and what what impact that's had on it and answer any questions that you have at that point. So historically we've we've kind of tracked the uh the roads and we've we've maintained you know been on a rotation and I know the streets department has done a really good job but but it's eye opening just the number of new streets that we've added to a growing city. I I always say that we're not chasing growth. Growth is chasing us. And this is certainly one of those situations where um you know it it feels like that. Um will you when you come back will you recommend a schedule then with prioritizing the roads that that need it sooner than later but also recognizing that the sooner we can can treat to extend life of roads. I mean is there a science to that? Will your data show where we can best put the dollars that we have for streets maintenance?

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Yes, there is. Um, the short version, and we'll go into it further when we come back, bring that information to you, is that preservationbased management, as Blake talked about, is definitely the number one stressed and forwarded approach to pavement management in industry today. An example of that is because in the early early life of asphalt, it does tend to make a difference what you do with it in just the first two three years of its life. If you can get out there and put a surface treatment on that road, it reduces the deterioration that happens to the asphalt because of sun exposure and losing those initial fines. And just that in and of itself, which is usually the cheapest treatment you can do to a road, will add another 10 to 15 years of

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a little bit early on the front adds a lot on the back end. Yeah, it really does. Oh, that's great. Council questions for the professionals here. Mayor, I just think it's obvious that being preventative has huge benefit. Making sure that we're in ahead of that. I think it's I think it's vital and I appreciate Blake keeping a close eye on that. Okay, Spencer, anything to add? Welcome from Washington to Washington. You've you've upgraded your Washington.

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That That's right. I've learned that I need to say Washington State or or the city that I I come from, but uh it's great to be here. Uh great place. Uh excited to work for you. I haven't really got involved too much. My part has been waiting. Okay. Okay. Um, so I'm I'm the traffic guy, so we're going to help determine how many trips are being made on so that we can assign those those trips at cost as to relating to the amount of wear and tear that they put on the roads. Good. Which uh which city in Washington state? I'm from Kenowick in the Tri Cities, southeastern Washington. It's the desert, too, even though it's known as the Evergreen State.

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Well, that's great. We're glad glad to have you on board and look forward to uh maintaining apparently all of these new roads that we have here. So, great. Look forward to seeing you again in December. All right. Thank you both. Thanks, Blake. Is there anything uh you or Andy would like to add before we wrap this up? I I know Andy likes to be up here on I brought them along just in case you guys ask me something really difficult. This is the on toage. I think they're they're good. They they love sitting back there. I know they do.

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Well, you know, I think I speak for the entire council when I, you know, not only are we proud of the work our power department does, but I see John and Andy and Paul and everyone here and we appreciate the hard work you do. We know it's we know it's demanding and we know a lot of the the the employees there in public works in the streets department work really hard and and we appreciate the professionalism and the the consistent effort that you're making on it. Um unless there's any further discussion on streets from the council, I'll I'll entertain a motion to close the workshop meeting and we'll reconvene for the regular meeting at 6:00. So made Mayor. Motion by Councilman Ivy. Second. Second by Councilman Bell. All in favor?

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I do. We stand adjourned unanimously. Love when that happens. [Music] I think I said no once.

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6 o'clock. So, we will continue with our meetings tonight with our regular meeting. Again, today is Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025. We are in the council chambers at Washington City Hall for our regular meeting. As is our custom and our our privilege, we uh we partner with the interfaith council to start our meetings off with the invocation. So, at this time, I'd like to invite my friend and chaplain Kurt Sorwide with the Southland Bible Church to start our meeting. Well, thank you for the uh not kind words and uh I just want to say good evening to Mayor Staley and the council members and all that are in attendance tonight. I just have a short question before I open in prayer, which is probably not something I normally do, but it's a different thing. Um I was wondering who attended the Charlie Kirk Memorial on Monday night? Did anybody any of you? Nope. couple people maybe. Well, it was awesome and and it's unfortunate if you missed it. Uh the speeches were amazing and the music was good and uh it was it was awesome. Awesome. And the prayers were good, too. It wasn't for me either, but it was was a good thing. All right, let's pray. Dear Father in heaven, I thank you for allowing me the opportunity to pray with the Washington County City Mayor and City Council. I pray that they realize that they are in leadership because of your divine providence. In Isaiah 33:22, for our Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king. It

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is he who will save us. With that verse, I'd like to see I with that verse, we see that you, Lord, are the judge in all we do. We may not like that, but he does hold us accountable. Lord, the Lord is the lawgiver. Ten Commandments. This speaks to you, mayor and city council members. We also thank you, Lord, for your as you are our king. Father, we thank you for creating the government. We thank you. We thank our mayor and city council. We ask you, Lord, to guide them, to give them wisdom, discernment, and keep them safe in this crazy world. We ask for the ask you, Lord, for protection and safety for our police officers, firefighters, and all city employees. In Psalm 127:1, unless the Lord watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain. I thank you, Lord, for our founding fathers, our US Constitution, and all those who fought and died in our country's founding. We also thank you for our armed forces who fought as well, and those who sell and those who gave all so we could keep our freedom. We look forward to celebrate Veterans Day on November 11th. I ask this in the name above all names, Jesus Christ, the great I am. Amen.

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Thank you, Chaplain, for that beautiful prayer. And I will say that uh we mourn Charlie Kirk with you and we pray for for peace and healing and and the freedom that we uh that we cherish. So thank you. Appreciate you. And Bruce, thank you for being here as well. Uh, it's been my privilege this evening to host Cub Scout Pack 4802, which is two dens, a bear den and a wee below den. And this these are great great youth and uh the promise of a bright future in America. They will be uh performing a flag ceremony placing the American flag and the Utah state flag and then leading this group in the pledge of allegiance pack 4802. Attention post the colors of United States and the save Utah. Please rise. Please follow me.

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Please follow me. Speak a little louder. Please follow me. In the pledge of allegiance. In the pledge of allegiance. Ready, begin. Ready, begin. I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Two.

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Thank you. Pack dismissed. And Jordan, you got the candy.

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Good. Council, we do have need to go to close session this evening to discuss character or professional competence of of an individual. You're all aware of that. Uh that said, I will call for a motion to approve the agenda as outlined. So made I have a motion by Councilman Belliston. Second. Second by Councilman Coats. All in favor?

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The agenda is approved. Next item is announcements. This is an annual tradition for Washington City to host the uh Washington County Youth Coalition and they have a countywide uh um resolution or proclamation rather. I'll invite their advisor and the members that are here to come forward and explain uh this proclamation and to read the proclamation. Go ahead and come forward now. And if you'll uh start with just in introducing us uh tell us your names and a little bit about the coalition.

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Good evening Washington City Council. We are the Washington County Youth Coalition and as a volunteer high school students within the count county, we are here to request your support in our mission toward towards a healthy community. My name is Rusek Patel and I am a sophomore at Desert Hills High School. And my name is Emma Rudolph and I am a junior at Success Academy. Today we are presenting and would like to renew the alcohol-f free school year proclamation for the AC academic year 2025 to 2026. The proclamation reads as

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and pull that mic right to you there. You can move it back and forth as you need. Pull the mic towards you. There you go. Um where whereas the Washington County Prevention Coalition and the Washington County Youth Coalition have designated the upcoming school year as an alcohol-free year for youth sponsored by Reach for Hope and Southwest Prevention, a school year to set clear rules and expectations about no underage drinking. Whereas alcohol used by those under the age of 21 negatively affects their health and safety and thus the safety and well-being of all those living and working in the communities of Washington County. And whereas teens who use alcohol often progress to addictive behavior later in life are at a much higher risk for developing mental illness as adults. And whereas addictive behaviors and mental illness also greatly increase the risk of suicide. And whereas underage drinking is a major public health problem that negatively impacts the brain development of our young people causing a higher probability of early alcohol addiction, alcohol-related traffic incidents in brain brain impairment. And whereas under the law, it is illegal for a minor to purchase, possess, or consume any alcoholic beverage. It is illegal and punishable for anyone to sell, offell, or furnish alcohol to a minor. And whereas the mayors of St. George City, Washington City, Hurricane City, Hill City, Ivan City, and Santa Clara, in addition to the commissioners of Washington County, and the state of Utah are committed to the development of a major statewide public information campaign with the overall objectives of changing social norms regarding depression, suicide, ideation, underage drinking, and risky behaviors. And whereas we we command the overwhelming major majority of our young people who are drug and alcohol-f free. And we desire all all of our youth to be drug and alcohol-f free so as to develop in a

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healthy society. And now therefore we as mayors and commissioners hereby proclaim our support and offer an invitation to the entire community to help encourage family bonding and reduce underage drinking in order to improve the health and safety of all youth and adults in Washington County. We invite all members of our of our community including individuals, families, governments, schools, religious and civic organizations to participate in and sponsor activities that will heighten awareness regarding to the dangers of underage drinking to young pe people's health and safety and will strengthen the ability and desire to refuse to drink alcohol. And whereas we declare the 2025 to 2026 school year as an alcohol-f free school year for youth to bring awareness to risky behaviors and underage drinking and to promote the beginnings of to promote the bringings of families together. Um, I have the [Applause] Thank you for having the courage to lead out and for being here tonight and reading this proclamation. Uh, hearing this again just makes it top of mind that we all have a duty and I am going to do my part in signing this right now and handing it back to you. Okay. I will uh join my signature with the others that you mentioned.

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Thank you again, mayor and council members, for your continued support of the alcohol-free school year proclamation. As youth leaders, we also want to take a moment to speak about something that directly affects the safety of kids and families in our community, Utah's alcohol proximity laws. These laws are designed to keep alcohol establish establishments a safe distance from places where youth gather such as schools, churches, and parks. They exist to reduce youth exposure to alcohol advertising and access, and they help maintain safe f-friendly environments. Currently, the law requires a distance of at least 200 feet in a straight line between these spaces and places that sell or distribute alcohol. Recently, some groups ha have and will continue to propose changing or weakening these laws. For example, there they have there have been efforts to redesate park parking lots so they no longer count as parks just to allow a bar to be built across the street. We stand strongly in support of keeping these proximity laws in place as these protections aren't about limiting businesses, but they're about prior prioritizing safety and health for kids, families, and the next generation. Research shows that when alcohol establishments are closer to schools, parks, and neighborhoods, youth drinking rates go up. We believe that prevention starts with the environment. And this is one law that works. We're asking for the community's continued support to protect Utah's proximity laws and keep our spaces safe, positive, and free from alcohol influence in the upcoming Utah legislators general session starting in January 2026. Thank you for standing with us as we work towards a healthier, alcohol-free future for Washington County youth.

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Well said.

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Wonderful job. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. We appreciate you very much. Is there anything else from the director? Oh yeah, let's get a picture. Let's get the whole council. That would be wonderful.

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How are you doing? Doing good. Good. Thank you. Appcate.

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Thank you. Okay, continuing on with the announcement section of the agenda. I will make note that in 5 days on October 27th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the Washington City Community Center, primarily in the parking lot, we will have the annual trunk or treat extravaganza. Uh historically the lines are very long, but there's plenty of candy. So if you're hearing this, um find your costume, find the kids, and join us there. Also, as was mentioned in the chaplain's prayer, um the countywide celebration for Veterans Day continues to be in Washington City. And so on November 11th, the parade will begin at 11:00 a.m. The lineup is near the community center on 300 East. It turns right on Telegraph and goes west, ending on uh 100 West, actually ending on Main Street. And immediately following the parade, we have a brief uh patriotic program right here in Veterans Park. This is maybe the best parade of the year because not only are we honoring veterans celebrating America, but we also have all of the high school bands from across the county that come and they begin practicing up by the Washington

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Elementary School. And uh parades are just better with marching bands. And so uh tell your neighbors, tell your friends, and come uh feel good about um about America and and support our country with our Veterans Day celebration. Uh that is all the announcement that that I have. Council, is there anything that I may have missed between now and our next meeting on the 12th? Okay. The next item on the agenda is uh declarations of abstensions and conflicts. Is there anything to declare and or abstain from this evening?

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Mayor, I uh will just notice that I have um have been involved with item 5A. Um and I'll I'll elaborate more when we get into it, but I will be voting on that even though I have been involved. So, you're you're going to declare but not abstain. Correct. Duly noted. As is your right to do that. Thank you for declaring, Councilman.

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Anything else? Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda. The consent agenda consists of the approval of minutes from the council meeting of 92425 and 10825. It consists of the board audit report as detailed in your packet and it also consists of the board audit report from September of 2025 and it also includes the VAKA report which is the victim um advocate report that's required uh quarterly and so Shelley has put that in the packet for your review. Um, unless there's any brief uh clarifications on that, council, I'll turn to you for a motion of approval on that.

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Mayor, I'll make a motion that we approve the consent agenda as outlined. Thank you, Councilman Colts. You've heard the motion. Is there a second? Second. Second by Councilman Henderson. All in favor? I.

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Any opposed? The consent agenda is approved unanimously. We'll move on to item five, which is conditional use permit. Item 5A. And I will make note that um on all of the items subsequent uh that required public hearings, those public hearings have previously taken place um at the planning commission level. So item 5A, this is a conditional use permit C-25-10 for a big box retail store with a fueling station located at approximately 1720 East Grapevine Crossing. Uh the applicant is Galloway US community development director Elden Gibb will present to the council on this item. Mr. Gibb, thank you mayor. Council, good to be here tonight. On the screen is the location that we're looking at. That big red star is the pro proposed location. The zoning designation here is PCD. Retail stores are allowed in the Sienna Hills PCD with the requirement that any new commercial buildings larger than 5,000 square ft must obtain conditional use permit approval. That's why we're here tonight. The proposed site is approximately 22.8 acres in size with a building footprint of 166,000 square ft and includes a 7 bay fueling center with a small kiosk building. pull up the site plan here. You can take a look. To the left of the screen is the the gas pumps with the kiosk kind of just to the north of that. Parking proposal includes 665 total parking spaces. parking is adequate and meets

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the requirement of one parking space for every 250 square ft. The proposed building will be 29 ft tall, constructed with smooth and split face CMU along with stuckle material and cultured rock as shown on the plan. We can put on the front elevation here. This is looking from Grapevine Crossing Road. Uh similar from uh Can you zoom in on that front elevation just a little bit, Elden?

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If you were standing at Chipotle or Seven Brothers Burger looking kind of north there would be this view. Cot of rock here. Stuckco CMU block to the left. The exter exterior finishes of the building along with the provided landscaping are aesthetically pleasing. The surrounding zoning is open space to the north which is I-15 and PCD to the east, south, and west. Includes a signage plan of a pylon and wayfinding sign. If we scroll back to this first page, you can see these diamond shapes are the approximate locations of those signs going. And here are the details of those signs. The pylon sign is located near the northwest corner of the property and adjacent to the freeway. The pylon sign is 50 feet tall by 13 feet wide and includes multiple panels for other businesses in the Sienna Hills development.

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Elden, can is that sign already there? I'm trying to remember. Sign is not okay. This is a proposed sign. It looks like looks like the old one that was moved.

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Yeah, great great question. This sign will be new. The wayfinding sign is located near the southwest corner of just off of Grapevine Crossing Road and is 16 feet tall wide and includes signage project. October 15th, the planning commission reviewed this request and unanimously recommended approval as shown in the exhibits with the findings and conditions as outlined below. That concludes staff report. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have at this time.

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Council, what questions do you have for staff on this item? While you're thinking, Elden, I do have a question. Um, you know, this is a great project and I appreciate the the stone facade. It dresses it up. Um, this, you know, this this store would be a great asset to the community. Um, one thing that I've noticed, especially on these larger retail establishments like this, is on the parking area. Um, it's nice to have some some trees and some landscape in those those parking areas and medians. Do you know if that was contemplated at all or is that included and maybe I just didn't see it in

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It's in there. Mayor, did I just miss that one? Yeah, look at sheet five. It shows the parking. Okay. With the trees probably similar to like Lloyd Lowe's has perfect little islands. Yep. That's great. That's that's what I was hoping for. Thank you, Council Coats. Council, what questions or comments do you have with staff? Looks fabulous. Mayor,

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um, is there a representative here tonight? Council, do you, um, have any questions for the applicant or the applicant's representative? I'm seeing nos. No questions. Um, that said, uh, we've heard the staff report. Um, applicant, uh, you're always welcome to speak. This is your application, but it sounds like, uh, would you like to speak? You've made the trip. Uh, tell tell us your name and and and share with us what you would like.

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Yeah, Spencerus here is a representative for Galloway. Um, we are the engineer designing the project. uh very excited to be a part of it and uh yeah uh development can be very tricky. I just wanted to publicly thank Washington city staff. They've been great to work with, very responsive to our questions uh and uh very much appreciative to Elden and the staff report. Thank you. Well, they are wonderful and um they need to be recognized like that. Thank you. Um, so if this is if this conditional use permit is approved, what can you tell us about the timeline and about uh um you know your plans to to move forward?

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My understanding is that we're trying to move forward full steam ahead. Uh and so as quickly as we can get permits, we would try to get shovels in the ground and get moving on it. Okay. And are you is your engineering firm local then or are you We are from Salt Lake City. So Okay. Somewhat local. Yes. Uh we do have an office here in St. George down the way, right? Oh, that's right. Yeah, Galloway, of course. Uh, Councilman Ivy has a question.

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So, just regarding a traffic signal, um, we look 1720 east, that's probably the logical place for it, right? We've been working with staff to get that sorted out uh and working through recommendations from our traffic report and uh we'll continue to do that with staff and make sure that uh we meet all the requirements associated with uh getting them satisfied and getting their approval. That's all I have. Mayor, on that on that front facade, is that is that typical? Is that about as much as you typically dress those up? No, we've been working really hard with staff uh to make sure that we're dressing this up and making sure that it fits in with the

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We want it the front to look as nice as that jacket you're wearing. You know, we Thank you. I don't even have my pockets. There you go. That That's what we want. We need Tell us more about that. And is this the finished product or are you thinking that there's even more to do there or just your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, we've been working with staff. We're trying to bring colors and materials in that are going to make it fit in with the geographical area. Once you begin, what is the typical time frame that it takes to finish a project?

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Uh once we start breaking ground, they try to get them done within about 12 to 18 months. Okay. Councilman Henderson, Councilman Coats, I'm not gonna even ask you, Councilman Bellison. All right.

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I I did want to say something though. Um and and the reason why I decided to vote on this one where normally I wouldn't is because all parties have come together to to make this a good project and and uh and contributed significantly. I I think at the end of the day that the um and I I don't until something is announced or there's concrete in the ground, I don't take anything as is as as done deal, but assuming the the project uh you know gets over the finish line, it'll be the biggest uh boost to the general fund that Washington city has ever seen and and would likely see in the foreseeable future. So, I think it really at the end of the day, uh, the taxpayer in this city and and and the services of the city,

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it benefits the project more than anybody else. So, I'm happy to be able to vote on this one to to see this one get approved. Yeah. Well, well said, Councilman, and certainly we're all we're all pulling together on this and we've been we're we're definitely ready for this activity to happen there. So, fantastic. Uh, thank you for your comments. Um, is there anything else you'd like to add before I turn to the council for a vote on this item? No, that is all. Thank you. All right, council. Uh, now is your opportunity to have further discussion or a motion on item 5A, which is item C, conditional use permit C-25-10.

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Make a motion that we approve conditional use permit C-25-10 for Big Box retail store with a fueling station located approximately 1720 East Grapevine Crossing. I have a motion by Councilman Coats. Is there a second? Second that, Mayor. A second by Councilman Ivy. This is a condition conditional use permissible. So, we'll go a roll call vote beginning with council member Caspersonson. I Coats. Henderson. Hi. Belliston. Happy to say I.

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Uh that is approved unanimously and uh we'll look forward for that uh groundbreaking soon. Next item of business, uh we have a few resolutions. Item 6A, this is consideration to approve a resolution authorizing the Fremont Solar PPA project transaction schedule under the master firm power supply agreement with Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems and related matters. We spent about 45 minutes on this item in the workshop agenda. Power Director Rick Hansen bring us back up to speed and answer any final questions.

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Again, it's uh for the the M's Fremont Solar, our participation 7 and a half megawws. Um again, we had good discussion before. So would you just maybe for the for those in attendance in this meeting, would you just speak to the uniqueness of the solar with battery power and and how that helps just just briefly?

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Yeah, the the solar with battery allows us to shift some of the energy that's produced earlier in the day to later in the evening when the sun starts to go down or goes down. So it better matches our our load profile. I failed to mention before uh power board did approve it at their last meeting as well and recommended the council approval and it locks in a 25 rate for 25 year contract and it will be particularly beneficial in the hot summer months.

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Yes. Would you mind sharing just what we were having a conversation about earlier just like how the costs for solar compares with other sources of power?

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Sure. Uh again, we're we're in other solar projects. They're typically about in the 4.5 to 5 cents a kilowatt hour. This one with the battery is about 7 cents. uh our other like natural gas will be range from like 6 1/2 cents to 8 cents depending on how it's operated. So it fits in line with with other resources uh that has that if if it wasn't for the battery we wouldn't have brought it forward. Yeah. So thank you. Good question. Any additional questions or comments for power director?

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Uh yeah I just have a comment. I appreciate the power board and they do their due diligence really well. They It's not like they they took a couple weeks to process this with it being new with having the battery option. Uh we haven't done any of those before. So I appreciate Rick and the power board for going through that and taking the time needed on their end to make sure it was right before it got to the council. So with that said, I'm ready to make a motion if there's no other conf. Certainly. And we appreciate your service there and would concur. Go ahead, Councilman Coultz. If everyone's ready,

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I'll make a motion we approve item 6A. uh approve a resolution authorizing for the Fremont Solar PPA project transaction schedule under the master firm power supply agreement. I have a motion by Councilman Coats, a second by Councilwoman Caspersonson. We'll go roll call beginning with Council Member Ivy. I coats I Henderson. Caspersonson. And that is approved four to zero.

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Thank you. And uh I I should have uh recognized power board member Dick Saunders um who is a part of that board. So thank you for making that recommendation. And we're so used to seeing you here at meetings that sometimes we forget to recognize your your excellent work for the city. So So thank you, Mr. Saunders. Well, they're kind of in the wrong seats up in the front. Sorry.

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Item 6B. This is consideration to approve a resolution for the interlocal agreement between Washington County, Utah, and Washington City, Utah for funding to assist in the construction of the Buenav Vista Trail Phase 1. Assistant Leisure Services Director Paul Walker will present to you on this item. Mr. Walker. Okay. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um, earlier this year, we were awarded a grant from the Washington County Tax Advisory Board um for $300,000 to go towards uh.7 miles of trail. Um, this exhibit we have up here shows the area. This is the along the north side of Bueno Vista. So the yellow is the existing trails we've got now and the red is this proposed trail project that the county has given us funds for. Um it's part of a a trail project in our master plan. Um there's two phases we're asking for this funds for this first phase. This will connect the neighborhoods and commercial and and tie into the existing trails in the the grapevine to the grapevine trail head. Um, happy to answer any questions you may have on the this project or

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Go ahead, Councilman. Um, these funds that we uh collected from the county are TR TRT funds. Yes, they are. We're thankful for the legislaturator's work on that to allow those to be distributed for projects like this that are much needed and hard to fund for municipalities. So, yeah, good point. additional questions, comments. Um, actually, we'll vote on this, but don't go far because I have a few more questions for you. Um, council, I'll turn to you now for further discussion and or a motion on item 6B for the resolution with uh the county for funding of of the Buenavista Trail phase one. I'll make a motion.

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Go ahead, Councilwoman. I'll make a motion to approve a resolution for the interlocal agreement between Washington County, Utah, and Washington City, Utah for funding to assist in the construction of the Buenav Vista Trail Phase One. You've heard the motion by council member Caspersonson. Is there a second? Second. Second by council member Coats. We'll go roll call vote on this beginning with council member Coats. I Henderson. Hi. Bellison. Hi. Caspersonson. I. Ivy. That is approved unanimously. 5 to zero. Now, Mr. Walker, we're making some progress down on the historic canal trail.

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We are. Today was a great day on on the canal trail. Elden, if you can get me back up on there. We've got um we have pavement that went down today, so we're really excited. Um this trail, it's 1.5 miles. We've been working on it for a long time. There's four sections. Um three of them were paved today. So, um, this is from starting at Washington Dam Road heading south. This is some pictures of of the trail. So, this is at Silver Falls Drive looking north. The trail goes from here to Washington Dam Road and then Silver Falls looking south. It goes down to Lost Ridge where it connects into some existing trail. And there's a section on the north end uh some existing trails at Red Sands to Ute Drive is also paved. So, we're really excited to have that that happening. So, it's not open yet. Uh there's a little bit more work to be done, some signs and fences and uh two or three weeks the trail should be open.

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So, stay off it. Mayor, it wasn't open this morning and we're just fine with road base. I was Oh, sorry. Go ahead. You go ahead. I was just gonna say that was my um count like that was my report for tonight. So, thank you again for that was perfectly planned.

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Mayor, since you brought this up, I mean, but what a a lot of a lot of credit goes to all the people that worked on this project. Um I know Councilman Coats was involved in this professional setting and and Paul and Avenue Consultants just did a phenomenal job. And this is something we thought would take many more years to be honest. We thought we'd do little tiny sections and but 47 different easements that had to be collected. I mean, this was a monster project. It It turned out really great. It was over six years. We're about six years into this project to get to just get the process to work through because there's so many people. We started at 100 property owners that potentially needed work down to you're saying 47. I think it's higher, but I don't know at this point.

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We'll go higher. What to me was was remarkable is just we've had this on our radar for so long, but I remember Councilman Coat and I driving back from a from some meetings up north about a year ago and just talking about this and the acceleration, you know, with all hands on deck to acquire, you know, with uh compensation for those easements to the to the property owners and to make this happen. This will connect neighborhoods and communities and it brings great value. It also protects that 50-foot easement under which the canal is piped and buried. And so it allows us to continue to make sure that's a critical part of our water security, our water system. So well done everybody. Well done. Um Paul, rather than have you go into the Washington Dome, I know you've got a a public open house scheduled for is it November 15th?

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November 15th. Yes. Um, what I'd like to ask you to do is just come back and give a council report on the the committee's meetings on Washington Dome. I know you've you've shared this with me, but if you could plan on coming to uh either the workshop or regular meeting depending how the agenda lays out and just giving the council an update and getting council feedback before it goes to the public. Okay. If you wouldn't mind doing that, we'd be happy to do that. Any any updates at this point on that or just that we're making progress? Give us some

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We're making progress. We've done a lot of community outreach. We've had surveys and we've met with HOAs. Um we've met with the BLM. We've had some productive meetings with the BLM. Um we've got uh a layout that we think will work with some some trails. There's some paved trails and some natural surface trails. So, we're getting feedback now on the the trail layouts we've got now. So, we'll take that feedback and maybe tweak it a little bit more, but we're really happy to have this progressing. Wonderful. And then as we get closer to that November 12th, if you can get this or whatever updated in the council packet so they can have a chance to prep and be ready for that discussion. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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We'll move along to the uh section seven of the agenda, which is ordinances. Again, uh public hearings took place at the plan commission level and there was no public comment on any of these items in person or uh electronic, which we take as well. Item 7A, this is consideration to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-25-20 from RA1 to RA 1/2 located at 820 South Country Way. uh community development director Elden Gibb will present to you on this. Thank you, council. This particular location here, Gabe can help me out and get this exhibit pulled up. My screen froze. um has a general plan land use designation of a state which allows for the RA 1/2 acre lot size. The surrounding zoning to this parcel is open space to the north and west and RA1 to the east and south. The RA half request is for the purpose of developing the land into a residential development with a minimum lot size of 1/2 acre be approximately four to six lots in this depending on how it lays out. Recognizes the general plan supports this zone change application with development of the land being required to meet public utility service requirements. Commission reviewed this request on October 15th and unanimously recommended approval as outlined above and based on the following findings as stated in staff report. And I'm happy to answer any clarifying questions you may have at this time.

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Council questions for staff. And what's what's the plan for access? I mean, right now it's it's for one residential, but if we break it up, what's the plan for access? From what I've gathered, they um access freeway and then to the west for future development.

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But John, will you just speak to access management on that? I know that this is a zone change level and we detail these more in the planning phase, but you are our resident expert on master transportation plan.

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Uh thanks, mayor. Um yeah, this parcel's been and parcels lying in back behind and stuff have been kind of a tricky one. Um, this kind of began back when, uh, Mike was public works director and stuff. And with this parcel and the other ones back, the primary access has always been planned to be the access easement that comes off of Washington Dam Road. Um, just simply an access easement at this point in time back in there. Um Mike's determination was that um anything coming off of Countryway um that what we would look at as possibly granting into there would only be as a secondary access point and only if it helped to open up the entire properties back there as a true true roadway back in there and stuff. It was not ever meant to be a primary access and not as a primary access into something that would dead end or just go into a couple of lots. So that's always been kind of the deter determination when anybody has come in um looking at this property. Uh it's kind of been been our philosophy in in that with that and with with access point coming in off of country. I mean we do have the median in there. So it's kind of designed as a right in ride out only at this point in time is some great grade issues and stuff there. So those were why we would, you know, only looked at it as a consideration as a potential um secondary access that also opened up the entire area.

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So So what's the And you can tell me I'm too early, but like says lower than the sewer line, so I'm worried about the sewer. Don't know how that's going to get sewered. I guess you're don't know those answers yet. Yes, that's been some of the the why this parcel back there hasn't really gone anywhere after people have looked at it is yes it's definitely once you get any further you know closer to the river you're definitely looking at having to pump pump sewer stuff like that the costs are definitely going to be you know things that they're going to have to look at it's it's a difficult piece of property to to develop back there

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um I I don't have concerns with changing the zone, but there will be concerns when they bring back a plan with access sewer, how we deal handle all that. I don't really love the idea of adding another access on country way because probably shouldn't have never allowed any of those houses on there already because the type of road it is. It's a big road. So, well, I appreciate Councilman Co. Appreciate you, John. Thank you.

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Stay close by. Um, I appreciate Councilman Coat's comments. I mean, I I I I think he's spot on with, you know, you can apply for zoning that's consistent with your general plan, but there are other hurdles that would so just the reality that there would be other hurdles to be met in terms of access and utility. Just so the applicant is clear on that. Is the applicant or the applicant's representative here? Come on forward and uh we'll um any further questions for staff before we talk to the applicant. if you'd just state your name and then Gen Johnson.

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Gavin Johnson. And then um council, any question? Anything you'd like to say to the council on this? And then any questions for the applicant? I don't have any questions. You heard what I had to say. I mean, there's challenges and I don't know. Yeah. I I I don't have enough information to make these are just things I know that there's challenges to develop because the sewer lines on the south there and it's higher than your property. Yeah. When we talked to staff, they talked about tying into the sewer on Country Way. We haven't got far enough to see where the elevations are on that. So,

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well, that one manhole right there on your corner is 20 something feet deep. So, it's got depth, but we got to get across a lot of water lines that are the regional water lines. Um, is the is the uh canal there or is it further? The canal's right there, too. Can you point out the canal there, Elden? Yeah. Right there on the south side of the property. And right there where you Is that your house to the south where they keep some a little bit of livestock there or That's not your property. We just We just bought this um January. Yeah.

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So, we Yeah. We haven't built anything there. So I would also maybe just ask you to be mindful that that there's a master plan trail that would pop out on the country right there as well over the over the canal. So just what what you might it sounds like the council's open to the zoning which is great. That's a step forward in the entitlement process but your primary access may may need to come as some of this other area develops and off of off of the dam road. Okay. But you'll work, staff will work with you and you know your professionals there. So, okay. Thank you. Anything else for the applicant? Council Bellison, did you have something to add?

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I just, you know, when you're talking about access off country way, I mean, I I think short of having a full access off you're essent not landlock, but you know, you're at other people to, you know, be able to develop your own property. So, um, you know, this gets approved, we won't ever see this, so it'll go to the land use authority anyway. They'll have to rest. I don't see too many issues with additional questions, comments. Thank you. Thank you,

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council. At this time, I'll turn to you for additional discussion on item 7A andor a motion. I make a motion to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-25-20 from RA1 to RA 1/2 location located at 820 South Country Way. You've heard the motion by Councilman Ivy. Is there a second? I got clarification. Uh Councilman Ivy said RA 1/2 RA1 to RA 1/2. Okay, that's okay. Uh thank you. The So the motion is to change the zoning from RA1 to RA 1/2. Uh, did I hear a second? Second by Councilman Henderson. We'll go roll call beginning with Council Member Henderson. Hi. Belliston.

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Hi. Caspersonson. Hi. Ivy. Hi. And Coats. Hi. Item 7 A is approved unanimously 5 to zero. Item 7B is consideration to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-25-21 from RA1, RA5, and open space to I1 and I2. The location is 925 South 1900 East. Community Development Director Elden Gibb once again will present on this item. Mr. Gibb,

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this is just the previous approval. area. See, as mayor stated, lots of zoning going on here. Clean it up. The proposed property has a general planned land use designation of industrial. The surrounding zoning to this parcel is open space to the north, RA1 to the east, south, and west, and industrial to the south as well. The industrial zone change request is for the purpose of developing the property to a industrial development. Staff supports the proposed change and appreciates the effort the applicant and land owner have put forth for this zone change application. with development improvements of this land still needing to be completed will be required to meet public utility requirements prior to using this land in accordance with the zoning ordinances. Reviewed this request were 15th and unanimously recommended approval as outlined findings stated in staff report and I'm happy to answer any clarifying questions you may have. Council questions for Elden or staff. Councilman Bellison.

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Is the only access to this off east?

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It is off of 1900 East. It has the old canal road, too. Kind of. Oh, I I know the canal goes along there, but I don't know if they're allowed to, I guess, build a road over it for their own for their access. I don't think they are. They already are there, huh? They currently right now they drive over the canal. There's an old bridge there that they use that's been it's one of those old concrete ones before they filled it in. Okay. Build a road down the frontage. But it's still all if it's all coming up. get sometime

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this goes in. It might get closer. That uh 1900 intersection on Washington Road can get interesting. Uh if you've been down there much. I just know that. Can you define interesting right there is going to just cause some problems. Good comments. Additional questions or comments on this zone change request? Um, does the applicant have anything to add to this or would any of the council members like to speak to the applicant? Applicants representative just, you know, the routine. State your name.

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Jeff Thomas with American Consulting and Engineering. We're the engineering firm helping the client on this project. Uh, nothing to add. Just thank you for your time. Thank you to staff for their help in uh, this process. That's a good engineer right there. Council, any questions? Are they going to add any more use to it or because I know it's already being used in an industrial way? I'm not entirely clear on what their future plans are for it except to bring it into the zone and then we'll work from there with the city and with the clients.

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Good question. Yeah, we appreciate that the zoning now being conforming with the use and the future use. Further questions for the applicant's representative. Thank you, council. I'll turn to you now if there's no additional comment for a motion on item 7B. Make that motion to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-25-21 from RA1, RA5, and open space to I1 and I2 located at 925 South, 1900 East. You've heard the motion by Councilman Bellison. Is there a second? Second. Second by Councilman Coats. We'll go roll call beginning with council member Belliston Caspersonson I

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Ivy Coats Henderson that is approved unanimously. Item 7 C is consideration to approve an ordinance amending Washington city code title 9 chapter 7 section 2A youth regulations of Washington city agricultural a zone. Elden Gibb you're honor roll.

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Thanks mayor. No colorful exhibits to look at for this one, so I'll bore you with some words here. Um, Washington City Code currently allows medical cannabis in the business park industrial one and the I2 industrial 2 zones. Would allow medical cannabisies to be located in the agricultural zones as required by state law. Um, the purpose of the code amendment is to stay in compliance with Utah State Code 4-41A-15, which states, and I'll quote here, the operation of a medical cannabis pharmacy shall be a permitted use in any zone, overlay, or district within the municipality or county except for a primary residential zone. So, in essence, we're just uh asking to amend our code to comply with state law. Washington

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Oh, you're fine. Washington city staff is proposing to add the following verbiage to thees found in the Washington city code 9-7-2A, which is the agricultural zone to read as follows. And I'll quote here um medical cannabis pharmacy as defined by Utah code 26B-4-201 sees 33 and any amendments thereto and as such a medical cannabis pharmacy is licensed and regulated by the state of Utah. The planning commission did review this and recommended approval on city council. Um that concludes staff report. I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Thank you. Elder Council Bellison. So said there that um for state code you have to allow it in any zone other than residential, right? So do we already allow it in C1, C2, C3? I know we had it in industrial. Correct. Yes, we do not. That's the next item on the agenda is to allow it into the AP. The next item says AP zone, but have to amend the the C zones as well. That's what I'm asking. Yeah, great question. The way the code reads is anything in the AP is allowed in the C1, C2, or C3. So, it would be pulled up into those zones.

2:58:41 – 2:59:010

Okay. All right. Councilman Ivy. So, mayor, um, this last legislative session, there was four bills, three from the House, one from the Senate that they kind of compiled together. And I think there's some relevant information here, mayor, if you don't mind me sharing. Go ahead.

2:58:59 – 3:00:570

Um, as Elden said, municipalities may not prohibit the establishment of medical cannabis facilities, but they may impose additional regulations consistent with state law. Right now, it's not allowed within 1,000 feet of community locations like schools, churches, etc. or within 600 feet of a residential um area unless the municipality permits it. And then the the some of the changes this this year that legislation the this year's legislation changed is there's a lot more education. Um it updated the fees. You might find it interesting that um um that there's fees but there's there's not um tax but there are fees on it. Uh patient cards are required. The way to transport it um registrating registering for it. Um some other just some information um that needs to be provided now is product information like dosage side effects safe storage and if if women are pregnant then some of the side effects there and information. Um, also one of the other one of the bills also improved privacy. Um, smoking cannabis is prohibited in this bill. Medical cannabis products are exempt from tax, but there is a transaction fee with every purchase. It's about a $1.50. And then if you wanted to apply for this, patients would submit applications through the Department of Health. And there are qualifying conditions for it. And then um the compassionate use board can allow children under 18 to use it if parent or guardian will get a guardian um license to go along with that. So just some information is this being approved. I thought that was interesting. This last year there's a lot of back and forth and trying to find u they recognized that there's a good purpose for it but they want to make sure it's regulated and so that it stays in the right hands. But

3:00:55 – 3:01:240

appreciate that update councilman. It's good, good information. I think one thing to I mean I'm not really I'm in support of changing the code. I'm not necessarily in support of dispensaries, but um I didn't I didn't build the current dispensary, but I built the building the current dispensary is in. So, and you know, if you didn't know that it was a dispensary when you drove past, you wouldn't know it was there. They have rules on

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you know, use on grounds and you know, different things like that. So, I mean, I I don't know. It's just kind of the unfortunate sign of the times that they're kind of going that way, but they have a fairly clean facility over there. Other state mandate on us. Council, I'll turn to you for a motion on item 7 C. Mayor, I'll make that motion that uh we approve an ordinance amending Washington City Code Title 9 Chapter 7 section 2A use regulations of Washington City Agricultural Zone. Have a motion by Councilman Belliston.

3:02:04 – 3:02:410

If I might before the vote just it was a representative of the Utah State government that reached out and inquired as to why our city hadn't yet come into compliance. And so that's when Elden and I set out to in the compliance. Did you say when you're passing so many bills, how are we supposed to keep up with everything? We just sent them Councilman Ivy's business card, he's our liaison. We didn't do that. Uh when we read it, we became aware that it had been a couple years since that requirement was passed and decided it was time to just get something in front of the council to consider.

3:02:40 – 3:03:090

Well, thank you, Thad. Appreciate all the hard work you do and thanks for that uh additional insight into what prompted this change. Uh there is a motion on the table by Councilman Bellison. Is there a second? I'll second that. May be second by Councilman Ivy. We'll go roll call. Did we begin with you already? Councilman Bellison. Are we back? Yeah. Let's go back the other way. Council member Belliston. Hi. Henderson. Hi. Coats. Ivy. Hi. Caspersonson.

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That is approved unanimously 5 to zero. Item 7D is consideration to approve an ordinance amending Washington City Code Title 9, Chapter 9, Section 2A, Use Regulations of Washington City Administrative and Professional Zone. Elden Gibb,

3:03:27 – 3:04:120

just as you stated, this code would allow medical marijuana into the APC1, C2, and C3 zoning, amending uh 9-9-2A. Staff is proposing that the verbiage be added to that title to read medical cannabis pharmacy as defined by Utah code 26B-4-201 parenthesis 33. any and any amendments thereto and as such a medical can cannabis pharmacy is licensed and regulated by the state of Utah. The planning commission also heard this and unanimously recommended approval onto council. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

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If there are no comments or questions, I'll call for motion on 7D. I'll make a motion, mayor. We I move that we approve an ordinance amending Washington city code title 9 chapter 9 section 2A use regulations of Washington city administrative and professional home. You've heard the motion by Councilman Henderson. Is there a second? Second. Second by Councilwoman Caspersonson. We'll go roll call beginning with Council Member Henderson. Hi. Coats. Hi. Ivy. Hi. Caspersonson. Hi. Elliston. Hi.

3:04:44 – 3:05:110

That is approved unanimously. 5 to zero. Item 7E and the last ordinance of the night is consideration to approve an ordinance amending Washington City Code Title 9, excuse me, Title 8, Chapter 7, illicit discharges. New development project manager John Hinky will uh present on an item that maybe doesn't get any more exciting than this.

3:05:09 – 3:06:080

We have saved the best for last, that's for sure. All right. I've been trying to put together a great analogy as to why I'm back up here. It's football season and after further review, the replay officials in Salt Lake have decided that uh we need to add something into our ordinance. So um what we have here is um the state has asked us um to add um four more items to the allowable allowable discharges for for uh elicit discharge. Um those four additional items are irrigation water, individual residential car washing, so you can wash your car and it can go into the street. residual street wash water um which is not um water trucks running down the street wash washing the streets but like our street sweepers as such

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and then decllorinated water reservoir discharges. So the state has asked us to add that to our ordinance as we are wrapping up items in our storm water audit and so happy questions I'm happy to answer them. Is it clear as storm drain water or Councilman Henderson, with much enthusiasm, I'll I'll make a motion. I have a change. Okay. I've asked John to to bold the uh the exceptions because the funny joke is I was losing my mind because I thought they were making us not be wash our cars at

3:06:47 – 3:07:300

I misread it. I always like to call myself out. I heard it. I misread it and I let Jeremy know. Did you take a phone call from the council? No. No. I It went through the manager reached out real quick and I was like, "Oh, yeah." So, and and I apologize. I just I just feel like they keep stretching and stretching and stretching what the state is doing and I was afraid they were to that level already. So, it made me nervous. So, I know you're doing a good job, John. I apologize. Just give it some time. That's what I'm afraid of. No, I I appreciate the feedback and and and the council support. So, thank you. All right. You will note that you can't dump your water bottle in there yet

3:07:29 – 3:08:120

for it to be on the list of things you can't do on that. Soon they're going to say I can't step on my own grass because it might have mud on it or something. I don't know anymore. Let's get that motion on the table. Councilman Henderson. Mayor, I make a motion that we approve an ordinance amending Washington City Code Title 8, Chapter 7, elicit discharges. Have a motion to approve by Councilman Henderson. Is there a second? I a second. Got a second by Councilman Bellison. We'll go roll call beginning with Council Member Coats. Hi Caspersonson. You seem to be thinking about

3:08:10 – 3:08:410

We're all plugging our nose on this state over reach. Hi Ellist. Hi Henderson. And and five unenthusiastic I votes make that yet uh unanimous approval. Um we'll move on to the next section of the agenda. Item eight, a report of officers from assigned committees. And council member Caspersonson, I'm really sorry that we kind of stole your thunder earlier. Would you like to start tonight?

3:08:38 – 3:09:010

Well, I think he does a fantastic job at sharing my reports from my committees. I think he actually does better than I could do. So, I always appreciate the pictures and him being willing to share. Should we call him back up? Is there anything else we need from Paul? Um, should we, Paul? No, you don't have to.

3:08:59 – 3:10:150

I think he did good. I will share though that um remember I told you that we went and visited the police station with the class that I'm teaching. All the kids are from Washington City and so we also had to go f um visit the fire station. And so we held chief, the fire chief made the kids hold a boat to which place they liked better. And so it was tie. It was a tie. The kids, some said that they like both, but there was kids that, you know, had definite some like police and some like [Laughter] I just want to share though, I just appreciate all of our staff and everyone was so kind and respectful to the kids and just, you know, sharing about I just appreciate them taking the time, you know, both places. we were were treated so good and the the kids just loved it and thought it was the coolest thing and it just I think it's just awesome to be part of let let our um you know our kids who live here get to see you know some of the things that those who work here do

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have you thought about sending them with the streets department with uh you know John I mean you think police and fire are exciting okay we'll come in next. Um Jeremy has offered but yeah, he has offered but I asked them if they got to it and they're like we'll go with council member Ivy next.

3:10:38 – 3:12:350

Uh mayor, a couple of things um that the two main items pertain to DTEK and COG that we had just yesterday. Um there was a lot of discussion in our meeting regarding SB310 which is the um transportation utility fee amendment that Senator Braml brought forward and there was a lot of good discussion about how this can help save money for municipalities and counties in utilizing this because what we're what you try to do here the overall idea is that you implement this fee that pays direct amount that it all goes to whatever the big project is and so you don't bond for it, you don't pay interest on it and it just gets it paid off kind of at the point of rather than interest and all those things. Um it was very it was good interesting conversation. One of our other cities has already implemented it. They had some good feedback. Um but the the point is that they avoid bonding and interest and things like that but saves taxpayers money. But what was really interesting about it is that everyone stressed the importance of putting the right message out to the citizenry so they understand what it is. It's not an additional tax or anything what it is. They pay for it either through you know other means but it it makes it so it just they pay a lot less and there was some pretty strong numbers as to how much money would be saved. But we'll have that discussion going forward. I just wanted you to be aware of it. That was transportation utility fee and we can talk about it offline if anybody would like to talk about it some more. But the other item is is on incog the Washington city requested funding for the George Washington Boulevard corridor um to complete a road dedication plat and acquire no access agreements with the owners the ramps of the Southern Parkway. the uh the board um agreed to that money in the amount of 100,000 and we agreed that um we would not go over that amount and if we had money that was

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not spent then we would deobligate it back to the to the COG fund and uh really good meeting. You know, we're well represented. I had a great conversation with Blake and and his staff and it's great to be able to work with good people that are dedicated and and want the best for our citizens and save money and things like that. But the last thing I'd mention, mayor, is that last night as I was driving home, I got a call from a resident and um I they they had had a a waterline break and they just were kind of asking for direction and so I gave them the emergency number. They got the online um people notified and by the time I I made a quick errand and and headed over just to make sure that they had gotten there, there was one of our employees in the road turning the water off and the others were over. Uh the water box had broken on the city side and was spraying water about 20 ft in the air, but they were able to get that box pulled and get it repaired. And I was amazed to hear the comments of the neighbors that had gathered because of the bright lights. And you know, we're just all standing there and trying to wonder what's going on. And and everyone's saying that boy, they're really efficient. They just got out. They were able to pull a box out of the ground without even tearing up their yard. and they were able to put in a new valve assembly, a new a new um arc where you put the meter in between and got them going again. They went they ran from house to house and notified the neighbors that the water would be shut off. Then they ran back afterwards and told them the water was back on and you know I kind of stayed out of the out of it. But it's just was really a proud a proud proud moment for me when I see these young men and one of them was Kaden. I don't remember the other man's young man, his name, but it was really well. They showed up in two different trucks. They were prepared. They parked initially right where they needed to be. They went to work. They had it fixed within probably an hour, hour 25 minutes. And it was it's just an example of what happens sometimes when we're not watching. You know, these on call people, they have they get called out

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all times, the day and night, no matter the weather, the conditions. And just a shout out to public works and we understand that our electric department there's a lot of other departments get called out for emergencies but we appreciate the good work and not only in this case what impressed me more than even their work was how professional and respectful they were and their great mannerisms with the citizens and stuff. It was just a a really good experience. So just a quick shout out for that mayor. Thank you. Councilman, a question for you on DTEK. Has there been I know you served on a subcommittee in regards to uh trail signage. Has there been any more discussion on that or any updates there?

3:15:08 – 3:15:530

So that was the subcommittee that I served on with the trails signage was approved and they're looking for some funding that would not pull it from from no funds. They're thinking that they that we can find that. Um, we have another meeting in about 10 days and we'll talk about the funding, but we're hoping to find money for that because it fits some grants that are directly aligned with being able to put up the signage that we that we want to put up. So, which is, if you don't haven't heard, the the county would like to have signage on the trails that are all correlated. This doesn't one sign for St. George and one for Hurricane, another one for St. George where the rules are kind of similar and they look the same so people can find their ways around a little better.

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Okay. Thank you, Councilman Colts. Nothing to report tonight. Mayor, Councilman Henderson, I don't have anything, mayor. Thanks. Councilman Bell, you need to uh neither do I. We'll move on to the next section on the agenda. Uh section 9, city manager report.

3:16:08 – 3:18:060

I'm going to report on some other things that my staff did, but but I get to report on them, so that's great. Signal at 500 West Telegraph. I think everybody saw the poles are up now. So, the light should be functional around November 1st. It's going to be kind of nice to see that done and the barrels moved. U the water line replacement project that we've been working on that the tanks that that come down from our wells and tanks up near Sentente is finished. So, that was a tricky project because of the timing that they had to do make sure they did it within a certain amount of time because of our wells and our tanks and all those things. They were able to get that finished and and it's now operational. And then we saw tonight, I thought it was really, really nice, the new the new country, the old landfill road overlay will begin at the end of this month. They're again going to lay down the fabric and then three inches of overlay. That should extend the life of that road 7 to 10 years. But that's a road that's already beyond its useful life. So, we're trying this to see if we can get a little more out of it. I think it's a it's a Washington way to try to beg, borrow, and steal and see what we can keep running for a little while. But that again, that was a collaboration between the county, the landfill, and Washington City. And then the last one, we want to acknowledge the donation from Star Nursery. They brought in 25 beautiful palm trees if anybody goes down to the to the wheels park right now and looks at that and they donated all those trees. They're 10 feet tall before they even hit the the palms. So those are very expensive, pricey trees. Our original plan called for three-foot palm trees, which I'm told they grow about a foot a year. I'm not sure mine grow that tall. So you're looking at least 10 years of growth that we were able to accelerate by by that donation. and we're appreciative of Star Nursery and and their support of our park. They told us they would do that years ago and they remembered and and stepped up and um I'll I'll write a thank you letter or have the mayor write a thank you letter in the name of the city, the mayor, the city council and really appreciative of their partnership and the Wheels Park's coming along. So that's my report. Mayor,

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thank you Jeremy. I I love that donated palm trees on a park built on donated land. That is the Washington way. Uh we do have need to go to close session for character or professional competence of an individual. I'll call for a motion to that respect. A motion by Councilman Bellison, a second by Councilman Coats. All in favor? I that is approved 5 to zero. We will move into close session.

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