Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Monday, June 9, 2025
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Government Body
Planning & Zoning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning & Zoning Commission
Location
Washington, MO
Meeting Date
June 9, 2025

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10 sections

0:10 – 2:100

Shut my stuff up here. That was bad. I'm being really careful being old in my feet. I don't want to be one of those. Call the planning and zoning commission meeting for Monday, June 9th, 2025 to order. What year? Yeah. What year is it? Roco Gonzalez here. Mark Lener here. Mark Pian here. Tom Hmar here. Mayor Hegedorn here. John Borgman here. Chuck Watson here. Chad Briggs here. Carolyn Wit here. Mike Wood here. Sharers here. Please rise for the pledge please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. First item on the agenda is the minutes from the prior meeting. Motion to approve. Second. All those in favor? I. Any oppose? So move. Moving on to item number three, file number 25601, Edward Schmemell's long-term rental at 902 Missouri Avenue. Okay. Good evening. So, we have this um commercial district C1 with this use of a short-term rental which is allowed by Wright. However, they are wanting to kind of switch to long-term rental um for various reasons. And in our code, we do allow for long-term residential use in a C1 district if it meets certain requirements. So, the building has to be older than 50 years. Um, it has to have

2:06 – 4:040

or previously been used as a residential um structure. So, I did some digging around in Franklin County. It is considered a residential structure. It is greater than uh 50 years. And so we're looking at this as a possible uh viable use. The zoning, as you can see here, the corridor is C1, but east and west is all R1B. So this is historically a residential neighborhood that has changed obviously with the expansion of Franklin Street to the highway. So they have taken old houses and turned them into commercial um buildings. So, with that um kind of mix of uses, it does it's not an out of character use for this um this structure. And as you can see from this picture here, there's a long entrance, so it's not like they're going to back off and back up onto 47. There's five parking spaces, and as far as I know, there isn't any issues with the short-term use. So long-term use would have in my mind less of an impact because you don't have like large uh groups of people coming to this um property. So this is uh again uh special use permit. So if there's any um caveats or any requirements you want to put on this restrictions, you can. And if there's a problem, we can always come back and look at um rescending this uh special use. So, the applicant is here too if you have any questions about that. Any questions or comments from the board first? Yes. Just one question. Is that a single residential rental unit or is that a multif family? Um I don't It's

4:01 – 5:560

one. Okay. I Yeah, I haven't seen the design, but it's a single family. Okay. Yes. Um, I know that that building's had a lot of work done to it by different people. Uh, but what do you plan on doing to make it ready? Please introduce yourself. Yes. Um, Edge Schmouths. So, just a quick story. So, we we bought this property uh I'm going to say three years ago and it was in pretty pretty tough condition. Um, I think it had been started several times throughout the years. Start and stop. Start and stop. So, we, you know, we kind of bought this piggybacking off some other things north that were supposed to happen and we thought this would be a great uh short-term rental, you know, property and u some other things didn't work out. So, this it's really been sitting vacant and not not performing at all. So, we thought, well, let's just see if we can lease it out. And we think that that's going to be the best use for us. Um, it is one unit. It's a it's a fourbedroom house, four bed, four bath. So, any other questions or comments? Board, do you plan on making any other improvements to the place? No, we do not. So, that pretty much look like it does there. Okay. Yes. I haven't looked at it that close. I guess it's in pretty good shape because it's had a lot of work done. Oh, it it's totally rehab. Yeah, it's everything's brand new now. Yeah. Mhm. Pretty nice to your standards then. Okay. We were pretty shocked that it it didn't quite perform as a guest house, honestly. Yeah, I've seen your work and it's nice. So, I That's right. I'll go along with that. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak on this? If not, any other questions, comments by board?

5:57 – 7:530

I'll make a motion. Motion. I'll second it. First and second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? So moved. Good luck with it. Moving on to item number four, file number 25604, reszoning. I'm sorry, preliminary plat 509 and 511 West Second Street. and goes along with item number five, file number 25605, reszoning 509 and 511 West Second Street. Sarah. Yeah. So, um, not to sound like a broken record, but here we go again. That's a another R2. We got a, um, situation that has was supposed to have a condo association. It doesn't. Um, it makes it really hard to sell half of a R2 without a condo association. Um, it also is more expensive insurance-wise and our applicant can speak to that too. So, we're asking to uh preliminary plat it and change the zoning and then they have just been approved for a lot size variance. So, 511 on the preliminary plat. You can see that that's going to be short about 163 feet or something of that nature. Um, so orund sorry 100 yeah 163 square ft. So it's just a line straight down the middle. Makes it real easy, real clean. It doesn't make any sense that they jagged that that lot line and and the board of adjustment agreed and they approved that variance for that. So we're just here to get your approval so we can move on uh so we can get this uh cleaned up as well for these property owners. And you have the water and sewer. Yep. Yeah. and the the plot the final plot will have the verbiage on there that you know if they share a sewer line that you know they are both

7:50 – 9:480

responsible for that. So that's just goes without saying now. I need to abstain from this vote. Okay. Any other comments, questions by board? Is there anyone audience that would like to speak on this except Mark? Of course. We uh prepared the plat. Mark, please introduce yourself. Mark Frankenberg, BFA, downtown Washington. We prepared the plat and as Sarah said, it didn't make sense to bend the line and give somebody a sixoot driveway instead of a full driveway. Uh we do have the note on there if you look at note number four about the water and sewer. So we're just asking for approval here. Nothing's really changed since the original condo except from what I'm learning doing these uh the last four months. Insurance is cheaper. You can get better rates on your loan. So we'd appreciate a yes vote. Thanks Mark. Thank you. Anyone else that would like to speak? Any other questions or comments by board? I entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Second. First and second. All those in favor? I I I guess we're doing just the uh preliminary plat. Is that correct? Not do resoning. Yes, we're doing the resoning. Is it not? It's the next one, right? Do the plat first. I'm sorry. I should stay next. You can't have one without the other. Yeah. John, you okay with that? Yes. Yes. Okay, we'll go ahead. All those in favor. Any opposed? So moved. Again, I abstain on that one. Okay. Thank you.

9:45 – 11:450

And then the reasonzoning entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? So moved. Okay. So, the current zoning district is the R2 overlay. Um, and that's fine for two family, but to do the zero lot line, it needs to be R1C. As you can see to the north, same setup, they're all R1C. So, I can imagine in about a couple years, all of that will be R1C. So, we're just looking to get that uh zoning change to uh meet the code for the uh the correct uh type of um lot size and and setbacks and stuff like that. So, needs to be R1C otherwise it'd be out of compliance with the preliminary plat. I think we already approved it. Oh, did you? Yeah. Oh, I missed that. We're pretty fast tonight. You were fast. You got me. So, we approved that. Moving on. Sorry. Moving on to item number three. I had a script. I had to get through this. I distracted you, Sarah. I'm sorry. Yes, you did. I'm sorry. Item number six, file number 25607, preliminary plat 803 Fairview Drive. Sarah. Okay. So, we have another situation where it they just went through board of adjustment for a lot size variance. This uh lot at 803 Fairview Drive. uh just a little smidge because uh when they when they went to sell their property, they found out that historically there's been an overlap of these properties. Um so Six Scenic Drive was the first piece of property, first piece of land that it was not platted per se in a subdivision and then as the rest of the property of the land was subdivided, it was done incorrectly. So we have that overlap. So now they're needing to fix that. So the the change

11:42 – 13:400

is very small. That's that little red wedge you see there. So that's what this property 803 is going to lose in this preliminary plat. Um again, they got the variance for the lot size. So we're good there. Everything else meets the code for the zoning. So with this um with this approval, they'll just have a nice clean plat that they can now uh pass on to the next homeowner. So, you're saying the red wedge is losing off of lot 15A. That's the fifth Fair View, correct? Yeah, that little red wedge is what 15A is going to lose. Okay. So, it's going to come down a little bit and then um square everything up like it should be. Any other questions or comments by board? Anyone in the audience that would like to speak on this again? Mark Frankenberg, Bishop Frankenberg downtown. What happened here? This started back in the 60s when CO was done. John Cochran survey disc. Now, James's house was here was in the 50s, you know, it was before all this, before anything was developed. I believe it was an original Duncan house and there was an overlap of about 6 feet. Nobody addressed it. Nobody addressed it when Rainree Bend was done. Nobody addressed it when the survey was done in 2004. Nothing got addressed. So now we're just trying to clean it up and it it's a mess. Uh during the resoning meeting, I actually had the people to the east come up and say, "Hey, we want to straighten ours out, too." So expect me up here again. We're just trying to get this straightened up so Charles can sell his property. Any questions, comments by board Mark? Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else like to speak on this?

13:41 – 15:390

Any other discussion, comments? I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Second. Second. Second. All those in favor? I. Any oppose? So move. Other business. So, I'm sure you all are aware that I am now leaving. So, next Tuesday is my last day with the city. Um, Darren wanted me to set your mind at ease and let you know that he will take over. And so, also set as a fin. That's what he said. Yeah. So, yeah, he will be taking over in the interim and they are working on replacing me. They have a job the job posted. they have applications that have come in. Um, so it's just a matter of a couple months and you'll have fresh blood in here and yeah, and I'm creating the most robust SOP that I never had. So hopefully all those mistakes I learned will be in that SOP. That's how you learn a lot when you get dropped into something. Yes, it is amazing. Yeah. So, but I will stay. Yeah, we wish you well. We'll miss you. We will. Well, I'm not leaving Washington. So, I think your res still in a couple, you know, months to a year. I plan to be more active, but, you know, it's going to take some time to get acclimated to everything and make my own new mistakes and learn from those and, you know, do good things. So, good. I definitely learned a lot and I appreciate you all for being patient with me and my computer skills. Appreciate your time here. Absolutely. Yeah. It was not an easy act to follow. No. And uh she's really did a good job. Yeah. Really? Which leaves a hole? Yeah. Anything else? Tenacious. Was going to figure it out.

15:37 – 17:350

So, is there any other business you want to announce? Is No, that was it. Well, we have street connectivity that we're still working on that's not ready for code change, but we were um meeting with a a committee of developers and planning and zoning, which some of you were there in the meetings um and staff, and I think we've come to a compromise. Uh we've then met with more staff uh that weren't in the the committee meetings and discussed again compromises and how they felt about it. and it seems like we're on the right track to get um some code revisions for our street connections in our new subdivisions. So, be expecting that. Um and then I did present last month some C2 overlay and C3 code revisions, but because of the quick change, I decided I was going to let the new person take that on and uh Darren can walk that whoever that is through that process. So, yeah. Other than that, now I don't have anything else to All right. to talk about. Can we get your number for speed dial in case we have any questions? Well, I think it's the city hall number in New Haven. I think that's I have your number. Yeah, she'll have my number. It would be hard to miss that because uh yeah, it'll be me over there. I have two staff in the office. So, yeah, I won't be able to hide. I promise. Thank you very much. Yes. All right. I'll entertain one last motion. Motion we adjourn. First a second. Great. All those in favor? I posted. So move 16 minutes. That's not bad. That was pretty good. Three agenda items. That's not bad. My dad's old what they're at right now.

17:33 – 18:000

Right. We got two people working out with Edvelopment. That's better for the city. [Music] Can't protect everything. Can't fix. I know how we say. That's what they say. It's like

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