Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

for you. Steve, that's big. It's a big lie. Most press has arrived. Did you have a nice Mother's Day yesterday? Dad, was fine. It was good for her, I'm sure. Mhm. Went to my sisters. That's nice. The weather was beautiful. Oh, we couldn't have had a better day. We're outside on this whole time. That's terrific. Except everybody's here. Almost. Almost. Good evening, sir. Mark, how you doing? Greetings. Call the the meeting of the May 12th,

City of Washington Planning and Zoning Commission to order. Roll call. Roco Gonzalez here. Mark Clener here. Mark Pianc here. Tom Holdm. Hagadorn here. John Borgman here. Chuck Watson here. Chad Briggs here. Carolyn Wit here. Mike Wood here. Sarah Scheme here. Please rise and join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. First item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes from the April 14th meeting. I would entertain a motion. So move. Second made by motion made by Mike, second by Carolyn that we approve the minutes of the April 14th. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it. Item number three, file number 25-0501, Preliminary Plat Poppy's Place, 540, 5415, and 5475 Highway 100. Sarah, yeah, it's good evening. Um, this is this came to me early April. We've gone through a lot of uh conversation about this preliminary plat for Poppy's Place. As you can see, it looks like there's three lots there. Um the understanding was that it was three lots because there was a um kind of like a taking by MDOT that dissected that lot, but in fact it's still deed as one lot and they are wanting to sell out that section that

says lot one there. There's actually um a a business there, Accessories Unlimited, has been there for a long time. I think 2001 if I'm correct from my report uh they were they had built that and had been running a business there before it became city uh within the city limit. So they are now wanting to turn that over and sell that. So we have to go through this process of a subdivision. So you'll see there's going to be actually just two lots with that both commercial. Um again here's the aerial view. Lot one is 4.05 05 acres with that current use Accessories Unlimited. And then the uh lot two would be a total of 22.42 acres. Uh it just has a 1500 square foot shed on there. Um I think it's just storage. I'm not sure if they have any plans really to develop anything there, but um all of this was in place before it was annexed into the city. So, we are looking at two pieces of property that currently have no water or sewer connected to it. Our subdivision code requires that any anytime you do a subdivision, you're required to either u make the connections to city water and sewer or to post bond in the future um to get those those improvements made before you can do a final plat. Uh they can't sell that lot one without a final plat. So, we're looking at some options for them. Um, so I'll show those to you, present those to you. But the, uh, final decision, hopefully you'll prove that we will not require them to do any connections to the water and sewer because it is a pretty severe hardship to get that done. So, I know the city is not inclined to extend water and sewer just for those two lots when there really isn't any development happening

there. Um, so our sewer connections, so you can see I have a snippet of a measurement tool that I use in GIS. So if we're looking at connecting sewer uphill to Fifth Street, uh, that's about 1,500 ft going uphill to the closest manhole. Um, and that's over by Bank of Washington. And that's from lot one. Uh, and that's the one with accessories unlimited on it. So that was the purpose of my measuring from lot one. Uh if we go downhill, we'd have to go to lift station at Recreation Drive. That's over 2,200 ft. So again, that's quite uh the traverse through MDOT right away. So that would be another issue there. And then if you're looking at your water connections, we're pretty much doing the same thing. We're either going uphill 1,200 feet uh to the nearest water line that goes across Fifth Street. So, it's on that um on that uh west corner there on Fifth Street or back downhill to the nearest water line which is a little bit closer but still over 1,000 ft uh distance for water line. So, that's quite the expectation to say hey you know build your water line and your sewer lines to the you know nearest uh city maintained um connections there. So, we discussed it at length and there was a lot of uh back and forth at the end. U my staff report originally went out a week before we made some changes that said that they would have to connect in the future, but we are not going to require that. And here's a section of the code that basically says that the planning and zoning commission if they find that there's extraordinary hardship and difficulties to do that that we would provide that variation and that's would be uh written out verbiage on the plat. So you have a new plat in front of you. It's a little hard to read because it's in tabloid. The print is

pretty small. Um I had to dig out my reading glasses so that I could read it. But basically, we're saying that they're not required to connect to water and sewer on that plat. Um, and so that's what we're hoping today, that you would allow for this subdivision without requiring them to make those connections. Uh, the applicants are here too if you have any questions about further use or any other um things that you may think of. I think Steve Kendzel is in the audience. Were were they allowed were they allowed to build that building on there without water and sewer connection? It was before it was in the city before it was in the city. Okay. So they were on so that accessories unlimited has a well and has a septic system. Perfect. And it's not I mean we have a few situations like that in the city where we have you know property with wells, properties with septics. So, I mean, it's not like totally abnormal, but yeah, our subdivision rules do say you must connect when you subdivide. This is kind of one of those weird subdivisions that it's not meant for development. Um, so there really isn't a need uh the city doesn't see a need to extend water and sewer and to put that on them to connect would be astronomical. Steve Kinsel for the record. Um, what has prompted this is one of the occupants of the building in lot one is wanting to buy the building. So, the usage is going to be what it has been for more than 20 years. Um, and and there's two renters in there. All they do is basically store stuff. So, there is a toilet in there. There is water, but there's not an active production of product or anything like that. And it may be that that the buyer would like to expand the building a little bit. Um, that would be up to her to do at that point, but this is what the building's

been used for since Jim Craft built it. Might even have been 30 years ago, quite frankly. Um the real problem is further problem is the slope that has come from the highway is you're having to lay water or sewer in fill rip wrap rock that's already there that's being used to stabilize the highway. So the ability to get MDOT to approve that is pretty remote at this point to say the least. Um, so that's what's happening on the left. And so what happened is when you see those two kind of cutouts, that's where MODAT actually had to run the supporting retaining all the way down heavily into near the creek. They actually moved that creek a little bit up. That's Betty Parantier's property that the creek actually got moved a little bit to the north or I think would be to the north um for MDOT to be able to even get that in. So to w run a water sewer line, it's run across on the other side of the highway. So you're either going under the highway or you're going way uphill. Um it's not reasonable for the city to bring it down to the property to tap in. would not be reasonable for the property owner to go up. The property to the east um lot two is at this point tenatively going to be uh inherited by one of the grandchildren and one of the children. They have no immediate use for that property. They have no immediate plans for that property. Um they had an idea that that really wouldn't have flown. They talked to Sarah about it. I talked to Sarah about it. Um, you know, it was going to be like storage of RVs and that kind of

stuff. It's not zoned properly for that. Um, so they have no immediate use. It was just grandpa's property and the grandson would like to have it. There is water that comes across the highway just a little bit to the left of that little building, that storage building. Um, so they could tap that with no problem. So when I was working with Mark to work through the language here for the plaque, what we did is we said on the one to the east that there would not have to be any obligation on the city to bring the water to the property or sewer. Same thing with the property owner. On the one to the right, we carved out to say if there was a development of any kind, water is right there. So they would have to tap to the water. We're not trying to duck around that. But the sewer is not. And it's the same problem with MODOT in terms of a lot of the slope there to even get on their easement would be tough. And there's a different property owner between there. You got to go all the way down to N Sports to get to the sewer. So, um it just it isn't reasonably practical for anybody to do it. In fact, the sewer line runs along the highway on the other side all the way down close to N Sports and then comes across from there. So, we're not proposing any secret development here or anything else. Um, going to keep using the one property for what it's always been used and the other one to be inherited by some of the heirs. So, that's and the language and I apologize there was a little mix up. The engineers thought they didn't really have to put the language on until after this meeting and before the city council. There was a request that we get it up here and uh quite frankly the engineer and I fumbled the ball after Mark and I reached an agreement on Thursday. I thought I'd have it up here sooner. So I apologize

to all of you for that. Um and so but that's basically what it is. City doesn't have to do anything. Property owners particularly on the one side to the east if they were going to develop that. Um, and if it's just a one toilet type situation, they would put in a septic system. If they want to do anything more that takes sewer, they're going to be back having to ask how to get that accommodated, but there's no immediate plans for that. Who, Steve, who owns that little wooded area between their property and in sports? Is that all part of um or is that somebody else in there? I'm not sure who owns that quite frankly. Is that a I mean this the back of the in sports area is where that sewer comes in. Trust. Could you go straight across west? It's the pariteer trust. So it's kind of loops around that property. So, is that still does that creek loop up through there and stuff or I Yeah, follows along there and then on the back side of Well, it's just curious, but has no bearing on what you It would take it would take some doing to connect the properties. Um that I'm just referring to the one to the east is all the, you know, they would have an option of Yeah. getting to that easier than if they were connecting to the back side of the in sports. But that's what I mean. That's not an easy one either. There's a pretty I don't know if it's a creek or a ravine. Sarah probably knows that better than me. The boy, what do we It's a creek. Yeah, pretty sure. I don't know. I like I said offh hand I don't know how far that loops up there and stuff, but still. Any other questions for Steve from the commission? Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Sarah, do you know lot too is a flood plane, isn't it? Yes, there is flood plane there. So,

there's not a lot of options. That's what I thought. So okay, any questions from commissioners? I mean the only question is given the verbiage I guess at what point would we then require let's say if they do try to truly residential like at least with the commercial try to expand it into I don't know a big box store or something let's say what would we then require at what point do we require sewage the water? Um, well, I think development wise, and Charles could probably speak to this, that might be pretty arduous considering it is flood plane. I don't know how much they could develop on there to be honest. They would have to raise it quite a bit. Right. It's basically in order to get it to a point where they even would need sewage and water. Yeah. They would have to do a lot of a lot of expense. If if they were going to come in like in your example with a big box store at the time they would apply for a building permit that would have to be addressed at that point. What are you doing with the way so there's some checks and balances in place to where we'd get something developed. Yeah, there's a lot of things that would happen before that would even but they know up front where it's at right now anyway is is what we're getting at. I could add one more thing to answer that to develop that you also have to have two entrances depending upon the usage for fire protection and police protection. And so that was part of the problem in the condemnation was the crafts had two entrances, but basically that slope and the condemnation for that square that's hard to tell here on this particular one, but between the two properties that terminated that ability to have that second exit. So, I think there's going to be a tremendous limitation on anything that can go in there. I'm not going to tell you there wouldn't be something, but I can tell

you that it won't be a big box store. There's a way to do it elevating the building and having your parking in the flood plane because we looked at that years ago, but you had to have you have a lot of people down there. You got to have two two entrances. There's a 40 foot entrance, but just one for each of these tracks. And I can tell you it's impossible to combine them now because modat took that much property. So, we don't connect anymore. It did, but we don't anymore. So, I don't see that being a real realistic. There may be some use. I don't know what it is, but there could be some use. But, it's going to have to be something where the police and fire or the code will accept just one entrance. Got it. Thank you. Any other comments, questions? Yes, I have a question. So, if the city decides, you know, to go ahead with this and Steve says that there's no, you know, deadlines or limitations on when there may that property may be developed. I mean, does the city need any kind of guarantee on on that as a timeline? I think the originally there was a bond that was supposed to be posted but that's what we're anything talking about anything can happen I think but u you know eliminating that requirement correct yeah that's the code says if it's reasonably available they have to make the connection to the water in the sewer and if it's not reasonably available then they have to post a bond to secure the connection to water and sewer when it is available what they're suggesting and what Sarah has said is it it is neither reasonably available nor is it likely that it will be at any point in the foreseeable future. So they're asking for a variance from the requirement that they they either

connect or they make the payment of the bond. Like I said with to Rockco's question, if there is some development that occurs there at some point in the future, they're going to have to come back and they're going to have to address at that point how are they going to handle the water. So that would be the timeline then. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? I would entertain a motion. Motion to approve the variance. And I'll second it. Motion by Ro, second by Mark to approve the variance for Well, this include the preliminary platinary plat with a variance, I think, is what we're going to try to do, right? Okay. Sorry. Is that okay with you guys? Motion preliminary plat accept the preliminary plat with the variance described. Mhm. All those in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Eyes have it. Thank you. Thanks. Appcate. Thanks Steve. Okay. Item number four file number 25 0502 special use permit 600 East Fifth Street Community Center. Okay. So, we were down here not too long ago. We were looking at a special use permit for a intensive outpatient facility, which y'all approved in September. Everything has been going so swimmingly that they are coming back and asking if they can also open a community center to provide coffee and other activities for the the same people that they service. So they have a little bit more of a a community space as opposed to a therapy space. Um this will be not on the fifth street but on below so below this building next to it. Um there's some space available that they were working on uh renovating. So I

think they're still working on that to get their occupancy inspection done. Um there is parking in the back as we talked about before, but most of the recipients of their services don't drive or they get transport, you know, from the program. So they would just, you know, come together in a group. Uh I know that the applicant is here and she can speak more to the um process of getting out the uh services to the people, but that's what we're here for is to expand that use and to offer a little bit more. Good evening. Okay. State your name, please. Tanya Henkins and your address. I'm sorry. And your address. Oh, I'm sorry. I have a house at 300 Burnside Street in Washington. Thank you. Yes. Uh, so we swimmingly is a good word, Sarah. Um, we have pro providing recovery housing in Washington. We have a men's house on Fifth Street and a house on Burnside and two in Augusta. And as Sarah mentioned, we have an outpatient program for our participants at 602 East Fifth Street. So we give outpatient groups from 1 to three Monday through Thursdays. and what we were doing. So, the whole I don't know how much you guys know about like successful recovery from substance use disorder, but it's about community and connection. So, we've been doing things in our program beyond recovery housing and beyond treatment, which is having like fellowship meals once a month in that outpatient space, but there's just a little sink and we all bring a potluck and I and there's no place to clean chili spoons and we've actually just outgrown that upper space. So, Donna Wilson's the property owner there. She and I have a great relationship. And when I first looked at the property for the outpatient building, I saw this space in the basement and I could immediately visualize a coffee house in

the front room and then a dining hall in the back for us to meet and have 12step meetings. And I'm just going to say it looks amazing. We're having an open house. If you guys prove it, you're all welcome to come to it. But, um, it's a needed space for the work that we're doing. We have really good successful outcomes in our uh housing program. The average length of stay, the last time we populated data was seven months or more. And we have a lot of people continuing their recovery once they leave us, which is great. And um it's just another way to meet the needs of our participants and really open it up. So, we'll have 12step meetings in that space in the dining hall, but we really plan to open it up to anybody in the 12step recovery community who would like to attend a a meeting. So, similar to I don't know if you're familiar with the AA club right here on Jefferson, the Gold Cup. Anybody familiar with that? It's right across the street. But, well, then Alcoholics Anonymous is doing a very good job with the anonymous part. Okay. Commissioners have any questions for the occupants? Nice. This is not open to the general public, is it? So, it's a great question. Um, we do love being generous and open to like the coffee house when God gives us a resource. I don't always know how to use it right off the bat. So, it will be us for for us initially, but they just opened up a bookstore on the top and I I can foresee in the future if if it grows it being open up to the to the public also, but not at this time. And you're just in the lower level of that 600 building. Is that correct? Well, we also occupy 602 East Fifth Street in the next building. It's all in the same building, but it's caddy corner. So the outpatient building's on the upper and then this is on the lower on the opposite side below the book

bookstore. Is that what picture you have up here Sarah? Yeah. So I um as you can see in this picture you got Wilson and Company insurance and so the 602 is just kind of attached to that and then this is the lower level. So access to the lower level is that strictly from the back or you have through where you're so it's strictly from the back only. That picture showed it, Sarah. The one right before it. Uh, you mean that one after it, the of the parking lot? Yeah. So, that is the back entrance there. And then on the left side of that photo where those windows, that whole back space there is. So, you walk in and it's to the left and it's expands the space of the building and that's the only entrance to it. There's a little foyer there. So Sarah, this special use permit will apply to the entire building then the second floor. The special use permit is tied to the property. Yes. So I I would say yes because it it's not something she would take with her. Clarified because that we're we're if we would approve it, we're approving it for the whole building and not just her portion of of it. Well, may I ask what what's the special use permit title is required? So, a special use permit, it's to operate the community center. So, you you're concern if you say that we can operate a community center and then we vacate the property and it's given this special use, then anybody can open up a community center there. That's basically Well, we're not going anywhere. Well, that's that's one of our concerns we do this that stays with that property. So, yeah. Yes. Uh this year we have to fund it from our organization, but I'm on the board of the Missouri Coalition of Recovery Support Providers. So I know that next year the Department of Mental Health is opening up an invitation for a bid to open up four new recovery

community centers. Like it's a big deal in the recovery community world and we'll likely get a contract for that and be funded. That's why I say that because we really even if we weren't didn't receive a contract from the Department of Mental Health, we would find the funds to do it because it's such an integral part of the good work that we're doing. But I mean, I know you guys have to make a decision. Just say we weren't around forever, but I'm just saying that we probably are going to be. Okay. Any questions for the applicant? So, if they were to open up to the public, then just kind of come back to figure out other licensing or permitting or I'm just curious how that would work. Well, when they when they leave, they'd still have to go through the occupancy inspection process and make sure that it meets the code, building code, but the special use permit to allow the community center there would stay unless we revoke it. So if there's any issues that we feel like we need to attend to, then yes, we could revoke that special use permit at a future date somewhere down the road. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you. If no other questions or comments, I'd entertain a motion. So moved. Second. Motion by Mike, seconded by Carolyn to approve the special use permit for 600 East Fifth Street, the community center. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed? Eyes have it. Thank you. Next item is file number 25-0503, special use permit 30001 recreation drive for a food truck. Yeah, we were just here. So, it's a a different parcel, but yes, in the same area, C2 zoning, recreation drive, we have N Sports Recreation Center that

just changed hands. Um, and they're expanding their use and activities and doing a few more things. And they have a, uh, business called Messy Betty's, uh, that has other locations, but first in Washington here, they actually applied for a roadside stand permit, which they received. So, they have approval from the property owner. They have their insurance. They There it is actually just a food tent that they set up and then they take down and they just do it periodically. So, they were allowed to do that 10 10 days out of the calendar year. I said if you wanted to expand that, you'd have to apply for a special use permit. So, that's why they're here to do that. Um the like I said, it's a tent. It's a tent. It's literally one parking spot as you can see. Technically, I guess they'll be right there in front of the front door, but the parking I tried to count it. It's a lot. It's a lot of parking. Um, I went and looked up an old uh site plan and the parking is not quite how they had originally planned it out, but it's a probably about 160 to 170 spaces. I've never seen that parking lot full. There's no drive-thru. It's the gun show. She Oh, the gun show. Okay. I have didn't drive by when they were doing that. Or if the um if the wedding show is there, okay, those are biggies. Those are big events. Um but they don't it's not a drive up. It's not like a food truck where they drive up. So there's no car stacking needed. People just park and they walk there from the the recreation center. Um, so I do not see that as being a hardship um on the parking or, you know, bleeding out into, as you can see, there's a lot of cars that would have to be out on that uh recreation drive to actually bleed out into Missouri uh 100. So, I'm not worried about that. There isn't any extra noise or anything that's going to come from that. That's not a music venue or anything. I think the rec center

would be probably louder than the food tent. So, um I I do not see an issue with this special use permit. So, the way I understand they're they're putting the tent up and taking it down every day is what every day that they're there. Yes. Which right now it sounds like just Wednesdays and then occasionally on the weekends, right? Yeah. And in the application you had they have two tents out there, but you only have one listed in your criteria for staff recommendation. Oh, okay. I thought it was one tent. So, and Antonio's here. He's the applicant. He can clarify. Okay. Come on up and uh give us your name and address, please. Antonio Triplet. Um I'm at 600 South Brentwood Boulevard, Clayton, Missouri. Um condo number three. Okay. Um yes. So, we do have one tent, but when it rains, we do use two. Um two is for the fryer. Um also that takes care of the fire protection as well. Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? What food do you serve? We serve smash burgers and chicken sandwiches. We are fully operational in Franklin County, 70% of the time, um 20% in Jefferson County, and about 10 to 15% in uh St. Louis County as well. Thank you. Thank you. If we approve this, can you give us a lifetime discount on your food? You know, there's a lot of people that come up as of now. So, you know, I'm always able to throw a free one out out there. You're the man. You're the man. Remember him. Yeah. Wednesdays every week. Yes. So, it's Wednesdays if I don't have an event planned. Um right

now we have eight popup locations um during the week Monday through Friday and that's stacked on top of each other but we also do events. Now occasionally they do ask us to come out on a Sunday or a Saturday um and we would do it but I'm pretty close to staying in the line of those 10 days. So, um, usually though it's always Wednesday. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments or questions from commissioners and I would entertain a motion. A motion to approve. Second. Motion made by Chuck, second by Chad to uh approve the special use permit at 30001 Recreation Drive for for a food truck or tent I guess it would be in this case. Yeah, food tent. All those in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Eyes have it. Okay, next item. Uh item number six grade variation of the Highlands. Sarah, so we approved the Highland um preliminary plat a while back. I don't have the date on there. I apologize. um they are looking at this connection here to Emily and the grade the maximum that we allow is a 10% grade. It's really not feasible and I can again let Charles speak more to that. He's the engineer working on this um but it's going to be a very difficult ask. So they're asking for an approval for a variance um to the 11.58% grade. And again, Charles can speak to all the good reasons why we should approve that. Charles. Yeah. So, um, they're looking, you can see right

there, it's about 150 ft right at the end of where Emily stops today. Emily Lane is at 10% right now. And then right at the end, it it just, you know, the grade shoots up. It's really steep right there. So, they're already going to have to do blasting on Emily Lane as you're closer to High Street to get that grade down. they want to avoid blasting it, you know, closer to the homes. Um, so they're asking for this variance. That way they can they can still manage that breaking it out without blasting but still have a through street through there. So I know we just talked about, you know, not approving these these variances for over the the street grade. But in this case, I feel like it it makes a lot of sense trying to tie in a stub street, making that a through street. Um, and also kind of protecting uh the neighboring homes from trying to, you know, blasting and and breaking rock even closer to them. So, well, at least on this one, you'll with your snow plows and stuff like that, you can you can have a run at it through a street right at the beginning of when you turn off. It's not into a culde-sac or something like that, you know, or down into a co-ac like we've talked on the connectivity. Any issues with storm water runoff being that steep or is that pretty much part of the whole system that's down there that runs into Emily? Yeah. Um most of So you can see the inlet's right there um at what is it? Charles Drive. So they'll catch all of Emily to that point. So then you're only talking about that. Okay. 150 ft will be added to the existing Emily Lane. So, not a huge concern. Didn't see that in the fine print. Oh, you have any questions for Charles? And this comes to us and not the board of variance because

it's part of the subdivision code. So variance would come from this commission and city council. Okay. That's how it's historically always been done, but normally it's when they bring the preliminary plat. They just neglected to do that this time. So that makes sense. Gotcha. Okay. What do you think? I'm fine with it being it's it's a short 15 150 ft right in the middle. If it was longer like 14th Street, be a different story. Yeah. For that short span. And since it's just straight on through and stuff, too. It's like it's vital to a connection. Yeah. Right. And it's like we talked about it, street connectivity for those of us that were there. Exactly. Right. I mean, if we can do our part to help a developer without raising the cost to the property owners, we continue to have more affordable housing. And it's the city working with the developer to make something work that is not detrimental. Correct. That's why I looked at it as well. But as you know, as I pointed out earlier, it's like, you know, it's not like you're going into that culde-sac on on horse camps. And it's like, you know, you can get a run at it to go straight on through for the for the u city services and stuff like that, the snow plows and the trash pickup and stuff like that, you know. Yeah. I feel like you're talking about two kind of opposite ends of the spectrum there. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And the city has lived with 14th Street forever. Okay. Uh if no other questions or comments, Charles, I'd entertain a motion. I'll make a motion. Second. Motion by Chuck, seconded by Mike, Chad. Okay. somebody whichever uh to approve the variance for the street grade parade at the Highlands

uh subdivision per staff recommendation. All those in favor I I opposed eyes have it. Okay. Number seven. Okay. So this is comp plan. This is the the the presentation I promised all of you. um still working on putting it into something, you know, more interactive for the public. But the for this case to give you guys a quick review, we're going to make it real quick. Um so Aaron Griezheimer, good evening everybody. Evening Aaron. Aaron Greimer, economic development director for those of you that don't know. Welcome. So okay, well we're going to go ahead and get started. Um, we're gonna start. Erin's gonna start because the big part of it is Did y'all get You know what? I don't think here. I think you set your um notebook on here. I Are you talking this? I don't think this went in the packet. No, that's code changes. So, let me just give this to you. If you want to follow along, here is what the comprehensive plan um says are our short-term goals. And I forgot it's not in the packet. So, if you want to follow along so you can kind of see all the things that we are tasked to do and how we're um accomplishing those goals currently. And really, thank you to all the commissioners for your vested interest in this. This really is very important. I know a couple weeks ago I just came from an economic development conference and one thing they stressed um was the first thing you do for economic development is have a comprehensive plan or a strategic plan. So, thank you guys for having an interest. Okay. Can I add something? Please do. Sure. This comp plan, you guys, a lot of cities have a comp plan because it gives you access to grants and such. They do the comp plan every 10 years and it sits

and gathers dusk dust on the shelf. We don't do that. Most decisions we make here, nearly every one of them, we ask each other, does this apply to our comp plan? Does it follow it? And it's not it's not a hard and fast document, but it gives us an indication of what our citizens want because our citizens have had input into that comp plan compl. And so we have and will continue to view it as a pretty darn important document. Thanks, Aaron. Well, one things too and this is one of I I asked a month ago, you know, our one-y year anniversary is coming up this month. So I want to keep that in the forefront and next year we'll see once we'll be two years into it and we would suspect an update at that point too that right. So and keep in mind the short-term implementation strategies are one to threeyear timeline. So like we said this is a one-year anniversary. There's a lot that we're already accomplished, a lot that we're just starting and then some things that we haven't touched on and we're you know going to evaluate whether or not those are important strategies. So we'll get to that. You'll see that when we get through those. So we'll start with the the first goal which is community history and regional distinction. And the primary department responsible for this is economic development. So starting off goal 1.1 is enhance downtown Washington with more dining, shopping, and lodging to support residents, tourists, and regional day trippers. Uh I'm happy to report to all of you that city staff has been meeting with several different developers. one who is looking to develop a um a conference center in downtown Washington and another who is looking at developing a hotel and a mixeduse development along Fifth Street. So we have

that 1.4 establish an annual calendar of community events in Washington with weekly concert series expanded seasonal events etc. Uh you can actually go to visitwashmo.com which is the tourism director's um website or the tourism uh website and it features a collection of different events uh from downtown Washington and the area chamber of commerce. If you go to the next one here's just a little snippet. You can see it has all of the events throughout the year like I said for downtown Washington uh and the uh area chamber of commerce. And here's a nice little uh visitors guide that actually our tourism uh department put together. Um you can see it's got uh uh some recommendations for our visitors with uh restaurants, fast food, shopping, other attractions throughout the area. So it's really well put together. Where is that is where is that distributed a lot? And there's physical copies that are located throughout uh downtown at some of our shops. I know the uh chamber of commerce has some available in their offices. We have some here at city hall and you can also access the virtual uh copy on the tourism website. But is any of them promoted uh St. Louis County or things like that and stuff too? I mean is there certain groups that So I think Emily has stated that she makes sure these distributed along the Amtrak routes the stations. So those are out there outside of Franklin County as well. Um but then they just uh created the digital version. So that's going out to all different platforms. Okay, next one. 1.5. Continue to market quality of life and promotional materials to site selectors, industries, and the future

workforce. One thing that is stressed, especially since uh the general population in America, people aren't having as many children. U one thing with economic development, if you're going to entice companies to locate here, one thing you need to stress is quality of life. And obviously, uh Washington has a great quality of life. Um so actually whenever I took over as economic development director um as all of you know uh we have an economic development designated website.com and it has uh information regarding available properties, demographics, infrastructure, workforce uh quality of life right there uh that we've added. So, if you go to the next slide, you click on quality of life. It has information on all of our hospitals, uh, all of our housing options that we have here in town. If you go to the next one, there's also educational opportunities. Just talking about our local or public and private schools, and there's also one on public safety. So, and also we've um on many of the material that we send out to companies to try to get them to locate here or think about Washington, we've created a quality of life page with um virtually uh they have a virtual option where they can click on housing and it gives us it directs them to those websites as well. If you go to the next one so Erin, can I ask just what was that website again? WashMOWorks. Washoworks.com. That's a cool thing. It is. Thanks. Thank you. Sorry. Oh, no problem. It looks like we You found some of our brochures in my office. Can't stop them. No. All right. Back to 1.6. So 1.6 six, create a public relations

and marketing program designed to attract private investors and development talent. So, I'm actually uh meeting with Emily uh Underdown Hopkins to uh develop a PR marketing strategy uh in regards to um economic development and how we can uh use that because I know some of our material needs to be updated, especially the videos that were created, stuff like that. So picking her brain on what she thinks we could do since she was involved in the first initial marketing strategy. Yeah, I think that Chuck's point, it'll be interesting just to see whether you're using different commissions or getting the word out. I think we have a lot of like networking opportunities to do this very well in Washington specifically being out of the county. Yeah, we have so much opportunity here. We do. We're very fortunate. Next one, please. So this is goal two and again economic diversity and amplification and there is a mix of economic development and planning involved in this goal page. So starting with 2.1 continue the city's annual business retention and expansion program. So obviously this is very important with all of our major industries in town. So basically with my first year, I kind of uh went with our top I kind of started uh from the point of make for sure I get out and meet with all of our top 10 employers in town. So I'm happy to report last year I met with eight of our top 10 employers. um you know the school district um um hey WG um uh the magnet group and many other industries in town uh made for sure just so they know who I am know a face if they have any issues to come to me um and then also as part of the business retention and expansion program we've uh we're working with the chamber of commerce locally to create a salute to

industry award uh that we will be uh awarding at the next uh annual banquet. So in 2026, this will consist of the chairman of 353, the chairman of WCIC, um the city administrator, myself, and the executive director of the chamber. So we haven't necessarily established what the guidelines will be, but we'll be uh meeting shortly to kind of lay all those out. So 2.2, two, continue collaboration with the Missouri Partnership and Greater St. Louis, Inc. to market Washington to new and existing businesses. So, uh, one of the things they stressed, uh, with this job, um, and especially at the conference was relationships, relationships, relationships. Um, so actually, um, I've been going to a lot of different events and actually this Thursday, uh, there's an event at Union Station. So I'll be there marketing and Washington to a bunch of different site selectors. Um and then Friday there's another networking event. So relationships, relationships, relationships. So next one please. So 2.3 maintain a database of maps and other relevant information to help attract new business. So actually we have two different sites. Um washmo.gov the city's website. We actually have a mapping portal. So, if you go to the front page and you click on the mapping portal right there, that'll take you to all the different maps that Sarah's done a great job of creating. You can see all of those right there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I did not create all these maps, but I did say from the get-go, these maps need to be available and they do not need to be hidden because they were on web pages and you had to literally go find them to see to click on, oh, here's a map, the word map. You know, I I said we have to have it all in one place so people can just find the maps right away. And so

that when they recreated the website, I said, "Make the mapping portal and make those buttons or those tiles so that people they're pretty and you can just go right to them." So, uh, that's I didn't make them. I did update some of them though. I did make the short term right there. So, you updated some added some pieces. So, all those are available right on our uh right on our city's website. So, next one. So, in regards to um marketing material, you can see right there on um on our uh Works website. Uh there's an aerial of the Oldenberg Industrial Park. Uh one thing we did in the fall is we did uh 360 images of all of our available properties that we're marketing to ind industries. And then you can see the different flyers that we use to market our properties. And you can see the aerial views, um stuff like that. Next one. So 2.4 target industrial clusters for additional employer and workforce expansion focused on Washington strengths and needs toward a goal of economic diversity and resilience to recessions. And those four key industries were healthc care, information technology, transportation and warehousing and education. So, obviously we do market to these types of industries, but um we get a lot of RFIs from Greater St. Louis, Inc. And if we have properties that do qualify for their needs, we fill out those spreadsheets and then we send them the marketing material. So, while we are obviously trying to market to these industries, we also don't want to cut short maybe potential industries that we could locate here to Washington. So 2.5 partner with one or more technical schools to establish a high-tech emerging market training and educational school in Washington. So our current technical schools were very very fortunate uh with Four Rivers Career Center here in town. As all of you know,

East Central College has their center for workforce development and obviously just an hour's drive away, State Technical College. Um, we have actually approached uh State Technical College um to see if maybe they would be interested. Um, they said at this time they're just not very interested, but we're continuing to look at other opportunities that may be available out there. Have you thought about ranking at all? We have not talked to Rankin yet, but that is a very good that's a good suggestion. Talk to you after. We'll do 2.6. continue participation in in sponsorship of connect Washington. So you can see the board positions there uh with Dr. Kehart, uh Tyler with Downtown Washington, Jennifer Gizac with the area chamber of commerce and myself. S actually uh was a partner in this program when it first began and with his absent I absence I just took his place. Next one. Okay, so this is just cut right out of the comprehensive plan. It's the mixeduse innovation overlay district. Um, we haven't uh pursued a whole lot of growing this area, but this I just wanted to present this to you saying that this wasn't just something that we just came up with. Um, they identified this area as a potential mixeduse innovation overlay district. So that may be coming down the line, but currently right now we're not working on anything in the on the planning side. Is that map available on the website? Yes. So, all the comprehensive all in the comp plan, right? Okay. Just wanted to make sure. Um maybe not just that one type because it's all on the land use map and it's called out each type of land use. So, this one, you know, I kind of snipped it out and identified it from the comprehensive uh plan that is also

on the website, but that specific map is not. It's part of the bigger map. Does that make sense? Yeah, totally. Thank you. Is this one the chicken or the egg? Does somebody need to come to us with an idea to do a mix development and then we can adjust the code or if we adjust the code some code drives the attraction? I mean, if you don't have accommodating code, people aren't going to come because they it's going to take a process almost um to get that done. but they already, you know, identified some uses that that kind of fell into that type of uh overlay district. So, it's kind of already there and we just need to change the zoning. So, we need to change the zoning code to make this more plausible for right industries. Yeah. So, there in throughout the whole comprehensive plan, there's been suggestions about code changes. Uh and I'm I'm going to present some of those to you today. Uh, one of them that I think we won't be pursuing in the near future is a formbbased code. I don't know if S had brought that up in the past. I really like formbbased codes, but it's really hard to say to a developer, it has to look like this. This is how you have to design your building. We already have that in the historic districts where we have a design review and we have suggestions and things that we say we want it to look like this. But to say that throughout the city saying it has to have this form versus this use, that's, you know, probably not something that's best for Washington. But, um, there's other ways of of changing the code that allows for certain types of uses more in in mixed way and and we're going to deal with that or talk about that here in just a second as well. So identifying those feature land use that supports the growth and revitalization for retail office and mixeduse development. So one of the examples from the comprehensive plan was putting in the residential and maybe

some more like entertainment type um uses where Phoenix center currently is. So there is a lot of future development that can happen and how can we encourage the type that brings in more mixed use as opposed to just commercial. Um, you can see in the graphic on the right that's actually in process. We don't have an overlay district, but through specific zoning we have this the commercial along the corridor 100. This is the Highland Meadows development that's currently going on. Then down through High Street, you have more of a senior um type living development which we'll talk about here uh in a little bit. And then you'll have the single family housing which we just talked about getting the doing the variance for the street connection um on Emily Lane. So you do have in a generally small area you have a mix of uses but they're zoned commercial zone senior when we had that senior zoning and zone single family. The idea is to allow those uses without just that one specific zoning type. Um, but this would be an example of, you know, kind of what we're looking for to redevelop some of our areas and expand. So, is there any movement with anything going on in Phoenix Center? Not that I'm aware of. There's not been any conversation about um new development. I think the newest thing would be the fire department. Well, yeah. Yeah. So, I just was curious because I I think when if I remember right from the comp plan, that was a pretty unique development that they talked about doing out there. And I think that's something that there's a lot of land sitting there vacant right now that's nothing doing with. And I think we need to push that somehow push that because I think that's part of what we wanted in the comp plan was to see that

intermix going on and not just all the big box stores and the big retail. And with the walkability and the park out there and the connection now with the bridge going through, I think that would be an ideal place for that type of type of development. So maybe that's something that city staff can Yeah, we boards and we have been discussing how to move into the future with these types of developments, these big shopping complexes, how they tend to we could probably think about the 47100 intersection and how those commercial um complexes, some of them are just outdated and empty. and what do you do in the future with those because the new businesses are, you know, they're not beating the door down trying to get in there. So, some underutilized areas is what we've talked about, right? And how to change that. So, that's definitely a conversation we're having, not directly with Phoenix Center, but just generally, how do we bring those back to life? Yeah. So, so has the development group at Phoenix Center been shown this in the comp plan? I have not had a conversation with Fernac. That's not something that I've um talked Is that I have not. Okay. So, neither one of us have talked to. Is that something we should do as a city? I mean, maybe he doesn't know that this was part of our comp plan and I don't know. I'm just asking. Never hurts to talk. Yeah. It it's hard because I will I will say from from my position and I think we we as city employees have to be very careful that we're not favoring one development over another if that's fair. Sure. So it it's it's it's a sticky situation if that makes sense. I just would hate to see that just sit

there. Yeah. I think it's a matter of the city changing again code that encourages that type of development and then once you've got that set in place then it's a lot easier for them to see oh the potential I can do this instead of just this. Okay. So very good. Yeah. So that's coming down the line. So back to me two 2.11 take the economic development strategies on the road to demonstrate that Washington is at the forefront of economic growth and innovation and assure that Washington is top of mind among relevant leader organizations. So in there we just kind of showed you Greater St. Louis, the MEEDC, the Missouri Economic Development Council, the Missouri Partnership, and of course the Missouri Department of Economic Development. We have great relationships fortunately with all four of these different organizations. Um I am active on the road at different conferences. Um making for sure that those individuals uh know who I am that I'm building relationships with indivi key individuals and those different organizations. So we are doing that currently. Okay. Goal three. So getting back to downtown, the expansion and enhancement of downtown. Again, economic development and planning department have uh a collaborative effect on this. So we have the redevelopment of Fifth Street into a pedestrian friendly multi-use corridor that serves as a new entrance into downtown. We're working with PGAV right now on a Fifth Street corridor strategy. They're almost at completion. We've had a few um conversations. They've given us a qualifications analysis. Definitely. Uh we're looking at it as a conservation area that needs some help. Uh we do have a developer that is interested. It's bought some key parcels and wants to redevelop th those areas. So, the um PJB

is just putting together finalizing that um impact uh economic impact study and the um I think we're looking at a maybe a TIFF district to um secure the funds to kind of bring this back to life. Maybe a SID. They haven't really said one way or the other what they would recommend, but this is the corridor that we've identified um as being part of that study. Yes. So, the city has a meeting on Wednesday with the different uh public entities that would be affected if we were to develop a tiff district. Um, but yes, you can see right here, as Sarah said, this is kind of the boundary that we've outlined for PGAV to identify, and it has those two key parcels uh in that district that we talked about. So, 3.4 four, develop a comprehensive downtown parking strategy to provide shared parking facilities in strategic locations. Um, so we've actually uh the city along with other nonprofit leaders uh the downtown Washington, Inc. uh and the Chamber of Commerce, we've established a downtown parking committee, also with some local business owners as well, uh to look at if there's ways that we could somehow uh increase parking in downtown areas. Um, and so we've gotten together, we've met a couple times, um, and we have actually put together some different criteria that we'd like to maybe seek out maybe a parking feasibility study to some consultants and to see what that cost would be if we were to uh, hire a consultant. Um, we're hoping that maybe the consultant could identify ways maybe that we're not thinking of to add parking into our downtown area, especially during events where it gets really crowded. Um, and let me just

stress that this is a great problem to have, is it not? So, um, so we're trying to we're trying to, um, look at maybe hiring a consultant to put together a parking feasibility study. And the worst case scenario is if we can't fit if we can't fit any more parking spots to uh potentially put a parking structure or parking garage somewhere in the downtown area. And I would argue that's my hope because then we can do the infill of those surface lots that are just an eyesore. So, okay, we uh we'll see what happens. Goal four, uh housing development and diversification. again, economic development and planning working together. So, we're looking at high-end residential housing and subdivisions. And I know because planning and zoning has to approve those first so you know that they're there. Um, we have the Highlands, which is uh what we were just looking at, the single family homes, we have about 48 that have uh building permits off of High Street. Um, Highland Meadows, we have about 16 single family homes also off of High Street. And then our Stonebridge phases one through five. In total, there will be 219 single family homes and that's in South Washington. So, just graphically, you can see there's our preliminary plat for the Highlands and Highland Meadows, the the housing stock. Those are images of what they would be building there or what they have been building. um Stonebridge. Again, they just had their grand opening ribbon cutting for phase um uh four and five. And you can see those high-end residential houses that they're developing there. And if you pay attention to Zillow, they're definitely high-end um prices, too. So, at least for my pocketbook. And then, uh we're also looking at not

just the high-end because we need to diversify our housing. So, we're looking at the entry level workforce housing and considering the use of incentives. We really haven't needed to use any incentives. I think the developers are here and they know that this is good for them. So, right now we have the crossing on Fifth, which you saw a while back. Um, they have right now 80 apartments scheduled and 134 town homes. And there's a if you drive down East Fifth Street, you've seen a lot of them already built and ready to go. and they're pre-leasasing. So, it's it's just right around the corner. And then if you're going along 100, going um out to New Haven in that area, you've seen the Washington Terrace. So, they're also rapidly building now after a long back and forth stint of what you know what was going to happen over there. Uh so, our phase one has 112 apartments and I think there is conversation now about phase two, what that's going to look like. So, be ready for that. again, all workforce housing, um, town homes, apartments, that kind of thing. So, a lot of options for our young people that are trying to get out and, um, you know, not ready to buy a house, but definitely don't want to live at home with their parents. Sarah, yes, just back on that Washington terrace there. Yes. Um, how do people contact that is we were just talking about that and that is very because I was able to find all the pre-leasasing information for all the other developments except for this one. I know and that's what just looking at what's up wash mo there's two different what's up wash mo on Facebook and it's like there's been a number of times people have wanted to find out more information and you just can't find information on so whether it's pre-leasasing or just whatever you can't I know I I I am not necessarily

spending a lot of time talking to the developer like Mark Wart who you know approves all these plans um he we put him to the task. So, he's reached out to John McCarthy, hasn't heard yet, but hopefully there is something out there that we just haven't been able to find. Um but looking just generally looking for it based off of the development has not there's nothing out there complaint. They had driven around trying to see if there was a sign, right? Everybody else has a sign, but nothing. Yeah. So there's there's interest, but it's like yeah, there's just like what you're getting at with all this other stuff. It's like, you know, we're promoting things and you're promoting, you know, moving to the area and stuff and they're interested in finding out more because what they're seeing, but there's there no way that they can find anything out. Yeah, their marketing is a little lax, but they're definitely building like crazy. Um, we have it all addressed. There's five buildings that you see here for phase one. they've all been addressed, so it's already out there. Um, it's just they need to get that marketing piece out and once we get that information, we'll send that out. Yeah. Similar to all of you, I've had people ask me as well and I've reached out to Sarah trying to get a number. So, and I don't know if the commission all knows this or not, but that development as well as the crossing, those buildings are all fully sprinkled residential. That was part of the agreement that they made down by Hillerman's to have one way to have that basically a dead end street, but those are all going to be sprinkled. So that's a huge huge benefit for us. So anyway, and then we had the goal of defining and maintaining a sustainable balance of owner occupied and rental housing um including the short-term rentals. So, I know a while back before I came on board, there was a lot of uh push back

from the community saying we have too many vacation rental uh dwellings. So, we uh did the zoning change that didn't allow it in residential and it kind of slowed it down. But you can see the na the data 2024 we've only had 60 active and that was that hadn't changed since I started. So, this just, you know, it's what the market allows. And if you start, you know, a business and you're not doing well, you're going to jump out. And a few people have actually come to me and said, "Well, I think I'm going to do long-term rental now. Is is that okay?" And I'm like, "Yes, that's fine. You can do that." So, we're not, you know, oversaturated with short-term rentals. I don't have um the numbers on what are owner occupied versus rental occupied. I thought maybe we could get that through our system, our Tyler system for utilities. Uh I wasn't able to get that information. So I don't have that, but I think that we have a decent balance, especially now that we're infusing the market with a lot more the rentals that are coming down the line with this these new developments. Um generation, the amount of revenue that was generated last year was about $274,000 in uh short-term rental. So it's a little bit of money. It's not bad. And I think we're we're at a happy compromise. Uh if you did not mean to do that. If you haven't seen the map, here's our map of just the downtown area. So that we have a few that were grandfathered in that are in the residential like the R1A or R1B that you don't see here, but most of them are, you know, focused the C3 C2 overlay. And then if it's an R2 overlay, which is, you know, around the downtown core, it's going to have that buffer. So that's the circles around those uh buildings there. The blue ones are the active ones and the red ones are not no opposite. The red ones are active. The blue ones are not active. So they're just kind of sitting there either long-term rental or

they're just vacant right now. I know that there's one that hasn't had their water on since they got a a special use permit. I guess they never followed through. They just never decided to do it, but they have it. So if they ever change their mind, they can they they can do that because it does stay with the property. So and then our infill housing, which is near and dear to my heart. I like to see us build up what we currently have. So we do have the Bluffs at Pastor Place. Again, another project that seemed like it was taking forever to get going, but now it's going. Um, and then the Front Street development has been going for a long time and is still in process as you know because y'all always approve this stuff. So, back to the Bluffs at Pasaura, you can see um high-end residential going in off of Washington Avenue and then the front street development. I had to dig this out of the archives because I wasn't even sure what that was and I'm like, "Wow, there's a lot going on there." So, Andy's development. Um he's currently finishing up that uh that uh property on uh Maine and and Market Jefferson. Is that the last of his developments down there? I think so. I don't know of any I don't think of any. Um they're going to have the Apple Dental and two I understand are condos already sold. Yeah, there's uh three and then two on the top floor. Yeah. So, and I and I I try to look for um any marketing on that, too. And I think that's all word of mouth because I couldn't find anything. So, and then back to the senior housing that we talked about before. Now, we don't have a senior district zoning district anymore, but we do have uh PDRs that

cater to that type of development that is more compact one level, you know, the smaller. So, these are attached uh t like town homes and so they're a lot easier for seniors to navigate, get in and out and you know maintain their yards and that that kind of thing without having to be maybe in an apartment style type complex. Um so there's the villas at High Street that's in development and then all those phases, the Riverbend Estates phases off of High Street. So third phase is um I think completed. uh it's been a while so I'm I would say they're done but once they go through planning and zoning I kind of step back and I don't really pay attention much to what's going on with the billing phases. So but that that's those developments there. So back to the other one the previous one I forgot what it the villas at high street. Yes. That doesn't seem to be taking off very fast. Does that Yeah, it's um I I should maybe should have talked to Tim when he was in here. Uh we we're in the street connection u committee together but yeah it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of development going on. No I was wondering and is you this is right off their website. So you can see that they're marketing to the 10 units there. They don't even have you know anything you know it's like not called out for the other ones. Um yeah I'm not sure why it's taking so long. I don't know if it's a price point or I was just curious because I noticed in driving around that that doesn't seem to be progressing like others have been. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of factors with that, but I I would uh don't want to argue that it's one thing or another. Didn't know if you'd heard anything. No, I haven't heard anything. No change in plans.

So, and again, that's not necessarily just geared towards seniors. It just, you know, it is designed so that it could be for seniors, but it's not senior development. Um, goal five, transportation and infrastructure. So, we're looking at now the engineering department. So, just, you know, going forward, a lot of this is I asked them to give me feedback and that I'm just giving you what they gave me and I may not know anything about it. Um, so bear with me if you have questions and I can't answer. Um, but we're looking at a variety of different departments including tourism which is through the Chamber of Commerce. So I, you know, we went back and forth, Erin and I, about this goal and no one really understands where this was coming from because it does say wayfinding of major roads within Washington. And so we do have downtown Washington, Inc. that replaced the wayfinding signs and looks so much better. So, I use those, but those are not the major roads. So, what major roads? The highway 44. I'm not sure where they were going with that. Um, and maybe that's not as important uh of a goal right now to think, oh, we need to replace all these signs, but as we find signs that need to be updated, that would be something that we would uh look at. you know, some of them are kind of old and um sad maybe it had to do with like certain districts like a downtown district making it look different than other sign like yard or the street signs in the city. Other city like their downtowns basically have like a unique looking street sign. Yeah. and Historic Preservation is working on doing some signage in their, you know, we could discuss that being the street signs as well, but they're using they're wanting to use like pedestal signs that, you know, showcase this is this district

you're entering. Um, so we're working on that a little bit of a budget to spend. So, it's going to take some time if we're going to do it right. Um, but that that's definitely So, if you have any suggestions for that, feel free to email me and let me know. Hey, let's do this. or if you see a sign that looks sad and it needs to be updated, uh, feel free to reach out. Well, maybe, you know, I don't know what I haven't been to St. Charles for a while, but I know at one time their downtown district was that way where it had a completely different looking signage in that district, which really I think well if if you drive into Kirkwood, they'll have the Monroe or the Argon or whatever and they have a a sign historic district and it's very classy looking, right? And you know where you are that you're in something, right? And that's cool. And we've talked we talked about that back in the day when I was still on historic preservation because that's a really nice way to you know you don't want to beat them to death with signs. But at the same time that establishes downtown as a unique I mean maybe we get downtown Washington Inc. to basically fit the bill for changing the signs like the street signs themselves and have their logo on it or something. I mean could be a lot of different ways that we could do it just not the same green and white signs. Right. Exactly. Yeah. That calls out that it's a historic district. Correct. Now, I will on that point uh that both of you made, I will say that uh we are working with downtown Inc. and tourism uh for an over the road sign um that will say welcome to downtown Washington. Uh the exact location um we are not sure. We've talked about Jefferson Street, but then we've also talked about Fifth Street. So, so a lot of compromises there, but yes, there is conversation. So, so to your point about feeling like you're in a special place, we hope to get that sign. Yeah. Awesome. Okay. Okay. So, then we're looking at adding designated

bicycle and pedestrian facilities. So, our sidewalks, bike lanes, shared lanes. So, again, all part of the maps that you saw a lot of the major roads getting worked on. Jefferson Street, if you've missed it, you know, take Jefferson Street before you get home. Go home because there's a lot going on there. And I'm so excited to see sidewalks. Um, and then future projects, you know, uh, the ADA improvements everywhere so that people can walk, they can bike, they can easy access. So, Highway 100 and High Street um, East Fifth Street from Highway 100 to Old Highway 100 and then phase two of the Bush Creek Greenway Greenway. So, that's a really great trail. I love it. goes through the neighborhood and they're looking at some expansions of that with the U master parks uh this ma the parks master plan that they're coming out with here soon. So there's going to be recommendation for that. This is just a snippet from their master plan. I guess on the biking just because I have a lot of experience with cycling and working with nonprofits in the region. Have we thought about consulting like Greenway, basically different nonprofits that specialize in bikeability, walkability consulting in St. Louis? I mean, there's like at least three or four that I know of that I could get you connected with. Yeah. Learn more about that. We could I'm curious to see what the um what's the parks master plan? What's their the group that's doing that? Yeah, I said it earlier and I don't remember. Yeah, that's one. So, I'm not Yeah, I'm not part of their conversation, but I'm curious to see what they come up with for their design because that's kind of their focus. Okay. Um, it was just generally put on the comprehensive plan, but I don't think it was as in-depth as what we're going to see in the parks master plan. And then we can then of course reach out and um expand on that too. So, I feel

like with the key trail, other things that we have around here, it's a good opportunity. Yeah. For a lot of things. I would agree. So, I think this one's is this yours? Uh, expand in 5.3 expand infrastructure in future development areas to attract new businesses and residential development, including outside current city limits. So, obviously, we have uh our Oldenberg Industrial Park that we've uh we're at near completion. Um if you've driven out that way um you can see that they're expanding uh highway 100 right there adding a turn lane. As much as it is a headache for some of our industries and residents in the area it's very much needed especially for safety. So uh we have that and then future uh improvements uh the widening of Highway 100 Devos Brink widening of 47 South and then other city projects. We'll kind of talk about how we hope to fund those in the future. So then this goal is also attached to the previous one coordinating with MDOT to expand that highway 47 to the four lanes. And of course it's you know takes time and there's been a lot of conversation um in the past but it looks like we're getting closer and with the renewal of the transportation sales tax we can really make this um a reality. And this is if you haven't seen it yet. This is on the left. This is our comprehensive plan showing that that's identified as a cross-section. There's Highway 47 crossing with our future Northeast West Parkway. And on the right is the same thing, but just a different view. It's the aerial view. So, that's our focus there for the city to really get expand those uh those lanes to four lanes. And then another transportation topic uh that I love Amtrak the train. So yeah, so tourism Emily Underdown is working

constantly with Amtrak and making sure that we're getting the most bang for our buck here. That's why I was saying that she also makes sure that these are at train stations um you know that well that they passengers will obviously be um waiting at or getting off at so they know that Washington is a tourist destination as well. So she did want me to mention also that they are discussing three daily round trips. So we're lucky to have two but three would be even better. So, and then this is a nice uh graphic here. Have we heard anything about when they're going to work on the expanding the pad for disembarking? That's was on network. I mean, that was I think that was Amtrak, but it's also the city. Yeah. Yeah. They had uh Amtrak actually had representatives uh here at city hall. They have some new uh representatives. Um they were here, I want to say a couple months ago. They met with city staff. Um we did talk about that and I can't remember what what year they talked about completion, but yes, it is still on the it's still on the radar. It's it close. Yeah. But the thing is the pad is so short that they can do one car and and they always are on the near side because that's where it is. and they would come in and expand the pad so they'd be able to load and unload more than one car at a time. I mean, that sounds like a but that's a big deal. That would be really nice. And it would improve ADA accessibility. Absolutely. So, yeah. So, again, ongoing discussions. I mean, it's out there, but I I They've been talking about it for a long time. That's why I hadn't heard I haven't been in anything to hear. Yeah. There was a Yeah. Well, you know, they're always talking down the road, but I'm happy to follow up with all of

you if you'd like to know. Thank you. Yeah. And then, of course, our utility and telecom providers enhancing that availability, reliability, um, you know, that gateway fiber came through and disrupted our lives, but for the good, it was, you know, inconvenient. But here we are now. A lot of us have some other options. um looking at AT&T fiber installation in the future and of course ongoing spectrum services. So we have options and a lot of them are really good um uh services. So we're we're happy to have those. What would be different between AT&T Fiber and Gateway Fiber? Competition. Just competition. No, I would say no difference in speed and all that kind of stuff. Okay. Mhm. Um so and then we have 5.11 study and considering construction of one or two new fire stations. As you know, we have a fire station that broke ground recently uh was improved it or approved in January and we hopefully I mean think John would know more uh as the completion date of that, but it's coming down the line. Future stations may or may not be Fifth Street in Stafford, which is the old historic uh fire station. Highway 100 St. John's Road and 2975 Highway A. So, I didn't get a whole lot from Tim, but that's what I got from Tim. So, I can elaborate a little bit if if you want. The W to back up to one slide that would help. The Fifth Street in Stafford, that's the old house three if you remember that. Um, when we did the feasibility study and our 10-year plan, that area of town was the hot spot for us. We actually ran more structure fires and actual fires in

that area. And that station, there's a there's a dead space between the headquarters station, which by the way is going to be called station two whenever station one comes online. So, it won't be headquarters, it'll be station two. and our current house three. So if you go down to front street like high in front that's not covered by any of the mile wheel miles for station three our headquarters. So that's why this station right up here we tried for 3 months and put an engine in there a reserve truck and it worked out pretty good. Uh the challenge is it's a very small building. So uh until we get and I believe there's one app one new pumper coming yet and I believe two more that are going to be ordered for replacement uh within the next year yet. Then we'll probably be moving a truck back up here to uh fifth and Stafford again just because of the insurance savings that that will create for that downtown void area. uh the highway 100 and St. John's Road that is in the long range plan for the community fire protection district. Uh their first priority is building a new station 5 at uh 27 2975 highway A and replacing the one in Crocco because we have some structure. They had a sign. Yes, that's that's the sign where the other day we've been tearing the house down that looks pretty rough right now because it's got holes cut in it and everything else, but that's where it's going to be and that that will be the new station five that will replace the one at that's in downtown Croco if you want to call it that. So that's kind of an update with with where that's going and that's all going to be renegotiated again for the next three-year period coming up with the city and the

community fire protection district to fund all that stuff. Thank you. Yes. So goal 53.13 renew the transportation sales tax and commit funding to road construction especially the planned improvement to highway 100. So I can say uh that the capital improvement sales tax uh and the transportation sales tax renewal committees have been established. They are going to be meeting this summer and we're going to be laying out a strategy on how to market that. Um, and so the election uh will be next year in April. So you guys have any questions about that, please see me afterwards. There you go. So we have goal six. Uh we're looking at parks, recreation, and environmental stewardship. And again, multiple departments uh parks obviously engineering and emergency management. So this is uh we've been working really hard on this uh goal even before the comp plan came out um achieving MS4 storm water compliance and uh we've I think we've been doing a really good job. So engineering department designing developing u the bio retention basin conversion. So there's conversations uh with actually some organizations outside of the city to help uh not just design them but then maintain them because it's a lot more difficult than just mowing a basin or just having concrete there. So we do need a lot of hands- on deck for those otherwise they'll get overgrown and they'll not serve their purpose. Uh we're really pushing hard on SWIP requirements for new construction, including grading permits, which is a huge shock to a lot of our developers, especially for the smaller lots. They

never had to do it before. So now it's like, why are we doing this? Um because it's part of DNR's requirements, and we're going to follow that rule. Um and then we have a SWIP uh portal for reporting. So when they do their inspections, they can self-report. We also have a new dedicated employee that does those inspections. So, they can't just pretend that they're, you know, maintaining because she's out there and she's definitely letting them know that they're not adhering to those expectations. Um, the city facility uh swifts and review inspections for public works and parks department. So, not just our contractors out there, but also us internally that we're keeping up with that as well. Uh definitely a lot of updates to the city website and then staff training. Uh we updated storm water code which you all were here for last May. And then um parks department, if you're not familiar, they uh have a new infiltration trench, a couple of them, but one is going to have some uh signage out there to explain to the public what this is. Uh that that one, you know, sad to me, but I'm sure the parks department doesn't mind. It's just one of those uh fill and mow kind of situations. There's not a whole lot of planting there, but then the signage explains what's happening under the ground. It's not just, you know, water running on the top, but it's actually filtering through and going through different stages before we let it uh daylight out into the river. And then, um the planning department, which is me because I love education, is the storm water awareness campaign through social media platform. There's a water wise Wednesday post every Wednesday about storm water. Uh we recently finished the storm drain murals at Washington High School as a pilot program. So hopefully we can uh expand that throughout the city. We just have to sit down and talk about the parameters for that. And then we just had our Earth Day event with rain barrel demonstrations and the Envirroscape which is again a storm

water demonstration that kids interact with. And then we created a storm water survey and I try to push that out as much as I can. Um, but not a lot of people are interested in doing a survey about storm water. I don't blame them. That's not as much fun. Well, I do say though the the social media education and stuff like that, I mean, the people in our area really are getting, you know, picking up pieces from from that information. That's great. Yeah, I do hear people talking everyone, oh you know, I saw that post about, you know, like the leaves in the storm drain or, you know, about um just the rain gardens. They love the rain gardens. And it's like, you know, you have somebody sitting there cleaning their lawn mower over the drain. Yeah. And those kind of things and stuff and somebody will remind them. That's wonderful. Thank you. Better from a neighbor than it would be from the mayor. No, it's it's it's good information that's definitely helping. Thank you. And then we have um just the goal of expanding recreational programs. So again, this is just something that's wrapped up in that parks master plan that we don't really have all that to share with you right now. So it's just they're reviewing that and that will come out in the next uh month. and then emergency management um periodically review and update the city emergency management and hazard mitigation plan uh to deal with those natural disasters that we we deal with the the flooding more than anything. So um they have worksheets that they've completed submitted to East West Gateway and uh they review and edit those in a five-year cycle. What that looks like, I don't know. You'd have to ask Justin. So this is uh the information he gave me for that. And then our last goal for this um our last strategy or no it's not our last

but one of our last ones is encourage pvious service uh surface coverage green infrastructure robust landscaping in commercial and residential districts uh to provide the shade and address storm water runoff. So as you can see these are some of the things that we've been trying to put out there. the Earth Day event, the infiltration trench, the citizens guide goes out once a once a year in the um water um mailing, although not everyone gets a water bill now. So, I'm going to push this year that it's more online, more digital because I don't get a water bill and I don't get all of these wonderful flyers and currently right now they're not in a digital format. So, we're going to work on that. And then the water wise Wednesday posts that uh go out every Wednesday. And then the last one is the work with the urban forestry council to plan for ecosystem health along the rivers and creeks. And as you all know um our riverfront um is pretty scary right now with some of the slough that's been going on. And so we have trees. I created this map showing where there's currently trees and then where they w they're there's um proposing to plant new trees. So the ones that they're proposing you can see are called out. There's quite a few that they want to add to kind of stabilize those banks. Um so that's a project that's in in currently in in works. So does the parks department oversee that? Yeah. Okay. I just created the map. They just told me what they wanted to put there. So good trees. Those are good trees. I just they're they're uh wood. They're native. Yeah. And that is good. You know, none of these fru trees.

Yeah. No, they're good trees. Can the Missurian poach you on that? Yes. The f fruit trees. We don't want Yeah. These are all good. All right. And then here is our final goal, governmental progress. Our final one here, 7.1, develop a new fiscal plan for the funding and implementation of comprehensive plan goals. So obviously um there are a lot of goals outlined in our comprehensive plan as you guys know. And so how are we going to fund some of these projects? Well, obviously we have the tiff tiff district that we're looking to possibly create along Fifth Street and then you saw the corridors that we've outlined in the map. Uh the transportation sales tax which would cover some of our transportation related projects that we talked about previously and then the capital improvement sales tax. you know, they will be meeting. They have their committee members and they will be uh hearing recommendations uh and input from individuals on some projects that they would like to see um throughout the community. And so those will be uh taken up with the capital improvement sales tax. And I think it's imperative that this commission get behind this and be supportive of these because that's why Washington is what? Absolutely. And I think you need to be very conscious of taxpayers want to know why do you want this money? And we have lots to point at to say this is what we've done. We told you we'd build the library, the pool, the the public safety building. I mean, we have a really good record. And when we do it, we do it right. Mhm. So, I mean, you know, you have to remember, you've really got to push that that um it's not just what we're looking for for the future, but but you can look at us and and know we're trustworthy and we're we're going to provide what you need. We've delivered on everything we've promised. Right. Right. We've delivered on everything we've promised.

Absolutely. And that you cannot say that about government, but here you can. And that is so great. Yeah. That's why I think I mean the update's been really good. And obviously there's so much that goes into this like truly developing this plan. But if we can get this like all these pages into some visual like a one pager kind of thing, right? To post to social medias to promote locally that will I think go a long way because we have a very alert and intelligent voter base. These guys for the most part really know what's they know. You have to really give it to them. Germans boy their money, right? you know, and and if you can show them this is good, that's a great idea. Darren made a presentation at the mayor's coffee last month that was really really good. Excellent. And explained the rationale behind the transportation especially of you know how it's three to four years. Oh, you've got to be you've got to be invested early. And I do that was a good you have to have a dedicated funding source. Y and that's going to provide well and I'll tell you our sales tax is what kept us alive during co and you know we are we are a we are a destination Sarah and Aaron thank you that was an awesome date well again thank you for your vested interest I was looking for out there so very good glad you guys stayed away through all that we were a little worried that it was long so but thank you for participating and giving us some feedback. We really uh did spend a lot of time on that getting the departments department heads to give us some of their pieces because we don't know everything what's going on. So, well, just let the department heads know that we appreciate their, you know, staying

on top of it and stuff too because Yeah, we'll be asking for an update in a year. Yeah, sounds good. Mark your calendar. Do it. Yeah. Okay. Anything else on the comp plan? All right, let's move on to number eight. Code changes, appeals to the board of adjustment, C1, C2 overlay, and C3 zoning district code change recommendations. Okay, so this the first one's quite simple, but may have a problem like I was having before. Uh, let's see here. I don't know. Hold on. I don't know why the PDFs are not showing. So, I'm going to close everything. Still not showing. So, we're looking at the board of adjustments. uh we've had quite a few variance um applications come through and one in particular which I won't get into um was approved and I and Darren and I were here and we kind of talked about it and we said we really need to have a uh city attorney here to argue the what is a hardship and what is not a hardship when it comes to these appeals. Uh it was granted. We didn't think it was a hardship. So, we looked at mainly how much we charge to cover the cost for having the city attorney and um we looked at our rate that we pay. We looked at how much we charge or how much we have to pay to send letters out. We have to post in the Missuran and all of those things. So, normal like we've been charging only

$60. Um, and I've looked at other entities I, you know, like New Haven and um, uh, Union and Wildwood, and they're they're all charging different rates, but $60 is a steal. So, I think it's time that we increase our uh, fee to the $300, which is kind of in the middle. Um, some of them were as high as $750, but the lowest I I saw was $250. So, that being said, we're just asking for that fee change. The process is not going to change except that we are going to ask our city attorney to be in attendance so that when that conversation comes up about it being a hardship um why we they can't meet the requirements of the code, you know, he can have a better argument um for that. So, this is this is the first one uh that um I'm I'm asking you guys to approve for a code change on our fees. And surprisingly, in my research, we're the only ones that actually put the fee in the code. So, other entities do not put the fee in the code and I had to pull their applications offline to find out what their fee is. Yeah. Which means they may change. They can just change it. Well, that's not good. Transparency here in Washington. Exactly. For real, guys. We were going in the hole when someone would request a variance. And that's not right. No. No. That means our taxpayers are footing the bill for an individual's request. That's not right. Agreed. Do you need a mo I think it's a great idea. I would entertain a motion. Yeah, I will I will motion that we that we increase the fees as stated. Second. Motion made by Carolyn, seconded by Roko, that we uh increase the fees from $60 to $300 for the appeals to the board

of adjustments. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it. Okay, very good. And then, and unfortunately, I can't project this, but um I'll figure out why uh but not right now. But you should have in your packet is the matrix for our uh permitted uses. And thankfully I went through and highlighted everything so you can see um what I was focused on. So kind of came to our attention that we have a C2 overlay district which is that fifth street corridor but it doesn't have its own uh column. It actually is considered part of the C2. And if you look at all the permitted uses or even the special use um per uh you could get a special use permit for some of the uses like if it like a drive-thru, right? If you need a special use permit to have the drive-thru because it's, you know, not a fivecar stack, then they could do that in the C2 overlay as well as the C2. So looking at that, I thought, well, we we should address this one because we're trying to revitalize Fifth Street into a walkable, pedestrian friendly type of environment. And if it's if it's in the same category as C2, well, you you're thinking of your 147 corridor that allows for huge parking lots and lots of cars. Do we want that same type of use in C2 overlay? So, we're not making any changes right now. I don't have an ordinance or anything for, you know, to send to council, but I wanted to bring that to your attention and have you guys look at some of the um the suggestions that I'm making uh for the C2 overlay. And when I looked at C3 while I was going through it, I thought, well, this is pretty much the same thing. C3 is our

downtown core uh district and that's what we want to do is expand that downtown to include Jefferson and Fifth Street. So why not make those almost one and the same. So um the first thing I looked at was um the dwellings the single family attached which I high I wrote a P and I highlighted that. So we have, you know, a lot of residential in our C3. And to say that we don't allow single family attached, but we allow multif family, I was kind of confused as why we wouldn't allow like, you know, uh, two, you know, like the like our town homes kind of thing. So we do have some PDRs with those. Why don't we just expand that to our C3 and our C2 overlay? So that was my first suggestion there to add that. Um, but then we go further in and there's a lot that I thought, well, let's start taking out some of this stuff. So, we're looking at the automobile and other motor vehicle repair service and body shops. Currently, right now, it's permitted with an asterisk, which means in the code it says, you know, you're permitted as long as you're not, you know, you got to get a special use permit if you're within 50 feet of a residential district. Um I I would think that all those types of uses should be a special use permit. They should come to us no matter where they are to um in proximity to residential that it should go through that special use permit. So um that's what the S stands for there. Uh and then I was looking at the automobile and truck rental services. So you're kind of thinking of the U-Haul over there on Fifth Street. Do we want to see a bunch of U-Haul vehicles on Fifth Street or downtown? So, I took that out as uh let's get rid of that one. Um the

automobile tire parts and accessories and supplies, retail or repair. Again, you know, we have some of those uses. They're they're not um you know, too overwhelming or overbearing, but I still think they should go through a special use permit process if they're going to if we're going to add some more of those to our uh C2 overlay district in downtown. Um automobile wash and detailing services are club car wash. Is that what we want? So, I put a big X through that like let's not I don't even want to see that in C1. C1 is neighborhood commercial. I mean, do we want car wash in a neighborhood? So, those are places or uses that you would see further on 100. And even our East Fifth Street where we have Club Car Wash, that's an issue. And they were approved and now the neighborhood the neighbors are, you know, up in arms because they can't get into their neighborhood because it blocks the street. Sarah, on that though, real quick. I mean, when you're talking about auto automobile wash and detail services. Yeah. I mean, if a guy has a business, that's all he does is a, you know, one or two vehicles. Is that still that type of business then and stuff too or is what type of permit would he have? So, are you talking about the one that that he travels and he goes to? No, I'm talking about, you know, we were just talking about MacArthur. Okay. across the street is that what Obermark Commodities or whatever it is. And then right next to that used to be um plumbing, but now there's a guy in there that you know in there he does car wash and detailing and stuff. So it's like you bring the car there and he does wash and detailing and stuff. That's what I'm referring to is what type of business. So, I mean, we could write it in the code where it's limited to, but if we

allow it, it could grow into a bigger business. Well, I know. I'm I'm just, you know, that's what I'm pointing out. I mean, I mean, he's got one vehicle or maybe another one parked that he's going to be doing later or two vehicles parked or something like that. It's going to be about it. Isn't there one at the old Dixon motor up there where the the glass company in the front? I think on the bays on the side. I think he does. I think he does there and stuff also actually in the base and I mean it's not like exactly it's not like fit in that I mean fits well in there because he's not a but it's it's doing the same thing. He's he's doing an automotive wash and detail in a vehicle. It's a whole different It's a whole different amount of amount of work and process that he's doing compared to a club car wash, right? So maybe we could just say um you know like again we can reward it as a detailing service and we could just say limited to you know x number of cars or something but then you would have to continuously make sure and monitor that and make sure it doesn't expand into something bigger because we've allowed it and then they start but if you only allow so many vehicles and and it's again would be probably complaint driven by you know now all of a sudden he's got 10 cars out there. Yeah. And the neighbors complaining about, you know, it's like, well, then you could shut him down because, you know, you're only going to allow, you know, three or four vehicles at the very most or two or three or whatever is and stuff like that, you know. Uh I think you could still define something. You require a special use permit though. I mean, we could do it that way, too. Yeah. It'd be a lot easier to revoke the special use permit, right? Than to just shut them down. That way if they they have to come before us and explain what they're doing, we'll know the property, whether it fits in, you know, instead of not completely allow it all together,

but use a special use permit allow up to say three vehicles or whatever and stuff like that on premises or something, you know, and it's a handwash type of Yeah. facility as opposed to Yeah. You're putting cars through the right an automated car wash system. Yeah. I mean, we could do that and and all all these use uses that are currently in use, they wouldn't they would just be legally non-conforming. Then we wouldn't have Well, true. I understand that. I It's just But I just, you know, I'd hate to to now limit somebody that's going to use the back of somebody else's building and now I can't do it because all else I'm going to do is wash some cars and stuff, you know? It's it's and that's fair. Yeah. Yeah. This is all a discussion right now and um but yeah, that's what I'm just thinking of is something like that. So that goes back to the auto mo mobile and truck rental place too. There's that one on Fifth Street just west of um the U-Haul trucks. That's very nicely done. The roundabout drive around town. Yeah. Uh roundabout. Roundabout. Round and about something like that. I forget the exact name. It's the old DX station or something. Yeah. So, but are those are those I thought those were like a taxi service. Yeah. Weren't they more of a taxi than a I'm not sure. It's a it's a taxi service. Is it senior a lot of senior seniors use that service? But I do think the idea of maybe shifting it obviously from where it is now where it's permissible to special use permit just for now and then maybe if we really want to NYX all of it they can be grandfathered in those two specific businesses but then we make sure it doesn't continue to expand. I and I think when you're when you're looking at these codes it's your the vision of what you see for that fifth street corridor. you want to see see more even though they're smaller uses like they're not

like club car wash but they are still you're looking at cars getting worked on getting sold getting rented I mean just looking on all these cars is that when we go to redevelop are we redeveloping it and then allowing the same use or we say now we can build something else here instead once that business leaves there's that um I don't remember Henry's or somebody that's out on West Fifth and it's right across a lot of different from uh it's next to the martial arts thing and I mean those really leak into the street. Um uh he does car Yeah. And that's an odd spot. I don't know. I was not on here when he he started, but um anybody familiar with that? He always has a VW that's always sitting out there and it kind of bleeds out into the fifth street. They're really jammed in there. Um, and I've often thought that's a kind of an odd spot. Scobby Plumbing is right next to us. Yes. Yeah, they share the building. Thomas, so I mean definitely change will take some time, but I think it makes sense. Yeah. To think about what do we want to see overall? Yeah. You know, so there's a few more um the drivethrus and the drive-ins. uh whether it's a fivec car stack or whether it's not and requires a special use permit. Um I just put in there that we you know the drive-ins and the drive-thrus on Fifth Street. That's just a lot of cars in and out in that area downtown um C3. We had the old US Bank drive-thru and the new owners of that wanted to do continue doing a drive-thru for their their new use. And I'm like, "No, you this is not going to work." Because they wanted to kind of loop around and and then go in front of

the US Bank to get their coffee delivered. And I'm just imagining just the chaos of the cars trying to like get through that. Yeah. There's no room for that. Just to say outright, "No, we're not doing any drive-throughs whatsoever. This is not what our downtown walkable district is for. It's not for drive-thru. You can walk up and get what you need, park somewhere, hopefully in a parking garage one day, but make and spend the whole day shopping and then come and leave. Yes. Get your steps in. So, um, that I cross those out as things. But again, if you feel like we have to accommodate a little bit there, you know, we again, we still have the special use permit for that. Um, and then just like the drive-thrus, the gasoline stations, you know, think of Fisers, and I know it's a probably a staple here in Washington, but that that scares me. That in and out in all different directions. I mean, I get my guests there and I like getting my guests because it's by my house, so I don't have to go very far, but going in and out of that with the traffic on Elm and on Fifth and everybody's, you know, it's I just think one day there's going to be an accident. It's very tight, and you need a lot more space uh to accommodate all the the activity that happens at a gas station. The BP there on on 47 and Fifth Street is is no better. Yeah. I mean, you're sitting there coming out of there trying to to get whether you're going to be turning left or turning right or or going straight and you're coming in and out and it's like that's that's no better there and stuff, you know? Right. Yes. So, if we're trying to encourage people to bike and to walk, do we make it more hazardous for them to do that? Right. You know, so, right. Um, so gas stations talked about the drive-throughs. Again, restaurants that are drive-in restaurants like our Sonic.

Um, that could be busier. You know, that restaurant, I don't see a lot of people coming and going, but if we have a really popular restaurant and we allow it and their car is just constantly in and out getting their food. Um, I don't know. I think that it's we can have restaurants and you can park but that that constant circulation of cars like think of Hardies, you know, and things like that. Um well well if you had a a Panera or Breadco or something writing in there and stuff too I mean you'd be the same thing because they would have a drive-thru and stuff and it's just it's just not very conducive for or anything like that. Yeah. another another any of those small things that you still have a drive-thru, you're still going to be creating that that problem doing that. Right. Sarah, what's the per the asterk on the P? It means that there's stipulations that um it's usually if it butts up to residential and they they have certain requirements that they have to meet if they're butt up to residential, but it's still permitted without permitted permit. Yeah, just permitted. But if they're I think it's 50 ft of residential, they have to get a special use permit. Okay. Yeah, that's what the asterisk says. And just because of the added noise and activity, I mean like you you're thinking I'm thinking of Rothschild. I mean it's a restaurant. You drive in, you park. It's not constant movement of cars that is creating a hazard for people that are walking or trying to get to that restaurant. It's a it's a very static. You know, you've got a parking lot there. Um, so it's it's a little bit of a different type of use and um I think danger is Yeah, I' I'd argue a little bit the way that parking lot is since you come in and park there and then you're backing out right across people walking across and the traffic and everything else. Historically, yeah, have had a lot of the curb cuts all the

way, you know, the whole property so they can just back out onto Fifth Street. Yeah, that's that was bad design in the past and I know we've changed that. Um we don't allow that anymore, but uh hopefully redevelopment will will come back to a safer type of of you know driving in and not being able to just back out onto the street. We have a Yeah, kind of like our um our pharmacy. Can't think of the name of it right now. Traders. Traders. Thank you. Yeah. Ask a question. Yeah. Ma'am, would you come up to the microphone, please, and state your name and address for the record? Yeah. Pull the mic down. Pull the mic down. Pull the mic down toward you. There you go. Now we can hear you. Becky Meyer. I live on Coke Cattle Drive. Um, the nursing home on Fifth Street across from the Tilted Skillet Cedar Crest. Yes, I understand that that's been I I'm a new resident of Washington. I just moved here last summer, but I was told that it's been closed for years. I mean, am I correct? Close it down. It's closed five years. And that's a prime area right there on Fifth Street. And we we like the Tilted Skillet, but you know, getting in and out of there, parking is Yeah. scary. Yeah. But I just wondered about that. So there is a a new owner of that and so there is plans for changes there. Right. Yeah. We just don't we haven't come to that point yet where we're saying what's going to happen. Okay. So I don't want to speak out of turn but yeah it has been bought. Oh good. All right. Thank you. Yeah. So I think that is pretty much the extent of where I felt like you know

first of all C2 overlay needs its own identity and not necessarily just oh I'm just part of C2 um and that it we move towards a more uh vibrant less car centric kind of feel for that uh corridor. So, I left a lot. Oh, I Oh, I'm sorry. I missed a couple. Storage and warehousing of household goods. Um, I can't think of an example. Well, I can think of the storage units over here on third that they definitely need to be gone. Um, but I can't think of any other use that is like not so alarming. I mean, that is just the ugliest thing in downtown. Sorry if anyone here knows the owners, but it's just not attractive. It's You shouldn't put that in a downtown core. Herb Dill. No, it was Roger Langorf. Oh, was Roger. Yeah, he had a car wash. Okay. Yeah. So, that was something I think even I think the mayor came to me about that. So, getting rid of that is um and then the taxi. Okay. So, the taxi uh we were talking about the roundabout town uh garing and maintenance. I'm not sure if that's exactly the same uses that we're talking about, but making that a special use permit um to say, you know, let's look at it and see how intensive this use will be before we just willingly say a good a good selection for the what they had the garage, the filling station, parking, and and she's really good. She doesn't it doesn't encroach onto the road at all. Yeah. Yeah. Future development. Is that something we want to continue? No. Right. 10 years down the road. That's not there anymore. And that was an autocentric. That was the main thoroughare. I mean, you're

going to have all those uses there because more filling stations there too. Exactly. Yes. But we're growing up and the cars are moving to 100 and we need to have people on the ground and people biking and feeling comfortable that they're going to be able to get through our new downtown expansion, you know, losing their lives. Great. Sometime Sarah. So, yep. So in your letter you talk about um establishing front build to line in place of setbacks but then your next part is require cross lot access between parcels. So you're trying to say just connect if somebody's got uh parking lot in the front or the back and stuff or I'm assuming that's kind of what you're meaning is is to so you have fewer again as you're talking about cuts into the curb so that you're coming through and you can access these different places. So you're you're imagining the storefronts are the the only thing that you see and all the cars are behind and so that there's really only a couple ways to get in and out. It's not like every lot's going to have an entrance or an exit. Sort of like downtown with the uh main street. You sit there and you're parking on the back side of Right. with very little parking right on the street in the front kind of exactly like that. Okay. So that front build two line, where would that be if we didn't have setbacks? So that would be the property line at the street. Then we need to make sure that at the intersections we have that right just like in the C3 we have that right already. So we make those making sure that we keep that because that line of sight is very important. Yes. Agreed.

It's a whole other code change though. Our C2 overlay, we we don't we have the setback the 25 ft. So, okay. And a part of this too, would you require sidewalks on one side, both sides? A new development? Yeah, on the new development. Yeah, that would be the goal. I don't want anyone having to walk in the street. I think Fifth Street. Yeah, I think we're pretty much covered for Fifth Street. Everywhere from 47 to Is it to street? I No, it goes all the way to Grand. I think Grand. That's good. Okay. I don't want Fifth Street. Maybe one I spend a lot of time on Fifth Street. Well, I run up and down Fifth Street. You know, the sidewalks aren't great, but they're there. So, 47 sidewalks on Third Street now. Yes. It's on the right. It's on the north side, right? Right. One thing about Fifth Street, it has a little of anything and a lot of everything. Yes. Yeah, that's true. So, it'll be a challenge. Yes. We hope this fifth street corridor study that PGAB is doing will really shed some light on some things that we can be proactive to make those changes faster. I agree. Yeah. So again, I don't have anything to take to council. We don't have an ordinance or anything. I just really wanted you all to kind of put in your head what you see for the fifth street corridor. You know, it's already part of the comprehensive plan. We are already working towards it. But if we allow certain uses to proliferate, then what's the point, you know, and like I said before, we had a a variance request for

something that was against the plan even and obviously against code and it was allowed. So, we're we're really looking to just kind of get harder on what we want there, what we don't want there. So we can come back um and just finalize our preferences and make a move for that. Makes sense. Any other questions or concern? I think that's a great concept. Yes. Agreed. Future problems. I would rather be on the front end of correct instead of reacting to the study. Let's think about in in conjunction with the study, but also we know we're going to have to make these changes. Let's go ahead and make them. Can I say something, you guys? I'm I know it's late and we're all tired. Um, I grew up on Fifth Street, 200 East Fifth Street, Caddy Corner of the Old Dixon Motor Company. I remember as a kid, we had a front porch with a swing out. People would walk by. Yeah, Highway 100 was Fifth Street back then, but there were sidewalks on both sides and this was maybe it was, you know, maybe I'm old, I don't know. People would walk by and they would stop and talk to my parents and my grandparents. And I think if we do things right, by bringing housing back, by bringing good businesses back, by having our codes right, which they weren't back then, which is why we lost so many wonderful houses on Fifth Street for Burger Chefs. Good God. Anyway, um that's why we move we moved out to Dena Road when Burger Chef went

in cuz it's so noisy. Traffic was increased. It was dangerous little kids and the people stopped walking down walking down on Fifth Street and my god, I want to I want that back for my grandkids and my kids and I I would hope everybody in town would like that, too. So, that's why we're doing Fifth Street. It's exciting. Yeah, me too. Okay. Anything else? Do you want more? No. Okay. No. Thank you. This I think is the longest meeting we've had for a long time. A long time. I mean, it was a ton of information. So much wasitting in the right direction. So, if nothing else, a motion to adjourn. I'll second it. Motion made by Chuck, seconded by Mark to adjurnn. All those in favor signify by saying I. I.