Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Having my go-to people that can actually like physically come over and stuff every month. Let's see March and April. Wow. And then um I know crazy. We'll probably have one. A lot going on. Yeah. Other people not liking our code apparently. Yikes. She was I was supporting most of them except for the last one we had. I absolutely was against it. Well, call the planning and zoning commission meeting for Monday, April 14th, 2025 to order. Roll call, please. Marco Gonzalez here. Mark Clayner, Mark Pontek, here. Tom Hmar, here. Mayor Haggedorn here. John Borman here. Chuck Watson, Chad Briggs, Carolyn Wit here, Mike Wood here, Sask here. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. First item on the agenda agenda is the approval of the minutes from the March 10th, 2025 meeting. So move. Second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? So moved. Next two items relate to each other. File number 25401, the reasonzoning of 4151 and 4153 Jane Lane. And item number four, file number 25402, preliminary clap. 4151 and 4153 Jane Lane. Sarah. Okay. So this is another same same that we had last time we met uh reszoning going from a two family to a single family attached

zoning district as you can see in this map. The neighborhood is actually a mix of both. So it is uh a changing zoning I think that we're going to see a lot more often. uh the two family is not a uh popular for the mortgage industry is not wanting to loan money on two family for one side. So this is driving this this change. Um we again here's a an aerial view of it. You can see you know uh the variety of the different types of zoning there uh with the lot lines the zero lot lines. So there's some some interesting drawings just like in the last one. there was some uh push back for the lot size. They didn't want to, you know, lose part of their property. So, in this case, luckily that the way the line is going to be drawn, we are going to have the appropriate lot size, the appropriate setbacks, everything is going to meet code for that R1C. So, it's it's an a clearcut, you know, change to the R1C. And you have the language in there for the sewer, right? So moving on, looking at the preliminary plat again, here is the parcel. Uh we don't go out to verify if there is separate lines, but we do have verbiage that will go on the plat that says that they are responsible for that line if they share one. We did go out to make sure that they had separate curb stops because that is probably something we should be looking at too, that they have uh their own separate line for water um since they will be different owners. Uh, and they did they have separate meters and then separate curb stops. So that's that's uh helps with that when they have issues down the road and they need to turn one side off. Uh, so this is what the preliminary plat looks like. And again, the lot width is 40T at the front property line. The setbacks are 25 ft front and rear. Again, you have the sixt set back on the

side, but the zero lot line in the middle. And then each lot is about 6,9 6,98 square ft. So right in there when that mark any other questions or comments by board I'll entertain a motion or if there's anybody in the audience that would like to speak on this. I'm here for this. You can come up if you want to speak. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, just introduce yourself. Yeah, my name is Brian S. I'm with EXP Reality. I'm the realtor for everybody involved in the conversation. So, um, when this was created, it was set up to be a condominium, but there was documents recorded, but there was no board created. There was no deed created to deed any property to the condominium. So, you have a condominium association that only exists because of one recorded document. The people that have owned it have always operated as if they were single family attached, and they weren't aware they weren't single family attached. Um, so when they bought it, they thought they were buying single family attached. And now when it comes to sale and with lending, it came up that there was a document recorded for a condominium association that doesn't exist other than that one recorded document. There was a debate for a while. I used to work in engineering and surveying and there was a debate for a while between different municipalities of what was the correct way to handle the the duplexes. And so I think What happened is the conversation shifted between the time ground broke and the property was sold. And so they started with it, but then by the time they sold it, opinion changed. So they just kind of ignored it. Okay. All right. Right. Thanks. Thank you. Anyone else? There's no further comments. I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve.

I'll second. All those in favor? I. Any oppose? So move. Any other business? Um, yeah, there's actually a couple things that have come up recently. Um, and it's just looking at code revisions. So, just giving a heads up that we're having conversations internally. The first is our board of adjustments. We need to look at how we approach that and the fee. So, mainly the fee. So, we've discussed bringing um counsel to our meetings so that they can um speak more to the legal side of the code and and and argue that better than I can or Charles. We had one today um on storm water. So, we're bringing him on board. And then, of course, you know, we have to recoup those costs. So, the fees have to change. Right now, it's $60 for variance. and it we feel like um anybody will go ahead and do it because you know what's that 60 bucks right so we spend a lot more money notifying the missurrian staff fees um the meetings and those kinds of things so we really yeah and we need to pay for legal counsel so so those are that's going to come down the line so that's an easy one um the other one came up recently and I this has been on the back of my mind since I came here um code revisions concern concerning the downtown district and the C2 overlay specifically. Um the car centric uses that are allowed or given a use if there's a special uh permit approval. Um things like the drive-throughs if they don't have a fivecar stack, you know, they can get a special use permit. But if they have a fivecar stack, sure, go ahead. Do we want that downtown? Do we want that on Fifth Street? Can we handle that? you know, if it, you know, we see that at exit 111, they're not on Fifth Street, but they have cars coming out

onto the street. Is that what we want on on our Fifth Street corridor? Um, car washes. We allow car washes. Do we really want cars to come through and wash their cars and have that kind of an appealing, you know, uh, activity in our downtown, in our fifth street corridor? So there's things that we allow right now that if somebody came and had property and said, "Hey, I want to go ahead and build this." We can't say no. And so I would love to come and say here's what we need to remove from our um uh C3 district outright and then we need to re look at our C2 overlay because right now and I was just talking to Mark because I'm still kind of confused but our matrix for our uses there is no column for the C2 overlay. So basically falls into whatever C2 allows. We'll see too. You're thinking 100 47 those big box stores. Is that the uses that we want to see on Fifth Street? So the that's the question that I'm asking. Do you want me to pursue these kinds of changes, bring you some code changes and and vote on that? I I think we need to do that because your the traffic problems that the car wash has created, what was club car wash and now for the city and for the residents that are down in that, you know, I think I think we definitely don't want something like that on Fifth Street. Uh and I think yeah, we probably need to take a look at that in my opinion. Yeah. And we're trying to move the fifth street corridor more into a more uh a downtown corridor where there's more walkability, smaller shops, uh closer to each other, not a whole spread of parking lots, residential. We're trying to increase that. So to eliminate part of our comp plan, right? Exactly. Yeah, that's going to be my

next question. It's part of the comp plan, I'm pretty sure, to move towards this. That was the first one. The second one is, have we talked, I guess, to Tyler King from downtown Washington about ideas he might have? I'm not sure about code specific maybe, but I think it could be a good collaboration. Oh, yeah. And we do the main street conferences and that's definitely when I was on the board, um, it's always been moving towards Fifth Street to enlarge our downtown to include that. So, I mean, that's on their radar as well. They don't have, you know, the the code enforcement and that sort of thing, but they're very conscious of that and wanting to that to be part of what they considered their downtown area. Not necessarily a historic area, but just an economic engine in the historic war, which it is old. It's not the highway. So, and we have open space. Yes, that's the big thing, actually. And we and we need to be ready, right? That's the thing. It comes because you know it's going to come. Yep. Yeah. So this good. Okay. Do you need a motion? Um I don't think so. I think I'm just letting you know. Work your magic, Sarah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll try. Yeah. But I'm happy, too, because I've been I've highlighted all those things in that matrix since day one. I'm like, "Oh, let's attack that one." So, I am excited. Now's the time. And then you'll get your comprehensive plan update uh next month. We're working on a presentation. Um a lot of it is economic development. So Erin will be here and he'll present with me. Uh but there's uh quite a bit for us to tackle. So make sure you guys are here and ready for a good show. So do you want to give us an update from our meeting with the developers on culdeacs? Yes. So we're also doing street connectivity. We're um we just started.

We had our first steering committee meeting. Um I presented all the reasons why street connections are important and all the factors involved with um how subdivisions uh have kind of turned into this again carentric environment where there's only one way in one way out. It's not really safe to walk. Um so we did have a conversation and I think that um most of our participants we had Vic developer Cameron from Wonderlick um a couple board members um Bridgewwater was going to come and they forgot but they're still interested. Kurt was going to come and he is coming to the next one. So we have a few more uh voices. We did have a real estate agent also and they they all agreed that this was um something that they really didn't think about before or talk about and did appreciate the conversation and in in my uh feel of the the back and forth. They're open to making compromises. So, we're going to come to a compromise. I feel it's it's important and and I I have faith that we're we're going to rain back on the many culde-sacs that we are putting in our developments. So that's the hope. That's good. It's just tough with our topography and like that to work around that and still get the conductivity that we need, especially going east and south. They were going west' be different, but be so bad. someday. That's all flat ground over there someday. Yeah. So, we'll meet again the first week of May. That's good. The only thing uh Mr. Chairman, I would like to say is uh thank you, mayor, for reappointing me to the commission for another four years. Uh tonight starts my 16th year.

Wow. Of serving on the commission. So, thank you and the council for doing that this week. Is basically a no-brainer. Well, thank you. I appreciate your a little more thought on my reb council member. I'm humbled by your support and uh I'll continue to do what I can do to serve in this position. Thank you. You're welcome. Easy call. Any other comments? Entertain one last motion. Motion to adjurnn. Second. All those in favor? I I move. This is a record. Yeah, I'm impressed. And I did a lot of talking this time. And we have a mayor coffee with the mayor in the morning. Yes, we do. to be fun.