City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening, everyone. Welcome to our meeting on Tuesday, August 18th. Michelle Baer, could you make the call, please?

Councilor De Larza.

Present.

Councilor Higda.

Present.

Councilor Butler. Councilor Scott. Mayor-Adjoint Young. Councilor Lofren. Present. Mayor Crocker.

Please rise and join me for the sermons of allegiance, followed by a minute of silence. To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic that it represents. A nation under the aegis of God, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all. I pledge allegiance to Texas, a state. And indivisible. Thank you. Please sit down. Very well. Once again, welcome everyone.

We have an order of the day tonight.

Before we start, I would like to make a brief announcement of procedures. At the request of the staff, we withdraw point E3 of the points at the order of the day of the council tonight and we will see it reappear at a later meeting. It is therefore withdrawn for tonight. This being said, M. Garza announces and recalls. What do you have for us tonight? Good evening, Mr. Mayor, dear Councilor. To complete this note, we plan to submit this point again during our ordinary meeting on September 1st. It was important to do so while we approved the issuance of the obligations that will contribute to financing it. It would therefore be preferable to treat these two points during the meeting on September 1st. We respect the schedule. The first stone break ceremony will take place on September 2 at 9 a.m. and we hope that everyone will join us. Some additional announcements from the communication service. A new episode of Turn Talk with Keisha Smith, Head of Special Projects, Emma-Inne Crocker, Member of the Council of Young Mayors, is available on YouTube and Spotify. We invite residents to discover how the Council of Young Mayors allows students to acquire a direct experience of municipal leadership and community service, while developing skills that will enhance their academic background. In addition, we explore some of the crucial questions of life, such as which one is the best, TikTok or Instagram? The only good answer being, of course, Myspace. A cette fin, pour ceux qui souhaitent rejoindre le Conseil des Jeunes du Maire pour 2026-2027, les candidatures seront closes le lundi 31 août. Les étudiants nouveaux dans le programme doivent joindre une lettre de recommandation à leur candidature. Pour plus d'informations ou pour postuler, visitez victoriax.gov slash youth council ou contactez Keisha Smith au 361 casse 85 30 30 30. In the name of the Municipal Court, do you know everything you need to know about the installation of an auto seat to ensure that your most precious load arrives safely at your destination? Otherwise, make sure to sign up for the next courses on auto seats organized by the Municipal Court in collaboration with SJRC Texas on Tuesday, September 1 at 10 a.m. at the Municipal Court located in our Public Safety seat. For more information, you can contact the municipal court at 361-485-350 or send a personal email to courtclerk at aguabsvictoriatics.gov. In the name of environmental services, we would like to invite the community to participate in our sixth major annual cleaning operation in the fall, Keep Victoria Beautiful Camp, which will take place on Saturday, September 19, at 8 a.m. in partnership with the Texas program Adopt the Highway Equinox. The individuals and groups are encouraged to register in advance on victoriatx.gov.uk to plan the different volunteer sites in the community. Is this date correct?

That's why I asked the question.

Darren told us about September 12 this morning. In fact, on behalf of the police department, the Victoria Police Service will organize a free lunch and lunch program on Wednesday, August 19, from 11h30 to 13h00 at the community center. The subject will be the driving education program for seniors Silver and Safeco presented by Pamela Edwards of the Texas A&M AgriLife vulgarization service. Lunch is included. Participants are asked to register in advance on victoriatics.gov. And finally, we ask for our police service. They started planning our National Night Out and our fair on community security, scheduled on Saturday, September 26, from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. at De Leon Plaza. For any questions or to register your organization at a stand, please contact the Community Engagement Unit at police.gov or by phone at 361-485-288. And that's all I have for tonight, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Garza. Let's move on to public recognition and employees. We are a little confused about our usual procedure tonight. You may remember that the organization justserve.org has recently recognized the city with very nice distinctions and rewards. They are back tonight and I believe that Ms. Christine Olsen is present as a representative. Ms. Olsen, please go ahead. We have a few other special awards and rewards tonight and, at my invitation, they are here to give them back. So I give you the floor.

Thank you very much, Mr Mayor and members of the Council. We thank you for giving us a few minutes to be here today. As mentioned, we are here to represent JustServe. It is an international platform focused on the community, which relates organizations that have needs with individuals and groups that want to do volunteer work. Dans le cadre de l'initiative America 250, America Gives a Mean de cette année, nous célébrons le 250e anniversaire de notre pays, tout en encourageant le service communautaire. Une distinction spéciale a été créée, appelée le K of Service Award Agir. Le prix Heart of Service, honneur des personnes extraordinaires dont l'engagement renforce les communautés, inspire les autres à servir et créer un impact durable, They reward those who gather people, lead with integrity and generosity and help to build a culture of benevolence that strengthens our nation. There are only 100 of these commemorative medals that are placed throughout the country. I'll let you see what they look like. They wear the America 250 symbol on one side and the Just Serve symbol on the other. And today, we are honored to recognize two people from our community who embody these qualities through their disinterested service, their leadership and their dedication towards others. It is a privilege for us to give each of them the America 250 and Just Serve Heart of Service prize. Our first recipient of air is Christy Joker. She has shown an extraordinary commitment to strengthen our community through the service of collaboration. Christy worked tirelessly to organize and give life to the celebration of Victoria's 200th anniversary in 2024, especially during the Victoria Day of Caring. It was an incredible collaboration between the city and multiple non-profit organizations. Plus de 530 bénévoles se sont réunis pour servir, apportant leur aide à 16 organisations et réalisant environ 26 projets communautaires différents. L'engagement de Christy envers le service ne s'est pas arrêté là. Grâce au projet continu de Keep Victoria Beautiful, aux reconnaissances exceptionnelles des bénévoles et aux événements en leur honneur, Christy a aidé à créer une culture durable de service et de fierté communautaire à Victoria. It is thanks to the leadership and dedication of Christy that our city has won the JustServe City in Gay award last April and we are one of the only ten cities in the state of Texas to have this recognition. Christy, thank you for your constant efforts to gather people, inspire others to serve and make our community a better place. You truly embody the heart of the service.

Can we take a picture?

It was totally unexpected, really.

For you.

I mean... First of all, when JustServe approached Keep Victoria Beautiful Environmental Services a few years ago, they came with this incredible offer.

We just want to help create more volunteers in your community, everywhere, not only for Keep Victoria Beautiful, but everywhere. And an easy platform, a beautiful and sincere way to do it.

And it made sense. And it was the simplest way we could do it. It made sense on our platforms. It made sense in many ways.

So when we launched it, just after the bicentenary, it was obvious, it was just serve. And all their partners mobilized to make it all happen. It was a passionate work that Thank you very much to all of you.

Elle a consacré sa carrière à renforcer nos communautés, à autonomiser les individus par l'éducation et à s'attaquer de front à l'insécurité alimentaire. En tant que présidente directrice générale de la Food Bank of the Golden Crescent, elle dirige un effort étendu sur onze comtés transformant la générosité de notre communauté en millions de repas pour les enfants, les familles et les seniors dans le besoin. Robin's commitment to serving others far exceeds her work at the food bank through her role within the Regional Consultative Council of the President of the UHV as Treasurer of Feeding Texas and in multiple management roles where she presides over many civic and charitable, local and regional organizations. She continually finds ways to make a difference and bring people together. Sa vie reflète les qualités mêmes que représente ce pays. Service des intéressés, leadership visionnaire, générosité et un engagement profond à renforcer la communauté que nous appelons tous notre foyer. Veuillez vous joindre à moi pour honorer ce véritable pilier de la communauté de Crossroads et un exemple remarquable du cœur au service des autres, Robin Cadel.

Certainly.

Thank you very much. And thank you to the right Robin. Do you want to say a few words?

I would love to say a few words. Je ne sais juste pas lesquels, à part vous dire merci beaucoup. Vous avez raison, Christy. Ils nous ont pris par surprise, n'est-ce pas? Oui, c'est vrai. On m'a dit que je devais être là, j'ai demandé pourquoi et on m'a répondu, oh, nous ne pourrons pas vous le dire. Et la personne qui m'a dit ça n'est pas là. Alors oui, merci beaucoup. Je suis très bénie de pouvoir faire ce que je fais et j'aime mon travail. Et encore une fois, merci.

Congratulations to the two laureates, simply deserved. And thank you to JustServe.org for their commitment to our community. So, thank you. Very well, M. Garza, I think we have other public and employee recognitions to address tonight.

Yes sir, just a few more things. I would like to highlight some promotions as well as a recent hiring within our parks and leisure services. First of all, I would like to congratulate Juan Guardo for his promotion to the post of Deputy Attorney-General of BOLF. Juan, if you could stand up please. Juan started his career at Riverside Golf Course in 1991. Over the years, Juan's reliability and solid work ethic made him the only person on whom managers and colleagues could count. Juan developed an expertise in the use and repair of equipment, the programming and repair of irrigation, personnel planning and, above all, team leadership. Juan has always been recognized for being reliable, consistent and fair, both in the attribution of responsibilities and in the requirement of the same standards, raised for all. Juan's experience and leadership will play an important role in the positioning of the Riverside Golf Course for future improvements. In his new role as Deputy Superintendent, Juan will help with daily operations, team coordination, course maintenance activities and support for the global objectives of the maintenance team. Juan, congratulations on your promotion. The Park Service is also present here. Another promotion, I would like to recognize John McQuiston, if you could stand up. John started his career with the City of Victoria in 2011, as a Park Service Park Maintenance Officer. Over the years, John has expanded his knowledge and expertise, obtaining licenses from the Texas Department of Agriculture for landscape maintenance, public health, vector control, vegetation management, and aquatic pests control. He has also developed a knowledge and an in-depth experience in the use and repair of irrigation systems. We are delighted to announce that John has made his way and now takes on a leadership role that will help to direct the division of parks in new and positive directions. As team leader, John will ensure daily leadership, will coordinate tasks, ensure their safe and efficient execution, and will support the maintenance, the aspect and the overall quality of the city's park system. We are proud to salute the dedication, experience and commitment of John to the service of the citizens of Victoria. Thank you, John.

Congratulations on your promotion.

Finally, we welcome Ken Gallagher, our new recruiter as Park Supervisor. Ken brings solid experience in park operations, team supervision and project management. Throughout his career, he has led maintenance teams, managed fleets, supervised mining projects and developed operational procedures focused on efficiency, consistency and service quality. Cairn is already a valuable addition to our park service and we are enthusiastic about the experience and leadership it brings as we continue to improve our operations and offer parks and quality leisure spaces to our community. So Cairn, welcome to the city of Victoria. Et c'est tout ce que j'ai pour ce soir, Monsieur le Maire.

Merci, Monsieur Garzat.

Nous passerons ensuite aux points du Conseil. Y a-t-il des points abordés par le Conseil ce soir? J'en vois aucun. Très bien. Nous passons aux communications des citoyens. J'ai deux fiches ce soir. Et juste pour rappel, s'il vous plaît, essayez de limiter vos commentaires à trois minutes. Ce serait très apprécié. Je commencerai avec Diana Cornet.

Good evening. Welcome.

My name is Delena Cornet. You may be wondering why I brought my shoe organizer with me. As a teacher for 46 years in the Lake City region in Texas, surrounded by chemical factories, gas and nuclear facilities in Pasadena, La Porte, Baytown, Seabrook and Texas.

We kept these three there, at the physical education office to manage all the inhalers necessary for the students every time we left. The industry in our region has ruined the quality of the air for children, for citizens, and I moved here for a clean air and a healthy environment. To live in another Calais of cancer and that was not part of my plan. I personally experienced explosions of chemical plants, gas leaks, controlled fires and lockdowns in our schools.

The energy sources of the data centers of IAEA are the largest polluters on the planet. If you never measure the fire, you will never admit that the house is burning.

health, environment and investment. We don't want a company with an attitude like the one we have now and we apologize later. Just look at how Formosa ignores all the rules and pours plastic granules into our coastal navigable roads. Communities are demanding a one-year moratorium on the development of all new proposed data centers as well as on energy sources they require within the limits of the city. The same companies that sold PFAS chemical products for fracturing fluids now sell them as safe cooling liquids for cooling systems, liquid from IA data centers. And that's why we need a national moratorium on data centers now. We need responsible development in our community. The tensions on our electricity network and our water supply will negatively affect family farms, ranches and the future of our rural Texas, where everything is at stake.

And I'm sorry to throw a cold on this beautiful moment for all the rewards, but I had to share it with you. It matters a lot to me. I printed something for you all to share on the subject of the report that I put you today.

Thank you for your comments. My next file is Michael Vander. Thank you.

Mr. Bonnard. Good evening. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and councilors. I am Michael Vendro. I live at 21107 Norsbyn, Jordan. I would like to thank the municipal director because he is the only one to have increased the minimum wage for all the employees of the city of Victoria. I work full-time for $15 an hour. I know Detective Collins has launched a movement and I thank him. I appreciate his efforts. Many people are asking questions, in particular, about salary increases for the employees of the city of Victoria. If a new recruit earns about $200,000 a year, how will this affect the increases and ongoing projects such as public works, the police, the application of codes, the urban planning commission, permits, social benefits, etc.? Some wonder why someone earns $200,000 a year, but it is the price in force for a management assistant. For example, in Bryan, Texas, an adjunct municipal director earns about $200,000 a year. In Austin, an adjunct municipal director earns about $375,000 a year. And a municipal director earns more than $500,000. That's it. But people are simply wondering if their salary increases will be frozen, because many think that it is an important sum, even if it is the market rate. Even if this person has 30 years of experience, she deserves a lot. This is not a beginner, but many people wonder because the typical salary for an employee of the city of Victoria is about 40,000 dollars. C'est moins pour certains, comme un concierge, et plus pour d'autres, comme un directeur homme. Mais tout le monde n'atteint pas le niveau de directeur municipal, d'adjoint ou de directeur. Beaucoup disent que le salaire type est d'environ 40-0, 40-0,5 dollars par an, soit 5 fois moins que ce que gagne ce genre de cadre. Et les gens se posent simplement des questions. Thank you and have a good day. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Vendra. I said I had two cards, but one of them slipped at the last moment. Mrs. Buchanan.

Welcome.

Hello. I think this is the first time I come here without a note.

So, I just want to thank you for all the hard work you have done regarding this data center story. all the questions, the public audience. And I looked at the cards you posted in the agenda.

Et j'espère vraiment que vous opterez pour une distance de 1500 pieds entre tout centre de données et une zone résidentielle. Et oui, je sais qu'il existe plusieurs types de centres de données. Ils ont tous des effets négatifs variés. Je ne suis pas du genre pas dans mon jardin. Ce n'est pas que je n'en veux pas dans mon propre jardin. Je n'en veux dans le jardin de personne. Cela n'aidera la valeur immobilière de personne. Cela n'aidera aucun de nos enfants. Il y a tellement d'autres choses que nous pourrions faire avec nos ressources ici en ville, à ville. Nous vivons dans cette ville magnifique. C'est donc mon espoir. Je tiens à vous en remercier. J'espère que vous retiendrez les 1500 pieds ou un moratoire. I imagine the very positive press that you would have with the voters if Victoria imposed a moratorium on data centers for a few months, until we know more about their effects on our citizens and our environment. So thank you very much.

Thank you for your comments. Very well, on this I close the citizens' communication. We have no point to the public audience. So we move on to our current agenda. Merlin Berg.

Yes sir. Point 1 is the adoption of the Ordinary Reunion Verbal Procedure as of August 1, 2026. Point D2 is a modification and re-adoption of the traffic regulation calendars as provided in various sections of the municipal code. This point is in second and third reading. Point D3 is a resolution approving an interlocal cooperation contract with the Department of Public Security of Texas for the Texas Condemnation Report System. Point D4 is a resolution approving an amendment to the interlocal agreement between the Gulf Beach Center and the Victoria Police Department to increase the total amount available for transport services in mental health to $13,000 until the end of August 2026. Point D5 is a resolution approving the number one modification order of the College Park Street reconstruction project contract with Clark Construction of Texas, Inc., with an additional cost of $125,45,45,47,49. for a total amount of contracts of 7476 in 10 hours. And point D6 is a resolution rejecting all proposals submitted for the maintenance and stabilization project of the West Outfall Creek bridge on West Statham Avenue due to a quantity error in the application documents.

Thank you, Mme Hilbert. Does anyone propose a motion on the time of the day? Motion to approve the time of the day as it has been approved. Approved. We have a motion and an approval of those in favor of it.

Oppositions? The point E1 is a resolution approving a contract with Patio, Branagh Hill, LLP to carry out the annual audit of the city for the exercise closed on September 30, 2026 for an excess of $ 85.5.

That's Whistler's point. But before he introduces our auditor and Audit Office, I would like to take a moment to express our gratitude to Harrison Wendrick, who was the Audit Office that produced our financial reports for over 40 years. They have greatly contributed to the success of the city in terms of its financial distinctions. You have heard us talk about the consecutive decades during which we have received the financial excellence awards of the GFOA and we could not have achieved it without their involvement. We are therefore very grateful for their service to the city of Victoria. I would particularly like to thank Melissa Terry, Elisabeth Bernardon and especially Steve Van Manen, who has been working in the office for a long time and who has a rich history with Gilbert and the city of Victoria. And again, I just wanted to show them our knowledge. We are very grateful for their work, but we are also enthusiastic about the idea of ​​what awaits us. On this, I pass the floor to Wesley.

Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the Council. The point of this evening is to approve the mission letter for our audit of exercise 26. We launched an offer call in June and received 7 responses and a committee composed of myself, the councilor El-Hen and the municipal director Garza selected 3 finalists for interviews in person. Among these 3 finalists, we retained the Brown and Hill office. Tonight, we have Paul Allant who will be the associate manager of the mission to present the office.

Good evening mademoiselle, welcome.

As indicated, I am Paula Le Patio, Brown and Hill, and I am delighted to be here tonight to give you some information about our office and explain a little about who we are. Perhaps you do not know us, but I would like to introduce you to our department and tell you a little about our experience in the field of auditing local administrations. Comme indiqué, nous sommes le cabinet Pat Brown-Hinn. Nous existons depuis 1923. Nous sommes donc présents depuis très longtemps, plus de 100 ans maintenant. Nous possédons des bureaux dans l'État du Texas, répartis sur cinq sites différents. Notre siège social se situe à Waco, Texas. Nous disposons également d'un bureau à Albuquerque, au Nouveau-Mexique. Nous sommes un cabinet d'expertise comptable complet dont l'activité principale est de travailler avec les administrations locales. Nous proposons également des services fiscaux, du conseil aux entreprises et d'autres services de conseil. As mentioned, a group of people were interviewed in this process, and I was one of them as an associate responsible for the mission. Clayton Rogers, our audit manager, also participated in this examination and evaluation process of the accounting offices. En tant qu'associé responsable, je serai impliqué dans le processus pour veiller à ce que les besoins de chacun, y compris ceux de la direction du conseil, soient satisfaits et que notre équipe soit parfaitement adaptée à vos exigences. Clayton, quant à lui, sera plus impliqué dans l'assistance technique auprès de notre équipe pour l'audit et sera disponible pour tout type de réunion. Il possède lui-même plus de 10 ans d'expérience auprès des administrations locales, tout comme moi. Je travaille avec des administrations locales dans tout l'État du Texas depuis plus de 25 ans. Pour vous donner un peu plus d'informations sur notre département, nous comptons plus de 50 professionnels et à certaines périodes de l'année, plus de 70 experts travaillant exclusivement pour des administrations locales. We have five associates who work only with local administrations, as well as several collaborators who have the necessary qualifications for this mission. We therefore have 14 accounting experts who work only with local administrations and several initial certification members, such as the Unique Audit Advanced Certificate. Among the clients with whom we work, listed on the list you have here, you may know a few of them. Of course, we have a certain local presence with our work with the Victoria ISD School District, the Regional Planning Commission of Golden Crescent and the city of Port Lavaca, right next door. But within this department, as mentioned, we work with more than 225 local governments, of which several meet the criteria or present the same characteristics as this city, in particular the need for an annual audit of a service that we provide to about 110 of our customers. As well as other similar missions throughout the state of Texas, Nous avons des clients actuels comme les villes de Claiborne, Beaumont, Conroe et nous avons une expérience préalable avec d'autres grandes villes. Voilà donc un bref aperçu de notre cabinet. Nous pensons être parfaitement équipés pour fournir des services d'audit à la ville de Victoria et apporter une perspective différente étant donné que nous n'avons jamais travaillé avec cette ville auparavant. However, we have a solid experience and a good understanding of the functioning of local communities and cities thanks to our work with other clients. We have already developed a calendar that, according to us, will meet everyone's expectations regarding the deadline for the final report. En gros, nous avons établi des étapes clés à franchir pour garantir que le rapport final soit terminé en février. C'était donc un bref aperçu de notre cabinet. Je pense sincèrement que nous sommes un excellent choix pour la ville de Victoria et que nous avons l'expérience nécessaire pour fournir les services et les conseils dont la ville a besoin.

Des questions ? Well, thank you. We appreciate your presence. On this, I am ready to receive a motion concerning the adoption of the point E2.

We have a motion and a motion. Are there any discussions?

Because there are not all those who are for sports.

Oppositions? The contract is therefore approved. Very good. We now move on to point E2.

Point E2 is an ordinance modifying Chapter 21, the Unified Development Ordinance of the City of Victoria. This point is in its second and third reading. Good evening, Ms. Fulgrim.

Good evening.

Before starting my presentation, I just wanted to remind the Council that we mentioned this subject last month and that there is currently no demand or pressure on data centers. We simply wanted to be very proactive to ensure that our unified development ordinance was ready in case potential data centers were looking to implant in Victoria. You will notice that the text in green corresponds to the modifications made to the first proposal. In our first order project, we added that a low-frequency noise should not cause tonal, pulsating or repetitive disturbances exceeding the ambient sound levels of more than 5 dB, at the limit of any residential property. I of course highlighted the distance of 500 feet and I have a few maps to show you so that the Council can visualize what it represents in our community and make a final decision on this figure. We then clarified things and carried out some research on water consumption and we found that many recent regulations require water management plans and acoustic plans. We have therefore added that before the delivery of a building permit or an occupation certificate for a data center or a cryptocurrency mining farm, the applicant must submit an acoustic analysis prepared by a qualified engineer, demonstrating compliance with this section as well as an independent acoustic compliance report 90 days after the delivery of the provisional occupation certificate. Similarly, a water management plan showing effective use of water, identifying all sources of supply proposed and achieving an efficiency value of water use, not exceeding 0.5 liters per kilowatt-hour in the next three years. This scale, this value and this efficiency formula of water use becomes an industrial standard to measure water consumption. La norme industrielle pour la plupart des centres de données se situe entre 1,75 et 2, mais cela inclut la moyenne de tous les centres de données. Il existe des centres de données à boucle ouverte et à boucle fermée. Comme vous le savez, nous autorisons les centres à boucle fermée. Cette nouvelle ordonnance interdit les systèmes à boucle ouverte et la consommation d'eau pour les systèmes à boucle fermée est considérablement plus faible. We have therefore also added the definition of the efficiency of the use of water. These maps also show the current heavy industrial uses that are subject to certain requirements in terms of buffer zones. We therefore have these maps available. Here is what a 500-foot buffer zone looks like compared to all residential properties. We select all the limits of the residential properties, then the SIG is able to add this 500-foot tampon zone. And then a 1,500-foot tampon zone. You can see that we have some zones, mainly our industrial zone, near Caterpillar and some vacant agricultural zones, which have a large space that can potentially accommodate

Mme Fulgrim, is there a specific area covered by the 1,500 feet, but not by the 1,000 feet that concerns you? I ask the question based on your knowledge of affordable land, what is affordable?

Potentially around the Down North. Even if we only have one owner who owns a large part of this land and who has already proposed a management plan that will be presented for residential use. So I don't really see any pressure on development. Keep in mind that data centers must also be close to high-voltage electric lines or gas ducts. They must have an important source of generating energy.

So you know there are large electric lines in this area.

I would be happy to answer all your questions on this subject. Yes, the planning documents would require that they submit a proposal on how they plan to achieve it, then they must prove that they actually achieve it within a three-year period.

What happens if within a three-year period they are not in compliance? What happens then?

In the context of the procedure of the municipal court, they would be in infringement with our code and we should follow all the application measures available.

In the past, an important thing here is that we now have an official municipal court.

Historically, I think one of you has been concerned about applicability.

Historically, before becoming an official municipal court, it was probably a bit limited. But since then, there has been a lot more...

Yes, for the application of our codes.

Other questions?

So, regarding what you just mentioned, sir, regarding the fact that the application of the law is equivalent to fines, is there anything else than fines that could be imposed?

C'est une amende pouvant aller jusqu'au maximum autorisé par l'État. Je crois que c'est ce que c'est 2 euros par jour pour l'utilisation du sol. Donc il ne s'agirait pas juste d'une seule charge. Nous déposerions des plaintes pour chaque jour afin que ces amendes s'accumulent au point de forcer ou vraiment de pousser la personne en infraction à se mettre en conformité. Car le coût de ces amendes dépasse le bénéfice de continuer à exercer illégalement.

C'est une méthode efficace que nous avons utilisée par le passé pour les entreprises qui n'étaient plus en conformité avec notre code chaque jour, constitue une nouvelle infraction. Nous pouvons donc rédiger une citation pour chaque jour où ils ne sont pas en conformité et cela s'accumule très rapidement. Donc financièrement, cela peut devenir difficile pour eux, ce qui tend à les motiver à se remettre en conformité avec notre code.

D'autres questions ?

I have a question. Could you show the definition of a data center? Could you review it?

This is an existing definition. This is not my presentation.

Does this work? In fact, I had printed it, but I had already submitted it.

comme cette définition.

Mme Fugrim, if you can, I know that this definition is included in all the files that we have here in front of us.

I was going to say that in the worst case, I could read it to you in high voice.

I have it here, it's the page 21 of the document distributed in the file.

It is written that a data center is a building, a dedicated space within a building or a group of buildings used to host computer systems and associated components such as telecommunications and data storage systems. The way we administer our order is mainly done by the main user. When a request is in progress, especially because it is not only about the soil use component of our UDO to which we apply regulations, we also use the building code and what the building code uses to apply the real construction codes that must be respected. And so for the data centers, what we really examine on our administrative side to find out how we could regulate is whether it is the main use of a property

Allow me to say this. I think the definition is too broad. It's not. It would describe a bank. With servers. And I think the definition must be more precise on what a data center is, because a bank and what we have in the computer world would fall under this category.

As you see it.

In my opinion. I wrote a definition, but it is long.

However, the current definition is not. It is too long.

Alison sent the voice well.

I can also display your proposal.

A data center. I saw it.

What would I propose to us?

So, within the administration, we would define a bank, the main use of money, and all the activities related to a bank. Although, yes, all companies and generally a server room or, you know, computer needs. Same for the 700 mails, we have a server room that contains data, but the main use is that of government services and the administration, so when we apply the development standards and building codes.

I think this definition is too broad for me. I don't want that. I mean, with this definition, the previous definition, all those who are going to serve... I think it's too broad. I think this one restricts well what is...

Well, also the definition that we currently have uses examples of telecommunications or data storage, but my vague understanding of data centers, it does not necessarily capture what they do by saying data storage or telecommunications. So I think Je dois étudier l'autre définition mais je pense qu'elle couvre mieux le sujet.

Non, de quelle définition parlez-vous qui couvre le sujet ? Celle proposée par le conseiller Lofran.

Celle-ci, c'est en fait une définition provenant d'une autre ville.

Je ne l'ai pas expliqué.

I like what you propose.

Is our UDO defined, are these co-localization installations? Is it used in this definition? If we do not define it elsewhere, I do not know personally what that means.

It is addressed in the telecommunications section, wireless, on the fact that the co-localization for technology on wireless towers must... But I don't think we have a distinct definition for this, because it relates to the use of a wireless tower.

No, I appreciate that this definition is detailed and I think it formalizes by writing what we practice. And I look at this last sentence. The term does not include the equipment, the computer equipment or a server room which is an accessory and usually attached to another main use. This brings us back to what is a main use. My concern is that if we integrate this without defining all these terms elsewhere, we create ambiguities in the definition. And that would be my fear because I read these terms and I don't know what all these things are. I know the words, but when you put them together, I may not know exactly what a server farm is or, you know, a blockchain crypto processing field. I mean, if we have to use this kind of term, we have to define them somewhere, otherwise, this definition is subject to interpretation.

I think it should be defined, but these are elements used by scientists.

I don't deny that. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I don't necessarily have a problem with improving this definition. And I just want to make sure that if we do it, we do not create any unexpected consequences because we do not have or do not include other definitions.

So the definitions are the scourge of all urban planners and zoning regulations. And you will see that sometimes our definitions are very specific, but very broad to this effect. I like this definition. Our definition is very broad, as you said, but I understand your point of view, Mr. Mayor. I think that if you delete the phrase Geigeriger, the term Inclueriger, by simply keeping the previous text to resume with a data center that can include Geiger, because it contains this favorite word Geigeriger, it would probably cover everyone's concerns.

That's exactly what I was going to suggest, Julie, if you simply delete this part with the examples and you keep the rest, then

that it can include, but it also explicitly indicates what it does not include, namely the server rooms which are accessories to another use of a building and I therefore think that deleting this single sentence could solve this problem.

I think it's a good suggestion. Other ideas about the future, things that will not be part of it and will say that we have not talked about it, so we are exemplary.

Understood. Okay. Since we are at the second and third reading, maybe the right procedural approach would be to proceed to the second reading tonight with everything we have to discuss. We present it in a final format for the final reading. Does everyone see any signs of agreement with that? Because so we know exactly what we have at the time of the vote and often the amendments from the seats can become a little confusing. So very well. Any other questions or comments?

If I understood correctly, I think that Ingrid was waiting for advice from us also concerning the cards.

Thank you, Ms. Butler. So, in our file, there were cards showing 500 feet, one zero and one foot, one 500 feet. Any comments on that? Does anyone have any ideas on the application of one of these three options?

J'apprécie que vous ayez posé la question sur la différence entre 1,00 pied et 1,500 pied. Mon avis est que le maximum de 1,500 pied devrait être adopté pour les résidents de la communauté.

Je ne sais pas quel développement serait possible de toute façon, mais je pense que c'est une mesure très sage de fixer le maximum, du moins ce maximum.

d'autres idées.

D'accord. D'accord.

Pour moi, la différence est si minuscule qu'il s'agit, vous savez, d'une distinction sans réel intérêt.

Donc, je pense que nous sommes tous d'accord pour un 500.

Très bien, mais avez-vous besoin d'autres conseils de notre part avant que nous avancions ? And I suppose that what we have to do, Mémé Lessie, is approve as amended by Mémé Fulgrim and presented in second reading, and we will represent it for a third reading with these clarified definitions.

Is that correct? That's right.

So, regarding the point 2, do I have a motion in second reading to approve these changes as presented by Mémé Fulgrim in second reading?

I propose adoption.

Very well, we have motion and support.

Are there any other discussions? We don't see any. All those who are in favor? Against?

And we will wait impatiently for the third reading. Thank you very much for your work. We appreciate it. Very well. So I removed point E3.

We will therefore go directly to the report of the municipal director.

Mr. Garza, what do you have for us tonight? We have an update for you tonight that Cathy Connelly will present. I give her the floor. Good evening, Ms. Connelly.

Good evening, Mr Mayor and members of the Council. We are working on the development of the improvement project of the Martin Luther King Junior Park and I just wanted to make a point, share the updated conceptual plans, some other views and the calendar. Voici donc un peu de contexte sur ce parc. Un parc de 1,1 hectare, soit un peu moins de 3 acres. Il est situé à l'angle de Cole Street et de Pleasant Green Drive. Il a été construit vers 1985 et s'appelait à l'origine le Friendly Neighborhood Park. Il a été rebaptisé et dédié à Martin Luther King Jr. en 1988. It is identified in the park management plan as a district park and its state was evaluated in 2021 at 3.1 out of 5, depending on its size, facilities and the general state of the park. An important point, the park also houses a commemorative monument dedicated to Lawrence E. Thomas, the son of William Edward, who is with us tonight. Just to clarify what a neighborhood park is, because the park director plan provides several classifications, this one is classified as a neighborhood park because of its characteristics, namely that they are generally smaller. They are intended to offer leisure opportunities at about 10 minutes walk. For immediate neighborhood, they are, as I said, generally smaller. They are therefore between 1.2 and 4 hectares. This one is a little less than 1.2 hectares. Comme je l'ai dit, ils sont accessibles à pied ou à vélo, ce qui signifie que, comme ils ne servent que le voisinage immédiat, ils n'ont généralement pas les grands équipements que l'on trouve dans un parc communautaire ou régional, comme des jeux d'eau ou des toilettes. Ils sont vraiment destinés à servir la communauté, mais disposent tout de même d'air de jeu, possèdent des terrains de basket, ils disposent généralement de pavillons de pique-nique, des barbecues où vous pouvez organiser un événement le week-end, They have picnic tables, benches, that kind of thing. There are a lot of plazas and green spaces to enjoy the fresh air. Some of our other neighborhood parks, to give a scale, are Boulevard Park, Bronson, Greenbelt, Metal Lane, Pine Street, and many of them have also been renovated recently. The location here on the map, at the angle of Calus and Pleasant Green, is also bordered by Baker Street, and the other side is a private property. Ces photos ont été prises au cours des deux dernières semaines. Elles montrent en quelque sorte l'état actuel du parc. Cela fait un moment qu'il n'a pas été rénové. Beaucoup d'équipements et d'aménagements du parc sont tout simplement vieillissants. Il y a certaines choses que nous voulons vraiment changer. Il n'y a qu'un seul terrain de basket, mais il possède quatre paniers. Deux sont à hauteur réglementaire. Deux sont à hauteur pour les jeunes. Il n'est pas peint. La surface est juste en béton brut. Je retiens aussi un peu l'eau par endroit. Les structures de jeu sont anciennes dans le coin supérieur droit. On peut voir en bas le monument dont je parlais en hommage à Laurence Thomas. Lui aussi vieillit. Il est là depuis longtemps. Il est assez petit. Nous avons donc des projets pour cela dont je parlerai dans un instant. Le grillage au fond, vous pouvez voir qu'il est assez bas. Je pense qu'il fait peut-être un mètre vingt de haut. Il y a donc a lot of access from the park to private properties. We will therefore try to modify this. The following slide shows the updated concept. In fact, I just received it today. We have worked on different versions, but this one is the most recent. I will review some of these elements. Nous voulons déplacer le pavillon pour améliorer l'accès des véhicules car nous comprenons que les gens qui y font un pique-nique, peut-être organisent-ils un pique-nique paroissial, une fête d'anniversaire ou autre, et veulent pouvoir reculer pour décharger leurs affaires. Nous voulions nous assurer qu'ils n'abîment pas la pelouse ou autre. Nous allons simplement faciliter cela. We will add accessible parking spaces. This is the parking lot along Baker Street. For now, only the number 8 represents the parking lot available in the park. This would add all these spaces along Baker Street and this would also be accessible to people with reduced mobility. We want to install inclusive game structures with an area for older children. This is number 4. a separate zone for the youngest and the youngest children in zone 3 but they are very close in case you know someone would come to the park with children of all ages we want to move and as a mother I love that we want to move the basketball court towards the back of the park so that there is less risk that the balls bounce in the street but we will also add a wall along the bottom we will better separate those the number 18 and the wall of closure We have worked on the necessary height to ensure that not only does this reduce the noise for the private property behind, but also so that the balloons do not go anywhere and do not land in the gardens of people where children cannot recover them. This could also possibly serve as a point for public art that we could thematize for the park for Martin Luther King Jr. and of course we will have two there. There will be lighting. We will always have American size baskets on one of the basketball courts. I have already talked about the closure of the entrance panel of the park and I have a better view coming, but it is at number 12. This will reflect the design that we have in certain areas of Riverside Park, such as the dog park and the duck pond. And then we will move and improve this monument for Thomas Lawrence. If you look here, it's at 16. So we want to place it centrally so that if you enter the park, you are sure to see it. And then the seat wall, there are several points along the circular path marked by the number 11, where we will place walls with quotes from Dr. King. Then they will be lit, which I think will be very beautiful, the night under the trees. Then, you can hardly see it here, but there are a few very small blue dots. We will add high fountains, which will also have huts at dog height for dogs. And then, for the rest, I have here a bird's eye view. It's Baker Street. View from Baker Street towards Pleasant Green. You can see the parking lot. You can see the landscaping. You can see where it would be possible to place, you know, works of public art at the back, where the basketball courts are. I think it would be very visible from most of the park and even from the street to a certain extent, which in my opinion would be a very good opportunity And then concerning the landscaping, the parking at the back, the one that already exists, is also designed to be a good location if food trucks wanted to settle or if there was an event requiring portable toilets or something like that. And here is another view, it's from Pleasant Green towards Baker Street. It's just the same thing, just a different view of the park. And this also highlights the entrance panel, which will be located at the angle of Calus and Pleasant Green, with the landscaping and the metal arch that indicates the name of the park. So, regarding our current progress, we have been requesting the community's opinion for a few weeks. We have sent a link with some information to the neighbourhood to ask for their feedback. We received feedback from a few people last Monday, not yesterday, but last week, during the meeting of the Park Commission. ARF & Associates, our consultant working on this project, made a presentation to the Park Commission. I will give more details on this subject, but there is also a space on our website where people can go, which contains the concept design and photos, I mean, its renders, as well as my coordinates for anyone who wants to get in touch and leave comments or support. So the next step after what we are doing today, our community commitment, we at Huff & Associates will begin to work on the design at 30% with the estimation of costs. And this estimation of costs is really what we are looking for when we are going to ask for subsidies, because it will determine the funds that we will request. The main difference being that the subsidy program for local parks has a ceiling of $750,000 and that the program for outdoor recreation does not have a maximum. So this will really determine where we will look for the funds.

Which one is the most competitive? Just out of curiosity.

It will certainly be, well, they are both UTPWB. So it's the state of Texas. You can say both. Yvon, you know, I didn't really think about these terms. Normally, I would say that the federal funds will be the most competitive, but they could potentially be both federal funds. The Outdoor Recreation Legacy Program, I'm sure. Pour les parcs locaux, le soutien dépend du montant du financement provenant des taxes collectées par l'État sur la vente d'articles de sport. Cet argent provient donc de l'État. Il n'y a pas d'implication fédérale. Mais lorsqu'ils ont besoin de plus, il y a parfois une intervention du National Park Service. La subvention que nous avons actuellement pour améliorer Meadow Lane Park est une subvention pour parcs locaux et elle inclut des fonds fédéraux du National Park Service. On the contrary, when we carried out the project of the duck pond, it was fully financed locally by the state. So it all depends on the project, but there could be a federal involvement in both cases. I also think that the Outdoor Recreation Legacy program has a lot more criteria regarding the public of the services. This park is particularly well qualified for this funding. So I think it all depends on the cost and what we want. I am not certain that there is more competition for the ORLP than for the local parks.

One thing to keep in mind is the amount we have to contribute, because as you can see, there is a ceiling of 750,000 dollars for the subsidy of local parks, unlike the other program. Transforming this neighborhood project into a single project will cost millions of dollars.

Part of the decision will therefore depend on the amount we have available to serve as a counterpart.

Pour ce qui est du calendrier actuel que je voulais partager, nous travaillons sur l'ingénierie. Comme je l'ai dit, nous y travaillons. Cela devrait être terminé en 2027 et nous demanderons ensuite le financement pour les activités de construction une fois cette étape achevée ou peut-être en même temps selon celui que nous choisirons. Once we have submitted the application, I will of course come back to you for the approval of this application the next time. Once the application has been submitted, it is generally necessary to count between 8 and 12 months to obtain an answer. The TPWD has a fairly efficient calendar to respond to the candidates concerning the subsidies. So it should be, I hope, quite fast. My last slide is a message to residents. Do not hesitate to contact us for any questions, concerns or comments. Je voulais juste dire que lorsque j'ai parlé plus tôt du plan conceptuel que j'ai partagé, ainsi que des deux vues aériennes et de mes coordonnées, tout est disponible sur, si vous allez sur le site de la Ville, sous la rubrique gouvernement Mager, vous trouverez une liste complète des plans directeurs, dans le plan directeur des parcs à Arras. Si vous faites défiler la page jusqu'à la moitié, c'est là que se trouvent les photos, le plan conceptuel et les coordonnées.

Quelqu'un a-t-il des questions ?

Could you show one of the images of the park with the surrounding streets?

Do you want the aerial view or the conceptual plan?

This one will do the job. Okay. And just for my information on the right side, it's Calus. At the bottom, it's Pleasant Green. And we have Baker with the cars. Looking at this, I am confused by the location of the entrance to the park and I try to determine where the majority of the houses are in the surroundings. But I guess I come to the conclusion that there are two entrances.

Well, that's true. It depends on the way you access the park. So I'm going to go back to this one because you can really see at the bottom on the left side, you can really see this entrance. Oui, c'est actuellement au point où les deux roues principales se croisent. Hum, cela dépend simplement de la façon dont vous vous rendez au parc. Si vous allez au parc en voiture, bien sûr, vous allez vous garer et c'est là que vous y entrerez. Si vous allez au parc à pied, et comme il s'agit d'un parc de quartier, c'est ce que nous pensons être l'usage quotidien le plus fréquent à pied ou à vélo. Disons que vous voulez aller courir, promener votre chien ou, vous savez, rejoindre des amis pour jouer au basket ou emmener vos enfants, vous allez probablement entrer par un autre point. We could put it anywhere. This is where it seemed the most logical, because it is the main intersection. This could be... You will no longer have visibility.

They generally follow the logic of what will attract the most, the looks on the panel. It's really more a question of signaling than entry, because we can enter by several points. It is therefore about knowing where to place the signaling and the logic of putting it at the frequent angle.

You know... I needed these few additional steps.

I thought you were going to ask a question about parking and I think they are planning parking in the street on Calus, no?

We had a version of this project where parking spaces in the street were specifically planned. We decided to remove them because we keep the parking lot in the back when initially this parking lot was not there. L'ajout du stationnement le long de Baker, combiné au maintien du parking existant, devrait être globalement suffisant. Si le parc était vraiment plein, le débordement pourrait se garer le long de la rue. Il n'y a aucune raison de ne pas le faire.

Les gens se gareront là, de toute façon.

Les tables de pique-nique sont dos aux voitures plutôt que de l'autre côté. N'est-ce pas?

One thing I want to add for the context is that when we developed the park management plan in 2021, it seems to go back to an eternity. I know a large part of the community's feedback at the time was that people wanted us to invest in our neighborhood parks at once. We have received a lot of comments saying that the city was doing things right, doing small interventions here and there, and that we never really have the impression of having a new park since all the changes do not happen simultaneously. This is why we have committed since then to try to reach the point where we can transform our parks in one time, right? Obviously, we have replaced the equipment of the playgrounds in recent years because it is a matter of security. We must therefore focus on this point rightly. But this is really the first neighborhood park that we are dealing with at this scale, with a complete renovation in one go. This could serve as a good example of the impact it can have on a neighborhood when we invest the funds necessary to transform these neighborhood parks into a single operation. I would say that this will have a more important impact on the surrounding residential areas and residents rather than spreading the work. This impact will be much more felt and the answer will therefore be at the height. We think it's a fair point. And, of course, it's a major project. I mean, it's not something out of the blue. A transformation like this requires a lot of planning, work, effort and funding. I know that a lot of work has already been done. Any other questions or comments? What is the speed limit?

It's not more than 40, but I think. On both. So, all the little yellow dots here are lights. So, a lot of lights will be added. And we're going to make sure we have enough around the basketball court, because obviously, in winter, you know, after school hours, children want to play basketball. But yes, we're adding a lot of lights.

Any other questions or comments? Thank you very much. We appreciate this information.

Mr Garza, is this our only report from the municipal director?

Yes, and we then have a technique, a work session on the budget. On the budget. Okay, we'll let you go to this work session. It's essentially like a report from the municipal director. I suppose.

A little different, but it's under a different section.

We will therefore start our work session on the point G1, the work session on the proposed budget and the rate of imposition for the exercise 2020. Mr Garza, please. Okay, just a few topics of discussion tonight. First, we want to return to the discussion concerning the service of rainwater, which was started with the proposal of the LRN Council during our last meeting of the Council. I will also make the point on the state of our health fund. We would like to share some projections and updates. and I would also like to show you some minor adjustments that we are bringing to the budget before its official adoption next month. Regarding the conversation on the rainwater service, this is just a summary of what is included in the proposed budget, which does not include the recommendation of Councilor Eredin. And so I really chose this image just to serve as a starting point for discussion and conversation. But as a reminder, the original proposal in the budget is $5 per EAU for the residential, the calculation for the non-residential. basé sur un équivalent E R U U U. Celui-ci est bien sûr calculé et multiplié et je comprends que cela puisse créer une certaine confusion. C'est pourquoi nous encourageons les gens à visiter notre site web pour pouvoir accéder au montant de leurs frais. We currently have exonerations, complete exonerations for the school district, the city of Victoria, the county and those required, excuse me, the churches, as well as those imposed by the law of the state, which includes higher education and state properties as proposed. This generated about 2.5 million dollars over a 12-month civil year. And you can see below how we plan to spend about 2.3 or 2.4 in order to build a small reserve. I do not have a slide for this, but I know that one of the points in suspense that we owe you following the conversation during the last meeting was the potential financial impact of the proposal submitted by Councilor Lorraine. We have carried out this analysis.

However, I would like to pass the floor to Alison to talk about it. It's up to you. Excellent.

So, as you know, I was not at the meeting last time and I know that Councilor Logrand had proposed a 5 dollar tax rate for discretionary exonerations that we have by virtue of the Code, in opposition to the complete exoneration for each of these entities. And so I did some research and I looked at the question. Obviously, it's new for all of us. And the answer I gave him this morning after examining his proposal is that it is not in our interest to offer a residential equivalent mortgage rate of $5 for each of these entities on each of their properties, even if it is by account. The reason why... To make it short, you owe... Essentially, these entities benefit from an exoneration in favor of the tax code for tax collectors and therefore the services that we bill them. The fees that we are authorized to bill them must really be equivalent to fees and not to a general tax. Thus, for example, for water, they pay according to their consumption. L'équivalent ici serait que si nous leur accordons une certaine mesure d'exonération, celle-ci doit être équivalente à leur empreinte, leur surface imperméabilisée, etc., etc. Cela ne peut pas être généralisé. Donc, par exemple, si vous avez une très, très grande, je vais utiliser les églises parce que c'est le plus simple. If you have a very, very large church with a very, very large ground hold, it is very different from a very small church with a very small ground hold, which may only have a building and a very small parking lot. These two cases are not the same. So their bill, the same amount for all, is not fair for these entities. So I made some suggestions to Lovegrain advisors on what would be acceptable, unacceptable. Je sais ce que d'autres villes ont fait pour accorder une exonération partielle aux entités discrétionnaires. Ce n'est pas une exonération totale, mais cela leur permet une sorte d'exemption partielle. Je vais le laisser décider s'il souhaite ou non vous en parler. Cela dépend de lui.

Thank you Alison. And I would add that at the time when we presented the specific options on what to do with religious institutions, we had shown an exoneration of 50%, 100%, 200% because what had become in a way the best practice was to address the issue in this way. And so, to bounce back on Alison's point, I think we would all feel more at ease with an approach based on a percentage of reduction applied to institutions or agencies for which you want to consider it. Exactly. Alison and I talked about it earlier. The city of Berlin has, I think, 75% of exoneration. And I would like to understand what would be the impact on the churches, on the county. And you know, what would be the impact for a small church? What would be the impact for a large church? I would like to have this information. I know that we will not vote on this before a moment, according to what I know. So if we can obtain this information, we could then

to see if everyone agrees.

We are four to have approved the measure of five dollars, so I think we should examine this other option, but we will need information. It is a fair approach because a small church is worth much less than a large church. To repeat, You would like to see what would be the financial impact if we offered an exoneration of 75% of these institutions on which we have a discretionary power. So, in substance, they would be responsible for 25%.

Give us an example. One thing I want people to realize is that churches can possess goods that are not exonered.

They must be exonered by the evaluation service.

So the method that we use to identify specifically the religious properties is to check if they are identified by the CAD as being exempted by virtue of the tax code, which requires them to fill a form with the CAD. indicating, you know, this or that thing, and the evaluation service must approve it. We therefore use their formula, which is based on the tax code, to identify these properties.

And just for more clarity, I would prefer that there be a discussion within the council to really determine whether there is an interest to be pursued in this way, because it is not the same thing. Your initial proposal stipulated that entities pay $5 per month. If they had two accounts, maybe that would be $10. Even with an exemption of 75%, it now becomes $50 per month. $60 per month, right? So in some cases, it would be $375? Potentially. But my point is that it is not the same as the initial proposal. And so I would feel more comfortable if there was a new discussion within the council to see if there is an interest in continuing this new method.

I think I would like to see it.

I understand. If I may, I spoke the last time and I was one of the four. I took the time to think about our initial discussion and the exemptions that we have granted or promised to these institutions. And I had the impression of having returned to what I had initially promised or at least accepted. En y repensant, j'ai senti que je ne savais pas si c'était la bonne chose à faire. Donc, la valeur des revenus générés par rapport à la parole donnée et aux exemptions accordées, je vais revenir à ma réponse initiale et dire que je souhaiterais, avant d'accorder les exemptions, ce qui rend la question sans objet.

And I'm in favor, maybe. I'm in favor of the complete exemptions that we have already promised these people.

Really? It works thanks to the donations of our part. We who already pay the tax on rainwater. And I find that it's a kind of double imposition for us, the donors of our churches. And I totally disagree. It's 100%.

Exemption. Or it depends. I hate to put you in embarrassment.

I'm not embarrassed. It's a key subject for me. I firmly believe that we must grant the appropriate exemptions, which includes churches.

I bow. Very well. I couldn't even say what I thought. But we are always interested.

We are always interested. We are always interested. So, can I move on? Yes, I suppose.

We can still send you the information if you want. I will continue. In case you are wondering, his initial proposal was $17,000.

This will generate an additional $17,000.

I hope so, very well. In June, when we presented the preliminary budget for the health fund... Oh, I'm sorry.

No, I'm sorry. Before I close this topic on the price and budget of rainwater services, I have a question that I was asked and to which I have no answer. And so I ask you and the Council. Will there be eligibility for aid for people in difficulty with the rainwater tax?

I understand for the five dollars, but there are local companies, and you and I discussed it, who are worried about the difficulties they might encounter because of this tax.

So the question is to know if there will be eligibility for Z, a potential return or perhaps scaled payments, a kind of admissibility for cases of difficulty.

Vous pouvez me corriger si je me trompe, mais il n'existe actuellement aucune disposition pour cela. Cependant, nous pouvons certainement faire des recherches pour voir si ce type de clause existe et nous pourrons en informer le Conseil.

Je m'excuse de vous avoir pris au dépourvu. C'est quelque chose de nouveau qui m'a été présenté.

D'accord. Cela ne fait pas de mal de faire quelques recherches sur ce sujet. And as a reminder, we plan to present the ordinance to the council next month, I believe. And that's it. Next month. And we'll have to make some amendments during the session. One in particular, which consists of adding religious institutions, because when we published the public opinion on the study of this project, religious institutions did not appear as an exonerated group. So keep in mind that we will need an amendment during the plenary session when we present this ordinance to include religious institutions. And we are planning to implement it on January 1st. Comme je l'évoquais en juin lors de la présentation du budget préliminaire, nous avions prévu que cet exercice fiscal se clôturerait avec environ 5,8 millions de réclamations. Cependant, depuis, nous disposons de quelques mois de données supplémentaires qui confirment que ce chiffre va en réalité atteindre 6,4 millions. Cela nous oblige, ou plutôt m'oblige, à vous montrer d'où cela provient, dans le cadre d'un effort pour entamer des discussions difficiles sur nos régimes, mais surtout pour vous présenter une mise à jour du solde de fonds prévu à la fin de l'exercice 2027, étant donné que nous ne prévoyons aucun changement en 2027. I think I mentioned during the last meeting that we recently introduced what we call an EPO regime in response to employees who essentially wanted plans with moderate tickets. We therefore analyze the impact of this on claims and on the transfer of individuals between the different regimes. This graph shows, for example, the number of individuals registered by regime on the left as well as the trajectory of the claims. It's very interesting. Cela montre clairement une corrélation positive pour le régime EPO. Plus nous avons de personnes inscrites au régime EPO, qui est en jaune, plus les réclamations augmentent pour ces employés spécifiques. Ce qui est intéressant ici, c'est la couleur rouge, rose, ou peu importe comment elle apparaît, c'est que nous voyons en réalité moins de personnes inscrites à notre régime à franchiser le V2, et pourtant, ces réclamations augmentent That doesn't make sense, does it? When we did our initial projections with our consultant on social benefits, we had anticipated a decrease in complaints for the two high-ranking franchises due to the reduced number of registered men. What we see is that we maintain a correct level of registration in our high-ranking regime 1, which is the one in blue. And that remains stable. We therefore do not see the decline that we had anticipated. And with the red slash red, we even see increases. What this indicates is that the cost of health care is increasing significantly. These are elements that we will have to take into account throughout exercise 2027 in order to consider any changes in 2028. This is just a follow-up to this conversation. I just wanted to share some additional data. As I mentioned, we are officially modifying our forecasts regarding the situation of our health fund at the end of exercise 2027. On the right side, the bars on the far right, if you will, in the proposed budget, we were at 4.4 million, amount brought back to 3.9 million due to higher sinister forecasts. This puts us in a position where we must obviously have this discussion, because I hope that we all agree to say that we do not want to return to the situation of 2019 with a very low ground. Questions at this point?

I have one. Is there data in the ventilation indicating that it is an individual or family regime that could be evaluated?

We have access to data.

We were simply asked if it was correlated with the P.O. compared to the high franchise and what it looked like.

And we examine it. We cannot, of course, examine the individual data because these information are protected. But we can certainly examine. Do you know what motivates this? Is it family? I can tell you that historically, it is generally the people in charge who increase the cost of the sinister. It's generally not the employer himself, it's a child, it's a spouse. This is generally what we observe, it's very common. But these data are exactly what helps us, in collaboration with our consultant, in social benefits, to define the path to follow, isn't it? Because you really have to understand where the problem is, isn't it? I don't like to put it that way, but you know what causes the cost increase, I should say. So yes, we have access to this data. by pursuing some other adjustments that we are officially bringing to the budget before it is submitted to you for final adoption. We have presented the preliminary budget to the Celsax Development Corporation and we have received very good feedback on their part regarding an adjustment that we are planning to make officially. In summary, we amend and modify our CIP Our CIP remains at 69 million dollars, but we are essentially reducing the amount of funds allocated to the community center project for the exercise 27 of 2 million and we are adding the public service project I69 phase 2 for 2 million dollars. These two amounts are therefore compensated, which maintains the CIP plan at 69 million dollars. We also mentioned to the South Saks Development Corporation that we plan to add a small budget to our economic development service to help maintain and expand businesses. Chris Connor from our economic development service as well as our team have been very involved and very attentive to the challenges that our small businesses have been facing recently. We want to finish, for example, a resource center for small businesses. We therefore want to multiply this kind of event. We therefore thought it would be appropriate to incorporate a small budget to contribute to this type of event. And as I mentioned earlier, we are waiting for January 1st to start the implementation of the public drainage service of rainwater. We had not taken it into account initially. These $ 80,000 that we add for drainage-related services are therefore used to compensate for this difference in contracts. Sorry, I hesitated a second. I really try to avoid saying the word EQ. I have a little bet with Alison, so if I make spectacular pauses, If I'm taking a break, it's because I'm trying to avoid saying the word, okay, we don't count, so to speak, in passing, so to speak, in passing.

All in all, after bringing all these changes, it really only increases the global budget by 80,000 dollars. The impact on the overall budget is therefore very minimal. It is still a budget of spending 242 million dollars. It is still a budget of revenue of 131 million dollars. But there are just a few minor changes that we will integrate into the budget officially proposed during our next meeting.

Can you come back to the previous slide?

The additional 2 million dollars are used to accelerate the I69 project or to stay in the deadlines.

I would say accelerate.

Because we have developed the plan for... fill the gaps and extend public services along 59 Futuri 69. There were no stopped plans at the time on how to proceed with these improvements. Last year, or maybe two years ago now, I don't remember exactly, we integrated the first phase. I think it was in 25, right? That's it. So during the fiscal year 25, we integrated the first phase, which consisted of the acquisition of servitude. We work with a third-party company to acquire all the services needed for the extension of water pipes. The phase 2 would therefore consist of starting this process to begin to fill in some of these gaps. And I believe that overall it is a project in four phases, right? We therefore want to try to be more offensive and accelerate the process. What aroused this idea is the reality according to which We had nothing in the budget to help make more land constructible. The South Sacramento Development Company therefore suggested that we should find a better balance in our budget and integrate some of these elements. The reduced amount allocated to the community center has no negative impact on the project. I want this to be very clear.

The South Sacramento Development Company has already committed to financing the renovation and enlargement of the community center to the extent of nearly 4 million additional dollars.

At the start, we try to put everything together in one go. But on the advice with the return of the company SOSAX, we will now spread it on the next three fiscal exercises. No prejudice for the project, but it allows us to integrate this public utility project. I appreciate the opportunity to be able to give more details.

Well, that's all I had to say for tonight. Je suis prêt à répondre à toutes vos questions sur le budget que nous avons partagé précédemment ou sur les changements d'informations supplémentaires présentés ce soir. Des questions ?

Je n'ai pas de questions mais j'ai eu une conversation plus tôt avec ... Pour moi les chiffres sont excellents mais ils doivent raconter une histoire. Certain funds, in particular special income funds, do not specify their usefulness. Before we could carry out detailed analyzes, you could go deeper with the previous tool, with the previous software than us, the current software. We can no longer do detailed analysis, but for me, out of transparency, Certain questions asked by the newspaper are the perfect example. These questions should find answers easily. Certain answers. They would appear if we looked closely. But when it comes to a confiscation fund. For example, there is a big winter charge.

It's a huge amount.

I don't know what. And we have already discussed internally the possibility of adding notes from the bottom of the page or additional clarifications.

I would also like to add that at this stage of the process, it is the proposed budget. There is therefore a completely different document, more compact, more complete, which is elaborated within the framework of the adopted budget. Le document budgétaire adopté contient en réalité beaucoup plus d'informations. L'un des éléments que vous avez demandé, par exemple, était une ventilation individuelle de l'encours de la dette, essentiellement pour nos certificats d'obligation et nos obligations à revenus et nos obligations à revenus. C'est le document qui est inclus chaque année dans notre budget final adopté. Je voulais donc simplement préciser qu'une partie de ces réponses sera apportée par le document du budget adopté. Je vous en prie. Other comments or questions? Thank you for this update. The process continues.

Very good. I think that concludes our work. On the order of the day, we will have a short executive session.

We will take a 10-minute break and we will come back in executive session at 6.45 p.m.

The municipal council suspends the session for an executive session at 6.35 p.m. The order of the day is as follows.