Charter Review Committee - Regular Meeting

Okay, let's start the meeting. This is the September 10th meeting of the Charter Review Committee. The meeting starts at 5.30 p.m. All seats are open. We can move on to accepting the minutes of our last meeting, which took place on August 20th. Do you have any comments or suggestions? Or, I accept a request for acceptance. It is a promise to accept the minutes you have given. Thank you. Those who agree.

Yes.

Those who disagree. Okay. Let's move on to the discussion about the charter arrangements. I'll hand it over to Katie. First of all, I apologize for not being able to submit the examinations before tonight. Due to the health problems of the family bank, I was not able to come to the office unexpectedly for a week. So I had a little rest. I thought it was Wednesday today, but then I realized that it was Thursday. Okay. In addition to the agenda and minutes, the pocket we discussed in the second half of the last week's meeting is what you have submitted. Therefore, I have put together a list of references and other documents of each and every one of you. I have suggested some changes in it. But they are things to be discussed. They are very small things. Therefore, I think we can examine them today. After today's meeting, I would like to remind you where we are going. All the important organizations that the Council and others are involved in are also ending with this. Therefore, I thought I would give you everything we discussed and changed next week. We can investigate it. We can decide whether we really need this. Or, we can decide that we don't have to take it forward after thinking a lot. The next meeting is public hearing. Therefore, it makes things public hearing. Next, we missed some of the facilities we discussed earlier. Wiggins said that there are a few more opinions. So we can do that at the end of the meeting. Then we can move on to Article 9 regarding the referendum. Um. Just like that. As Mr. Blaine pointed out in his speech, when the referendum departments start to protest, some of them will fall back and forth. This is really the matter of priorities. Therefore, I have not made any major changes to this, but you can see that there are two options below 9.2 in some of your opinions. I prepared the options 1 and 2 by examining the arrangements of other charters that make the meeting a base. Last time, one of the comments you made was that it should be appropriate for the charters of the state and the Vanelya. In another way, when we submit it, it should be correct in terms of the format. So you can see option 2. I added the part that says that we need to provide the best HG forms that comply with the requirements of this charter and the Ohio Revised Code. When we start examining the charters in other cities, many of the charters say the same thing. It is not our job to tell you how to conduct the referendum or what to submit. It is your responsibility as a Harjee committee. If you want a legal advice, you have to find it. It is not going that far. But that's what it means. Therefore, in option 1, I have removed from the CET attorney's office to issue law-abiding amendments to the CET attorney-harjee committee on the provisions of this charter or to issue a legal advice on the laws related to referendum anyway. If my opinion is asked as a law director, I will choose an option. Because if another translation says that the information given in the letter was wrong, the city will not consider it as its charter language, because some things require translations in this. Likewise, By accepting the city's form and by saying what the procedures are, you are providing legal advice to the people in the Harjee committee. If you are accepting the law director every time, you may have to come to the conclusion that there have been any changes in the referendum laws. Even if it is not something that changes over time, However, there are some time limits in this, so the law director will have to update it every year, or if it has not been reviewed for a long time, there may be problems. This may have happened when this issue came before. So, I wanted to give you both these options. Certainly, if there are more opinions or suggestions, we can say that these two have not been decided yet, but you had to see the other side of the spectrum used in many other cities. I think this is the subject of interest in our recent history. So, in the case of option 1 or option 2, do the City Council or city residents have any concerns? Have you received any suggestions from anyone? No. This is not something that needs to be investigated. I will use the word overhaul. According to my interpretation, this needs to be investigated in detail and things need to be made clear.

If you take KT's words seriously, you have to do this. Certainly.

Let me make it clear. In option 1, you give a part of the parts that you need to understand. I can't describe it. I'm not going to describe it. In option 2, the city takes care of a standard form, and once a year, it examines it and gives it to the plaintiff. That's right. Option 1 is the state laws on how to conduct a referendum. This charter will also be included in it. It will be very useful. Option 2 is directly related. Here we go. Let's go and sign the agreements. I know that you like option 1, but if there is a gap in the view of the public, it will make things easier. I know that making this easier is not your job, but the government's actions are not being understood is a complaint from the people. When they come to the meeting, everyone feels like saying, yes, we voted, because they don't know that they have to go to working groups. So, I think there are two options for people who want to make a change. Also, it is a standard form for people in our office. If you look at them, you can say that you haven't changed anything. Okay, put that back. Let's go to that area.

Okay, put it back. Because it won't cost anyone here. Okay, okay.

But I feel that this is making things easier for the people. But I may be wrong. Let me create a big problem in this situation. Let me give you a third option. Forgive me for not having the opportunity to talk about this earlier. No, no, no. So, for the past six years, I have been one of the four people in the Montgomery County Board of Elections who write mail-notes to voters in our county. We had this issue. We voted in the latest and most recent Vaneli. I thought I was leaving it voluntarily, but it was investigated. We still had it. I thought it was in Brookville. But don't ask me about it. They have to conduct a special general election or a state-level governor election. This is a cost to Brookville. All of this is due to their charter. It would be one of the things that would give more clarity to the citizens by avoiding responsibility from my auction law director and council. Very clearly and as fast as possible, I think Kettering is a good example of this. All these streets will be new roads. It will control everything. I think there is something similar to this in Tip City. So I took it. But you see Kettering and many other cities. Since they have it, even though we don't remember the name of the city we voted for, if they had filed in the revised code, they could have legislated in the meantime, or they could have held elections in their next election. Okay, they are all elections for the next year, so they wouldn't have had much money. This can be a way to make it easier, because we can look at any revised code, and we don't have to think about which one governs the Charter and the Code. This is not a burden on the CEO, Director, or Council. If it is a wrong form, it is a wrong form from the Secretary of State, i.e., it is a wrong form chosen by the parties. Because all the roles of the Secretary of State are easy for everyone. This will bring more responsibility to the legal director to prepare this language. But I am happy to help in that. No, I know what you are saying.

Because I am going to do option 3. Even if you include something like that in this, it will not come out as good as the rest. So I thought, let's avoid it. If necessary, let's look at it next week or next time. So this will be a violation of the agreement, referendum, and re-goal. Because the code that has been examined is handling it all.

If any case is filed, if the Charter and the Code are asked which will be the violation, the Charter will come into effect according to the state laws. But if it is against the state law, the state law itself will be a violation.

By doing so, we are not stopping it from achieving a certain percentage of the agreement. The Municipal Assembly can still arrange such things, but don't you think that's the best way to look at the basis of the procedures? If we talk about the basis of the procedures, it would be the Code.

We can do whatever we want. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have also given a percentage in the test code. I think they are less. Forgive me, I think they are more than we expected. Yes, that's right. I also think they are more. That's why I thought we should control the percentages. But you can do it again. Leave Ohio completely to the test code. We apologize to the third party, but it was raised in our last board meeting. The Board of Elections is always ready for it. If any Charter City Board wants to ask for an opinion, we will consult with our Director and Deputy Director. It is a useful team. They will complete it. But... That is my opinion. Albatross.

We don't have to make a decision tonight. So let's prepare it for the next meeting. If you put it out there, you can pick three options and see which one is better. We can choose that. Because I think it's fair.

If that language is losing money to a city, if we can help to avoid it, we should definitely do it. I have checked the website of the Secretary of State. It is very easy to find, download, and print forms. So I think it is better to let people go there. You will never be in trouble. Let's reduce the number of cases because of others. I liked it.

Okay, so I'll make that recipe. Thank you. See you at the next meeting. You can see the next option after the first option or after the second option. You will notice that I have changed it from the office of the CET Manager to the Council Clerk. Because the Council Clerk is the CET Manager itself. So I felt that the position of the Council Clerk is more suitable for this than the position of the CET Manager. Let's go to section 9.3. KT, let me say quickly. Where does the poem come from? Or who is responsible for this? We have said that we like OC or auction, right? But I am asking you not to be confused by the percentage. Do we need it or not? Or do we need more? Or should we be careful? Christian, the next chapter will be a very different story from this. Okay, this may be very small, because this is about a referendum. To put it short, if it is a referendum or a referendum, look at the code in Ohio Revised. Even if that's the case, this is our percentage. Okay, things like that. So we, this may be very small. But we will stop these percentages here. That's you. I'll let you know what's in the code. Then you can decide that. Okay, that's it. So, when you look at it and do something else, you will get an idea of what I did. In section 3, you can see option 1 and option 2. Once again, option 1 is added to the other section as option 1. Option 2 is added to section 9.2 as option 2. The reason is that it affects again. The next stage of that selection. So, if you have chosen the option 1, which says, CET attorney will sign it. Um. Okay. So, I have changed option 1 and option 2. Go to section 9.3. Take 2 instead of 1. Take 2 instead of 1. I have put it back and forth. If the CET attorney law is the option you have chosen, we will need the election board to verify whether the Ohio law and the charter are in effect. This is what Mr. Blayen did to tell the election board not to be in such a situation. When we give them a poem in option 2 and say that this is the poem, it is enough to check the contents of the voting board only. I don't know how they will do it. I don't know how you are going to investigate it. I don't think they should be chosen quickly. I am not able to study it thoroughly. So I don't know if they only looked at the opinion of the voters or the opinion of the voters. But I don't want that investigation to be in this area. It should be a third party that investigates whether the people in Harji are capable. Then, I have not made any other changes in the Referendum Department, because our discussion was focused only on those points. However, I will definitely make option 3 to decide how to proceed with your application. Option 3. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were saying 93-1-3. No. Option 3. No, I'm sorry. I meant the option 3 for the Referendum Department. Okay. Yes, the new option. In another way, you will get option 1. Thank you. You will get option 2. Next, I will get a new section called option 3. Your option, your... I want to talk about option 9 and 2. I thought, oh, this is the new option 93.

We can call it plain option. Oh my God! This is how I feel. You, yes, get it out of town.

Do you want to move forward or wait? Pardon me. Okay. Section 5.5 or 5-5 can be moved forward. We discussed this in the previous meeting. If you want to remove the CET Manager, you can see that it has been changed to bring specific procedures. One of the things I did was not through an emergency ordinance, but through a resolution. It is clear that the suspended CET manager will get a salary immediately after this procedure. But this was not the case before Vaneli. After the removal, the payment was made. According to my calculation, If a initial resolution is passed to the council for terminating the CET Manager, it will be approved within 30 to 45 days. Therefore, this will not last. This is a very timely process. It is thought that the CET Manager will be required for a hearing. If the CET Manager does not require a hearing, it can be completed within 8 days. The reason is that the payment will be made after 6 days of the final decision. The more time it takes for the payment to reach the final decision, the more time it will take for the payment to reach the final decision.

Okay. Yes, I think so. If I have the permission to say, I will. Last time, we talked about the worst things that can happen if a person breaks the law. You know, right? What is the biggest mistake a person can make? Yes, right. What is the worst thing a person can do? It's not that bad. Even if we feel that this person doesn't want to be here anymore, it's not that big of a problem. It's not such a big thing. Then, what happens if that person wins the hearing? If we use that language, If voting before the hearing is the way to stop the payment, I think it's better to attract people who don't want us to do this kind of work. Even if I want CET Manager Aulhaus to continue as CET Manager, I know that he can always decide to resign. So when he makes that decision after 20 years, or after about 17 years, we need someone who can do it like him. I am afraid that I will not get the right employees. Nobody knows about the council that is going to come. Now it may be a good council, but who knows who will come after five years. This is a ridiculous game for them. They don't know. They can be out for six months or six days. In other words, I had to use one of the people in the City Council because one of their members did not behave properly. This can happen to me in the next minute. I think that protection is also necessary. I don't think our legislation is that bad. So I don't think we will legislate people who cause such problems. Or if so, it will be an unusual event. It won't happen often. Can I ask you a few questions to help them with that? Of course. Yes.

Do you need a little longer process? I think from your point of view, you can avoid the final clause that the Council's decision to suspend or expel the CET Manager should not be reviewed. Mr. Olhousas agrees. I...

I don't understand how you can stand on that last sentence. I don't think so either. Because, even if this is an appeal against a council decision, forgive me, even if this council is not a council, even if it is a council decision, or even if it is one of many other cases that can be filed, this charter is not about what it says. Isn't it? Frank, don't look down on us. But I think that line is a wrong intention, as we discussed earlier. And, to be honest, if this language was in this, I would have needed more attorney fees and other means of compensation for my clients. But if I was a lawyer in this case, I would have needed more. Oh, I put it in there because I wanted to make sure it was a little short. We don't need it. It wasn't in my notes last time. So I don't need it. That is to be discussed again. And that's why I'm avoiding it now. Is that all? I'm sorry.

No, that's why I'm just asking. No, that's why I don't really understand your opinions.

It can be my fault sometimes. Others can understand it too. Are you saying that this campaign should be more courageous? Are you saying that more votes should be given to five people to start this campaign? No, the last time we spoke, it was about the lack of wages for the next two months and the things we discussed later. The union voted five times in four months and stopped the payment. Do we have five times? What was it? That's five. Outside the farm. Yes, that's why.

As a rule, this is a rule. If we reach this stage, I expect that before reaching this stage, the State of the CET Manager or the Council will have tried to discuss the separation of the council. However, that is what I want. Therefore, some of it can be counted. However, I don't know how much you want to stop the Bawile Council. There will be severance. There will be no severance. Such a coincidence. I think you are right.

It is better to let the council decide what is best for the council at that time. Because what we thought 10 years ago will not be what we think now. At that time, we will not even think about AI systems or carers. So, in this, there is a good trap. This is not necessary for the council, because it would be better for the church to earn thousands of dollars a week and give it to the city. That extra week will be given to them and allowed for the church to do it. But if we write down how things should be done every time. It would be similar to putting our own feet on the ground. That's why I think what you're saying is right. That final decision needs to be made. But the council needs to have as much freedom as possible to make their decisions. Their timetable needs to be allowed to be decided. But in some way.

We're not going to stop anyone for four months. So what you're trying to do is to set a time limit here? Because, after voting, that is, after all the discussions, if you are not able to reach a decision on termination of the CET Manager, if you decide to vote, the CET Manager has the right to need a hearing within five days of the notice. It should be sent by mail or through a legal director. Then it will be confirmed that it was received correctly. After that, within 7 days, I say calendar days, I request the manager to wait for the next hearing. For the next hearing to take place, it should take 15 to 30 days. After that, there is a right for the CET manager to legislate and file again, but that is not necessary. Then, after the official hearing, or if such a request is not received, the council can take action to remove them whenever it wants. No one is required to remove them. That second vote can be taken then. I understand what you are saying 100%. This is the end of the system. I think it's the way. When we can't discuss it in detail, but it doesn't say anywhere. You have to try. That's right.

We have to pay attention only to the end of the day, and then don't do it. In that, it says that a hearing should be held within a period of 15 days before or after 30 days after the need for a council meeting. These are the ins and outs of it. Yes, I think if you think about how long it will take for one person to appoint a speaker, it would be safe for everyone to have a meeting with three speakers and appoint one person. It will be possible to reach a decision together. Because now the council and the speaker are involved. As we know, they don't keep things in secret. But this will help new CET managers to pay a security fee. Because of the council's attention, the council can continue discussions.

So, do you think it's fair for everyone to stay for 60 days? That's why.

Yes, because the window on those two weeks seems very small. If we think about getting an interpreter, I mean, we need to conduct a hearing, whether it's our CET manager or CET attorney. If we are in Europe for two weeks, we can't do that.

If it's Christmas or two weeks before Christmas, we will have to use this two weeks. It's like everyone is coming back for the New Year. Don't get me wrong. This is a good thing. We can do that. Yes. But. Okay. Then.

Therefore, if you make it 60 days, you will get time to stay within 14 days instead of 5 days for the general hearing. Because it takes time for the CET manager to prepare a notice for the attorney. Instead of telling the CET manager directly that I want a hearing. What are you changing to 14 days?

That will be in Section B, within 7 days of the calendar given to the CET Manager. If you make the hearing within 60 days, I will make it 14 days. So, the 7 there is changed to 14.

Then, do you change it or not? Section C says 7. Yes, yes, because they both come the same way.

Okay, so this is 14. I wanted to use the provisions provided, but it doesn't seem appropriate to the Charter. Anyway, this is a very well-written document.

Oh, no, no problem. Thank you.

And if we extend this to 60 days, we should say this at least 10 days before the hearing. So again, the council and the legal director are 7, or 1.7. And if the council and the legal director are doing the same thing again, the council will have time to ask, what do you think? Yes, I think that's a good idea. Everyone has the opportunity to think about what they are writing in Kadalas. It is better to write something else and expect it to be correct. Therefore, if an ordinary council is dissatisfied with the CET manager, they will not try to have a discussion with that person before they reach this department. 1. This is just a way. No one will expect. If they cannot have a discussion at the end of the term, they will stop voting. No one will expect that they will accept that approach. Yes. Shady. Therefore, they will have a discussion in a way. It is not beneficial. Therefore, they are going to exclude them. He or she is not ready to move, so they are going to force him to leave. Okay. This is not going to happen.

When does the council vote? Do we have to say that the general council has to decide in the meeting or in the executive session? That is, can they call a special meeting on any day of the week?

Therefore, if it is a return, and before I forget it, Mr. Straw House's announcement of the payment suspension should be 75 days. Because we are taking 60 plus days. The days before that. Such things. but they cannot take part in an executive session due to your request. Therefore, if this is not an ordinary night of council yoga, they will decide on a special council yoga, they will listen to a general discourse, they will listen to a general discourse, they will go to an executive session to discuss the job of an employee, and they will have to take part in an executive session through Rekha. Is it mandatory for them to say that? Yes. Where did they say that? What is the underlying reason?

Yes, it should be mentioned in the announcement. The reason to remove it. The reason to remove it. So, is it only in the letter to the CET manager? It is in this. It is in the document. Then it will become general. Why them? Yes, the reasons will be included in the agreement itself. But if they do it in the executive session and decide, they will find the reasons in the executive session themselves. But they have to come back. The decision is made only in the official part of the agreement. Let me make that clear.

This is more than enough for a city's CET manager. Because what you are doing now is all about HR. We are not advertising this. This is not an advertisement. This is a security statement. If you go now, everything is over. You are forcing us to go there and conduct an executive session. Make a real decision. We have no other option but to turn this into an advertisement. That too on Tatsamayam TV. That is why, in the case of people who behave in a very bad way, this city has more power.

Yes, that is a great point. I felt that it was important, so. If for any reason the council has not conducted any previous discussions or efforts on the issue, no one should interfere. The CET manager should know that. What is the reason, or what is the lack of it? I think that the changes in the constitution are significant. Thank you. Do we need that? Forgive me. In the beginning, it was said that the old part should be as long as possible. Is that language needed there? No.

Therefore, the speaker will understand that something else has happened. We have conducted those discussions in a way. No.

The reason is not what that language means. Okay. Yes. It is said that it will be said as per the counsel's instructions that it will not be removed arbitrarily. It is said arbitrarily only in a different way. Okay. Ms. Cox, I have to go to the next one. Okay. On the next page, you can see that I gave the statement on the same page as well. The reason is that they are related to each other. Otherwise, the question is, what is the problem? Please forgive me, sir.

Please forgive me for doing this. Can I ask you another question?

Certainly. Let's ask. With pleasure.

My question was as follows, under the section called B here, it is said that the hearing will get the opportunity to participate in the city at least five days earlier. The CET manager can apply for the deputy clerk of the council through REGA, but it is not mandatory. The hearing can seek legal assistance in its own expense to help the opposition. At whose expense?

At the expense of the CET manager. I didn't want to use his or her name. So I used it as its. Can we say at the expense of the CET manager?

The reason is its. The only one who naturally mentions it is the agent in this. It must be a council. So the council is now paying for this. Yes. No. It's a good decision.

I'm sorry. No need. After that, I wrote seven. I know I said ten. But I wrote seven. So, do you want 7 or 10 in the order before you hear the word? Do you think 10 days is good?

Okay. We all agree. Okay.

So, there is no big difference. Do we have to fill in the calendar days? No, if you don't. No.

The reason I gave you the calendar days is to make it clear that it is not the working days. So, calendar days means the days in the calendar itself. If you say working days, what do you have to fill in the working days? Are we taking in the working days? Federal working days. If it is the calendar.

Thank you. Please forgive me for going back. Okay, go.

D. He is not ready to move forward. D. There is a second there.

I knew there was a second there. Oh. Will the city get paid during suspension?

Yes. Okay. Is there anything else about section 55? I'm sorry. Okay. Let's move forward. Okay. The problem here is to make it clear that the truth is to be told to someone. Therefore, these two departments operate together. In the state, the Charter says that each employee is required to take and submit the statement that is being said. Then, it is not the employee who is employed in the employment of the employee and the life of the worker, but the employee who is employed. Therefore, Section 1008 should make changes to either the law or both, that is, each employee in the city should make a statement. Then it makes it clear that all council members will be included in any board or commission that is used through the charter or council. If you are on the property management board according to what is currently available, you do not need to prove that it was not used through the charter. Then let's say it's a pleasure. The charter review was used through the charter, wasn't it? Yes, it was used by the council. So now it has to be done. This was an obvious mistake. The legal director is a question mark. Because according to the charter, they are counted as a part of the city. They are a living person. We are coming to that. But just a small suggestion. It is very interesting to see if everyone has been included in this. Therefore, I think it will be approved if any board or commission used by the Charter or Council is included. Yes, what is that language? It is included in the direct actions. Then all the boards and commissions will be included in this, right?

Yes, madam. The Art Council is not doing it on a monthly basis. But they have to do it because they are spending money from the budget. Yes. That's why I'm asking. Yes. Okay.

Do you have any other questions or opinions? Okay. This brings us to the question of whether this is a debate or whether it is about what we should do. It is said that there are five different offices in the Charter. Law Office, Public Service Office, Public Security Office, Public Security Office, Tax Office. In addition, it accepts all other offices, offices and agencies that can be established, changed or removed by the Council through an ordinance. The council can now re-organize all the activities and activities that are in the middle. Therefore, there is no public relief in the state. Isn't that right, sir? Yes, that's right. Parks and Rake, which is a major part of urban development, is there. There is also the IET section, which is a major part of the urban development in the modern world. Therefore, it is related to the parts that continue because this section has been improved by keeping this in mind. But the question is whether it should be divided into parks and rec, ID, etc. as specific sections. Another way to put it is, there are some particular references from the Balat issue. I don't know if you would like to use a place in Balat to change this path. Another way to put it is, if we have 20 years, more suggestions for Vedas. This may be the same as everyone says. Okay, we have 19 points. Because this part is not included in the ballot. But again, when we move on to the next part, keep that in mind. Next is the law. A director will be the head of this. I am not a citizen of the city. We are an institution in Karar. He is a resident of a director city. He says that he will serve the director, manager, mayor, officials, and officer boards. You know what we do on a daily basis, right? We do a lot of work. We also perform all the other duties that we are given. The reason for the moon is that if they are a living being, they are in that director's head, or they have to admit that they can send any official or official who is outside like the moon. Or the official who works outside the city. Description I don't know if this is the right place for a ballot. But even if it is possible to change the candidates and candidates, an in-house CET attorney or a lifeguard should be there. There are in-house CET attorneys for cities of various sizes. Yes. Do you know any history about this? Because it seems that the perception of a living person from this has been consciously avoided. They haven't said that you can work in Karanadistan. But in the first sentence, there is no suggestion that you should be a living person. You are just known as CET attorney. Since it is said to be in the direction of a director, it goes back to the organization chart. Okay, okay. Yes, the reason.

I have heard that the CET attorney is referred to as a law director or CET attorney. That's why. Yes, but that's not what it means.

This is about the management head of the organization chart. Okay, okay. Yes, sorry for using the city in 1960.

One can be a full-time director of an attorney law firm. In some cities, there are full-time attorneys who act as legal directors. So, even if the law allows it, the law here allows the service to be put on the ground floor. So again, I don't think this is a matter for Mungana to hand over. However, this is agreed upon. As a director, is it mandatory for that person to be a full-time worker? Or is it possible to appoint a part-time director who works only for a few hours a week? I don't think it is clearly stated in the Charter, right? No, I don't think it will be in the Charter.

That's HR. It's in the rules.

Yes, but all the directors in the state are city residents all the time. In my opinion, there are other systems that should be implemented in the city that are more important than this. However, people are now saying this is because they agreed to it. Let me point out that this has also come up in the previous Charter Review Committees. I don't know if you remember this, but generally this has only given very little progress, because the Park and Rec Council operates under Section 61 of the Constitution, and the CET Council has the right to create new councils without entering them in the Charter. In other words, it would be a good idea to include this in the front of the ballot at a time when there are very few charter applications. But when looking at other things in the list, only the front list is less than this, because things are going well on a regular basis, but it may have to be reviewed in one instance.

What was the real intention of the public service? So what was the intention? I think it will be like a health service. Oh, right. Because the information about the health service is coming immediately. Oh, let me turn the page. Oh, right. So the same.

80, 90, and many other cities had their own health facilities. Then they built it in the county. That's why.

That's too much of a lie. So we don't need law 67, law 68, and law 1 to legislate a health facility. Instead, it only says that a city should legislate a health facility with certain rights. That is, this is a matter for the city to decide, and the city is not responsible for doing so. Yes.

The reason I say this is not mandatory is because the council has too many complaints against the departments that are in charge. Or it is up to 6 to 1 to decide whether to give or not. So, is this an obligation to the council as a ballot? Or do we have to worry about this now? And that is your decision. What I am saying is, next week when you get all the documents that you intended to submit to the council, there will be enough time to submit to the council. But of course, we don't need that asterisk symbol. People's safety, safety, health and safety are all under the Park and Rec Act. Then, you know, the Park and Rec Act is bringing so many things forward. I also thought the same. This is including things in a way.

Okay, so let's go from 10 to 4. How can we define a charter? Um, there were some different suggestions. Um, one, a certain amount of time is required for the implementation of a charter. Um, I don't know why there are 8 years in many charters. It may be between 5 and 10, I don't know. I don't know. Um. Then, do you need anything else? So, let's stand there for a little while. Stand on my side. It's not wrong to have such a base. It has to be examined over a certain period of time. There's no point in changing anything. Still, we have to go through that process. Still, it's not an easy process for the city. In addition, this test will take place in a year with other important things and responsibilities, but since it is the 8th year or so, you will have to do it. So, in my view, this test is a benefit in such circumstances. Because, if anything happens in the next year, they will call another charter review and decide what to approve and what not to approve. The next thing to be considered is whether there should be restrictions on who should be allowed to use this. That is, I don't know. Whether you want it or not, but many cities say that if you are an employee in the state, even if you are a living person, even if you are a Christian in the planning commission, no one should act in the charter review, because the state needs people who are not able to work or live. There are some benefits to it. But it has to be found by the people. If you think about it, it means that Kristen won't be here. Then, when they were talking about the planning commission, they didn't know anyone else. Mr. Atkins, I don't remember when you left the board. Okay, so it's usually within six months or a year. So, but here...

On the other hand, it is important to get people who are aware and interested. So I can see both sides. I don't think a CET manager will rule over a resident in the state. That's why I don't really mind writing about that issue. That's all I have to say. I think what you're saying is right. Sometimes it helps to provide information from other committees. That is, What we are changing here is not directly affecting Kristen.

Kristen. If she was interested in getting her out of that committee, she wouldn't have been allowed into it. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Fortunately, you weren't close to her. Yes, if there are conditions for us to submit something in front of the council, this is not a big deal. But we have to say that employees who have been chosen should not be included in this, because it should be this, if they want to be allowed to do anything. That's it. Um. If an employee who has been chosen is included in this, if they agree with everyone and are allowed to serve in this, will they have to hide from the vote that gives them approval, or will they be able to vote? They have to hide. But that is not necessary.

This is a pleasant protest because they do not have any particular interest in the results of this. So this will not be a problem of interest. They should change the law when they return.

Yes. Do the council members say in the Charter that they should not serve in any other places? In the city? Other places? I think that's how it is. I agree. Then it, it will be resolved.

That's a very good question. In that case?

Council members are allowed to go to certain boards, right?

They can't work in other public offices in the city of Vanilla. So those offices are not public offices. This is not a public office. This is not a public office. I think you are right.

That is, the importance of this board is very low compared to the others we have talked about so far.

Council members will be able to understand what is said there if there is any problem. Council members do not have any hindrance in listening to all the discussions at these meetings, so they will know the details. Yes, to be honest, I can't even imagine that a council member would say, I want to serve in that committee. Still, let's make sure that the CET manager and other council members join hands on this issue. That problem must be solved. After a few years, this will be included in the priority list. As you know, in another way, it is a monthly list.

Yes, by the end of the year. I think that those who are in that position will look at that list and say, oh, this is important. When I nominate, it is better not to include anyone of their choice. Some of them in this list,

There are some Charters that make it clear who has the right to legislate the Charter Committee.

According to the government's decision, some of these are submitted to the Mayor, some to the CET Manager, and some to the Council. Some committees determine the number of members. Therefore, it is up to the council to decide how many members of a city can be included in this.

But again... Is that how it is for us? No.

Our charter says that this has to be approved by the United Institution of Education. Okay, so... They had the right to legislate us.

They gave congratulations to the council.

So, that's the council's decision. Okay. Yes.

That's the reason. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yes. The reason is that this is a committee that was approved by the council or approved by the council. I understand. Yes. Thank you. Forgive me. Is that a rebuttal? Okay.

Shall we go back to the previous bullet point?

How many years has it been since we conducted this survey? If the memory is correct, 15. 10. For the past 10 years, this has been the main issue of the referendum. That is why the council has reaffirmed the need for this. The Charter has not held a referendum for more than 20 years in another government in the north. That is why they have to issue a number of amendments in the upcoming elections. So, I hope this does not happen again in my time. But I feel that, CET management and the CET Council are not paying attention to certain issues. It has been going on for many years. You are seeing many problems that need to be addressed. I believe that the answer to the bullet point for everything we discussed is the same. It should be in the Charter. Because we have been waiting for 10 years. Another community has been waiting for 20 years. If there is no obligation, will we reach the same level again in 10 years to say we have to do this? There is a possibility, yes. But, if there is no need, what will inspire us to do this in 5 years? One problem.

I don't know how long we will be behind then. Eight or ten years. Yes, there will be a lot of problems that we will have to deal with.

But we will make it a little longer.

Some of the things we change are the language, not the big things. However, there is no need for amendments in the Charter as in the Constitution. It does not mean that it is not good to conduct a referendum every five years, eight years or ten years, but it is not necessary. At that time, you don't have to make a lot of changes. But again, what you are saying is completely correct. And there may be a problem with that. It is a temporary agreement that needs to be approved, but it is not approved. But that's why you have a forehand initiative. It can be changed through the forehand of the Charter. The Ohio Revised Code. It is not through our Charter, but through the Ohio Revised Code. I think the question is whether it is the cause of diseases or not. Oh, of course. Yes. It doesn't mean that something has to change just because an epidemic is going on.

That's right. That's completely right. So, how do you confirm that?

Because again, I saw that some are 5 years old. I saw a lot within 8 years. Again, I think it's because it's common to get 5 and 10 more. Then some were 10 years old. And I think 5 years is very less. So if we include this or if we stop this increase, I will make it 8 to 10. Can we make it possible? The council can approve this, or it can be approved for that. If you set a time limit, it should be available.

Because they can approve this whenever they want. That's right.

If they want to say, they have to approve it. Even if it is reduced to 10 years. It will allow you to do it in advance, but it cannot be extended to 10 years. Yes, it should not be extended to 10 years, but yes.

I think we can come up with a suitable language for it. It will be like that. Do you want me to come up with a language like that next time? You can always do it in the next world. Okay, next time we are going to investigate everything, so I'll bring the language I suggested. You can either accept it or not take it forward. No, I understand that this is not a big deal. Yes, yes. But when we come to this topic, this is an opportunity to think. It is only possible if you have a language that fits the next issue or is listed in the list. If it is not declared in the council or if the council does not take it forward, it will be confirmed that it is listed in the list. The next charter will have the language to be approved by the Avalokan Samidhi. Certainly. For any simple ancestors,

And we reached the end of the things that we intended and intended to do. And I am investigating another thing that I need to talk to the Mayor and the CET Manager about. It will be a completely new department. You need to consider it. So next time a new system may come. Otherwise, it will not come. I will be able to know it next week. Miss Wiggins, didn't you have some other arrangements with you?

Was it really in those rooms? It was in the arrangements I made tonight. So it's 3.88. For me, it's 1. Let me look at that. That was another thing. What I thought was that the proceedings would start according to the council's instructions. My question is, when will that happen? Is it only in normal council meetings? Because if someone is convicted of a crime, do we proceed according to that? Can that be done in a special meeting? Do we have to include any lines that indicate that? That was my question. This should only happen in a general meeting. Right. That's all right. But, Then we talk about whether we are being punished or responsible for the crime. Can anyone or anything be prosecuted for this act? For example, if it is something that does not want to stop even if it is just an accusation, or if it is a temporary act on the part of the victim, what will you do? Is it enough to be punished? That is, if there is an appeal against someone.

The appeal can be included in the second part. That is, the reason for the loss of public confidence. Okay, okay. Then it will be fine there. Okay.

I think I forgot it while examining all this. Umm. I think it is better to consult with the Council CET Attorney, saying that there is no need to take action before any criminal investigation is completed.

Okay. Okay. Um. There was another thing. Where is it? I think my other things were related to the certificate. Where is it? Council. I think it was in this part. Yes, after the approval of the five council members, the council affected council members should be notified via certified mail.

Should we stop the certified mail itself or give a delivery option? Yes. This is a question about the safety of the city. Yes.

I have no objection to hand-delivering directly. Let the legal director or CET attorney do it, the CET manager should not stand in that position. What you have to do is, first of all, show the delivery. So, the green card that is not returned because it is never returned, or the CET add-on that says, I will hand it over to that person today. Yes, then the only reason for this is that we need that option.

I don't force it, but not only through certified mail, are you interested in handing it over directly to the city? If so, we must add it. If it is a law director or attorney, can we say so? If the question is raised about whether it was received or not, you will be called as a witness. Therefore, you will have to step back from representing the law director city. If it is a certified mail or other ordinary things with delivery proof, how will it be? Yes, yes.

That's one thing, but...

I'll try to get you out of the way as far as I'm concerned. Yes, to represent the council and bring in a new representative. We have to do that for the removal of the CET manager.

Yes. Yes. See, that's why I put you in this committee. Go.

I had to do it instead of the previous plane flight. Oh, that's good. It has nothing to do with the previous one. In fact, it has something to do with the previous plane flights.

It's not a pass. I have to fix everything in the evening. Then the other section was section 71, 74 anyway. I think it's here. But it may not be there sometimes. If that's the case, I can bring it next week. She was in the previous attachment. Where is she?

Yes, she is in the last pages. What I have to say about these two is that the instructions should be in the same order. So, when you read the paragraphs, you should get the same information. But she is in a different order. That is one thing. Yes. There is a reason for that.

Okay. That's because the CET manager is an ex-officio. That's why I had to change things. I changed it to make it feel right when I read it. But I'll look at the procedure.

That's more. Okay. I thought we had the same thing. I thought it would be easy to read if it was in the same procedure. In the same procedure as the base.

Then? We need to end more time in 74 out of 2 years. Do we need that language in 71? No. The reason is still present. One of them.

Yes. Two and five.

Yes, I will check it.

Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it.

Yes, I will check it. Yes, I will check it.

You should only have two. So, when you do this, you should actually plan the time. The Planning Commission is not the same. They have planned it in a small way. So... But do we need to prevent it from happening there?

No, because once the planning starts, it will not change.

You are expecting. No, because now they are coming to an indefinite period. It is different from what happened before. They are being regulated for three years without considering when they are being regulated. If we do this, it will not happen to BZA and BZA.

No, because now everyone's period is going to end at the same time.

So we have to say, hey, only two at the same time. So we have to create. To make it happen. Yes, right. Yes. When we are talking about that, in the end what we are saying is that the commission members should not hold other municipal positions. What is the purpose of that? Is it another board or commission or a chosen position?

Yes, I understood that as a citizen, a citizen, a citizen. Okay, but in that?

There are no other municipal offices. So you can't run a county office. You can't run a county office. It's not a county municipal office. But it says you shouldn't be a city resident. That was my intention. But I was sure. The only reason I asked was because of selfishness. No, it's because of the Arts Council. I'm in both. Yes, when I was appointed, it was a question. Can you both work together? The law director said that it shouldn't be. There's nothing to say. Then if we add anything, it's it. No, it's not clear. I would be happy to move out of those committees. But... I don't want to. I will make it clear. Because the Municipal Board is a board or a commission related to me. That's it. That's not what I meant to say. But I understand where you're going.

So I'll fix it. I'm not stopping anyone from taking over the Municipal Board or becoming a municipal resident. Resident. Yes, that was my intention.

Nalladu. Adhaayadu. Chila nagarangalil unda, planning commission anengil matturu CET boardilum pravartikan kalli illa. Atharam kaaryangal. Ivide athinde aavisham illunnu nyan karudunnu. Ninakurappanoo. Endu. Ninakurappanoo. Ningal kuliyanam innundengil, sandoshathode nyanadu taram. Veinda. Nyangalka kulappam illa. Pakshi enikunnu vektham aakannam. Any question? Yes. Anything related to this.

That is, he became the CET Manager for Mr. Foley. He got married to Emanwood. Emanwood appointed him as the Council Chair. Was it necessary for him to do that? I don't think it's necessary for Vanliya.

But it's possible for Emanwood.

So, sometimes, both of them could have been united, if it had not been opposed. If it had not been opposed here, I don't think it would have been like that in reality. But, it would not have been opposed here.

There was one person who was the Poundship Trustee of the former Deputy Clerk of the Council of Vanliya. Is there a possibility of interest?

Yes, there is. Yes. Then, if there is any kind of vote, for example, if it is in the Emanudu Navel or Tri-CDC, if he comes to vote in those votes, if he achieves service in the council, he will have to resign at that time. But if there is any kind of land change with Emanudu, he will have to do it. But because of the location of Amenwood, it can happen. But... Dispatch.

Dispatch. Dispatch service records.

I don't want to insult anyone. I don't want to insult anyone. Yes. I don't want to insult anyone.

But when you get a person who works in two different areas, it seems like a problem. Does the word municipal office mean Vanliya Nagaram? According to your example, if someone is staying, or if they are working in any township, they have to stay in Vanliya. But if they are working, do you understand what I am saying? For example, yes, so again, one for another. Yes, it has happened like that.

If you are taking a planning commission, it has normal rules. If you are working in another municipality in Ayyalnagar, you cannot work in a planning commission. Reason 2. What are the prerequisites for a job?

Such things. So, is this another municipal office intended for Vanli or any municipality? So, I will make it clear that it was intended for Vanli. Yes.

Or should we say that other municipal offices are not allowed? I feel that no one should be elected anywhere. They can't be elected anywhere. They can't because they have to.

They can become a county commissioner.

But that's not a municipal office.

But that's not a municipal office. Yes. The only municipal offices that are eligible to be elected are the vander municipal offices. Avoid that. That's a government office. This is a reserved place. Yes. Okay. Thank you all for the wonderful conversation tonight. Um. Anji, what is our next yoga? Our next yoga is in this room for 30 minutes after 5 p.m. on the 24th of September. Do you have any other suggestions before we end this? Okay. I accept your suggestion to split up. I accept your suggestion.

I will follow it. Thank you. Everyone who agrees.

Everyone who opposes. We split up at 7 in the morning for 7 minutes. Thank you.