Planning and Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Good evening and welcome to the April 2026 meeting of the city of Tuscaloosa Planning and Zoning Commission. Any written comments sent to staff or forwarded to the commission directly. At this time I'd like to introduce our staff. We have Mr. Jimbo Woodson, deputy city attorney. Michael Garner, city engineer. Zack Ponds, director of planning. Leotaa Coin, principal planner. There are nine members of the planning commission. All of them are appointed by the mayor for staggered terms with the exception of the city council representative who is appointed by the city council. I would ask the commission members introduce themselves and state the occupation beginning with M. Hornsby.

Annne Hornsby, attorney. Councilwoman Raven Howard, District 2. Eddie Pew, retired. Steven Ramsey, business owner. Uh, Vince Douly, UA, Campus Development. Jim Harrison, general contractor.

A Bill Wright, business owner. There were signup sheets located outside for public comment. Four speakers are allowed to speak in favor of a petition and four speakers are allowed to speak in opposition of a petition. All speakers will have a maximum of five minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time. The nice procedures. The commission will take up items in the order of our final agenda. The commission will initially receive a presentation from the staff as to the details of the agenda item. Addition, we may hear certain matters involving the same property, such as an annexation and a zoning matter concurrently, although we will take separate votes on each matter involving the same property. After the staff presentation, we'll then call upon the petitioner to present their case. The petitioner will have a maximum of 10 minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time. At the conclusion of the petitioner's remarks, we then call upon any parter in party in order of sign up who desires to support the petition. Thereafter, we'll call upon any parter in order to sign up in opposition of the petition. When it's your turn for comment, please introduce yourself stating your name and address to the commission to provide your remarks. Again, any written comments have been included into the record. After receiving the remarks of those who oppose the petition, the petitioner will have the opportunity to respond to those objections. Any rebuttal will be limited to two minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time. If the petitioner presents any new information in response to the objections, the commission will allow those who who uh oppose the petition the opportunity to respond to the new information only. Any response be limited to two minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time. During the course of this presentation, you may be interrupted by any member of the commission for clarification or additional information. Such

interruptions will not reduce your time. Once the commission members are satisfied that they have received all uh pertinent information then close further discussion by the public at which time the commission will discuss the matter and then vote. After the vote you are free to leave. These proceedings are video recorded and broadcast live. So all inperson public comments be made at the podium into the microphone. jurisdiction in all matters pertaining to the following items. This commission serves as the final authority. One, subdivisions located within city limits. Two, subdivisions located outside city limits but within the city's planning jurisdiction. And three, developments with a special district. And four, approval letters for developments in historic buffer districts. As to all matters remaining, including annexations, reszonings, planned developments, and street vacations, this commission serves as a recommending by to the city council. In that regard, our decisions are in the form of a recommendation to be presented to city council, and the city council will make the final decisions. Subdivision approval requires the affirmative vote of six members of the planning commission. All matters which are recommendations to the city council require majority vote for an affirmative recommendation. At this time I'll ask do any members of the commission have any conflicts of interest as to any agenda matters before us tonight? If so, please state for the record. Having heard none, I would ask staff to confirm on the record that proper notice has been given to all parties and interest as required by law as to all matters before the commission tonight.

It has. Okay. All right, with that we will begin with the approval of the minutes. As the planning is zoning commission have received the synopsis of the March 2026 meeting, I move that we dispense with the readings of the minutes and the same unless there are any deletions, additions or corrections. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed. Eyes have it. Steph, I think we have some items that are going to move off of the You going to do framework first or you?

We'll do. Yes, we'll address the uh items that moved off the consent agenda here in a little bit. All right. So, since we have pretty much half or most of our frequent flyers in the room tonight with a huge agenda, um we thought this would be a good opportunity to give you a little teaser. So, our subdivision regulations update is coming. Um so framework as you all know the comprehensive plan was adopted in 2021 our zoning ordinance in 2024 the subregs were adopted in September 1980 so they are due for um modernization so couple of key points that we're going to hit that we heard through the framework process through a survey that we had you know sent out um related to the subregs we want to modernize the regulations and align those with framework develop lake specific standards, create procedures for master planning and phasing as well as simplify the processes for things like lot consolidations. Um, so I know we've got a QR code. This might be somewhat of a long meeting, but we do have since we I think it was 2022 that we did the survey previously. Um, we created a new survey uh with four questions. Um, pretty simple, but we just want to hear from land surveyors, engineers as to what they think, you know, needs to change or needs to be updated within the zoning or within the um, subdivision regulations. So, I'll leave this up for a quick second. We'll also email this out to all of y'all as well. Um, but, you know, to kill some time during this meeting, you could also do it right now if you'd like. Um, but I can answer any questions with you guys. So, you know, hopefully next um meeting we'll have more of a laid out plan as to, you know, as to what we're going to go over and how long it's going to take like we did with framework and the

zoning ordinance. All right. So, staff question on the two items that are moving off the consent agenda, will they fall in the numerical order they are listed as or will they No. So, uh, Miss Coin is going to come up and lead you through these.

All right, Commission. The consent agenda tonight, we have three items. I believe someone accidentally signed up on S2526. Um, they crossed it off, so that one can stay on consent agenda unless we have someone here tonight. Uh, but S2926, we did receive public comment ahead of the meeting, so that one will be first on the cases to be heard tonight. So, no one else signed up, but if anyone else is here, um, we can double check. You had a signup sheet on S2526. So, they crossed their name out, so I believe it was an accident. Um,

okay. So, we're going to move all those to cases to be heard after we do the unfinished. So, only S 2926, S2326, and S2526, unless someone's in the audience that didn't sign up. You're able to keep those on the consent agenda tonight.

So, we have two items on the consent agenda, which is S2326 uh and 2526 will stay on the consent agenda. 29 26 rolls off. I think it's only fair we ask does anyone here have any questions about 25 26 or 23 26? Okay. All right. Commissioner Forest, we have those two items on the consent agenda meeting all regulations and approvals necessary. Do I get a a I if you approve or n if you do not approve. So all those in favor say I. I. Those opposed? Eyes have it.

All right. We do have one case requesting to withdraw tonight. That is S3126. And the petitioner is here to request that. Petitioner.

Jonathan Juan, uh, 1333 Downing Ridge, Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35406. Here to request withdrawal of this petition. I was the original petitioner for this. Okay. All right. Any questions for the petitioner? All right. Commission, we have a withdrawal request for S3126. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed. Eyes have it. Thank you.

All right. Moving into unfinished business. We're going to start with a resoning petition tonight. That is Z0726. James Bearden petitions to reszone approximately 02 acres located at 28421 18th Street from MR1 to SFR5. This is council district 1. This has continued from the March meeting. See we're just west of um excuse me east of West Lawn Middle School. Um you see that property today. Um satellite imagery is a little out of date. That house has already been demoed. Um you can see the existing zonings MR1. Here's that property today. You can see that house has been removed. Um, the applicant is requesting this reszoning change from MR1 to SFR5 to build a duplex. Um, and here is a conceptual site plan. So, the whole lot you can see on the left side and then I just zoomed in on the the duplex units on the right for a little additional detail here. Um, and like I said, this is conceptual at this time. Um staff does have cons some concerns with the layout as presented. Um here's some sample floor plans. You see the first floors on the right, second floor on the left. Um in framework, this property is identified as traditional neighborhood core. Um this request does conform to the plan as well as the use. You can see that identified here. Here are permitted uses in SFR5. Um and you'll see a duplex. it is permitted in their existing zoning of MR1. Um they're not meeting the lot requirements to build in their existing zoning. Uh we did not receive any written public comment. I know we had a few folks last month and some folks did sign up to speak tonight, but do you have any questions for staff?

Who backed up the uh street view of of the the property? That house on the right, is that vehicle parked on the grass or is that That's not a parking spot, is it?

It looks like it might be parked on the grass. Any questions? Staff petitioner James Bearden 2420 Street Tuscalus Alabama 35401. staff on the I'm ask staff a question first on the um pull back up the site plan please.

So I'm seeing a twocar parking in the front. Correct. I'll have to change that per speaking with uh zoning. Looks like four car parking. Two on each unit. I guess my question is how are you going to I mean you have to fundamentally change the whole building. Wouldn't you? I'll just put two. Where you going put where you going to put the parks in? I'll put two in the back and two in the front. Accessing the two in the back off that alley.

Yes, sir. But even still, are we going to encourage that? I mean, is that where we're going? I mean, the word traditional, I mean, if we start it, are we going to be able to stop it? You know what I'm talking about, Bill. I mean, contrary to the plan we put together downtown. Leo, do you you when you when you described this, you said that fundamentally y'all had an issue with the current layout. What what was that?

The primary concern is the the four cars parked in the front yard. Um, we would allow a maximum of 20 ft of paving per the zoning ordinance. Um, and I believe in this zone, a maximum of 50% overall paving in the front yard. So, between the four cars, it's not meeting the parking requirements. So, I guess, Mr. Beard, my my issue with this is that I mean, I understand the process by which you're going through and we're trying to change zoning so you can conform with this use, but without us seeing the actual product that's going here, it's hard for us to make a decision. Okay.

And this is just this is this seems to be just a schematic representation of what you could do there because you're having to do all the changes these changes to make to make concessions. Okay. So need to show another parking layout. I I would like to show you what you're actually going to build. I I know for me if I can interject I would like to see more details. I mean of of what you actually as he just said I don't know how else to say it but what you actually plan to do in a way that that conforms with what you are requesting here before us today.

Okay. So So how wide I'm trying to So So the lot is 50 feet wide. Is that right? Yes sir. So you could get I guess if you if they allowed you to go property line to property line you could get four and a half spaces at 9 ft wide and maybe closer to five at 8 and a half. I'm I'm doing some quick math. Could you not bay park four to the rear in that in that schematic and get them out of the front yard? That would be preferable. Okay. But then their primary access to the driveway will be through the alley.

Yes. And and then of course you'd have street parking. I didn't see a yellow curb. I mean they could park on the street it appears. So guests could park in the front access and and the owners or tenants or whatever could park to the rear legally and we could reestablish for not start a present that could well Mr. And I obviously you acknowledge you have some work to do and and the counciloman is asking for a better more clearer visual of what you're going to build. I think so. You got an option. You can you can ask for a vote and we can vote on this what we see here or you can ask for a continuence and try to work the bugs out with the staff on what they want and maybe give them this Howard and or at least have something to show her that makes her feel more comfortable.

Mr. Chairman, could we vote if he if he if he if he kind of made a pinky promise to Bay Park from the rear and and get that approved by Mike and and staff? Well, we also have some public comment as well. We do. And we'll hear those. He did. Okay. All right. Well, we'll I tell you what, the best thing we can do here is let these folks spent the time effort to get up here and hear them as well. That way you'll hear their concerns and maybe in this whole reprocess, right? you can kind of help put them at peace, too. Okay. You're going to ask for continuence, correct? Did I hear that? That that's fine. That's what I think would be wise. Okay.

So, have a seat for a minute. Let's call these people up real quickly. Let's hear from them. Mr. Chairman, the first person that's u signed up to speak is Miss Beverly Wilson.

Yeah. My name is Beverly D. Wilson. I live at 5416 Third Court East, Tuscaloosa, Alabama 3545. My church is near this dwelling near this uh property. And I was wondering why it's all single dwelling on that street and now he want to make a duplex. And one of the dwellings has had a renovation. and somebody bought it and renovated the house and uh they moved in and he was saying it was an alley. I don't know where the alley is. It's not an alley. Oh, it doesn't exist in the back of it. It doesn't exist. No, that's a problem.

And I've I've gone to church. I'm 75 years old, so I've been in that neighborhood that long. And the house next door, they said there was I know the man next door on the right has a a driveway. Now whether somebody parking on the grass every now and then, I don't know. Are we not looking in a paved alley? I say, can we do a streetscape on that real quick? Isn't that an alley? An alley right behind you. Wet alley where it's off that see 29th alley. That's another street. That's an alley. That's an alley. That's what he's talking about. That's what he's talking about. He's that's he's calling that the alley. Yeah, that's that's now. Oh, okay. Thank you for the clarification. That's all I have to say. Okay.

All right. Thank you, ma'am. Everybody on the streetscape, cancel that, Mr. Chairman. Next person signed up. Miss Cheryl Lewis. Y'all together? Did you both sign up? Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Two words in one sound. Let's go.

Cheryl Lewis. 5124 Pine Trail Oak, Northport, Alabama 35473. And I'm Alolina Wilson, 5124 Penoke Trail, Northport, Alabama 3541. I mean 3 35473, I'm sorry. Now we we do have some questions because I do have a lot there and they were saying that they want to reszone 0.2 of my uh lot for this to happen. And so I have some questions about reszoning my property for this to happen. Okay. And that lot is right behind where he's trying to do. So every time y'all say put a car I don't think we're reszoning your lot

to make this happen. It said 2. It said 2 something. Yes it does. We're not reszoning yours. We shouldn't we should not be reszoning your property if somebody else is resoning propert. Acres located. So, we're reszoning Mr. Bearden's property. Yeah. So, y'all reszoning his property? Are he's requesting to reszone his property? Yes, ma'am. So, it's not going to take from our lot. No, ma'am. No, ma'am. It's just that's just the size of his lot. What you're reading is just the size of his lot that belongs to him, not you.

Okay. I think that's what the confusion is because it kind of sounded like he was taking um 2 of our lot which is behind him. So, every time y'all say he can drive or take from that lot. Oh, okay. You were being reszoned because your adjacent property owner. Oh, okay. Okay. Being not. I'm sorry. You're being notified. Not reszone. Okay. Okay. As long as it don't mess with our lot. Yeah. You're a change.

Yeah. Yes. But it is like it the park the the like the parking I don't see how the parking can happen there. Like some in the back. I I just don't see enough land there for it to happen. So that's why I said it kind of confuses us because when he says he can park in the back there's no back and then he wanted his park on property access and using that alleyway to get there. That's as long as we we it doesn't affect you guys at all. Okay. Everything stay the same. Okay. Cuz there's no alley. So I guess that's what the confusion is. That is an alley. It looks like it's paved but it's doesn't have a street name alley.

It's a nice alley. Yeah, there's a lot of confusion going. All right. Thank you. Thank you, ladies. Okay. Thank you. You anyone else care speak for or against? Need our staff to work on that language barrier. Yeah. All right. Uh Fisher, please come back up the So, at least you heard the people did sign up. So, now you have to formally ask for a continuence. I'd like to ask for a continuence. Fair enough. All right. Commission. Before us we have case Z0726, Mr. James Bearden asking for a continuence. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed. Eyes have it. Case continue.

All right. Next up, we have a preliminary plat that is S1226 BH Robinson consisting of two lots on approximately.5 acres located at 2803 and 2805 Herman Avenue. This was in conjunction with Z0426 Council District 1. This was continued from the March hearing. Just to remind you, last month you saw the resoning associated with this. That was Z426, SFR3 to SFR4. tonight where you're just looking at the subdivision. Um so just a little refresher, this is the lot today. It's vacant off of Herman Avenue north of 29th Street. You can see that um vacant lot. And here's what it looks like from the road today. Um to remind you, there were two homes here previously. The applicant wanted to reszone for the ability to be able to put back two homes pictured here um to today. Um now looking at the preliminary plat um you all recommended the resoning last month um as part of this. So they have the two lots here today with contours without no variance requests. We did not receive any public comments. Do you have any questions for staff?

So this was because we didn't have a quorum last month. Okay. Gotcha. This is because we didn't have the the six members to vote on the subdivision piece. Okay. Right. out of help for those who weren't here any u cases that we heard uh other let us let remind us what how we voted for those too if you don't mind right how recommended unanimously for approval the reasonzoning was yeah I think okay petitioner

Mr. Chairman, Members Commission, Chris Sintel, Sintel Engineering, 639 Black Bears Way. Uh like he they said this did a good job of explaining there were two houses there before. They were torn down and uh the developer wants to build two new houses, single family residentials. Answer your question. You weren't here, but we definitely liked what he showed us to build. Let's just hope he builds what he showed us. Yes. What did you say, Bill? I said he showed us what he was going to build. And I think we all unanimously like what we saw compared to what was there. I I do. And let's hope he builds what he showed us. Everything in my power. There you go.

But but we're still encouraging parking in the front yard. Any uh any questions? Uh Commissioner stepped away, but Mr. Rums, you have a comment? I I can't remember what it looked like. I'm sure it's great, but it it does show parking in the front yard again. Yes, it was parking in the front, man. And he's got all the backyard in the world, but no access, but have they already been built? I got it. If he hadn't built them yet, he'd drive right down the side and redraw. That's true. That's a fact.

I mean, if it hadn't been built, I mean, it would be requested. I mean the site plan framework it is conceptual at this time it's not held to the at least you got one house on a 52 foot wide lot so it's not too dry it's better than the last situation so all right u anyone care to speak for against this petition request all right have you heard none commission before us we have S226 the BH Robinson two lot subdivision all those in well I need to get a motion and a second motion Second, Mr. Ramsey. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next. Preliminary plat. This is S1326 STNL Harky Lane. Rervey of lot four Harky property phase 2 and unplatted land. This is one lot on approximately 1.37 acres located at and around 4730 Harky Lane last month. This is in conjunction with A0426 and Z0526 council district 3 and not in city limits continued from our previous hearing. So to remind you of those cases, we had an annexation of point4 acres, a reszoning from SFR1 to general commercial that was unanimously recommended last month. Tonight we're looking at a lot consolidation on this property. So just to remind you, we are near the intersection of Rice Mine and Old Colony. Um these are the four lots today. They are vacant. Um they'd like to consolidate them. You can see here um with the goal to build a vet clinic. Um that's why they annexed and reszoned a piece as part of this. Um you can see that plat with contours without no variance requests. We did not have any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff?

Ma'am, petitioner, the petitioner came down last month from Ohio and y'all didn't have any questions. So, he's not here tonight, but if you have any questions for us, we're happy to answer. Any questions of staff for this subdivision? Okay, having heard none. All right. Commissioner Force, we have S1326 STNL Harky Lane. Do I have a motion and a second? Motion to approve. Miss Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next up is S1526 reservey of lot three and four, old farmhouse subdivision. This is one lot on approximately 6.2 2 acres located south of 18441 John Swindle Road. This is not in city limits. This was continued from the March hearing. See, we are way north off of 43. See those two lots today are vacant. They'd like to remove that middle lot line, create one large lot. See that with contours without one variance request. We did not receive any written public comment. We did have someone come last month to the hearing. Do you have any questions for staff engineering on the variance request? No issues with that variance request. Thank you, sir. Petitioner.

Um, Mr. Chairman, members of board, I'm Michael Magcguire, Magguire and Associates. Um, she pretty much covered it. We're just removing that one interior light line. I think our client's going to build actually right on that line and that's it. Any questions for petitioner? Thank you. Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request? Having heard none commission before us, we have S1526 survey of lots 3 and four old farmhouse subdivision. Have a motion a second. Motion second with one car capsule engine with Mr. Rumsy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next up, another preliminary plat. This is S1626 Amber Drive addition to North Side. This is two lots on approximately 19 acres located at 11242 Amber Drive. This is not city limits. This is continued from the March hearing. See again way north on the lake here. Uh they have one lot today with an existing home and they'd like to split it into two lots. You can see here with contours. Um here's a plat without. We have four variance requests. We received one public comment um last month. We did not receive any additional public comment this month. Do you have any questions for staff engineering on the four variance request?

We're in agreement with those. Thanks sir. Petitioner Uh, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, Marty McGomery, McGomery for Land Surveying, 203 Hard Road East, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, representing the lenders in this uh, property division. uh they're just wanting to sell the house and uh re retain the 14 acres in the rear for personal use. Any questions for petitioner?

Thank you, sir. Did have someone sign up. Mr. Chairman, we had one person sign up in favor of Mr. Thomas Snder. Linder. Linder. I'm sorry. Linder. Mr. Linder. Lender. Tim, he signed up. Do you care to speak, Mr. Linder? Can I ask Mike a question? Can I ask Mike Gardner a question? You good? Okay. Mike Mike Gardner, what are they what do they need the uh variance for on the road front? Does a 30 not get it?

That serves that property today that the county recognizes Anyone care to speak for against this petition request? All right. Having heard none commission before us we have S1626 Amber Drive addition to north side four varian request engineering has no issues with. Have a motion and a second. So move second. Mr. Rumsy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Motion approved. All right, commission. Another preliminary plat. This is S1726 Martin Estates. This is a reservey of lots one R and two R Martin crossings consisting of 26 lots, two open space lots on approximately 38.2 acres. We're north of 85 Martin Road, west of 12860 Martin Spur Road, and east of 200 Martin Road. This is not in city limits. This is continued from the March hearing. You can see we are east of Highway 69 here. That lot today. Um both are vacant. Um and as a reminder, you've seen this one a couple times. We saw it December of 2025. It was denied. They came back for a waiver of rule 13. Um and now you can see um the submitted site plan um from last month. Excuse me. And now you can see that with contours without. Um now just zooming in so you can see some additional detail here. Starting at the north end um and moving south. We do have three variance requests. We received uh no public comment last month. Five public comments um in opposition this month. Do you have any questions for staff?

First engineering on the variance requests. We're in favor of granting those variances. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? petitioner.

Good evening, Commissioner. Robert Martin with Duncan Coker Associates representing Baker Property Group. I want to go over the um the changes we've made to the layout since our original submitt. Um we originally had a shared access drive in the southwest corner there serving three lots. there was some concern over the the maintenance and use of that driveway. So, we've eliminated the shared driveway and converted that that area to two estate lots which will have individual driveways. We've also increased the rear setback along the joining properties to 70 ft which is double the original of 35 ft. We um we did a traffic study. I'm going to hit the high points of the traffic study and we can go into as much depth as we want to, but there's currently 1,000 cars in the AM peak and 800 cars in the PM peak. We'll be adding 22 cars in the morning and 28 cars in the afternoon. So, that's roughly a 1% increase in the traffic along Martin Road. Um, traffic volumes indicated there's not sufficient for a turn lane in either direction. Um, and it it has acceptable levels of service in each direction. That's the high points of the traffic study. Um, I'm sure we can go into more detail if needed. Engine Baker does want to come up and say a few words, but if you have any questions for me, be happy to answer those. staff, did we get did y'all get a copy of that u report from traffic study?

Yes, sir. We did and I'm in agreement with it. Okay. All right, Mr. Beaker.

Good evening. Uh Beaker, 6500 Waterfront Drive. I'm a local developer here in Tuscaloosa and I appreciate the chance to come up and speak. Uh we had this project a few months ago and we took the feedback seriously and so we we implemented the changes, got rid of the flag lots. Uh we um we doubled the uh buffer on the meaningful sides on the Martin Road spur and we also um um what it uh so we we did the the flag lots did oh we did the traffic study. So uh we feel like this is a low density project. It's one to three acre residential lots. Uh it's going to be somewhere in the $450 to $550,000 range house. We feel like this fits the area well and we really look forward to to doing this project and would love your consideration and happy to answer any and all questions.

Thank you, sir. Okay. Um you coming back up or you good? Okay. All right. Anyone sign up for this? Anyone in the audience care speak for or against this petition request, please come forward. State your name and address for the record. Please.

Andrew Hamner. I live at 110 Martin Road. On the traffic study, we you said it didn't really matter last time, but I mean, we did it when there was no traffic on the road. And I was asking about the uh the sewer and that being a total flood zone. I mean, what what about the sewer systems down there? What about, you know, just cap sewer, septic tanks everywhere and it being a complete flood zone, you know, like it is. Um, the other question I had was, uh, did did they do anything on the entrance far as, um, is there any going to be any kind of turning lanes being it's in that turn right there and people coming around that turn? Did we do anything with that? Um,

I think I heard him say that the traffic study didn't warrant a necessarily having a turn lane. Correct. Is that what I heard, Mike? Yeah, it it so the traffic study the warrants for a left turn or a right turn were not they didn't meet the criteria. Okay, for for left turns or right turns. And as far as the the septic system, it's going to have to meet the county regs for them to install the septic system if they got water issues. Yeah, I knew the last the last two times we've tried this, they said it perked, but nothing was really perking like they wanted it to on, you know, 25. So, yes, sir. Thank y'all. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else care for or against? Having heard none, any final questions of this body to the staff are does the uh petitioner have any additional comments or want to make any comments on what was brought up? Yeah, I just I just want to clarify that we will each lot will have to perk and be permitted through the health department before the plat is recorded. So, there's an issue with that, we won't be able to plat the lots.

Thank you. Okay. Any Final questions this body to staff. Okay. All right. Having heard none, we'll close and we will take up case S1726, Martin Estates. Can you back up those varian requests, please? Uh, three varian requests, which engineering has no issues with. Do I have a motion and a second? Motion to approve. Second, Miss Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Motion approved. All right, commission. This is our last piece of unfinished business tonight. This is S1826, reservey of lot one, Skelton Corner in part of lot 2, Cleveland Farms. This is a reconfiguration of two lots on approximately 25.6 acres located at 12489 Hidden Falls Drive and 17539 and 17541 Wagon Trail Lane. This is not in city limits. This has continued from the March hearing. You can see again we're way north on Highway 43. You see the existing lots today. There's two lots here. They are reconfiguring those two lots. Um and just to clarify the change here, this is the new proposed lot line um in pink. Um so you can see that with contours without um and just zooming in on that change here.

We have four variance requests. Uh we did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff engineering? No issues with those varian requests.

Thank you. Petitioner Robert McFersonen, 42 4121 Vassie Drive, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, here on behalf of uh Joe Fred Skelton and Miss Ernest Smith. And uh their intention is she needed some more money and he's purchasing the land, the additional land. That's it. No changes to no excavations, no no new buildings or anything.

Couldn't clean those lot lines up a little bit. Do what? Couldn't clean those lot lines up a little bit. That's That's the most That's the craziest looking lot I think. Best we can do left. What a what a mess. I'm afraid so. It just It's a mess up in there. But I Oh my gosh. All right. Any questions for petitioner? Thank you, sir. Anyone care speak for against this petition request? Having heard none, commission before us, we have S1826, the reserve lot one, Skeleton Corner and part two of lot two, Cleveland Farms. We have some variance quest uh four which engineering has no issues with. Do have a motion and a second. Second Mr. Ramsey. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Moving into cases to be heard tonight. We're going to start with S 2926. This is the item on the consent agenda that was pulled off due to public comment. Um so this is call your row a reservey of part of lots 364 and 365 original survey of the city of Tuscaloosa consists oh consisting excuse me of five lots and one common space lot on approximately.7 acres located at 905 Almond Avenue. This is council district 4. You see we are downtown um south of the federal courthouse um on Almond Avenue. You can see the property today does have a remnant lot line on it in an existing home. Um this is the street view from Almond Avenue just to refresh your memory of of the house. Um proposing five lots here, four town home lots in a proposed common area in the back, keeping the existing home um on its own lot. You can see that without contours. Um here's the site plan. So this has already been before the Historic Preservation Commission. Um we'll just kind of look through that briefly tonight just to to give you an idea of what um the historic preservation commission saw. So um this is the design of the proposed town homes. Um this is it next to the existing home um and an angle um showing the rear access to the town homes. Um we do not have any variance requests. We received one public comment in support that had some requests of you all that was sent your way and then one comment in opposition to this request. Do you have any questions for staff

and it went through the which body? The Historic Preservation Commission. It was approved. Was approved. Okay. Correct. All right. Making sure. All right. Uh petitioner Good evening, commission. Jimmy Duncan with Duncan Coker Associates here tonight representing Crawford Crawford Nixon Construction Company. Uh Leotaa pretty much covered everything. No variance request. We've been through HPC a couple months ago.

Any questions for the petitioner? Thank you. Thank you. No one sign up. Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request? Okay. All right. Having heard none which was on the consent agenda, can we take a yay or nay vote on it? Since this item was on consent agenda, um all those in favor say I. I. Those opposed eyes have.

All right. Next up, we have a resoning petition. This is Z0826 Longleaf Engineering petitions to reszone approximately 1.25 acres. Um this is west of Laa Drive at 2093 Veterans Memorial Parkway. Um and the request reszoning is from SFR1 to GC General Commercial. This is Council District 6. So you can see we are east of Home Depot and Target, south of Veterans Memorial Parkway. That lot today is vacant. Um, now just to align with the site plan, we're looking north is to our left here, just to clarify. Um, you can see that existing zoning. It's SFR1, Single Family Residential One. Um, here's a photo looking into the lot from Laa Drive. Um, and then this is on the north side of Veterans Memorial Parkway looking um towards the property. Um they'd like to reszone from SFR1 to GC to build a contractor's office and small retail associated with this use. Here's a conceptual site plan that you all saw in the packets. Um we got a new a new version um an updated version here um after packets were posted as well as some elevations for what this could look like. Um in framework this is identified as limited commercial. Um this request does conform as well as the use and you can see that future land use character identified here. Here are permitted uses and GC. Looking through these um we did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff? Well, thank you petitioner Good evening. Tom Sams with Longleaf Engineering on behalf of uh developer

Clay Smith. Uh this is pretty straightforward uh request uh general commercial front and veterans here. It's uh surrounded mostly on commercial uh on either side of it and across the street. So, um, he just has in mind to try to develop a a sort of a retail establishment with some storage, uh, that's associated with it. He's in some discussions with some potential tenants. Hadn't wrapped that up yet, but that's the plan. Back at the drawing, you see the photograph into the property again. And

after that, show the rendering again, please. Is that level? Yes, ma'am. For the most part. Is it? Yes, ma'am.

Thank you. Any questions for petitioner? Thank you. Anyone care speak for against this petition request? Okay. Okay, having heard none commission before us we have Z0826 long leaf petitions to reszone the uh 290 20 93 Veterans Mor Parkway from SFR1 to GC. Do I have a motion in a second? Second, Miss Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Motion approved. All right, commission. Next up, we have a companion case. This is Riverbin Ranch subdivision. Um, five parts here. We have an annexation, three reszoning requests, and a subdivision. So, overall, we're looking at 5.5 acres. We are at and around 4178 and 4202 Rice Mine Road Northeast. Um, beginning with the annexation piece, um, we're annexing, excuse me, they're requesting to annex here 1.05 acres. Um, you can see the overall site here. So, this is the whole 5.5 acres um, on Rice Mine. See, there are some existing homes. Um, they've been doing a lot of clearing work in the last couple weeks here. Um, this is a few weeks old. I know the the land's been further cleared at this point, but this is looking from Rice Mine Road. Um, and overall um their request is this site plan here. Um, conceptual site plan of multif family in the rear and two commercial lots fronting rice mine. So, with that, now getting into the annexation. This is the piece requesting to be annexed into city limits. You can see that property be annexed in the blue hatch. um city limits in yellow. They'd like to annex it in for this multif family and commercial subdivision. Uh that piece is in the primary expansion area. And here are department comments on the annexation. All right, moving into the resonings now. So going to go through these all at once. I think it'll be a little clearer, but we're looking at 2.5 acres going from general commercial GC to MFR multif family residential. Another 1.1 acres going from SFR1 uh single family

residential one to multif family residential MFR. And then lastly 0.04 acres uh requesting to go from SFR1 uh to general commercial GC. So these are all those pieces um highlighted here. Um you can see that existing zoning um on the property. Um again they're requesting this reszoning to match the site plan and the preliminary plat for this proposed development. You can see that here. So lot three being that multif family apartments, lots one and two being commercial lots. And these are all the pieces they're requesting to reszone. So, I think this makes it a little more clear. Um, kind of that orange color is GC to MFR. That red piece is SFR1 to GC and the yellow SFR1 to MFR um to match the site plan. Um here's a rendering um drawing rather of the proposed apartments here and again the site plan showing um all three lots in framework. This property is identified as limited commercial. Um this request does conform to the plan as well as the use um small multif family residential is identified as a secondary use in this um future land use character. You can see that identified here getting into our permitted uses. So first this is um in multif family residential MFR and then moving into GC general commercial. clicking through those here. Um, we received six comments in opposition to this request. Do you have any questions for staff?

Can we go back to the very first picture of the I guess the clearing of the lot? Have a question about what I saw. Okay. Right there to the left of that driveway. Is that the Gainwood subdivision? And am I seeing is that the rooftops over there? Yeah. So approximately here. Yeah, right there. Yep. To the left. So those are so basically the rooftops are about level with the development site.

I think it's further to the it's the next tree line is where the gains will where that it's right at the edge of the pictures were. Can you pull up the site plan? And so this is Gaineswood along this this side. So that that's right there where we're looking that line of tree small trees and the rooftops we were looking at. Right. Right. Okay. That's So this here is that driveway that you're seeing in the image. That's the one that's being taken out. Right. That's that's the one that exists today in that image. So you can get a a feel for where that property line is. But but to your point, was that a was that a power line easement going down through there? Is that

I didn't see. Now, can you go back one more time? It just wasn't showing. Are those Is that an power line ement or is that Are those power lines? Is it just on my screen? Is it I think the petitioner might be able to answer that when it comes up. Several of them. You follow what I'm looking at? Yeah. Uh, petitioner.

Good evening, commission. Uh, Chris Crawford with TTL 3200 Rice Mine Road, Tuscos, Alabama, 35406. Uh, do you want me just to directly answer the question or I do because I know that in the in the past we had a lot of people from Gaineswood had concerns about you know closest to their properties to the future developments that never happened but this is close to it and you know want to kind of get understanding of the elevation of where Gaineswood is to where your project's going to

sure be. So, like we mentioned there, I guess that first drive is the very southern part of this property. Um, this development is obviously the the three lot subdivision is what we're asking for. Um, yeah, as shown there. Uh, you'll have the two commercial. This commercial is already zoned on the front right now. So, we're not asking for anything different there. But then the multif family on the back um was requested. There is a 75 ft offset though from the property line uh to provide that buffer for the building. Uh in addition to that, we're also putting in a 20 foot landscape buffer um to help shield some of that. And Mr. Ramsey, I don't believe that's a power line easement. I think that was just a service that was to the previous house that was there.

So your 20 foot buffer, landscape buffer. Okay. before we will see the first parking spot. Correct. Yes. And then you can see there's a dimension there on the back part of that parking right there. It shows a 75 ft uh to the building. I guess you got several spots that parking spots that would be parking facing the Gaineswood facing the landscape buffer for sure. Okay. And Gaineswood. Yes. But there's a you're showing a retaining wall in front of

There is a retaining wall there. We we have not gotten very far in any kind of design. Uh this property definitely slopes. So on that initial picture you see it goes up. You can kind of see we're obviously want to take that down to balance the site as much as we can and keep that wall as low as possible. I'm sorry. Where's the retaining raw? The dark bold line at the bottom raven and it kind of goes up and and turns. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm leaving. Sorry. I don't have a pointer up here. No, we got it. Chris, you got it. We got it. Chris, that is a ret retaining wall and not a buffer wall. Correct. It's a retaining wall for the dirt. It is a retaining wall. It will have um you know fence

and you'll have what's So then you'll have a buffer your landscape buffer beyond that. Correct. And what did you just say about a fence? Fence on top of the retaining wall as well as just additional Are you higher? Are you higher than Gaineswood? Yes. Yes. Most of this site's a little higher than Gaineswood. this. Well, what what I if I'm remembering correctly, one of the oppositions from Gaineswood to the earlier proposal was that there were houses all along there that would be looking down into basically their yards and there's no longer any this proposal doesn't have it.

Well, and and with this this is a smaller scale, you know, trying to be upscale residential as well. It's it's only the three floors. So, it's a lot less than I think some of the neighboring property that's that's zoned MF 2 right now. That's maybe five stories. So, this is a lot smaller. That's right. Thank you.

Any other questions for petitioner? Thank you. Thank you. All right. Do we have anybody? Yes, Mr. Chairman. We have two people signed up. The first one is Ian Kazaya. All well the um public comments coming up. I apologize. I forgot to click through the preliminary plat but really it just follows the site plan. You can see it with contours without one variant request here. So I got a little ahead of myself ending but just want to make sure we got that on the record. Let me ask real quick engineering on the lock configuration. engineering doesn't have an issue with that. Thank you, sir. Okay.

Uh Jan Kazay, uh I'm the HOA president for Gaineswood. I live at 1873 Gaineswood uh Drive. Uh a couple things about this project and a prior project. Seven years ago, we had Cedarbrook uh putting in apartments just west. Actually, they border this property. and we had some of the same issues that we'll have with this property along our lot line. U and you were correct in what you were saying about all pretty much most of that the line that'll be the south line of this project be uh will be higher than Gaineswood uh and especially up there in that corner next to the road. those those uh uh that area right there is right at the roof line of those houses in there. One other issue we've had and it's and I've talked to Mr. Palmer. He's been out and talked with me and he came to our HOA meeting and talked to us about this project. And um one of the big issues right there in that corner next to Rice Mine Road is we got three or four lots right there that have a lot of water issues that we've apparently been getting a lot of water off the top. Mr. gardeners very familiar with that because the city came out and actually put some French drains in there behind some of the uh sidewalks to try to relieve some of the water because at one time we had water actually coming up under the pavement coming into the lots on the across the street. So it has helped some what they they've done they kind of relieve some of the water from those lots after it rains. when it rains, those lots are are pretty well saturated in there and and some of the residents have put their own little drains in trying to get relieve some of that water. But and talking to Mr. Palmer, that was one of the major issues

that we got to make sure we take care of on this project, whatever they do up there. And that buffer zone is a big big to-do. I for me, I don't think 20 foot up there is enough. We had we got those apartments before we actually when they got approved they had a 50 foot buffer on them and they weren't going to build any aart um buildings within 100 ft of our line. So as you can see here that's going to be a lot closer. Uh also uh the lady mentioned that these were apartments. Now, we've been led to believe all these were going to be condominiums coming in up there and uh uh so, you know, we're not we're not real happy about apartments being being there with all the traffic involved. Condominiums is a different animal. You don't have as many much density there. So, if if you're going to reszone this property that they can build apartments there, we would definitely be opposed to that. we would be more in favor of a zoning that we could put a lower density in on that property. Uh it's already zoned as what general commercial I believe it is and the property to the west is uh MR2 I believe it is. What's the difference between the density on those two? If you go

So there is no max density on MR2. There is no what? maximum density on MR2. It's just the the way that the site has to be configured and everything like that that dictates the density. So on this property, what would the maximum density be? 22 22 units per acre. So you're talking about with what he's explained to us, you're going to have commercial lots on the front. So you'll have about three acres there. So you'll be able to put what or actually close to four acres. You'll be able to put about 80 units up there. Is that correct? He's showing 52.

I know is what he's showing, but he's told us a lot of things and and he's he's actually communicated with us, but he's been very unclear as to what they're actually going to do up there. Actually, even that drawing there he took to our HOA meeting and said that well, we're not really sure exactly how we're going to do that. But our main thing is is our visibility into uh Gaineswood, which is going to be lighting and the water issues. And then of course, we've always got traffic issues up there on Rice Mine Road. And I know we built Matt Rice Fairy Road, but people are coming in off of the off of 69, cutting through Old Colony Road, coming down. There's a huge de development going in Old Colony Road. They're building up Rice Mine Road. So the the traffic's I mean yeah it's better right now but in a few years it's not going to be be much better. So uh but that's our concerns and I'm not sure you know we can work through this but but engineering wise and and the and how we have buffers up there it's going to be very important to us.

Thank you Mr. Kar. We'll hopefully let those guys address that for you. Okay, chairman. Next person we have signed up is Lou Dan Dan King. Dun Dan King.

While he's coming up, just to clarify the it's going to be a multif family product. Of course, they could condo that in the future as well. Understand? Name and address for the record, but vice chairman couldn't make it name out. So, name is Lewis Dilla. Dilla.

Dilla. Yes. Um 1900 um Gaineswood Place. Um, I moved to Gaineswood um, 7 years ago from Atlanta and um, moved into this area because it was a nice tranquil township, small town growing into a big city. Um, what I see here is is in a way good, but it's not clear as to what exactly their intentions are for density. the number of homes or number of of condos, town homes. I had the impression that these were going to be town homes, uh condos, which would have um square footage um that would um dictate the uh price of homes in the area. Um so that would increase our value. Um, I was concerned about that. But, um, the other was that the parking where it's located is right on the back side of my fence. Um, it's it's going to provide um for uh less security from Rice Mine Road. people driving in, parking in temporarily, maybe jumping the fence, that sort of thing. It's just not going to be a secure environment. I would prefer having that parking lot on the north side. Uh, leaving more green space between their between their condos and or town homes. I'm not going to say apartments anymore because that's not what we want.

Um but moving that parking lot to the north side. Uh everything else is is okay with me. Thank you. Thank you sir. Mr. Chairman we had signed up. All right. Commissioner, would you care to address what you might have heard and want to clarify?

Certainly. Uh I made a note on drainage. Uh certainly we want to address the drainage will be required per the LDP. uh to meet this previous development. Uh so there will be no additional drainage created off this project. Um this is actually kind of limited I think by the parking that you can fit in this site for density. So what we're proposing is pretty much maxing this out. Uh I don't think that we could do much more there. Uh lighting uh is is going to be designed to be projected downward. Uh so it wouldn't be ambient lighting that would be out anywhere and unfiltered. um traffic, you know, there there will be additional traffic. I mean, there's nothing here today. This is just a really nice infield development. Um so, there will be additional traffic, but hopefully with uh as they mentioned in the Rights Ferry that took some traffic off of this road, uh we can stand to get this in here and and have a nice development uh for this area. Uh as far as buffer, uh again, I think we're providing a little bit more than what's required now. then we probably go to 10 on that. But uh there could be additional landscape on top of the retaining wall section as well uh in that green space by the parking to prevent lights and headlights and things like that shining through. Anything else? Well, that was one of the questions that I originally was asking about the rooftops and where this the parking was going to sit. And again, I know your your parking lot lighting will be directional down. I don't think that's an issue. But you've obviously got some plans to handling forward parking cars that that'll be screened by your buffer

be whether it be the wall or whether it be the vegetation. Right. I think that was we hear that a lot of adjoining property owners with any kind of development like this. So we just want to make sure that they're clear that they're going to have that protection built in this project. Yes, Chris. The actual the actual fence I guess it's it's a fence behind the landscaping on the on the property line. What what will it be? That's existing fence up there. That's existing fence up there. That's the existing What is that? Fence. Yeah, wooden fence. Six foot.

And so what you're proposing So what you're telling me you're proposing is putting putting landscaping adjacent to that barrier and then some intermittent landscaping on the other side of the retaining wall. That's correct. the the diffuse, the lighting issues. That's right. Okay. Is anything stopping you from flip-flopping it from a design standpoint? I'm just curious. I mean, you know, they mentioned they'd rather have the parking on the other end. I didn't know if is it is it even feasible to flip-flop it? I'm not asking to. I'm just curious.

So, the neighborhood compatibility of the 75 ft might be one restriction that they would have. You have to be 75 ft away from a neighborhood in order to build the three stories that they're proposing. Okay. The lower entrance where the parking lot is, that's a ride in right out. Correct. Yes. Correct. So you'll just get traffic coming from like Snow Well from Spillway in. You won't get it coming in. So it's going to cut the traffic in out in half at that entrance. Yes. And and they can still access through the middle of the commercial lots as well.

So So somebody on Rice Mine goes up has to go up to and and take the street that's dissecting the two commercial lights. Is that right? Say that again. Or if you're entering this project, you don't enter on the Yeah. Or let's say you're going north. Um, you still take a left on that street, right? Correct. The one that bisects

Yeah. That's going to be the northbound traffic. That'll be their only access to the residential component if you're headed northbound. the that is a right in and a right out and dictated mainly because there's not the ability to create any left turn movement outside of the travel lanes with the entrance where they have it. Any other questions or petitioner?

How many square How many square feet are the units? 12,200 1,200 1250 per unit. 1,200 1250 per unit. These are designed to be exactly like the first in Maine on downtown. Three bedrooms. Any other questions for petitioner? Thanks, sir. Thank you.

All right, we'll close to public comment. Any comments or questions of this body, to staff, or to each other? on I guess you'd have to build as shown, right? I mean, or does someone shows is I know that what do we call it a pud before or someone exhibits a building drawing like this in a certain number of units. Are they tied to that? I guess is really what the HOA is at. Is that what that's kind of the

I kind of got the sense that they wanted some, you know, defined parameters based on the zoning. Is that Well, I would think this is obviously the max of what they can build. Excuse me. Um, we do have one more gentleman who'd like to to provide public comment. He didn't hear the announcement. Is that okay if he comes up? I think we still had two slots available. Few minutes. I'm going to address the record.

Hi there. My name is Andrew Nubbie. I live at 2227 Brandon Parkway. Um, I'm not vehematly opposed to what's going on on the other side of the street, but I do know as somebody who moved here from out of town 7 months ago that it takes me from 7 to 9 minutes to turn left out of my neighborhood onto Rice Pine Road to get over the bridge to get to work. Um, so I'm not sure if one, this is going to be a gated community for entry and access. Two, if there's going to be any kind of street light, uh, traffic lights that are going to be coming in there. Um, but has there been a traffic study about what's going on? Because everybody talks about Mac Rides Ferry being open and that's fabulous, but I mean, it's great for him because he gets to turn right in the morning, but then he's got to turn left in the evening and I'm the exact opposite. So, I'm not opposed to, you know, especially if somebody wants to open a hardware store, that would be great in that area.

You're have you're having to wait 7 to n minutes to turn left. Oh, yeah. Because it's I've got a barrier in between entry and exit. There's like grass. So, cars back up and Brandon Place waiting for us to get out because you've got folks because it's only one side. There's no turn lane turning left or right. So, if somebody's trying to turn right going north on Rice Mine and they're behind four people trying to turn left, clear your schedule because it's it's not going to get any better. And that I know is like a tertiary issue. Nobody's looking into my property because I'm across the street, but there's going to be more traffic because if we've got, you know, as many residents,

I'm on Rice Mine also and I've watched my turnout increase, but 7 to 9 minutes is a long time. Yeah. Well, if everybody's leaving to get because I'm looking at my watch and I'm only two minutes and I feel like it's eternity. Yeah, I can do a video for you. But that's my comment. No, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying you're not telling the truth. I'm just saying that I had never been up there in the morning. I've heard about

Clear your schedule if you show up at my house. I got five kids, too. It's a good time. But, um, that's two minutes. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Mike, there this project didn't require a traffic study. Obviously, I don't think I heard any need for one.

We've we have not asked for a traffic study. Um, you know, I understand the concerns, but the kind of very similar to Martin Estates, you know, we have a a fairly large traffic number on this road, and this this increase is going to be a a small percentage. Just for the record, how you had to put a number on it. What what percentage of we lost on that road when the act the opening of Mc Rice Ferry? Do you think it took a lot of pressure off? I know it's still bad up there, I'm sure, but

so the people that I know that that still use Rice Mine say it's a tremendous improvement. So MC Rights is getting utilized. Um, you know, I don't know where this gentleman's headed, but if it's taken him seven minutes to get out of his neighborhood, you know, and and I understand about the right turn if you want to leave and turn go north, and I made a note of that for us to consider if there's something that we might could look into, but you would spend less time doing a loop getting to Mcrits than you would be trying to struggle just to turn left into that queue of traffic in the mornings. That that's a fight for another day, another that's a fight for another day, another conversation. But I mean that's that's a branding place issue sounds like to me. But

but but I mean I hear you. You're saying it'd be you'd better write turn right and go up there and do a U-turn. Well, if you're if you're headed to Jack Warner Parkway or headed to downtown, it seemed to make sense. Yeah. I mean, I'd rather be driving than sitting. Well, that's again that's a different day to the fight. Um, where were we? Any any final questions for staff? I think we've I don't know if there's anything that brought up that really. Todd, are you going to condom them or you just going to rent them? M. Palmer, I need to come come to the microphone and say that on the record so we can pick it up, please. Ty Palmer. Good evening. Yeah. So, you're

I would even hear you walking up. Just just Yeah. just clarify what you said out there what we did at Pinnacle Park for sale for rent. So, so to clarify for the the code's the same for the two products and he can do either he but he's saying for the record he's going to sell which is condom he said sell or rent essentially. Yeah, but you'll you'll you'll rent them until you sell them which is what we Yeah. Right. I guess and and the water issue that is very important to them. I think we solve that easily

and and it's just it's just been a natural flow for years and when that goes flat it won't flow. Let's hope I think you're right, but let's hope. You know, I But we know nothing else, you're not going to put any more water on them. No, no, I think the water is I think it goes away. And then one other point, the dirt you're seeing from rice mine, that all gets pushed back. So that'll get flattened out. Thank you. Thank you. If you can stop them from having any headlights in their in their house, you get we it does get lower as you go back. So it it doesn't it's not as high as it looks from the road as you access the back. You can just see the contour how it's starting to fall off.

Thank you. All right. Again, commission. Any questions for staff or comments before we tackle this case? All right. Haven't heard none. Bring up our five items, please, in order. We'll tackle the annexation first. Again, we have a partial that is in the county commission for annexation 0526. We're annexing 1.05 05 acres. All those in favor say I.

I. Those opposed. Eyes have it. That parcel is now in the city. Okay. So, we have three separate zoning requests. Well, again, each one will be voted on separately. Z70926, that's the 2.5 acres. We're going to take it from GC to MFR. Do I have a motion and a second? Second, Mr. Ramsey. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Jeff. Yes. That motion's approved.

Z 1026. We're reszoning 1.1 acres from SFR1 to MFR. Do have a motion and a second. Second, Miss Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved. Commission Z 1126.04 acres from SFR1 to GC. Do I have a motion and a second? So moved. Second, Mr. Rumsy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved. Uh back to now we have the subdivision 1926 Riverbin Ranch subdivision

motion variance request of lot configuration engineering has no issues with have a motion and a second motion Mr. Mr. Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved. All right. Commission. Moving into our second companion case tonight. This is 4B Spectrum. Um this is a reszoning and subdivision Z1226 S2026. We're looking at 0.58 acres located at 620 through 634 25th Avenue East. And maybe I should pause. Let

I think you're good to go. Pretty quiet.

Um we're on 25th Avenue East. The reasonzonings from SFR4 to MR2. Um and then we're looking at a seven lot subdivision. Um we are in Council District 5. You can see we are just north of University Boulevard East um east of the tennis center. Um you see those lots today. They are vacant. Um, and you can see that existing zoning of SFR4. Um, applicants requesting to reszone from SFR4 to MR2 to allow for six town homes and one duplex with two units. Um, eight units total. Here is um a photo of the site. This is taken from Alberta Parkway. And here's that um conceptual site plan. So you can see the six town homes fronting Alberta Parkway and then that duplex on lot 7 um fronting 25th Avenue East in framework. This is identified as traditional neighborhood core. This request and use um both conform to framework. You can see that future land use character identified here. Um here are permitted uses in MR2. And we can see in their existing zoning SFR4 um these same uses are allowed. Um just for some added context on this one might be easier to explain with the site plan. Um if in SFR4 their existing zoning they have enough density to allow for eight town home units. Um however our zoning ordinance we define a townhouse as three or more units. So having this up here um is a duplex according to us. It has a different density requirement and that's why they're asking to reszone um because they aren't hitting it in their existing zoning. Um so moving through here um into the subdivision now. So seven lots. I'm really matching the site plan. You can see here um those seven lots with

contours without two variance requests um both for rideaway dedication. and I split them up here because I know engineering has some comments. We did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff? Mike, on the variance request, I know that your hope was the alley. Did we ever

So the I'm okay with the rideway dedication on 25th Avenue East. That there was additional rideway purchased several years ago when 25th was improved. uh the dedication of the additional rideway on the alley. The developer has two options. He can either dedicate additional rideway for his proportional half of a 20ft alley or he can vacate the portion of the alley since it's it's never been, you know, improved. But we've pretty much established a standard with developments along alleys that are less than 20 ft wide that we get the dedication as a part of the subdivision. So I'll let the I'll let the petitioner address that, but I'm not in favor of waving the de the the the dedication of the alley width. So, in reality, you'd like for someone, whether it be this petitioner, in conjunction with an adjoining property owner,

and it doesn't even have to uh engage the adjoining property owner. That that would be my preference to vacate all of the alley, but there have been instances where we vacate part of an alley, and he can he could vacate his his share of that existing alley. But that actually gives him more land to deal with, right? It does. Yes, sir. gives you more flexibility to for a better product. I would think that's right. Okay, petitioner.

Show us that. Everybody's going over where that alley is. Show us that parcel that shows the the drawing that shows the Can you draw Can you draw it with a colored pencil somewhere? Show us that. Is it here? You want me to draw it or them to draw next to property one? This is the alley. Yeah.

After the survey, the the alleys doesn't match the width on the plaque, but that was we we recovered the monument. So, um it the neighbor encroaches onto the alley. I'm not opposed to vacation to the alley at all. Um I am Am I Are we allowed to vacate half a half a rideway? I mean, I'm I mean, it gives me more land. I I just The only reason we don't want to give up right away to do the alley. It's not improved. It never has been improved and it's been that way for a century. So, we don't we lose a lot of density that strip. So, I mean, I'm not opposed to applying for a vacation right away.

It gives you more I mean, absolutely. And then and the developers for that, too. So, we just I had already submitted this and I If we if we can put that on the record that that that's going to happen. Can we can we put that on record and and proceed because I'll be obviously gives me make that part of the motion when we Okay. Yeah. Thank you for that. And I'll go on record as saying that I won't approve a land development permit until the dedication has been fully completed. It's a fairly lengthy process. Uh it's got to be advertised and heard by city council. So on on most folk on vacations now, you have two adjoining property owners.

No, you can vacate just your portion. But but the other Why would they not want to go ahead and try to get all of it? I won't make every effort. They don't have to. But they don't have to. They probably would, though. They get free land, too. I mean, unless the other wasn't the other side vacated already. Definitely need to be. It appears that it it may have tried to be, but I don't think it was. So basically you got 20 feet sitting there, right? Is it 20 by 20 feet? I hear right. Yeah, we'll we'll I'll start that process tomorrow. I think I think that would be candidate city doesn't want to maintain that. You get more property. Yeah, absolutely. No, we will. That's what it is. So yeah, I agree. Why not grab it? I think we got people that want to speak.

We'll we'll tackle that on we do our motion. You don't have to explain it to them because when somebody comes offering them free land, they're not going to believe. It's not going to be free, is it? Will it be free? Well, it is mostly free. I mean, it's it's it's a value based on the joining properties. If there's a house there, that affects it. But that I don't think Have you charged anybody for it? That's more of a legal question for OCA. I know that they're uh obligated to pay the advertisement costs uh for advert publishing the vacation and and um you know legal notice and there is generally some value uh established for the property you know for but it's going to be based on what on earth

they get it for free I want to come back and ask for a refund then you know the process I know the process well weaver got you and weaver you and weaver got rich in that are there Yeah, we have I'll start that tomorrow. I I'll start that process. Any other questions on the development? Yes. Can we can we go back to the uh the rendering of it? The one before this one? Okay. So, all of the parking is in the rear. Yeah, we have a a dumpster and all the parking is in the rear and we're allowed, according to city staff, the three spaces along Alberta Parkway. We can use those, too.

You say there was a dumpster. Yeah, we we have to he's have to dumpster. Just must be invisible. I don't see it. Where were the dunk? Where' you put the dumpster, Mr. Rosie? Where would I? Straight ahead. Looks like Well, there's only six units. I'd probably get the city to pick it up. Is that where it's going to be? Is that where you That That's where we're going to propose to put it once we do the site development. Okay. Up there. I mean, you know, because a dump a garbage truck is going to run up the parking lot six years. I mean,

or I mean, we got I made sure I got my subsurface condition, my subsurface. Any direct questions for the petitioner? So, is there a buffer buffer requirements um on the side of the property where the houses currently exist? There's not with this type of development. Okay. Because it's town it's residential adjacent to residential. But if he gets that property, he'll There's your

Yeah, I'll have the I'll have the buffer. But, you know, we he he's uh a well-known developer in Alberta City and he puts solid wood fences up along his B boundaries on each development. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you. We have someone sign up. Mr. Chairman had one person sign up. Flora Thomas

again. Name and address for the record, please, for both of you ladies. My name is Flora Thomas. I live at 2400 Alberta Parkway. My name is Jacqueline Anderson and I live at 2426 Alberta Parkway. You want to go first? I'm listening at about a alley. It was an alley origin. If if if you put that uh those houses back up again, I can show you where the alley was at when Habitat first built those houses out there. And it's not another alley over there now. So, I'm trying to figure out now what is the alley they talking about. Can you highlight that?

Originally built over there. Our backyard was in that alley. We're calling it an alley because that's what everybody calls land city owns or road between parcels. You can see it right there. It I guess it had been alley with the 25th Avenue side, but obviously was never used. It was It hasn't been used in a while. You see off of 25th Avenue. See how See that little pink line they just drawn there? See the pink line? That's the alley. East. That's That's what we're calling the alley. It's just It's city- owned property right now. Was it ever improved? Doesn't look like it. I don't know if it ever It's never been improved. It's always just been

grass property because the city gave that property to the homeowners. They gave half of that alley to each homeowner each homeowner that lives there. And so that and that's what I was asking about. I didn't mean to stop them from speaking, but that's what I was asking about. I thought I recalled something like this coming before the city council not long ago. It's already been given way to us to the unless I'm mistaken. Unless it's another part or was it the alley behind those houses or maybe it wasn't this particular it's the ones behind the houses. You're saying it's already happened. That that's already been taken care of. The alley between Sixth Street East Parkway has already So this this so

this is the other side other side. See that little pink line there? That's a that's a city-owned property right now. The alley I think you're talking about it was in the backyard basically between those houses between the yards. Backyard. It's running. Habitat house and her house sit on the corner. Yeah. No. Look. You see the new pink line? I believe that's where the alley you're talking about is that that was vacated. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So, yeah, that's that's that's been taken care of. That's not part of this. So this is as far Can you put that uh can you put that back up of those h homes that's in that breaking lot that's sitting on u

the diagram where the home the home lot the lot they trying to the lot that they they trying to occur the lot you had a lot up there a vacant lot laying on it the street view grass on it that one there. Right there. Okay. Now, where you all talking about the city on what piece of land? It's hard. So, back where that black car there as you see. Straight down. See that car right there between those two trees? It's probably like right back there. There you go. Okay. That run straight up by my lane then. It might run next to the side of it.

Okay. That's the only side of my property. But we're talking about the we're talking about vacating is only the parcel right on this. Mike, pull back up the site again. The part the part of that alley they're talking about vacating for this project is whenever it's only going to go to that end of that property line. Correct, Mike? Can you can you show me where that's going to end? He's not vac. He's not purchasing. He's going to bake from right there on down. That's all the alley that we're talking about. vacating to the property owners. What do you mean by vacate to the property? The city owns it right now. And what you going to do? Give that to them.

Give half and half. Half to one side, half to the other. So Anderson lot 18 there, they had the the the right half of that whatever that distance is between the property lines. Well, they on 18. I'm understanding that. Okay. So property owner 18 has the legal right to want to buy that half of that Allen. This property owner has the right to have the option to buy the other half. Now 18 might not want it and that gives this property to buy all of it and vice versa. So it's just a little sliver of land that these two property owners have the option right whatever to ask to be vacated and they'll buy it. But only they have it meaning. Huh?

You talking about me then, right? Are you you on 18? You on lot 18? I'm I'm right there in that that split of that land. Where are you? Show me Show me. That's you right there. That's you, Miss Anderson. 2426. Okay. So, you right there. You have the ability to to to purchase half of that alleyway. I think where you're talking about right there, it's a drop off. See that land right there? Actually, when we build those houses, a habitat coming down that that uh seven street,

that land got a sidewalk elevate that goes down like that. So, the water is running from 24 to 25th when it rain all the way down there. So, that land actually is a flood zone over there. So, where is all that water going to go to? So, well, they're not going to when they build this development, they're going to manage they're going to be required to manage their water. Mhm. They cannot dispense water on you. I'm not worried about dispensing on me cuz it's not dispensing on me now. You're just standing. Well, they'll have to handle that. They'll drain it. Yeah, they'll maintain it. They'll maintain it. They'll handle that water.

You just got to you got to get with this petitioner over here and if if you have an interest in in you two guys getting together and and buying that from the city, then work it out and they can work with the city. If you don't want to buy it, then the other property, the guy that's doing this project, he can buy all of it. Okay, I hear what you're saying. So, y'all need to you y'all need to talk to each other and say, "Do you want to buy whatever it is?" I I still haven't got an answer on what the width of this alley is. Let's just say it's 20 feet wide. Do you have the ability to buy 10 feet? I understand. You get 10 more feet and he has his 10 feet. Then you'll have a property line. Gotcha. Okay. Understand? But now they're talking about building some town houses on the on 25th Avenue right there.

Mhm. Right. That that kind of complicates our neighborhood. That's a neighborhood that's sitting there. Now you f to put apartments there. So now what look like what happened to me is they would put some homes there. This be town homes accommodate what's already that's there. These are town homes. They're not apartments. when they when they get through, they going to look just like apartments. They going to be up and down. They can be they can be town homes or they can be condos. Either way it go, it's not going to be the same thing that we already got built there. We got we got family homes built there. He had he based on the zoning he has. You go on down the road there. It's all the way down the road is family home. Well, based on the zoning, he can do this project.

If you wanted if you wanted to build a two-story house on your lot, you could too. So, sir, if you wanted to build a twotory on your lot, you could, too. You have the same right. I mean you have you have the right to ask for the same right I should say. In other words if you want why are you reszoning this area for town home if he can already do it?

He can build the town homes already in the zoning district that exists today. He just can't he can build eight units, eight town home units. It's just he can't get the configuration correct. to make it to where this has three instead of two. We classify this as a duplex and these as town homes. And the density is different. And so he's requesting to basically build eight units on this property, one of them being a duplex and one of them being six town homes. If he didn't reszone, he could still build those six town homes. Um, so it's not changing the fact that town homes can go on this property.

So they're two level. Is it one level town homes? Is it two or three levels or what? What is it? That would be the being told it's a two level. Two levels. That's going to be that's going to be elevated up. Mhm. So the up part could look down on ours on our homes. You can look down the park. They're going to look down the parking lot. You can see how they're they're laid out there. That's they're all going to face out the parkway. They may have windows on the end. The parking lot. Are they in the front of them or the back of them? Parking lots in the back. Is in the rear? In the back. No parking out front.

So, if that's still the case, they're going to be elevated up and our homes are sitting down. Parking lot won't be elevated up. The houses parking lot will be elevated. Well, the home will be elevated upward. He can build the second floor, though. I don't I don't think I mean, you can build a two-story house like Mr. Ramsey said, but the the any any windows you're seeing there are going to be looking into the parking lot. They won't be looking back into you or on the side. You'll have you might have some windows on this one on unit one, but that's the only one that would have that might even look into your property. Do they? So, do they do they have Okay. What

do they have? West West Windows. We don't have any we don't have any elevations beyond it. We have no elevations yet. I I'll say this. This this developer has built quite a bit in the Alberta area. He's probably the only person that's been building in Alberta area. Um and we got no problem with him building in our area. No, we wanted to accommodate what we already have in our area. We not saying don't build in our area. And I would encourage you all to speak with the petitioner and the developer so that you'll know um because I know what it's like to have development taking place next to you where you have you know

purchased a home where you live. So, I think it would be, you know, best that you speak with the petitioner and the developer so that you can get the details of this development and make sure that you know uh what they're going to look like, the aesthetics of it, where the windows are going to be, you know, u make sure that it's not too intrusive and I believe Mr. Santel will be um more than willing to speak with you about it. So, what you saying, Miss Howard, that we can continue this because we don't know anything about but just bring it to us tonight. I I think I think I think the most important thing is is that if he took off number seven,

he could do all of one through six already. The only reason that they had to come before the resoning is because number seven wasn't necessarily done the same way as 1 through six. It didn't fit. It didn't fit. So instead of it being three units that he could have put up there at top, but number seven is only two, which changed the configuration of it. So he can he could still do this. If he took away number seven, he could do one through six already. So it wasn't really like a true reszoning and bringing something that wasn't allowed to this area. I think the best thing to do is to speak to the developers cuz there's nothing like he hasn't got anything set in stone. Y'all are the homeowners and I think all of the homeowners on on Alberta Parkway should meet with the petitioner. I mean, I I think y'all should do that anyway

because that what that would do is that would give you an opportunity to see exactly before he actually starts construction what it would look like and you making uh maybe he maybe amendable to some suggestions that you may have to make it, you know, better to your liking that fits in the community. So, but and he can show you what he's done in the past that would give you some ease of comfort as well. He he could actually build one through six, turn them sideways, and all six of them are looking down in your backyard with frontage on 25th Street. He's limited right now. He's the way he's configured this is the least impactful against your house. That's true. It really helps. It really

he under the current zone without even coming up here, he could take one through six, turn them sideways, and all of them be looking in your backyard. Thank you. We Yeah, we we don't have the legal authority to basically we don't have the authority to tell him. He can't if we approve it tonight. It's still got to go for the city council and Miss Howard and Kil. You're right. So, if you've got issues, you can contact Councilman Tiner and Miss Howard and tell them what problems y'all have with it because we're approving it tonight. It's still got to go to the city council for final approval. Well, y'all need to get together anyway. Correct. area. Is that the back side of the ma'am? Apartments.

The browned area in the back. No, that this is just a conceptual drawing to show the kind of like from a area view like the roofs of it. That would be the building. The building the building is the brown and the empty space right there. That's Miss um Booker property, right? So, this is the front here facing Alberta Parkway. Like that's correct. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's right. I will further my conversation with you. Y'all need to get together and talk about the alley and y'all can have a conversation about the the building itself. But definitely want to talk about the alley. Yeah, we will talk.

So, the alley I have one more question. The alley goes from um the front of the partway between Miss Boole property and the young man's property. It goes all the way over to 24th or to sixth, right? Does it go to six? It's what was it? Sixth Street. It goes all the way over to Sixth Street. It's a tenuous alley. See it there? See? Oh, it's going to run all the way across. All the way across. It's a continuous strip of going vertical. Yes.

So, it's not going from I'm kind of confused. I'm just being honest about it. It's not going from the Alberta Parkway all the way over to the 20 U fourth where the College here Baptist Church. That's not the you talking about. It stops right here. It stops at six up and down. It stops the So, it going to stop in my backyard if adjacent to my backyard. Kind of. All right. So, this doesn't But this doesn't show a house in the backyard. This doesn't This doesn't show a house on the joining lot. Is there one? Is there Do you have a house? What's that? That's your lot. Mark her lot, please. A big X. There's a lot. Yes, sir. It's just a lot right now. You lot. Okay. Yeah. It just going to the side of the end of that lot. Okay.

Yes. All the way to six is going to Yes. It ends at the end of that lot. Yes, ma'am. Cuz it Okay. Didn't need to go over over to the next screen. Okay. But this won't this won't be y'all first time to be able to have input on it, but I do suggest y'all get with Mr. Sentel. Okay, we will. Thank you. Thank you. Thank y'all. Anyone else have a comment or care to comment on this petition request? It's all on the list.

All right, having heard none. All right, commission. We got companion case here. We have Z1226 Spectrum Properties request to reszone from SFR4 to MR2. Do I have a motion and a second? Second, Mr. Ramsey. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Motion approved. All right. We have before us S2026 4B spectrum two variance requests. All right, Mr. Attorney, we want to put some language in here about how the petitioner will file to request vacation of the alleyway east of his property. working potentially with the joining property owners. Correct. Yes. As a condition. As a as stated as a condition. As stated as a condition. Is everybody good with that?

It'll be bulletproof. I move we approve with the stated condition that owner. So I have a motion to approve with that stated condition. Whatever I said, right? I guess stated condition that the vacation of the of his portion of the alley. Then we'll ask you, Miss Harden, to make the first call. Is that a yes or a no? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved. I'm sorry.

All right, commission. Moving into our preliminary plat tonight. Starting off with S2126 Skeleton McCracken subdivision consisting of three lots on approximately 24 acres located south of Lewis Fur Road and west of 14584 Lewis Road. This is not in city limits. See, we're pretty far north on the lake. You can see that lot today is vacant. Um and they'd like to split it three ways. You can see here with contours and without. We have three variance requests. We did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff? Engineering. We have no issues with those various requests.

Thank you, petitioner. There's not an alley on this one. No alley. And I'd like the city to vacate all empty alleys from here on out. Just go ahead and take that one as well. So, we're taking this and dividing into three roughly seven acre lots. So, lot two is going to already has a potential residential home for the McCrackens. Uh the other two will be remain vacant. No other anything out of the ordinary. Any questions for petitioners?

Thank you sir. Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request? Having heard none commission for S2126 the skeleton McCracken subdivision 3 variance request engineering has no issues with a motion and a second. Motion second. Mr. Rumsy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next up, we have S226, Reservey Lot One, Nutter's Run, consisting of three lots on approximately 7.4 acres, located at 17719, Highway 43 North. This is not in city limits. You can see we are way up on Highway 43. One lot today with an existing home. They'd like to split it three ways. You can see here proposed developments on the two new created lots. See that without contours, one variance request. Do you have any questions for staff? Engineering on the variance request. No issues with that request. Petitioner.

Kevin Hinkle, Montgomery Hinkle, Inc. professional land surveyors, 203 Harbor Road East, representing the owner of the property to create some lots for some homes. Mr. uh Ankle, would you confirm that Nutter was a dog? I could not, but I heard that Nutter was a dog. We could ask your engineer over there because I think he would know. Just want to get the record.

Yeah. Any any questions for petitioner? Thank you. Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request? Having heard none. Commission before us, we have S 2420. Nope. Uh S 20 226 reserve lot one of Nutter's run. One varian request. No issues. Do I have a motion in a second? Motion to approve. Miss Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next up, we have S2426 McKinnon subdivision being reservey of lot 3R, Old Buttermilk Road. Reservey and unplatted land consisting of two lots on approximately 17 acres located at 4570 and 47 4770 Old Buttermilk Road. This is not in city limits. See, we're just north of Eastwood Middle School and Brian High. You can see there's two existing structures on the lot today. Um, two lots. Um, and they'd like to draw a new lot line here. You see that with contours without and then just zooming in on the two pieces here so you can see more detail. Um, north side on the left. We have four variance requests. We did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff?

Engineering. We're okay with those requests. Thank you, petitioner.

Mike Hicks, attorney Hicks Associates, 2728 Lerene Wallace Boulevard, Northport. She pretty well summed it up. The uh Mr. McKinnon wants to sell the two buildings. So, he's adding the unplatted land to the south and then redrawing the dividing line there. The old old buttermilk road is unpaved. It's being maintained and used by Alabama Power Company and that's only person that uses it. Okay. Any questions for petitioner?

Thank you, sir. Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request? Having heard none, commission for S2426, the McKim subdivision for variance request engineering has no issues with. Do have a motion and a second. Motion. Second, Mr. Rumsy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next up is S2626 Wright house on 8th being reservey a part of lots one through three block C Hopsson and Owen property consisting of one lot on approximately 6 acres located at 1511 through 1519 A Street. This is council district 4. You can see we're between Queen City Avenue and Bryant Denny. You see multiple structures on the existing lots today. Um they'd like to demo all those um consolidate the lot. You see that without contours um with a goal to build triplexes on the site. Um we do have two variance requests. We did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff? Engineering.

We're okay with those. Commissioner

Mike Hicks 2728 Lurling Wallace Boulevard Northport. as she said he she's uh Kelly Wright is wanting to combine these lots into one and build two triplexes. We matched the uh right ofway to the property to the south along 15th Avenue and given up the 25 foot radius in the northeast corner. Any any questions for petitioner? Having heard none. Thank you. Anyone care to speak for or against?

Having heard none. Commission for we have S 2626 the right house on 8th. Two variance request engineering has no issues with. Have a motion and a second. Motion. Second. Mr. Horsesby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. Next up, S 2726, reservey of lots three and four, Carden Family Subdivision. This is a reconfiguration of two lots on approximately 18 acres located at 4301 Charity Lane and 8610 Eastern Hills Drive. This is not in city limits. You can see we are east of Buttermilk Road, south of I20. See those existing two lots. And just to clarify, um there's a section line running through here. So this is one lot here. This is the other lot. Um you can see they'd like to reconfigure it based on this easement through here. Just to to clarify, you can see that with contours, without we have four variance requests, we received one public comment in support of this petition. Do you have any questions for staff?

Engineering all the variance requests. No objections. Thank you, petitioner. Mr. Chairman, Gary Kai, Black Warrior Surveying. Um, as Leota was saying, this is just a reconfiguration of the two lots. Miss Wilson wanted to incorporate the existing house on one of the lots to go ahead and give to her two daughters. Fair enough. Any questions for petitioner? Having heard none. Thank you. Anyone care to speak for or against? Commission for we have slo got move quick around here.

Yeah. I'm Evelyn Wilson. That's my house up there. Um so my husband passed away in November. I have two daughters. One that's here with me right now. Um and she would like to come out to the the property. I have a daughter that's moving in from Huntsville and she she would like a lot of land. The one from Huntsville doesn't want very much. So, um, that's sort of a thing that we're working on and that's kind of a story. Well, best of best of luck to you. Well, we know who the favorite daughter is now. That's right. Who got the most?

All right. So, commission before us. We have S2726, reservey lot 34, Cardon family subdivision for Varian Quest Engineering has no issues. We do a motion and a second. Motion to approve. Second. Uh, Mr. Ramsey. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

Next up, we have S2826, April Sound, reservey of lot 1 R, reservey of lot 1R, SD 1 R, SD1RB of reservey of lots one and two April Sound. This is four lots on approximately 2.7 acres located at and around 11485 April Sound Drive. This is not in city limits. Again, way far north on the lake. You can see the existing lots today. This was originally two lots each with their own satellite lot. You can see they consolidated at one point. Now they're wanting to go back to what they had originally two lots each with their own satellite lot. See that without contours here. One variance request. Do you have any questions for staff?

Engineering. No. Tisher.

Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, Al Cabinets with Cabinets Engineering representing Mars Rentals. It's Ronnie Robertson. Um, and as Leotaa said, these are lots with with satellite sewage disposal lots because of the 300T setback. um was originally two lots on the water. At some point, someone combined them into one lot. We're trying to go back to two lots. It has been u the the SD1R you see some new perk tests there that has been that's been recently tested and approved by the by the health department.

Any questions for petitioner? Thank you. Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request? Having heard none, commission before us, we have S2826, April Sound Reservey. Uh, one variance request engineering has no issues. We have a motion and a second. Motion second. Miss Hornsby. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Motion approved. Next up is S3026 reservey of Emerson Court condominiums. This is one lot on approximately.3 acres located at 900 Jean Stallings Avenue Council District 4. You can see again we're between Queen City and Bryant Denny. Um you all saw this I believe over the summer. It was a condominium conversion. They want to just undo the condo conversion. So you can see that plat with contours without one variance request. Do you have any questions for S? What are they doing? Undoing the condo. Engineer. No issues. Commissioner

Commission Jimmy Duncan with Duncan Coker Associates 2011 Town Center Boulevard uh Tuscaloosa, Alabama 3546. One variance request on concerning the rightway dedication. The reason this same variance request did not come before you when we did the condominium over the summer last fall, uh that rideway dedication does not apply when it's exclusively a condominium conversion. So essentially the owners got down the road with the condominium uh process uh for forming the HOAs insurance and all that and realized it was a bad idea. So they're going back to conventional apartments. Any questions for petitioner? Thanks sir.

Thank you. Anyone care to speak for or against? All right. Having heard none commission before us we have S3026 to reservey the Emerson Court condominiums one variance request. Engineering has no issues with a motion and a second. Motion to approve. Second. Mr. Ramsey. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion approved.

All right. One item of other business tonight that is a street vacation V226 vacating 0.08 acres a part of the rightway known as Southside Drive abuing lot 1 R of factory edition 3. This is council district 2. You see we are just west of 359 here. See that piece of land to be vacated um outlined in red and you can see that on um the plat here. Here are department comments on the street vacation. We did not receive any public comment. Do you have any questions for staff?

No ma'am. Anyone care to speak about this vacation or petitioner? Trying to get ahead of it. I don't know what you're going to tell us is going to enlighten us anything. Go ahead. This Marty McGomery Holand surveying 203 Harrow Road East. Uh representing the owners in this vacation. just wanted to add to their property. Any questions? Thank you. All right, commissioner. We have a vacation request vacating 08 acres Southside Drive. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed. Eyes have Vince.

Vince would like to say something. Not yet. We're not going to journ. Vince has a comment. I real quick. I just want to thank you all for your uh prayers and your sentiments. I'm going to pass it to my father. So, I just wanted to appreci every appreciate everybody on the commission and and the city. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Yep. That's right. Any other staff? Anything? Then we are adjourned.