City Council - Regular Meeting

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Declaration and roll or roll call and declaration of conflicts. Thank you. Council member Abram here and none. Council member Vixel here and none. Vice Mayor Mesar and none. Council member Phillips here none. Mayor Bill Black here and none. Very good. Okay. Approval of the agenda as posted. Uh removing item 11E. So move. Is there a second? Second. Cler, call the role, please. Council member Abram, no. Council member Bixel, no. Vice Mayor Manz, yes. Council member Phillips, yes. Mayor Back, yes.

Thank you. Passes 32. For what? To amend the agenda. No. City. Mr. Pedro Lacas. Do you need a four-fifth vote to amend the agenda? I I don't

I'm not sure it exists. um the agenda as it's written before you. Let me make sure I want the full I invite everyone to read the full language which um this is the time item four to remove items from the agenda or to change the order of the agenda. Matters may be taken up out of order of the established agenda by a four-fifths vote of the city council. So, while I think there's room for interpretation, usually where there's a more specific provision here, the four-fifths vote is limited to changing the order of matters on the agenda and not removing them. Okay. So, so we're good.

Yes.

Thank you. Okay. Uh proclamations. I have economic development up for Turlock Partnership and Senate program. [clears throat] Good evening, council, city staff, and members of the public. Tonight, we have a brief presentation. We are celebrating a new Turlock business that enrolled in the Turlock Partnership Incentive Program, a program that provides $3,500 to a new business that opens in Turlock. Mr. Javier Padilla of Javier Padilla CPA. Mr. Padilla completed all requirements of the program which are be a new business in Turlock that will operate out of a commercial location, not part of a franchise or corporate chain, submit a business plan, participate in a pre-development meeting, and agree a simple recordkeeping and quarterly feedback for one year. Mr. Padilla lives in Turlock, is an alumni of CSU Stannis Loss and loves Turlock just as much as we do. So, Javier, please join us up here. Council, join us. city manager. We have a check presentation that we'd like to present. Mr. Pas, [applause] [applause]

this is important. Good luck. [laughter]

Good idea. It's almost big enough to block

a little bit just a little bit. Perfect. All right. One, two, three. Perfect. One more. And one, two, three. Perfect. Thank you so much. Now you got to take it home and put it in somewhere. Thank you. Thank you. You're so welcome.

In the hallway, [applause]

Mr. Fisher, is that you on industrial rate payer? It is outstanding, sir.

Good evening, mayor, council members. I'm here tonight to provide an update on the temporary industrial rateayers assistance program, which you guys adopted in October of 2024. and that was specifically to help significant industrial users manage the impact of our updated sewer rates. I last presented on this on August 12th of 2025 and I felt it was important to return and share the final update of the program. As you recall, the program was designed to provide temporary financial relief to the industrial customers most affected by the cost of service adjustment, the realignment from our sewer rate study. Funding came um from 2.81 81 million in penalty fees collected under the TMC code 6-4-505. The sewer rate study completed in 2024 made it clear that industrial customers contributed 32.8% of our sewer revenue, but they were responsible for more than half of the systems net cost. Under Prop 218, that requires that our rates be aligned with the actual cost, which meant the industrial users faced significant increases when the new rates took effect on January 1st of last year. Rather than allowing that change to hit all at once, the council took a proactive action um to smooth out the transition, providing the maximum assistance that was allowed by law under the 218 and our budget to give industrial partners some time to adjust. The key features of the program um enrollment required an agreement that waves the right to challenge the adopted sewer rates. Um the participating rate payers received assistance equal to 25% of the total sewer bill which on average was about 37% of their net bills. Um assistance continued until the allocated funds were depleted. Um the final months assistance shared proportionally amongst all the remaining participants. Um this approach has been clear, fair, and really easy to administer. Um and it really ensured that the funds went

exactly where we intended them. Of the 19 customers, uh 15 enrolled and four did not. Um these customers consisted of Turlock's large industrial users as well as the Daire and Keys Community Service District, both of which fell under um fell within our eligibility requirements. Did I skip one by accident? Nope. The budget program funds they have been exhausted. Um meaning the program has concluded the last month that with a full 25% was December um it was November and December's bill contained approximately 4.05% assistance and we balanced it within two cents. So overall successful program. Every participant in this program has been notified by email, regular mail. We've handd delivered um notices that the program's funds have come to an end. Many of of them responded with um a big debt of gratitude. Um they they were really they really liked the program and you know they obviously wanted it to continue but they understood. um council adopted this uh adopted the municipal code 6-44 uh 409 last year which states that you know that we will review the sewer rates on a regular basis and staff [clears throat] is really you know is is is intends to committed to making that happen that way this never happens again um the program worked exactly as we intended it to. Um it really reflects you know your guys' foresight. Um, and I, you know, on behalf of all the industrial rate payers and the staff of Sherlock, you know, we say thanks to the council for making this happen. That concludes my presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Any questions for Mr. Fisher? Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. All right. Public participation. You got some more, Sergeant. This is the time pursuant to California Government Code 54954.3. This portion of the meeting is reserved for members of the public to address the council on matters that are not listed on tonight's agenda, but are within the subject matter of the city council. And I have Alyssa. Are you ready to go first? Come on up. I'm so sorry. Can I have ask a question? Sure. When I start speaking, is that when the three minutes? Yes, ma'am. Okay, that is correct. Good question.

Okay. Good evening, mayor and members of the city council. My name is Alyssa Ray Samaria. I am here to speak about my experience at the Turlock Gospel Mission. During my stay, I experienced practices that raised serious concerns regarding procedural fairness, safety, privacy, and oversight, particularly for women and children. I experienced restrictions in responses to concerns that were not accompanied by clear written explanations, um, consistent enforcement or a meaningful opportunity to respond. Clear policies and documentation are essential. Without them, residents are left uncertain and hesitant to advocate for themselves. emergency shelter residents, including women and families, shared common living spaces with individuals participating in internal programs. When populations with different needs and risk profiles are housed together without clear separation, disclosure, or safeguards, it places women and children in a position where safety concerns may be silently endured rather than addressed. While staying in the women's sleeping dormatory areas, I observed surveillance cameras located within sleeping spaces that were also occupied by children. The presence of cameras created a sense of constant monitoring rather than safety and raise concerns regarding cons consent, dignity, oversight, and the protection of children. I am not alleging intent or misuse. However, this is an issue that warrants formal review and clear policy standards. I experienced unwelcome verbal conduct from an individual who was both a participant in the internal program and employee and employed in a role assisting emergency shelter residents. Following the incident, I filed a police report to document what occurred and to protect myself and my child. Despite this, I did not observe an immediate staffing adjustment, nor was the director present to replace the shift. When an incident When an incident this serious enough to warn a police report,

the absence of visible safety response can leave residents feeling unprotected and unheard. Respectfully, I asked the city council to consider reviewing oversight and accountability measures for shelters operating in the city, encouraging clear written policies on safety, privacy, staff conduct, and incident response, supporting traumainformed training and com complaint procedures, and ensuring that emergency shelter access does not require women or children to sacrifice fundamental protections. Thank you for your time and for allowing me to speak. Thank you, Alyssa. Dr. Bgo, could you perhaps put her in touch with the board of supervisors? Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Uh, Chris Richtor, come on in.

Uh, good evening, mayor and city council. Thank you for hearing me out. I wanted to address some um pedestrian uh safety concerns at the intersection of Berkeley and Taylor. So, uh, my wife and I regularly take walks in the neighborhood in this time of year. It tends to be in the dark. Um despite wearing lights and using the crosswalk, uh we genuinely fear for our safety at this intersection. Um cars routinely just roll through the stop sign uh not expecting pedestrians uh to be in the crosswalk and we have almost been hit on multiple occasions. Uh what makes this especially concerning is that even when I'm driving this intersection myself, it's difficult to see pedestrians. There's lights and trees in the median that make it difficult to that's distracting to see what's around you. Um, I believe that drivers may be cautious but may still not see uh the pedestrians that are there. I understand that a few months ago someone was actually struck at this location. I saw somebody on the ground and there being a police officer at the site. Um, so if this is not an issue that the city is prepared to address proactively, maybe I request that there are records of dispatch to the area to see how often this is happening. Um, so what I'm asking for, I don't think is unreasonable, but we need a better pedestrian u warning symbol or um flashing crosswalk or something like that to alert drivers that there's somebody there. Um, and probably not just on the sides, but all the way across because it's so distracting. So, uh, my understanding is that there's funding uh, for this such as, uh, the assessment district funds in measure L um, that are available for safety improvements like this. I al also understand the city is already aware of speeding concerns there as I see little signs that say bump like we're going to put in speed bumps. So if we already know people are speeding I think we should pay a little bit more attention to the pedestrian safety. Um and then um as it stands the intersection feels like

a dangerous um what I understand is a dangerous condition condition on public property, one that puts residents in the city at unnecessary risk. So um just asking the city to take some reasonable preventative steps before somebody's seriously injured. Thank you. Thanks, sir. I don't have anybody car any other cards. Is anybody else wishing to speak on open public comment? Come on up, sir. Hi.

Hi. My name is Spencer Jones. I have a 900 square foot house. Um, for the past, I want to say better part of four years, I've been charged for anywhere on average between 28 to 46,000 gallons of water to my residents. I've called the city multiple times. Nothing has been done at all. I called today. I was told that I keep speaking to the wrong person. I am directed somewhere else. If you're going to take my money, I need to be speaking to the right person. And this is absolutely ridiculous. I've tried everything to contact for the past two years and no one has done anything for my situation. It is absolutely ridiculous. Hundreds, thousands of dollars, nobody has done nothing. And I feel like I It's pretty much, hey, do it or we shut off your water. I've lived in Turlock for the past 10 years. Love this town. How I've been treated for this, absolutely disgusted. Um, I have been advised to come to this city council meeting to actually ask, "Hey, what can my city do for me?" And hopefully I get a response. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Fischer, can you touch base with that gentleman, please? Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak on open public comment? Come on up. [clears throat]

Good evening, uh, Milt Treeweiler. I want to speak about our consent calendar and the reason for a consent calendar. If you look at the agenda, you always see the notion or the notice of a consent counter. And on it says, "All matters listed under the consent counter are considered routine and will be enacted with one motion with no separate discussion. Any item may be removed from the consent counter and considered separately as a request of the mayor or council member. The whole thing is 130 words. I'm going to continue reading it. Prior to the council action, members of the public may address the council on a consent uh calendar. If during the consent calendar comments a member of the public requests removal of any items separate and at for separate consideration, a mayor or the council member may do so. Public comments on the consent counter is limited to one minute per speaker regardless of the number of items addressed by the speaker. Okay. I've attended meetings public meetings for the last 13 years. A lot of different meetings. This is the only city that has the rule like this. every other and besides I'm going to read the rule that was in the council uh was in effect in 2018 December. This is just a agenda from a previous meeting. Here's what it says. It was 60 words here. Consent calendar. Information concerning consent counter items listed herein has been forwarded to each council member prior to the list uh meeting for study unless the mayor, a council member or a member of the audience has questions concerning the consent calendar. The items are approved in one time by the council. The action taken by the council in approving the council items is set forth in an explanation to the individual for the individual items. So in other words, this is very odd that we have this convoluted thing which goes on u and explains all these different

criteria that you have to meet. Also in in this uh meeting here the public participation time was five minutes. That was a prescribed time that everybody got to speak five minutes and this was just 2018. Today it's down to three minutes. At this time, you could also spend five minutes speaking on something that was on the consent calendar. Even when it went down to three minutes, we could still speak for three minutes about a consent calendar item. This is ridiculous. One more item I'd like to bring up. I've noticed in all the other council meetings I've attended, if there is a member that on the council that is not present, the location of that person is mentioned. It's told what the reason is. They say, "Okay, this person had major surgery and they can't come to a counseling meeting. They're at home and they're on the phone." Or they're in a hotel room in Texas because they had to go see their a funeral. They had to go to a funeral. It's always explained. I'd like to know where Mayor Blueblack is. I'd like to know where Mayor um Monz was when she was gone. This needs to be explained to the public. We need to have this open discussion.

Thank you, Madame Clerk. Was mayor's location posted this evening on the agenda? Correct. Correct. For those of you at home that don't know and would like to know where Mayor Bublack is at this evening, she is in Washington DC trying to ask the federal government for money for the city of Terlock and uh we're grateful that she's there to do that. Anybody else wishing to speak on open public comment tonight. Okay, Mr. Bridegroom, come on up. Good evening and um happy New Year's

since I wasn't here last time. Um, just off the top of my head, um, I sent a couple emails, um, was it a couple weeks ago or even more than that about, uh, the housing funds, the $20 million that we think we had in housing funds and how, um, the, um, project at 1143 11:45 Park Street um, which we began back in July of 2016, I believe. Uh, and handed off to the, um, Stansel Law's um, housing authority. Um, and now they, um, are coming back, beginning that project again, and got some funding at the last, um, supervisor's meeting in December, but that funding only covered half of what they need. [clears throat] and um they stated very clearly that they're looking at coming to Turlock for the rest of the funding. And there were four other projects that uh uh they had that they um want to um also come to Turlock to look for funding for. Okay. So, uh, if you remember, I was, um, pretty upset because we've had $20 million and we've sat on it for at least six years and, uh, now a good, um, portion of that money may, um, go to the county to other areas than, uh, Sherlock. So, I'd kind of like to get a response to the email. I would appreciate a response uh to let me know what is happening in that situation. So, thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else? Okay. Closing public comment. Dr. Bargo, you're up. I will um get a response to that. Uh the $20 million Oh, if if you'd like. Go ahead.

I mean, I mean, I won't right now. No, I'm just saying I will get a response to that. Um, [clears throat] couple things I want to point out. Uh, uh, the community engagement meeting coming up in, uh, February, uh, related to the city of Turlock and Americans with Disabilities will provide a couple community listening sessions uh, to talk about experiences, barriers, ideas for improving access across the city. So if you are interested or you know people interested, please refer them to those meetings in February that you can uh find on the website. Um there's small business expo. We're co-hosting with the small business development center and the Turlock Chamber. Um we'll cover a diverse lineup of funding options for small businesses and entrepreneurs including SBA loans, microloans, small business loans. Um there'll be a variety of representatives there uh to send people. Um the city hired seven new firefighters on January 20th. Uh so that was a lot of work uh for everybody uh making those getting those hires made. Um and then some of you have seen or asked at different times when I've made reports that um the economic development strategic plan is being highlighted in various sections of that but it's also posted on uh on our website if you are interested in seeing that. Um, and it talks about housing, downtown revitalization, industrial growth, infrastructure, investment, and we will continue to highlight that plan uh throughout the next bit of time. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am.

All right. Okay. Moving on to the consent calendar. Anybody have anything they want to pull? Yes, sir. E, please. Anybody else? Madam council member, is there a motion? Uh, move to approve with pulling 8E. Second. Second. Madam cler, call the role, please. Council member Abram, yes. Council member Bixel, yes. Vice Mayor Monet, yes. Council member Phillips, yes. Mayor Black, yes. Excellent. Okay, let's uh go ahead and open 8 up to the public. Mr. Tree, you want to come on up?

This does not sound like a routine matter to me because this is actually could involve up to $3 million. I do have questions about it. First of all, what is being done at the present time? What bank is providing the services or is it just been done internally? Uh also, I'd like to know um who Tyler payments are. They are going to be taking care of the credit card processing and uh who is taking care of the credit card processing. Now, uh, will the fees, this is the third question, will the fees the city's paying for all the covered banking fees plus credit card fees be less than the city's paying today? These are important matters. It's not really described at all very clearly in what was said. Uh, okay. And what is the cost to the staff for the staff to make the changes that staff has to make so that they're in compliance with this new banking rule? It's going to take staff time, too. So this is a lot that needs to be explained and it can't just be explained in a minute. It should be uh explained openly. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak on consent item 8E? Okay, we'll close the public comment. Mr. Marino, please. Thank you. You know, technically, mayor, I just want to point out for the record once the item's pulled, the person has up to three minutes to discuss it if he'd like to come back. Did you want to come back up, Mr. Treeer? We only gave you one minute. You get three. If you want your other two minutes, you can certainly have it, sir. Okay. Well, I think you should change what it says in the uh agenda because it says one minute in the agenda. And like I said, all other council meetings, if it's fivem minute council, I mean, if it's all other meetings I've gone to, if it's a five minute public participation,

can you stay on the five or the 80 item that you pulled, please? It's Oh, 80. Yes. 80.

Thank you. Um, so, uh, again, this is $3 million total. What implemented this? You said that you did go to six different, uh, banks. Did all of these banks provide a response? How did you contact them? Did you go to them personally? Did you just send out a mailer to them? How were the banks contacted? Did you follow up on the contacts? Did you get responses from all six of the banks or did you just get responses from one bank? Um, again, a lot of things can be done in this consent calendar that shouldn't be do happening. It's a lot of times it's just a mistake. Everybody can make mistakes, but there are other times when it can be some kind of well more than a mistake. Let me just put it that way. And we have to be careful about the times when it can be more than a mistake. So this item here uh has a lot of questions that you can ask and you can hear me asking them. Um I mean I don't want to talk I I that bank is my bank but I don't want to say anything personal about that bank. U but I've had that bank for a long time and um I've had other banks for and I like some other banks. They're all can be good but they have to have a lot of experience. They have to know what they're doing. I don't know how much money this will actually save us. Is it actually going to cost us more in the long run than we're paying now? So, are we paying going to be paying more or less than we're paying now? Thank you.

Thank you. Would you please? Thank you. Thank you.

So, quite a few questions. We'll go through it. I I just want to start the overall statement about um why we do this, why we put on an RFP. um from any practice in general. It's good to have this overall practice to make sure that one we're vetting all options, which is what an RFP does, right? Um in addition to that, Western America has been our bank for 20 plus years, right? This is as far as pending on consent. This is not a new activity. We've done this quite a few times. It's been a little over 10 years is why we did the RFP to again go back to best practices. So that's one part of it. Overall, Tyler Payments is our new credit card processor. So why we did identified that in staff staff report and why it's consistent is because we get a fee from the credit card processor which is west America currently right now that we identified a dollar amount but we expect a reduction in that dollar amount in staffing report because the credit cards are going to go to another funding our pro our expenditure force and what that does is because we did this is to streamline our credit card processing on how it interacts with our ERP system. So it's actually creating more efficiencies. Um if you if you remember going to the past and utility aspects, we actually had to take the car behind the the terminal run it back then. We now have terminals in front of the counter where we're now in compliance with credit card processing, things of that nature. So we created efficiencies by actually making this change and creating forming how we do things. Um so what's new and how the fees and structures come forward? Yes, we are getting better fee structure. That's one of the primary reasons why we do this, right? We do want to make sure that even though we have long-term customer service through this contract or the prior contracts that we make sure that we're they're still being competitive and so an RP process does that. Then we make sure that the bank and whoever other services that we're we're contracting with is competitive. So that's why we do this. Another real large reason why a factor of why we did not change is because of the impacts to staffing. Right? Having to change banks is very substantial work late work. You now have to contact everybody that's a our banks. We have to change payroll activities. There is a lot of activities that go into actually changing these

banks. It's not a very simple transaction overall. It takes a lot of staff time and a lot of dollars actually to get that done. Um how do we so how do we notify do the RF process to make sure that we get the word out there about this process and to make sure it's fair and competitive. We actually notified every single local bank to make sure that we did have a fair and competitive process within the RP. It is actually beneficial for the city to have a local branch in a sense if we need to get change or anything may occur that we can have one a a local representative to communicate with two we have a local branch that we can go to if we need to to do inbank activities. So to conclude basically how we came to where we're at fair competitive process. It is it is not something that's new to the city. We've been utilizing this bank for substantial amount of years. Um and again there's a benefit where we are impacting the fees are being reduced and having other savings overall. The six that are identified are the ones that responded to the RFP not necessarily the ones that reached out or pulled documents. We do not dictate who actually submits. We just identify within the stamp port of who did submit. Is there any further questions? I think I got them all. If there's something I missed.

Anybody have any questions for him? What's the will of council? Move to approve. Second. Third. Second and third. Madam clerk. Thank you. Council member Abram. Yes. Council member Bixel. Yes. Vice Mayor MZ. Yes. Council member Phillips. Yes. Mayor Block. Yes. Thank you. All right. Moving on. Item 11 A. And this is going to be Who's this going to be? Ma'am. Paul. Paul. Director Lure, come on up, sir. [clears throat]

Good evening, Madame Mayor, uh, members of the council. I am here with Jeffrey Lewis. Again, he is president and CEO of Legacy Health Endowment. Um, at the last meeting a couple weeks ago, we're here to talk about the person- centered care program. Um, I walked you through the background in terms of the city's participation, which started in 2022. Um, we talked about, uh, the funding from the city, which totaled $1 million. Mr. Lewis is here to request an additional $300,000 to support the program for one more year. And Mr. Lewis uh gave an annual report on the program. The item was continued to this meeting uh to address some outstanding questions. It's my understanding that those uh questions were vetted with Mr. Lewis. Um so I'm here to answer any questions or um or however you would like to proceed.

No, that's great. I I'm the one that had the questions. I did get a chance to talk to him after our last council meeting in which he did answer my questions and I don't know if any of you all have any more questions, but I will I'm happy to open it back up. But there is one thing I forgot to ask you. I want to know why um why is this why is this program so important for you here in Turlock? So the history is when I was very young, I watched both grandmothers die in nursing homes. One from neglect, one from old age. Carried forward that work with me every place I've been. Established a program in Pittsburgh to build, you know, annuities for poor older women. Uh build a program in Ann Arbor, Michigan to do something similar in neighborhoods. So, the Turlock program is another way of saying going to help elderly people who are in their homes, stay in their homes, uh provide services, and in a meaningful way provide food assistance, keep them out of a long-term care facility and a hospital emergency room for as long as possible. That's at the heart of this, but it's at the heart of what I do.

Thank you. Anybody have any questions for him? All right, let's open it up to the public. Anybody in the public wishing to speak on this item on the agenda? Come on up.

Um, is there a uh age uh criteria um for for this? Um, beyond that, I I would also say I I I think this is great. Um,

thank you. Um, you know, I know when I was taking care of my mom, I was able to uh get her enrolled in a special program that the insurance company had uh to where they had a a set of doctor and nurses and nutrition and pharmacists all dedicated just to um elderly people um to try to keep them in their homes. Okay. And that was great. I mean, there were times to where I was able to call up at uh noon and get her in there before, you know, 4:00, 5:' um so um uh programs like this um can help a lot. I remember when you first presented, not first presented the program, but your first report, if I remember right, you showed us a list has always uh stuck with me. Um, you didn't name the individuals, but you said like um 62year-old man who was in a wheelchair and needed a a ramp and you know the the um grips in in the bathroom and so on and so forth. And you kind of went through for each of your um clients uh showing um what the program was doing for them. And I thought that was excellent because it really gave everyone, you know, a very specific idea of um I don't know the right way to put it, but what we're getting for our money. Okay, that sounds horrible, but that's the only thing I could think of. Um and um I wish we could get that from other nonprofits, but that's off the subject. Um so I don't know if you have any more of that uh information. I I'm just curious if you do, you could I think you know my email.

I think so. You know, you you could send that to me. Sure. Be happy to. Um your question about age typically Dr. Lewis, can you hold on for me? Let me let me get my public comment closed out and see if there's anybody else wishing to speak when he's done. Yeah. Um so I'm I I support the program. Okay. That's it. Good. Anybody else wishing to speak on this item? Okay. Closing public comment now. Go.

So to run to your question, typically 55 and older, but if we're if we find someone who's disabled who's younger and needs assistance or the family needs assistance, they're never turned away. So it just, you know, we just take care of a lot of people and I'll get you that report. Mayor Bublack, I think I forgot about you up there. Hi. Hi. Did you have any questions for Dr. Lewis?

Less question and more just a statement. Uh, first I he had me until he said Pittsburgh. I don't know why he's pushing Pittsburgh Steelers, but anyway. [laughter] But beyond that, I I believe that this is not something we used general fund. And since we don't have to for this uh trunch, I'm super happy. But I'm hoping that the county and the state start to realize how successful this is and they start to adopt these kind of things that are within their purview. So with that, I'll yield back to the rest of you. Thank you. Any other questions or comments?

Just a comment and you know to to piggyback off of what mayor's comment speaking personally, this is you know and and in my capacity here, this is a great program. You know, you're helping so many people. I am very pleased that you brought this to the city and that we've been able to support it for as long as we have. You know, and the the personal comment was, yeah, I I want this for everyone and I want all levels of government to be involved in this process. Um but removing the personal aspect, I want to reiterate my my point from last time that you know we as a city have limited resources and lots of needs and looking at this funding source in comparison to you know the health endowment I I feel like the time is to pass uh this on to to to your um to to fulfill the mission that you know we all want to see. So, um, I will be voting no tonight and I wanted to make that clear as to why. Anybody else?

Okay, we make a motion. Yes. Move to approve. Second. Council member Abram, no. Council member Bixel, yes. Vice Mayor Monet, yes. Council member Phillips, yes. Mayor Back, yes. Thank you.

Mr. Marino, it's your turn again. Thank you honorable mayor that's up in the the speakers the sky but sometimes you forget honorable council members and mayor um the item you have before you is a routine matter in nature uh we'd like to bring it as forward to to have a discussion per our measure a guidelines and also ordinances how was adopted. It requires an annual uh accountability report which we we call the annual financial accountability report. The report in itself generates uh financial information that dictates how the funds were spent within the fiscal year in this case in the fiscal year 24-25. The report is also posted to the city website specifically to the data is utilized for our new web page. So you can see that information there as well as in the packet. Um, so again, this is really a nature in a sense that the board itself or the committee itself has already approved this document. So at this point, I'd really like to turn it over to our chair, Mr. Shields, who will speak to the information and how the committee is working.

Tell us how you're keeping Mr. Marino on his toes.

Oh, we always are. We always are. Trust me. Uh, no, but thank you so much for having me. My name is Patrick Shields. I'm the chair of the Measure A committee. Um, Madame Mayor, hope you're enjoying DC. I can't imagine it's uh too warm there right now. Uh council uh thank you so much. Like I said, um one of the things that we do at the measure 8 committee is we often have discussion about how the information is presented to the public. Um how much of that is actually in our purview, I don't know, but we have that discussion quite often, right? We review a lot of this a lot of these things are they're numbers, right? And there are numbers put into spreadsheets that show the breakdown of what measure A is basically receiving uh and how it's being spent. It's pretty cut and dry. Uh it's a, you know, typical, you know, budget and how it's being spent. Um, Miss Mareno does a great job though of taking all of our questions, answering them, and then providing our feedback into what you're seeing now on the city's website and the pie charts and things of that nature. Um, we were excited to, and I think I said this last time when I presented, um, we're excited to be part of that policy that was put in place that kind of made some changes and put in an actual policy for measure A and how it's going to be broken down. Um, there is a, you know, the tax measure was passed a certain way, but there was some more policy implemented and it came to the council and the council approved it. Um, so we've been able to do small things like that, but things that are measurable and things that I hope um, and we hope helps bring clarity to how this is being spent. Um and from our point of view, we don't see any issues with it. We see that the money is being spent uh on roads, the money is being spent on public safety, um on law enforcement and fire. Um and that's and it's important um it's also important to recognize that um this is a small portion of what goes into a lot of stuff, but it is a lot of money and it is a lot of money from um the citizens and the residents. And so our oversight committee um we meet you know quarterly essentially every three months. Um every

three months we have we've had some really great reports and we've seen a continuous uh steady um revenue flow and we're excited to see some of the projects that are going to be funded by measure A over the next couple years here and um and hopefully to see those big signs get you know when it says Measure L and all this other kind of stuff. Measure A is going to be on there and um and so some of the other things that you might not see and if you read the report you'll see it. um the funding that goes to the public safety. Like I said, we talked about that a little bit at our last meeting here. Um was it two weeks ago?

Uh we talked about some of the money that's going towards um you know the public safety aspect and how important it is. Um we know that uh as a committee we can give recommendations to Mr. Mareno um that he you know he listens to us and he he takes it into consideration but he really does a great job of bringing it back to us and saying here's what we you know the changes that you guys have asked us to make or the the comments or adding this to the the website we've it's gotten done. So we do feel that the accountability report is um is well within its uh expectation uh from the citizens that serve on the committee. And so um I'm happy to answer any questions although I think he's got more of the answers than I do. Um, but again, I appreciate your guys' um, opportunity to serve in this committee and to serve this city and uh, we are um, we're really excited to see the Measure A funds being spent and how they're being spent. So, long story short, right?

No, it's perfect. Thank you. Can I make a request that we pull up the new visual aid that's part of this, the pie chart?

Do we have it? It's on the website in the agenda packet. Um but I but that leads me to my question comment that it's looking so much more user friendly. So I'm very appreciative of that. Um and my actual question is um a new new for the fiscal year that's being reported on is the the first trunch of the bond revenue. Can you clarify for everyone what the bond repayment schedule [clears throat] is? I apologize, city clerk, for uh making this making your job more difficult right now. [laughter]

Feel free to answer. Oh, yeah.

You know where the website's at, right? [laughter] Do you need Nick?

Google it. That's what I do. Um just to kind of address your comments for pouring the information up. Um so yes during the budget process we discussed the proceeds and how they come through. Um obviously those funds are being utilized but now they're budgeted to be expended for this fiscal year. Um so in the fiscal year we budgeted about 20 million to be allocated to capital projects for roads. Um the debt structure is also part of the budget process right so within the budget itself the documents and in the measure um at quarterly reports you'll see what the debt payments are going to be. I want to say they're close to three million if I am close um off the top of my head. So, but that that information how that gets paid is directly within the budget report so that we can have that information readily available. So, to go back to your statement as well, um the overall information that you're seeing now is really feedback coming back from the committee itself on how more visual aids and get the information more u out to the public. the more information we can put out there that is easy to read and again accompanied committee because to me as a bean counter I'm like hey it's a chart there it is there's a spreadsheet here we go um where a more visual aid a more better information a better flow of how it all comes together I really need their assistance to help me to kind of get that information out there and they made a big push to help me get in that direction um all the reports that you see regardless of this one or another one I like feedback how did you like to receive the information does Does it work for the public? Does it work for the council? Does it work for the committee? And so that's how we come to the current documents. And I think they're always fluid. They're always being adapted. Um you'll see a change in the current report because now you have the roads program in there as far as how many actual projects the roads are being completed and what it all looks like. And again, that came back from conversations with the committee about where's where's it all going from the roads perspective. Yes, we know you're doing, but it's which ones did you actually hit? Um, obviously we can't go too far into what the horizon looks like because that's more presentations to come to council, but the roads manager is being requested to come back for

another presentation. We discussed that with them too as well. So trying to get to them information and get as public information as much as possible because to me they are our sounding board, right? So they're the people that get talked to as far as how does it work in the committee and what are you guys doing. So overall a lot of it comes through the budget process and through the council, but also through the committee. Okay, questions. Question. Are there any um excuse me, are there any projects delayed at all?

All the projects that are going to be in the roads program, we're full steam ahead. Nothing's going to be being delayed whatsoever. Um even if a project got delayed, I I guarantee the roads manager is going to shift and move and we'll put another project in there. Um so we are headast issue the debt and we're holding to what that looks like. Um, I'm very hands-on when it comes to the road program budget and we work hands in hand to make sure that we stay consistent with those numbers and we can continue to fund it. But at this point, I can say there's no delays. We are fully mad. Mayor Bubalak, are you up there? Questions or comments? Ma'am, I didn't go down there. Ma'am, no comments.

Thank you. Okay, let's go ahead and open it up to the public. Any member of the public wishing to speak on this item, come on up. [snorts]

Yes. Uh Milt Treeweiler and I'm proud to say that I was the grassroots that got this off and on its way. A friend of I bought 200 signs and all the yes on measure A signs that you saw in Turlock except for the very large ones were actually paid out of my pocket and her pocket. We split it 50/50. We went door todo. I personally went door todo to hundreds of houses here in Turlock to make sure that people were aware of Measure A. Uh there were ever other people in Turlock who were opposed to Measure A. And uh so it was a a good battle. We won by I believe it was what 73% of the vote voted for measure A. So I'm really proud that being grassroots really does pay off. And I just want to go back a little bit here and say that no one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. But when you rushed me up here to talk about 8E on the agenda, you actually forgot to vote the whole consent calendar through. So only one item on the consent calendars passed and that's 8E. You didn't get any you didn't have a roll call vote on the others.

So anyway, no one's perfect, so don't worry about that. But be a good citizen. Everyone needs to be a good citizen. They need to come to their council meetings and they need to speak up because if things are right, that's good. If things are wrong, it needs to be pointed out. That's what government is about. That's what a democracy is about. And measure A is a great thing. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak on this item? Come on up. just some comments on um um presenting to um uh the public. Uh that pie chart is um very good. Um I took the pie chart and your expenditures there and kind of combined them together into one chart, put it on Save Turlock and um I can never tell how they're going to be received. I kind of figured that you know something about finances is not going to get too many people to look at it. I was surprised there was a lot of people um a lot of um the post u reached a lot of people actually generated a lot of u comments. I was actually surprised by some of them to where some people said, "Uh, roads. I I thought this was supposed to be just for public safety." And then other people were saying, you know, about roads. Well, you're not fixing any roads. Why aren't any roads getting fixed? Yeah. I tried to explain over and over, it's a $250 million problem. We're not going to solve it in one year. um kind of a suggestion I might have. Oh. Oh, and from your your quarterly reports, one of the things that I have found uh of interest that I think people would like is when you show the um the number of um people who are employed by, you know, the police officers, the firefighters, so on and so forth. I think that is a good breakdown and I believe that the public would be interested in in that. Um, is there a way that with roads, if I remember right on that chart there, um, further on

down, you had the list of all the roads. Yeah. Right. But, you know, I didn't put that up. I mean, even I didn't look at that. Okay. it. I know this is asking a a lot, but is there a way that we could take the map of the city and maybe highlight the roads that we fixed, you know, o over the year, maybe that might be a way of presenting that. I know that the road doctors got those maps. Yeah. Okay. And and and the overlays that go with them, but that's something we would have to research with staff.

Yeah. So it's just an idea idea just a thought that came to my mind as I was listening uh to your um u presentation but uh so I think definitely you've made good improvements you know and the pie chart so on and so forth so thank you

thank you anybody else wishing to speak come on Good evening. I'm Mary Jackson. I didn't make it because of athletic events. Anyway, um I would love to see measure A money and I don't know if it's possible to do this um spent on somehow I don't know if it can be on the homeless, but I think it needs to be addressed. And I feel like I'm I say I'm in in invoking the Groundhog Day story again. Um because we just had a situation at WeCARE where a man was on the ground. Had probably been ill for um a week in terrible pain. Didn't want to go to the hospital. Didn't want to go via ambulance to Emanuel. Convinced him to go. This was a Saturday of the 49er game. That's why we were actually originally there was to try and get the game on TV. Um, long story short, Saturday we took them him in. He was looked at, scanned, did not um, make sure you're paying attention. Scanned and and he was let go and they shouldn't do that because we were they had already given his room away at um, the shelter. So, we figured out a hotel room, got brought him back, talked to Dr. Reap and gave us told us what to do. We went back on Sunday. um he got admitted very quickly and it turns out he had kidney stones, a UTI, um his liver and heart were infected and he has hernia issues as well. I mean, he was really a mess and so we don't have health care. Um I just talked to Jeffrey Lewis on the way out and he told me Golden Valley Health Clinic used to has a van that goes around. um Kaiser used to come um and he also gave me a suggestion about eyeglasses. But it's

those kind of things. 25 years ago, we had a man or 20 years ago, we had a man, Mick, who was ran over. And if you look at the cost and benefit um analysis of how this happens, it it's ludicrous. It's why our ins our health insurance costs are so expensive. Um I do want to say I am extremely pleased about the road work. Um, sidewalks were fixed on our street. We have a new road. It did take four months. Um, I'm not exactly sure. Um, like right in my northeast neighborhood, there's about 10 streets that are being paved. Um, we did have like mirror floors paved and it was done all at once, but now we've got like it's almost like a jigsaw puzzle trying to get around our area and we're by Chalk High and we're by Julene. Um, and so it's just really I I wish it seems like we've got one street that's all broken up. Um, and then we have another street that's closed because it's dirt. And so it's like it's just hard to maneuver. I think Mr. Bixel would probably agree with me that it's a little chaotic. Um, I'm appreciative. I will not complain. Um, and they did a couple of things that were quirky, like putting on asphalt on Halloween and it got on everybody's shoes and clothes and things, but they fixed it the next day. So, my two cents. Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak on this item?

Okay, we're going to close public comment. What is the will of council? I will make a motion to approve, but I'd like to make an additional comment. Um, I understand that the the motion before us is to approve the accountability report. I'm going to take a little bit of liberty in the spirit of accountability to just make a comment about the expenditures there. So, we've changed our policy and we are not funding the general fund reserves anymore. However, those funds are still there in our general fund reserves. Our reserves are we are in a very fortunate position that we have a lot more reserve than our policy says that we should need. And I would just like to put it out there that I believe that it is in keeping with measure a policy and our general fund policy if we were to see items that come back to support our public safety infrastructure. So, I would like that to be known and I have a motion on the floor uh for both resolutions. Ma'am. Um, we have two. I will, but

two. I have two on mine. Do you need two m or one? That's C. I'm sorry. You're right. It's blending all together now. I understand. There's a motion and a second. Second. Madam clerk. Council member. Yes. Council member. Yes. Vice Mayor. Yes. Council member Phillips. Yes. Snow got her. Mayor Boo Black.

Okay, we have lost Mayor Bou Black. Okay. Um, Madame Clerk, can I say that passes 40? Thank you. All right, it passes 4 Z. Folks, it's 7 o'clock. We are going to take a five minute break and be right back at 7:05. She can't hear. She's having problem. Hey, nice. Thank you.

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Good luck with that. She's called in right now.

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All right, and we are back. Moving on. I believe we are on item 11C. Jen, come on up. This is the one with two resolutions. Yes. Right here.

This one. Good evening, madame mayor and council members. The item before you is the sale is approving the sale of two city- owned properties to Great Valley Housing Development Corporation, a nonprofit affordable housing organization. The city of Turlet currently owns three residential properties that were purchased with the intent to rehabilitate up to housing quality standards and either transfer to a nonprofit agency to provide affordable rental housing or sell the houses to income eligible first-time home buyers. Currently, one of the three properties is tenant occupied while the remaining two are vacant. One of the vacant properties is currently in the process of being sold through the city's first-time home buyer program. A request for proposal or RFP was issued in December of 2025 for two city-owned properties located adjacent to one another on Birwood Way and Turlock. 573 Birchwood Way is a three-bedroom, two- bath, single family unit that is vacant and was purchased in 2023 with community development block grant or CDBG funds. The unit was rehabilitated in October 2025 utilizing permanent local housing allocation or PHA funds and home funds. The property was appraised in April of 2025 for 420,000. 591 Birwood Way is a three-bedroom, two bath single family unit that is currently occupied with a tenant and was purchased in 2021 and rehabilitated [snorts] that same year with CDBG funds. The property was appraised in June 2025 for 410,000. Both properties will have deed restrictions ensuring the properties remain affordable housing. 573 Birchwood for 55 years and 591 Birchwood for 30 years. Two proposals were received for both properties. After thorough review of the submitted proposals, the loan committee recommended awarding the transfer of both properties to Great Valley Housing Development Corporation. Great Valley Housing Corporation

Development Corporation is a nonprofit affordable housing organization based in Modesto, California. They have over 25 years of experience developing and managing affordable housing throughout Stannis Loss County. It was determined that Great Valley Housing Development Corporation demonstrated a strong understanding of preparing financial budget projections and submitted a more thorough proposal than the other applicant, indicating strong strong extensive experience in providing affordable housing. There was also a green sheet that is to correct typos of incorrect numbers on page three and four of the loan document for 591 Birchwood. That concludes my presentation. I'm available for any questions. Why the difference in the years one property to the other

that are next door to each other? So one's 55 and one's 30 as far as um the one I'm sorry the one for 55 is was done with the PHA funds. That's one of the requirements of PHA. Anybody else? Um, Miss Figaro, can you elaborate a little bit on why um why transferring this to a nonprofit developer was the best course of action in the recommendation?

Well, one of the Birchwood properties is tenant occupied, so we did not want to have to relocate that tenant. Um, also we believe that the properties because they're adjacent to each other, they just good for a nonprofit portfolio to provide affordable rental housing. We felt that that was the best course of action for those two properties. Council member, I would add it has not been simple to move properties for sale in these in this cycle. So transferring to nonprofits was u you know um if you will simpler Thank you,

Madam Clerk. You don't by chance have the mayor back, do you? Okay. Thank you. Any other questions before I open it to the public? [clears throat] All right, let's open it to the public. Anybody wishing to speak on this item? Come on up.

I'll just put it wherever you want. It's okay. Hi, good evening. Good evening. Um, I'm Kim Ryan. I'm here on behalf of Great Valley Housing Development and I just wanted to take this opportunity to say thank you to city council and to staff. You guys did a great job. Um we look forward to your consideration of this and and um we wanted to provide you know any if you had any questions um or you know you wanted for me I could help you out with that. Um again just thank you for the opportunity to submit this proposal and um we look forward to possibly working with city of Turlock. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak? Coming up. Okay, let's see if I can formulate my questions. Um, one of the, uh, kind of ongoing thoughts, issues that I've had with all of this is, um, the lack of feedback to the council and community about, um, what benefits to the community are we getting out of the uh, expenditure of over these past years of many millions of dollars, okay, of buying houses, rehabilitating them, and giving them to uh nonprofits. Um information, you know, I when u Jeffrey Lewis was up here, I referred to, you know, his chart about people that they helped and how they helped them. Now, obviously, you can't be naming people. Okay. Um but, um basically, we're we're spending money that's meant for housing programs in the city of Turlock. Uh, and after that money is spent, we give it to an organization. And as far as I know or have seen in the seven years I've been coming, we don't get really any presentations about what the benefit to the community is. Okay? Both from the people who are helped, okay, um, and from the um, uh, rental money that the, uh, organization gets to keep. Now, in some cases, like with u we care for their forplexes on um Lambert Way, um you know, they've been told that, you know, the rental money they get helps

them, you know, with their operational costs for their shelter. Um I believe that United Samaritans Foundation is uh uh you know, for the places here, we kind of know where some of that money is is spent. Okay. But for organizations outside of um Turlock, what benefit does the city of Turlock get, the residents of the city of Turlock get from that rental money that they get to have that they get to have because we spent hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars that could have been spent in other ways. Okay. Um so that's one question I have. So, I also had a wild out of the box uh thought that if you wanted to, since these places were next to each other, you could have um perhaps um turned the garages into ADUs. There's enough room in the backyards for uh at least a one-bedroom, if not two-bedroom ADU, and perhaps you could have a complex there that uh you could work with the county and or the school board. Uh I'm I'm told that there's a fair number of homeless um children, teenagers, uh or like Mary Jackson was talking about elderly people.

So, thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Okay, we're going to close the public comment. Dr. Burrigo, will you want to answer before the vote, please, if you don't mind? No, I don't.

Thank you. Um I want to say this in the least offensive way. Um, you heard these properties have been sitting here for multiple years. The housing staff is just over a year old done that are working on these properties. They spent months digging out properties that the city had made loans on and people had passed away. And I mean, those files are in boxes. These houses were sitting empty when I got here in March. And Jennifer will she's smile about it today, but she wasn't. She told me that the first property was going to go for sale in March of 206. And I was like, "Oh, no, wait. We can't do that. I'd like them all for sale or donation by December of 25." And she managed not to throw anything at me. Um, but that staff worked really hard to be able to sell the houses we could sell and put homeowners in. And we will only I I've mentioned those at every uh in every report I've done with the real benefit one that makes me get chokey still is the woman who got keys for she and her husband. I mean she and her 16-year-old son

um just right around the holidays. Um, the houses that were bought, I don't I don't care if the house is $450,470 400,000. Those are not first-time home buyer homes. Even with $100,000 down, we're still talking about $350,000 homes for people who don't fiscally qualify. The second thing about these funds are and you know I mean you don't know my politics but I'm as blue as you get and I have started to wonder if we spend more money managing HUD than HUD puts into communities because our staff tie themselves in knots.

I will also say there is no uh there was no staff paid to manage those loans. In fact, the 20 million you mentioned is consortium money that the mayor backed out of. When I first heard she said backed out of the leadership, I just thought, "Oh man, why would anybody do that?" Well, today I know a bunch of that money was put out into projects and rolled back because they couldn't make it happen. And when you talk about that money sitting there for six years or so, it is, but it is also county money that Turlock was paying to manage. Um, we were paying for these houses. That house on Jason, uh, we bought a we we bought a house with, um, with a monthly HOA fee, which is also again not something you want to mess with with first-time home buyers. So, the longer they sat, the more they got torn up, the more we had to put into them. And frankly, I briefed council to say we [clears throat] will move them as quickly as we can for the populations targeted. Um, I'm really pleased that they we we did a first round of RFPs and we didn't get nonprofits that wanted them. So, we did a second round of RFPs and and got the two going there. So anyway, I just wanted to say there's some really complex history around that money and I will say you lied if you quote me on what I said about HUD. Thank you. [laughter and snorts]

Um, with that said, you know, I'm always a credit goes where credit due is due person. And you, Miss Figueroa, and you, Dr. Burggo, my daddy would say she grabbed that bull by the horns when she got here and has cleaned up quite the mess in your department. And I know you were pulling your hair out like less than a year ago. So, thank you. Job well done, Sue. Thank you. Truly, that was an undertaking and you guys did it. So, what's the will of council? Move to approve. Second. There's a motion, Madam Clerk. Council member Abram. Yes. Council member Bixel. Yes. Vice Mayor Mendes. Yes. And council member Phillips.

Yes. Passes 40. Okay. No, mayor. All right. Moving on to 11D. Uh, Mr. Marino, it's your turn again. You have a lot of turns tonight, sir.

Woohoo. Come on. Thank you, council members. The item we have before you is a presentation and a request to develop a new business incentive program revolving around capital facility fees reduction. So just a little history of the overall um we've talked briefly about as even mentioned in the city manager report that we done a study as far as how we can better do our economic development strategies and how we do proceed in the future. One of the items that was called out within that report that's posted on the city's website is to develop a business incentive program um to be able to entice new development um going forward. Um so this program is here to help assist with that. So the business center program capital facility fees reduction. We're going to discuss what are capital facility fees proposed CFF is traditionally called what we call them reduction program and how that's going to structure. Uh why would council consider a fee reduction? I mean coming from the financial director that's going to be a little odd, right? I mean like nope don't do that but and examples of why this program and how it makes sense. Um so capital facility fees. So capital facility fees are basically a form of what we call impact fees. Uh impact fees are established and and charge to new development um for purchasing over overall when they do new construction. What it does is allow us to do infrastructure needs from the impacts of the development that are coming in. Some example of the programs that we currently have um of impact fees is east walling master plan. We have the westside industrial specific plan, northwest triangle master plan, Morgan Ranch development fee impacts, uh, north tollock development impact fees and also park sewer and infrastructure. These fees and programs are developed and in excess to be able to one make sure that

the impacts of these developments are actually maintained from an infrastructure standpoint whether that's public safety or some kind of um sewer water infrastructure or even roads. Okay. [snorts] proposed CFF reduction program. So just to understand a little bit what how the program is going to be structured, we'll first talk about how the actual information is presented. So for a CFF that has multiple components. The first was then they developed or the adopted report you have what we call the land category. So you're going to kind of see me step into what it all looks like. So the land category consists of residential, commercial, retail, commercial, other, and industrial. it now tapers down into uh the fee areas. So, one category is downtown PPPA. Uh PPA actually stands for and I had to make sure I write it down because it's not a common use. Predestrian priority area as well as master plan areas and then city infill. All this comes into junction and how the fees are actually calculated. The next step in tear down is actually for the facility category, public facility categories. This is now broken down even further into actually where the rates are going to be developed for transportation, general government, public safety and fire. [snorts] The program itself again the program itself in essence is developed around business incentive program. So what is being proposed today is to identify those items within the report that actually identify commercial retail, commercial other and actually industrial. Why these items? So there is again a re a residential component to the thing, but we really want to focus on with this program um a business incentive program overall. I think there's different things that you can do for um residential, but for today we're really talking about this. I I really want to stress that I think this is the beginning of how we do economic development today and we're going to take different steps going forward and how we make strides to make things uh

more enticing from a city-wide perspective on how we do things. proposity fee reduction. So let me go back one more slide just to get a little bit of picture. So what we're proposing today and looking at the categories overall is a 25% reduction of those fees. So just to kind of pit that from a numbers perspective. Um these fees were actually adopted back in 2013. Within that time frame these fees have escalated from a quarterly basis up to today about close to 50% overall. So we looked at different ways to overall structure this program and it's going to do. We looked at the financial impacts of that percentage and all how it all came together and came to the formulation of what you see here before you today. Um because you can't set limitations and boundaries you really have to come down to more of a fiscal analysis of what these impacts may be. So one project and you'll see some of the examples in the letter presentation slide. You could have one major project that can really hit impact you overall since you can't set limitations or caps in the nature. You really have to make sure you control a little bit. So looking about what the growth of these fees have done over the period of time. We come to a conclusion of looking at 25% of more manageable from how we can take this on this program manage it going into the future but also make sure that we can mitigate any large impacts that may be coming forward. So to ensure that we can maintain this program, it's kind of a how we deal with the overall money and what it's doing. Yes, we are proposing a fee reduction within this impact fee structure or CFF, but to make sure that we or don't impact future improvements that are going to be required of us, we are proposing to request an appropriation of $500,000 coming from our fund 120 tourism. So what does that mean? So traditionally you don't you can make an action to reduce the fee but because we're we're diving around impact fees. So let's take impact fees and how they're collected.

Their intent is to make sure that we do improvements at a future date. If you don't backfill these dollars and down account for that what you're going to end up with is a downstream problem. So what you'll end up saying is a developer is going to come to you saying hey I gave you my money. You're supposed to be building this. Why haven't you built this? And if we don't collect the necessary fees to be able to come at a future date and do those thing those items, we end up with another different situation. So we really don't want to be in that overall. Um the the overall amount and how we came to that is looking at different proposed fees as far as what permits are being done. We looked at future ones. We looked at five-year lookbacks. We looked at a lot of different analysis to kind of come up with the information and came to the conclusion. We even started talking about well maybe more to get the program started. Uh really what we came down to is development itself is difficult to to try and suggest that when it's going to come in when it's going to occur is very difficult. Uh we may get an application today that may be going through the process because the developer is waiting for the perfect time to pull the trigger still assessing information still want to see what the project looks like trying to make sure the market is right. And you can be two months down or two years down the line and they're still talking about the project not foreseeing that we're holding the project up. just at this time it's not a priority for that developer. They may be focusing on another area or another project. So you can't predict when it's going to come in. You can really manage it, foresee it, help it grow and get get it to the finish line, but you can't really force the developer to actually pull the trigger. But but again, going back to what the intent is, we're hoping this will actually entice them to take advantage of what we're currently doing and the funds that are being available to them to be able to entice them to actually pull the trigger and pull those permits. So the funds are being requested to be pulled upon or pulled towards this program um and be issued during the permit process to the appropriate funds. So in other words, we go back to the categories of transportation and public safety. The funds will be allocated within the tourism fund from expense, but will not be actually allocated to the CFF programs until they're actually

impacted. So in other words, we're holding on to that dollar amount. We only utilize those dollar amounts when actually utilized from the program itself. Why would council consider a fee reduction? So fee reductions and the benefit overall of this program attract new businesses, right? What is the development itself always looked at? Um the ROI, the return on investment. It always comes back to the return on investment and how they can recoup their money and how fast. If it doesn't pencil, it's not going to make sense to them. Okay. Lower economic burden on construction and commercial coming out of COVID. We've all seen the spikes in constru construction. very expensive to to do things. The material market, whether you want to say tariffs or whatever it may be, has really gone um uh very high and spiked. Uh creates new jobs. One of the best impacts you can do from a is job creations. Why is that important? Creating new jobs, put backs into the community, creates more sales tax, allows people to afford new houses and things of that nature. Increase in sales tax and property tax. The general fund, what is the primary funding sources when it comes to the general fund? sales tax and property tax. By being able to find new mechanisms that we increase those overall revenue streams, we can produce the the actual services that we need to make sure that we maintain our budget, balance our budget, and add to our budget in future years. Some examples of the impacts. So, this example is drive-thru. Um, it is actually real numbers. It's not pre-calculated in some sense of the way. So their total impacts when we talked about those other plans and what it all looks like for impact fees um for this actual permit was 261,000 and some change the CFF total itself was 111,000. Now using this methodology of 25% you can see that their overall savings of the overall category would be very well about 31%. This table's wrong. Sorry for that. But you would see a reduction of this overall calculation close to

$30,000 that would have came after their overall program. The next one um you'll look at overall again the table's error as a commercial building itself as a warehouse. Their total impacts were 163,000 where their CFF was about 61,000. Um so you can see a reduction of 25% coming out of that that overall topic. not a large impact but what I'm trying to show you is a unit scale. All projects are different depending on what they are and how they get charged. So you may see some projects get a larger impact but you may see that you know there it helps a project um $7,000 $8,000 from a commercial project that's just basically a square box in a sense of the way can help them come to the fruition and make a better decision overall on when they want their project to come to fruition. So to kind of conclude the unit scale of how this is going to be managed and flattening it out makes the program a little more manageable but it also makes the benefit across the board for all business entities to come in. So regardless if you're doing a retail space or warehouse space any entity it's going to create some kind of increase in impact and benefit to the community is going to benefit from this overall program. Is there any questions? I have a question and this is more of a planning question so I don't know if director Werner can jump in perhaps but how you know okay thank you for including what community community facility fees are

generally what how are they calculated because you alluded to all projects are different right and it I assume it has to do with the size of the project and what type of use it's going to be So can you please elaborate on that? [snorts]

Sure. So in the staff report you'll see a table of how these fees are actually actually going to work. So the calculation themselves is set with what we call an adopted nexus report. This adopted Nexus report justifies how the calculations come together from the infrastructure is planned that needs to be done via this report. So let's take transportation. You need to do this road, this road, this road, this road and this road, right? regardless of what it is, they come up with that dollar amount and that becomes into the impact of the rates that needs to be collected. Now, it's actually re restructured in the sense of what is the actual type of business that you're actually impacted. Um, for example, a gas station is going to trigger a different transportation amount versus a small you office complex, right? Their impacts are different. So they're generally gone through the nexus report given information as far as what their impacts and that's how they justify the overall overlapping of how it it comes together from the formulation of the dollar amount and they even break it down from areas right so some areas let's call Monavista crassing you're going to have different impacts of what that all looks like so it comes down to what the project type is the general area and what projects need to be funded

okay so I'm hearing that the calculation really depends on you know the impact that they're going to have. Mhm. Um so would it be fair to say that you know the the goals that you listed there that you know why would council consider this sales tax workforce new businesses etc. There's not necessarily a direct correlation between like a very intensive use that could get a very big dollar amount in this fee reduction but doesn't necessarily include a lot of jobs or maybe it isn't a new a new use or something like that. It's it's a little apples to oranges.

It it does in a sense in the way that the biggest category in there as far as what your fee is going to be is going to be your transportation. So let's take a large impact warehouse, large distributor, constant trucks, in and out that is going to categorize a little bit higher where your rates are higher and their impacts are higher. So by categorize them into those type of facilities, you try to capture as much as the impact overall to cover those costs and what they're actually impacting the community. So the the next report does try to capture that sense of the way, but it can't capture and break down into every single little unit. Right? So in this case, a warehouse structure that falls into that category, if this usage is still the same to depending on what it looks like, you may have a different use because of the commodity or how it's being utilized, the impact may be a little different for that. But given how you structure the fee, you can't really break it down to a billion different types in a sense of the way of how the fee is going to be calculated.

I hope that answers. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Can you and this may not make sense coming from somebody not very smart we're spending half million dollars correct what do you see the time frame to see the return on investment from this for the city

so the majority of the projects we looked at and how because I came out from a financial structure too as well right I see for what we put in how is it going to come back and we talked about that as far as jobs creations um sales tax in you know property tax traditionally within the projects I saw the money flow back to where their benefit was to three to five years of how their sales tax potentially can drive in now because I can't specifically say this type gets this I can say this retail gets this retail gets this and they're all the same it's a little different on how that's going to flow but looking at some of the for example the item that we talked about as far as the retail at the drive-through location 3 to five years simple

and you also mentioned um possibly do some doing something for housing, you know, or for our uh residential development.

So, I think what you're going to see coming out in the future is a lot of different programs being looked at. Housing has specific programs such as CFDs and things of that nature that assist development. Um but we're going to look at a bigger picture in the sense of the way of how these things come together. So, another example is currently impact fees can be deferred for a period of five years. We already have this program in place. It's it's not successfully structured in the sense of the way where I think it'd be better utilized. So it's say we defer impact fees over to CFO for housing which we already do. So we already have some small program in place for housing in structure. But what I'm referring to is restructuring that program. So it makes more sense today. So what's happening in that program is you're getting industries factor. Okay, we're acting like the bank not not a major overall impact but they're also escalating that fee. So what I want to do is come back and create a new program. keep the same core intent but reduce that escalating factor on the fee and just charge that in factor and keep it simple and move it across the board. So when you're double structuring in that sense of the way you really just charge them twice in the sense of a rate increase. So we want to really simplify what that all looks like. But again it's really coming back to what the program is going to look like in the future and different types that can be utilized and different tools that can be utilized on different aspects of what we're doing. One of the things I want to add is you all have heard this um Turlock's not business friendly or it's hard to do business and I would say to you this is one step in a multi-pronged approach to begin to get word out that we are open for business. It's managed growth

um on our way to the next general plan uh process that that you'll get engaged in. and um this along with all of the work we did reviewing the processes and moving to online permitting. So, it's just multiple steps and trying to get word out that um we're open for business.

Yeah. I think one of the main things the caveat to that statement too is it's funny when Sue came in our city manager of the first thing she kept hearing is our fees are high. Our fees are high. Now, let me be frank. Developers are always going to say your fees are high, right? but doesn't mean we should not be business friendly in a sense of looking at our fees and this is kind of where that structure came from as far as how can we come back and do a business program. This is business incentive programs such as this are not abnormal. A lot of communities are doing them. Um they take management, they take time and they take financial interest um but they are feasible to be able to maintain and move forward. Thank you council member. All right, let's open it to the public. Oh, I'm sorry.

Can I can I just ask one more question? you um mentioned, you know, the budget allocation of $500,000 from the tourism fund. Can you clarify how much how much is there? How long could this go?

So, within the document itself, the resolution we're adopting, it says we're going to look at it from an annual basis. I go back to how development flows and when it comes in, you can't predict of when this utilized funds are going to be utilized. Again, you can get a major project and blow this money out within tomorrow. I mean that's not going to happen given what we're seeing but it could occur. So you really have to manage it from a monthly belief basis and see where it's all coming from. The budget is a trigger to have that conversation per the resolution but it's not the end all and see all if I see Finance going to manage these money as they go out. If I see let's say we come to a certain dollar amount say hey we really need to have a conversation if we're going to continue this program or not. The next trigger again within the document itself talks about how old this document is the CFF Nexus report. So the trigger again to have the conversation about where this program is going to go and what our fees are is actually to get the fee the fee program updated. Let's talk about some real information real time data of what the numbers are supposed to be and let's have that conversation again. So that's the next specific it's multiple going through this is not the end all of all programs. I'm saying this is a beginning to become business incentive programs friendly but also look at our fee structures as a whole.

Thank you. Nuts and bolts though like how much money is in the tourism fund and what is the reg like revenue regularly? So the tourism fund is from a reserve perspective coming out of prior fix of the years is about 1.2. Um so can it sustain this program looking at past histories utilizing these funds would take close to a year. Again that could fluctuate to two years depending on how things come in but that's why you really got to manage it. Okay. Thank you. No, sorry. It's all good. All right, let's open it to the public. Anybody in the public wishing to speak on this item?

Closing the public comment. Nobody wants to talk to you about this it item. Mr. Marino, Mr. Petrolas, do you want to talk about this item? No. Okay. [laughter] Excellent. What's the will of council?

Well, I want to talk about this item. Um I [laughter] I um yes I very much want to participate in dispelling the decadesl long turlock is hard blah blah blah. Um and and I'm really glad that Dr. Bergo mentioned the economic development strategic plan because we did that. It hasn't actually come to council to my knowledge and for me this item right now is a little bit premature because you know in our conversations ahead of time you know and you alluded to it now that like this is part of a larger kind of policy kind of thing. I I want to have those larger policy conversations of like what are the tools out there and you know what are our specific goals and I you know I was informed that our economic strategic plan is online and you know I would point to it where it says you know before you do any any new programs make specific goals. Do you want to help small business? Do you want to expand job creation? Um etc. And you know, just the fact that I I know that there are legal reasons why we had to just say 25% across the board, but I have a little bit of trouble saying that, okay, we could have a a development that is not a very big tax, you know, uh sales tax provider and maybe does not create a lot of jobs, but could because of their impacts use up a lot of this subsidy. And so I I I am a I want I want more I want to hear more alternatives before I I want to you know because we're I think you know this is a little bit of creating a liability right I think that it's going to be hard to raise fees

again and to roll this this reduction back and you know again go back to my earlier comment we have limited resources right so I I want to see a little bit more [clears throat] is that a motion what kind of motion is I'm going to second it. Whatever it is, but what kind of motion is that? Uh, you know, because I agree with you. It's a little bit premature. I I I I I concur with everything that just came out of your mouth.

Well, I mean, I I would move to uh table this item and to I mean, at the very least bring back the economic development plan because I want to hear more about what the tools are that we paid the consultant to tell us about um and for all of us to be able to talk about what our our priorities are and how we can achieve them. Mr. Petrolus, can I do that? I was conferring with the clerk. So, if you could repeat your question. I think you caught me conferring with the clerk probably is the way to put it. Yep. Can you do what? Can we table it? Yeah. I I I would prefer a date certain, you know.

How much time do you need and how much time do you want? Because I I feel we're we need a little bit more data, too. So, you think one meeting or two? I well I mean I would want to defer to staff on how long will it you know I know that there a lot of work went into this so I do not want to you know say please make a whole new plan in in two weeks but you know I I want to see the consultant that we paid about our economic development um so can we say table until no later of to a time [snorts] can we say the second meeting in February is that is that enough time because I don't want to I don't want to discredit and discount the work that's that staff and the efforts that staff have put into this because it's big. Yeah,

we [snorts] see that. I see that. So, you could table it that way. And despite that, I didn't want to talk about it. I I'll give you this framework for it as you consider it in the future because we had special counsel work this up. and I talked to her last week and so um this has been very thoughtfully done but there's limits on what the city can do because what happens is this goes really to council members Abram's sort of line of questioning which is it'd be very tempting for a city to get really excited about the new major league baseball st stadium right sure and roll out the red carpet but in California cities get in trouble when they do that

you can't really pick winners and losers because it it

you will take a private project and then inadvertently make it a prevailing wage project for example right the whole you know which most private develop I mean big projects you know they're usually paying prevailing wage but you know you can trigger that in situations where uh the applicant you know the the project sponsor doesn't want it and so really the flexibility is in two areas you you can um you so you can't basically pick winners winners and losers within a category. Your fee program has a number of categories of how the fee is uh charged like you know of retail and industrial and you know different categories. You can pick different categories you know within the categories you know if you like one category over another you would have flexibility there. The other flexibility is you have a number of uh capital facility fees like for roads you know Isaac mentioned mostly it's roads you know probably have police station fire station you know that kind of thing you can also pick in those categories you know the subsidy could not the subsidy the fee reduction very important that I use that phrase because that's that's how it's done the the fee reduction can be in certain categories of the fee applied to certain cate categories of development. So that's where your maybe some of your flexibility comes in. So

but let them know if you want to see that because that's that's enough time. Does that give him enough? Is that enough time? Okay. So motion to table this item until the second meeting in February. Second. Council member Abram. Yes. Council member Bixel. Yes. Vice Mayor Mones. Yes. Council member Phillips.

Yes. Thank you. It passes 4. Okay. Moving on. Uh folks, I pulled item 11E from the agenda or it was pulled this evening. Um I'm happy to open public comment. Is anybody here on 11E wishing to speak? Okay. Closing public comment on 11E. Moving on to 11F. Mr. Fiser, you get another turn, too. [snorts] Good evening again. The item you have before you tonight is for the purchase of water meters. Um, this item requests the city council to approve an agreement with Badger Meter for the purchase of water meters. Authorize a contract of four years with an optional one-year extension. Approve a not to exceed contract amount of 6,218,33428. Um the agreement identifies the city contract 2026119 as the result of RFP number 25-010. All costs will be expensed from 1420 water. Um purpose of this is the city operates and maintains a municipal water distribution system serving residents, commercial um commercial businesses, industrial customers. Portions of the city's existing water meter inventory um are nearing the end of their useful life. Um, we're looking at a larger project of replacing all the meters and in metering infrastructure. This allows us to purchase the water meters directly and avoid markup charges for any of the contractors. Um, advances, you know, the advances in water meter technology provide improved efficiency, accuracy and reliability. replacing them really it benefits us because it gives us accurate water billing, improve monitoring, um improves our water conservation efforts and aids us with our ongoing regulatory compliance. In December December 12th of 2025, we

issued RP25010 to procure the water meters. We were met with seven proposals we received from the following firms meter and valve control badger meter iFlow Ferguson waterworks metron I can't remember all seven of them next meters and cassie flow control um an evaluation committee reviewed and scored proposals based on the criteria outlined in the RFP which was technical qualifications experience product performance reliability cost and overall value references and past performance Badger Meter Incorporated received the highest overall score and was determined to provide the best overall value to the city. Scope of the agreement provides purchase of water meters as on an as needed basis over the contract term. These meters will be used to support the systemwide replacement and the upgrade efforts. Um the agreement establishes pricing terms and condition for future purchases during the contract period. There is no guaranteed minimum purchase requirement. um purchase will be made based on operational needs and available funding. The um it is anticipated that we will be used approximately 500,000 um this fiscal year 2526 um all costs will be expensed 420 sufficient funds remain um future expenditures will be requested through the normal budgeting process and there is no general impact fund and that concludes my presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions about it. So this is just purchasing the water meters. They will be installed by city staff.

Um they'll be in conjunction with city staff on an as needed basis, but they will be used to support the larger infrastructure replacement um program that will be bring back to the council. Okay. Very soon. And you know, even though it's we're a long away from COVID, but like procuring things has taken time. Are these available? we can order one tomorrow and you can get what you need right away. Most of the meters are within two weeks. There are some of the larger um mag meters that will take like four to six weeks. Some of them might be a 20we lead time, but that's pretty standard with the very large meters. We don't anticipate the bulk of this to replace the very large meters. They're going to be the residential meters.

Okay. And this is going to ultimately address the gentleman's concern that we had at public comment, [laughter] right, of That's a great question. Yeah. This is the first step in this very, very big project that we're excited to bring to you. Okay. So excited. I I can't wait for the other steps because I want that to not happen anymore. So, let's get this wrote on the show. [laughter] [gasps] Council member, council member. No, let's open it to the public. Anybody wishing to speak on this island item? Come on up, John. Say something good.

Nothing to say. It's just uh how much is it going to cost the individual thing if you know, you know, uh is it going to be a one-time fee or a monthly fee or is it not going to cost us anything? And I'm just curiosity. Is it I mean when we replace the meters what was that 20 years ago or whatever they had to come in and do quite a bit of work. Is this going to be just swapping them out or is it more involved than that when they do it? Sure.

Yes. I do recall when we uh replaced the meters or when we initially got the meters, it was done just house by house which really made it convenient because [clears throat] it saves time and I believe it was the company itself that did the installation. So, do we have the manpower to do these industrialized meters to put these industrialsized meters into operation? And is it just going to be a hit and miss? Are we going to go down a street and complete like we complete one street at one time? We don't just go from this street to that street to, you know, that's um a concern. I think we want to make it efficient. We don't want to waste money or have our staff waste time because they have to run all over town instead of just doing it one after another and making it kind of a a roll. That's my question. Thank you.

Anybody else? All right, closing public comment. Are you down for some organized chaos or how are we going to do this?

Oh, yeah. Um, the larger project's currently in design and it's in it's to me to do just that. We're going to fix all of the failing AMIs we have right now. And the first in the next sections will be a strategic deployment. It'll be done by the contractor. Yes. Um your other question is if any large meters can be done by staff. They're so small um in numbers. They can easily be done by staff and program by staff. So we can do those on an as needed basis. Um with the majority of the me the water meters being the residential that we're going to be replacing. Um the cost um the cost will be observed in our current budget. Um, I don't I I I don't think I can't think of the exact number per meter or exact dollar amount per meter, but they're they're nominal in price when it compared to their lifespan. I think that, you know, the average price of them about $300 um per house per meter. Um, and then swapping them out. that will be basically we'll be unbolting your meter current meter in your meter boxes in the front and replacing with a new one fitting a new AMI system to that and and possibly changing the lid depending on what kind of meter that you have.

Thank you. Follow-up question. Perhaps I misunderstood. I think Mr. Gabeline's question was how much is it going to cost the user to get a new water meter? That's not 300 per That's the cost of the meter. So that's the cost to us. Yeah. Yeah, the I mean I I I couldn't give you that. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. I think it's through. We have a a firm scope and an engineer's estimate. Or for further clarification, are you talking Okay, so at my house, I get a new meter. Am I build for that meter? No, you won't be built for that. That was the question. And if and if we had a $300 cost of a meter, is somebody going to get smacked with a $300 bonus on their bill? Just me? Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.

Sure. She's so nice. Only one. Yeah, just one. Just me. Good. Yes. All right. What's the move to approve? Second, Madam Clerk. Council member Abram. Yes. Council member Pixel. Yes. Vice Mayor MZ. Yes. Council member Phillips. Yes. Thank you. Passes for zero. And Mr. Fischer, why don't you stay right there? Bring it on home.

All right. Um, tonight I want to talk [clears throat] again about city project 2517, speed lumps at Berkeley roundabouts. Um, the city project 2517 proposed installing speed lumps at at two locations along the Berkeley Avenue um to reduce excessive speeds while maintaining emergency access. Some residents have reported ongoing speed and collision concerns at Berkeley roundabouts. project was previously presented at the last meeting on January 13 and it was brought back to uh for further discussion and clarification. Um the item is returning with additional context uh focus on traffic behavior, safety data and risk consideration to support the council deliberation. As discussed um there's a disproportionate amount or disproportional amount of accidents that happen at the Chandler intersection. in the northbound lane at Berkeley and Channer they represent about 60% 63% of the all reported crashes in the Springer um was a representative of about 21% and dancer at 16%. We additionally we looked at computer aided dispatch records and the res and resident provided videos indicate additional crashes that um did not meet the reporting criteria but we didn't account for those in that data because it was unreliable amongst the other ones. Um the data reflects um a localized issue rather than a corridor wide program or wide pattern. The next slides will be focusing on the speed data and the driver habits. All the speeds listed are the monthly median speeds, the 85th percentile, which is what we commonly use when we're looking at traffic patterns and safety. All the data is derived from urban SDK software and is representative of an 18month timeline. So it goes back about 18 months. We start in May of 24 and we haven't got January's numbers in. So we ended December of 25. We looked at three different parameters on all the six traffic circle entry points on the Berkeley corridor. So three northbound, three southbound. Um

what we found was um that five of the six represented the same overall pattern. Now if you look at the at the graph here, we we looked at the approach speeds which is the yellow line on the left hand. Um the entry speeds is the the point at which they should have already be slowed down to make the entry into the into the circle and the entry speeds. This is indicative of the five of the six. Um so all of them except for the northbound um entry into into Chandler. What you see here is you have um your your approach speeds. Um that's in the blue that's represented um at that point they're beginning to decelerate. Um and what we would see in the entry speeds and the 80 that would be the red we see that they have decelerated to a point where it's they should be um you know indicated and then following through the traffic circle they they're accel they they've accelerated through the through the intersection at the apex of the curve. So, what it says is is they've entered the corridor, they've decelerated, they're aware, they're making entry into the into the intersection um with, you know, reduced speeds as far as what we want them to do in those in those corridors. The next slide represents Berkeley and Chander intersection and this is for the northbound side. Um the main difference on this one to all the rest is the entry speeds in the red. Um they're significantly higher um where they were the lowest on the on the other in the other um intersections. And it really demonstrates a lack of speed control and the drivers are decelerating all the way through the entire intersection. Meaning they're never reaching a spot um which in which they feel comfortable to enter the intersection. and they're just moving all the way through it and and breaking the entire time which indicates the same which we see approach speeds are about 25% higher at this intersection than all

the other intersections and then the the entry speeds are about 12% higher than that of all the other intersections. Um demonstrates that drivers are driving faster, breaking late uh breaking later and navigating with a lesser degree of control. The area indicated by the two blue arrows represents a period where the temporary speed bump is the stalled. Um and like we discussed last time, the initial effect was that it lowered the overall speeds, but as the drivers got acclimated to that, um they begin to creep up in speeds. And then the second blue arrow on the right is when the temporary speed bumps were removed and you can see that the behavior went back to the way it was prior to that, which being 25% of the other one, you know, of the other intersections. Um we also discussed last time that the city has made significant visibility improvements and helped they have helped with the awareness. Um they did not really influence the speed data. Um those improvements went in before the speed bumps where you can see the speed bumps influence the speed data and if they did they did very slightly and it was really you know it was very difficult to tell um which speed lumps provided um become less effective and began to and they and they actually began to fail at that point because the speeds were so high um some of the bolts came loose and there was some concerns with some motorcycle drivers and water. the speed lumps. Um they'll provide a permanent solution. Um they'll be better option than what was currently what was temporarily installed. Um staff is recommending that we award the bid and approve the agreement with dynamic pavement for the project. Um and also determine the project is from SQA. Um this concludes my presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, council member. Yes. So can you clarify what a lump is compared to a bump? [laughter] And it's not going to be a hump. And it's different than what was there before. And not to be confused [clears throat] with a bump,

right? A speed bump is is a a shorter, narrower ramp. It typically is a noisier process. It's really meant for um really slow areas like parking lots and those types of things. Uh a speed bump is a little bit wider. Um and it's less um I guess offensive when the driver navigates it. um and it has slightly less noise when you're going over it because of the gra more gradual ramping. A speed lump is is designed to um allow for emergency vehicle access. It's split into three different sections. It's a lot wider. It might be a touch taller, but it's meant to really minimize the noise and make sure the emergency vehicle access can get through there um easily. Just to clarify, you showed the data for Berkeley and Dancer. That was less problematic than Berkeley and Chandler. But this item is for two lumps, right? One on the northbound Berkeley just south of Chandler and the other just south of Taylor.

Yeah. Indicated by the two yellow circles. Yes, that is correct. Yeah. Got it. Okay. And comparing what you're talking about putting in here, how does that compare with what is on West Towalamy? These would be a lot friendlier. Oh, yeah. This we can compare this one to the one that's in the POS. It'll be exactly that one.

Okay, good. Council member. All right, let's open it to the public. Mr. Mickelson, I know I've got lots of emails. Come on up, sir. I know you want to talk. I first want to say that um [clears throat] I don't like speed bumps or humps. I don't want any more in the city anywhere, certainly not in front of my house. Um where the noise would disturb the quality of my uh for me and my neighbors. Um, I'm also an owner who lives in a neighborhood on North Fork Playright. One or more of my neighbors complained about the speed and accidents at a nearby roundabout, requested the city to do something about it. Uh, the city has a traffic calming program for these requests that requires a procedure before putting speed bumps. Um, and I believe that should apply to my neighborhood. The city shouldn't have waved the those provisions put there to protect the city from charges of lack of concern for affected residents or the lack of transparency. Uh, it shouldn't matter if the complainers didn't specifically request a speed hump. The city decided for them. The bottom line is the city chose a hump in favor of one or more residents over others who are objecting or have objected uh without complying with its uh program or good business uh practice. who represented us

residents opposed to speed bumps when the executive team and the risk management team uh decided to back engineering's project. It's not right that the city bureaucracy can meet behind closed doors and say they know what's best for Turlock residents. Um we don't need their opinion, don't need to bother getting their input. In this case, it was decided to protect reckless drivers from themselves and certain property owners um to heck with responsible drivers who will be frustrated experiencing a a rough ride on Berkeley. A thousand or more a day. I don't know. to prove these humps this way is a black market, black mark. If the city wants to be known as uh fair and and transparent, um these bumps will not be very effective. Uh barely the the more severe temporary hump slowed traffic what five miles an hour and these aren't supposed to be, you know, as traumatic. There should be time to get the answers uh to the questions I've sent you and uh start the neighborhood and community involvement in the decision on the humps.

Please table or defer your funding until this happens. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Mickelson. Anybody else coming up? Uh you've given good evidence, Milt Treeweiler, you've given us good evidence that it's necessary to do something. So we know we need to do something. There's no question about that. And we don't want to spend $200,000 doing it. I don't know. You know, there are options in that regard. But you mentioned Twalamy. You mentioned it. Uh but you said Twaleamy didn't work. I go down Twaleamy and that works. I mean, I like Twalamy. I can't go over those more than 20 miles per hour and you know, it slows me down. I don't think you should put in 10 of them like they've done on Twalamy. It's a little bit overkill. I don't know what it does to the fire trucks. I don't I mean, obviously, they can get over them. It's not that bad at 20 miles per hour. You just, you know, just takes you over. So, I guess there are maybe three kinds of bumps in. the one that you put in temporarily, the one that you're talking about putting in, and the one that's on Twaleamy. I like the one on Twaleamy. I don't know why that wouldn't work, but something needs to be done because there's an issue there. Um, so we have to get it done. So, we just have to work out a solution.

Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Buffer. Long time no see.

Thank you, Bob Puffer. Tlock the what um of the 19 vehicles you had accidents with how many were four-wheel and how many were two wheel? Do we know? Uh I think twi Minnesota are horrible and they way overbuilt those humps. So if these ones that you're putting in at this one are a lot safer than retrofit and take out the old ones and put something that people can go down to wall. It's a collector street. It's not supposed to be a neighborhood residential street. Anyway, uh lastly, has anybody thought about putting dragon's teeth instead of a hump like at Costco where you go up to this, uh concrete and it has those dragons teeth over there so the kids won't ride their skateboards on it. That would wake a person up, tell them maybe slow down, and it certainly wouldn't be as uncomfortable as going over a bump or a hump or a rump or whatever you want to call it. [laughter] Thank you.

Anybody else? Come on up. Welcome. Thank you for having me. The opportunity to speak. Sure. 75. So I need to take my notes because I forget things really easily. All right.

Um, so I moved into the neighborhood about 17 years ago because I really loved the neighborhood. It was peaceful. It was quiet. U it's a wonderful place to live. You know, I even checked the backyard because Berkeley's busy, but I couldn't hear any noise whatsoever. So, I understand that uh and support the city's goal of traffic safety and also to uh appreciate the work that goes into protecting, you know, pedestrians uh alike. So, and I believe in in serving protect. I did 23 years with law enforcement, so I know what that's about. And safety is not the issue here for me, but the placement of the proposed uh speed bumps is what is. When the previous one was put in there, it's like right in front of my bedroom door, you know, and I mean um I know it's meant to slow people down, but one of the things is that Turlock has a lot of trucks. Now, when those people go over those bumps and the back of the bed hits, there's a clanging. All right? and it's a loud claim and most truck drivers figure out I can go over at this speed and and I'm good and then I can kind of go from there. Now, in relationship to that, a truck with a trailer, it's major noise. Major noise. So, uh, [sighs] so rather than really slowing them down, what really happened is that it just created louder and louder noises, you know, and it's right by my bedroom and I I'm a deep sleeper, but because of the clanging, it wakes me up a lot or it woke me up. It's gone now. I was so glad when they were gone. I'm going, "Thank you, Lord." You know, but out there resurfacing. I didn't know the whole process behind it because I didn't follow it. Uh it also interrupts the backyard now because we can be out there, you know, having barbecue or

something with the family or friends or whatever and all of a sudden you hear this clang and everybody goes, "What's that?" That's a truck in a trailer or a truck or whatever it might be. So, uh it's also, you know, selfishly, it's probably not a a great selling feature. Okay. And it could devaluate my property if I go to sell it. I just respectfully ask you to consider u is the speed bump the most appropriate solution at that specific uh location. Uh as you all know of the location prior to that there's a great big old soccer field there for Monter Vista Church and in that soccer field there's a lot of pedestrians out there. There's a lot of kids playing. A lot of times the soccer ball goes out in the street. just asking could relocating it there, you know, uh be more effective and also uh be able to, you know, reach your goal of what you're trying to do and to slow people down. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Um so anyway,

thank you. Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak? All right, we're going to close public comment. You got all those questions, Director Fischer? I think so. Do you need Director Lure for backup?

Yeah, probably. Regarding um the placement um the manual for uniform traffic code recommends a minimum distance of 100 feet from the from the hazard up to 300 feet from the hazard. 200 being the maximum the last placement was 200 feet the maximum and then also placing them forward takes them out of the corridor with the the current traffic calming devices um which is is problematic because the speeds are a little bit higher if you put them back back there. Um the question between two and four-wheel drive. Um they don't give that information on any of the reports. Um unless there is um and I I just didn't didn't look at it. Um dragon's teeth. Um I think at one point in time um they put the rumble strips in a point and the noise impact of that is is really significant. Um and it's definitely um much more significant than speed bump. Um, and you know, again, I'll reiterate that the speed lump design is meant to minimize the noise at least not possible.

And I think that was all of the questions. Did I miss one? No. The traffic calming procedure. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Does that apply? Yes. Yes. And the traffic common procedure, I mean, really at the point where the city is made aware of a safety issue. Um, it doesn't the traffic [snorts] common um procedure doesn't take away the um the city's authority to make changes when they see um so city cannot really responsibly outsource the safety responsibility to to a petition process when they and they have due notification of of a safety hazard. Very good.

Dr. Lur, anything to add? Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

Uh I know uh Director Fischer brought up 19 accidents within a fiveyear period. I was able to substantiate that there were 34 over a 10-year period. So that's almost three and a half accidents in that area um per year. Uh I did see the videos. Um, I I I've watched several videos from uh concerned residents at that location and you can clearly see vehicles flying through that roundabout, basically jumping through it. I did see a few of the videos go on to um the sidewalk areas and I know we had a gentleman here earlier talking about concerns for pedestrians. Um I thought um and you know there's definitely concerns safety concerns from my perspective which you know lends itself to liability concerns and as the risk management director um you know I've conferred with our RMA um and and so I think we've addressed the visibility issues Um, you heard data today, tonight that there's still speed concerns. Um, so I think, you know, I think it behooves us to put some sort of speed mechanism in place to to reduce the speeds through there.

Um, the other thing I wanted to mention, the [clears throat] crosswalk um is right at the entry zone of of these um roundabouts. Um, and as you heard, the speed going through there, they're not slowing down until they actually get into the circle part. And it's um I think that would be our worst uh nightmare is is a pedestrian walking through there either on the sidewalk or the the crosswalk and somebody get hit. It's probably going to be catastrophic. And uh just to defend one of these lawsuits is about $750,000. That's if we win. Um you know, we're hearing about nuclear verdict. So I'm very concerned from a risk management standpoint about not addressing the speed

and risk management concurs. This is the best course of action for the city. The RMA. The RMA. Yes. [clears throat] Thank you. Yeah. They're very supportive of it. Anybody else?

What's the will of council? Um, well, I I just wanted to comment, you know, I requested that this item be brought back and we got to flush this out a little bit and I I really appreciate you doing that and showing all of this. And, you know, I just want to say that we have traffic circles are supposed to be traffic calming, but traffic's not being calmed by them. So, we have an ineffective measure and we have to do more. And I I'm I'm very receptive to the concerns of noise. I do believe that this is going to be better than what they what the neighborhood has experienced before in terms of noise and and so I I think for the general good I think we have to have a lump in these two locations. So I will make a motion to approve.

Second. Council member Abram. Yes. Council member Bixel. Yes. Vice Mayor Mendes. Yes. Council member Phillips. Yes. Thank you. Passes 4. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate your work and your efforts. Uh, council member comments, announcements, and future items. Can we do them all together in one shot? I don't have any. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I just want to say welcome to our seven new firefighters. It's nice to have them on board. Council member,

Madame Clerk, we have 13. Item 13. A, public employee resignation, discipline, dismissal, release, California government code 54957. Conference of labor negotiations California government code 54957.6A agency designated representative interim city manager Sue Burggo employee organization is Turlock Management Association Public Safety. Thank you. We will report out if we need to.

All right. And we are back with nothing to report out. Good night.

Thank you all.