City Council - Regular Meeting

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Good evening, residents of Tulare and guests, Tulare City staff and fellow council members. Welcome to the Tulare City Council meeting for Tuesday, September 1st, 2026. As we start our meeting, we will have a Pledge of Allegiance and invocation. After the Pledge of Allegiance, if you'd please remain standing as Greg Peterson, pastor of Sunrise Community Church, will deliver an invocation. If you would please join me in our salute. Ready? Salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Will you guys pray with me? God, we thank you that you are here with us today, that Tulare matters to you. God, I thank you for each person who is here who serves our city. God, I pray that you just bless them with your wisdom and your guidance. Help them to speak in truth and in love. Help them to work for the betterment and unity of our community. Help our city to continue to be an amazing place to be raised, grow our family, and to live out our faith. Help our schools to continue to provide great education for our kids and bless the teachers and admin with the energy and patience that they need to bless our kids. Bless our businesses and agriculture to help them to continue to grow and flourish. And we pray for your protection over our first responders to give them the protection they need as they care for our great city. Give their homes a blessing of peace and joy. And Lord, we entrust this meeting and our leaders and our city into your care. Grant wisdom for the work before this great team. In your name we pray, Lord Jesus. Amen.

All right. With all council members present, wanted to present to council that we have an item on the agenda that also might have individuals here for general public comment. I would like to ask if the council, if there's a consensus, which is before public comment, to bring up item 9.1 at the start of the agenda.

Do we want to do that for general public comment?

Yes, that's what I'm asking. Okay. So with that, as we move up on the agenda, 9.1, which is a request to discuss a potential moratorium on data center permits submitted by Councilman Segala, just want to introduce this item that for those in the audience, I'd like to note that what this is, is only an action. to put that item specifically on the agenda and whether council should have that discussion in the future meeting. Tonight's discussion is not about the actual contents of the data center or debate or information related to that. It's to put it on the agenda. I'd also like to remind council that we had a similar discussion out on August 4th previously meeting and with that um with the new proposal submitted is the addition there are processes that would go that would have to facilitate in the city that would require site plan review environmental review public hearings and other such notions that go with that request with that um too as I want to open that up and pass this on to Councilman Sagala for your future agenda request for 9.1.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council. With this particular item, what I was wanting to get council support as you stated to put on a future agenda item for further discussion to see if the council is willing to support a 90-day moratorium i mean i've been thinking about that i mean that was what i put out there but but it's something a conversation will have if it does get agendas at the next meeting and then also a part of the request is also to ask staff um to provide information on what it would take if someone were to want to do a open up a data center in the city what does it take does it is it a ministerial process is it required to go to the planning commission does it ultimately come to the council so there's some of the things that i think in that 90-day moratorium we would explore and figure out Um, what would happen so so basically just as it is asking for this to be on the agenda and at that time we could have a more in depth further conversation. And I would imagine staff might have some more information on. One that's being proposed. It has nothing to do with what I'm asking. You know, it has nothing to do with the fairgrounds. This is happens. It just has to do with the city of Hillary. So I would appreciate support.

I I would make the motion after we if anybody in the public wants to provide public comment that's that would be the request so with that thank you Councilman Segala uh previously we did not have public comment on this item as the item was called to question uh with that is I will see if there's anybody in chambers who would like to speak on item 9.1 Good evening. Welcome. with that as the public approaches the microphone i do want to set the rules for the public comment and presentation is i will limit the public comment to three minutes per person and we will limit the presentation of public comment to 15 minutes unless otherwise extended by council so with that is setting the rules of the three minutes for any individual to speak and with that uh welcome and and good to have you at the city of tulare

Good evening city council members. My name is Carlos Rodriguez and I'm not a resident of Tulare. I'm from Porterville, but I work here in Tulare and I frequent Tulare. A lot of friends and family out here as well. Concerned as a neighbor about item 9.1. I think in general, A lot of people, you know, in the nation and in Tulare as well, we're struggling with utility bills already. We're struggling with a lot of issues, cost of gas, rent, groceries. And I think one thing that we can all agree on is that we don't want to have to worry about the quality of our water as well. We don't want to have to worry about all of the negative impacts that have been seen with areas that have unfortunately developed data centers. I think we deserve a city that hears us and brings us a better quality of living and not a worse one. And I appreciate the discussion here today to be able to address this before it becomes a more urgent issue. Yeah, I think that not only do we want, you know, a 90-day ban, I think we want a permanent ban on data centers. You know, this is not something that this community needs. If, unfortunately, somebody were to ever approach you all, I hope that, you know, you wouldn't, you know, believe any sort of deals about jobs or anything like that because the people of Tulare ultimately do not want the negatives that come with a data center. So, thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Good evening. Welcome.

Good evening. My name is Maria Guillen, and I live in Tulare County. And I have come to support and highly encourage you to vote for this proposed 90-day moratorium. one of the reasons one of the urgencies is the fact that there's already rumors out there that you're ready to already put in a data center without much um you know uh consideration to what the residents may be feeling or thinking and i think this would give a pause and and good faith to the folks that live here and that will be um uh detrimentally impacted by your decision uh if you were to go ahead without um getting more information so i really applaud um council member cigala for putting this forward um i want to share uh some words that i've recently i'm recycling some words that i've said before just to give you a flavor for what how i personally feel as an elder in the community I am a human being born in mid-20th century, trying my best to live in peace and harmony in the 21st century. But damn, it's not easy. And when I say that I need help, I mean I need other humans to help make good decisions that will impact me. I don't need artificial intelligence to strip me of my humanity by asking me to click that I'm not a bot at every turn. Bot that. I don't need surveillance. I don't want convenience more than my neighbors and I to have clean water. I gladly accept a washing machine to wash my clothes since it's a chore that I do not relish doing by hand. But why would I ever want a machine to generate a poem that is sitting in my heart waiting to come out? Do I want to be seduced by the chat GPT whispering to me? Ask me anything, or would I rather listen to an alto saxophone player awaken my soul with their musical talent honed by years of practice? I check on myself, not daily but regularly. I ask, am I resisting the temptation to receive a swag bag of goodies from corporations designed to distract me from their callous greed? Or am I part of the resistance that will never allow our health and safety to be compromised and endangered by the building of a data center? Thank goodness for the kitchen table wisdom. Thank the holy stars for front porch observation. And gracias a mis abuelos for some basic common sense. It doesn't take AI or a data generating center to understand that this is wrong for our community. Thank you.

Thank you for your comments. Good evening. Welcome.

Good evening. Good evening, Tulare City Council. My name is Jordan Hagaretta. I'm a resident of Portable, California, standing with the people of Tulare City. I also work in Tulare City. I am here regarding the proposal of future agenda item 9.1, requesting a discussion on the potential moratorium on data center permits. I was born and raised in the Central Valley, and I'm very concerned about the possibility of any AI data center in my backyard. Incorporating a data center into any of the surrounding Tulare County cities pulls from the same electrical grid, raising ratepayers bills, and setting a precedent for further data center investment. I will not sit by as our county devolves into some billionaire tech pros playground. The working families here in Tulare County are already struggling to make ends meet. Cost of gas, rent, utilities, and groceries, having us living paycheck to paycheck. And now we are threatened with the rising utility costs from data centers. Over the summer, I spoke with many families across the county. Many are in debt to companies like SoCal Edison and PG&E. data centers would be drawing from the same surrounding grid and have the potential to increase all of our bills. During August 4th's meeting, Tulare City Council Manager mentioned the 2006 APA convention. This three-day retreat's main topic was the proposal of data centers in the Central Valley. Companies like Southern California Edison were there selling investors on the idea of data center implementation, an industry that is primed to make their companies millions of dollars. A PG&E spokesperson recently talked at a Fresno Rotary Club event, claiming that data centers would lower ratepayers' bills. I'm here to tell you that I don't believe them, and I don't think you should either. We deserve a city that hears us and brings us in on all matters of quality of life. Opening up the discussion today is a great first step. We know you've been seeing the news footage surrounding fairground meetings. The people of Tulare and its neighboring cities do not want data centers. so my ask today and i'll be directing this uh towards council member uh dennis maderos since on august 4th he said quote why now why now mr sagala i am confused as to why we would address this issue now uh he also said and not one person has emailed me on this so i hope now you understand mr maderos uh the importance of this conversation uh council member madero stand with me and the rest of your constituents and move this council to ban data centers in your next uh city council meeting uh for this city and for the county in general all right thank you for your comments i did have a yellow card from carlos rodriguez

That was you already okay just making sure i've gotten in trouble so before assuming the same person is there anyone else in chambers there's still four minutes towards the time matt cook do we have anyone on the phone all right, thank you.

Mariana.

Yes, Hello, can you hear me. yeah go ahead okay. Good evening. My name is Mariana Alvarenga with Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability. We support Councilmember Segala's request to discuss a moratorium on data centers at a future City Council meeting. We are seeing more and more data centers approved throughout the country despite the negative environmental impacts associated with the construction and operation of data centers. For example, data centers can use about 360 million gallons of water while we continue to see groundwater depletion, which has contributed to residents wells going dry in the area. Data centers also contribute to air quality that lead to respiratory and cardiovascular diseases. Tulare already experiences poor air quality that will only be exacerbated if data centers are approved in the future. And lastly, the energy consumption is massive. One data center, for example, uses enough electricity to power about 100,000 households. Potential harm and threats to quality of life alone merit a robust public discussion. On August 18, the Tulare County Board of Supervisors has already passed a 45-day moratorium. We respectfully urge your support to direct staff to agendize a data center moratorium for discussion and action at your next regular scheduled meeting. Thank you.

All right, thank you. With the phone, do we have one more on the phone, Clarence? Okay, in time, I think with that, we'll go to the one first and we'll see about time after that.

Mateo.

Hello. Buenas tardes, everyone. My name is Mateo Fernandez. I actually live in Visalia and I'm a student at UCLA. Yesi right now, so I'm only home right now over the summer. But the idea of coming back after I graduate this next year with my bachelor's to a Central Valley that now has hundreds of data centers all over is very scary to me. It's all happening very quickly. I understand that this moratorium would only be to find information and then, I don't know, decide on a ban later on or decide that y'all love data centers later on. But I think just the conversations we've heard from the city planner who seem very pro AI make us very afraid that this is going to move super quickly. I know I'm not from the city of Tulare, but I'm in a neighboring city and our city's already considered a moratorium. And I think as neighbors, we should be working together because contamination of water, of air does not listen to zoning laws. It just doesn't. If there's anything that you pass that will affect the environment, it will affect all of us and vice versa. So I'm just here as a neighbor to ask that you please take the time to just slow things down, really learn about what could happen because the Central Valley is being targeted for data centers. Even if there are no specific proposals for the city of Tulare right now, there may be in the future. And I think it's important that everyone knows, okay, what is going to happen when that time comes. And yeah, I just appreciate y'all putting this on the agenda and hopefully the 45 day moratorium will be on the agenda next time. Thank you.

Thank you. With that, you said we have one more caller? Okay, go ahead.

Amy? Hello, I'm Amy Lopez and I'm a resident of Hanford, but I'm speaking up as a concerned neighbor. I was born here and raised in the community and I'm very concerned about the possibility of any construction of an AI data center in my backyard. The working families here in Tulare County are already struggling to make ends meet. Cost of gas, rent, utilities, and groceries have us living paycheck to paycheck. I'm also a college student, so looking towards the future generations, right? We deserve a city that hears us and brings us on matters of quality of life. Opening up the discussion today is a really great first step. I hope to hear more about it. Thank you so much.

um if i push the button right okay all right with that i'm going to stop the general um comment for 9.1 ladies and gentlemen public comment is next uh for the meeting and so with that i will go to council members um council member wow the comment was made to me uh you know when i said

Why now, Mr. Sagala? I think he understood what I was talking about. And during the course of my comments on August 4th, I specifically was going to the background of my training, which is that no matter what an issue is, that you don't deal with it until it actually comes before you and you have the necessary definitions of what it is you're dealing with. And that was why I wasn't taking a position one way or the other for data centers or against data centers. It was in light of what occurred at the fairgrounds that there was no need for us to take on an issue or discuss an issue that was not well defined and before us. To do otherwise would ask staff to speculate and to do nothing more than to a certain degree inflame others, not only in this community, but also around us. And substantially, I find it curious that as much as I respect all of your comments, over half of the comments that were made were from people who live outside the city of Tulare. Specifically, This issue has been significantly discussed by the public before the fairgrounds. And we had representatives from the city that were there. Mario was there. It also was discussed at the county and in other jurisdictions. But I firmly believe that we dealt with this on August 4, Council was clear that when the issue is ripe in this city and comes back before us, we'll tackle it then. But obviously, that wasn't good enough for at least one council member to bring it back once again and put out a call for everyone to show up and state their position. And I welcome all the comments that have been made. But it's not a position one way or another It's just that we're not in a position now to deal with a subject that really hasn't come before us. And finally, there will be, in about the 90 day period, two new council members sitting up here. And those council members will have an ability to make their own decision on whether to tackle whatever the issue is as it relates to what we call data centers or not. And what I have difficulty in doing is making decisions that will make their job that much more difficult. That's not my place at this point. I want to make decisions that will leave this community and this council in a position that is in the best interest of the city itself. I don't know why Mr. Segala chose Well, I don't want to speculate on that. The issue has come back before us. I have not changed my position from August 4th, and I don't think at this point we need to address an issue that really we're not even dealing with.

Mayor Mrakas, Okay, one of the or just as I was looking to the clerk to reiterate to is setting up the the rules amongst Council to have three minutes a piece on this on this item, if you if you choose to want to speak on it, so I just want to give the opportunity Councilman Sarah anything just different.

Councillor John Gallo, Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My position has not changed from the last meeting. I think it's premature to act or do anything with something that we don't know what it is or if it's even going to take place. This is one of five folders that I have at home that I've been reading on data centers. I read everything that I can find on the internet or anywhere else. So far, nothing has convinced me that we're going to get anything like that here in Tulare. So like I said, my position has not changed.

Councilman Segala, with your three minutes, anything you'd like? Yes.

I mean, I cannot make it any more clear than the fact that this is not about the fairgrounds. The fairgrounds is its own process. The city has no jurisdiction over it as far as we know now. What's being proposed today is us as an independent council representing City of Tulare residents. I have been approached by a lot of residents. I appreciate the people that have come to speak, but I've had my neighbors and Tulare residents reach out to me about this issue. A lot of them support it. What I'm asking for today is not to take a position on the fairgrounds. I've made it very, very clear and I don't want the waters to be muddied with the fairgrounds data center or whatever it is. This is about the city of Tulare. Being proactive. Yes, I know there are two candidates here and maybe the third listening regarding being on the city council, but we're here now. The fact that we need to act today about things and if Mr. Medeiros wants to defer all his important decisions to the next council member, then that's on him. But for me, it's about today, about leading today, about doing something today. All I'm asking for is that for the next 90 days, because I will be very frank, with my constituents, I don't know the process for a data center. If some gazillionaire, billionaire wanted to build one in Tulare, I am not clear how that works. I hope our staff does, but I, as a council member, am not clear is it a ministerial process, is it here you got to put a deposit down and now you can start doing all your paperwork, you got to go through this. I am not clear. So that for me is an issue. Like, hey, I want to understand if someone wants to build a data center in Tulare, what does it take? Is the council going to be involved? Because there are a lot of things that get built in the city that never come to council. They have their own processes. Is this one of those? I don't know. So I think for me, what I'm asking for is the opportunity to have a moratorium so nothing is issued in that time, give staff an opportunity to research what's going on, how it works. come back and have a study session. You know, if at that point, what Mr. Harrell reads or what is provided to us gives us an opinion as to, hey, we want to tell the world that Tulare is pro data center. We want to tell the world that Tulare is anti data center. We don't know. I'm not asking us to take a position. All I'm asking us is for the next, to put this on the agenda so that we can talk about a moratorium that will give staff enough time to research those important questions. So, you know, I'm, responding to what my constituents and others say, hey, that's a good idea. Now, it takes three votes to get that on the agenda, and I hope that we do have three votes to move forward. So with that, I know you need to say something, Mr. Mayor, but when you're ready, I will make the motion to approve this item.

If I could make one comment for clarification purposes. Anytime we want to find out what it takes on any issue from a planning standpoint or whatever it may be, all we have to do is make an appointment with staff and sit and meet with them and go over the intricacies of what it takes. Is that correct?

Correct.

OK. We don't need to go through an extended meeting and a study session for that purpose. And I would be all for that if we had something actually sought to be permitted in the city of Tulare. But we have nothing. As indicated, that's why my position hasn't changed. Sure.

Well, just for the record, I support open public forums. And so quickly, those questions can definitely be said in public.

Hearing the debate and positions of council members, is there a consensus? And I am not seeing a consensus. No, I did give Terry an opportunity to speak. With that, I mean, not seeing the consensus or the change in the vote. I think Councilman Segala, I think part of that and my thoughts is your request is putting an action item on the agenda. Would you be open that it's not the action item, but that it's a study session as you've sent? And I think a report from our staff of what, as you had said, what we are researching, that it could be under a general information item, under general information, that the public gets to hear the homework that is taking place. I'm not seeing a consensus towards your coming forth with an action immediately. And I think what I'm hearing from council is that action is not in front of us. However, sharing information with the public, presenting that to you, if you have this item, you would make that consensus that we would have a general information and share what that homework looks like.

So, Mr. Mayor, what I would propose to do is to bifurcate the item and ask for a roll call on agendizing the 90-day moratorium, and then I would ask for a roll call on agendizing the study session. So I would be okay with that. So I would ask that we first say whether we want to put the 90-day moratorium on the agenda for future agenda and let that go through the process, and then we can do the study session part as well. So that would be my record. That would be my request at this point.

I think towards that material, I'm not hearing that there is three votes.

Well, for the record, I just wanted. So for the record, I would ask the mayor to ask the council if there is consensus for a 90 day moratorium to be placed on a future agenda item.

I think everybody's indicated no.

So on the moratorium, it would be a 4 to 1 against that being moving forward, correct? Well, there's not a consensus. There's no second. Okay. So there's no action. So it's a 4 to 1 to not do that. So then the second item then I would be, would there be consensus to ask for a study session to try to get answers on number of planning processes or other things? So that would be the second item request.

So, would there be a consensus on a study session amending your request that there would be on the agenda to have a presentation or a study session towards those items of what's taking place? What are we looking at? And the questions that were asked, how would this process go?

Yes.

I have no problem with that. What is your preference? As to whether we do it after when there's 2 new council members sitting up here or or before I think would.

Put it on the agenda. We can just be on the agenda for that.

And then we can decide that.

I just want to be careful. We're not debating.

Oh, yeah. So, I think the consensus that I'm understanding would be that on the next council meeting, we would have a conversation about the study session. And then I think you're.

your question about do we wait for the next council which i don't know i'm just trying to be i'm just trying to be fair to them and i agree with you that i have no problems with that okay so gentlemen with this issue ladies and gentlemen of the council with this issue i'm with that and what i'm i'm understanding is that we would have on the agenda next John Potter, The motion in front of us, or the proposal in front of us and summary would be to have on the agenda to vote and go through an item which would be that study session. John Potter, Discussed that's okay so with that i'm seeing the consensus yeah so we go to a vote, but all in favor don't think just to confirm there's a five vote vote.

that's fine.

John Potter, Okay. Moving forward on our agenda, I'm going to go to public comment item three. Members of the public wishing to comment on any item not appearing on the agenda may address the City Council at this time. State law prevents Council from acting on any matter not on the agenda. However, your comments may be referred to staff for follow up. This is also the time for the public to comment on items listed under the consent calendar or to request an item from the consent calendar be pulled for discussion purposes. Please begin your comments by stating your name and providing your city of residence. For those that wish to provide public comment while attending the meeting remotely, press 9 on your phone to raise your hand or click Raise Hand in the webinar. So with that, Mr. Rodriguez, I did use your yellow card for 9.1 under that item. Looking if in the public comment, you're welcome for public comments. If it's other than would appreciate 9.1 moving forward, I'm going to start with the yellow cards I've received for general public comment. Mr. Bruce Young. Good evening, Mr. Young. Welcome.

Hello, my name is Bruce Young. I am from Tulare, California. I came here to talk about the Ralph M. Brown Act, California Governor Code, Section 54954.3, Section C. According to this, I have a right to criticize the council and all that they contract with. Last city council meeting, you omitted my speech to the council from public viewership, as well as in the live recording on the YouTube Afterplay, in which I criticized Todd Spillman for kicking my five-year-old out of her own public park. He is the owner of Spade Entertainment, who you do business with. I would now ask the council for the opportunity to reread my public statement so I can preserve my right to free speech and public comment.

OK.

I had an altercation at Zumwalt Park on Saturday, August 15th at 8.30 with Todd Spielman, CEO of Spade Entertainment and a police officer in which me and my five-year-old were forcefully removed from the public two to five-year-old park. I was asked by Mr. Spielman to leave the two to five-year-old park despite all assertions of who had a right to be where, I seem to be the only one with a child in the children's park. So I told him, call the cops, thinking that Tulare's best and finest had better things to be doing than harassing five-year-olds off of their public merry-go-rounds. I was mistaken. There's two things that need to be recognized about this situation. First, it's absurdity. Why is it warranted to send an armed police officer to the two to five year old public park at the behest of a 60 year old man and to have that officer side with the old man kicking the child out of her public park? two the problems laid bare by trying to run a public park as a private venue if it's a public park then the public deserves access is the spade entertainment and todd spillman's park or is this tillary city's park is this a public park or is this a private venue in light of these questions and these experiences i would like to make a proposal again to the council either one we split oh One we allow time on concert days say till 11am so parents can still access their public spaces or two we split off the children's section of zoom Walt park so that the public can have access to their public spaces. The council set precedents last week opening off their coffer, or now it's three weeks ago or four weeks ago, opening up to their coffers for handwritten letters from businesses owners representing 0.05% of Tulare's 74,000 residents. So my question to the city council is how many letters do I have to get you for you to give me public access to our parks or to give citizens public access to their parks?

And that's it. All right. Thank you, Mr. Young. Thank you. Does anyone else in chambers wish to make public comment? Madam Clerk, do we have anyone on the phone? No, I'm going with the phone. And then I'll come back to you.

Done it. Good evening, Mary Isherwood and members of Council. This is Donette Silva with the Tulare Chamber of Commerce and I'm just providing some updates. First of all, starting with a thank you for our private event, our State of the City and State of the County event. We had close to 400 people there and a great opportunity to share out information. We also want to remind everyone of upcoming events and activities within the community. Our Tulare Business Innovation Zone has a number of workshops that we're doing in both English and Spanish available, and we will have a Business Watch meeting at the end of the month. That meeting will focus on fraud and scams in the workplace. So please join us. Everything I refer to you'll be able to find on the Tulare Chamber website, tularechamber.org. and on our social media pages. So I'm not going to go into as many dates, but I just want to make you aware of all the activity that's coming up. We will be hosting Stephen Owen, our SBA regional advocate, in a couple of weeks to meet with various folks in the ag industry, as well as to present at Governmental Affairs. For our business after hours, that'll be hosted by Creativo, and that is going to be at TBIZ at 530 on the 17th. We have a number of ribbon cuttings. This is a lot of business celebration. This month will mark the 75th anniversary of the Tulare Hospital, and a celebration is planned by Adventist Health. Then we have starting this week and moving through the month, we have ribbon cuttings for TEDx Visalia, San Joaquin Valley Homes Siena, San Joaquin Valley Homes Mariposa, the Tulare County Fair, Bank of California, Relation Insurance, and Beauty Bar 613. We also want to remind everyone that we will be doing the Quilts for Patriots at the Tulare County Fair on opening day of September 16th. We have 33 veterans who will be recognized this year. We invite you to join us at 12 p.m. at the main stage for the ribbon cutting followed directly by the Quilts for Patriots ceremony. Very moving ceremony there. And of course, there is the Tulare Rotary 9-11 Memorial Blood Drive event. that is coming up and that will be happening. It is the 20th anniversary of the blood drive and of course the 25th anniversary of the attack on America. For more information on any of these activities, please refer to the Chamber's social media as well as our website. And we also will be welcoming 10 Leadership Tulare participants at a reception in a couple of weeks. You'll hear more information and more details about those folks. Thank you so much for the opportunity to share.

Thank you, Donette. Mr. Bender.

I want to commend Donette for being exactly three minutes as the timer indicated that she had that down pat.

Good evening.

See if Mr. Bender can do the same thing.

Probably not. Good evening, Mayor Isherwood, Council, staff, fellow citizens, Jason Bender Tulare. I guess I'd also like to thank Donette as my opening act. On behalf of the Tulare Rotary Club and the Central California Blood Center, we would like to invite you and the community to the Tulare Rotary 9-11 Memorial Blood Drive, the South Valley's largest community blood drive. on Friday, September 11th, from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. at the Tulare Veterans Memorial Building, 1771 East Tulare Avenue. This year, on America's 250th, will be the 25th year of remembering the events of 9-11 and the 20th year of the Tulare Rotary 9-11 Memorial Blood Drive. Over the past 19 years, we have had over 15,000 registered donors and collected over 11,300 pints of blood. The blood we have collected has had the potential to have saved up to 34,000 lives in our community. That's family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, and others in need throughout Central California, whether they be premature babies, trauma patients, cancer patients, surgical patients, or others in their time of need. Just this summer, the Red Cross declared its second-ever blood supply crisis, and the Central California Blood Center joined the U.S. Surgeon General's urgent call for donors due to the summer shortage. This is a perfect time to donate. Not only a blood drive, but also a ceremony. The City of Tulare Fire Department Honor Guard with AMVETS Post 56 presents the 9-11 Remembrance Ceremony at 7 a.m. It is an excellent way to start your morning. Now, how do you donate? You can walk in or you can make an appointment. Hopefully out in internet land, there should be a QR code on the screen. Next slide. And if you can't scan that, you can go to donateblood.org. Find Donate Blood, click on Schedule, enter in our zip code 93274, find our blood drive, and then click Schedule and fill in your information. Appointments are an excellent way to reserve a place. When you come, make sure that you have your photo ID. And we want you to have a good donation that day. We suggest that you hydrate well with water the day before and the day of. Limit your caffeine intake and have a meal before donating. If you're normally known to have low iron, have a high iron meal, including fish, spinach, quinoa, turkey, or beef. And if you're like maybe Councilmember Sayre or Vice Mayor Harrell, who's had a recent tattoo or piercing at a state-regulated facility that uses sterile single-use equipment, you can donate immediately, a new change in policy. When you do donate, you will receive an awesome silver 9-11 Memorial Blood Drive t-shirt with the logo there that you see at the top of the screen. The Tulare County Fairgrounds has provided an entry ticket. Galaxy Theaters has a movie ticket for the first 100 donors. Grocery Outlet has provided a pint for pint coupon. And Adventist Health Tulare has a limited number of flu shots. Couple more seconds. We'll have food all day. Tulare Kiwanis will serve pancakes and sausage in the morning. River Valley Church with Happel Annie's has a chicken dinner. And I hear there's Rosary Brothers ice cream for dessert. We're going to be visited by Black Bear Diner, who's serving pie cups. The Lemon Love Shack will have their tasty flavored beverages. And throughout the day, the Sikh Temple will be running the cantina with Dolby Domino's, Little Caesars, Mianeds, and Subway. We also have a raffle drawing every hour. And you can receive... Gift cards from multiple vendors throughout Tulare, including Rosa Brothers, Galaxy, Grocery Outlet, Mikey V's. And the only way we can be this good to our donors is thanks to our partners and sponsors. Many of them I've mentioned already. But I'd also like to thank the Tulare Chamber of Commerce, the Veterans Memorial District, Momentum Broadcasting, Land O' Lakes, JDH, Amdahl In-Home Health Care, Lane Engineers, Craig Vavida, Connie Conway, Tulare Republican Women Federated, Valley Strong Credit Union, Rob and Sherry Bell, Renee Soto State Farm Insurance, uh great new company damco i should say old company but great company uh central valley refrigeration fernjo farms alts is solar that and if you want to enjoy all of this tillary rotary 911 memorial bug drive friday september 11th 6 6 to 6 ceremony at 7. thank you mayor can you take a breath now is there anyone else in chambers who'd like to make public comment

Okay. Anyone back on the phone? All right. With that, I'm going to move forward on our agenda. Item four, communications. Mr. Thomas? No communications.

If we could invite those who wish to leave, this is a good, not that they want to, but I mean, if there's a break.

We don't want them to feel uncomfortable staying. This is a moment where you're welcome to leave if you'd like to. And as the Councilman said, you're surely welcome to stay, just addressing that issue. So, Thomas, perhaps you would enlighten, of course, those that we have left. You're in the hot seat tonight for communications. You're standing in for Mr. Mondale.

Yes, we have the same haircut, but we are different.

That's why I was confused. Yes, any communications?

No communications.

Okay. Item five, council reports and item of interest, Vice Mayor Harrell.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On the 20th of August, I attended the PD swearing in of some new officers here in the Council Chambers. 21st, the State of the City and the County. 27th, the VA Support Group with the Memorial Building. And the 31st, another swearing in of additional police officers here in the Council Chambers.

Councilman Segala.

Yeah, I just had a couple of things that I'd like to see. Maybe they're incorporating that in the weekly report or if staff can can get back to me on on the questions um first one is uh I think on Sunday was it Sunday I was out there Saturday I was on the ballot I ran into Mr Madero's better half uh Miss Kathy Maderos was promoting the event that uh Mr. Bender was talking about. But I was out there hanging out downtown waiting for folks to pick me up from the shopping spree they were on. But I had a chance to go around and talk to people in some of the businesses. A lot of folks were asking me the process and why were the benches, lots of benches removed and not replaced downtown. So I wanted to figure out if there was a way that I can find that out.

We'll find that out and either get it to you or get it in the weekly report.

Yeah, just to figure out why some of the benches haven't been replaced in downtown. And then the other thing, I did talk to Manny briefly, but I also would like to see if we can get a report about the process. We're glad that the new homeless shelter is open, but I was trying to understand the noticing and the process because the encampment has been totally wiped clean. I mean, it's been knocked down. And the other 1, yes, and I've noticed there's a lot more people out on the street and I think part of it is because they don't want to go to the new shelter. So they're out on the street again. So, um, I just had questions on what the noticing was where they given 30 day notice. 90 day notice is saying, hey, this thing's closing on whatever date. And you're out. So if I can get that information.

Yeah, we'll get a summary and weekly report on what the process had been over the past prior months of getting notice to the temporary encampment guests, as well as outreach that we're doing now on the street for folks that are there. Applications we have pending to come into the permanent shelter. And I'll see if we have data on folks who were at the encampment that maybe opted not to go into the shelter.

If you can also include the numbers, like how many you've actually...

know let's say there was 150 the encampment and only 100 transitioned to the shelter it's kind of those kind of numbers that would be helpful thank you mr medeiros on the 20th of august that is the date that that was the first swearing-in i attended that with the vice mayor on the uh I just want to make sure. And then on the 31st, that was the second swearing-in, Karen Chambers. I attended the police department swearing-in also. This morning, I served as interim chair. I substituted for the permanent chair and ran the meeting for the Citizens Advisory Committee of the San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District. We had our meeting. this morning. I was very informative and then was back for this meeting.

On the 6th, I attended the Includas Marketplace opening at Zumwalt Park, which was very well attended and I believe it has been since then every Thursday. On the 9th, I spoke at the Rotary Club concerning the Women's Clubhouse restoration. On the 24th, I was there at the Tulare Cares opening, welcoming guests into their new home. It was very heartwarming, especially several of the gentlemen that came through. I asked, what's the first thing you're going to do? And they said, take a 20-minute shower. because they get to have 20 minute showers hot ones and so they were just really looking forward to getting a shower getting into their facility and starting um a climate controlled existence and so i was really pleased to be there i've been attended every day since then just to see how things are progressing and more and more um guests are are coming into the facility uh if you haven't gone to see it i encourage you to go and see how it's progressing and then on the 27th i attended the downtown association's casino night and that was a lot of fun although councilman madaris wasn't there to help me uh at the blackjack table no i'll i'll confess can i confess mr mayor i i sponsored

And then my wife and I got involved in something else. And it just totally forgot about it. But I have been to the shelter a couple of different times just to see progress. But I do apologize for missing that event. It was very, very well run event.

Yeah, I appreciated the chance to speak at the State of the City hosted by the Chamber of Commerce and to present some notes on our departments and I think to present on some of the surely the wins that we've had and of course our financial stability. So a few events I missed too. My apologies, missed the pinning ceremony and a few other things in the community. Something about work. It made the schedule difficult. okay with that is uh moving on to item six our consent calendar all matters listed in the consent calendar are considered by the council to be routine and will be enacted in one motion without discussion if discussion is desired that item may be removed and considered separately uh mayor staff have a couple quick updates um yes we'd like to remove item six three

Um, from the agenda entirely. And then we'd like to pull items six, four and six, five to act separately. And we'll read in some corrections to the record.

Okay.

Council members and the other requests or actions just, uh, wanted to ask a couple of questions on 6.9.

Okay. So, so far, staff has requested to remove item 6.3, and then we have a poll of 6.4, 6.5, and 6.9. If there's no other items, does council have an action?

I'll move the consent calendar minus the items described by the mayor.

Second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Okay. Going first, 6.4.

6.4 and 6.5, the same thing here. We just like, we would like to remove the sections about bereavement and then approve the other components of it as is. And then staff will include an updated attachment in the reso for the record.

That will be approved.

Correct.

So, those are the only 2 changes on those 6.4 and 6.5 will stay as is except. For the deletion of bereavement, which will be dealt with at a later time.

Correct.

In that regard, unless there's some questions.

Yeah, I have a question. So is so were these in a goat?

So you have to go back to negotiate whatever the changes are going to be not negotiate, but with with the units, but staff need to do some review. Um, there's some wordsmithing that had some ambiguity. We want to resolve and then it'll go back to the units just as a meeting for opportunity. Um, but we don't anticipate any issues because it's straightforward.

Okay. And there's no timeline that has to be done by certain? No.

Okay.

I'll make a motion to follow recommendation of the Assistant City Manager and adopt 6.4 and 6.5 subject to the removal of the bereavement issue to be dealt with at a later time.

I'll second the motion.

We have a motion of approval for 6.4 and 6.5 as per the staff report recommendation. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Moving forward to 6.9, Mr. Segala.

Yes, my understanding this is an item regarding an annual street striping contract. Um, that I went out to bid and staffs recommending a particular company that fell within the bid guidelines. I guess the question I had a couple of questions and these particular. Contracts, um, are they exclusively to street. um sort of markings i mean would they could potentially expand to bike lanes and other things or bike lanes included yeah bike lanes are included in here so you can see it like midway through that first chart six inch bike lanes so we did identify bike lanes right and so i think uh i guess what i was trying to understand on that particular one was how how much i guess it's divided by linear feet which i'm not an engineer but i would imagine it's some kind of marking um how much is it how much is in this budget for bike lanes i i wasn't i know the total amount is Dave Kuntz, 260,000 is accurate yeah so much is it just by case by case or. Dave Kuntz, yeah whatever whatever draws the most money first. Dave Kuntz, How does that work.

Dave Kuntz, No, the streets manager and street supervisor drive through town and. determine the streets that need to be restriped. As soon as we get this contract in place, hopefully by the end of the week, we'll have them out in front of the fairgrounds because we have the fair coming up in two weeks. That's our priority place. But they drive around town and identify the streets. Um, where the markings are faded and so they identify that to the contractor and that's how the work is done. I will tell you the cross Avenue improvements. Uh, we got the plans from engineering. Um, and so that will be another item that will be on the list for the contractor sooner rather than later. So, as projects come up, but there are existing bike lanes already. So, those would get re, striped and then as council and engineering identify new bike lanes or new projects, we would incorporate that into.

I guess what I'm trying to, I guess what I'm trying to understand is, will there be enough funding? I know a couple years ago years ago, we talked about setting aside. I think it was a 50,000 dollars for bike lanes. You know, I think at that time I got incorporated in a budget somewhere, but the idea was to have funding to restripe existing ones and perhaps new ones. So what I was trying to figure out is how much could be carved out of this contract if bike lanes needed to be restriped and created.

Yeah, a majority of this contract is to restripe existing. So all of the faded as new projects come up and get approved, we would look for funding for that additional striping.

Okay. And the last question I have is, I know that Mr. Harrow worked very, very hard to get the stop sign on O. Oh, and then you know, and I've noticed that either there's a million cars driving by there and it's, it's deterred the paint. Is the quality of paint an issue with these contractors or, I mean, who striped that? Because it's been only a few months, but the paint looks like it's been there 100 years.

Yeah, it's not the quality of the paint or the striping. It's the milk trucks that have spilled milk over that paint. And so we're having issues. So we've already been in conversation with Land O'Lakes regarding this issue. We met with them. They are working to resolve it on their side. And we're trying to figure out how to get that grease up off of the road and then get it repainted. So it's a separate issue. It has nothing to do with the quality of the paint. It just has to do with that specific traffic going over. You're talking about the eastbound Inyo at O. That stop is completely gone in the stop bar. So we are aware of it and we're working to resolve that issue.

Thank you. Any other comments on 6.9 or proposed action?

If there are none, Mr. Mayor, then I would move to approve item 6.9.

Second. OK, motion and second. All in favor? Aye. 6.9 is approved. Moving forward to item 7, public hearing. Comments related to public hearing items are limited to three minutes per speaker for a maximum of 30 minutes per item, unless otherwise extended by council. Again, for those that wish to provide public comment, while attending the meeting remotely, press 9 on your phone to raise your hand or click Raise Hand in the webinar. 7.1, Resolution of Necessity for an Overhead Utility Easement. Mr. Gaffrey.

Thank you Council and thank you for your patience as we were waiting for the appraisal on this. This is a resolution of necessity to allow an overhang easement that the City would then dedicate over to Southern California Edison for part of a utility pole relocation. The developer in Edison had worked with the property owner separately to attempt to obtain the easement and we're running into trouble with that so we proceeded With a resolution of necessity as the next mechanism, um, and the property owner, uh, received a public hearing notice, um, to the address on file with the assessor via us mail.

Okay, with the staff report, I will go to public hearing. I will. Can I ask 1 question? Sure. There was there an appraisal on this property.

Yes, the city performed an appraisal. It was appraised at $2,100. The developer had offered the property owner $15,000.

So the appraisal was $2,100. The developer offered $15,000, and there's been no response. Correct.

John Potter, I will open the public hearing for 7.1 resolution of necessity for an overhead utility easement regarding APM 172 dash 370 dash 032 is there anyone in chambers who wishes to speak on this item. John Potter, Do we have anyone on the phone.

Okay.

John Potter, Mr American I just asked if the property owners here.

John Potter, Okay, thank you for.

Okay, with that, I will close the public hearing. Council members, any further questions on this item to staff?

I'll make a motion to adopt a resolution of necessity for APM 172370032, authorizing the city attorney to take the steps necessary, unfortunately, to finalize the acquisition of an overhead utility easement.

Second. Okay, we have a motion and second on 7.1, resolution of necessity for an overhead utility easement. All in favor?

I had a question before we voted. Usually we have discussion after a motion. Was that, did we change the process?

So I'm going to continue with the vote, but I will surely allow you to ask your question.

Well, the only question I have is...

I'm going to continue the vote. Well, I have no problem with him asking his question.

So I have a motion and I have a second. Okay, Mr. Segala.

I guess the question I was asking the city attorney. So there's two figures out there. The 2100, which it was appraised to be the cost. And then there's an offering by the developer, correct? It was 2100 and 15,000. With this particular action, what is the city's responsibility in regards to offering the The owner for for their property. Is it the appraised value, or is it the. Value that the developer has put out there. I mean, what is what it would be our responsibility in other words, we did this. Here's your we're acting eminent domain. Here's your 2100. Thank you. Or do we offer more than what it's appraised?

Well, so so that's that's really not going to. As part of the action that you're taking right now, you're not deciding that at all. You're just deciding whether the easement is necessary for the project. They're entitled to the appraised value. But in all likelihood, once we file something against them, they're going to come back and say, hey, we didn't know or we didn't understand or whatever it is. The city is not going to offer any more than the 21 because that's what the appraised value is. I think I don't, and I, we haven't talked, I haven't talked at least to the developer to see if they're still willing to offer anything more than that, but I'm sure in the circumstance they, they would be.

So at the end of the day, we're only responsible for 2100.

That's correct. Okay. It could be a considered a gift of funds to go over and above the appraised value though. Oftentimes there there's a responsibility under the code to provide the property owner with up to $5,000 for appraisal purposes. And a lot of times to cut to the chase. John Potter, that's dealt with in the discussions between the parties i've had that because i've been involved in that. John Potter, In the past, the talk from my experience, I want to step on the city attorney's toes of when you have an appraisal at $2,100 and the developers been willing to offer $15,000 I say it that way $15,000 somebody's being unreasonable. One could assume, I'm not going to say, but one could assume that that's the case. That's why I'm willing to make this motion and I'm glad somebody said it.

Well, I'm willing to vote for it if we stick to the 2100. I mean, you snooze, you lose. I mean, how many times has this owner been asked to come here to... You know, to be work good faith with the developer and gone to the point where we have to do eminent domain. So, I mean, to me, I just wouldn't want to go over 1.

It's not pertinent to this particular resolution, but staff understands that.

Yeah, and I would clarify as well that the relocation of this poll as a part of the Woodside homes project is 1 of their conditions of approval. So the cost to purchase the overhang easement is a cost of Woodside, not the city.

John Potter, Okay, but I to make it clear. John Potter, This deals with the resolution of necessity we can't condition, the amount of money in the future, based on that, so I mean you make up your mind on how you want to vote but, but my motion.

specifically deals with the resolution and that's fine I mean I just was clarity on the appraisal and what was offered and if it ever if it ever comes back to us I will stick to the appraisal amount yes and that's our that's our intent to present that to the owner so if there's no rescinding of motions or seconds

Okay. We have the motion and second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. 7.1 resolution of necessity is approved. Moving forward to item 8 general business. 8.1 presentation on the pavement management system update.

So Melissa is going to get our presenter queued up and then Michael Winton and Michael Miller will lead the presentation. Just want to give you a preview as I mentioned during our one-on-ones. This is an overview of the pavement management consultant's work thus far to kind of give a preview of the situation. And then you'll see another item later on this calendar year that is the full report from the consultant. With that, I'll hand it over to Michael.

Very good. I can't help myself. I have a little intro I gotta go into. Sorry, Thomas. Uh, so for decades councils, well aware, local agencies in the state of California have been struggling to keep up with the maintenance needs of the roadways under their jurisdiction. Overall state gas tax revenues that serve as the primary source of funding available to local agencies for roadway maintenance have been declining largely due to increase fuel efficiency in our vehicle fleet, including a growing number of hybrid and all electric vehicles. Fewer gallons of gas being sold equates to lower gas tax revenue, which makes it increasingly difficult to fund maintenance projects. Local agencies within Tulare County. We're very fortunate to have measure R, which does provide a supplemental source of funding that can be used for maintenance. However, we still come up short of what is needed. In addressing this challenge, it's increasingly important that the city take a strategic approach when deciding how to allocate our limited resources to roadway maintenance projects. A pavement management system is a way to do that. For many years, the city has utilized Street Saver, which is an online pavement management system. It's been some time since the data in that system has been refreshed. So the city issued a request for proposals for consultant update our street inventory to include new streets constructed since the last system update and to subsequently evaluate the payment conditions of all streets within our inventory. IMS Infrastructure Management Services was selected and awarded the contract in late 2025. They've since completed both the street inventory update and the evaluation of pavement conditions. They have updated the information in the City Street Saver pavement management system and are in the process of preparing the final report that is the final work product of their contract. So we're currently at the point, as Thomas indicated, where IMS has been able to use Street Saver to analyze our system and run some preliminary budget scenarios to help us understand both our needs and what level of funding is needed to address them. So tonight we have Marcial Moda from IMS joining us online, and he will make a brief presentation of their findings thus far. After his presentation, both Marcial and city staff will be happy to answer any questions you might have. Take it away, Marcial.

Okay. Can you hear me? Yes, okay awesome okay so um good evening, you know city council, let me start by thanking you in advance for your time and i'm gonna start sharing my screen in a moment okay. Let me know when you can see it. Can you see my screen.

Not yet.

Not yet? Okay, let me try again. Okay. Here, share. Okay. What about now?

The screen transitioned.

Okay.

There we go.

Okay, so you can see my screen now. Okay, perfect. Okay. Okay, so this is the presentation for a pavement management survey and analysis that was done in 2025 and 2026. So the survey was completed in 25 and the analysis was completed in 26. So this is the agenda. I'm going to be talking about the management process, then the condition survey, then the representative conditions and the pavement conditions overview and the analysis of project planning. First with the pavement management process, right? first we meet with the city you know to see their objectives their policies their budgets then we go and with the vehicle that you see in here we assess the pavement conditions and then again we get the we run the budget analysis and you know to get the pavement performance modeling to predict like the conditions in the future and then later we can the city can conduct planned projects rehab and preventive maintenance So this chart in here, and I hope I don't make you bored, but this is something called cost of deferral. So what we're seeing on the left is actually something called PCI, that stands for Pavement Condition Index. And what we see categorized as very good, good, and poor, and very poor are categories of these PCIs telling you the conditions that each of your sections of pavement are in. So this deterioration curve that we see on the right is actually showing the typical performance of a pavement, right? And 40% of the life of a pavement actually falls into the, you know, like very good and good kind of like category where the preservation is actually recommended. Then after that, we go into the rehabilitation category, where like 15% of the pavement lifts, like the life of the pavement lifts. And also then at the end, then we have the major rehabilitation reconstruction, that that's when it becomes very costly, you know, to maintain, right? And now in here, what I'm going to be presenting is how we can prevent this performance from going into the major rehabilitation and reconstruction are very costly. By doing cyclical preservation treatments, you can prevent it from going into the more costly treatments and actually preserve your pavement for longer. How the pavement condition survey was done. The Army Corps of Engineers, a long time ago, they created a methodology to maintain their pavement network. This methodology later became a standard for the American Society for Testing and Materials called the ASTM 6433 for basically like roadways and parking lots, right? and this includes these distresses that you're seeing here on the screen like alligator cracking rotting longitudinal transfers cracking patching and weathering right and we did it with this equipment that you see on the right and i'm going to be mostly talking about the portion that goes on the back that uh basically scans the pavement for like any distresses cracks that that i've mentioned so far Okay, so the part that you saw the back hanging is the laser crack measurement system or LCMS. And this is the second iteration of it that gives you like a high resolution of it, right? And we use this to scan pavement distresses and do the analysis of it. So what this does is that it scans the pavement for cracks, then later it identifies them into the distresses that I mentioned before, based on the patterns like alligator cracking, block cracking, long and trans, and also identifies the seal cracks because, you know, then there's something called severity, like low, moderate and high that goes into play. And, you know, depending on if they're sealed or not, the severity changes. And also, we identify for those that are PCC, pavement concrete, cement concrete-like pavements, we identify their joints. And also, we exclude some utilities, like, for example, what you see here on the right side, the manholes, from being identified as any sort of distresses. And what is included into the pavement condition index? as I mentioned before the stress type after it's categorized based on the cracking pattern then the quantities for example for that one I mentioned alligator cracking that's measured in a square footage so you get that quantity there and also the distress severity if it's low medium or high based on the width of the cracking for example and then that goes into play into calculating this PCI and getting these categories like very good good poor and very poor now we're gonna be i'm gonna be showing you what they look like so that you have an idea of when i say like a pci of 100 a pci of 30 or a good or a fair or poor what they look like now we're going to be looking at this road and actually let me be moving this window that doesn't let me read the name of the street so this one is in very poor condition this is california street with a pci of 16 And in here we can see the predominant distress is alligator cracking. And the reason why it's such a low PCI is because this distress alligator cracking is related to structural issues underneath of the pavement layer. And now I'm going to move into the poor category. This is the one between like 25 and 50. This is Jackson Avenue, and we have a PCI of 26. We have a little bit of alligator cracking, not as much as we did in the previous picture, right? And a little bit of patch in here. Now I'm going to move into the good category. This one looks way better than the previous two. This is Sauvignon Street, PCI equal to 65. This range of good is actually between 50 and 70. We see a little bit of minor long and trans cracking, and we see a little bit of crack ceiling in here, and that's why it sits at a 65. And now we look at a very good condition. This is Pleasant Avenue with a PCI of 98. And here with this category, we see that between 70 and 100. And we see few to no detectable distresses, probably just a few cracks here and there were detected in there. And that's why the two point deduct in there. So now that you have an idea of what these conditions look like, for example, when you're looking at a pavement, I'm going to be talking about the overview of the pavement conditions in your network. So in the 2026 pavement conditions that we got from the 2025 survey analysis, we surveyed 293 centerline miles of pavement that you have on your network. And the overall network average PCI sits at a 53 out of 100. And the backlog is a 48%. So what we call backlog is the percentage of your network that sits at a PCI of 50 or lower. And we can see it in here. It's the poor and very poor, this 26.8 and 21.4. And then the rest is actually 15% for the good, because in here you can see the blue and the yellow, but actually like these two are actually represented with this one. This is the way that Street Saver, the pavement management software that the city is using, represents it. Because it separates good into the ones that have non-load and load-related distresses. If you remember from the very poor and poor, that alligator cracking pattern, that distress is a load-related distress. Another one could be a pothole as well. And another one is rotting, that is the depression that you're going to find in the wheelpath. So those are going to fall, even if the PCI falls into that, like, 50-70 range, they're going to be separated into load and not load, depending on the stresses that were found during the survey. And then in the very good category, you happen to have a 36.1% of your network in the very good category. Also, when it comes to the functional classes, that depend on the number of lanes and also the the volume of traffic that you have, you have residentials and locals that actually comprise the majority of your network with 56.1%. Then we have a meager amount that is not even represented in here of freeways or expressways. And then we have the collectors. Those are the roads that you take when you get out of your locals. They have a little bit more traffic because as the name implies, they collect traffic from the residentials. and they comprise 12.9 so about 13 of your network and finally we have the arterials you know like as the name implies they are the arterials that connect your city and they have the heavy traffic and they comprise 30.4 of your network and now when we look at the average condition of these functional classes we see that the arterials they sit at a 49 pci out of 100 Collectors sit at a 59 and residentials that comprise the majority of your network, they sit at a 54. And now let's talk about the analysis and project planning, right? Like based on the results that we got using the CDD budget and the cost for every treatment. This is the result. This is kind of like a scary graph, but I'm going to explain it to you guys. And in case you don't, feel free to ask. So what this is representing is, if we look at the top, this is a utopian scenario in which money is not a constraint and also time as well, because you can afford to tell all your constituents to stay at home because all the roads are going to get treated, right? and this is showing how that's why you see that bump in year 2026 because you're treating all your roads and then maintaining them right so that's the perfect scenario that requires 430 million dollars over five years to treat all your your network right but then we look at the black line over here this is that do nothing you don't spend a single dime on your road and your conditions are going to go from a 55 to about 43 or 44, right? So then later we look at a $3 million budget. I believe that's your current budget right now. And this will barely slow down the deterioration as if you were doing nothing. So these two ranges, I like painting them both that way, like the the fix all and the do nothing to show you how close you are to one of them and tell you how healthy your budget is so we see what that we can barely slow down the deterioration of your pavement even though you're actually spending three million dollars a year and then we look at the other two scenarios that we ran the six million dollars and eleven million dollars and in the end we end up with a 50 p overall pci and then a 56 and we barely reduce the backlog and the backlog again is the percentage of your network that has a pci of 50 or below uh we bring it down to 47 and 40 percent uh and i mean like 44 and 47 then the red one this is the scenario that actually tells you the amount of money that you need in order to maintain the current conditions that you have so right now the city's overall network pci sits at a 56 So if you spend $22.6 million a year, you're going to be able to maintain the conditions that you currently have right now and decrease a little bit the backlog to 40%. And then finally, this yellow one, I don't know if it looks yellow to you, but it does to me. this is the target pci so in this one we're saying what is the amount of money needed in order to increase the pci from a 56 to a 60 so four points and in the end that translates into a decrease in the backlog so again that percentage of your network needing reconstruction and major rehabilitation decreases from the 40s like 45 47 into the 35 but that would require a 31 million dollars a year if you have any questions regarding this chart feel free to ask right now otherwise i'm gonna move to the end of the presentation okay so that was it um thank you for your time again my name is marcel motad this is my identification in here feel free to give me a call here or send an email here and again i was representing can you go back to the can you leave it on the slide the previous one yeah michael did you have some color kind of commentary and clarification you want to add

Yeah, 1 thing to note is right now alleys are included in our are classified in this as local streets. So they are impacting the PCI, both of the local street category and the overall system PCI. So, take that what you will alleys are really kind of a different beast than actual a local street that gets that that type of local street traffic. And also many of our alleys have sewer mains running down the middle of them. And there are opportunities as we go in and need to do replacements of those sewer mains. Um, those projects off often will pick up the cost of the alley reconstruction also.

But there is. I mean, there's no plans to pave alleyways under other than for the sewer situation. Is that accurate?

Well, right now, this scenario includes addressing alleys because they are lumped in, but currently has that taken place.

I guess is what I'm.

No, not so much outside of actual sewer projects.

Okay. Yeah, anything we can make the. Public utility board of public utilities do is always a favor to the city council.

So I felt Trisha squirming next.

I could tell she was moving quick. I just, um, we used to have an alley for those listening. Sorry.

We used to have an alley rehab, uh, program. So there were a few alleys that we did with the previous streets director, but it's all about funding. So there are some that we would like to deal with. Um, but it's just funding.

So, overall, you know, this is, this is something that all local jurisdictions in the state of California are facing. We're all struggling with how to come up with the funding necessary to maintain streets. The ultimate fix is going to have to be how funding is generated at the state level. how the gas taxes are calculated. Unfortunately, there's been a lot of discussion on that topic, but I don't see a whole lot of movement. So we need to be looking at stopgap measures and looking at these numbers, 22.6 million per year just to maintain current conditions when currently we are working with $6 million a year or 31 million a year just to reach what we were hoping to reach a PCI of 60. I'm not seeing a scenario where we're going to generate that kind of money, but we've got to look at ways to slow the deterioration, ways to come up with additional funding to slow that deterioration, hopefully by time, so that eventually if it does get fixed by the state, we haven't dropped down into those exponentially more expensive fixes needed for our system.

Do you have any questions, Vice Mayor Hero? Do you have any comments?

Michael, and I would just add to that. With our, our lobbying efforts in Sacramento, relative to gas tax and those types of things. And also the presentation you received a couple meetings ago on the fiscal impact analysis and what transitioning to for future neighborhoods. So that those are covering the cost of maintaining their roads and so on. So there's these other things that we're doing so that we can. attempt to slow this and create more funds to address the backlog. And Michael, are we able to do modeling to show what scoring and costs looks like sans the alleys?

Yeah, we will be able to do that going forward now that basically the system is set up, the data is in the system, we can play with various scenarios. 1 other thing, Thomas, I feel I need to mention is the importance of measure are, you know, how, what a great benefit that's done to it for us because we do get a local portion of measure our dollars that could be used for street maintenance measure does have a sunset date. And if you're paying attention, what's going on in Fresno with measure C, um, that. Dave Kuntz, delivered all kinds of amazing things for fresno county and now things have gone sideways and it's not a certain thing that that measures going to get renewed for them. Dave Kuntz, So just take the chance opportunity to talk up as your are and when the time comes, I sure hope that it does it gets renewed.

Councilman Segal.

Yeah, I think on the issue of alleys, do we, two questions, are there still dirt alleys in the city? And second, is there any ranking of alleys in terms of like prioritization? And I think you mentioned that might be something we do, but are there still alleys that are all dirt?

There are alleys that, currently appear to be not much more than dirt. I can't say as to whether at one time there wasn't some type of paved surface there, but there are certainly some that are in condition that you go look at them. They look like dirt. There is no system in place for prioritizing alleys at this point. We've basically been addressing them based on Needs for replacing of the sewer mains, treating those, um, 1st, and foremost. Um, there are some alleys that show up in our system that. I can think of some that run along the Santa Fe trail, like, from Los Angeles street and running East from there that we have to resolve an issue of. They're basically part of the trail at this point, and we have to figure out how we're going to. How we're going to keep those and and, uh, how that's going to impact the trail, but.

And I guess the final question on that, how, I mean, I kind of see alleys as, you know, they're there. They may not be as high priority as a street or an arterial collector. And they just are going to get left by the wayside. So what what can be done to prioritize some dirt alleys or things like that and not get lost in with the big boys, I guess I would say in terms of the other priorities. So I don't know if there's any thought to that.

There probably needs to be a discussion of a policy. Currently, we do have a transportation planning policy, transportation. Pavement management system policy that's been in effect for several years that specifically directs us to spend our dollars on arterial and collector streets. It sets a standard for those and. Dave Kuntz, Focuses our efforts on maintaining arterial and collector streets so that might be something that we need to bring back and for Council discussion.

Dave Kuntz, I think it sounds like a topic for our strategic planning is new Council with some measuring money.

Dave Kuntz, Councilman materials any comments questions Council members there.

Dave Kuntz, Okay, so this is just a presentation. Dave Kuntz, All right, with that, thank you to our presenter. John Potter, Our consultant and thank you staff. John Potter, Or that John Potter, We moving forward on our agenda. We are item 10 which is staff updates, Mr or You know, if I can, I just want to apologize, Mr. Orr. So as general business, I'm going to take a step back. 8.1 is I want to go back to public comment. My apologies with that. It's presentation. I'm used to that for action items. Is there anyone in chambers who'd like to make public comment on 8.1, the presentation of the pavement management system? Okay. Do we have it on the phone? All right. I want to give that opportunity back to you, Mr. Orr.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to say this past Saturday, we had our Kids Day by our department at Zumwalt Park. We had probably about 600 to 700 kids attend. I did want to give a special thank you to Fire Chief Mr. Michael Ott and also local Mr. Torres for volunteering to be in the dunk tank. Thank you, guys. It was a good success.

Nothing to report.

We did have our 1st, bit of asphalt paving go down on South case street. Yeah, restoring some of Trisha's hope. They're also paving. They paid last night and they're supposed to be paving tonight as well. So hopefully they will complete the paid out of the portion. They had torn out tomorrow. I believe is the 1st, official work day for the to Larry Dayton street. In other words, the contractor is on the clock. His working days start. Tomorrow, so we've been fielding calls from anxious citizens, hoping to see some action out there as we're telling them. The clock starts, but the contractor still has, you know, control over their schedule and whether they use their time wisely or not. We have very little control over that, but we're the days are counting.

If I may Michael, I called Christian. Dave Kuntz, Talk to him about the interchange he said he was going to talk to the contractor and get back to me as soon as he knew something and over the course the last 10 days I haven't heard anything have I mean are we going to have a built interchange and. it's going to be closed or is it going to, I mean, what are you hearing?

As far as I know, we have a built interchange. It's just a matter of them moving the barricades out of the way.

Do they want volunteers? How would we handle that, Captain, if suddenly that was gone and everybody started using it? What would be the enforcement action at that point? Okay. That sounds good to me. You may have done something there. You understand that, don't you? This is a public meeting.

So if you're available tomorrow, Councillor Madero, I can bring donuts in the morning. We can stop by Dayton and say hello to the workers and then maybe swing by the overpass up there.

Just because Mark's not here, you guys can't run amok.

Just, we're just talking. There's no action here. There's no action. We're just talking.

You probably should know we're kidding at that point. Yeah. To a degree.

Anything else, Mr. Miller?

All right. Nothing to report. Nothing to report.

Nothing to report. Nothing to report.

Nothing to report.

Talking about alleyways, this past Monday we started the Clean California project in the west side with all the alleyways. So we started, I don't know the exact number we have right now, but the first day we removed 50 mattresses from a small alleyway. So we started the cleanup, so I will keep you guys posted.

Before we move on, can you give us an update on the last week or so, the last week of the opening of the show?

Yes, sir. It's been incredible just walking by and seeing everybody sleeping in a peaceful way and how everybody approached and thanked the city and everybody who's been helping. Like they were talking about the showers, the canals are taking a little bit long, but everybody's doing way more than we thought. Using the washers, the dryers, the food, everything's been on time. And in the beginning, we were going to move only like 20 guests in total. But at the end, we have almost 70. So almost everybody moved from the temporary encampment.

And how are you dealing with the issue of people wanting to hang around outside as opposed to. Becoming guests within, uh, 4 letters.

Hello team.

Okay.

No, unfortunately we have a lot of complaints about the school up front and most of the people in the front is because, uh, we didn't have a smoking area inside. The area inside the. inside the shelter because they put some wood down on the floor, like wood pellets and all the stuff. So I said no smoking until we remove that. So the same guests that wanted to smoke inside, they did the same, their own work. So they move everything out. Now we open and they are able to smoke. So you're going to see minimize the people outside. And another thing is the security was opening the door. Every hour to the hours, and we remove that. Now the security is going to be opening the door all the time. Because most of the people in the front were waiting for the time to go in. So we eliminated that. So now you're going to see less people in. The hello team has been helping us every single morning with that. But. Remember, there's 80 people waiting list to get into the encampment and some of them are going to be out there. So we've been talking to them every single day in the morning.

Thank you. Thank you for what you do, man. And the chief and fire department and the police department.

You're welcome. I just want to remind everybody the September 11th memorial event on September 11th is 25th anniversary of the attacks on 911. Um, what Mr. Bender alluded to. So that's next Friday. Uh, and then I'd also like to add on Chris, uh, Captain Ray Guerrero was also in the dunk tank. So we went from tall person to a little shorter to a little shorter through the event, but it was a good time.

Nothing to report nothing else for me.

You get the last word tonight.

Tell us about your trip. I took a little vacation to Boston over the last weekend. The end.

One of the things, Mr. Bender, if I can, just a clarification. The 25th anniversary of September 11th, what's the anniversary for the Rotary Blood Drive? How many years is this? 20th.