City Council - Regular Meeting

Alright. It's 06:30. Good evening, everyone. I will call this Tiger City Council meeting to order. City recorder, Craiger, would you please conduct a roll call?

Mayor Hu?

Here.

Councilor Robbins is absent. Councilor Slack is absent. Councilor Shah? Here. Council President Wolf? Here. Councilor Anderson? Here. Councilor Gaddusi?

Present.

Youth Councilor Hellick? Here.

Alright. Thank you. So would you will everyone please mute your microphone and join me in the pledge of allegiance? Council and city teammates, do you have any non agenda items?

None from us, mayor.

Seeing none, let's move on to recognition. So today, we will have the presentation of police lifesaving awards, and police chief McDonnell will will come forward and present the award. Good evening, chief.

Thank you, mayor and council. I'd like to invite, officer Yamashita to come up here with me as well. Go ahead and embarrass him a little bit. Let me slide out too. It's not very often that we get the opportunity to recognize the great work that that our men and women in the police department do.

Tonight, we get the opportunity to recognize officer Yamashita for truly saving someone's life. And if we had the opportunity to show the body cam video, which I did review as a part of the decision to give this award, it is remarkable. His decision to act is truly why this person is alive. And I'd like to read the citation for the lifesaving medal. To officer Jordan Yamashita for lifesaving efforts that occurred on 01/17/2026, Officer Yamashita arrived to find an unresponsive driver behind the wheel of a running vehicle in the parking lot of a convenience store.

Working deliberately to assess the situation, he determined the driver was unconscious and not breathing. Acting quickly, Officer Yamashita gained entry into the vehicle by breaking one of the windows and removed the patient so he could administer CPR and deliver naloxone. After a single dose of naloxone and several rounds of chest compressions, additional medically trained personnel arrived and took over care of the patient, eventually regaining a pulse and transporting the patient for further treatment at the hospital. Officer Yamashita, aware of the seriousness of the situation, acted purposely to save the patient. Officer Yamashita's actions reflect great credit upon himself, the city of Tiger, the Tiger Police Department.

He demonstrated our core values of attitude, leadership, integrity, service, and teamwork. So congratulations. Thank you. And

I also have the actual

medal here that you can wear on a class a uniform, and you've got the the other one. And did you wanna do photos, Mayor?

Please. We would love to.

That would be great.

All right. Thank you, officer, for your service and thank you, Chief, for the presentation. So let's move on to our next item which is the city manager report. Our acting city manager Trish will give a brief report. Good evening.

Good evening, mayor, council, members of the community and my Tiger teammates. Robert, if you wouldn't mind putting up the slide. Great. Thank you very much. Well, good evening again.

I hope everyone will join us in celebrating Engineering Week, this week through February 28. In recognition, some of our engineering colleagues participated in the Oregon e week in Portland where local engineering professionals, like our own Tiger teammates, meet with high school students to help inspire the next generation of innovative engineers and we're proud to be part of it. On the capital projects front, we have many engineers working on every part of the capital project delivery process. We currently have 91 proposed projects in our five year capital improvement project program. This is a strong pipeline of work focused on maintaining and improving the infrastructure that makes Tigard such a wonderful place to live, do business, and play.

A few projects currently underway include the Cook Family Park Accessible Dock Project, McDonald Street Improvements, Steve Street Park, and Red Rock Creek Stabilization. And I'll invite anyone to visit our capital improvement projects page on the City of Tigard website to learn more about the projects in progress and how members of our community can be involved either by preparing comments or having conversations about the work in their community. Thank you.

Thank

you. Counselor, any questions or comments? Seeing none, thank you acting city manager Trish. Let's move on to the next item, which is public comment. Public comment period provides an opportunity for members of the public to address the City Council.

While it is not a dialogue, I or staff will follow-up to address the issues brought forward in these comments. The calling number is (503) 966-4101, and those wishing to comment should call now to get into the queue. Anyone present wanting to comment should sign up on the public comment form at the front of the room. First one is the written comment. There was one written public comment received by the Monday noon deadline regarding the River Terrace 2 annexation and Kingston Terrace addendum to the 2022 Water System Plan.

Next item will be the in person public open. And I have two people who sign up. The first person who sign up is Julia Kai. Good evening, Julia. So please come forward, make sure the microphone is on and state your name and where you what city you live and then you have two minutes after that.

Is it on?

Good evening, mayors and council member. My name is Juliet Kai. I actually am a resident of Beaverton, but I'm a volunteer with Oregon Foundation Association. We are a local, nonprofit organization and local presenter of Shen Yun. And today, I brought a package for each council member to give you some background because we want to invite you all to come to the coming season, of Shen Yun Performing Arts.

We will have, four shows in April 2026 at the Kaller Auditorium. I wanna just takes a few minutes to explain to you some of the background. Many people mistakenly thinking that Xinyuan is from China. Actually, Shen Yun is American performing arts company based in New York. It was established in 2006, and it is completely self funded.

It doesn't receive any funding from the government or corporations. Majority of the performers are Chinese descendants born outside China. Their programs showcase the authentic and the traditional Chinese culture without the communist influence. The 2026 season marks the Xue Yun's twentieth anniversary. In the past two decades, the company has grown from one company into eight, companies.

Each year, they put on a completely new show and tour around the world. Last season, they performed 799 shows in 26 countries, including three shows in Poland and three in Eugene. This number in itself speak the popularity of the show. However, most people don't realize that Xinyuan has been under attack by the Chinese government since the very beginning. Each year, the Chinese embassies and consulates contact the theater managers, mayors, even leaders of state trying to pressure them to cancel their show.

There were also instances where they hired people to sabotage the show by slicing the tires of the company buses. As the show grows more popular, the tactics used to undermine the company also escalated in the past few years and there have been death from deaths and bomb threats to the sent to the theater, performers, even supportive members of Congress.

I will have to ask you to wrap it up.

Okay. So, anyway, I just want to give you an example. In 2023, the federal court charged and the later convicted two Chinese agents for attempting bribe an undercover FBI agents post as Internal Revenue Service off officials. Their specific goal was to strip chain of its nonprofit status. So with this information, I just want to let you know that Cheyenne Performing Arts is faith based performing arts group and it reflects in its program. It shows divine beings

You have to stop now. So, thank you for your time.

Thank you.

It's way over two minutes. We'll have the materials, so we'll review it. So, you so much.

Thank you.

All right. So next item on our agenda is Jeff Darlin. Good evening, Jeff.

I wrote, so I tried to stay on

the phone. Yeah. So after you state your name and what city you live in, you have two minutes.

Hi there. My name is Jeff Darling. I live here in Tigard. I submitted comments in writing, but I wanted to use a little bit of time to highlight a big concern which addresses some of the future agenda items five and six tonight. The pace of development commitments in River Terrace Two Point Zero and King City expansion, the water city, the water expansion, are moving much faster than the financial frameworks that are supposed to accompany them.

That gap, I think, deserves the council's attention before any final action is taken on those matters. Tonight, one of the agenda items is the annexation of River Terrace 2, and you're also maybe going to receive a briefing on the water infrastructure expansion. Neither area yet has a defined plan district, a funding strategy, or adopted system development charges. The rate study as my far as I know, the rate study that determines who pays for Reservoir 19 and the aqua storage wells and the Lake Oswego Tiger transmission line has not even begun yet. And yet, construction in Kingston Terrace is already underway.

Over 1,100 units have been approved and homes are being built. Every water connection made before these charges are updated is a connection that likely won't pay its full share of the infrastructure it requires. That difference doesn't disappear. It gets carried on by us, the people living here, and paying water bills today. We've seen this pattern before with electricity, where infrastructure pace outruns rate setting, and existing customers ended up subsidizing new arrivals.

So I would ask, before moving forward with either River Terrace two point o annexation, I guess I'm asking the city to conduct a formal retrospective review of River Terrace one point o SDCs, confirm they were effective, and use that data to update our charges now. And in parallel, I'm asking the council to expedite the establishment of meaningful system development charges for King City Water expansion before the window narrows further on both these fronts and the burden shifts to our current tax paying base. That's hard. A lot more in writing. Thank you

very Thank you, Jeff. Yes. We did receive your written comments as well. So thank you for coming.

Thank you.

Anybody else who want to make public comment and who has not sign up? Seeing none, let's move on to phone or video. Mr. Walters, are there any callers in the queue for phone or video testimony?

There are no callers.

Thank you. All right, so let's move on to the next item on agenda, which is legislative public hearing continuation, which is River Terrace 2 annexation. I will open up the public hearing. I just want to mention that staff is recommending council continue the annexation hearing for River Terrace 2 to a date and time certain of 06/02/2026. And Assistant Community Development Manager Warren is available for any questions. Counselor, do you have any questions or do you have a motion?

I move to continue the public hearing for case number ANX2025Dash00001. Did I get my zeros right? To the regularly scheduled city council meeting of 06/02/2026 at 06:30PM. And I'll second the motion.

Thank you. The motion have been moved forward by council president Wolff and second by councilor Shah. Is there any further discussion? Councilor Anderson, please No. Go All right. So those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The motion is adopted by anonymous vote of the council present. Public comments may continue to be submitted on this item prior to that date.

And the council will take public testimony in the continuance hearing on that date, which is 06/02/2026. All right. I will close the hearing. So let's move on to the next item on agenda, which is receive briefing on findings and recommendation related to the Kingston Tariffs Addendum to the 2020 Water System Plan. And senior project engineer Horton will give the staff report. Good evening.

Good evening, mayor. Good evening, council. My name is Ross Horton. I'm a senior project engineer with the Public Works engineering division. And like the Merced, I'm here to give you a briefing on the findings of the Kingston Terrace addendum to our 2020 water system plan.

Next slide, please. So before we talk about the addendum to the system plan, I just want to give you a quick overview of what the water system plan is and what it covers. So the water system plan is a comprehensive evaluation of our water system. It covers anything from current infrastructure to current usage to recommending capital improvement projects for future improvements and future expansions. It's something that's required by law, and we update it every five to ten years on a regular basis.

But when major changes to our water system happen, we handle those as as addendums to the existing water system plan. And the last addendum to our water system plan was in back in 2014 for River Terrace 1. Next slide, please. Oops. So we have Tigard has an intergovernmental agreement with the city of King City to provide water to them.

We not only have to supply King City, but also any areas that King City annexes into their city limits. So, next slide, please. Back in 2024, Kingston Terrace approved the Kingston Terrace master plan, which absorbed URA 6D into King City. Their plan or that absorbed 528 acres, and the plan calls for approximately 4,100 dwelling units to be developed in that area. And this is, again, all area that city of Tigard has to serve with our water system.

The Kingston Terrace Town Center, it's kind of just South of Beef Bend out near Roy Rogers. That's currently under development. We're expecting that to be developed by 2020 sorry, 2033, with the remainder of that Kingston Terrace area being developed by 2053. So this is a major change to our water system. It's gonna expand the water existing water system by about 20%.

So we prepared a addendum to our water system plan utilizing the same planning criteria that we used in the 2020 water system plan. So we looked at things like storage, our water supply, what fire flow needs are out there, and what pumping capacity is needed to serve the area. And, if you turn to the next slide, please. Over the next few slides, I'd like to just discuss some of the results of that Kingston Terrace, water system plan addendum with you. So first, we had to determine what the demands were for Kingston Terrace.

And on the left hand side of that slide here, we go through some of the assumptions that we include for all of our water system planning about how much water people use per day, how many people are in each house, what percentage of that water is needed for irrigation and commercial customers and things like that. So the figures on the right show our estimated demands of Kingston Terrace at build out. There's the average daily demand is a important number. That's kind of the average of what this area is gonna demand over the course of a year. So on an average day, Kingston Terrace at full build out is gonna require an additional 1,100,000 gallons of water.

The maximum daily demand, that's something that usually happens in early summer, we're expecting to have to serve an additional 2,200,000 gallons of water to Kingston Terrace. And this last figure, the peak hour demand is the maximum demand that's used in a single hour. Imagine everybody coming home from work and cooking and taking showers at night. That's when we'll see our peak hour demand, and that equates to an equivalent of initial four, almost four and a half million gallons of of water for a peak hour. So these are not insignificant changes to to our water system.

Next slide, please. So we also looked at storage, looking at our existing reservoir capacity in the pressure zone that's going to be serving Kingston Terrace. As of right now, we're looking at a we'll be entering a deficit, a storage deficit in the near future. We do have a capital improvement plan reservoir 19 already in the works to to address this. But without making any improvements to our water system, we'd be looking at a pretty significant storage deficit to serve Kingston Terrace.

Next slide, please. So we also looked at our water supply. There's there's two charts here. The one on the left is the one that's included in the water system plan addendum, and that shows a supply deficit starting in 2030. This Water System Plan addendum did not take into account an existing capital improvement project, the Lake Oswego Tiger expansion project, which will add an additional 4,000,000 gallons per day of supply.

Starting in about 2031 is when we're anticipating construction to be finished. So the chart on the right is a little bit more accurate as far as the current City Of Tigard capital improvement plan. We're expecting a supply deficit to start about two thousand fifty. So by the time 2050 comes around, we'd have to come up with a new source of water, whether that be an additional drinking water well or supply from different municipal source like the Willamette Water Supply Project. Next slide, please.

And then these last two items that we analyzed were pumping analysis, if we have the capacity to pump the water to where we need to. The Kingston Terrace addendum, again, this chart doesn't show the LOT expansion project. But counting in the LOT expansion project, which is already in the works, we are not expecting a pumping deficit with the Kingston Terrace expansion. In the same vein, we're not expecting any fire flow issues. With proper design of the pipe network out in Kingston Terrace, we won't have any fire flow or pressure issues out there.

Next slide, please. So we're talking about Kingston Terrace right now, but coming down the pike at us is also River Terrace 2, which is another plan to incorporate more urban reserve area into the city of Tigard. We'll be coming to counsel later this year to present the plan for River Terrace 2 and also a water system plan addendum for River Terrace 2. But just to give you guys all the information and kind of in full transparency here, our initial analysis of the River 2 area looks like it itself will demand an additional 1,000,000 gallons per day of water on an average day and 2,000,000 gallons per day on maximum daily demand day. So adding River Terrace 2 to Kingston Terrace, we're looking at full build out of both of these areas, looking at anywhere between 2,000,004 gallons of additional demand per day with these areas.

So definitely a lot of planning to do as far as incorporating these areas into our our system. Next slide, please. But we do have a plan. So there are some required system improvements that are gonna be needed to serve Kingston Terrace, and these were all identified in the Kingston Terrace system plan addendum. The first is piping upgrades.

There needs to be new transmission piping installed to bring water from where the transmission piping currently end currently ended out at 150th And Beef Bend out to River Terrace sorry, the Kingston Terrace area. Those piping upgrades are typically installed by developers as the area develops, but our construction inspectors and me, myself, I review the plans to make sure that those piping upgrades are in line with what's in the Kingston Terrace addendum. So we're not anticipating any issues when it comes to those piping upgrades. The KT addendum identified that additional storage that's needed. Approximately 7,500,000 gallons of new storage is needed in that pressure zone by 2050 to serve all these customers.

Again, we do have a reservoir project already in the CIP to cover that, and the additional water supply is needed. So we have currently in the works an additional 4,000,000 gallons a day with the LOT expansion project, which will get us past 2040 and into the mid-2040s before we see the deficit. And at that point, we'll need to have a new source online to serve the area. Next slide, please. So we do have, in the current capital improvement plan, a number of projects to address these upgrades that were identified in the Kingston Terrace addendum.

The first one I talked about is the LOT expansion project, where we'll be expanding our current supply with Lake Oswego from 14 to 18,000,000 gallons a day. We have the Reservoir 19 project in the works to construct a new reservoir on the South Side Of Bull Mountain to serve this area and also the River Terrace 2 area. We've completed a siding study for that. We'll be starting land acquisition here in the near future, and we're expecting construction to happen in the early 2030s. By by 2032, that that reservoir should be online.

We'll be starting the 560 East Pressure Zone consolidation project, which will also add additional storage to the 410 Pressure Zone, the one that serves Kingston Terrace and River Terrace 2. That project's kicking off here in the near future. And we also have an aquifer storage and recovery well expansion feasibility study to

allow

us that's the first step in us installing up to two new ASR wells to expand our supply. So that feasibility study is kicking off later this year. And finally, we'll be starting off with our water system plan update and a subsequent system development charge rate study. The water system plan update will start later this year. It will take into account the information we found in or the findings we found in the Kingston Terrace addendum and the upcoming River Terrace two point zero addendum so that we can comprehensively plan these water system upgrades into our capital improvement plan.

And once that water system plan update is finished, we will start the next water system SDC rate study to make sure that we have the rates in place to build all this new infrastructure. That is kicking off later this year and after July. Next slide, please. So just a a quick review of the findings of the the KT addendum and what we're gonna be asking of counsel here. The first is that Tigard is obligated to supply King City and Kingston Terrace with water.

This Kingston Terrace addition is a significant addition to our our water system, so we have completed the Kingston Terrace WSP addendum to help plan for these improvements that are needed. And we have capital improvement plan projects in place to support the initial phases of Kingston Terrace. And with our next water system plan, we'll have a full comprehensive understanding of all the projects that are needed and all the funding sources needed for those. So I'd love to answer any questions you guys have today Kingston tear about Kingston Terrace and the water system plan addendum. And then we have on the schedule for the March 10 meeting a resolution to adopt this Kingston plan Kingston Terrace WSP addendum as an official part of the water system plan.

Yeah. Next slide, please. And happy to answer any questions you have.

Yeah. Thank you for your presentation. I guess we can start off by mister Jeff Darling's question. I assume you read his public Yes. Written comments. And can you do you care to respond to some of the point he raised?

Yes. So our current water system plan system development charges do include some of the projects needed for some of the projects for the Kingston Terrace edition. So we have in there partial funding for Reservoir 19. We have full funding for the Lake Oswego Tigard expansion. We have funding for the ASR feasibility study.

And we also have in place funding for Reservoir 18, which was recently constructed. So Reservoir 18 is similar in scope to the needed Reservoir 19. So even though Reservoir 19 is only partially funded with the current water SDC fees, the SDC's fees that we're collecting as related to Reservoir 18 kind of fill that funding gap for the time being until we can finalize the SDC rate study for the next water system plan. So the the current SDC fees are not probably not totally in alignment with what the total costs are going to be for Kingston Terrace and eventually River Terrace 2. But it's not like we're completely deficient on funding for those.

We are using the current SDC funds that are collected for projects that have already been completed to help continue fund those future projects needed for the the water system expansion.

Okay. So there's so there's no urgency to have a SDC study before all this is adopted. Is that what you're saying?

I'm not saying it's not urgent.

Uh-huh.

I do think that it's important to update our our water system SDC fees. It's something that we can look into a little bit further as to how the current SDCs compare to what our anticipated costs are for Kingston Terrace and River Terrace 2.

Right.

But I I will look a little bit more into that and get back to counsel before the next meeting.

And, also, I think related was, for River Terrace 2, it it's the city's property, so we're gonna collect SDC. For but for Kingston Terrace, we don't collect SDC from them. Correct?

We collect water SDCs.

Oh, we do. Okay. That's good.

Alright. Thank you for clarification. Current water infrastructure that's going into Kingston Terrace, we like, whenever meter gets put into the ground, we'll call it an SDC

for Thank you for the clarification.

Not I think because Kingston Terrace is outside of City Of Tiger, we don't collect the other fees.

Right.

But water Water we do because it's our system.

Great. Counselors questions? Counselor Shah?

Thank you, mayor. I too was equally intrigued and thankful for mister Jeff Darlin's comments. And one issue he did raise with with regards to the IGA and that it may warrant scrutiny just because it had been written before Kingston Terrace infrastructure costs were known. And I I'm not sure if you could answer that now because you received the letter maybe just shortly. But, do you also agree that this fee is constrained and could be problematic for and I think you called it, not completely deficient, but somewhat deficient on funding.

I don't know how updating the IGA is going to affect SDC fees. That's something we can look into, but the I I think we're bound by the current IGA that says we serve water to King City and all of its annexed areas, we can look into that. I can talk with Joe and and Brian

Okay.

And see if there's any any need for that. But I I know our current IGA with King City is, it's valid for going into the future. So I I don't know if we're in a place right now where we can renegotiate it.

Yeah. I think Ross covered it, quite well. The IGA, sets up the guidelines that we are to serve this area, and it would be the FCC methodology that would really set the rate. Just to add on a little bit to what Ross was explaining on the FCC project list right now, with the number of planning efforts that are underway with our water system, If we were just looking at Kingston Terrace right now, we would most likely be moving into a water SDC methodology update shortly after this. However, with having River Terrace two point o addendum coming up and then the water system plan citywide incorporating both of these in short order, the way our water system operates, it is a citywide impact.

It's not just a regional impact for the water system. So we really have to look holistically at the whole system when we update the rate. And if we were to do it incrementally, then council would be faced with potentially changing the rate three times in near future with all these efforts taking place. So taking a quick look at our current project list that has fed into the current SDC rate, we're confident that the near term projects are afforded based on our current rate. We will put some effort into evaluating that rate just to see, you know, test that a little bit closer.

But with the Reservoir 18 project falling off, Reservoir 19 starting up, we're we're confident these projects will be afforded in near future. And then with system planning efforts being updated every five years on average, at most ten years, things like the ASR four project that will take place maybe fifteen years out yet from right now, Once we get through this feasibility study and know what that project will be, that will get included in a future water system plan update and a future rate study that would be even after the efforts that we're talking about today. So some of the projects that are needed will be far enough out that they're incorporated into future rate studies and accounted for.

That's your question.

Thank you very much. I think that helps the context and helps set the stage. Is this something by I know we're hearing this March 10. Is this something we can have additional whether it's a spreadsheet on the dollars it would cost? Because right now, it seems very nebulous. And I'm still a little concerned about we're not completely deficient, but we are deficient. So that's one concern I have. And then also I am intrigued by the idea of doing a retrospective review of River Terrace one point o just to see if indeed there was effectiveness of the allocation of SDCs. Not sure if you can address that.

Yeah. We're happy to report back definitely before the March 10 or at the March 10 meeting. Some of the efforts in River Terrace 1 that I can comment on is there's been very few city capital projects that had to be delivered as part of River Terrace 1. It was primarily all delivered by private developers. Reservoir 18 was partially serving River Terrace 1, so that's probably the biggest capital project out there that would that we can comment on or provide more details.

But across all systems out there, and tonight we're just talking water, but streets, parks, everything. Almost everything that you see out there has been private development provided, and some of it's offset by credits, but that is not money out to developers. You know, it wasn't projects we delivered and projects we paid for. It was offsetting credits to fees they would have paid. So we can definitely provide a list of capital projects. There's been a few, but it's a pretty short list relative to the improvements that have been completed out there.

Yeah. So yeah. Please do. Council president Wolff.

I'll be fast because thank you, councilor Shah. I was going to actually request the same thing of giving us that kind of financial analysis so we can paint that picture. So thank you, councilor Shah.

Alright. So, yeah, so we'll we'll really much like that kind of information before the the next adoption hearing, which is March 10, right? So Yep. Yeah. So thank you so much for your report.

Thank you. Thanks.

All right. So next item on our agenda is Downtown Reimagine Alternative Discussion. And Senior Planner Shanks will join us remotely to give the staff report. Redevelopment Manager Farley, Senior Transportation Planner Gerke and Principal Engineer Furman are also available either here in person or remotely if we have any questions for them. So good evening, Susan.

Good evening, Mayor Hu. Can you hear me, see me? Hope I'm not on the giant screen.

No, we can see your slides. So that's great.

Okay, great. Great. I'm glad I'm not on the giant screen. So yes, good evening, Mayor Hu and city councilors. I I work in the community development department.

My name is Susan Shanks. I'm a senior planner there. I have met and know some of you, but this is probably the first time that some other of you are seeing me. So I am actually here to present the Downtown Tigard reimagined, project briefing. It's been a long time since council has heard about this project, And I won't be able to give an in-depth briefing on everything that has come before, so I hope that those councilors that were unfamiliar read the memo that I sent council back in October and availed themselves of the information that we have available on our website.

And I'm happy to answer questions about what has come before, but I'm mostly gonna focus on the phase that we're in now, which we're just calling phase two. But just in general, the Downtown Tiger reimagine project is a long range planning project, and the first phase updated our comprehensive plan related to downtown, redevelopment. And the second phase, we'll be looking to update, well, implementing, basically, those updated, policies and goals that we, that were adopted into the comprehensive plan. So next slide, please. So just to give you a little project background, like I said, I'm not gonna give you a ton.

Next slide, please. The study area that we've been looking at is downtown, but a little bit more expanded than our current downtown boundary, primarily because we wanted to include the library, which is kind of in your lower right hand corner, kind of to the bottom of the page. And we also are including the area on the other side of Hall Boulevard, that is on, kind of in the middle of the slide, to the right. That is where potentially I mean, there is a future planned Southwest Corridor light rail project in that area. And, so we're looking at that area, and a little bit more about that later.

But we're kind of looking around the edges of what is currently our downtown boundary just to make sure that, we're not missing anything. Next slide, please. And, just for those of you who don't know, there was a visioning project back in 2020. I know that's been a while, but, to update the vision associated with downtown, and what people wanna see there, both in terms of types of businesses, but just the look, the feel. And so the vision as it stands now that has been adopted is that we want our downtown to be vibrant, active, and welcoming, and it really be in the heart of the city of Tigard.

Next slide, please. And after that vision was developed, that's when we moved into the first phase of this project, which, like I said, updated our comprehensive plan. And we are focusing now with this phase on updating the zoning and our community development code, specifically our plan district regulations that govern redevelopment in downtown. That's what we're focusing on now. And what this slide is showing you is how the downtown reimagine project as a long range planning project fits within the broader state and regional land use framework as well as our local land use framework.

So that blue bar in the middle that says downtown tigered reimagine project, that is, this is the project. And anything that we do with respect to land use, or that we codify in our development code or comprehensive plan, we have to ensure that it is consistent with state and regional land use policies and goals. And so those are various goals and plans that we always have to kind of look to. But our long range planning projects really can reflect our local priorities and values. And so this is how these projects kind of fit in between state and regional goals and our own local city goals.

And, so we are focusing on updating our local land use policies as shown here, below that blue bar, as well as our local regulations. Next slide, please. So when council last, heard about this project, which was when the comprehensive plan updates were adopted. The counselors at that time expressed some concern about, bike facilities, and some speed limits on specific streets in downtown. And specifically, not just bike facilities, but the lack of dedicated bike facilities.

Currently, for example, on Main Street, there is no dedicated bike facility. There are paint markings on the in the vehicle travel lanes, which indicates to a cyclist that they are allowed to travel, in the vehicle travel lane with cars. And and that's true for Burnham Street. Well, pretty much, every street in downtown, there are no specific dedicated bike facilities like a bike lane. So there was concern expressed, from several counselors about that, as well as the high speeds on those streets.

And then there were questions about how the recently adopted, goals and policies, development regulations related to the tigered MAID project. And MAID was a project that updated our employment land zoning. But there was just questions about how the mixed use employment, mixed use commercial, and mixed use residential zones, like, would they carry over into downtown? So there are just questions about that. And so, you know, we've we've, we've looked at that closely.

And then lastly, there was concern about, what was recommended at the time, from the project team as well as the team of consultants we had about the maximum building heights along Hall Boulevard, specifically in the area where a future proposed, Southwest Quarter light rail transit project is planned. So, like, Hall and Burnham, and commercial, that area, that there was concern about the heights there. So, essentially, what I'm gonna be doing is presenting you with kind of what the original proposal was that that raised that kind of, that wherein council raised these concerns. And then I'm gonna show you some alternatives that we have since developed, to address these concerns. And what we're looking for tonight is essentially your direction on how you'd like us to proceed.

So, you know, we can go back and tweak some things some more. You know, you might be comfortable with the alternatives that we've developed. You might wanna go back and look at the original proposal, again. And so we're just really looking for your direction, which is why I'm gonna try not to speak too much. I really want to, answer your questions, have you discussed things, and and give us that, hopefully, direction at the end of the evening.

I do have project team members here. Skyler Warren and Sean Farley, I believe, are probably in the audience. They're available to answer questions. They were part of the comprehensive plan amendment updates back in 2024. And then, also, we have our principal transportation, engineer available remotely, and that's Courtney Furman, as well as our principal transportation planner, Tiffany, also Gurke, also available remotely.

So a great team of people with a lot of experience really focusing in on the transportation network, specifically bikes in this area, land use, with regard to zoning, and those building heights that council had some concerns about. So next slide, please. So here are the alternatives. And, actually, next slide, please. So first, I'm just I'm showing what the original proposal was.

And when I say original proposal, this was the proposal that was created by the project team, including, a team of consultants, for the transportation network in downtown. And the the the alternatives, while they'll look graphically different, I tried to keep, basically, the orientation and the overall perspective, what you're looking at roughly in the same place so that even though they might they're gonna look different, that you can kind of see the, the difference between the two. In this case, the existing transportation network is in a dark gray color, and the proposed transportation network is in a combination of green dash lines and reddish pink dash lines. And then on a, you know, lighter scale, there's some dash lines there showing pedestrian bike connections mostly from Fano for Fano Creek Trail, which is on the kind of the lower left side of this of the screen through the the green area that, there's some additional ped bike. There were some additional ped bike paths connecting Fano Creek Trail up to some new streets and up to Burnham, that were part of the original proposal.

So I say all that because the next slide, again, it'll be slightly different, but everything will be kind of in the same place. But the color scheme is gonna look a little bit different because this was, originally the consultant's final map that they had designed for us, and we don't have that consultant team on board anymore. So, why don't you go to the next slide, please? And we'll talk about, the refinements that we have made to this plan. And I put it on an aerial photo to provide some context.

I hope that doesn't make it too busy for folks. I hope you had a chance to look at this before the meeting. So, essentially, now instead of the existing network, what you're seeing, instead of it being a dark gray color, it is black. So that is the existing network. So I just want you to really focus on the existing network so you can kind of see the gaps.

Like, we have some really big blocks in downtown, and, of course, we have downtown being bisected by the railroad tracks, which prevents streets, you know, pet bike connections across the railroad tracks. So we have a very limited street network right now, and there's always been plans always, I mean, relatively speaking, always been plans, for, inserting more streets and pet bike connections in downtown. And this is basically, an updated version of what is currently in our transportation system plan. It's it's certainly a refinement. I think we took a really, really long hard look at what what do ped what do, pedestrians and cyclists, like, really need?

Like, where are the gaps and what is feasible what what kind of gaps are feasible for us to overcome? And then what what makes sense from a redevelopment perspective for adding additional streets to an already built up area, which is always challenging. It's always challenging to do infill, development and redevelopment. It's even more challenging when you're kind of missing streets to add those back into an existing network, takes land. It takes a fair amount of land to put in new streets where they don't exist.

So we've actually trimmed back some of those streets, and we're really focusing here in this refined proposal to balance, basically, the public need for the streets that provide mobility and connectivity and access as but then recognizing that if that, in order to eventually have these properties redeveloped, we can't overburden the existing property owners with, like like, a large amount of right away dedications. So it's a real balancing act because we really want to promote redevelopment, and we don't wanna overburden, property owners or developers who, will hopefully in the future be redeveloping in downtown, but we really need a little bit more of the network in place as well, to overcome some of the the disconnectivity that we have in downtown. So the black is the existing network. Hope you've zoomed in on that. And then, the kind of the pink color, those are proposed new streets.

And some of them, as you might see, are one way. And that was a way for us to provide connectivity, but limiting the impacts of requiring additional right away from property owners, but serving that very important purpose of allowing peds and cyclists to use those streets for two way travel, but allowing cars just that one way travel that limits the size of the street. So the pink is, like, the new full streets that we are proposing. And then the gold yellow color, the solid color is our existing trail and path system. We actually have like, I mean, we have Fanno Creek, and we have all the connections, that come off the Fanno Creek Trail.

We also have the Heritage Trail. Like, we have, some pretty good bones for a really great, trail system that serves downtown, but we're missing some key connections. And so, the the kind of the the parallel goldenrod color lines are making those connections between our existing trail and pass system, to the, proposed and existing street system. So I'm hoping that it will help you see, like, the gaps that we're trying to fill. And I'm just gonna pause there because I really want this to be a discussion.

Does anybody is anybody confused about what they're seeing? I don't necessarily wanna get into the the merits of it yet, but I wanna make sure that you understand what you're seeing before I open it up for, like, discussion at the end. Any questions about what you're seeing? Okay. I'll keep going.

Should I go?

Okay. Counselor Shah has a question.

I do

have one question.

Yes. And thank you so much. This is, helpful. The proposed streets that are on the current slide, those are ones that you're suggesting that haven't been suggested previously. Am I correct in assumption?

Some of them have been suggested previously. We're not starting with a completely like this is not a completely different proposal than what was seen actually, you were you were, on council back in 2024, and so you saw the original proposal. So this is a refinement of that proposal, so it's not brand new. So some of these streets have been proposed before, but not this exact specific configuration.

Great. And so the ones that are new from the 2024, is there background as to why they were proposed the new, if you're calling them segments or refined proposal. And it doesn't have to be answered now. I'm just Mhmm. From the back from the background gap analysis.

So, just so I understand, you're wanting to understand. And is it Robert who is staffing the PowerPoint? Could you go back one slide? So this was the proposal back in 2024. So for example, the area just using this as an example, the area between Fano Creek and Burnham Street, if you can kind of look where that is, you can see that a street was like, the pink dash line was kind of proposed through that area.

And then, and then different streets and trail segments from Fano Creek Trail to Burnham were proposed. So you can kinda see what was proposed, back in 2024. And, actually, it's not dissimilar from what is currently in the TSP. Again, none of these are radically different. It's really like the nitty gritty looking at like, we looked at many different things, you know, property ownership patterns, lot size, and looking at destinations for pedestrians and cyclists, looking at spacing standards.

I mean, we looked at many, many different factors. And if you go to the next slide, again, focusing on kind of that Burnham area, we're still proposing that one pink street, that goes, out to Hall Boulevard. We're still we think that is, a a key street to break up the large lots and blocks that are in that area. However, we have actually refined the like, the location, a number of streets, and paths more consistent with where, like, an existing path is and also, like, along property lines in such a way that it doesn't also overburden the existing property owners were they to redevelop. So we're in some ways, what this refinement does is that it streamlines, like, by removing actually certain proposed segments of streets and or, path pedestrian path connections.

But it's but there's still a need there for, having some new streets, to break up these big lots. So it's not radically different, but this is really just a result of our our in-depth analysis. So does that answer your question?

Thank you. It it partially does. I'd be interested in the in-depth analysis if that's just available. That would be really helpful for me, and I appreciate, you walking through both. I do recall those from 2024, but just interested in the in-depth analysis for the new Sure. I was thinking.

Yeah. So there was a lot of analysis. I can share that with you. It's a lot of hand drawings, and, and calculations, you know, intersection spacing, distances, all that kind of stuff. But that in-depth analysis was also our project team getting together and really debating the merits.

Because there's no, like, right or wrong answer here per se. It really is about, you know, balancing connectivity and the need for more streets and pedestrian cyclist connections and not overburdening property owners when they do redevelop. So I can't recreate that for you other than this is where all of our thinking analysis landed us, but I can give you some other I mean, we looked at block perimeters and property ownership, patterns and all sorts of other things that are concrete to inform how we came up with this refined proposal. So I can get you whatever and we can also meet separately, but I can I can I can provide you with all the stuff that we were able to write down as part of our analysis of this? And then the last thing I wanna Just Oh, go ahead.

Yeah. I I do remember this conversation and some council member had concern about, for example, bike sharing

Yes.

With car on Mainstream and Durham. A couple of weeks ago, I just saw a car honking at a bike in front of it even though the street the speed limit is 20, so how much faster does that car want to go? I don't know. So I will appreciate some I assume by adding this new row, the intent was to allow bicyclists to use alternative route, but maybe that's not the intent. So, yeah, so if you could share those kind of analysis of how those additional street might address those concern, that would be helpful.

But, yeah, we we only have about twenty minutes left, I don't want to go into much detail on that. But just just to echo councilor Shah's request that more details will be helpful. So yes, thank you.

Well, that's great that you asked that question because the last thing I wanted to put in on this particular map is the white dash lines, one of which is on Ash Street. So it's a white dash line, on a black line. So Ash Street is an existing street between Fano Creek Trail, and, it crosses Burnham and that it, dead ends into the TriMet Park And Ride, at the Heritage Trail. So there's a dash line there, and then there's another dash line, that is along the pink street over on, like, kind of further up in the graphic. So those are meant to indicate streets that are proposed with dedicated bike lanes.

And so, I wanna point those out, and we've done another graphic to help you better see, the bike network relative to the street network. And when I say bike network, it's like those places that are either trails, like Fano Creek Trail where there is no vehicular traffic, or those places, as this is showing with the dashed lines, the white dashed lines, where we're proposing to actually bring in some key, some streets, either modifying existing streets or when there there's a proposed new street to add bike lanes so that people have that option. Because Main Street was recently completely redone. That's not gonna change. We're not proposing to go back and add bike lanes to Main Street.

That would be a very, very expensive retrofit of a recently completed street. But we do recognize and thought it was a really great point that council made last time that for those people that are uncomfortable traveling, in the street, you know, in the vehicle travel lane, that they we wanna provide them with alternatives. So can you go to the next slide, please?

Maybe I can just push back a little bit on that. I mean, I understand it's not cost effective to redo Main Street anytime soon, but it doesn't mean we can plan that for the twenty, thirty years from now. So I mean, maybe that's not the intent, but I'm just saying we address concern about Main Street maybe not safe for bike. And I just want so but it is helpful to that you tell us that it's not on the table right now. But maybe

It's not what we're proposing. But again, this is where you get to provide direction to us. And let me first share with you what we are proposing.

Okay.

And then I'll probably also call on our transportation folks to, speak to you know, to have the discussion about this refined proposal for the bike network. So this is basically the same map as the one on the previous slide, but it's just showing, basically where there are, where there are supposed to be bike lanes. They're not all there, but they're supposed to be. So Hall Boulevard, for example, and Hunsicker, and 99 W, and Greenberg, are all supposed to have bike lanes. And they do in most places.

It's not perfect, and that's, you know, why we're we still have a CIP. Obviously, many different CIP projects that are working to complete our street network. So those streets that are in black should have, like, dedicated separate bike lanes. And then the the again, the the golden rod color that is, a solid line, that is our existing, like, trail and, like, head bike connection system. So there's Fano Creek Trail.

There's the Heritage Trail. And if you can kinda begin to see, like, where the railroad tracks kinda bisects downtown, what we're trying to do here is provide, like, a a more comfortable bike space for those folks who want to bike, but are they're just not ever gonna be comfortable riding in the middle of a vehicle traveling even with very slow speeds. And so this network is about filling the gaps with, a bike lane or we could call it a trail, but a trail connection from Fano Creek Trail to Heritage to the Heritage Trail. Because bicyclists obviously can travel much further on a bike than, like, a pedestrian can travel on foot, or they can travel more quickly. And so we we don't need it to be as fine grained as the pedestrian system, but this would, like, basically, for someone traveling on the trail either to downtown or away from downtown or through downtown, that if the Heritage Trail is where they wanna connect to and or the transit center, which is right off the Heritage Trail, like, this would allow them an opportunity to use, either off street facilities like a trail as well as on, street facilities like a bike lane to get to these key destinations.

So there's the one dedicated bike lane that we're proposing in this iteration as well as then with the new Pink Street on the other side of the railroad tracks to the north, proposing, on street facilities for those streets. Again, driving understanding that cyclists, they don't need as, as, like, detailed of a that's not quite the right word, but, like, the the network density doesn't have to be as fine as with pedestrians because they they can travel much further more quickly. But it's getting them to those key destinations. So getting them to and from downtown and then getting them to those key destinations, whether it's to another trail or to the transit center and, obviously, like, near Main Street, if, you know, that's where they wanna go. So this is, like, the framework for what we're proposing.

And this part is actually very different from what was originally proposed. It it allows for those dedicated bike facilities. So curious about your thoughts on that, on both the refined network as well as the refined bike network sorry, the refined street network and the refined bike network.

Any thoughts, further thoughts? Well, for me, I just you know, again, just will request more analysis because right now when I look at this path, I mean, there are still it's still easier for me to bike on Main Street, right, on Final Quick Trail by Sandbar. If I don't go to the post office, I'm not going to bike on any of the alternative new routes. It's just not

Sure.

Inconvenient. So this is my initial thought, but I understand Main Street is done, so we're not going to touch it anytime soon. So but again, doesn't mean we can't plan them for the future, but that's just my only feedback. Counselor, do we have any go ahead, counselor Shah.

Yeah. I appreciate the additional information. Thank you so much. And I know we have in Tigard, whether it's sidewalks or even the bikes, paths that there's, gaps, and I appreciate we're trying to fill the gaps. And I hope that this is getting us closer to that. It's just when you look at the refined proposal, it just doesn't show that. Maybe there's just it's not detailed enough, but I just wanna make sure we're not creating more gaps so a future council doesn't say, well, why didn't they just add that at the time? Which I know is we don't want instantaneous, but I just don't wanna create more gaps than we currently have.

Yeah. Well, we're we're I don't think we are. So it be helpful to see if, like, if you if you feel like, oh, there's a gap here because we did take away some things. And, again, trying to do that balancing act between redevelopment potential and opportunity, and providing the, the streets and then and bike and ped facilities that we really feel like we need. So would love to, like, get if like, to have that direction about, like because, like, for example, we took away a connection that would kind of actually go through the post office site, like, up to Main Street, because that block is not necessarily super large.

And and there was easy ways around it. So, like, if that's like, if you perceive that as a gap and you wanna bring that back, like, we would love that specific feedback. Like, if you from, like, from your perspective where you're seeing the gaps and would like us to add things back. Does that make sense?

Yeah. I think we it's for future conversation. And yeah. So we have about ten minutes left in your presentation, so maybe we need to move a little faster.

Okay. Okay. So that's the transportation and bike network. Can we go to the next slide, please? And then this was, basically focusing in on that one street that we're proposing.

That has been proposed also in the original proposal and is currently in our TSP. But with this proposal, we're proposing that, this particular street because of the concern that council raised last time for this to have bike lanes. And so we were, looking at, you know, what would that look like because this is going through several lots and properties, some, like, along the property line, some straight through. And so we need to be cognizant of how much right of way we would be asking, a property owner to dedicate, if they were to redevelop. And but assuming that we we want some dedicated bike facilities for those folks that are less comfortable traveling, you know, with cars in a travel lane.

So, mayor Hu, I, it's great that you are comfortable traveling, like, on Main Street in, a vehicle travel lane. What what we're what we thought we were addressing that we heard from council is that some people are not comfortable. And, so we're proposing that this is the street that makes sense too because of its, direction to the transit center that this one has bike lanes. And so we just wanted to let you know that, like, with that as a baseline assumption, that next slide, please. That because we also know that parking on street parking is a concern in downtown.

This, slide shows you, like, basically how much right of way width and the number of parking spaces, like, kind of shows you, the property impacts of providing on street parking spaces of certain kinds of configurations, whether it's parallel parking on one side or on two sides, parking on one side or on two sides. And the the two that are highlighted in gray is what is our staff's recommendation. And, again, we're looking for that balancing act between not having a super wide street that has everything, but, you know, trying to, allow for both the bike lanes as well as some parking, without actually having a a 100 foot right of way that would be a big ask for developers and might actually preclude re preclude redevelopment from happening. So just another aspect to think about when we think about adding bike lanes, if bike lanes are even something that you think is important to add. That's what we just took away from the last, the last time we were before council.

So, you know, again, would love to hear from you on that. Maybe maybe you feel like parking is more important and bike lanes are less important. We actually think it was a really good comment made by council last time about, like, for those people that are less comfortable. But this actually helps you to understand then what the impact is relative to how much land we need to to get from, a property owner. Next slide, please.

So moving on to land use, I e, zoning. This was the proposal back in 2024. It, is a very colorful map, and it was just based on kind of not so much zones, but just kind of almost concept areas in downtown. Currently, downtown is pretty much all zoned mixed use central business district or MUCBD for short. But with, again, the introduction or the adoption of the, mixed use zones that happened with the tigered made project, there was the question about how we use those like, how those zones carry over into downtown.

And so next slide, please. And so this is the refined proposal for how those zones carry over into downtown. We actually think with the May project, it helps us to, kind of direct, redevelopment in such a way, that really supports kind of the concepts that the original proposal were showing, like a more residential area versus a more commercial area. And granted, these would all be mixed use zones as they as they currently are now, but this would actually help to, make it a lot clearer to property owners and redevelopers, like, exactly what we're going for. So the area that is outlined in pink, we're proposing that that that be mixed use commercial.

And for those areas that are out and so that's, like, inclusive of Main Street and Burnham, for example. And then those areas that are outlined in yellow, and there's kind of two areas, those we're proposing would be mixed use residential, again, to both honor and build upon the existing residential uses that are already there. And then we're also proposing that the mixed use employment, which is the blue, and I'm looking to the right side of this map, that was actually rezoned with tiger made, and we're proposing that it actually stay mixed use employment. And then there's some other, like, things around the edges that we're making proposals about, I guess, you know, in terms of, like, cleanup, for what makes sense, but small compared to, basically, what we're proposing with regard to, you know, basically taking that mixed use residential zone from the Tigard May project and applying it to downtown. So instead of the brown that you see now, which is the MUCBD zone, we're proposing that downtown be a combination of the mixed use employment, residential, and commercial.

And then it'd be the plan district boundary, which I know is difficult to see, but it it's shown in black around the edges that that the plan district, boundary would be the one to have the unique standards for these zones that we'd for how we wanna see downtown redevelop. And one of those ways that we wanna see downtown redevelop or was raised by council last time is that we, there was an concern about the heights along Hall Boulevard being too tall. And so we're now proposing in line kind of with the Tiger Triangle and the development we're seeing there that all of downtown would have a maximum height of six stories with allowances for to go a little bit higher. There's already some required allowances, that we have to comply with under state law for housing. But generally speaking, that, given the how the light rail project has stalled for lack of funding, that we don't see the need anymore to have, like, 12 stories in that mixed use employment area where light rail is proposed or planned, that we're suggesting that everything be six stories and that that seems to be what the market is delivering, in Tiger Triangle.

So we're hoping that that, isn't keeping or addresses the concern that council previously raised. Next slide, please. So next steps. You know, we definitely obviously want to hear from you about, sorry. Next slide.

These three key things, like the transportation network inclusive of the BITE network. Does this make sense to you? It sounds like maybe you'd like more information. And and then the next one is, like, how we've applied the mixed use zones to downtown in the future for a a zoning change. And lastly was that concern about the the height along Hull Boulevard being too tall.

And so we're proposing now just to keep everything at six stories as the maximum height. But we definitely need that direction from you, before we kind of finalize kind of the transportation, framework and land use framework before we reach out to stakeholders. And so it it really we're we're wanting your feedback before we move on. If you have answer from answers or feedback direction for me tonight, that would be great. Haven't heard from all of you yet. So this would be the schedule if we were ready to go forward. But if there are still concerns, then obviously, the schedule would change.

Thank you.

That is it.

Yeah. Thank you, Susan. And, yeah, it's just for the transportation. I think we would like more information. And I don't know, Tiffany, is is the transportation plan being presented to the TAGGER Transportation Advisory Committee? Are they providing feedback on that as well?

They have not. Can you hear me?

Yes. I can hear you.

Okay. Perfect. Has not been at this phase, this has not been presented to the TTAC, but I can arrange that with Susan for our we have a meeting next even a meeting next Wednesday. If you're willing to, Susan, or we can put you on for the, April meeting. But, I know they'd be really they'd be really grateful to be given the opportunity, that's a great idea.

Yeah. I see a lot

of our counselor not

not I think they had. So, yeah, that would definitely be helpful because a lot of them represent different, know, like they some of them represent bike and pedestrian. So it will be good to have their feedback as well. Yeah,

I agree wholeheartedly.

Yeah, for the rest, it looks fine to me. I mean, it's good to simplify the zoning and and address council's concern about the building being too high. But, any other feedback, councilor council president Wolff?

No. And, mayor, you, commented on what I was gonna say. Susan, thank you. And I remember having quite a conversation around building height and what have you, and that's been addressed. So I don't have additional comments. Thank you.

Councilor Anderson? Yeah. I think

the zoning map looks looks good. It makes sense. There's just always the balance between cost of acquisition of the right of ways for for bike lanes or roads or so so we have to kinda nail that down first, think, in in a lot of circumstances. But I think the plan looks fine.

Conservator Shaw.

Yeah. Thank you. And appreciate it, senior planner Shanks, all the information. And a question, who is considered stakeholders when you're doing the outreach March through April? Because you've asked us to provide the feedback so you could present it to them. And I appreciate councilor Anderson's point about the monetary acquisition cost, but who would that be?

So the stakeholders, this was listed in the the the staff report that it would, the first phase really looked stakeholders was a very broad group. Like like, we got feedback from, you know, across the board, like, really across the city. But for this phase where it's really narrowing, and we kind of so we we got kind of the feedback we needed. We're gonna continue to use that from broad city stakeholders, but now we're gonna be talking to, like, the Tiger Chamber of Commerce, Tiger Downtown Alliance, the Town Center Advisory Committee or Commission. Sorry.

And we've already tentatively scheduled that for mid March to have a conversation with them. TTEC as well, obviously, the Tiger Planning Commission, potential downtown developers, we we have a few, and then downtown businesses, of course. So it it's reaching out to those folks that have a very direct involvement and stake in downtown redevelopment. And I I guess based on and and I wasn't present at at the last time council heard this, but I did go back and listen to that meeting. And, myself as well as other staff got the impression that, like, council at that time, although I I know it's a different kind of makeup, wanted to be first to weigh in before we move forward.

So are you saying that you would prefer that we actually go to these other stakeholder groups, particularly ones with expertise like in transportation, like the TTEC folks? Would like those folks to weigh in and we bring that feedback back to you all, versus, you know, getting, you know, kind of your buy in now. Like, just you know, we wanna be, we wanna understand, like, what decisions you want to make versus relying on other specific stakeholders with different kinds of expertise. So if you could Yeah. Have any thoughts about that.

I think we've provided some thoughts on the new proposal tonight, but I would be interested in what that stakeholder outreach is because, you know, we're also embarking on economic development, and a lot of those stakeholders have a voice in that as well. So I would propose, perhaps mayor and staff, if we after the stakeholder outreach, that we can hear what TTEC had to say, what the stakeholders had to say. So I'm not sure if there's enough bandwidth in that schedule to maybe have a workshop or even maybe have a longer discussion because I know we're bound time wise tonight Just so we can get that feedback, hear what they've had to say. Because again, I think we wanna do this right because of some of the acquisition costs. But that'd be my thoughts, but look to the mayor and council president Wolf I for

I agree. It's we we council members are now not always experts in all those different areas, right? So we would like to hear feedback. What what do you think? Is that okay. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, everybody nods ahead. So yeah, we would like to we would like to have a maybe another workshop after the stakeholder outreach just to hear what those community member expert have to say about the the plan. Does

that Absolutely. Yeah. No. Actually, and that was built into the schedule. I mean, is such a high level thing. It didn't list, because in a previous part of the report talked about, coming back. Yeah. Like, basically, after the stakeholder outreach to share that with you all. So, no, that that makes perfect sense to me.

Good evening, mayor Hu, counselors. Skyler Warren, assistant director of community development. I just wanna chime in a little bit on the project schedule here. This is a proposed schedule. This project, unlike some of our other long range projects, is not on a specific timetable where we have to meet a statutory deadline or a grant deadline.

So we can flex this to accommodate the schedule and the feedback that counsel feels is necessary to get this right. We want to get it right. We want to take the time to do it. So we can adjust this, and we can certainly accommodate the stakeholder engagement that you're asking for tonight, as well as if we come back again and you feel like there is more engagement needed, we can do that as well. And I would just ask that you recognize that it will push the project back, but it sounds like everyone involved here wants to make sure that we accommodate everyone's feedback on this and, yeah, get it right for the future of downtown.

Yes. And we appreciate that. As Susan said, we want to do this right, right? So, yeah. So we appreciate more more feedback from that. So please do. So thank you. Alright. Any other comments or questions from council member? If none, thank you. Thank you, Susan for your presentation. We look forward to hearing more from you.

Thank you very much. Have a great evening.

You too. And there being no additional item, this meeting is adjourned. Good night, Tiger.