Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, September 1, 2026

The Board of County Commissioners approved a contract for the regional Home Energy Score Program Implementation despite public opposition regarding its cost and clarity of implementation. Public comments also addressed concerns about the county's Working Lands Conservation Strategy and a recent Growth Management Hearings Board decision.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of County Commissioners
Meeting Type
Board Of County Commissioners
Location
Thurston County, WA
Meeting Date
September 1, 2026

Transcript

55 sections

3:00Speaker 4

Recording Purogamikannu

3:10 – 3:46Speaker 2

Namaskaram. Welcome to Thursday's Thurston County Board of County Commissioners. Time is 2 pm. My name is Ty Menner, Board Chair. On my right is Vice Chair, Commissioner Wayne Fournier, Commissioner Carolina Mahi. On my left is Commissioner Rachel Grant, Commissioner Emily Close, County Manager Leonard Hernandez, Assistant County Manager Joshua Cummins, Jennifer Walker, Board Clerk Ami Davis. This program is being broadcasted on the Thurston County YouTube channel. The Board is adjourned until two hours before the public opinion session. On behalf of Commissioner McKay, we will now begin our speech. Thank you.

3:46 – 3:59Speaker 4

Everyone please stand up and begin your speech. I would like to express my condolences to the Republic of the United States. A country that does not allow freedom and justice for everyone under God.

4:06 – 4:54Speaker 2

Next is Land Acknowledgement. Mr. Vice Chair, let us begin with a Land Acknowledgement. Especially the Squaxin, Nisqually, Shahalis people. It is very important for all the people of all ages to have mutual respect and relationship with each other. The aim of this recognition is to prevent injustice directly and to remember the history of the past. Thank you, sir. Next, there is an agenda that has been rejected. Do you have the permission to accept it? I will refuse to accept it as the agenda has been rejected. The person who accepts the rejected agenda is the person who has the permission to accept it. Is there any discussion?

4:54Speaker 4

Those who agree, say yes.

4:56 – 6:03Speaker 2

Yes, yes, the permission has been accepted. Next, general opinions related to agendas. I will read the directions. Board of County Commissioners welcome the opinions of the public. To ensure that the opinions are correct, some directions must be followed. 1. Make it clear which agenda you are talking about. 2. Notify the board. 3. Make mobile phones silent. The board does not respond directly to the public's opinions. However, the County Manager can accept further instructions on specific matters if necessary. Those who speak will have three minutes to present the board. The time to speak cannot be given to others. Godly and noble behavior. The board has the right to decide on the needs of a person in the necessary circumstances. The board does not allow negative, negative, excessive, or discriminatory opinions. The board does not require any kind of criticism. The board does not require any kind of negative, discriminatory opinions. The board does not require any kind of criticism. The board does not require any kind of criticism. Don Baker continues.

6:30 – 8:02Speaker 4

Commissioner Mark Shubhadinam. I am Don Baker, President of Therston County Realty Association. From the beginning of the discussion on housing stability, ATC has been active as a partner. We are aware of the board's decision to make an emergency arrangement. Even though we are using that decision, we reject that decision. But today, the decision before you is different. The current question is whether the county is ready to move forward with this arrangement. We believe that there are still important questions that need to be answered before making it a reality. To inspect these real estate listings, to prepare complaints cases that contain details of the seller and the agent, to report details about real estate professionals through listing investigations, to refer cases to the enforcement, etc. At the same time, the procedures to control this process are still being developed. We still have doubts about how agents will handle, fix, share and use the real estate of a broker. Even though they seem to be just actions, they are important to those who need to run this program. Before the inspection and enforcement begins, the laws and responsibilities must be clear, and the constitution must not be changed after it comes into effect. These concerns have been addressed and opinions on TC have been given through Rega. Until we get these questions back, until we establish clear actions, we urge the board to temporarily suspend the approval of this bill. Thank you for your time and attention. Thank you.

8:19Speaker 2

Jen Chernet. Did I say that right? Yes. Right. Good day.

8:21 – 10:33Speaker 4

I'm Jen Chernet, Executive Officer of Thurston County Realty Association. I was able to spend time today by stopping all the reasons that I believe the Home Energy Score Ordinance County should stop temporarily. Since 2021, the prices of houses have increased by more than 30% and the price of electricity has increased by more than 2%. I wanted to talk about how the cost of building a house has decreased. I wanted to talk about how the cost of building a house has decreased. I wanted to talk about how the cost of building a house has decreased. In a county with more old houses, I was able to talk about the legal characteristics of the score given by the government for the largest property in one person at the time of sale. I was able to talk about the fact that only two authorities have accepted this recommendation in this way, which was distributed as a local agreement that contributes to the cost. Or I was able to talk about the fact that this board will discuss the necessary county benefits tomorrow. Emergency Management has decided to cut $1,777,000 this year and $64,000 more. At the same time, Public Health has decided to cut $8,079,000. Public Defense Funds and other funds are also included in the general fund cut. Two hours ago, you talked about raising the county level to get more property tax to support county services. Is it the time to allow $1,69,000 for a new method to take place? I think this is a question of justice. Therefore, I would like to ask you what is wrong with keeping this method temporary. After 2021, which came as a wish, a lot of things have changed. The direction of the institution has changed. Local proximity has also changed. Financial opportunities have also changed. The activities intended to support this have been cut short. We are still using the laws that will make this happen. In 2021, you don't have to decide whether these home energy scores were a correct decision. You just have to decide whether $1,69,000 is worth $1,69,000 today. I don't think that's a correct decision. Stop this. Check it again. Not for 2021 or Thurston County. Make sure today's Thurston County is worth it. Thank you.

10:50 – 11:01Speaker 2

Christina Janice Soap John Pedadon Greetings, Commissioners.

11:01 – 13:02Speaker 3

I am Christina Janice. I am a resident of District 3 and a local realtor. I, together with Jenny and Don, urge you to stop this until the county clearly implements the rules that govern this area. Real estate listings can be examined under the established system. Law enforcement cases can be created using the information of the sellers and agents. Memorization and recommendations can also be provided. In addition, reports from the information received through listing applications can also be made. However, there is no clear explanation that a broker or a real estate establishment or a seller is always responsible for the management and management of a real estate. Or, the information about real estate professionals is not clear how to receive, care for, share or use. Before any system begins to accept and bind the details of me and my co-brokers, I need to know how that policy will be implemented. I have the right to know what sanctions are being imposed on me and my brokers. How will a listing broker and the representative of the seller and the Tamil County know each other? What is the plan to solve the errors? Who will get the policy details? Why is it being used? These are the basic questions that need to be answered before it is implemented, and not after that. First, establish clear laws and safety regulations. Only then can we decide whether to move this system forward or not. I have a little more time. I have a preview. We use Northwest MLS to list our properties. Yesterday, it was announced that the coming soon first look will be made on the 21st day before a property sale. How do you agree to that? That is a big question mark. Because according to the previous discussion, it was a complete listing. So there are a lot of unanswered questions. Also, we have not given you the opportunity to go forward as a profession and to conduct a comprehensive discussion with you. Thank you very much. John Pettit.

13:03 – 20:27Speaker 2

If anyone is not able to sign up, please let them in. My name is John Petta. I live on Richer Road, South East, in Olympia. I actually wanted to start from this point. We can talk about the voucher list being called responsible. Thurston County is not responsible. Not at all. According to the last question, you need to raise the level, but we don't have any responsibility. I know that because we deleted all the financial information from the computer and the website. We didn't even get a list of all the financial information that had to come in June. Now, if we talk about the voucher list, this is a good question. Have you really checked it? Most of you don't come to work for meetings all week. Sometimes you come only for a photo shoot. We need to start thinking about not only the people, but also the people who are affected. I think this energy score is an important example of this. It doesn't do anything about actual self-reliance. Nothing at all. This is another incident that we are going through. You must have heard about the complete failure of the Compliance Department, right? How do you think that the CPID Department, which is in compliance with the Hearings Examiner, should take more action? That is a mistake. Please show us something useful that they are looking for. I have given you my part in this. To be clear, all of you will vote for this, like the ones who have been replaced. Why? Because you are not representing the people or all their belongings, but because the living told you so. Every year, when 1,48,000 dollars and benefits are lost, it is easy to hear only what the living say. You are not even coming to work. Hey, don't come to work. Leave us alone. We will vote according to what you say at the meeting. Now, you must understand that each item there will face more difficulties. Because you have no idea about the value of the item. If that is so important to you, did you have energy scores when you decided to buy the Plum Street project? No. Stop whining. Start representing the people. Think about what it would be like if you were an object. Not whether you can use your power over others. Can I invite anyone? Can I have a photoshoot? Thank you. Is there anyone in the boardroom who would like to comment without registering their name on the agenda? No one is online. So, let's move forward. County Manager's Update. Thank you, Chair. I have a few updates for today's meeting. Kyle Bustard, the emergency manager of the county, has been selected as the state mutual aid coordinator for the Central West End Washington K2D response. Kail has invited other local workers to participate in the event. Through Kail's activities, our county is helping communities that have suffered severe damage from forest fires. Kail, thank you for your hard work and for your commitment to our community. In connection with emergency services, the Thelston County Emergency Preparedness Expo, which will be held at Lacey Community Centre on September 26, has been supported by Binnum Sangam. The Expo will take place from 10am to 1pm. I would like to invite you all to come and see how you and your family can respond to wild animals. You can find more details about our Expo on our website. Don't forget to add this to your calendar on 26th September. In addition to talking about the county's resource hub, I would like to share some figures from the block party event that took place on August 19th. More than 600 community members participated in the block party and made important contributions to it. Providence community health workers saved 112 clients. WorkSource and ParkMountain, along with 127 people, contributed to the industrial experiment. Our public health workers and residents were also there. They donated 214 vaccines and donated community awareness to the public. Thank you very much to all the community donors who made this year's block party so successful. The last update is about the National Voter Registration Day. September 15th is the National Voter Registration Day. To talk about this important issue, I invite Len Vadanabey, our executive director. Thank you, County Manager. Once again, my name is Len Vadanave from Therston County Elections. Thank you for celebrating National Voter Registration Day. We are grateful to you for helping the Auditor's office to raise awareness about registering and participating in the election. Voting is a part of our election, but if you haven't registered, you can't vote. On National Voter Registration Day in Therston County in 2026, it will be easier than Voter Registration Day. 16 and 17 and older people can register in advance. they will receive a ballot paper. If you have lost the ways to register automatically, you can register online at www.vote.vah.gov. You can register at our two voting centers in Thereston County until 8 a.m. on the same day. Please note that all those who have registered so far may update your voter registration details as needed. Once you have saved your wallet in one of our ballot dropboxes, you can sign up for a text message to know its status. Once again, thank you for your support in this matter and in other independent matters. That's it. Thank you. Share. Okay. Very good. We have letters of consent from 1 to 11. Consent items. Do you have a permission to accept? I am ready to accept the consent agenda. Yes, that is correct. The Department of Community Plan and Economic Development is one of the five Home Energy Score programs. We have Rebecca Harvey, Senior Climate Program Manager. Is what I said correct? Is there anything like that? Okay. Let's give the board the details. Greetings.

20:27 – 22:35Speaker 4

Greetings, Commissioners. I am Rebecca Harvey, Climate Mitigation Senior Program Manager at CPED. A regional home energy score for the development of the HACE program, which is a regional home energy score for the development of the HACE program, Earth Advantage, Earth Advantage, etc. will be approved by the government. The $1,69,000 grant is seen through the same fund as Olympia, Tumwater, Lacey, etc. According to the Inter-Local Grant of Thurston Climate Mitigation Collaborative, in 2026, the cost of Thurston County will increase to $20,000 and $22,250. It will be from 2027 to April 2028. Thurston County is operating as the Carrier Manager for this local initiative. At the same time, our members are also participating in the next round of community events in the city of Olympia. In this, general workshops and a series of meetings held by the Thurston County Realtors Association are also included. At this time, we will look for feedback and guidance on how to develop the program. In addition, we will give feedback on the complaints and monitoring of the association through Rega this week, as well as the guidance on the participation of the doctor. We would like to thank the Realtors Association for their active participation in this process. We would like to make sure that the program is successful and fruitful. It is a major achievement to accept this award with Earth Advantage. It assures that our local goals and time limits are being met as the HSE program begins to succeed when the needs arise within about eight months. Earth Advantage is a labor-based organization that has contributed to the official home energy score of the U.S. Department of Energy since 2017. Earth Advantage has been recognized as a state-of-the-art for its ability and efficiency in scoring. To learn more about the program and the program, we invite you to visit our website, thurstoncounty.gov. Thank you very much. Do you have any questions for Rebecca?

22:47Speaker 2

No, Commissioner H. Thank you.

22:49 – 25:02Speaker 4

Rebecca, thank you for sharing this information. I have a question. So far, I know that only the county and the city of Olympia were involved in this. But according to ILA, it is said that Tom Bader, Lacey, and Olympia will get a similar visa. If they are still in that process, how will it work? How will they get that visa? ILA stands for all local organizations that accept the Thurston Climate Mitigation Collaborative. The ILA continues to approve the two-year budget of the Executing Committee and appoints those who are in power to approve the budget. Therefore, the ILA has approved and approved the budget of each authority in 2025 and 2026 through the budget approval process. When we look at our budget for 2027, the cities are doing the same. All the demands for 2027 have been met. We will continue to wait for this recognition. The four officials you mentioned mentioned the cost of living in Tamil, but only we and Olympia have accepted this. I can't say for sure whether it is a tomato or a lacy, but they are not showing any great progress in this. So, are they saying that we don't share this cost with them or will they share it? Forgive me, if what I said was not clear, they are sharing it. They have approved this in their 2026 budget and approved it in 2027. They haven't passed the H.S. ordinance, right? That's right. In my opinion, they have the basic rights. If they agree to this requirement, the program will provide basic facilities there, and those who make the decision will understand it. That's what the staff told me. I have evidence from Rega that this has been included in the budget for this year. Rebecca, I'm asking you.

25:02 – 25:14Speaker 2

If this is accepted in the budget, it means that those authorities will spend a lot of money. Even if they don't accept it. Yes.

25:15Speaker 2

Where does this money come from in our budget? Is this from the General Fund?

25:23Speaker 4

From the Climate Mitigation Fund. Okay.

25:25 – 26:38Speaker 2

Isn't this a grant? Yes. Okay. This was actually a general fund. Yes. Then this is the money from the General Fund itself. In my opinion, when I first heard about the HS score, it was related to the climate study prepared for our COMPLAN. That's right. Yes, in the COMPLAN itself. That's right. That's a topic of discussion, the climate study of our COMPLAN, I am reading the general opinions received in it. According to this public opinion, the H.S. scores have not been included in the reports of the Department of Commerce. I'm just reading it now. I think it is true. I am examining all the procedures of the Vanija Vagup. I will tell you the exact details later. Okay.

26:56 – 27:15Speaker 4

But according to the county, this plant was developed in 2020 under the B1.1 climate regulation. This plant was created by the scientific process of Haridagraha Vataka Uddomanam Vishakalanam. So, this plant has been under the climate regulation for many years. Okay.

27:26 – 28:04Speaker 2

Ashley, can you tell us what the situation is right now? Commissioner, can you clarify what you are asking? Yes. I don't know where the things we discussed this morning are right now. My question is this, if the energy scores of the houses are not part of the timeline directions of the government, what should we accept? What does this mean and what will happen when the coming laws are implemented? Those coming regulations,

28:15 – 28:51Speaker 3

The decision taken by the board on this matter is my assumption that it is a long-term local initiative that is more likely to be implemented in a timely manner than it was implemented in the previous year. And let's investigate it. However, the main power behind it would be better to say about it than the Commissioner-Mensor and the Commissioners, Mahijay and Klaus. This is a major local initiative. And we didn't start it when we agreed to it. The only thing we are trying to do now is to make sure that the board takes a step forward.

28:51Speaker 2

I 100% agree with that.

28:52Speaker 3

Yes. This affects two things.

28:55 – 29:21Speaker 2

That was the end of it. The activities in the current system were going on like this. The temporary system was given priority and developed. I don't know how Vanija Vagup decided on their priorities. But I know how ours is. Because to prepare our temporary system, we have allowed consultants and community activities to spend a lot of money and all authorities. So I know that our system has a strong foundation. I don't know anything about the commerce checklist. I only found out about it this morning.

29:22 – 29:33Speaker 3

We will understand more things. We will do the things that are in our plans. But I cannot do it from today morning to this afternoon. However, HSHS should not be part of our KOMB plan. It is okay if it is not part of our KOMB plan.

29:33Speaker 2

But if it is not part of our KOMB plan,

29:45 – 30:07Speaker 3

This is part of the Temporary Regulation. No matter how it is implemented, it will continue to be part of the Temporary Regulation. That is why this is a local regulation, because it is implemented in a local regulation instead of a county regulation. The Board's suggestion to implement this local regulation does not make sense.

30:13 – 30:37Speaker 2

The Board has the right to make local organizations and initiatives run according to their wishes. That was the suggestion the Board gave to the residents that day. We can test it, but there is no indication that they will be able to afford it. Okay. And now? Is this being run through the MLS-MLS system? Is that what it means? Yes, there is a process for that.

30:38 – 31:22Speaker 4

This is part of the contract as a service grant. The procedures used to combine data sharing methods and their software systems to combine scores in MLS are included in this. All of these are included in the procedure of the karar. Therefore, when listing agents list a property in MLS, there will be a form and field to be created. It will show the score in the home listing. It will test a score and then send a link to the third party data center that takes care of the Earth Advantage. There, people can check the complete report of the house. Okay. I have to try to understand the part of the MLS.

31:31 – 31:47Speaker 2

The other day, when I saw one of the members of the ITC and TC representatives, they said, we talked to the MLS representatives. They are not willing to help, or they do not intend to include this in their activities. So, have we contacted them? We saw them.

31:47 – 34:21Speaker 4

Yes, at the beginning of the process of developing the Matrida ordinance, we met with them. Within the last two months, we talked to them again. They are investigating the details of how to do it correctly. According to my knowledge, they are very cooperative. They want to be a part of this, and they are very cooperative. So I'm not sure if we're talking to different people. But the people we're connected to are working for this. Do you have anything to say? Oh, go on. This is all I have to say. We do get a lot of details, but we have received a lot of reactions and objections on such controversial issues. I urge the commissioners to keep an eye on the bill. Most of the questions asked are answered in this bill. I don't intend to give you a job, Commissioner Fourier, because I know that you are involved in many other things. But this letter has 63 pages. There is a lot of information in it. I think that ITC, TC and UNHC are answering some of the questions about how to know what happens before all this happens. According to the report, if this is successfully carried out, the first phase will last until the spring. Therefore, the first phase is only program development. By the time the first phase is over, it will be the spring of 2027. The aim is to regulate 15 Home Energy Score Assessors by the spring of 2027. As a reference, this is on the 17th page of the Carrar. Deliverables have been sent there. They have a link there. I am not reading all of them. Real estate exam course, study goals, rubrica, exam course is ready to start. So, I think some of the questions we heard in the public opinion have answers to this. I am sure that all of you have read the Carrar. Because when I hear your opinions, I feel that you have read the entire Carrar. Therefore, I think that some of the questions will be solved if the experiment is successful. But it depends on whether the experiment will be successful and whether they will answer those questions. However, when I read the letter, there are many opportunities to connect with the Realtor Association. Therefore, I think that in the long-term development of this program, there will be many instructions from TCR. That's right, isn't it? That's right.

34:21 – 34:56Speaker 3

Right. Some of the things in this have been stated in the petition. As I said, the Olympic city is in charge of that part. The petition is run by the county council. So we are taking responsibility. Then we have scheduled three meetings with TCU in the calendar. I think September 14th will be the first in two weeks. Then in October, then in December or November. Then we have topics. Each part of the program development, including all the work, will be discussed with the realtors as a group, and their opinions will be accepted. Thank you. The burden of me is with me.

34:56 – 35:46Speaker 2

I do not deny the possibility that if anything goes wrong before the time is right, it will have to be stopped. But this is our effort to get stuck in that trap and to work through it. So, in my view, this is not something to be stopped. This is the thing. This is us. This is our responsibility to the public. I didn't know for sure that we would have to do this. But when we take into account all the promises and wishes we have received, this is our responsibility to fulfill those wishes. So, I definitely want to move forward through this. When we look at how things are applied and how questions are answered, we can always re-examine at the end if necessary. Thank you. When I go back to the budget, I have one more question.

35:46 – 37:41Speaker 3

That is about the second part, right? i.e., the first part is on the left and the second part of the budget is on the right. Then, how will those meetings take place? Especially when these are not approved by the authorities and they go through their own budget arrangements. This is to ensure that the county will not use it. I can accept it. Yes, we can have a meeting here. Because the budget for this is coming from the budget of the commissioner, not from the CPAD which is for the temporary regulation. However, there are very good facilities for implementing the things in ILE according to the provisions obtained by the officials who are members of ILA, ELA, and EEL. That is, we have the opportunity to say that some things cannot be funded from the provisions in our ILE. Just like that, we can move forward with them. No one will face any unexpected difficulties because of the increased timeframes. So, even if there are any shortcomings in the funding, or if another partner does it, it will benefit us in both ways. But anyway, we are responsible for $1,69,000. If we agree to that, things can't be changed. This has been done in groups. So there is a gap there, and there are also facilities in it. If we don't have funds, we can get out of it. Okay. Do you have any other questions for Jeevanakkar? No. I am expressing my intentions and intentions in this.

37:51 – 38:50Speaker 2

Following the legal instructions, I was leaving the voting booth last time. My wishes so far have not been fulfilled. Like I said last time, when I buy a car, I need a Carfax report. If I buy a house, I want all the details I can get. This is a good description. As a person who buys a house, I need this. I still want to stay away from this. I don't have time for that anymore. $70,000 is a lot of money, especially in this day and age. Even the front desks in the clerk's office have to be closed. We are trying to make other types of cuts happen. So, even if I like this effort and intention, I'm leaving the voting booth. Okay. But it has to be clear. Is there anything else to discuss? Is there a proposal?

38:50 – 39:58Speaker 4

For the implementation of the Regional Home Energy Score Programme, I propose to accept a $1,69,000 loan up to April 30, 2028. In addition, I authorize the implementation of Community Planning and Economic Development Direct Loans. In this, the fund will be reimbursed up to 10% of the jobs and the loans will be extended for up to three years. I also propose to accept a loan that is a great advantage. Discussion on the proposal. Yes, yes, as you know, the ordinance has been passed. I believe that it is our responsibility to make it happen. As Emily said, this bill is very powerful. It allows us to understand practical problems that may occur before the program comes into effect, such as education, business development, and so on. Therefore, I request this bill today. Okay. When we move forward, I would like to make it clear that I am ready to talk about things that need to be discussed and things that need to be known more. Other discussions.

40:03Speaker 2

Thank you to the staff.

40:04Speaker 4

I appreciate your work in this regard. Thank you. Okay, I need to vote.

40:09 – 40:26Speaker 2

Those in favour, say yes. Those against. That's it. The vote is passed. Okay, next is a public opinion related to public affairs. Mr. Pettit has given his name.

40:35 – 43:51Speaker 2

The same instructions. Mr. Pettit, you have three minutes. Thank you. Richie's name is John Pettit. During the hearing examinations, I have sent a letter to all of you about the importance of the county code. You are the managers of the county. It is you who are responsible for the Thelston County Hearing Examination process in the form of an independent constitution. There is one person there who said it publicly. I have sent you emails. It is an opportunity to show what is going on. There is evidence on your side. There is evidence of a secret meeting with your interpreter. You are three interpreters, Mr. Menzel. You need to understand what that is. The secret meeting is a part of the county code. I think that's a good way to do it. Now, I'm going to open up about the person I'm talking about. Mr. Windler. By using the hearing examiner, Vyajayan attacked him unnecessarily. As an administrator in the CPD, there is no direct law for the hearing examiner. So, in this process, they declared me as an administrator by mistake. Most of the cases that were declared by Sharon Rice, the hearing examiner, have been cancelled. In addition, my appeal to the public was this year from January 1 to June. Then, do you know? I received 6,000 emails. It is very unusual for someone who wants to be secretive and independent to have so much hope. Now, the fact is that in reality, it is the government that is responsible for protecting the county citizens. Then, you know, even if it is through a friendly relationship between a commissioner and a resident, you can decide that if the citizens are deprived of their rights, they should be given compensation. Mr. Windler will be able to give you $1.5 million for your illegal activities. This is an honorable matter, and the FBI will definitely take care of it. Now, either withdraw from his rights or stay out of it. You can't stay in between. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments from the public? Ms. Norton.

44:15 – 47:07Speaker 4

Namaskaram. Let me tell you a few things before I tell you my opinions. All the efforts you make to make good decisions and the activities you do to provide you with information and useful information are appreciated. However, my name is Betsy Norden. I represent South Sound Beard Alliance. As you know, on August 17, 2026, the decision was made by the Board of Directors of the Growth Management Hearings Board, which had made it impossible for Blackfeet to resume their career, in a comprehensive plan of 2045. South Sound Baird Alliance is an organization of 1,400 members of the National Audubon Society. It is a local organization of Thelston, Lewis, Mason Counties. Our mission is to protect the environment, promote environmental justice, and reduce the risk of climate change. What I am submitting here is in general language, but it is not accessible online. That is why we are sharing this with you here. If you have not read it so far, we expect you to read the entire decision. Because it is the comprehensive plan of the local government to implement the decision-making process and the comprehensive changes that need to be made in the Comprehensive Plan of the Palikhan County. The Growth Management Hearings Board passed the Comprehensive Plan of two major states. The issue of the decision of the county to rezone from Block E to Quarry property 620 to RRI was raised by the SSBA. GMHB said, When it comes to the rise of the SSBA, the board said that it was wrong for the county to accept the Quarry rezone and the eviction of the Bhooba in Bavi, because it was against the other facilities of this process. The board also decided that the VLQ reason and the benefits of land in Bavi are directly affected by the growth management act and the completion of goals. The bill from Future Vice is not in line with the requirements of the Climate Action and Growth Management Act. The Growth Management Hearings Board is also against this bill. Due to the magnitude of the Future Vice, the board claims that it is wrong to accept the Climate Action Bill of the County. Because of the reduction in the number of climate action proposals, it is not in line with the RCW 3,67,807.9. or RCW 3,67,820.14. The full version of this 68-page resolution has been included in our witness letter through RECA. It will be included in this meeting and will be available to anyone who can read it. When we think about your next steps, we urge you to accept this resolution. We assure you that it will benefit the people of Thurston County, the situation, and the wildlife in the future. Thank you very much. Thank you.

47:18 – 47:32Speaker 2

Do you have any other general opinions? For the board

47:41 – 51:18Speaker 1

Hello, Commissioners. For those who don't know me, my name is Scott Nelson. I have been living in Thurston County all my life. Next, I saw a post about a working land strategy in Thurston County on Facebook and a recommendation from an educational group. From the Facebook post, I can read to you that after three years of long cooperation between farmers, landowners, tribal groups, and conservationists, Thurston County has completed its Working Lands Conservation Strategy. I would like to ask you all to review the study of those who participated in the three projects run by this group. Only one person represents as a farmer is in that study. Twenty-six people. Those who represent land trusts, that is, those who participate in those meetings, will get 35%. If not 28%, then 21% of Thurston County residents, the remaining 35% will come. Washington Fish and Wildlife is one of the groups that have not benefited from the situation. I don't think it's surprising that the majority and all subordinates that come from this are for promoting development rights and for promoting funding for the county. Who benefits from this by selling development rights? Only for land trusts and the county. There is a belief about trust even in a systematic manner. I am asking the county commissioners. I have said this before when I came here. If you do not hire farmers to talk about the conservation of agricultural lands, how will you build trust? Let me say that I have not seen a farmer or even a small landowner there. So how will we bring these people? Believe us. Tell them that we are working for this. The same goes for the right to grow and the right to change hands. But they are not doing anything for economic stability. I first heard about this when I was at the American Farmland Trust. If you don't have money to farm, you don't have to worry about how much land you have. Do you know? I am 52 years old. When I was 13 years old, I started working in my family's farm. Most of my life, that was my main job. This year, it is the highest wage I have ever seen. And yet I am in trouble. It is not entirely your fault. It is the fault of the government. It is the fault of the federal government. Washington state is the lowest out of 50 states in the world. That is, it is 50th out of 50 in the monetary state. So, if you want to talk about this or want to do something about it, I'm here. I've been in the Planning Commission for 20 years. When someone talks about something like this, do you know who to tell? Let's give some context. Double Quote.

51:26 – 51:47Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you. Anything else? Comments? Okay. Commissioners, community reports. Commissioner. Oh, I wanted you not to start from me. Because I'm not ready. Okay. Commissioner, media.

51:47 – 52:50Speaker 4

Thank you. We had an announcement from you. I was leaving the office for my health. I will report on one thing. I participate in meetings, but today I will make the report short. Inner City Transit is looking for new members for their community advisory committee. You can apply from the website innercitytransit.com or go directly from the Olympia Transit Center. Applications must be submitted on October 2, 2026. The appointments are scheduled for November 6, Friday. If you are interested in becoming a part of the Community Advisory Council, this is a great way to get in touch with transit and ask important questions. So, I participated in the MS Council meeting.

52:50 – 54:17Speaker 2

It was a small thing and there was nothing special to report. On Friday, I completed the last part of my summer Thurston County Park trip. It may have been the most amazing trip ever. It's hard to say. Everything was amazing. Fry Cove is really amazing. I've never been there in my life. From my perspective, it's very far. Even though it's very far, it's more beautiful to see. That's where we had lunch. I didn't know there was an island there. That's a great thing. I don't know if all of you know this, but we have taken the land from the Fish and Wildlife Museum, and it is full of the smell of the land. That's why there's a big park there, and if you have a permit, you can go there during the season and catch crabs. That's a very nice thing. In the opinion of the park residents, it's very popular. Then for people, as you know, it's the smell of the land. Their main complaint was that the sink was smelly when they washed their poop. But I didn't know that we had such a facility. Then, where did we go the other day? That was the most important thing. We visited some other park lands other than parks. We had a lot of activities in the county. It was a good day. Time was spent well.

54:28 – 56:54Speaker 4

Yes, after the last update, I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. Then I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. Then I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. Then I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. Then I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. Then I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. Then I took part in the fire commissioners of Thurston County in Lawrence. I also came back from Ayovai and visited three of my family's farmhouses. I inquired about the status and importance of Kashi Ka Meghalaya, and I would like to accept that Scott came here and spoke about it. I would like to spend some time on it. Some of the important details from the Nisqually River Council are that the Nisqually Watershed Festival will be held on September 26th. The event will be held on October 4th for the Land Trust Salman. The Land Trust community is looking for a part-time part-time part-time participation in the ongoing activities. For this, some discussions are now taking place. I feel that some very active conservation activities are taking place there. I would like to talk about the reconstruction of the pulmets and the oaks near Elmina. Due to the activities taking place there, the birds of West End Bluebird have successfully hatched eggs. I thought it was a very beautiful thing, so I named it. They have been working hard for a long time for this. Another important thing to mention is that Salman's activities in Lower Ohop are continuing. They used helicopters to move the trees from the community forest to Brighton Creek. It was a very important thing. It felt very beautiful. Also, I would like to talk about some of the activities that are going to take place in the conservation district. A family harvest festival, farm-to-table harvest dinner, as well as the day of the reintroduction of orcas at Squags Park on October 17. Therefore, there are a lot of things to do related to the conservation activities in this period. That was my report. One more thing, thank you.

56:54 – 57:32Speaker 2

If you get the opportunity to visit the community forest, definitely go. It is really amazing. River tours and snowshoeing tours are also held there. I was able to do it when I went as a replacement for the Commissioner. It was a great experience. On September 26, when you go to the Nisqually Watershed Festival, don't forget to attend the Tumwater Falls Festival. Bluegrass music will be played for an hour. It may be the Commissioner's style. So it would be good to be able to see you in District 3 and District 2.

57:36 – 58:19Speaker 1

Yes. Okay. Commissioner, I have two more things to say about me. I was happy with the Glacial Heritage Preserve. I thought most of us would have gone there. I was able to see the entire area. It is very big. It is 1100 acres. This is what we have on site. This is managed by the Center for Natural Lands Management. They use fire to manage the ponds. This is very interesting because I understand that ponds are not a natural habitat. This is one of the things that can be prevented by wild animals and fire. I had previously suggested that a group of bison should be left there to plow the earth. I don't know if you liked this idea, but I think it's a good idea. I support it.

58:19 – 59:10Speaker 2

Yes, and the other thing is, this is what I wanted to make clear. So, I asked if everyone knows that we have a clam bed in a pond. I'm sure no one else knows this, but you do. Now, we have a problem. From 1869, we have our own cemetery in Thurston County. This is a pioneer cemetery that started in 1818. This is not that big. This is a small area. It is just a small piece of land in the gate area. But when you walk through it, you will get a good sense of history. There are a lot of dead bodies that can be read about the lives of different people. Then it was very interesting to see. This is the old-time Thurston County. We are responsible for it. I thought it was very interesting. Good.

59:19 – 1:04:47Speaker 4

Good. I conducted a meeting with the office of Senator Conwell. I think all commissioners will do it immediately. That's a good thing. I saw a new lifeblood who is interested in joining the county. That's very exciting. I participated in the South Sound Sustainability and Climate Coordination Call. Also, there is another very exciting thing. We visited Mountain View Elementary's Orchid Lazy Monitoring site. Congresswoman Strickland and Representative Lisa partially participated in it. We took part in the celebration with three other guests. I have been there before, but I have been able to learn more things this time than last time. So it was very interesting. We talked about forest fire and how it changed during the fire about the quality of the air. We actually tested PM2.5 and PM2.5 data. That was several years ago. They have included it in a slide and given the conditions according to the quality of the air on the day. That is, this is the quality of the air that has been in the air for years. All days have been soaked in this. It means that if any day had not been soaked, the site would not have been able to operate on any day. It has been one or two years since it has turned to purple. That is, the situation is very bad. It should be green, then yellow, red, orange, and so on. Purple is in a very bad condition. This happens when there is a fire in the forest. For the past few years, we have seen that the fire in the forest has greatly affected the quality of our air in Thurston County. Looking back ten years, it is very noticeable that the fire in the forest is not very big. This is certainly making a lot of noise. But it was a good opportunity to talk about the things that are happening locally, including our state, work with federal representatives, and all the activities that are taking place. I also participated in the second annual community connections event with Olympia Mutual Aid Partners. Last year, Commissioner Minzer was there. This was their second event. I talked again about this. One of the directors of the Franklin Street Harm Reduction Center also spoke. It was very good to hear how those partnerships are working. We talked about the needs of the community with the volunteers and the partners. We also talked about some of the big names that they are proud of for helping people like Bhavanara. We heard the details directly from the people involved in the operation to understand how to cooperate with the county and community to deal with the shortage of these services. I had a reporter in touch with me to know about the rise in the number of youth in Thurston County. So we talked about it. It seems that there has been a big rise in the number of youth aged between 18 and 25. The reason is that young people are counted as young people at this age. But even children under the age of 18 have an increase in obesity. So I think this is something we need to pay attention to. There is a need to investigate whether the county can provide any help. When I asked the reason why the county is providing help, I tried to answer that question again. Because I know that we are providing a large amount of funds to community members for these activities. But I don't think that the county has a backup plan for those community members who can't work and support the community as much as they can. Because we are experts in many other things. That's why it was nice to think about what we should do. The county has already announced our plans, but it is still raising the problems of young people. So it's just a discussion going on in the community. I took part in the Harvest Festival in Juvenile Kodathi. There we saw the garden. This is the second time I am taking part in this event. It is very important to see how much young people are getting paid. Thousands of pounds of food is given to food banks and other local associations. This is a great way for young people who are in the judicial system to return to society. We heard the details from some of the youth in the program and from those who were willing to help even if they were disabled from the program. All the youth who participated came in their own way. There were about 15 youths there. It is a great thing to see that the youth of this community and their faith and the need of the community have returned to the program because they believe in it. That's why it's a great thing to see that in Thurston County and everywhere, the situation of bird protection is increasing again, and the youth are recognizing that need and trying to solve that problem. That's why it was a very good thing to see. I am going to take part in an event of FGC. Their door system, their entire control system, and I will be able to spend time with the youth in the garden. There are still a lot of things to sell. So I think we can get there quickly to help them. Because it would be very nice to see them in action. That's all I have to say. Okay. Thank you.

1:04:56 – 1:06:46Speaker 2

Yes, I don't have my full list of phones in my hand. That's why I'll just say what I remember. State Building Code Council meetings are going on a lot. We have a new program for code changes this year. It is giving more work to the council. That's why I have two-hour work sessions every week. In addition, there are meetings that are six hours a week every month. That's why it takes a lot of time. Salman Recovery Council's Office We have a forum about the permit policy issues at the end of September and how it is related to the resumption of Salman. That is why I am a part of the planning team. Yesterday we had a meeting together. By May 20, I am in another planning meeting of the housing subcommittee or housing forum. I have a meeting tomorrow at 2 o'clock. The block party for the resource hub was very good. I co-operated with the district council. I participated in the partnership of Shahalis Basin. I also participated in the meeting of others as a new representative of Senator Canwell. The Endewan Onwan Prep Meeting and Harvest Festival were held for the Lord Board meeting. This is the 4th or 5th time. They do it every year. It is a great event. It felt great to hear the words of the children. We always hear how excited they are about their future plans. Then we had the opportunity to present a new building. The representatives of LD22, the Assistant County Manager and the Vice-Chair asked questions about the project and the needs. Presidency of Parsley and the Presidency. Senator. We were able to get a lot of encouragement from Senator Bateman. He was outside the Presidency's Dolly town. But they asked good questions. Josh gave good feedback. I think we will get a lot of support for our needs in this Legislative Assembly. Okay. Very good. The agenda ends here. Thank you all. We are leaving.

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