Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Okay, good morning.

Welcome to the Thurston County Board of County Commissioners. Agenda setting work session for Tuesday, July 14th, 2026. It's 9.06 a.m. My name is Ty Mentzer, Chair of the Board. To my left, Vice Chair Commissioner Wayne Fournier, Commissioner Emily Klaus, Commissioner Rachel Grant, Commissioner Carolina Mejia, virtual and County Manager Leonard Hernandez, Assistant County Manager Jennifer Walker, Clerk of the Board Amy Davis. Meeting is being live streamed to the Thurston County YouTube channel and public written comment, written public comment may be received up to two hours in advance of the meeting and distributed to the board. Action may be taken at this meeting. And we have a few items, but primarily we're looking at next week's business agenda first review. So let's pull that forward. And that meeting will be called to order at 2 p.m. per usual. Pledge of Allegiance to be led by Commissioner Mejia. Land acknowledgement, approval of agenda. And then we have two presentations. Madam Clerk.

Yes, thank you, Chair. We do have two presentations next week. The proclamation for the Thurston County Fair and the NACO Awards presentation. And so next week we'll run through the presentation segment a little differently than normal. For the Thurston County Fair proclamation, we'd invite all commissioners down and out to the parking lot where the calf was a few months ago. We'll now be a pig, a sheep, and a goat. You tripled it. So we'll take a photo downstairs with the animals outside prior to the meeting. So we invite you to come down about 1.30, 1.45 next Tuesday for the photo, and we'll have the speakers for the proclamation there for that as well. Our speakers for the proclamation during the meeting include Thomasina, the fair manager, and a few members of the fair board. We will then jump into the NACO awards, which will be introduced by the county manager, and then we would ask for a recess to hold the awards presentation in the open atrium area behind us over here.

Part of that presentation, departments and offices who've worked so hard to win these awards have been invited to invite the staff that have worked alongside them on the specific programs that were submitted for the recognitions. So we anticipate having quite a few department and office staff out there. It's the reason why we're asking the board to take a photo for the fair, so it has its special time prior to the meeting starting. And then we can focus the intermission on the NECO awards and all the hard work staff did to win with a total of 30?

30 NECO awards. That's amazing.

So if I get this, so the kind of extra piece for the fair will be before the meeting, and then when they get to that part of the presentation, it'll just be like speaker, and then we'll go straight to Nico, and then we'll recess and address kind of that piece with a recess during the meeting. Okay, I think I got that. Any questions on the presentations for next week? Dress accordingly for your pig photo. All right, public comment and then county manager update. Nothing to update at this time, Chair. Consent items, we have one through ten. First one is...

I did wanna point out that there is a public health item. Maybe the directors could come forward and speak to it. There's an item that made it onto the agenda, but there's a companion item that due to the legal and risk review came a little bit later. new system closed before they could get it in. So it accidentally populated on the next business meeting. But these are companion items that have money in and are supposed to be money out. The clerk will email the item to the full board just after the meeting. But I wanted Dr. Freiheit maybe to, if we could call that meeting out of order, you could speak to it and then speak to what the companion item is.

Just go ahead and present sort of what that is. Great, thank you. This is for the third item, I believe, under department items on the developmental disabilities contract. So this is the longstanding agreement we've had requesting for the board to move to approve the agreement with Washington State Department of Social Services, Department of Disabilities Administration, or DDA, in the amount of $7,830,473. This started July 1, 2026, and ends 6-30, 2027. Can I stop you for a minute? Yep. Just to make sure, I'm not seeing the item.

It's the last item. It's the last item. It's under department. Under department, yeah. Okay. Sorry.

Thank you. So this is just a renewal of that agreement, and the county uses these funds to provide services for adults with developmental disabilities in both Thurston and Mason counties, and to provide information to the community and training for clients, families, community members, and contracted service providers. So the item that's on the department items today is us accepting the money, the money coming in. And then the follow-up item is we need to send the money back out. So it would go to our entities that we work with for job transition, which are CareerQuest, CenterForce, Compass Career Solutions, which is a new one, Exceptional Foresters, Morningside, and BOTUS. So they're kind of packaged together, they go together so that we can both take the money in, which we're already now past the start of the contract, and then submitting the money back out to those entities.

And the item that didn't make the agenda, again, the clerk will grab it from the agenda system that's in the wrong date and send it out to the full board. And then Dr. Freyheit and her team are available to answer any questions as you review the details of that item. If you have them, follow up and be ready for next meeting's agenda review as well. Sounds great.

So it'll be item two under sub eight? Yes. Second public health item. Questions at this point from the board for Dr. Freyheit? Thank you.

Great, thank you. Thanks, Chair. Let's take that out of order.

So back to consent item one, which is a lease of 708 Chestnut Street Southeast parking stalls for procession of the species.

Yeah, thank you so much. I know that our assistant county manager is off this morning taking care of some family business. This is an item that I want to give special thanks to our Central Services Director and Assistant County Manager Joss Cummings for identifying a community need. Recession Species was being asked to remove some of their float equipment and storage from a couple of locations and needed an interim spot to place these items. So what we were able to work through with our legal team and risk team and Central Services was the use of the, at the new campus, we have an enclosed parking garage that we don't need for a period of months until we effect the move out there. And so this lease takes advantage of that, and we're here to answer any questions.

Questions? I wanna thank you guys for working on this. It's one of those oddball things that we don't have to do, but it's really, those folks do a lot for the community and they've struggled, you know, through COVID and afterwards to, to find the right space for their projects. So glad we were able to help.

Yeah. It's a temporary one year lease. Temporary one year lease. Really appreciate Kim and her team. They moved a lot of things around. Like you said, isn't something we have to do, but knowing that the benefit to the community and then Josh, immediately jumped on this. Special thanks to Commissioner Mejia for putting them in touch with us. So good team effort.

Okay, there's no questions there. We'll go to item two, collective bargaining agreement with office and professional employees, inter-nation union, local eight, juvenile court.

Good morning, commissioners. Maria Ponte, HR director. This item before you is to approve the collective bargaining agreement. OPEIU, the Office of Professional Employees International Union, represents our juvenile detention officers. The term of the contract is January 1, 2026 to December 31, 2028. provided you some follow-up information. If you have any additional questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

There was an e-brief we had, or I believe. E-brief and some follow-up details. Got it. Questions for Maria on item two.

Thank you, Maria.

Thank you.

Yeah, just a special thanks to Maria and to Cameron.

Cameron especially.

There's a lot of work that goes into this, and I often see him in the wee hours of the morning and leaving here after hours as he's working this through. So we appreciate the work he's doing on behalf of all our hardworking employees in the county.

Thank you. I'll share that.

Item three is request for proposals. Lake Lawrence phosphorus mitigation for algae control.

Welcome back again. All right, Jen Freiheit, Director of Public Health and Social Services. Yes, this is beginning in May of 2024, the Lawrence Lake Steering Committee partnered with Herrera Environmental Consultants to develop an integrated phosphorus management plan, or IPMP, to address elevated phosphorus levels in the lake. These elevated nutrient levels contribute to recurring algae blooms, including harmful cyanobacteria blooms, and excessive aquatic weed growth, which negatively affect the water quality and recreational use. And with the IPMP now complete, the steering committee is seeking to contract with a qualified firm to implement the recommended treatment strategy and restore the long-term health of the lake. And the lake steering committee will be responsible for the development and the execution of the plan. So this is just a request to allow PHSS to issue an RFP for that work. I'm happy to answer any questions.

Any questions for Dr. Freiheit on item three? Thank you. And four is public health, 2026 to 31, interagency agreement for well construction delegation.

Yes, thank you. This is also a request for the board to move to approve an interagency agreement with Washington State Department of Ecology for well construction delegation for the period of July 1, 2026 through June 30, 2031. This agreement is a longstanding renewal for the interagency agreement with the DOE The partnership has been in place since 1996 and authorizes Environmental Health to conduct inspections of newly constructed and decommissioned water wells on behalf of the state, maintaining continuity of this longstanding partnership and our role in supporting compliance with the state well construction standards and the protection of groundwater resources. Under this agreement, we will inspect at least 40% of the newly constructed wells and 25% of the decommissioned wells. And the compensation is between 12 and 14,000 based upon 50% of the DOE notification fees collected for water well construction and decommission within Thurston County. I'm happy to answer any questions if you have any.

Any questions on this item? We'll go on to item five, amendment 16 to the Washington State Department of Health Consolidated Contract.

Yes, this is the newest consolidated contract, amendment number 16. This is for renewal of the new year. So it is based upon the reductions that were just applied in the last quarter. So through foundational public health services. It also amends some of the scope of work of some of our other pieces in there, but those are relatively minor. So it provides our total amount of FPHS. So it counted as an increase of 3,167,000 for a revised maximum consideration of the entire consolidated contract of 14,094,455. for the duration of January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2027, because the Con Con is a two-year program. I'm happy to answer any questions.

When we had sort of notice of some reduction of funding for the government, does that flow through this contract? Correct. Okay. So what we're seeing here isn't really anything different than what we would have been. most recently briefed about in terms of where that overall level looks.

Our FPHS contribution used to be $3,900,000 and it got reduced, or $3,800,000, I'd have to do the math, and it got reduced that $692,000. And so then it puts it back in as the new FPHS dollars, just $3,167,000. So it counts as an increase. It's not an increase, it's an adjustment to the amount that we put in for FPHS.

These are questions for... Nope, okay. Then you got the next item. 2728, veterans request for proposals.

Yes, thank you. You may recall back in January, we had come last year at this time to do our very first request for proposals for the Veterans Assistance Program, the Veteran Project Grant. We did that as a one-year RFP, and in January we came to you and talked about the entities that were chosen and got approval for those. and they're moving along swimmingly. For example, the food bank is doing outreach to veterans. That's going very well. The wheelchair lift van for the Veterans Resource Hub is getting wrapped and so we'll plan to have a commemoration of that that's coming up and other programs that were funded under this first time project grant. And so now this is coming to you for a second round, looking to now move it from one year to two years. So it'd be a total of $1 million, 500,000 for each of the two years.

um and we request to be able to put out the rfp for that so this would start january 1st of 2027. thank you um i would love to see this on department items um i think this is a really awesome opportunity and just showing the public the successes that we've had and then um why we're doing it again i think would be great and we're happy to happy to make some sense to me too

All right, no other questions on that item. We'll go to item seven, thank you. Item seven is reappointment to the Solid Waste Advisory Committee, or SWAC.

Yes, we've received the appointment letter from the City of Yelm to reappoint Councilmember Brian Hess.

Okay, that sounds good. Any questions or concerns about All right, I'll go forward. We have appointment to Historic Commission. Avery Hartzell.

Yes, this was reviewed by the board prior to the recess. So it's just the final action to appoint Ms. Hartzell.

So it's an alternate spot?

Alternate. Alternative, maybe that's a typo. Oh, yes. Alternate.

And you're going to fill in the district?

Yes, that was confirmed with her. So we'll get that updated.

Okay, vouchers for June 8th.

Yeah, go ahead. I jumped ahead in our agenda, and we have an application for the Veterans Advisory Board for John O'Callaghan. Can we add that to this agenda? Personally, I've known John for a very long time, and I'm very comfortable moving his application forward if everyone else is comfortable with it. I think everyone here knows him. We have vacancies.

There are vacancies.

Any... but I'm moving Mr. O'Callaghan forward. Two thumbs. Commissioner Mejia.

I'm good. Okay. Commissioner Grant. I'm good too. Okay.

Yeah, that sounds pretty good to me. I just want to kind of be careful. I think that he's a great fit. I have no issues moving forward. I just want to be careful with moving things quickly because we know people. But I think given that we're coming back from recess and it's been a little bit of time since we've met, I'd be okay with moving this forward a bit more quickly.

Okay, yeah. And for me, there's two vacancies so that, you know, and we all know the applicant, so that would make sense to me. And there have been vacancies for a bit on that committee. Okay, good. Well, then, if there's no questions on items 9 and 10, which are June 8th and June 15th vouchers, then we go to Central Services, which is, pardon, item 6-1, New Market Property Acquisition.

Hello, good morning. Kim Burnett, Director of Central Services, and Mike Lohman, Central Services Capital Projects Program Manager. It's an alphabet. We are requesting approval to authorize the county manager or designee to proceed with the closing on August 31st, 2026 of the purchase of the property located at 7721 New Market Street, Southwest Tumwater, including the reassignment of the Port of Olympia ground lease. This is per the approved purchase and sales agreement that was signed on May 29th, 2026. The purchase price is $2.5 million plus closing costs. As part of our due diligence, Central Services completed an independent third-party appraisal, building inspections, and feasibility study. These evaluations confirmed that the property is well-suited to meet the county's operational needs for the foreseeable future. The property will serve as the Thurston County Sheriff's Office evidence storage facility, vehicle impound yard, and large vehicle storage site. The acquisition is included in the 2026 through 2031 Capital Improvement Program and will be funded through Public Safety Sales Tax. Happy to answer any questions.

Questions? We've had multiple work sessions on this. There might have been an executive session because of real estate over the last couple months. And yeah, this is kind of a... a final piece of the sheriff's infrastructure, which we thought might be able to be accommodated on site, but it wasn't able to be. So this is our next best option by a long shot. Yes.

Correct. I think a chair just to add some context, uh, staff, central service staff and the sheriff had been looking for a fun facility in a site for their impound for several years. and the search has looked at different options about building from scratch versus looking for a different location. Staff's analysis on this facility showed that there would be a significant savings with purchasing this site versus keeping the level of lease. Very proud of the staff for the work they did in the negotiation process because based on the appraisal, staff were able to secure this site market value. And in coordination with the sheriff, this has been a needed, uh, added component to their operation and the thought about, uh, and so the facility that they're currently leasing came up for sale. So the county was in a position that if we didn't secure this site, not being able to find any other site that was suited and met their needs, the cost for building from scratch being cost prohibitive, looking at other leases, and then the renovation costs that have to go in. Quite a bit of analysis went in to determine that this was the best location. So I think that elaboration is very helpful for the public that will see this item for the first time, because I know that these items, rightfully so, had to be discussed in executive session because of the nature of a real estate deal. But we are pleased with the work that staff have done. And that has been also echoed by the sheriff believes that for operation purposes and for costs, the best approach. Any other questions for the central services team?

Thank you. Item seven, commissioner's office item, placeholder, this placeholder. Is this placeholder?

Yes.

So we are having this for sure?

We'll have this item. The item itself is still with legal for final review and approval.

Okay. So the item is a resolution for 26-27 biennial budget, special amendment one. And then if a problem arises, you can get bumped, but hopefully not. Summer Miller.

Yes, that pretty much sums it up. We have the resolution and attachments being reviewed by legal. We're just finalizing some last... language specifics, but we do anticipate having that in your hands tomorrow afternoon.

And these are really a set of technical changes, really not a set of substantive policy level changes, so just for the public's awareness.

Absolutely, yes. There was a work session on this where Summer presented a PowerPoint and went through for the board's information what the amendment would consist of.

Yes.

Okay, any questions for Summer? Thank you.

All right, thank you.

with public comment for general matters, and then community reports from commissioners, and there are no public hearings, so that wraps the first review of that, and let's go to our next item, which is advisory board's update.

The only item for review today was the application for Mr. O'Callaghan. We've got direction on that, so we'll move forward and add him to the July 21st business meeting.

There were some other applications we have one more position There are a couple others that are going to the veterans advisory board for their recommendations

perhaps a quick update on the TSD recruitment. We continue to recruit for that. We have received a few applications, and so we'll bring those to you all shortly.

Okay, great. And I'll get Commissioner Mahan one second, but I just want to bring up, because I don't think it was mentioned, I didn't, that with Mr. O'Callaghan, who we just advanced, he already went through that process with the advisory board and got recognized.

Thank you. So Timberland Regional Library since Mr. Jewett has removed his name from the Mason County I just wanted to ask the board how we are planning to proceed with that appointment. Are we planning to reach out to the previous applicant. Are we planning to do a recruitment and interviews again. What is what is the steps that we're going to take in regards to that.

My understanding is that the previous applicant, we've been keeping them apprised because this was obviously not what we expected to happen. And they've continued to show their interest in having that seat. So it would be my expectation that we would forward the person that we previously selected unless the board.

Several weeks ago, gosh, it might've been two months ago now that the board asked that our clerk reach out to the applicant and just send an email, letting them know that, the board is still very much interested in their candidacy, but that we were working through the dynamics with the approval process with the other counties. Knowing now that the other county has with, that their applicant has withdrawn their name, we can work with Timberland Regional Library System to resubmit that name and then the staff at Timberland Regional Library System sends it out to all the other counties to get that approval process.

The group of commissioners that have been meeting about this, and you guys had me be that commissioner, but we emailed about some things that were... some related items and it was indicated by Commissioner Tarswell of Mason County that yes, and they have, they're moving quickly, but they have a number of applicants and the desire on all sides is to get that board filled. So I think it would slow, I mean, again, if our applicant didn't wanna be in there and there would be every reason why it looks like a different job than maybe she thought she was signing up for. So I definitely wanted that touch point. But I think there's value in not starting a new process. Because if we start a new process, I'm sure we will have, just like Mason County, an avalanche of applicants. She was an excellent applicant. An avalanche of applicants and trying to sift through all that and pick someone else would really slow us down, which would really hamper the TRL board's needs to have that board, which has been operating shorthanded for now. a year or more. So anyway, I think that's just an additional consideration to why we might want to stay the course.

Yeah, the board did a very robust process and had a number of applicants and took time in its interview process. I do know that the current selection from the board has been in communication with the clerk of their interests. And so we've not heard anything otherwise. Otherwise, I think that would be a consideration if they said they're not interested anymore. Oh, yeah.

Well, then we'd have to probably be saying, let's move quickly on. Or Commissioner Mejia. Yeah, if I had heard anything like that, I would be saying, let's get it out there and the two missing trustees. Commissioner Mejia.

Yeah that's that was I just wanted to know like what direction we were going to head in and there was direction we needed to give to staff to make sure that you know I don't think she has to come back in front of the board's agenda for reappointment because it was already passed through so maybe just pinging TRL staff and making sure it gets on the Mason County agenda. I just want to be sure that those seats are filled.

Yeah we will and then next couple of days, send out an email to TRL, asking them to circulate, uh, our candidate for reconsideration from all the counties.

Yeah. I'm really hopeful. This will be a somewhere quickly and be a really positive thing for the library. Yep. Okay. Uh, anything else on advisory boards? Yeah. Uh, commission me here.

Sorry, chair. Uh, I was also thinking maybe it would be advisable that, uh, you sit down, with them before they get appointed and kind of go through the concerns of kind of the board and go through some of those items?

Sure. Yeah. And an update on, I don't, I think I told the board that we were taught, one of the things we were talking about was to the extent there are things that the counties agree on, we don't agree on everything. It's kind of, you know, obviously, but there are several things we did agree on. And so we wanted to find a way to communicate kind of with a unified voice, those things to the trustees collectively, there was talk about maybe having an executive session of sorts, but, and so that's what I've been working on over the, over the recess was their attorney and trustees and our attorney and trying to figure out, does that fit? And the conclusion was that didn't really fit. Um, what we were trying to do in terms of an executive session. It's arguably things that we would wanna talk about might be beyond the scope and it just wasn't quite right. So my idea was, okay, well, the alternative would be to kind of do somehow sort of like we do with commissioners when staff wants to brief us on something like groups of two, three is a quorum for them right now with five. So we could have like back-to-back Zooms, so we basically speak together with them. but the consensus was let's get the two new board members seated and then do that. But in the interim, I could certainly kind of do a preview of that as Commissioner Mejia suggests with our applicant just kind of giving her a heads up of hey, these are kind of, I assume she's tracking all the ins and outs of this situation, but it would be good to make sure that she has a full briefing on kind of what has happened and what we think are issues to be addressed moving forward. I'm happy to do that.

We'll also email her. I'm sure the clerk can email her and let her know that we're recirculating her name and that the chair will be reaching out to have time to meet.

Yeah, absolutely.

Sounds good. Yeah. Copy me on that. And then I can, I can run with that.

Okay. And just for the board's awareness, that seat, the Thurston County member at large seat does expire at the end of this year. So in December, we will bring that back to you for a potential reappointment or.

For this same seat?

Yes.

All right. We'll deal with that. Okay. Anything else for advisory boards? Okay. Next up is a proposed proclamation to 90 stone carvers inclusion in the congressional time capsule.

This is my request. So there was a time capsule, congressional time capsule being filled with stuff from all over the country. There's a few items from Washington State that are included, and one of those is a sandstone apple that Keith Phillips carved. And it's pretty cool. It's gonna be sealed up for like the next 250 years, and then some aliens or whoever 250 years from now are gonna unearth that thing and look at what came from Thurston County. So with that in mind, I put together this proclamation in honor of that. And with the board's approval, I'd like it so I can go present it. And I'm also using this to, apply or to nominate Keith, and he's not gonna be watching this, I doubt, to nominate Keith for like a lifetime achievement award with the Department of Historic Archaeology and Historic Preservation. So this will be additional letters for that application as well.

So his apple is in there. We're just kind of like acknowledging that. We're saying, hey, this is cool.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

It's not like we're lobbying for it. We're not trying to get it in there. It's already been sent. Marie Glusenkamp-Perez, Her office packaged it up and sent it to D.C. like a week ago. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Pretty amazing the work that they do. Absolutely. I was out there about a year and a half ago at the 9-0 fair, and they have that cool little shop where they're in their demonstration shed. Yeah, it's really neat.

Any questions or questions? support for this proclamation. So when would we do? Right now.

I move to approve a proclamation for the, because the application is due the 15th. So I move to approve a proclamation for Tenino Stone Carver's inclusion in the congressional time capsule and authorized electronic signatures to be utilized authorizing said proclamation.

I'll second that. Discussion on the motion?

I think it's a good idea. Yeah, I don't have any issues with it. Would we also put it on any sort of business agenda, or is this the only time to acknowledge it?

I mean, we have our pre-approved proclamation schedule for our business meeting, so I wasn't trying to slide into that. Okay. But I mean... I don't know, getting Keith up here, he's kind of older and he's retired, and so getting him up here to do it, our song and dance might be a little much, so my intention was to just go meet him in the shed and, you know, get some pictures with the other stone carvers and celebrate it that way.

Okay.

Could, as an idea, when the honor is bestowed upon him, do something in a business being at that time.

If you can let me know, I mean, I would attend if I was available. Okay. And he might like having multiple.

I'm hoping this isn't the last of this conversation. So if he gets that, I can't imagine he doesn't. That lifetime achievement award thing would be cool. If he gets that, I would want to, you know, bring him up here and we could celebrate that because that's a huge honor. Yeah.

Other discussion on that motion? Call for the vote.

Thank you, Commissioner Fournier. This is very exciting. And go, Keith.

Yeah, that's something really cool. OK, call for the vote. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. OK, Commissioner Items. I have two things that I'm just kind of giving, not for decision, but I'll just give you guys a heads up and maybe we can have it up for decision next week. But so you know what I'll be circulating. One is a letter of support for a grant for Thurston Regional Planning Council for rural transit. We've done this before. This is their base funding grant through the Washington State Department of Transportation. They need the letter by August 3rd. and I'll circulate it through the county manager. So just look for that coming your way. And then similarly, a little more complicated, but the natural climate solutions, you guys will remember that in 2020, Three, there was money. Four, and this is money to protect legacy forest, but then it replaces it with other trees so your beneficiaries stay whole. This is our best mechanism for keeping win-win-win for everybody. Beneficiaries stay whole. Trees get protected. We didn't get anything in 2023 and 2024. every year they kind of fight over the language. In 2024, it specifically said Thurston County had to get something, and so that's what the Radagast parcels are being. In 2025, there was more money, but it's not Thurston County specific, but we are allowed and DNR will make the choice, not us, but we are allowed to weigh in. So I have a proposal of two areas that we would, you know, we would maybe weigh in on one is the largest piece left. That's not, you know, if you looked at the map and the other is that piece, uh, the pieces that the bears pieces that are near the McLean trail that you've heard so much from the community about. So those would be, we'd be asking DNR to, to look at Thurston County and potentially, um, look at those two areas for inclusion with this money. We may not get the money. There may be other applicants from other counties. It's not Thurston County's money, but we just want them to know what, and I've gone over maps with the community activists and experts and had a chance to sort of ask a lot of questions and make sure that this made sense, and it did to me. So I'll circulate this through the county manager and maybe we can discuss it next week. And if anyone has questions between now and then, reach out to me.

I have a question. What's the big one called?

The big one they're calling, you know how they have funny names sometimes for the sales? But this one is one I hadn't heard. So we're calling it the Waddle Headwaters. It's at the Waddle Creek Headwaters. And it's 209 acres of state forest board transfer land and then 22 acres of purchase land. The transfer land means... the vast majority, almost 90% of it is county beneficiaries, which is good because then those county beneficiaries, like if they're included in some other program, they may not get their money, right? But in this program, they get the money. So it's our best mechanism for our county beneficiaries to keep them whole.

Okay, awesome.

And then the other one they're calling McLean Creek, but we know those to be Bears Unit 1 and Unit 2.

Okay.

And apparently... What we were told, what I was told is that for some, like there's two units and like one of the bears units is being considered by DNR independently for inclusion in the commissioner's big, big, but for some reason the other one isn't. And so the recommendation is just to let them know that both of those are important to our community. Okay. And just to ask for both, even though one of them may get protection elsewhere anyway. But the main one is this Wallow Creek. So I've got the draft letter and I'll circulate it to the county manager. Awesome. Thank you. Any other commissioner items? Hey, Josh. Hey, Will. Poof. Okay. Thanks, everybody. Welcome back. And we're adjourned.