Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, July 8, 2025
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Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Texarkana, TX
Meeting Date
July 8, 2025

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I want to thank everybody for coming to the uh July the 8th regular plan meeting of the Arkansas Planning and Zoning Commission. Uh we have some agendas on the banister there. If anyone wants to follow along, we'll take each item in turn. Uh first item would be a roll call. Miss Velvet. Anita Picket here. Jason Dri here. Anderson Neil here. Dr. Hickerson here. Chris Owens is not here at the moment. Cory Mobs is not here at the moment. And Chairman Boots Thomas here. So we have a quorum and can conduct business. Uh second item would be the adoption of the summarized minutes of the June 10th meeting. Everybody had an opportunity to look at those. Are there any additions, subtractions, or edits? Anyone? If not, the chair accepts a motion. I move that we accept the minutes as presented. Motion and second. Second. This be a voice vote. All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Same sign. All right. Item number three would be a reszoning request by Jessica and David Leaffords. Am I saying that right? I hope. 16 Shana Lane, Texas, Texas to reszone the property located at 6212 Tennessee Road from R1 Rural Residential to A1 Limited mixed use for the purpose of operating a berry farm. Property is legally described as a plot northwest northeast section 35 township 15 south range 28 west Miller County Arkansas containing 4.423 acres more or less and it is located in Ward 1, Miss Jamie. Okay. Um

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this is the property here. This is Tennessee Road. This is uh North Rondo Road. I think it'll rain everywhere but at my house. A little bit of weather. Um this is the property here. It's a little over 4 acres. Um for reference later on, we did have two complaints filed about the resoning. One of them lives right here and the other one is right over here. It's currently zoned R1 as is everything else around it. There is water out there available. There is no sewer out there. Um I believe Mr. Miss Lefford are here. There were two, like I said, two complaints filed. One of them was in your packet. The other one I left a copy on the desk. It came in after the packets had already gone out. Yes. and they are opposed to a commercial operation uh in a residential area. Thank you. And I believe they are here and the Lefors are here. All right. As long as we have electricity. So, any questions from Miss Jamie from anyone? So, I see that across the road is vacant. Uh, the site is vacant and to the west of the site is also vacant. To the south is vacant and residential and to the east is residential. So we

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have uh residences on both the south and vacant everywhere else. Okay. South southwest corner. Yes. All right. No questions of Miss Jamie. Anyone? All right. Thank you, Miss Jamie. Uh, who's here to speak in favor of this? Are the applicants? You step to the podium and give your name for the record, please. And I'm sure we'll have some questions. We'll let you make a statement. If you would state your name and address, where we reside. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So, Jessica Lefors, 16 Sarah Lane, Tex Arcana, Texas. Okay. And I'm her husband, David Lefor 16 Sarah Lane, Tex Arcana, Texas. Okay. So, we understand you want to run a berry farm there. We're just going to do or we're hoping to just do a pick where they come. Just kind of give us a broad overview of what you intend to do on the property. We're just going to pick a black or plant blackberries and blueberries and just do a kind of a pick where people can come and pick fruit just those few months when they're available in the summer. Just lowkey. Basically, I wanted to plant a bunch of blackberries and blueberries. I don't want to pick them and sell them. So, we're going to let we wanted people to come kind of get them as they wanted them. Okay. So, you're you're going to grow on the property. Are you also going to sell on the property? No. I mean, well, I mean, there might be a fee to come pick the property to come pick the berries, but And what percentage of the property do you intend to uh use as agriculture? Well, you can see on the we're we're building our house on the one side and then we're going to um you can see the kind of tree break in the middle. is going to do blackberries and blueberries on on both different sides. So, you intend to live there also?

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Yes. Yes, sir. All right. Any questions from anyone? This may be more for Jamie, but so the way it's zoned right now, they could live there. They could grow all the berries they wanted. The only need reason it needs to be reszoned is because they want to allow people to come pick for a fee. For a fee. My name is Michael Middleton. I live on Rolling Ridge Drive1 at the address listed under Sarah McBride. Yes. Yes, sir. If I could if I could interrupt you for just a minute, I I'll be more than glad to give you a chance to the podium where you can speak your effort and I'll every everybody gets a vote. everybody gets a gets gets to tell their story. So, just thank thank you for being here. I know you're concerned. All right. Um, so we're discussing the berry farm. If you have any questions of the applicants or at the podium, when do you plan to build your home? When you start what's your timetable for that, do you think? Okay. We're going to move into the um there's a mobile home on the property. We're going to move in in

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January and then we're putting our house up. Okay. For sale in Texas or in Red Lake. And so you begin your from that we'll use to build our house. All right. Well, our our our A1 zone allows for uh agricultural uses also on residential properties in the rural areas. That was the reason that we created that zone. Uh the fact that you're going to live there makes it doable. If you weren't going to live there, then there may it may be problematic. Uh if you're just going to use it as a straight commercial farming operation, well, that's a different animal. But if you're going to live there and also do a little agriculture, well, that's permissible. So, as a land use. So, that's what we're talking about. So, your your your home relative to Tennessee Road will be toward the toward the front of the property. We're planning on building There's the mobile home. Okay. Equip. All right. So your your planning will be on the the west side and your home will be on the east side. Yeah. Most of our living will be on this side. Okay.

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Are there going to be specific hours that people can come and pick berries and how is that going to be? Are you going to be there to Yeah, I plan on being there. This is kind of my thing because I work at the research center. I did a lot of trials for my late We're not trying to cause a problem. So it'll be all day part of the day or in the morning. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And also we wanted to have the stuff going on. acres. Okay. Well, there's some the A1 zone, Miss Jamie, has some limiting factors on uh retail kind of stuff, commercial, if I remember. I don't remember the details. Is that correct? Am I correct on that? Is agriculture is allowed? Yes. They allow things like berry sales and jelly and farmers market kind of Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. Any other questions? Anyone? Thank you both very much.

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All right. So, if there's anyone here other uh to speak in favor, step to the podium. If not, if there anyone here to speak uh in opposition, please come forward. You guys choose who's first. Thank you. I appreciate very much Brown. I live at 6110 Tennessee Road. Okay. As you can see, our property completely around one portion of that. Yeah. Which is basically sitting directly on top. Now, I have no problem with someone growing a farm. We have concerns with random strangers coming in at any time and picking and coming through seven days privacy. We vote for for the depo. We vote for very longest hours. Yeah. Strangers coming and going and Tennessee road and roller ridge is very very busy roads. It's hard to keep up the road maintenance out there anyway and the high traffic. We've been out there since 1995. My son and daughter-in-law live on the opposite on Rolling on Roland Ridge. They're the opposite that are expecting their child this next year. Well, I have concerns. We have a well on our property. Um the drain off where they're stating that they're going to put the planning. I'm concerned with we watch the nature. We watch the deer and the birds. Well, I've some research and it says berry berry trees or whatever need to plant two two and a half feet apart. That's a 4 acre track. Well, then you have to start netting and spraying for bugs and so forth. So, you have a profit with berries or any kind of produce

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um that chemicals and stuff, you know, where is that going in the soil, in the water, I mean, in the air, you know, how is that going to be maintained for our area? Mhm. You know, we wanted to be rural residential. That's why we chose to live out there. Another concern that I do have is is it going to change our tax rate? If it goes from R1 to A1 limited mix, do we face it or can they guarantee that we're not going to be charged any kind of corporate rate with them running an operation? That is a concern from us. Sure. Yes, sir. Understand that. So far as I know, uh just just the alteration in in the zoning would not affect your property at all, but I I I may be speaking out of turn for the tax assessors at Miller County, but I was on the board of equalization for three years and and nothing like that ever came up. So we we didn't see it as a a a tax danger to surrounding properties. The way the properties are valued is by the uh the net cost or the overall cost of the property in a surrounding area. If you have a home that's worth a h 100red,000 and you're suddenly surrounded by homes that are worth a million, your chances of your taxes going up, you know, but otherwise, no. Uh, everybody that's around you and all the homes out there are all kind of homogeneous. So, I wouldn't for me personally, I wouldn't I wouldn't think that would be an issue. But I did do some research and it does does not say IRS has a cap on that. Yeah, I did look into it and it did say to check with your local authorities

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regarding any tax rate change. That's that's correct. That would be Miller County. Yes, sir. All right. Any other questions for Miss Kathleen? Anyone? Very good. Thank you, ma'am. Do you have any questions of us? Not at this time. Okay. I'm more over it for a moment and see what I can I mean we welcome all of our neighbors standing in the community. And we love all our neighbors like it should be. But I do have concerns with strangers pulling up right there next to my yard and random times and not knowing who they are. You know, our property lines run through and I expect my grandchild to run through that wood line to my son's house. I mean, I don't want have to constantly be on top of him to say him or her expecting. So yeah. Yeah. Um I'm concerned with that strangers being in our surroundings. Right. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you for your comments. Appreciate it. Anyone else? 912. So we too we live house. We like to kill Michael. Our house is like right here.

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We have this property here that a lot of this property right acre fishing pond. My concern is is that as the chemicals are needed to produce good fruit, wood would be drained off from fertilizer and pesticides and such as that that will go directly to our pond. We had pond built two years ago. Uh it wasn't cheap. It was like $20,000 build. And then the house is supposed to go right there. So, this this map doesn't actually show the pond, but that's our property there. This is and you know, I can appreciate them building a new home. I mean, kudos to them. That's what we would like to do, too. And then, I mean, Kathy's got a good point. I agree with Kathy on the, you know, unknown people coming in from the surrounding area to come buy produce and and and it's a great idea. I mean, sell your produce, but to have somebody come in and pick and I mean, if if your family and friends coming in picking, that's different. But the advertising our property, you know, come out here on our property, you're advertising on Facebook, whatever. There's going to be some people who want to come buy fresh produce. I mean, you can't blame them. But my question is like will it be bringing in soil amendment? You know, they're going to bring in 20 truckloads

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of from South say line to compost to I mean I've grown I've lived out there for 30 years. The soil out here don't grow very well. It's iron ore. Now I haven't tried to grow anything on their property. It doesn't mean that it won't grow. I know that way out this way there was years ago a blueberry farm out there. So maybe blueberries will do do good. I don't know. But the traffic chemicals that come in for pesticides, that's those are my my biggest deal. Building a new house, I mean that's great. That would increase the land property values around That's good. Welcome to the neighborhood for that. But I'd be opposed for a commercial type farm, right? Business. I can't remember what it was. Oh, well, it's kind of huge. But I was just wondering, do they have have you previously grown blueberries and you know like have you done any soil testing is it do you think it's going to be feasible for to actually grow there without having to do a lot of amendments to the answer all right well I'll give you a chance to uh answer his questions but the question is have you done this before and have you looked into this and do you think it's feasible? So, we'll we'll get you an opportunity to answer that in a moment. All right. Any other anything else?

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Any questions of us? Very good. Thank you so much. All right. Anyone else? [Music] My name is Michael Middleton. I live at 801 Rolling Ridge. Uh thank y'all for uh opening your meeting for us to make comments on this. Uh I I share the concerns of my neighbors about uh you know unknown people going through the neighborhood having opportunities to look and see what kind of items they might or might not want to come back and walk off with at another time. My wife and I both work pretty much all day. Uh my other I share the concerns of uh the additional traffic uh down that road particularly uh rolling ridge that's a cut through for the Genanoa area. Mhm. Uh and uh the the city or county does not their current maintenance on Tennessee road the road is in pretty bad shape. Uh they are doing patchwork here and there, but uh when has it never been? Well, I mean, I've lived there 10 years. I've seen it much worse. Uh and and I do appreciate the new road on Rolling Ridge. Uh it's wonderful, but uh uh I I do have some additional concerns related to the zoning. Okay. uh reszoning this area while they this couple wants to do a berry farm. If it was reszoned, there are various other businesses that could go into that same property without any additional reasoning,

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uh bait shop, uh I I can't remember all the others, but there was quite a few other uh selling plant products. Basically, like they said earlier, a farmers market. It wouldn't be uh by city ordinance restricted to just a berry farm. They could do whatever was within the description of that zoning. Uh so my concern is, you know, what other oh uh bees and beekeeping uh is another business that could go there or it could be done at the in conjunction with the berry farm. Uh cuz I mean I I've lived there 10 years and like Melvin says, it's not very good uh crop growing there without bringing in additional uh supplements. Uh but anyway, I would like to uh just speak against the motion and I appreciate your time and u very good. You have any questions for us? Uh, no sir. Just to confirm that what I said was if they reszoned it there would they could do whatever was within the allowance of that zoning designation. Yep. Okay. I do have one more question. Yes. Yes. I think to change zoning they have to do site plans and surveys and stuff. Is that part of the application package? Does that come later? What what we do here on the planning and zoning is land use considerations. Okay? And we make recommendations to the board of directors and the board of directors has the final say. So if we vote yay or nay either way the board of directors also always has the final say. Okay. So that permits and all that would have to be done. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else?

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Very good. All right. Questions or comments from anyone? Oh, yes. Please come come back and we'll uh address your questions. Okay. So to the question of have you done this before and uh do you know what your requirements would be? Yes. So I have my integrated management. Okay. Yes. Very good. And the soil is acidic, which is why All right. The soil type out there, does that concern you? What's your plans there? One side, the other side is a little in the sandy lom side. Yes. Also on the other side, but I haven't. Do you plan on fencing your property? Yes. Anything that would have said the name we would like to address. I mean chemical is a lot of people are very chemicals. All right. So So it's not your plan to use chemicals. Well, it's my plan to use mostly organic. Yes. Yes. Okay. science. I'm thinking in in the in your case uh

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what is it? Miller County Extension Office or they they're not a regulatory. They're more of an assistance or a helper. But you would you would you wouldn't be would you be under help me out here because I'm not fluent in that. Would you be under any sort of uh county or state regulation concerning your operation? Like that would kind of oversee what we were using. Mhm. Not in Arkansas that I know of. Yeah. I didn't think so either. Okay. Very good. I guess I mean for us we my wife asked the question to Right. Yes. Yes. So that's why we did it. We're not trying to be [Music] right chemicals. My wife has a master control. We don't put anything. So, I don't think that's going to be an issue. We're going to grow the berries anyway whether we sell them or not. So it's not going to change. There's no regulations on even if we were using pesticides which were not. Yeah. Anyway, I understand. Yes. Yes. I don't think that's really kind of a point,

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right? The stranger is understandable. this side of the property over here mostly on this side would be over here not over here and so and this whole side is all fixed so this is the backyards of all the people that live on so we we can't see them anyway they can't see us it's all grown and there's fencing there so it's not really an eyesore And anybody that comes in here, I mean, they're not going to be climbing the fence back. Yeah. We're not really trying to make a big berries that we do. We're either going to give them away or we may sell them for sir. It's not like it's not going to be, you know, I'm an orthodist. I make prosthetic for a living. I don't need farm, you very far to survive. You know what I'm saying? Right. So, it's just something fun we want to do and we don't want upset people. We just we're going to be moving in the neighborhood. We want to get along with the neighbor. We just thought it be fun to have a great Very good. Any questions from anyone? Thank you so much. Okay. Please. I'm sorry, I can't say that. I don't have my flag. No, no, you're fine. You're fine. We along this line, we have elderly neighbors. Okay. That um they do not get out. Um we have one neighbor that just passed. He's a prominent member of the community, Mr. Reed. Um and his son's carries on that

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property. This property right here where they're wanting to build is my son and daughter-in-law that are expecting a child. on this side and then we're on this side. So we border all there and then Robin's property there and then on this other side is Michael here. So we are completely around on that on Rolling Ridge Drive. We have a lot of elderly people that we have to watch getting into the fields that we have caught hiding out either they're on drugs or something that comes off that main road and we have caught them and to call the police because they get in wrong areas and flashlights and things they broke in um his mother-in-law storage buildings out there sto stuff. We don't want the added traffic and stuff of individuals trying to come out there and go around there and it does concern me. Yes, it concerns our privacy. And as you can see the way our properties line up, we're completely on like a around And then we have our elderly people. We watch out for our elderly neighbors. Yes. I mean, when I was pregnant with my son, which is going to be 28, they fed me plums. You know, I have no problem with the growing berries. I do have a problem with chemical use that could affect the land, the water, or the people coming in there that we have no idea who they are. I mean, we remain rural out there in a small We have a really good watch team and we watch all of our neighbors. We have Utah Bardell that live down the street. We know all of our neighbors and we welcome them into the neighborhood. But I I do have those concerns. So I just want to sure bring that up. And there is a berry farm in the 9,000 block of um a blueberry

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farm. That's 9,000 block. We're 6110. It's right past the boy scout camp. Yep. and they're commercial outside the city limits. Back in 97 to where were city limits and then now they're want to resone from R1 to A1 limited. This concerns me. So thank you for your time. Thank you. Appreciate that. Very good. So I guess people. So she lives there. Yeah. Right. That's that's she's got sister-in-law. I just want to reiterate question. Yes. Reiterate our pond is not a fish pond. I stocked it twice with crappie and not bass crappie and blue. So that's expensive. Now hopefully the runoff and stuff natural runoff and stuff probably not cause damage to fish, but it could. I mean it sounds like they're not want did y'all receive federal grants funds from state or federal level for bushes

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Y'all don't have to answer that. Okay. Sorry, but my thinking of it is something is good idea except for the fact that it brings us in retail and I think if you had hours posted, you know, we're only operating 8 a.m. to 12, whatever. That would be something, right? This opens up the gateway that you know, you have bait shop there later, you know, once this gets approved. If it gets approved, We didn't we didn't follow the rules. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. All right. Any comments, questions, discussions from anyone? Sounds like they've got a uh crime problem as it is without berry farms there. So I don't know that the the folks coming to pick berries are going to increase that issue. Right. Criminals are going to be criminals. I don't think the opuspice of coming to pick berries to scout neighboring properties is I I just don't

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see that as a concern. Also, you have to me you have people who know what they're doing and it's just not amateurs coming in planting berries who don't know what they're doing. I applaud that you do have a degree and um you know what you're doing. So that that means a lot. And for those that are concerned about pesticides or chemicals, the Arkansas State Plant Board is the agency that uh has jurisdiction for that. So if you have any concerns about something like that, just contact them. Of course, the Cooperative Extension Service would also be could give you some uh information on that also. So, but sounds like she knows what she's doing and uh I don't think that will be an issue. So, a little history on our A1 zone. Uh we enacted that uh what two years ago, Miss Jamie, I think thereabouts. Oh, no. It's been I've been back in planning two years, so it's been probably three years. Three years ago. Yeah. We recognized that when the city annexed all of that property uh from the current in 2000, we went way out in the rural areas out 82 in Tennessee Road. That's probably uh that round of annexation was when you guys were all taken into the city. Uh those are large lot rural areas. Most of those people still believe themselves Miller County residents and not Texas, Arkansas residents. Uh they've been there forever and ever. So uh the city extended its services and

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police protection, fire and out that way and uh took in some property. So it left some uses that were large lots. Uh there were people that had uh cattle, horses, uh a little limited agriculture and and there was no provision for them if they wanted to build structures on their property uh to to benefit with that. So we had some in our rural residential or in our residential zones, you had to build a primary house before you could build a barn, for instance. So uh and the agricultural uses were not allowed in the residential uses. So we had to address that issue because it was uh a lot of that stuff was grandfathered in and it was what was actually going on on the property. So without the proper regulation or the proper uh zoning designations, it was a non-conforming use and uh limited the owners uh rights to what they could do with their property, which was never an intended thing. So, we added the A1 mixeduse zone for the intended purpose of allowing uh large lot residential uh rural areas to be able to utilize their property for limited agricultural use if they chose to. Uh people have horses and a few people still raise cattle and then there's some limited rowcrop agriculture, some little truck farm things and some other stuff that was taking place. But we found the largest amount of it was cattle and horses. So in order to make that uh completely

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legal and allow them to function on that lot and to do the things that needed to be done is why we did the thing. Now we never intended for the A1 zone to become uh high value agriculture. We never intended for it to be rowcrop. In fact I think rowcrops are not allowed in in uh uh the traditional sense. We intended it to be residential limited agricultural use and we've made a provision in there so that if you were doing that like if you had a pea patch then you could sell your peas if you wanted to or in this case a berry farm or orchard if you wanted to pecans or or uh sell your cattle that kind of thing. So it was it was intended to be compatible with the other residential uses that were in that area but to also allow mixed or limited agricultural use. So the purpose of our committee here we're we're not the as I mentioned earlier we're not the final word. The board of directors is the final word. Uh if we rule against this, you can appeal to the board of directors. If we rule for this, you can still also appeal to the board of directors because they have to they have to make the final designation in the reszoning. So, uh, our purpose on this board is to assess the land use, the location, and to determine if that land use is appropriate to that location, if it's the highest and best use of the property for the benefit of the of the citizens

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of Texican, Arkansas, and the city. So, that that's our purpose. Just accept that as a general uh explanation. and hope that answers some of your questions. So, uh that's that's what we do. All right. Having said that, if there are no other comments from anyone, no other questions from anyone, then the chair will accept a motion. I move that we grant the refunding. All right, we have a motion to approve. We need a second. Would you call the role, please? Anita Picket. Yes. Jason Dupri, yes. Anderson Neil, yes. Dr. Hickerson, yes. Chris Owens, yes. And uh, Chairman Thomas, yes. All right. So, the motion passes from us. It'll go forward to the board of directors. When, Miss Jamie? First Monday in August. First Monday in August. So, anyone being interested in this issue and wants to continue the debate, uh please I encourage you to go to the board of directors meetings and and uh state your uh approvals or or disapprovals as you did here tonight. We thank you very much for your candid comments and uh let the board of directors make their final judgment. Thank you. All right. Item four. Um, item four is the issue or the truck stop or I have had no luck getting a phone number for anyone at

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the corporation that owns Flying J. Anything about the zoning. All right. Agent telling them that we are recommending that we reszone it if this ordinance passes. Okay. Yeah, I read your letter. I've made all the changes to the ordinance that we have asked. Y'all want to vote on that tonight? Have you heard back from them as yet? [Music] Uh if we don't reszone them, if we don't resone them and then they decide they want to expand, then they could be res. All right. We're just trying to get ahead of that, but if we can't get in touch with them. Yeah. Well, our purpose for reszoning them is to make them a uh so that they would not be a non-conforming use and uh we certainly don't want to impact them. I I don't I can't see that they would object, but however, uh my suggestion, and I'll defer to the rest of you guys, would be to uh let's wait and see what we hear back from them, okay? And then we can move forward with that. There may be adjustments or modifications they might request to our ordinance. if you uh they may want to see a copy of the ordinance. Actually, I will try cuz uh right now they're the they're the number one thing. They're the big the big elephant in the room and uh we want to get this right the first time. Okay.

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I would I would say any is there any agreement to that? I agree. All right. So, you've you've completed your draft of the uh of the ordinance. Yes. Did I not include that? It was not. We couldn't vote on something we can't see. All right. So, we can take that up next month then. Let's put that on the agenda one way or the other next month and we'll see what we have going forward with that. All right. That should do that. The next item on the agenda would be election of a chairman and vice chairman. Booth is not eligible for chairman. This was this is the end of my second year of this. Is not that correct? Yeah, but you can only hold an office one year and you have to sit out. Too powerful. H you get too powerful. Too too powerful. Okay. Okay. The chair accepts nomination for the U chairmanship. Anyone someone can know? How about Jason? Yeah, that's usually how it I've done it before, but I miss so much with work travel right now that I I may make half meetings. Well, that's okay if we have a chair. Yeah. Come on, help me out here. I'm trying to think Anderson. He can be another great chairman. He could. He and I been swapping this job back and forth, hadn't we? Yeah.

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H I don't have a problem. I think she would make a great chairman. Not really ready. No, ma'am. No. Come on. Nominate Anderson. All right, we're going to do that. All right, we have a nomination for Mr. Anderson Neil as chairman. Uh, and a second. Need a nomination for a vice chair. How about you? Can he be vice? He can be vice, but he may not want to. I'll be vice chair one more time. I after after my term expires in 26, I'm going to resign anyway. So, that'd be good. Okay. All right. So, we have a nomination for chairman, Mr. Anderson Neil, and a nomination for vice chair, Mr. Boots Thomas. So, uh, all in favor of Mr. Anderson Neil as chairman, let it be known by I saying I. I. Any oppose? Same sign. All right. Vice chair would be me. Uh, let it be known by saying I. I. Any opposed? Same sign. Very good. So, Mr. Neil, congratulations, sir. All right. Uh, staff comments. Um, I wanted to tell y'all about that the historic district commission well that's not true the historic district commission is not sponsoring it there is a group of private citizens who are working very diligently to save the or school first public school in Texas where Scott and we've got the grant to do oral histories so any of you that know anyone may at the or school or may have gone to is there at one time or have any or school if they can get a Velvet.

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Very good. That's a worthy cause. I remember that school. Miss Velvet and I were talking about that. I remember that school from the 50s when I was a kid. So, yeah. Well, it's it's it's going to be a major undertaking. Well, it's a it's a historic thing. I mean, it's a genuine artifact that uh and to still have it for it still be there is amazing. All right, next meeting August the 12th. Uh there's no other business. The chair accepts a motion for adjournment. So move. All in favor say I. I. Here we go. Thank you so much everyone for attending.

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