City Council - Regular Meeting

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Good evening, everyone. Welcome to this regular meeting of the Terote City Council. It's a little after 6:00 p.m. on Thursday, October 9th, 2025. We have a handful of traditions here, and one of them is that we begin each of our meetings with a moment of silence and the pledge of allegiance to the flag. Tonight's pledge will be led by Councilman Anthony Dinkl. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. Michelle, please call the role. Council person Azar, present. Council person Bolan, council person Chaos, present. Council person um Debon here. Council person Dingle present. Council person Hinton present. Council person Loudermilk. Council person Nation here. Council person Thompson here. Seven are present. Two are absent.

Uh we heard from both council persons Boland and Louderdermilk. um they both have previous engagements, previously scheduled engagements and are available tonight. Another one of our of our traditions is to reserve up to 30 minutes of time for public comments on non-aggenda items. If you want to talk to the council about something that's not on tonight's agenda, you're invited to uh come up to the I'm sorry, the speakers just came on. I'm hearing myself uh over the PA for the first time this evening. Uh please approach the podium and uh share your name with us and let us know what's on your mind.

Hearing none corrections to the journal. There are none. Communications from the mayor.

Welcome Mayor Sackman. Hey, good evening, Council President Nation and members of the Terote City Council. Uh, just quick reminder, October 25th is a citywide cleanup. So, you'll have three total locations. Woodro, Wilson, um, City Hall, and then the Terote Street Department. So, we we put out a little advertisement today asking folks to enter in off Deming Street. Uh, Wilson and City Hall are just dumpsters. The street department's where you'll have, I think, brush chipping, electronics, recycling, and then we'll take up to four tires. do want to thank VO County Solid Waste Management for their assistance in that. That's how we're able to do some of the the extra stuff. Uh obviously a big weekend coming up with Indiana State Homecoming in downtown Terode. I do want to give you guys a heads up because I'm sure you're you're going to get a call. There is a lot of construction on the sidewalks in downtown. There's a huge uh fiber project. So because of that, they go back and fix the rideway at the end of their contract. So, there are several portions of the sidewalk where there's a little bit of gravel or a little bit of construction material. So, if someone approaches you and says, "Hey, why is it like this?" It's because we are in the middle of a project in the rideway with the utility. The utility being fiber optics. So, just wanted to give you guys all that heads up. Uh Saturday, the parade is at 9:00 a.m. in downtown Teroot and the Sycamores play, I believe, at 1:00 p.m. on Saturday. So, going to be a good weekend. we will have some additional uh police officers throughout the area especially with downtown. So we're looking forward to it and we're prepared here. Uh the last big thing is we've been tracking uh inkeeper tax and also uh total amount of individuals who are visiting Terode Indiana. We've had a ton of success with cross country and with sports this fall. One thing that we are also doing now is looking at how many people come in for covered bridge. uh and it does look like we continue to see a big uh big rush for that. So overall from a tourism standpoint, we're very impressed with what the numbers are uh for this

calendar year and we look forward to pushing that in 2026. I'll stand by for any questions, but if not, I know we've got a packed agenda. Thank you, mayor. Uh well, real quick, Councilman Nation, Councilman Azar, any specials at the Saratoga this Saturday? Everything's special. Okay, good. 50% off for me then. Thank you. reports from city officials. Michelle, welcome Matri.

Good evening, council. I'm Matri Desai, city planner with the engineering department. First, I want to extend my appreciation to everyone who stopped by at the open house and shared their feedback. Thank you. Um, I'm excited to present the Safe Street terraot safety action plan. Is your TV's on? Um, this initiative is made possible through the US Department of Transportation Safe Streets and Roads for All SS4A grant program. The city of Teroot received $200,000 in federal funding to develop this plan. To carry out this important work, the city issued the request of proposal and selected L. Müller Group as a consultant team to develop the safety action plan. We officially kick off the project in December 2024. Data collection and the first public survey took place in early 2025. followed by the traffic and crash data analysis and the development of key recommendation which were completed by the July 2025. Now the draft plan is ready for the public to review provide a final round of feedback before we move forward uh to the final adoption. The draft plan is also available under engineering department under planning section. Feel free to email me or Marcus for any questions, any concern. Um we have a deadline of October 24th. Uh um so please at least go to the website, review the plan and see what we have done. The goal of this plan is is straightforward uh but very important to improve the roadway safety for everyone who uses our streets. Not just the

drivers but also pedestrian, bicyclist and transit riders. This plan takes a datadriven and community- based approach to help us move forward to the future with the zero serious injuries or fatalities on terote roadways. The SS4A program supports the local government like ours um in creating and implementing comprehensive safety plans that align with the principles of vision zero uh which is a commitment to ensuring that no loss of life on our street is acceptable. So what is that? Uh while no crashes are desirable, but the vision zero commitment prioritize the crashes that result in death and serious injuries since no one should experience either when using our transportation system. People make mistakes um and that can led to the crashes. But the transportation system can be designed and operated to accommodate those human mistakes and injury tolerances and avoid death or at least any type of serious injury. As a part of this planning process, um we formed a project steering committee to help guide the effort from start to finish. I want to sincerely thank you all the members for their time, insight and dedication. Jeremy Ver from MO, Jesse Tohul from board of public works, Marcus Mau from engineering department, at Ryan ADA coordinator and human relation commission, Debbie Hensley, transit department, Nicholas Arnold, fire and EMS, Jeremy Sparks, Ted LMK, Teroot Police Department, Clayton Kryson, Viggo County School Corporation and Mayor's Office. this their collaboration and local

expertise have been essential to ensure this plan reflects the needs and the realities of our community. And now I would like to turn it over to Peter Williams from Lach Miller Group. Peter is a transportation planner and he will walk us through the safety analysis, public engagement findings, strategy development and the project selections include in this draft plan. The intention of this plan is to um go uh after the implementation dollars and uh after we are done with the the planning uh plan we have the project priority list and we'll go after the implementation dollar and this year is the last round uh to apply for that federal dollars. Peter,

thank you.

Thank you Matri. Uh my name is Peter Williams. I'm a consultant with Loch Mueller Group. I've worked with Maitri Marcus and the steering committee from the beginning of this uh project to kind of help put everything together. I'm going to talk about some of the more technical requirements from the SS4A program that are included in our plan. The first of which is uh the safety analysis, the data analysis portion. So, we looked at uh crash records for a uh 7-year period to determine where those crashes are occurring, identifying patterns based on uh different severity types, contributing factors. We also developed what's called a high injury network where we're able to identify the streets and roads that experience the highest number of fatal and serious injury crashes. We use that as both a visualization tool and as a way to help us prioritize potential safety improvements. Uh this is an example of the high injury network here in Teroot. Uh it excludes um Interstate uh 70. So we're just looking at non-instate roads. Another part of the safety analysis is the risk assessment. Somewhat different from the high injury network. It looks at actual uh roadway characteristics and those characteristics that can uh create conditions that um can lead to more fatal and serious injury crashes and we call those high-risk roadway features. So the next requirement of the SS4A federal program is that we engage uh both with the public and stakeholders and that we incorporate the input that we receive into the plan. And so what

you see here is the results of a prior online survey that we uh put out earlier in the spring. And within that survey, we were able to determine what the public views as their highest priorities. We also uh we also utilized an online mapping exercise which allowed the public to put points down on a map, tell us what they're experiencing there. And then other folks were allowed to come and view that information, give a thumbs up if they also agreed. This input was valuable uh was invaluable to uh not only our analysis but the uh recommendations that followed. In addition to uh broad public engagement, we also engaged directly with uh particular uh stakeholder groups that had more of a vested interest in roadway safety. Uh we created four groups of which we had small uh focus group interviews dedicated uh to uh roadway safety concerns. And then our last round of engagement is happening uh happened this evening right before uh this city council meeting where we had an open house and invited the public in to take a look at our draft plan. Uh, another requirement of the plan is that we review and assess uh, all the different policies and processes that lead to uh, potential roadway uh, safety improvements. We developed five different areas of emphasis and those are accessibility, complete streets, database decisionm, traffic calming and public education and we'll come back to this here in a minute. The next requirement is that we take all of that data analysis, take all of that

public and stakeholder input and develop a comprehensive set of strategies that uh strategies and projects, excuse me. We do that by creating three different uh buckets of projects. Targeted locations, systemic improvements across the network as well as policy improvements. And we'll briefly speak about each of these. Uh so this here talks about our specific locations. We saw on the map earlier the high injury network where most of our high injury crashes are occurring. We take those locations and we run them through a prioritization process that you see here in the graphic. The result of that prioritization process are these top 20 uh projects within the city uh that can be uh that are prioritized for not only safety improvements but um other goals that the city may have. And so as we move ahead to potential funding or potential capital improvements, these would be the locations um that are prioritized the highest. Uh I mentioned also systemic interse uh systemic improvements across the network. So we identified three different areas of focus uh related to systemic improvements. uh improvements at intersections, improvements to help uh improve bicycle and pedestrian safety, and then improvements to reduce vehicle speeds and calm traffic. And then the emphasis areas related to our policy and process assessment turned into uh nine specific policy or process recommendations. And that includes a complete street policy, revised city code standards, a corridor access management policy, uh transit stop design standards, safe routes to school

programming, school zone safety, uh standards, uh safety performance review, uh I mentioned traffic calming before, as well as education and messaging. As part of the SS4A program, it's required that um recipients and uh developers of safety action plans also embed accountability and transparency into the process. Thus, we've uh created certain goals for measuring progress um over the next 5 years. And then as Maitri mentioned uh once this plan is uh fully complete and approved by council it will allow Teroot to be uh eligible for future SS4A implementation funding when that cycle comes around presumably next spring. In addition to the core elements of the safety action plan we we uh created additional elements. One of which is an online crash dashboard that is live now on the Terraote data hub website. This website you can view all the crashes that were analyzed within the plan and use it to view patterns and uh trends um that we also observed. We also have a safety toolkit which provides a menu of evidence-based safety countermeasures that uh the city or the public can view that describes different countermeasures, their applicability on certain locations and their effectiveness. And then as a visualization tool, we've developed different concepts as well to help illustrate what certain safety improvements may ultimately look like once they're developed. These are some images of the draft plan which is uh on the website now for the public review until October 24th. That's all I have. I'm happy to answer

any questions that you may have. Thanks for having us. Thank you uh both. Anybody have any questions? Marcus, would you like to add anything? I don't have any questions. I will add this is been a great study. We appreciate all those that helped and it is important to us to have the safe the streets safe. Um and moving forward this study is going to hopefully, you know, open up some more funding opportunities. We can't afford to fix all of those problems at once, but hopefully there's, you know, open some avenues. I was actually standing up to give a next report from a public official, but uh Oh, all right. Thank you. But if if there's no questions, I I can move on. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.

Um good evening. The mayor mentioned at the last meeting that we did have the long-term control plan approved, which is really exciting news for us um and for the city. I just wanted to give a quick update on that. I don't have a whole lot to share because I think I'm losing my voice, so I apologize, but we've been working towards this plan for for some time now. Um our original plan that we were on was a 20-year plan. It was approved in 2011, and at the time the cost was estimated to be about $125 million. Um, as we kept going, we ran into some delays and cost increases. Um, and when the lift station uh issue happened, we had to shut that project down. We started to look and see, you know, maybe it's time to to look at reviewing this plan and seeing what the alternatives were. So, through that process, we ran through um five different main alternatives with I don't know how many different sub alternatives. We probably looked at nearly 20 different alternatives for cost savings and effectiveness. Um, and we did settle on a project that uh we would continue to to vet. And you know, we looked at cost as well. You know, one thing to note that the new plan we looked at was about $290 million. And that sounds like a lot compared to the 125, but a lot of time has passed and a lot of things that happened. Um, we did rerun the existing plan through cost estimates at the time. and knowing the $290 million estimate, we stopped at about $320 million um because we figured there's no reason to continue looking at this. Um we found a cheaper alternative. So, as we went, we worked through the the the process with IDM and we're able to keep uh the same level of control. We didn't have to go all the way back to the beginning. The level of control that we're looking at is seven overflows a year in the typical year. Um it's hard to explain, but it's apparently been determined that our typical year is 1977.

Um so we've been looking at this um you know on those rainfalls, the rainfall from that year, looking at those storms to determine what happened. Um I'm not sure how we got there, but um just a little bit of context. So the other thing that we were struggling with is we had this 20-year plan with with the cso plan. um it was very limiting to what we could do to maintain our own infrastructure or build new infrastructure. Almost all of our resources were going towards completing this goal. Since that first plan was developed in 2011, the EPA started allowing a different type of plan called integrated planning. So we were pursuing that route. We pursued the integrated planning which would allow us to bring the costs that we need to do to maintain usage and improvements in our community um and also bring that into the calculations to the costs of of the new plan. Using that, we were able to to build a case to get a 25-y year long-term control plan and and that did get approved officially. So, we have 25 years from September to to meet this goal. Um, and we don't have to prioritize just one thing anymore. We we have the ability to to look into the future and and we've built a 25-year plan of projects for the long-term control plan and projects for storm and sanitary sewers in Teraho. So, um we're really excited to be able to look towards building for the future and maintaining what we have in addition to this. Um, the other reason that's that's really important is the costs of the long-term control plan and the times are generally controlled by what the EPA determines you can spend. Um, and that happens to be about 2% of our median household income. So, if we were doing this project without the integrated planning, that's

how much we would spend on the long-term control plan, and that would control our timeline. um any projects that we needed to do for maintenance or improvements above and beyond that would would be an additional burden. Using this integrated planning allows all of that work to be done within within that threshold. So I feel like we've accomplished a huge goal. Significant differences from the previous plan if you were familiar with it is that is is mostly within the parallel interceptor. So, we have a uh we call it the main interceptor. Um it's a sewer that runs along wall the W bash river. Prior to 1962, all of our sewers just flowed directly into the Wbash River. Um in 1962, they constructed the interceptor to pick those off. Some of those sewers are 8 to 10 feet in diameter almost, and they all flow into a pipe that is 66 in at its biggest. Um which leads to these CSOs. So, we're going to be constructing a new parallel interceptor. The original plan from 2011 was a 12oot diameter pipe to use inline storage. Um, a lot of new technologies come along the way and we're looking to use some localized storage and get that down to a 78 inch pipe that can be uh tunnneled into the ground. So, that and that's that's really one of the big differences for the cost decrease. Um, the other big change is we would be leaving the Walnut Street outfall open. Uh the previous plan did close that and that was one of the drivers behind the big pipe. We still will limit even though it's open, it still will be limited in its overflows. Um with a storage facility there and uh it will get a floatables control to eliminate any those seven times a year when it does discharge um on the average year it would have controls to eliminate any floating debris from the the combined system. I think that's really about the main changes. I tried to hit the the high

points. Happy to answer any questions or if anybody wants to carry the intriguing discussion of sewers further. I'd be happy to. I I'm just really really excited to have this approved uh for the city. I think this is a big win for everyone. Thank you, Marcus. I know that this has been a long-term project. It's something that we've all been working on uh or you have been working on it. I've been involved in a peripheral way for gez over a decade now. Um it looks like the mayor would like to add something or would you like to?

Yes. Thank you council president nation. I just kind of want to summarize. We just had two pretty lengthy presentations but I'm going to really simplify it because as much as I love our engineers and planners to some of our viewers who might not be up to date on the terms it can be a little bit different. So the first one safe streets for all. We received the planning grant. We now take that plan, implement some of the easy fixes, uh, paint, crosswalk, um, pedestrian crossing, little things like that. The larger projects, we have about two more years left of federal funding tied to the safe streets for all grant program that was passed in 2021, implemented in 2022 by the bipartisan infrastructure grant. A lot of that bill has been frozen or cancelled under the current administration. This program has not. Um so we are going to follow that and get ready to apply for construction because this program thankfully knock on wood as of today is still well technically not as today because there's a federal government shutdown. But when it turns back on this program is technically still funded. The second, the long-term control plan. Uh what it the iterative planning really allows us to do, look at our sewage problems, problems related to storm water and infrastructure and build out a plan over the next two decades instead of six years to fix and fund it. Under the previous plan, that that shot clock was winding down. We had passed it, you know, 15-ish years ago and had not gotten moving on a lot. So this allows us to really stretch out the actions of said plan which impacts the people of Teroot substantially because it allows us to really take a rate increase and spread it over time because if you default essentially in a plan like this, if you aren't upgrading to federal standards, they step in, take your

wastewater treatment plan, and they mandate a massive increase to pay for said fixes at once or in a shorter amount of time. So, I want to commend the the Terode engineering department just for them being able to kind of allow us to punt and get a a longer time to come up to these solutions and piece meal this together. It will help save the the terote folks a lot more compared to the previous plan we were under that which would have given us six years to get all that work done. So, that's the simplified version of the the two plans that we had just discussed. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. Does anybody on the council have questions for Marcus about any of this? Thanks again, Marcus.

Reports from the Board of Public Works and Safety, there are none. Reports from standing committees, there are none. Reports from non-standing committees, there are none. Items previously tabled, there are none. Tax abatements for confirmation, there are none. Items on second reading. Special Ordinance 22 2025, excuse me, the 2026 salary ordinance for MBH Street Department. We have a petitioner here for this one. Yep. Sorry, I had the wrong paper.

That's all right. Good evening, council president, members of the terote city council. Before you today, you have special ordinance 222025. It is labeled uh MVH, motor vehicle highway uh department. That is your street department. So, the salary ordinance in front of you reflects a 6% raise. And while no contract has been signed uh with that union, uh what we do want to do is still bring you this tonight to pass it because we still have 2 months in uh 2025 to be able to get that contract through. So if we don't bring this to you, uh we are contractually obligated to keep this year's pay uh for the life of that contract. So, we wanted to give this to you to set that ceiling uh and and still give those guys the opportunity over the next two months to continue to work uh with their union business manager and through their steward uh to negotiate some of the language to that contract. So, uh with that, I'll take any questions. I do know we have time for public comment.

Thank you, mayor. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to ask a question about special ordinance number 22, 2022? Council, you want to pass it? I'm sorry, Council President Chalis. Mayor, real quick. So, if it doesn't get passed, then basically they would get paid the same as this year.

Yes. So, uh, essentially any of our salary ordinances for any department is essentially a cap, right? That is like the highest amount that you can pay them is what this council approves. Uh, for some of our other employees and other departments, if they get a certification, then they can get that cap. If they don't, or if their department head says, "Hey, it's your first year. We'll build you up over time," then they get paid less than that. So, what this council's action is tonight is to pass the cap, the highest amount. uh if we do not reach an agreement then yes they would stay on the 2025 pay scale uh for the period of a couple of years while we kind of wait and see how that plays out. Okay, thanks Mayor.

And I think we talked about this last week, you know, as much as we like I mean these guys gets their ca heads caved in. We all know that when it comes to the to the storms, when it comes to the the streets, when it comes to and they're doing a lot of work with a lot less um compared to the days when we were on the council years ago, you know, but definitely don't want to see these guys go backwards, you know, and by state statute, we have a choice. We have to either pass it or lower it. I'm damn sure not going to lower it for these guys, right? I've got some really good friends on there. Um, so my suggestion is that we at least set the cards, let them at least get the 6% until they fight it out or do whatever they they're going to do to try to get it rectified.

Is that a motion? Yeah, sure. I move that we we get that. I move that we pass special orders 22 2022. And I needed my glasses. Sorry. I understand. Second. It's been moved by council personal, seconded by council person Azar that we approve special ordinance number 22 2025. All in favor, please say I. I. Opposed? That passes. Thank you guys. Next order of business, please. Michelle, special ordinance 23 2025 to 2026 salary ordinance for transit department.

Good evening, council president, nation, and members of the terote city council. So, one thing I want to point out is last year we passed special ordinance number 41. Um, and that ordinance was for this year's pay for transit. And what we had done is we had correctly budgeted and calculated for the rate that they're getting paid this year, but we had not amended the salary ordinance because we had finished we were we had started negotiations after that ordinance was in. Their previous contract had gotten passed at a much later date. uh for reasons that unbeknownst to us. So we we brought them in, we said, "Hey, look, you actually have 3%, not 1%." So here's your 3% raise, not 1%. Then we went back as we brought this year's increase in front of you, it was identified that there was a discrep discrepancy for the uh 2025 passed in 2024 number. So passed in the salary ordinance in 2024 was 2137, 2243, 2144, and 1825. That's for bus operator, mechanics, cleaners, and utility men and part-time employees. The actual rates, which are the rates they had been getting paid, 2201, 2309, 2209, and 1879. That will come in an amendment. So, we'll correct this year's ordinance, I believe, on November 6th. In front of you is to take next year's salary to a 5% increase based off the discussions with that union.

Clear as mud, mayor. Yeah. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to ask a question about special ordinance number 23, 2025? Council Mr. President, Council Person, is utility men a technical term? I couldn't tell you that one to be honest. Is it only men or is that a I believe the the individuals who are in that specific position are male. Yes,

currently. What happens if a woman applies and becomes a utility person? It would be I mean they would be paid at that rate. I'm not concerned about the pay. Okay. We will look at the name of that position. I I see what you're saying. Contract in the contract. You have to compare it with the contract. Got it. So we'll compare this ordinance to the contract because theoretically if we change this on the spot to utility person, the contract's what we need to correctly change. Thank you. I yield. Anybody else? Mr. President.

Council person Hinton. I move that we approve special ordinance number 23 20225. Second. It's been moved by Council Person Hinton. Second by Council Person Dinkle that we approve special ordinance number 23 2025. All in favor, please say I. I. Opposed. That one passes. Thank you, mayor. Next order of business, please, Michelle. Appropriation 15, 2025, the 2026 Sarah City of Terote sanitary budget. You must vote to take action prior to passage. So, do you remember how on the last one, Council President Nation, we said clear as mud? Yes.

All right, let's get out of here. So, uh, what this is is this is appropriation 15205. And essentially this allows us to keep the same tax levy and not increase it and correct on our books a mispayment from years ago that we now have to document. So this is essentially an administrative correction keeping the levy the same because if you don't do this correction and the bond comes to the end of its life cycle it changes the tax rate and it increases it. So, we're not going to do that and instead going to fix some mistakes and get this book clean. And it had happened before we got here and I understand there was a lot going on and I don't point any fingers at that. But this is in front of you for payments on bonds and principal for debt services tied to the sanitary district. The sanitary district is like the wastewater treatment plant. And the big projects really started six, seven years ago with the main lift station and the bond associated to that. Good luck with that one. And I feel free for any questions. I'll do my best uh to make it through that. But there was a lot of work uh with our financial consultants to get this administratively cleaned up. And it I'm doing my my best to explain as I'm not a partner at uh Baker Tilly or Crow.

Thank you for the explanation. Uh, when I looked at the documentation, I thought, well, there must be more to this than just, you know, one page of a spreadsheet.

I did find something else out though, council nation. We do we don't normally do this but we should normally do this and that's keep this one separate from the overall city budget because by doing so if you have a significant change in assessed value you can capture some of that circuit breaker loss and use that to adjust the interest rates and the bonding capacity of a project to get it one paid earlier or two to even lower the interest rate. So, there's also a very deliberate reason why this one is separate, which I I just found that interesting and it clicked for me when when it was explained that way. Sounds like something that would show up in a state board of accounts audit. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Um, okay. Uh, is there anyone in the audience who has a question about appropriation number 15, 2025? Hearing none. Council,

Mr. President, Council Person, no further discussion. I move that we take action on appropriation 15, 2025. Second. It's been moved that we take action on appropriation number 15, 2025. All in favor, please say I. I. I. Opposed. All right, we can take action. Mr. President, Council Person Dick. I move for approval of appropriation 15 2022. Second. It's been moved by Council Person Dickl, seconded by Council Person Thompson that we approve appropriation number 15, 2025. All in favor of approval, please say I.

I. Opposed. That passes. Thank you. Next order of business, please. Michelle. General Ordinance 11, 2025, amending City Code, Chapter 6, Article 3, Division 2, Section 6-49, false fire alarms. Uh, Mr. President, I just wanted to point out there was an issue with the legal notice. So, you cannot take any action tonight. It will be heard again November 6th.

Yes. So, I was going to come to say, hey, we want to respectfully ask for this one to be moved to November 6th. The wavetop perspective of this is we are seeing significant issues of uh individuals who think it's funny to pull a fire alarm. Uh and because that is illegal, you know, illegal, uh we kind of went through the code and we're like, well, you know, sometimes these are so some of these fines are just so low and it's not registering to said individuals. So, we are updating that code, modernizing it, uh and then we'll bring it back. the fire department and city attorney Michael Wright will be here to address this topic in granular detail in November. Thank you, mayor.

And we don't need to take any action at all on this. So, we'll just keep moving. Again, move to adjourn. Second. It's been moved by Council Person Azar, second by Council Person Hinton that we adjourn. All in favor, please say I. I. Opposed. We stand adjourned. See you in November, folks. Next meeting is on my birthday. Is it only the first meeting? Are you showing me?