Planning and Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Call the October 6, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting to order at 5:36 p.m. Mr. John Atkinson, please call the role. Commissioner Morales, present. Commissioner Walker, present. Commissioner Jerasic, present. Commissioner Rhodess, present. Commissioner Carney present. Commissioner Longo present. Commissioner AG present. Vice Chair Smith. Chair Crossy present. For the record, a quorum is present with eight commissioners in attendance. Thank you.

Thank you. If you will please stand while Commissioner Rhodess will give the invocation and Commissioner Ljino will lead us in the pledge of allegiance. Pray with me. Our Lord, thank you for this day and this opportunity again to serve. Lord, we pray um as you will just continue to guide us in our community and all that all the growth that has gone on and is continuing to go on. Pray that you'll just guide us to make the right decisions uh both here at this board, the city council, and all the other boards and uh with our community itself. Lord, pray uh continue to pray for our country as we go through change and just guide uh us in all we do and say. In your name we pray. Amen.

Amen. Join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

May be seated. We will now confirm the meeting agenda items. Are there any questions or comments? If there are no objections, we will approve the meeting agenda items by unanimous consent. Since there is no objection, the meeting agenda items are approved by unanimous consent. We will move on to item four which is the election of chair and vice chair. Election of chair and receding. I have a nomination for chair.

He's not here. I make a motion or I nominate Greg, Commissioner Greg Rhodess for the chair position. I'll second. Motion has been made by Commissioner Krowy and a second by Commissioner Longino to recommend Commissioner Rhodess for the position of chair. John, may we have a vote? Commissioner Morales. I Commissioner Walker. I Commissioner Jerasic. I Commissioner Rhodess. Yes. So, Commissioner Carney. Hi.

Commissioner Longino. I. Commissioner Angie. I. Chair Crossy. I. Vote is unanimous. Motion carries. We'll now go to the election of vice chair. Is there a motion or nomination for vice chair? I'd like to nominate Jeremy Jasic.

A motion has been made by Commissioner Morales and a second by Commissioner Carney to recommend Jeremy Commissioner Jeremy Jerasic for the position of vice chair. John, may we have a vote? Commissioner Morales. Hi. Commissioner Walker. Hi. Commissioner Jerasic. Hi. Commissioner Rhodess. Hi. Commissioner Carney. Hi. Commissioner Longino. I. Commissioner Ag. Uh, Commissioner Krowy. I.

Vote is unanimous. Motion carries. Shuffle. Oh, we're doing it now. Yep. Oh, we're doing it now. Over this, correct? That's what I figured. I guess I get to read the Okay, we're just gonna try. Okay, you're good. You're good. There's your pen. Do you have it? I've got one. Yeah.

Okay. Where are you at in this thing? Okay. Got it. Got it. All right. With this newly appointed, we'll move on to the regular agenda, I believe. Is am I right? I'm trying to get organized. Should be public comments. Public comments.

Okay. Sorry. Are there any public comments at this at this time? If so, please come forward to the mic, state your name and address for the record, and please keep your comments to three minutes. Seeing none, we'll move on to the consent items. On the consent agenda, approval item number four, the September 15th, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting minutes. Are there any questions or comments toward that? No questions. I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion for approval as presented.

Uh first by Commissioner Morales and a second by Carney. Commissioner Carney. All right. I got to get organized. Sorry. All right. Now we will move on to our public hearing. Um, item number six, FY25-3 AM ND. We're going to read all three of them. Correct. If we can uh do a quick vote for the What did I not vote for? Oh. Oh, the consent agenda. All right. Sorry, Mr. Atkins. Can we call for a vote? Commissioner Morales. I. Commissioner Walker. Hi, Commissioner Carney. I. Commissioner Longino. I.

Commissioner AG. I. Commissioner Kray I. Vice Chair Jerasic. I. Chair Rhodess. I. Vote is unanimous. Motion carries. Sorry about that. I'm out of practice. Okay. So, items six, seven, and eight. Do I need to read all three together? Yes.

Okay. All right. Item number 6, FY-25-3 ND. hold a public hearing to discuss and recommend action on an amendment to ordinance 2020-5061 city of Temple comprehensive plan 2020 to amend the future development category from residential and neighborhood services to corridor mixed use on 229.361 acres located in the city of Temple Bell County, Texas addressed as 8930 and 9018 Old Highway 95. Item number 7 FY-25-33- AMD AM ND hold a public hearing to discuss and recommend action on the amendment to ordinance 2020-561 city of temple comprehensive plan 2020 to amend the future thorough fire plan in the area south of FM93 and then FM um item number 8 FY-29-29 9 Z-Z hold a public hearing to discuss and recommend action on a plan on a reszoning request and binding site development plan for agriculture to plan development single family dwelling three PDSF3 for a mixeduse development with a minimum 40% of land area detached single family homes maximum of 10% for townhouse single Single family attached three SF SFA3 maximum 25% for multifamily 2 MF2 and maximum of 25% for general retail with additional uses for GR portion to

include drive-in theater movie storage warehouse vertical mixed use with multif family 3 MF3 and conditional use permit CUP in the GR portion for the sale on the premise consumption of alcoholic beverages was 75% or more of revenue from alcohol on the 229.361 acres located in the city of Temple, Bell County, Texas, addressed as 8930 and 918 Old Highway 95. The case will be presented by Cheryl Maxwell and Jason Beck.

Right. Thank you. Thank you, cheer. Uh we will be doing a tag team approach for this. So I'm going to go ahead and start out with the zoning case. Um this is scheduled to go to the council reading, first reading October the 16th and the second reading November the 6. So this shows the location of the property. This is um on the west side of Old Highway 95. Um and it's bordered on the west side by the railroad tracks. It's located uh way south. You can see the bubbles here would be the edge of our ETJ area. Um, sorry, back over there. Um, the area is primarily uh large acreage, either cultivated land or undeveloped. Cultivated land or undeveloped. Um, there are some residential subdivisions in the area. On the north side, you've got uh Chimney Hill subdivision. On the south, you got the Cotton Bottom Estates, which is undergoing development. And then over on the the west side, you have the um Hartri Hartrick Ranch uh development. Um again the area is primarily either cultivated land on this on the tract itself. The southern part is cultivated and the northern part is undeveloped. There is a a residence um located on the property. So these are some photos of the property. On the north side again you got the cultivated land. Um on the south um I'm sorry the north side you got undeveloped land. On the south you got cultivated land. And then in between this is the residence with um some storage silos. There are some trees on the property. This is actually I think the only place where there are some trees because it's quite large and this is the only trees. Um this is the view from the railroad tracks on the west side and again that that portion of the property towards the south is cultivated. Um this uh the adjacent properties to the north. Um you can see the fence line there. This is undeveloped way towards the the backside. There's some cultivated land and this is a residence that's also located on the property to the north. Adjacent property to the south. um again where you have um kind

of close to the railroad tracks. The land is undeveloped and the adjacent property to the west you get the railroad tracks again and again some cultivated land on the west side of the railroad tracks and properties on the east side of old 95 um primarily cultivated land. There is a residence there's like a private uh drive that's stretches pretty far to the east side where you'll find a residence. Um this is a shot of the Chimney Hill subdivision um to the north and then these are uh pictures of the cotton bottom estates. So um the zoning of the property is currently agg. Um the property on the west side of of the railroad track. There's a portion zoned a also PDSF2 that kind of goes with the uh the residential subdivision. This property is actually owned by the city of Temple. It's proposed for a future park. Um this is a mixeduse development. Um it'll include single family homes, town homes, multif family, and general retail. So this this is the uh site uh plan. You've got SF3 minimum 40% will be shown here in the uh light brown areas. Um SFA3 for the town homes is shown in the dark brown areas. Uh multifamily, I'm sorry, uh the town homes will be part of the MF part of the single family three, part of the the light brown areas that'll be incorporated with the the single family three. The multif family is shown in the dark brown and that's the maximum 25%. And then the general retail is shown in red. That's also a maximum 25%. There's some additional uses that are um proposed to be allowed in the general retail area. This includes an outdoor theater. Uh vertical mixed use with MF3 density. Um typically the MF3 density is allows up to 40 dwelling units per acre and a height up to 10 stories. However, there's a PD condition that would limit the height to a maximum of five stories. And then also in the GR area, they're requesting a C to allow the sale of um all all alcoholic beverages for on-remise consumption. Um so the total multif family that would be allowed on the property between the

MF2 and the MF3 combined would be limited to 25% of the land area. Uh the town homes um the attached homes would be uh generally they have a minimum lot area of um the requirement is 2,300 square feet. There's a PD uh condition that would allow this to be reduced to 2,000 square feet. And then again, you have the C for on- premise sale and consumption of all alcoholic beverages in the GR portion. Um the applicant is requesting the alcohol sales um comprising more than 75% of the total revenue, which we talked a little bit about, which is more like a bar setting. Staff is recommending a lesser category um comprising the sales of the alcohol comprising up to 75% of the total revenue, which again is more like a restaurant setting. uh staff has concerned um with the GR area with no restrictions on the on the the bar type use. You've got 57 acres um could allow any number of bars. You know, perhaps there's a a PD condition that could limit the number or some other restriction that would give you a little bit more comfort level, but um that's primarily the uh the reason staff is recommending the up to 75% uh total revenue instead of over 75%. So, there's several charts and tables in your packet. This one compares the different uses that are allowed in the different zoning districts. I'm just not really going to cover that. Um there's also dimensional standards. And again, I want to point out for the MF2 and the MF3, MF2 allows a height up to four stories. MF3 is um would allow 10 stories, but there is a PD condition that would limit that to five. And then general retail is allowed to go up to three stories. This is um a chart that's also in your packet. U we do this with all the PDs. Um just want to note that the conditions are either satisfied now or they will be reviewed and satisfied um in the future with the site plan review in the in the subdivision plan. And this chart um basically compares the the different zoning districts and the dwelling units that would be allowed to kind of come up with the total dwelling units possible. Uh we break down the different zoning districts um the area

requirement basically the the percentages that the PD is establishing. um we calculated what that would be in acreage and then the number of dwelling units per acre. Um we've listed here what's typical for those zoning districts and kind of did the math. So you come up with a ballpark figure. Um this range is basically depending upon the the um there's flexibility. So how the property is developed you could have a minimum of 1,700 dwelling units up to about 3,700 dwelling units. And do want to note that these calculations um are based on straight acreage. We didn't subtract areas for the parks, open areas, or you know, right away, that sort of thing. So, this is just a very rough rough estimate. And I'll switch over to Jason and let him talk a little bit about the traffic analysis.

All right. So, this is the first run where I'll tag in. Uh so starting from that theoretical density that Cheryl showed uh I started looking at you know what's some expected uses between the mix of the general retail the types of uh residential that could go in there um and come up with some trip generation and what you'll see is that the existing capacity for old highway 9 theoretically it's an arterial in actual life it's in actual reality it's not built as an arterial um so it really has a capacity of around 2600 daily trips. Theoretically, an arterial would go up to 24,000. It's not an arterial now. We'd like to see that it would become that either through this project or another phase or potential capital improvement project. But we're looking at well over 20,000 trips of this development. Now, that said, I'm not an engineer and I'm also not a crystal ball reader. Uh, so that's an educated guess. what actually comes out of here is going to really to be dependent on the mix and the type of uses. You know, mini storage, for example, was one of the allowances. That's not a hight traffic generator. A restaurant or a big box retail or a fast food restaurant is going to drive a lot more traffic. We just don't know what those uses will be till Mr. Kila does his job. At the end, it's expected to exceed the capacity of the road. um which is one of the reasons you're going to look at the thoroughfare plan amendments here shortly. As far as crash history, there isn't a lot of traffic on that road uh to generate a lot of crash history other than the intersection with 93 and old highway 95. If you lived in this area, you know, that's been a problem for a long time. And there is a traffic signal coming there in the near future. Um Mr. Francisco over there has been working with the city engineer

staff uh and with Texot to get those designs moved forward so that traffic can be constructed and that's based on the first phase that came in the new Temple ISD school. Y'all may remember there was a reasonzoning and uh preliminary plat in that area as well as the development on the north side for Leyon River that those two residential developments and the school at some point uh depending on which one comes first. There's definitely going to be a need for two signals. This one at 95 or excuse me at old 95 and 93 will be the one that comes first. So, that one's already in the pipeline for design to address some of those crashes on that map. There have been fatalities in the past uh when I did the selection uh for the last 5 years. Fortunately, there have not been, but I know that's a that is a hot spot that we'll all be glad to see that signal come in. So, let's talk about this specific phase with that need for the additional capacity. Uh, and this was part of the proposal from the developer was to add a collector that you see that runs from the southeast and then veers to the north and an arterial that's going to cross the property and eventually cross that railroad that's going to provide some east west capability and that collector is going to run north through the other phases. Uh, the ones that have been approved and future ones that are coming. that's going to give you some additional capacity off of 95. You'll be able to run north and south without having to go out to the main road. So that just having those two options is going to be an improvement on traffic. But to get there, we have a thoroughfare plan amendment that started from this area and then we'll look at the bigger picture. So as I said, old Highway 95, it's not currently listed as a CIP project. Uh

we're staff is evaluating, you know, how that can be improved. There's agreement across the board that the improvement is going to be necessary. Um so we're not going to pin ourselves down one way or the other at the resoning stage, but just get on the map that it's needed. Um the new thorough affairs will address some of the impact and then compliance with the residential subdivision given the number of dwellings, the number of uh businesses and how those local streets feed onto those collectors. That'll get evaluated at the plant stage very similar to what we did with another recent large residential mixeduse development on the north side which was Severie Ranch. We evaluated how the collectors were going to cross through that and then how each phase how many entrances were going to be off those collectors. This will be evaluated the same way. the residential part comes in when we look at that uh safety fire access question is there going to be or are there will there be enough entrances that we don't create a bottleneck we don't create a delay in the first responders and with the reszoning there's also trails master plan collector connector shown along old highway 95 um part of The subdivision plan for this one is the those two collectors, the collector and the arterial, excuse me, that you saw in the site plan will have minimum sixoot sidewalks. The that'll provide some of the necessary pedestrian connectivity in this area as well as with adjacent phases. I'll hand it back over to Cheryl. So with regard to okay with regard to utilities um there is an existing 8 inch water line along old highway uh 95 and there is existing sewer line at the south uh west corner there. So um the applicant has facilities available

they'll have to you know make connections extensions in line with the the water wastewater master plan and on the compliance summary with regarding to the future development plan and the thoroughfare plan. We feel this is in compliance uh with approval of the two amendments that are before you. Um it's compatible with surrounding uses and zoning. U public facilities are available um and there is no neighborhood plan in this area. So the comp plan um amendments both the uh future land use and the thoroughfare plan are again the same schedule as the zoning case move to the council uh first reading October the 16th and second on November the 6th and I think Jason's going to cover it.

So those you were here in 2020 we adopted the 2020 comprehensive plan that included the future land use and the thoroughfare plan. uh in this case that was it was this phase specifically that started the discussion but we'd been looking at that that that area with the first phase of Meadow Lake and that new school as we looked at the preliminary plat and you can see on the uh on the map how that collector kind of wraps around. So, we've been looking at this for a minute uh and this this development and then the guidance from city manager's office about how we're going to handle these thoroughfare plan and comp plan amendments. This will be the first case of bringing these forward as a package. So, with the comp plan on the left hand side, uh it's specifically for that phase to recommend that change to a corridor mixeduse the area shown as residential neighborhood services. Uh but there's some mixeduse activities and a lot of this is going to be residential but given that this project had the mixeduse component uh let's bring that into more close compliance with the comp plan. So that is just going to be the phase you see highlighted the the hashed area on the map. So, the residential and neighborhood service allows single family up to fourplexes. Um, the commercial uses, the multifamily uses might not be appropriate, but the corridor mixuse starts to open that gate just a little bit wider. And then you can have those uses in close proximity, which is a great traffic reducer. you don't have to take a trip clear across town if you're right there between your restaurant, your shopping, your school, and your homes. Uh we do feel that the residential

neighborhood service around this area for for now is appropriate. If another project comes in that may change that thinking that may promote a mix of uses, we may come back. But for the time being, this count plan amendment is just for the uh phase three of Meadow Lake. With the thoroughfare plan, obviously you're looking at how traffic gets in and out of this neighborhood and how it interacts with the rest of the roadway network. So, we took a little bit wider view, grabbed our wide angle lens and and looked at the map, had some great discussions with uh Mr. Keela and with Mr. Isco over there. What does that look like? So you can see this is what the current thoroughare map shows. There is if you can follow and I'm sorry Mr. Ag you're going to have to crane your neck if you want to follow. But we've got two community collectors over on the west side of the railroad. We've got old 95 which is an arterial. We have an arterial to the south. And we had this collector which cut across diagonally and eventually veered over to old highway or to state highway 95 which made sense. It's got some good spacing. You as you increase density you start to increase the spacing or decrease the spacing of your collectors and arterials. So when this was laid out on the map the area was fairly undeveloped. There wasn't a lot going on. Now that there's more stuff happening, it does change the thinking and let's rearrange it a little bit. So what we've done is, so you can see this matches where that site plan showed that collector and this runs all the way up to where that second signal will come in in the future. We're adding a collector. It it still follows this alignment, but now we've got two and this will lead across. Realign it a

little bit, but keeps the same general concept. We're moving this arterial and we're extending it. So now you've got two arterials fairly close together, but given the density, it makes sense. And this is one of those things where thoroughare planning is as much of an art as it is a science. So we're taking this collector and that comes down, that arterial comes up, but now we've got an arterial through fairly well the center of what's becoming a dense residential area with some mixed commercial uses. Thank you. As we're changing our policy for how we do these thoroughfare plans, I've come up with what I'm going to call the four C's. And it's just a way of having a method to look at why are we changing this? Does this make sense? Is this going to work? So the first one is constructibility. Is there something that you know this doesn't make sense? You're not going to be able to build a road across down a bluff through a massive flood plane through part of Fort Hood or part of our airport something that you know that there's just very little control over that land allowing you to build that road through there. So these are all deemed constructible. Does it provide the necessary connectivity? You know, and that goes to increasing the network but also the spacing. And like I said, as this density increases, then those arterials start to squeeze closer together and we add more collectors as you can see. So, we've added the connectivity. Um, is it conducive to the character? You know, is an arterial right next to your your home appropriate? Possibly. It's definitely appropriate where you have a mix of commercial and residential uses that multifamily, the retail, whether that's restaurants or shops or or um other

businesses, then that arterial as it crosses the the railroad right away. It does start to make sense with that character. And then the capacity, are we providing enough roadways at the right classification that'll have enough lane miles to handle the traffic that's going to be generated? And we think the answer to those four is yes. So that being said, staff recommends approval of the future land use map amendment and staff recommends approval of the thoroughfare plan amendment. However, this is all a big package. Uh and we did send out notifications for the amendments. Uh the notice of the property owners is not required for the comp plan amendments for the thoroughfare plans. Um but it is required for the zoning case. and Cheryl's going to take back over for me.

Do um so for the zoning case, uh notice of the public hearing was printed in the telegram on September the 25th. Um notices were mailed to three property owners in the city limits and those are actually city ownership and then there were three courtesy notices to the ETJ properties. Um the school districts were also notified and we've not received any um response. Uh the DRC did review this on August the 18th and their recommendations were incorporated into the PD conditions. So we're recommending approval of the zoning case and the site development plan plan subject to 15 conditions of approval. And again as we mentioned the applicant does not concur concur with the C recommendation which is number 14 is requesting 75% revenue from alcohol sales. So there's 15 conditions. I'm not going to go through all of them. most of them have um or several of them have been covered in the presentation. So, I'm just going to point out those that we haven't um talked about. Do want to point out on the um the GR portion with the vertical mixuse that's proposed. Um again, that would be a combination of um multif family, general retail, but the building height would be limited to five stories and then the MF3 again limited to five stories. Um I want to touch on seven, eight, and nine. These all involve um rear parking and access. So for the residential lots which is the SF3 and the SFA3 um there's a requirement that the a maximum of 50% of the building coverage um has to be preserved in the rear half of the property. This is being waved if parking and access is provided at the rear of the lot. Uh front yard setback for residential lots may be reduced to uh 10 feet if parking and again access is provided at the rear of the lot. And town homes require rear parking access unless the lot widths are 25 feet or more. And then landscaping. Uh typically the landscaping requirement in our UDC is a minimum 5%. Um this requires a minimum 10% for non-residential and multif family uses. Also requires a minimum of

one tree in the front yards of the residential lots and preservation of the existing trees is recommended. Screening and buffering is required between single family residential uses and adjacent um multif family or non-residential uses either with a solid fence or masonry wall or a vegetative buffer buffer zone. And then um again we hear we talk about the approval of the C and the GR area recommending less than 75% of the total gross revenue and then uh the planning director may approve minor changes um major significant changes would have to come back through the PNZ and the city council and the DRC will be basically has the authority to review and approve the detailed site plan and elevations for the non-residential and multif family uses with discretion to refer to public site plan approval by the PND and the city council. So um moving forward we'll come to you can ask any questions but when you are ready to move forward um this will be a combined public hearing but you'll need to vote on each one of these separately

and I'll be Jason and I'll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you commissioners. Are there any questions or comments? Let me make one addition to uh Cheryl's too. You can go back to Sure. just to make sure that you know for y'all and anyone who's watching. Um well the previous slide you'll have to make the motions for the thoroughare and comp plan amendments first then the zoning so that you're approving the zoning based on the approval of the amendments. Great. Thank you. Okay. Would you like those questions for all those beforehand or I think the whole thing goes together so fire away.

Yeah. So from this board any commission any questions or comments? I I have a question about your recommendation of the 75% that that is simply so that someone can't go out and build 10 bars out there. Is that what

I think that's uh one right one you've got 57 acres and again the applicant may want to address that but there's right right now there's no restrictions you've got 57 acres and I mean granted there won't be next to any schools there's certain restrictions for that but um you know we know he's responsible but it it just feel like there should be some we're a little bit we' be comfortable with the restaurant use because it's not like a full-fledged bar but we feel like there should be some limitations or you know if you want to go with the the full bar some sort of limitation on it before John comes up is there anybody else

I'll say typically with a cup it's for one specific whether it's a liquor store or one restaurant or a bar so you're looking the specific characteristics of that site the surrounding neighborhood um you know in this case it's worked well in Westfield I've I've done plenty of drinking at at Boulder Republic and a few other places um not to say that there haven't been some hiccups and some challenges with with some of those locations. So with this case by giving the blanket cup for over 75% staff's thinking is that that removes maybe that layer of oversight and scrutiny that might be necessary. Um

but it has worked well. So it's it's a case of how how riskaverse do we want to be as staff and as elected and appointed officials. I think that's what we're getting at. And again, so city council at any time can pull a cup and wouldn't any time they're ready to build buildings, we'll obviously platt and all that kind of stuff, right? Yes, sir. So, yes, C CUPs can be uh revoked if it no longer fits the character. They have to make some findings, but that's all there is.

Okay. So, this does require a public hearing, but before we do that, because we're not going to give a necessary time limit, I'm going ask Mr. Kila to come up and tell us a little bit about the project and if this is going to be at Adams number two. Just kidding.

Thank you, John Keela. I live at 11122 White Rock. Uh number one, I thank you for your service having sat there before. I know what it takes to sit behind there. Also would like to thank staff. They put a lot of hours into working this um particular piece of a very large puzzle that you will see us come with over the next six months. I'm in control of about a thousand acres. So across across the tracks, you've already seen the Hartrick Bluff and you know we're connecting that with an arterial, but that's we have concentrated our housing on the west side of the tracks and the east really concentrating in two areas where we're going to concentrate our retail like I did at Westfield. I'm in control of where that retail is going to be. We will own those properties. So we control them. We pretty much develop them and make sure what we'll be putting in those areas. The reason I like the 100% is because then I can declare to everyone that we'll have bars there. You never really know where it is. That's your biggest problem. Bold Republic, you know, I made sure that I had that CUP there. And when the church came to me and said, "Can I locate my church there?" I said, you know, I got to declare to you guys that we could be building a bar here. And it was great when Bold built that that Austin stood up at the church and said, "Hey, you guys weren't support of us because Keela told us from the beginning that bar was going to be there." Full disclosure, transparency is what keeps people from standing in front of you and say, "Why didn't you tell us?" You know, why why didn't you let us know? I've done that cups on the front end always so that I can do one thing. be honest with the people the bu the houses we're building people can say nugget I'm telling you right from the front we're

going to have a bar there I located the school td currently working with the uh academy for multiple locations I've located this core if you'll notice in the center of the high school academy and the bis or the tisd property so we think 20 years out I don't really look at stuff at a single little piece here. U this thoroughfare plan we've laid out. I paid a lot of money to make sure that those lines are there and I control the property so that that's where they're going to be. They're not that pretty line on paper. You see those will be built really close to that. And so I'll answer any question I can do.

John, what's the goal for 95? I mean, do you have the vision of making it kind of like a Adams?

They they do. They do. Um, you got major power lines on both sides. Uh, it's a little tight. That's why I've controlled everything to go over to 95, not old 95. So, I think your east west is where we're going to carry the traffic. There's possibility they'll try to move some major power lines that run up and down there. I don't see my me doing that. And so, for me, I'm not sure it'll it'll act as a good collector. I'm not so sure it'll be the main arterial. We're going to have a lot of time to button this up. See, we're in zoning. It's just the way the process goes here. You got to get your comp plan, you got to get your thoroughfare plan, then you got to get your zoning so I can bring a plat. And this a 20-year project. I mean, Westfield, you guys have been out there. I mean, you guys, it's a long-term project. And the land, you know, what I do is we've really not done as many of the little teeny ones anymore. I go in and buy a thousand acres, try to set where the church is going to be, where's the school going to be, where's the restaurant's going to be, where's the bar, but you can't tell exactly where it is. So, it's just easier to declare today. Say, "Hey guys, going to have a bar there." The rest is, you know, just a little bit of faith. Um, do you have faith in me? And that's a tough one. I mean, you know, the city can pull a CP anytime they want. To me, it's there's a problem out there that it's not like a zoning case to where you won't it's harder to do it. They can just in a single vote sat right behind there and say, "Look, we don't like he's got too many bars. We're going to pull him." So, I appreciate your

As of now, it's going to be AISD and TISD, right?

Splits this track of land and and we've worked really hard in in my development plan to try to locate that so that I don't have any houses split. You probably don't know this, but like out at Westfield, I literally had to go to BISD and TISD and make sure that there was no kid that ended up in both school systems. By law, it's where the kid sleeps, right? Think of that one. Taxing and everything. They do it by bedrooms. And so for us, we make sure that we look at that line. I lay my streets out. And if we get into a situation where I have a house that's split, I will be in front of the TISD and the AISD and say, "Guys, let's make sure that we do this right." And so our family tries to be way out 10 years, not look at uh a 100 lot subdivision and not, you know, let everybody else worry about it. I've worked with the uh chief of fire. We got a location for a fire department there. It will be on their plat and it will be sold in day one. He's really excited to know where that fire station is going to be in the south so we can locate it. I've worked with him on the other 13 also. So, you know, we spent a lot of time trying to make Temple the place to be. As you know, my heart's here and we'll do the right thing. And on last thing on um because I was on this board when uh uh Adams came on on board and you did the cup the way you're asking for it to be done at that time, right?

This almost mirrors Westfield. It's just what we've done. There's a lot of weird little things like a drive-in. But I've also if you're going to go out there and even just have a movie theater, small one. I mean just where cars can pull up, you know. I've tried to think out in front and looked at spent a lot of time in Colorado, spent a lot of time Palm Springs, spent a lot of time in Austin, and you look at what can be if Temple is going to be all it can be. And I try to make sure that I don't have to come back here, you know, vertical. We don't vertical zoning's tough. We can do a restaurant below or, you know, office below and put houses above and we're making that change. You've seen town homes. Some of the first ones are on Westfield Boulevard and crazy, you know, we have done them not as a unit but as a lot in hopes that someday we could sell them. So those that I built there on Westfield Boulevard, I've leased them all out as units but sold four buildings. Of those four buildings, 80% of them have been sold as single units now. So if you followed that, so they're people are now buying town homes in Temple, Texas. So we're going to push that envelope. you know, we we'd like to do a a Texas wrap here if it works, but if it doesn't, you know, it's hard. We're constantly pushing Temple, Texas. Uh it's being pushed to be honest with you. We're trying to stay up with the pressure from the south. So, the buyers that are really coming into Temple, Texas are a little bit more sophisticated than what we've seen in the past. So, I'm trying to keep my zoning, my developments, and our vision in line with what we are going to see, I think, in the future. So on so everybody on Westfield, he asked for it the same way that we're he's asking for it to be approved tonight. And so to be honest with churches or whatever the case may be. So

that's the best way to be transparent. That's not what you're asking for. That's not what I'm asking for. That's what the city is asking for. The city's asking for is less than 75%. He's asking for more than 75. So I can just the transparency. It's just a cup too. It's very different than the zoning. Sony, you can always build a restaurant. You can always you're declaring that and so Okay. Thank you, sir. All right. Um, this case also requires a public hearing. We will now hear from the public. If you wish to come and speak and are attending in person, please come to the podium. State your name and address. And if you are viewing online, please raise your hand virtually and state your name and city of residence for the record.

Alan Lidle. I live here in Temple. And I just have a real quick question. We several of the thorough affairs and um what' you call the other manus, huh? The future manus. Yeah. Future the side of the thoroughare was what's arterial. Oh,

some of the arterials are going to cross the uh railroad tracks. I know we've gone to a lot of trouble in the city here to remove those crossings and put in bridges. And I also know that those things are are very very expensive. But the question is, are we going to put bridges over the railroad tracks, not just simply crossings with crossing guards? Okay, Cheryl, Jason, I'm gonna look at Mr. Isco over there. I know we've we've talked at or John, whoever wants to maybe

share more detail. Yeah, I think we would prefer not to have the at grade. Um but at some point when you're going to connect those together, it's going to be section. Just so for those on the record, he did say that the the goal is to have an elevated crossing to not have the at grade just because of the conflicts. And those are active railroad tracks. are active busy tracks. Yes, sir. Okay. Just just to be clear, none of those proposed crossings are on this property we're even talking about, right? It borders it.

And to be clear, you know, one of the good things about standards is that I sure that you were being smarter

enough. I don't sign checks so I'm not saying anything either way. Yes, sir.

I should be up there. One of the great things in working with the city in my project someday I was here 25 years ago I think was too artial that should have been built and it never got built because we didn't get out of it that's over 31st that our material should have been built and it never was because we didn't get it on a plan and have enough to make sure we could get it done. They've been doing a heck of a job. They city council in the city in making sure the right places

do you know what the rideway is for the railroad there? I don't off the top of my head. about 100 feet is what I'm being told. And Cheryl, you went out and took the photos, but I think you can kind of see it on the aerial that that that farm lane is on the southern boundary. Is that correct? On the west of the road track, the one that Yeah, that where there's that little dirt. Is that on the southern boundary? Oh, that's the southern. Yeah,

there's a little dirt path that crosses the railroad. there's just a a crossing for the farm vehicles. Um, but that's on the southern end and you saw in the site plan that that arterial is going to be at the northern end. So, it would be a different location that if you started looking at aerial photos today and you found the existing crossing, the future arterial is going to be a different spot. I think was that your your question? No, I just know that if it's going to go over the tracks into a 75 foot rideway, 100 foot rideway, then that that that leadup to that is going to be into your property. That's all I just trying to figure out.

I've worked really close on exactly what it would take

eastward. When you look west, you're not going to go much further than there alternative terms where most important is getting over 95 roundabout. the north that goes into a roundabout there from I think doesn't make much sense. All you're doing is taking the traffic.

All right. If there's no other comments, we're going to close the public hearing. And if there are any more questions for this board and again um two different ways to look at this Mr. Keela is asking for it as 100% or however it's worded greater than Grady's greater than 75 and the uh P&Z guys are asking for sorry you know what I'm saying is asking for less than 75. So which uh we're going to I'm going to ask for a motion from somebody and let me know. So we have to approve the two amendments first. Right. Right. You want to do those first and then go to that?

Go ahead and do a motion to approve the two amendments FY25-3 and FY-25-33 as presented. Mr. Carney, do both of them. I'm okay with that for the amendments. Yes. Okay. And second. All right. So on both amendments, Commissioner Carney and then uh Commissioner Ag for a second. Can we call for a vote? Commissioner Morales. Hi. Commissioner Walker. Hi. Commissioner Carney. Hi. Commissioner Longino. Hi. Commissioner Agie. Hi. Commissioner Kray. Hi. Vice Chair Smith Jurassic. Hi. Chair Rhodess.

I. Vote is unanimous. The motion carries. Okay. Now I will entertain a motion for item number 8 FY25-29-ZC. [Music] And I'm good going. Okay. Motion I'm making. I make a motion to approve item FY-25-29-C as presented with the one change being uh approving a cup greater than 75%. Is that right? Yeah, that is. We have a motion for greater than 75 as Mr. Keela has requested. Do I have a second? Second.

All right, Mr. AG is a second. So, can we call for a vote? Commissioner Morales. Hi, Commissioner Walker. Hi, Commissioner Jerasic. Hi, Commissioner Lino. Hi, Commissioner AG. Hi, Carney. Commissioner Carney. Hi. You got your name right. Chair Crossy. Hi, Chair Rhodess. I All right, I think we're good. Vote is unanimous and the motion carries.

Thank you. All right, next we'll move on to item number 6FY-25-36 PLT. Consider and take action on the final plat of Wildflower Trails phase 1, a 41.857 857 acre, 138 lot, 8 block, threetrack residential subdivision situated in the Nancy Chance survey, abstract number five, city of Temple, Bell County, Texas, identified as a tax appraisal parcel as ID 53184 and address as 990 South K. Case will be presented by Mr. Jason Deckman.

John, could you bring up the presentation, please? All right. Thank you.

All right. So, we'll get right into the the overview and location. Um, you can see on the lower left the map showing I35 to the south, loop 363 to the east, you know, and the rest of the residential areas in West Temple, uh, surrounding this. on the Google Earth oblique view. Great tool let you tilt the screen and and pivot the view around. Uh so this gets you a better example of uh or a better sense of the crop land that's there now, the undeveloped land and the golf course pretty much directly across the street. And you then see the the highway on the other side of Wildflower uh Adams or FM2305 to the north. You can see some of the existing commercial, the new apartment complexes and some of the other residential areas. And then you can see where the dark area, the foliage where Pepper Creek runs right down diagonally through this area. So this is 41 acres, 138 lots. There's it's 137 residential lots, one non-residential, and that non-residential is out at the corner of the new Thoroughare that's coming across. So, this was the 2024 PD ordinance, what Brian referred to, we call it the Trojan Tract. Uh, they since renamed when it came through as the preliminary plant to call it Wildflower Trails. That PD required the developer to construct two collectors. So, the one that runs north south and as you note on the the plat there and north is to your right generally. Uh the north south collector is terror drive and then the east west is moons of Jupiter trail and that was I know that came out of discussions with our GIS department about extending the Jupiter name. If you recall from that project there is an

emergency gate between this development and the existing Jupiter road or Jupiter drive but it's not going to be open for traffic. Jupiter's not built to handle that amount of traffic. So, there's a gate there that'll be able to be opened by first responders in case they need to get in or people in this neighborhood need to depart. So, since that street isn't going to continue, we determined that the name shouldn't continue. So, they kept it somewhat similar and came up with Moons of Jupiter Trail. So, that is an approved name that fits within the 911 addressing system. Um the moons of Jupiter Trail does provide the boundary between this phase, phase one and phase two. So there will be some additional streets that intersect that street coming through. That phase two will contain the part that has the emergency gate. So that section isn't in this phase. Uh they are adding trails and open space with this phase. And you see on the lower right hand corner that green highlighted area that's most of that's flood plane. Uh it was also highlighted in the PD that that was going to be open space. There's a little bit more that would come with phase 2, but there are some trails that will be constructed with this phase. Uh PNZ is the final approval authority. They're not requested and and no exceptions have been identified. And this phase does very closely match the preliminary plat. We had to fine-tune some lot sizes just to make sure they're compliant with the base zoning. So, this is the Thoroughare plan slide that shows uh on the left is their sidewalk and trail and street light exhibits. It's pretty easy to see that red squiggly line is that trail through the green space. Uh and then you can see on the site plan it was a a bright green dashed line or the trail. So you can see where there's some trails in this phase

in the future phase and how those collectors crisscross the property. Um a little bit harder to see on that, but it's in your packet are the sidewalks to be constructed both by the developer and by the builders. Um that's an exhibit. You you may start seeing more of those. It's a practice that we're putting into use to show which sidewalks are going to be built by the developer when they lay in the initial streets and other sidewalks that'll follow later when the homes are built. It doesn't make sense to build a sidewalk to a lot with nothing on it and then have the builder come in with skid skeers, dump trucks, concrete trucks, and tear up that sidewalk only to have to rebuild it. So this clarifies those are the sidewalks that'll come later as each de as each builder constructs their piece along their blocks. Those sidewalks will be built out incrementally. So we do have some site photos. Um on that upper left, that's that existing duplex neighborhood where Moons of Jupiter Trail is going to punch out right around that area where that bridge or where that little driveway apron is. Right now, I don't I didn't get out there and measure it. I think it's going to be a little bit off to the side, but it's in that area. Uh, and of course, upper right hand corner, we're looking down at Chair Road's favorite roadway CIP project. Uh, due to be open about a month and a half, two months, pretty close

next year. And then, of course, on the bottom two images, you see the golf course, country club across Kegley Road. Uh here's some views of the flood plane and the creek. Um this is from Blueest Star Boulevard that runs into that duplex and got a view of the the crop land that's there now. But that'll be a good portion of this phase will be out in that that plowed area that you see. And then there's the beginning of the work zone facing south on Kegley. Now those top pictures was that the Pepper Creek green area. Is that what we were looking at? Yes, sir. Okay.

Yeah, it comes down. I'll go back to you can see where there's um a couple creek channels and then it all kind of merges. But when you get out there there's it's it's braided to use a geography term. So I mean to be honest it should be a nice interesting trail because there can be some you can get out in the bushes do some exploring. Yeah, that's gonna happen. Find find some ticks. Hopefully don't find the poison ivy. I've shot several of them. So hang you said that they have a plan to connect that trail possibly to to Pepper Creek out off

and that's Yes, sir. That's the intent that was part of the discussion. Uh the same engineer we work with for the villages on Pepper Creek for example and that uh the apartment complex there's a trail easement just south of Adams. Uh there's been a couple other projects that have come through and each one we've made sure that there's an easement, an alignment, a facility where that trail can eventually connect to the south. So that is that is top of our mind. So Jason, I need to ask a couple of questions. First, does this in this thare or this um approval include Hogan anything doing with Hogan Road right now? No, sir.

Okay. Because I own the property that Hogan Road would go on. Yes. Yeah. I wish. Um, so that's first question. Um, second question, am I able to vote on this? Is or is this too close, Mr. Attorney? Good question. I own two two lots, two properties on there on that this road. Uh, it's more of a ministerial thing, so it probably doesn't affect you. So, I think you'd have an issue uh if it was a zoning case, but since it's a plat and their ministerial, I don't see quite the same issue.

Okay. And last question, is there one road coming onto Kegley or two roads that would be built ultimately eventually be three with Hogan? Correct. So, with this phase is just the one that pretty much runs down the center of that image. Um, and you see that white next to the duplexes or near the duplexes. Yep.

Yeah. And that that white section, that's that part it at that point next down from being a collector back to a local street. That's where that emergency gate would be. So long-term preliminary plat zoning site plan. There will be these two collectors onto Kegley once that property to the south. And I remember we had some great discussions during the initial reasonzoning because there was two zonings. One got withdrawn and then they scoped it down. You know,

there's a lot of people here for that people. Yeah. Um you and Mr. Martin there there was a lot of discussion about Hogan. We've looked at Hogan and whether it should have been moved, what's it going to eventually connect to? Can you get across south of Wildflower out to the loop? Since those properties haven't come in as development, we don't have enough justification to move Hogan right now. With these ones, we've got something on paper that's been approved both zoning and a preliminary and about to be the first final plat. This will be one of the last ones where and I've got thoroughfare plan amendment package started for this one and another plat that was recently approved. This would be one of the few uh where we do the older way where we have the zoning and then we bring forward the thoroughare. So you'll see this again uh in the next month or so because we're we're bringing forward some another thoroughare plan amendments to match this since the the final plat is in. But at this point we don't have a plan or don't have I say enough confidence that there's reason to shift that Hogan road alignment. So, we'll keep it on there as a conceptual alignment for the time being. If if properties come in from the south, we'll we'll we'll talk about it. We'll we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Was this maelled out to anybody in that area or No, not for the plat. No, sir. No, the plat. Okay. My question about the gate, when do we know when that would be installed? When phase two gets built. Okay. Yeah. My only thing is my worry about say Kegley doesn't open up in two months and they start moving dirt. All those trucks coming off 35 are going to go down Old Waco and down Jupiter into this development. Yeah. How can we stop them from destroying that road by doing that with trucks full of dirt? So the answer, my first answer, you got me on the spot. Get that Gabe. Get that. No, that's it's a perfectly valid question. Um the road won't be done in two months,

right? um you know get that gate in first since the road doesn't connect the map you know Google maps and stuff is not going to route people that direction um because there's there's no road for them to connect they'll come down kegley to get in there somehow that's fine that's that's the only thing I want to avoid happening especially I saw the city just redid the entrances to the all those roads off old Waco so it's nice and fresh just really hate for that to just get completely destroyed right when they start moving directly.

And I want to say right now the end uh there there should be a sign. It may have been moved because of construction. Uh there should be a sign. Marking Jupiter is a dead end road because it doesn't have an outlet. Um not a way to get through there. They don't care. I know that. Not that knuckleheads won't do knucklehead things. So the my last response is my promise to you. I'll pass that concern off to the engineer and the developer to say look just tell your contractors. I mean not much we can do. I just if we can Yeah, absolutely. How many lots are on this?

So on the preliminary there's 300. There's 137 on this phase which with the one uh improved entrance is compliant. I I think maybe I might have skipped over that. Yeah, that was my next question was is it compliant? And and on second to that question is if they go into phase two and still only have one road in, do they stay in compliance? No, they have to get that second entrance out from wh which is the first the tangle head the one next to the uh duplexes. Here I'll tangle head is the second one. This will be the first one. first angle had to be the second.

So they will have to put that in before they go into phase two. Correct. It it would have to get platted with phase two. Yeah. So they would have to dedicate that right away, construct that street. And um Derek Marshall when he was one of the commissioners when it went through the resoning, there's a condition that says that you know all the lots had to have access to both. So you're not just saying, "Oh yeah, we've got a we've got two entrances, but you can't get there from here." which is why you got this secondary collector running north so that the traffic has options and they're not getting bottlenecked. And do they own that property there? Yes. They originally

Yeah, they originally, this was part of the first zoning package. Uh they had proposed this area and this area as future town houses to have a little bit more density. Um that got pulled out. It was it was a bigger plan development. There was a lot on with it and folks got sticker shock. Yeah, it was a little bit too much to digest. As long as they own it, that's all I care about.

Okay. Um, boy, that's hard to read this one, but I'm good. Um, let's see. Uh, commissioners, any other questions or comments? If there are no more questions or comments, I will entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve item as presented. Sorry. Second. Um, all right. We have a first by Commissioner Walk. Uh, Commissioner Carnegie and a second by Commissioner Walker. Can we call for a vote? Commissioner Morales. I.

Commissioner Walker. I. Commissioner Carney. Hi Commissioner Ljino. Hi Commissioner AG. Hi. Commissioner Kray. Hi. Vice Chair Jerusk. Hi. Chair Rhodess. No, cuz I live there. So, it's good. Uh, the vote is seven eyes, one nay. The motion carries.

Anyway, anybody want buying property? I've got it. Next one is item number six um FY25-41-PLT. Consider and take action on the final plat of Einoff addition a 0.251 251 acre four lot one block residential subdivision being a replat of the south one half of lot two of the north one half of lot three of the Crest View edition situated in the Maximo Mareno survey at abstract 14 city of Temple Bell County Texas address 709 and 711 South 28th Street this case will be presented by planner Dan and I can't say your last name.

Shai. Shiai. There we go. I'll get better. Thanks.

All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, so this plat right here, it's two lots. The developer wants to convert it from two lots to four lots to build uh single family attached homes. Uh the currently the property is 0.251 251 acres uh with two two lots residential subdivision and this is where they plan on converting uh these two lots 709 and 7-Eleven into four lots. Each lot is equally divided roughly about 26 by 104 ft. So it meets the code standards. Uh the owner and developer agreed to pay the park fees per 225 per dwelling unit. So that's times four. It's not in a flood zone and it's in a two family 2F uh zoning. So the the single family attached does meet the criteria of that zoning and it's currently located in the neighborhood planning district of Crest View. This as you can see in the top right corner, it's smack dab in the middle of the loop uh in the city on South 28th Street. Now in this area there's multiple zonings across across the area from a SF2 uh general retail but as you could see some of the general retail also has housing development located in it in it but this is a two family dwelling uh respectfully this property and it meets the intent and characters of uh the command plan 20 not comprehensive plan 2020 and the future land use plan uh for urban residential. Now, this is the plat. As you can see, as you zoom in to the top right, those are the two lots 709 7-Eleven. Uh, and we move to the the left is the final plat. As you can see, the they're pretty narrow, but they meet the code at 26 ft. It's 25 ft. So, they meet about one foot

over uh and then length is 100 ft and they meet about 104 feet uh to meet those single family attached homes. the topography, no issues uh regarding it given the fact that it's not in a flooded zone. U and it's they have two collector streets, neighborhood collectors to the east and the west. water and sewer six inch lines. No issues with capacity with building the or replatting to four lots and putting those dwellings in there, single family attached. So, it won't be a capacity issue. And as you can see, uh E Avenue is a major arterial with neighborhood collectors to the east of west of 28th Street. Adding those four four dwellings would not increase capacity of traffic down there uh to to a level of congestion uh that makes it undrivable. Staff recommends approval of 709 711 South 28th Street final platin loft edition uh for meeting UDC subdivisional standards. Penny, any questions?

Thank you. Commissioners, any questions or comments regarding this? Yeah. Are they is it two separate duplexes or is it a quadlex that they're intending? Two separate duplexes at this time. Okay. Drive driveways in the front. Correct. And Brian, does this follow in where love since she left where you build? Is there anything we could suggest to them or No, we've suggested to these these particular building or builders a number of times. They're doing a lot. So they're very aware and they got their own plans. So it's suggest yes require we're not at that point yet. So well

and it wouldn't even fall in this area even even when the overlay is approved we still wouldn't require them to use our plans. We would just have additional standards tied to it. Got it. Thank you. Who's the applicant? I Mr. I can legacy and why are they needing to divide this into four lots if it's zone two family they can build a duplex on a single lot? Why why the need to bust this into four?

I think it's I think it's due to the fact that we there's a minimum lot width for single family attached of 25 ft. So do the math. That's 50 for each of those. You have a duplex. It's a minimum width of 60. Okay. 10 more feet. Does that completely make sense? No. Adding a line down the middle. No, but that's just the way it is. Circumventing to sell them as separate units as well, right? Yeah. Separate units. Yeah.

So in theory, it could increase home ownership but I don't know their plans you know course that's only if they not right there I won't that was going to be my question can we is it hut or lowinccome housing do we know does it matter no it's it's not I mean it's market rate okay and this is just a plat but if I mean at the planning stages would you require them to put like if they wanted to make them four individual units to sell would you make them put We can't I mean we don't get into that kind of renter versus homeowner you know owner occupied

I couldn't remember. Okay. I mean could we if it was but it's already zoned. Gotcha. So could we perhaps would we? Probably not. Okay. All right. With that said, any more questions or comments? So, just to be clear, this this is just making it allowable to put a duplex on two lots because we couldn't on just one. That's correct. That's great. Okay. If there are no more questions or comments, I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a motion to approve FY25-41-PT.

Okay. I have a motion by Commissioner Morales and a uh second by Commissioner Carney. Can we call for a vote? Commissioner Morales. Hi. Commissioner Walker. Hi. Commissioner Carney. Hi. Commissioner Longo. Nay. Commissioner Ag. I. Vice Chair Jerasic. I. Chair Rhodess. I. The vote is six eyes. Oh, chair Kray or former commissioner Kraussy. Nay. Vote is six eyes, two nays. The motion carries.

That's right. Thank you. Is there any further business for tonight, Mr. Deckman? Agenda item just a public service announcement that there was a fatality on I35 southbound near Midway. Yep. So, I think the road is still locked. A person was attempting to cross the highway on foot. So, here's your traffic safety public service announcement. Be careful out there, y'all. All right. I'm not done either. Okay. So, Mr. Chandler.

All right. Espec Especially since we have a new commissioner. We're we're training him. Part of it is to remind those of you that voted no that if it's a subdivision plat, really the only reason you should be voting no is if you disagree that we are bringing something forward that you think doesn't meet code. We're bringing it forward saying it meets code. I get it. And so if you say no, yeah, you you should reference what what code item we have missed. This is a plat. This is not zoning. Sorry. You don't have to like it. Yeah. In fact, yeah, that doesn't matter. But you're you're obligated to approve it if it meets code. So, can we change?

No, just next time. Is there a violation of code in trying to circumvent the rules by No, I mean, and Brian, you know on Kegley why I was doing mine, but I mean at the end of the day, I get it. Understood. So, it's not a problem today. Six to two. Mhm. If it were disappoint, you're talking about the second one or both. This one we just the most recent. Okay. Yeah. Got it. It's not not a problem today, but if it had been disapproved, that would be a problem. Understood. Got anyone. And Kegley, I just opened my mouth. So there you All right. We are adjourned. Thank you. At 653.

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