Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, June 17, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Temple, GA
Meeting Date
June 17, 2025

Transcript

23 sections

0:13 – 2:13Speaker 1

come down. Yes, sir. I show 6 pm. So, we'll go ahead and call to order the June July June 17, 2025 meeting of the Temple Planning Commission. We'll start with a call to order and then the roll call. Gary Thomas, Ward One is present. Ward two, Greg Doster, present. Ward three, Troy Curtis, present. Ward four, Calvin Waters, present. Ward five, Karen Powell, present. At large, Taran Bibbons present. I'll go ahead and open us with an invitation. Let us pray. Our most gracious and loving heavenly father, we thank you for this day, dear God. Thank you for this opportunity to come together in service to you. We lift up our city to you, dear God. We ask special blessing upon our city employees and their families. We ask that you would be with our meeting tonight. Guide our conversations, dear God. Guide us in the direction you'd have us go. uh give us protection as we leave this place tonight as we travel. All these things we ask in your son's precious and holy name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Moving on to item number three, approve the minutes of the May 20th, 2025 Temple Planning Commission meeting. Uh those minutes were sent to you by email and also included in your packets. I'll give you a minute to look over those and then I'll entertain a motion. [Applause] I'll make a motion. We have a motion by Mr. Curtis to approve the minutes as printed. Is there a second? I'll second. We have a second by Mr. Waters. Any discussion? All in favor of approval say I. I. Opposed like signed. The minutes are

2:10 – 4:10Speaker 1

approved as printed. Item number four, status report on council action taken from the May 20th, 2025 Temple Planning Commission meeting. Danger. Um, we got a request by Lee Shirley for parcel splits and our paperwork wasn't 100% the way we wanted it to look. Um, so it was easily understandable. So it was for a parcel join of parcel T30080193 and T30080194 on Ivy Lake Parkway. is a property owner who wants to join the parcels in order to uh to build an office and that was approved for zero. Um and the sec I mean the third one I'm sorry was a final flat approval for the enclave at Aelia Hills phase two and that was approved four to zero. The council final vote on June the second was also approved four to zero. Item number five, a request by Lee Shirley for a partial split of parcel T04 007006 and T04 Z district 6. The future use of this property is general commercial, which is the way it is currently zoned. Any comments from staff? Yes, if you'll look at your set of plans, um that the last page is still not completed the way we need it. But second from the last page explains a little better and makes it a little easier for us to understand. Sorry, you good. Okay. So, you see the purple lines? Uh, so what's going to happen is this large back parcel will be connected with that so that they would have road frontage. This purple line will be removed. So, this track two and this will be track one. The only reason that all of this is

4:06 – 6:03Speaker 1

happening is so that in the future um if at any this was the previous parcel for this that will have enough road furniture for a driveway and that is just going slightly smaller so she can make driveways. Okay, I got it. I got so what we're going to do is I'm going to have them reprint tomorrow correctly what that second to the last page is and I'll take them to Any questions for staff? Hearing none, we'll move on to item number six, hold a public hearing on the request for a partial split by Lee Shirley. Is there anyone here to speak in support of this application? Miss Shirley, do you have any comments other than what staff has presented? Okay. Any questions for the applicant? Anyone else here to speak in favor of this application? Anyone here to speak in opposition of this application? Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Move on to item number seven. Consider taking action on the request by Lee Shirley. Planning Commission. Do you have a motion? Let it go to council for approval. Uh this one is just with us partial split. So it would be for approval. And Mr. Doster, is that approval based on correcting the plat? Okay. I have a motion by Mr. Doster to uh approve uh as will be amended to correct to meet the plat that Dedra showed you. Is there a second? I second. We have a second by Miss Bivvens. Any discussion?

6:01 – 7:56Speaker 1

All in favor say I. I. Oppose. Like sign. Motion carries. Will be approved. Uh when you get those printed, these will get them and all we need to do is for me to sign them. The partial split doesn't go to the council for approval. Thank you very much. All right. Moving on to item number eight. Request by Billy Jack Bale with ISG Incorporated for reszoning of partial T02 0062019 on Highway 78 West, landlock 179 district 6. The current zoning classification for this property is R1 single family detached residential. The request is for light industrial. The future land use map states the property has R1 a little bit larger. All right, planning commission. Any initial questions from staff? Okay. Uh, you have a copy of a draft development agreement that was at your place when you got I'm going to give you just a few minutes to look over that if you hadn't had a chance to do so so far. Uh generally uh we require a definite plan of what'll be constructed and uh at the applicant is wanting to purchase the property based on a contingency that he would build to sue based on whoever would then purchase that property. And this development agreement addresses that and provides some protection for the city uh just for your consideration. uh if you want to look over that and then we'll have uh we'll have the public hearing portion

8:08 – 10:08Speaker 1

commercials I can't do it on my phone. I have to do it on my desk. Dedra are drafted by the city attorney. part of it. Yes. When will this be signed? When we approve it or is it an open thing or it's kind of still in you guys will discuss it and the council will discuss it like that's what we want to prohibit and that sort of thing. How is this going to affect the moratorum that we have in place right now? Mortorium residential. So you can't uh essentially essentially most of the time when we look at a reasonzoning, we look at a resoning based on a plan for whatever is going to be built there. I'm going to build a subdivision. I'm going to build a Dollar General. do a contingency to purchase a piece of property and then build a building to suit what that particular business wants, but he doesn't know what that business is yet. And so in those cases, you do just a recommendation. We're not the final approval. Planning commission just recommends to the city council and the city council would be the final say in the development agreement as well. The city attorney has drafted an

10:05 – 12:05Speaker 1

agreement and put some things in the draft agreement that would not be built there as a draft. That would be a final decision by the city council. Uh so that's what that that's what that agreement is. Do you know when that would take because this is my backyard. That would be effective when the city council approves it and that's based on the in a minute. Okay. In a minute everybody will have an op option to do so. Any other questions from the planning commission? Okay, we're going to go ahead and move to item number nine. Hold a public hearing on a request for reszoning by Billy Jack Bale. Any comments from the applicant? Any comments from the applicant? Yes, this group. I appreciate the opportunity to present to everyone tonight and to discuss what the plan here is. Uh I brought some pictures. Um you're absolutely right. We do not have a tenant in tow at this time. Uh we specialize in building out industrial light light industrial parks, not heavy industrial parks, not smoke stack, not giant manufacturing facilities. We do not. This is my name that's on these projects. I take my business very personally. I've been told business is not personal, but I think it is. Mr. Bell, can you take the microphone? Yes. Thank you. And it is, as you can see, this is with topo. This is the property. There are creeks that separate the property into really two distinct different properties. Uh, often times developers will come in and they will determine that, boy, this would be really efficient if I could get rid of all these creeks. I have no interest in getting rid of the go that would be created whether it's a neighborhood or

12:01 – 13:59Speaker 1

whether it's a light industrial park. Um what I found very appealing about this site itself is the fact that too allows for everything to flow towards the creek. That means any doors, any dock doors will all be oriented towards the creek. So away from the neighborhoods and away from the roads so that there will be very very minimal impact. Uh we are required to have a 100 foot setback. We'll go to 8 ft. We will work with Dedra and her staff to make certain that we are handling the landscaping in a way in a manner that would be more than adequate that would help both protect you guys and us. Um so this is the topo. This is the property. It's 80 acres. We do not have a site plan. Typically, when the market's redot, like y'all have seen in the past, where people are putting buildings up left and right. Interest rates are in check. Companies are feeling very confident. The economy is booming and you can invest and build a building and the tenants will come. They still will come. We're just not at a point yet. Temple is not in the middle of the industrial trend as it's now taking place. However, build the suits are already here. Southwire just did a build a suit. McKessan did a build a suit. Um, Hitachi Honda out in Talapusa just did a build a suit on Liberty Road as well. We would have loved to have put them here in this park. Those buildings are incredibly nice. They're tiltup construction. They're in Fortune 500 industry companies, top-of-the-line companies. Uh the park will be an elevation of what is currently here. Uh it will be somewhat similar to the Temple Industrial Park that is on East Luke Road now in that those buildings

13:57 – 15:55Speaker 1

were built as the employees to Temple, Georgia, pay taxes in Temple, Georgia and participate in the community. Um the impact to the community to Temple Georgia will be very very minimal. Um, we love the fact that it's off of Interstate I20, federal highway. It's off of Highway 113, state highway. State maintains it, not Temple. That means that you guys will not be footing the bill for any improvements that need to take place. US Highway 78, same deal. We are also going to put all the internal roads inside the park will be private. We will maintain those. We will have CCRs, codes, covenants, and restrictions making sure that the tenants are doing what they need to do and that they are good citizens and stewards of the park because putting one tenant here, if it affects my ability to put other tenants in this park, then I've really done a bad deal and that is not what I'm in business to do. Uh I So I think you will find that I'm easy to get in touch with. Um and that I'm not going to be somebody that's going to be disappearing. I'm way way too heavily invested in the community um and want to see things turn out really well here. I want to show youall a couple projects that we have done just to give you a flavor of what we plan on doing um inside this park. Let me know if I'm running over on time here. This is a project in Brazleton, Georgia that we've done. You can see the landscaping here. The type of construction we have at our working in the warehouse. We will also have um very highpaying jobs who will

15:52 – 17:50Speaker 1

also be administrative um as well as operating regional companies and their offices inside these buildings. Here's one in Carterville. This is Commerce Park. This is off Cass White Road. This is a very good example of what we'll be doing. This is a building in Newton, Georgia off Shannondoa. Y'all may be familiar with this park. This is very, very nice. This was a spec project. It's multi-tenants. We've got about six tenants in these buildings. They're designed to hold multiple tenants. So, if it's a 100,000 ft² building, we'll normally have two or three tenants inside that building, which gives us a large range of being able to accommodate a lot of different good quality users. I don't know why I keep coming over here getting the boards. I can bring them all at work. This is 120 acres. You can see there's three different buildings on here. A wide range of different options and offerings, all different sizes, able to accommodate different users. This is a site plan of that non project. You can see all the office area and car parking here. Very well landscaped. We

17:47 – 19:44Speaker 1

have four tenants in this project. We just completed leasing the last space about 6 months ago. This is a sampling of what the interiors of these buildings look to have. Uh this will be something that temple will be incredibly proud of. Uh it's something that I'm incredibly proud of, something I take great pride in, and I'll enjoy watching these things get built, seeing the tenants move in, and having them last for a long, long time. We build the offices out to accommodate exactly what they need on the interior. This is a picture of that Locust Grove project I just showed you that had the site plan on there. Again, these are very expensive buildings at buildout. We anticipate this project being worth somewhere between 200 and450 million out of retail projects. And then the last one I'll bore you with here. This is in Jackson County up on Dry Pond Road. It's another project. We've got three building project. Most of these were built speculative to create a very nice park to be able to attract great industries. And then they're going to come to us and say, "Here's what I need. I want to be in Temple, Georgia, but I need a 50,000t building and I need a design like this." And so we will take these rules and regulations, y'all's ordinances, work with Dedra and her staff to create and

19:41 – 21:40Speaker 1

build buildings that look like this with landscaping like this. Um, but will suit and that's who is here uh is local. Um, we like to work with local people whenever we can. We think that helps. It helps keep the community. It helps keep the money in the community. It also helps staffs throughout the course of this project and will be the engineer of record. Um, and I'm here to answer any questions anybody has unless there's going to protect me because there people over there has got legs and we got horses. Greg, can you use your microphone, please? How on the protection of those creeks down there? Uh, how are y'all going to protect? Well, we are in the process now of doing a jurisdictional wetlands delineation which will define those creeks and what type of creeks they are. Uh we will not go through the Army Corps and do what's called an individual permit. Individual permit allows you to take out more than 300 ft of stray 75 ft off of those creeks per the code. Um and we have no interest in messing with those. Those are amenities to us. I think those are huge. Residential developers would like to have those. Typically, industrial developers, more and more of them are starting to realize that it's harder and harder to get labor to show up every day. And so, you better have some real serious amenities. And getting rid of the streams, doing anything that would disrupt anybody downstream, uh, is not what we're wanting to do. We will put silt fences in when we've washed down to those lakes, which are just here on Lake Shore. So, we I'm very aware of that. I've got several pieces of properties with lakes on them and uh there's nothing worse than when somebody upstream decides that they're going to go do something that affects you downstream.

21:39 – 23:38Speaker 1

So, I've been there. I'm sensitive to it. Thank you. Any other questions from the planning commission? I do, but I'm not quite sure which way I need to ask them because I'm an environmentalist. I know where this property is exactly. I can relate with the young lady sitting over there. And can you hold your microphone up, Karen? And a lot of people that really should be here. Chunk of uh the north side of Temple. I live on that side. I know about those creeks when I run through my backyard and also run through uh the whale that I have on my property. So you you really coming in you coming in deep. Uh like Karen, can you hold your mic to your lips, please? I like you. Thank you. I do want to hear it. It is on. Okay. I like your pictures. I like your presentation, but uh I'm a home girl. I'm very protective of Temple. Um this is a very another big chunk of Temple that's about to be. But what we need and what I will always fight for is to have the quality of life in Temple to remain as natural and beautiful and untouched and safe and secure as it always have been since I was a little girl as well as my grandparents. Uh this is a big undertaking, you know, 100,000 square foot a few issues. So, let me ask you guys, is Temple going to be supplying water for this? We've discussed that. Okay. Temple Temple is uh Temple is dealing with a few issues now with all the residential and commercial. We got a lot of commercial coming in. They hadn't even started it down here on uh Billing Road and u several other things that's going on around here. Just a lot going on. So, we we have a lot of things to I'm talking to the council really to the committee

23:37 – 25:37Speaker 1

here. We got a lot of things we need to look at to protect Temple, to protect the citizens of Temple. Uh we got water issues. We got traffic issues. This is coming right out on 78 highway highway right down um below Lake View Drive. Uh we we got issues that we dealing with now. And like I say, I'm not a negative person on progress, but uh I am pro quality. uh this is going to do a lot to Houston and I think and uh I hope we can do something to uh really get more people in here more more individuals if we have to do some doortodoor we need to get some more temp I'll get back to it but I will have some more questions and comments later thank you any other questions from the planning commission uh yes I just want to make sure I mean I understand you're building that building and this huge building and you know it's really pretty but I'm not caring we got to kind of told you like data centers, you know, they're quiet, not a lot of things there, but yeah, we don't have that water supply. Understood. And and part of this is I am aware that we have a water issue and we have sewer issues and we've got them all over Atlanta, Georgia. Um, so it's not as if when we get zoning, the good news is I don't have a site plan. If I have a site plan, that meant I've priced things. I've gone ahead and I've gotten the building. We're looking at a land disturbance permit. We're not looking at any of those items now. So, we're literally putting ourselves in a position when the time is right, when the water's there, when the sewer is there, when the economy's there to be able to capitalize on an opportunity that's sitting here now. Um, that to me feels like it should be light industrial. It is off of state highways. Unfortunately, there are some neighbors that are adjacent here, and I'm very sensitive to that. And so, we will do

25:34 – 27:31Speaker 1

everything we can to make certain that our use and that the tenants and that our setbacks and everything is done in a fashion that would, if I live there, would work for me, too. Um, if it's residential, you're going to have a lot more water and sewer than you are on industrial. I have no interest in doing a data center. the site could not support a data center. Um, so that's good news. The power lines going through there will not support a data center. I have no interest in doing data centers. What you see, that's my business. That's what I've been in for 30 years is light industrial. Um, you know, the creek, that's a great great question. It's a great issue. Um, you know, we have 500 year storms. I'm sure there's probably still getting in there now because people sometimes are still doing things are taking down trees or people are out there in their tractors doing work. You can't create a perfect pristine environment. But on this site when the work's taking place, so you can absolutely be assured that if there's a problem, I'll be there to address it. And there will be issues. There are going to be issues. This is construction. This is not a fantasy land where everything's going to be perfect. If somebody comes in here and tells you that nothing's going to ever happen here, that's not going to at some point affect somebody, they're not telling you the truth. The reality is you want somebody that knows that that's going to happen and is willing to and able to deal with it and can talk to people and you can call me up on the cell phone and let me know if there's an issue. That is not a problem. I appreciate knowing what my neighbors are thinking so I can address those issues. Um, but yeah, to answer your water and sewer questions, that is an issue. And and maybe when we have this zoned, maybe we can get Brian Dal and everybody get excited about how we come up with a plan to get more water and sewer so he

27:29 – 29:27Speaker 1

can chase industries as well. Uh, there are very, very, very few sites in West Georgia that can accommodate this type of light industrial uh, parks back there. not near the impact that the homes are going to be, not the impact on the schools. It's positive tax dollars. We will be paying our own services when it comes to trash. So, we're not going to have trash dumps coming through here picking up, you know, each individual trash can for each individual house. Private roads, again, emphasize that we'll be maintaining those. So, um, I welcome any questions you all have. Any other questions from the planning commission? I I had one. Okay. On a on a track this size, what's your average square footage for a building? Great question. It varies greatly. This is a highly inefficient site. Not only do you have huge setbacks from the residential, those creeks take up maybe 10 to 12 acres of the property easily. So on something like this, your ratio, you would want it to be 30% coverage ratio. On something like this, you're going to probably be 15 to 20% coverage ratio depending on how we lay it out. Okay. The the reason I'm asking is the bigger the building, the more cars, the more traffic. Just like Miss Powels and Miss Bibs were talking about, my big concern is we love US78, but we have just a regular traffic stoplight at uh center off of that uh in the afternoons with folks trying to get back down 78 towards Breamman and with adding more to that even if it is three years. My concern is have you done anything to possibly get with G dot to say hey this is what we might and the 78 intersection in the

29:25 – 31:23Speaker 1

afternoons you could backed up all the way to Engles and then we're adding more stuff coming in and out of there there's just there's so many new residents adding jobs is a great thing but at the same time what are the cons versus the pros to that so good question we have not had conversations with the department of transportation on this particular project yet to do traffic studies. My hope is that and this normally happens when the Department of Transportation gets involved and they see a something that has some scale to it. They start responding by saying, "Mr. Developer, we would love for you to do this. Mr. Developer, we would love for you to do that." Those items will not take place in a void. So, if nobody's doing anything that creates additional traffic counts and came from Atlanta, it's a pain everywhere. It's something that we all have to deal with. Um, so hopefully you're working with people who will be good stewards of that and who have good contacts with the Department of Transportation. John Bass is here in the room for a reason. He's going to help sensitive to that. And I got a feeling once we start talking to Department of Transportation, they're going to have some ideas that are going to create some of those opportunities as far as fixing some of those issues that you brought up. I agree with you. Okay. Yes. Um my question was, what is your typical length of a lease on a building of this size? Our typical lease is 5 years to 10 years. You and I had spoken in the past about rear traffic in the buildings of to the property that the residential property that backs up to that property. Um, and we had discussed where traffic would be in and out. There wouldn't be any rear traffic on the Good point. And that again is part of what was to me compelling is if the topo was such that this property was crowned. In other words, if at the dead center middle of

31:21 – 33:18Speaker 1

it was the high point, the dock doors would want to lay on the edges of the property. So right, well here's your building. It sits flat. The truck court sits down 4 feet. So it cost a fortune to grade against the grain of the topography. So the topography is such that all of the action all take a look at it right there. So the high points are on those corners. Good point. Yes. Is that it? Yes. I have one more question please. Okay. Uh all those creeks you're talking about are those creeks still considered part of Carol County wershed? Yes, I'm sure they are. Okay. Any other questions from the planning commission? Okay. Anyone else here to speak in favor of this application? Anyone to speak in opposition or any other questions from the public? Okay. If you don't Yeah. Just a minute. Yes, sir. Okay. on the fence, you know, right? Use the microphone the houses are. Yes, sir. People are concerned. Use the mic, please. Mr. Bale, give him the microphone. How far you going to run the fence all the way down the property? That's what I'm getting at right here. See, where is your property? It start all of this right here. Plus, you already answered that one about the creek. I was real concerned about that. I understand. Yes, sir. Where that lake there and it already filling up with some stuff. But that's good. Okay. Yeah. But as far as in favor of it, I'm definitely in favor of it. Okay. I will run the the fence all the way down the entire linear. I wanted to talk to you to make sure some people do not want a fence in their backyard. Others do.

33:19 – 35:16Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Understood. Yes, sir. My name is Jimmy Row and I live at 135 Enterprise Drive. Um, I have a few things that I wrote down because I've been living here 40 years and where we live on Enterprise Drive, we look we got nothing behind us. It's a quiet neighborhood. Everything runs smoothly. I'm worried about I don't know what kind of business you're going to put in there. That's number one. It's like buying a pig and a pope to me. You can save whatever you want to, but once you get that sign uh contract signed, you do whatever you want. So that's a question mark in me. Um, how does this affect our property value? Being that close to a business, is it going to affect our property value? Is it going to go up or is it going to go down? Don't know. Traffic that's now the red light you're talking about, are they going to have to put a red light to go into your business? Don't know. So DOT is right. We need to contact them and find out what is the solution. If we do this, what what does the DOT require us to do? That's number one. The buffer zone. What's the buffer zone going to be on the residential side? 100 ft. 100 ft. Yes, sir. Okay. The water and sewer issue. I work for Villa Record. I retired from Villa Rea. I know all about the water and sewer as John can attest. Hey, John. Um anyway, that was a big issue with us. So we had to find ways from Douglas County, Carol County to get the water in. Then you got to get rid of the water. Do we have the capacity to do that? And they're saying it's not going to be that much effect. Well, we don't know what they putting in there in here. What about the jobs in Temple? In other words, don't we have people that need job in Temple?

35:14 – 37:14Speaker 1

So, you know, that's something else to look at. Um and what you're you know the the ones that you're showing us is look like office spaces correct? Yes. So um the traffic the 75 ft buffer on the creek. That sounds good. Door um to the front of the creek. You mentioned earlier that the doors are going to be facing the creek. Right. Correct. But then when you somebody asked Yeah. Yes. 78. All right. So, I guess my main thing is I'm all for growth. We got to have it. Got to have the money, revenue, if you want good streets, you want to build this, you want to build that. But let's do it responsibly and I know you're not the say so in the council is. So, you know, we'll go that route, but think about what we're doing and u maybe we'll make the right decision. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Row. And that's a good point. We are I would prefer that Janice or somebody come to us. We got nothing against Temple jobs. The goal is to grow industries and attract industries. Any other public comments or questions? That's right. They would and and I cannot answer the question about housing value. I the sole decision maker uh benevolent dictator maybe is a good way to put it. He only wants light industrial product in his community. I don't know if anybody's ever been to Buford. It's beautiful. I don't know if anybody has seen Buford High School. It looks like a college campus, which is exactly what we're focused on as well. Um there is something that's going to happen here. If I don't get the zoning, then you'll have somebody else who will probably show up here. They got a savvy attorney, and I'm sure there's a couple

37:12 – 39:10Speaker 1

of them around here. They'll say, "Well, you shot down light industrial. You must want it to go residential." So, it's something's going to happen here. It's finding the right steward and the right opportunity and the right match. Totally agree. Uh things are happening. Things are changing here. We're sensitive to that. That's what attracts us to Temple. Um, the same things that attract y'all to Temple are going to be the same things that attract companies to Temple. If that's an ugly park, they're not going to want to come. And I'm not into make bad that I do not like to make bad investments. So, this is an investment. This is my investment. This is my project. Um, like I said, I've got other property in Temple and around here. So, I think you'll find that uh I'm not going to just pack up and leave and go on down the road cuz down the road's a quarter mile that way, 2 miles that way, four miles that way, 8 miles that way. So, there's not too far to go. Yes, ma'am. It's a microphone. You're pretty good. Go ahead. No, you're good. Well, it can't be it can't be use the microphone because We're live streaming. We're live streaming. They can't hear you online. Well, hello Tiff. There you go. My question is you're talking about docks possibly. So that's trucks, correct? Okay. You're going to be 100 feet from my backyard with a wooden six-foot privacy fence. What are your hours those trucks are going to be running diesel coming in and out of those buildings? So do I know the answer to that question. So, it could be throughout the night. Probably not more than likely, but it is possible. Um, I can't say that work two shifts or three shifts. There's probably a lot of people in Temple that work

39:08 – 41:04Speaker 1

multiple shifts at multiple companies that have two and three shifts. I think Janice may run more than one or two shifts, a few others. Um, but most of these groups are just answer. And the doctors again not going to be 100 ft away from the fence. It will be facing inward. So you will have either car parking, office andor a wall, but the business side of the industrial trucks, the trucks will all be where the lower portion of the property. Okay. I just wanted to clarify about the noise level because most of us on our street I think I'm the youngest and I'm 53. Everybody else is a lot older. So and those are great questions. I don't want somebody that's making a bunch of noise that's going to next time another tenant shows up says I don't want to do business here. I don't want to come into this park. I don't want bad tenants in the park. It makes my job tougher. It also gives tenants who are adjacent to loud customers a reason to leave and not renew their lease or to break their lease. So I will I'll tour my street on our street is very very quiet. Understood. It is a dead end street. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? All right, we'll go ahead and close the public hearing and move to item number 10. Consider making a recommendation on the request by Billy Jack Bale. Planning Commission, do you have a motion? I'd like I'll make a motion to approve.

41:00 – 43:00Speaker 1

No. with this to reszone with a recommendation that everybody comes back so these people get a chance to see what's going to be built before. Okay. Use your microphone and give me your motion again. I make a recommendation to approve his recommendation to go light commercial industrial light industrial light industrial light industrial I'm sorry uh but I would like for my neighbors to have a chance to come back and review his plans of what he's going to put on this property before it happens and give them a voice. Okay. for clarification. Your motion is to recommend approval to the city council with a stipulation that he have to return to the planning commission and the city council with final plans for whatever business he's going to build for. Is that correct? Correct. There's a motion by Mr. Curtis. Is there a second? Excuse me. Yes. Can I make another recommendation? Not till I see if I get a second. Okay. Once I get a second. Is there a second? I have a second by Mr. Dostster. Now we'll have discussion. Yes, ma'am. I'd like to make a recommendation that we get all information that we need upfront so that there won't be any surprises to Temple the C or the citizens of Temple. To me, like the gentleman said, it's just a pig and the Pope. To me, it's just too much uncertainty, unseen. Um, it's just to me it's just too wide open. I just I would like to have more information upfront. Okay. Any further discussion on the motion? Okay. We have a motion for to recommend approval to the city council with the

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stipulation that once tenants are identified and construction is going to start that the applicant return and review that information with the planning commission and the city council. All in favor of the motion signify by raising your right hand and say I. I. All opposed. Okay. Motion fails. Any other action before the planning commission. So with the failure of the motion, it goes to the city council with no action. Uh no. Um, the city council will take the recommendation to deny it, but they will decide ultimately. Okay. I'm just making I'm just clarifying. We didn't have a motion to deny. We had a motion to approve that failed. So, it would be no action by the planning commission. Is that is that correct? I just just want to make sure before because the council can still make a decision moving forward with it. Yeah, the city council can still decide without a recommendation and that as it stands on there's no action. I think it's just denied. Uh it was denied. The approval was denied. Okay. All right. All right. Anything else to come before the planning commission tonight? Do I hear a motion to adjurnn? I have a motion by Mr. Doster, a second by Mr. Curtis. All in favor say I. I. We stand adjourned. Thank you very much. Thank y'all. He can bring us. So as long as the city they say no I mean goes to the city

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