Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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evening. I'd like to call the order of the infrastructure planning and sustainability committee meeting of 03/11/2026. Clerk, will

you please call the roll? Councilmember Diaz. Here. Councilmember Hines.

Is it his comment? Nope.

Absent. Vice chair St. Helge?

Here.

And chair Walker? Here. Alright.

Moving on to public comment. Clerk, will

you please ring? To request to speak during public comment for items on the agenda, please sign up to the front of the room if you have not done so already. If you are speaking virtually, please press the raise hand button near the bottom of

the Zoom window or star nine on

your phone. Your name or the last four digits of your phone number will be called out when it is your turn to speak.

We have a microphone. Yeah. Go ahead. We lost our microphone, so we're taking a short pause. Thank you.

Oh, wow. And then I just unplugged.

We wanna Okay. Anna, has anyone signed up to speak virtually

or in person? One in person, one online.

Alright. We will start in person. K. So when you are called, please state your name for the record. You have two minutes to make your remarks. Please be mindful of the time frame.

And now I'm calling.

So let's go sign up. K.

My name is Kit Burns. I'm here to speak just briefly on an issue or an item that I attempted to kinda speak about last night at the city council meeting. And, you know, on the agenda day, we're talking about expanding programs and projects, which is always good to see. The city has shortened funds. So I was disturbed or alarmed or perplexed by the city, basically, is allowed to sit in the University of Washington to do a project, a street vacation, and not pay anything for it.

That $2,900,000 would be great to have additional projects in the city. I think it's necessary. You know, I look at I don't see why they should get a free pass. I know it's nice to be a native, but as a citizen, I think they should pay something. I know the city has the option of saying, hey. You don't have to pay anything. We can split it, which the city has done in the past. I looked at the I listened to the October 14 presentation. And so I just wanna bring that up. I know you can't take any action on it.

They didn't take any action on it last night, but I wanna make council aware that I don't think we should be doing that, especially at the time when we're looking at the streets initiative. We're looking for additional funds for programs and transportation benefits in the streets. You know, does the city does the University of Washington have money? Well, they pay the coach, the football coach, $7,500,000. They can afford this, and it would help us. And especially with the list on today's agenda, there'd be a whole bunch more projects we can do. So, anyway,

I think council made

the

decision should reconsider that, especially in

the future. Thank you.

Great. Thank you, kid. Kathy, I will start the timer whenever you start speaking.

Hi. My name is Kathy Irwin. I wanted to speak today about the proposal for the South Tacoma Mall Street situation. They wanna change the loop road. And I'm kind of puzzled by the whole situation because, I'm really surprised by the description being provided for this project, as it does not seem to be based in reality of what has already occurred for construction there for housing, that there will be any space for any kind of infrastructure, any kind of route loop of roads that will link parks together.

We have no parks except for one in the far side. A significant tree canopy, open space, and habit habitat. None of this seems to be part of the plan already, and I'm not sure how this is gonna work when you have cars parked on all the streets and in the alleys because there is no parking in a lot of these apartments, buildings that have gone up. And I feel like there needs to be a revision of this plan because this is not an accurate portrayal of what can even occur in that area and maybe needs an update. People walking through the area.

There is also along that road that that is just north of the mall, the Steele Street, there is another huge apartment building gonna be constructed. So any open space you find in that area will likely be used for parking and will not be part of any green infrastructure. So I would request that people take another visit through that area, and please write up something that is actually gonna work for the area and not some dream project that is nice project on paper only. Thank you.

Thank you, Kathy.

Alright.

Great. We'll close public comment and move on to our briefing item, which is the six year comprehensive transportation improvement program annual amendment. Jennifer and Darius are here from Public Works to give us an update. Go ahead.

Thank you, chair Walker and members of the Planning and Assembly Committee. My name is Jennifer Camerzel. I'm the transportation division manager. I'm joined by Darius Thompson, assistant division manager in the division. Sorry. And so say something. Apologize. Thanks for letting Amazing presentation. So next slide. Or is this slide correct? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So today's presentation is a briefing in preparation of what we're also gonna bring back to you in April. This is informational briefing briefing for what we're gonna provide as an overview of the needs for adopting the six year program.

We're gonna Darius is gonna provide a summary overview and propose for renewable projects. We're gonna talk a little bit more about the relationship between the city's priorities and then a timeline. And then one element that's new for this presentation that you all might not have seen in the past because it's new for us as a work plan is really starting to look at how we're gonna prioritize projects for inclusion in the six year program moving forward now that we have the adopted updated transportation availability plan. So we're gonna keep we're kind of joining two of these efforts. We got the current annual amendment process along with what we're working we're working closely with the transportation commission to start hoping to identify that prioritization that would go into effect ideally in the next annual amendment process.

Just as a clarification, as I move through move through the presentation, you might hear us call it the six year transportation improvement program or the six year program with a tip. They're kind of all synonymous to that. So just as a reminder, the six year program is required by state law. It mandates that local jurisdictions annually adopt and submit to the state a six year program of transportation improvements. The state department of transportation and Puget Sound Regional Council use local six year programs as tools for helping to coordinate local jurisdiction priorities with those regional agencies.

So they they review each of our six year programs to make sure it's consistent with the birth management act and growth plan for the region. PSRC also monitors our programs for conformity with federal standards and then also to track projects supported by federal funds as well as they need that to model for their regional air quality. The updated program must be adopted by July 1 of each year, which you'll see on our last slide that talks through the timeline. The program also serves as an inventory of projects and a rough work plan for the development of our local transportation system, and as such, an important planning component under the state's work management act. The primary importance of the local program to Tacoma is that in most cases, projects must be included to be eligible for state and federal grants, and that this is the implementation phase of what we call our transportation.

State law requires capital projects such as roadway reconstruction, bridges, non motorized facilities, such as sidewalks and trails, and other capital related transportation projects to be included in the program. It does not require or include maintenance projects such as chip seal and pothole repairs to be within that. You typically see that in infrastructure maintenance plan. And then just as a reminder, as you and the community review the document, it's helpful to understand that the document identifies secured or reasonably secured revenues and expenditures for each of the projects. It is a six year look ahead, and so, typically, the projects that are in the, you know, first two years are the ones that are more secured or more realistic that we would be applying for fund how funding or we'll be applying for funding.

We really do work to balance the capital needs and priorities of the city with the growth expected, and then also, again, with the funds that are available. We take care and care is taken to this program so that it's not replicate the transportation and mobility plan, which includes that twenty year vision. So we don't bring in all of those projects into the six year program because, again, it's supposed to be what does the city realistically want to to build on those those next six years. So on this side, we're slide. I'm just gonna talk a little bit about the prioritization process, and this is gonna be what's key what feeds into the six year program and how we're gonna look to update our our criteria.

So currently, the project prioritization process involves a number of steps kind of in that lots of dots phase here. That phase one is, you know, we develop a set of a set of goals or objectives of what our project would be evaluated against. And this is where I'll say is really our transportation and the goals and the action strategies. And so here's our all of those projects and programs. And then it kinda goes through that first step, and it looks through, and then it creates that project list.

So from those goals and priorities and those modal network plans, right, we thought so we start developing. Here's a list of projects that'll help us meet that twenty year vision. And then from there, we outlined if you recall in the TMP and the appendix in the last appendix, there's a list of over 400 projects, that talks about that includes active transportation, vision zero, safe routes school, transit access. It's just kind of, again, help shape that that twenty year network would look like. And as part of that, we did create another analysis that I'll talk a little bit more about on the next slide to help score each of those those projects so that we can start seeing what projects should should or would the city then prioritize.

All of that feedback was based on all of the criteria was based on feedback from the community. And then from there, with the project list, the ideal is that we would make some adjustments, have it go through then another prioritization criteria, which is where we're at right now, is really looking at how do we identify the projects that go from the TMP to the six year program. And so making sure that we're not necessarily replicating all of that same criteria. Again, I'll talk a little bit more about that. This slide, just as if you all are still aware of, right, is the summary of the recently adopted transportation and mobility plan.

These are the rules that we're using prioritizing those projects in the appendix in the appendix, really taking forward equity and livability, safe safe and comfortable experiences, making sure we're connected with partnerships. All of these goals translated to a criteria that we created a scoring system for that 100 plus project list. And then on the next few slides, these summarize some of the comments and considerations that city staff, planning commission, and transportation commission have voiced as part of developing that criteria for projects that should be included or could be included in the six year six year program. And so one of the main criteria is that all the commissions that talked about is is really making sure that we're looking at projects that are implementing the transportation of our voting plan. So not even just if it's included, but actually the goals and policy or goals and action strategies that are part of it.

Other things that we've talked about is ensuring that we've got projects that are grant competitive because we do know that the city does heavily rely on grants to fund a lot of our infrastructure projects. We're really successful at them too because and I'll talk a little bit more about I guess you could say on the on the right hand side, there's a text box. Those are some of the different grants that we are we apply for and are very competitive with. And so we actually look at making sure we've got a diverse pool of projects that would be eligible or would compete well with those those grant calls. At some point, right, we might have more transportation needs that don't meet those criteria, but for now, with 400 plus projects, there's a likelihood that we have something that matches.

So really looking at that grant criteria and making sure we have projects that would meet active transportation, Vision zero safety is, you know, really big thing. Pavement condition, bridges, we'll talk a little bit more about any project we're adding related to bridges. Freight centers and corridors, which is PSRC is kind of big focus. And then the states where we're looking at highways and statewide significance. And then making sure that we've got a project list that's variety of total project costs or base project costs so that we can there's a smaller grant request, which you'll see in some of our our new added projects or the ones that are larger.

So having a being able to do a base approach. Another piece too is that they boast was making sure that we're looking at connectivity, not just within the city, but then also with our regional our partner agencies and adjacent jurisdictions as well, and then even looking at our projected growth areas. Another criteria that we talked about at least from a staff perspective and brought forward to this public commissions was geographical period. And this one speaks mostly to having just come off of, you know, the impact fee program and identifying the districts, which are recognized at match council districts and neighborhood councils, but impact fees are based on the growth and transportation needs of each of those districts. And currently, we do have, you know, a district.

So Northeast Tacoma is what we call that district. Does not have any projects specifically there, but they do have trips that contribute to other projects like in the Pine Bluffs

or through downtown or maybe a few

on the East Side. So possibly looking at some geographical area. And then the other piece too is they're they are concerned with trying to find out what is that expected funding for the six years and making sure that the projects that we do pull forward, if it's phased or not, but actually is realistic to what we can, which is one of the core considerations or conditions as part of the six year program mandate as well. So they also suggested just to kinda share, suggested that we do update the twenty fifteen criteria in the six year program to make it more in alignment with the 2025 TMP criteria. So now I'll turn it over to you, Derek, to share the major changes for this year.

Yeah. Thank you, Jennifer, for that. So I'm going to talk about some of the start first. So we have the the multilingual honorary street name sign project that we completed. This was fully funded by the Tribe of Indian, which included a 176 new signs across 28 intersections. We also had a a ceremony with

the trial there too with

the city with the mayor of Skalm at the time. Currently, we have one project only slated for removal, but we have approximately about 12 projects under construction now and nearly 13 projects in the kind of a closeout phase. So you will be seeing more as we continue down this process with the updating the STIP. Also, with additions, we come up with seven new proposed projects that we wanna add to the the STIP TIP, however you wanna call it. It's about 37,000,000 in total project costs, 6,700,000,000.0 of partnership costs, and 28 unidentified funds. And then over the next slide, I'll be able

to break down some of

the new projects that we are adding. Thank you, Jennifer. First project is the 6th Avenue Tacoma Avenue pavement preservation. The proposed scope includes a grinding overlay as well as pedestrian bike way improvements at intersections along 6th Avenue between Saint Helens and Yakima. This project will complete the remaining segments along the corridor.

Funding for this includes street initiative funding of $356,626, a preservation grant of 792 with $406. Okay. Moving on to the bridge capital projects. This is a this proposed scope includes a grinding oh, I'm sorry. This project is being added because we are made aware that PSRC pilot program, like Jennifer stated earlier, is being limited to counties right now, but we expect that to include cities in future years.

So we with the focus on operation and maintenance, so staff has decided to add a placeholder in this six year to to include all 43 bridge bridges within the city of Tacoma limits in this program. The anticipated cost is about $10,000,000 of what we're hoping to spend on this program. Moving on to the East D Street McKinley Way bicycle and pedestrian improvements. This is part of the sound transit Tacoma Dome link consistent improvement program. So I believe that this could be a strong candidate for future plans to expand the bicycle and pedestrian improvements in the area.

We have a unidentified partnership of $6.76700000.0 roughly of funding to kinda help that corridor. Next project is the Portland Avenue, Lincoln Avenue roundabout. This project is a future partnership project opportunity with the Port Of Tacoma that includes construction of a roundabout at Portland Avenue and Lincoln Avenue Bridge to support freight mobility and future active active transportation improvements with the estimated cost of close to about 18,000,000. Next project is South 38th And South Alaska Street signal. This project includes $800,000 of local refunds.

This presents a potential opportunity to pursue grants funding to expand the scope of work at the intersection. Another second to last, we have the second South Park Avenue Greenway and school safety improvement. This project is part of our safe out school program, which includes Traccom and devices to support much needed pedestrian and bicycle access to the Fern Hill area. So that'll be good good project for that area because I kinda grew up in that area, so I know I kinda understand what's what's needed there. The funding sources for this project is transportation improvement board, a grant of 478,746, and 119,686 from REIT funds.

And last but not least, we have our Tacoma Mall Loop Road study. It's a planning grant to connect four districts throughout the transportation network designed for walking, bicycle, lane, and slower vehicular traffic. Funding includes $96 from the street initiatives and also 284 from PSRC Countywide Grain program. And I will turn it back over to Jennifer to kinda give you the next steps.

So just some additional before I move on, I'll just share some additional information about the Mall neighborhood road project. That's one that was identified in the Tacoma Mall suburbia plan. And so it is that planning grant to identify what is feasible, what it needs to do, what are some of the different transformational improvements to get to an area. We've started some of that leak trail already with environmental services doing some work on South 45th. And so we've got portions of the trail already completed, And so it would connect what they see it what we see as the vision in the Tacoma Mall neighborhood, which would include those parks and some of those other space borders.

So while not currently existing, that's part of And so this would be one of those spaces to to understand what those things might be feasibility, honestly. So then just moving on to the next steps. This last slide just shares what our calendar looks like. We will be coming back to you all April 22 with additional information. We'll highlight some of the different projects that we've heard either from you or if you've got ones that you'd like more information about either new being removed or existing projects.

We're happy to highlight those, but we'll share some of that. I think it's really good partnerships and also just responsiveness to the community here. I recognize that the engineering division will be coming back later this year with overview of our capital projects to something a little bit more in-depth, but we'll highlight that. And then the idea is from there, ask for recommendations to move this forward to city council for a study session, public hearing, and then ideally, it goes through first reading, second meeting adoption by July 1. And then I added on just gonna as I've mentioned, that other piece of our presentation was about that criteria setting for the six year program.

Again, we wanted we're starting early and try and tee that up for the next six year adoption process. So I'm committed to coming back later this year, probably fall time with transportation commissions, enables digest some of the feedback that they've gotten from planning commission and you all, and then start working with you about what that criteria look like look like. So with that, that concludes our presentation. We're happy to answer any questions. And, yeah, I think we'll we'll have some more opportunities for the feedback feedback now on anything.

Great. Thank you so much. I have some specific questions. I'll open it up to the committee first, but I do wanna ask the general question that I always ask is, if I'm a listening member of the public, how do I get my idea out there? The the dot thing was really great, but how do I get in that first bucket of dots for review? Like, when when you email public works, are you putting all those things into that dot bucket? Or

So not so that first bucket of dots, I'll say, has been informed by the transportation mobility plan. It's by sub area plans as well. So there's projects which we listed. There's neighborhood planning that's been included. So those have been kind of the opportunities, again, looking longer term. But if there's an idea or a project that someone's interested, we can see how it fits in the TMP because that's where we started to look at how that connectivity. And if there are some opportunities to match up where, you know, modify or change or update to address some of those community concerns, then we can, but ideally, we're gonna start with that vision, and then we start working towards where we're gonna budget and then prioritize it. So

Thank you. Who wants

to kick us off? Do you have questions? I move you to the

vice chair? Yeah. Go ahead.

If I I think it was actually one of my first votes when I first got out of counseling to do the tech, like, two years ago. Because we have to do it every year. Right? Yeah. I think it was one of my first ones now that I think about it.

We basically have to reauthorize the next six years every year. That's the way it kinda works, and it's secured or reasonably secured funding. So when you said that, the the question I had in my head is initiative funding and its impact on our ability to even do any of this. Have you guys given us have I missed an email on, like, the list of the the the projects that are on here, or is that coming in the near future?

It would come in the neck for the next presentation. Do you mean the list for that's all on six year program?

Yeah.

Yep. It'll be part of the next presentation, but we can give you I can copy to provide a link to the current

That'd be great just to kinda look at those. I remember looking at it last year. I would also if it's easy, but if it's not, that's fine too. Identify the ones that had some reliance on street initiative funding or the types of programs that had Street's initiative funding in the past as a way for us, you know

Yeah.

To communicate that to community and constituents and said, hey. Street's initiative got us these types of programs in the past, and that's at risk. So that was the first thing that kinda yeah. And I do wanna make sure if anyone was listening. We weren't removing the program. It just finished because I was there for the the the unveiling of the of the of the signs or the Right.

Basically done.

You know? It is dropping off the list because we actually did it. When I first read it, I'm like, we're removing it. Wait. And then I saw the I'm like, wait. No. We're done with it. That's right. So that was the only other thing. But, yeah, I think in in this world where we have funding limitations, we should kind of it would help me to see those as actual projects. These type of things that rely on streets initiative funding.

That's it.

And that's a a really good point. So I think that's one of the things that the commission had talked about as we update the criteria for the six year program is to actually be more realistic funds are. So start pulling in what is how has grief been trending. Right? And so talking about how financially constrained is the six year program, which makes it might tear down how many projects are in there. So we have to be thoughtful if we cut out too much, but also be realistic. That's what we're

Alright. Council member Hines or council member Diaz, do you have questions or thoughts?

I'm happy to to jump in, though I'm being I'm reading the subtitles at the same time, so it's it's a little quiet in the room. My question and I bear in mind, I Jennifer, I saw this at the tran transportation commission when I was at that meeting, last month. My question was just one because probably asked my the first question I have, which is about the list itself. The the part of the program updates, TMP project criteria, and goals, there's, like, listed one through eight. That's those are not in order. Are are those in order of presidents, or are those just eight things we're keeping track of?

Eight things we're keeping track of.

Okay. Because I just when I saw, like, a thriving economy numb being number eight, I was like, okay. Well, is that, like, the lowest priority of these? But I know that's not true. It's kind of something we're tracking over time. But that's that's good good question for me. The other one, just as for my own sake, how many of these are related to the so items that are on the six year tip are the ones we identified for funding for impact fees. Correct?

Yes. Correct.

And to be identified as a project to use impact fees, it has to be on the tip in order to do that. Is that correct?

Correct.

And then I think you answered this question. We did impact fees the last time. Once we complete those projects, we don't recalculate the impact fees again to address the change in the product or the projects that would then fall on the or I guess that's my I guess my question with the the impact fee conversation. When something is complete, like, customer talked about, we finished a project. We remove things. If one of the projects that was identified for impact fees is removed, what is the process by which the next project is added, or does it require us completing all those projects before we add a new one?

So great question. And we can even though a project might be completed or constructed, we can still collect the fees for that project provided it's still providing capacity. So there's still a need. Right. We might finish a project in a in the next year, but it hasn't used up that capacity for that what it provides.

So we can actually still collect those fees. The only way to add or remove to add a project to the impacting program is through council's adoption process. So it would have to be added to the six year program, actually, the council facilities program, which are very similar. It's really the same. And then it would require staff and council then to reassess that project list and what those needs are, and then that would adjust the rates typically would adjust the rates. So it does require counsel action and then analysis of the modeling and then the cost estimate side of it.

Okay.

This is very good. I mean, so similar kind of land use policy where first you have to update the comprehensive plan before you can actually go and do a site specific rezone. There's, like, multiple steps in this process. I guess how many projects did we identify through the impact fees? Sorry. I'm, like, pulling us off of the tip into that. But, like, how many did was six per district area?

I not necessarily.

Okay. They

are more in subdistricts than others. I don't have it right now, but it's fairly readily available. I will provide

that to you.

Like, for instance, Northeast Tacoma doesn't have a specific project there. North End District has a couple as far as, the same, like, sidewalks, but then we've got some in South Tacoma and then Southeast, and downtown that have quite a bit more. So, it vary it's dependent on each of the different districts, but, yeah, I'm happy to follow-up with Yeah.

I just I think that because the tip has more than that number of projects on the list. Like, the the list is bigger than that.

I just so I that was

aligning the two in my mind. That was something I was trying to get to. Okay. That makes sense to me. The so when I was at the transportation commission, they spent a lot of time talking about the philosophy of, like, what goes in the tip and what doesn't. I noticed we're not doing that conversation here. Is or is this the moment for us to to to lay out kind of the fill our our thoughts on, like, the broad strokes, what we wanna see in the tip going ahead, Jennifer?

Yeah. Absolutely. I think this would be an opportunity if the if you all do have some thoughts, that we can take back to the commission or start, you know, evaluating and and figuring out what that might look like. We definitely will come out in. But

Yeah. I mean, I think what I because I took the opportunity to plan the transportation commission to share my thoughts, so I don't think they you know, I'm not a part of it. I, you know, I said, you know, I think about what I I think about high leverage projects, so things that that have high leverage, meaning, like, we can leverage grant funding, which we're already identifying. I think about projects that connect neighborhoods and connect, different parts of our city as being high priorities. I think projects related to places where we've identified high growth capacity.

You know? So we're looking at our land use map where we identified UR three. So we're looking for, like, expanded growth. How are we looking at the tip as a way to support some of those some of the land uses with our future infrastructure planning decisions? Is there other one there was one other one I had in my mind? Connectivity, land use. I feel like there was one other one that I came I had. But K. Oh, and partnerships. Looking at priority projects and tip that could best leverage the partnerships.

Right? So when I think about our parks partners, our schools partners, our transit partners, at Pierce Transit, you know, how are we looking at projects that could best match or leverage some of what they're looking at too? So, I think the example I used in the transportation commission was the bus transit project, right, that we were looking at down Pacific Avenue or future BRT expansions. Are we looking at our tip as a way to kind of work together and collaborate with those folks to identify projects that can support both of our needs? So those are kind of the broad stroke philosophies.

I mean, I have a bunch of street corners and intersections in my district like councilor Sidalgo does that I'd like to see added, but, like, I will, you know, hold off on being that blunt. Thank you, council thank you, chair Walker.

Thank you, council member Hines. Council member Diaz, anything?

No. I think council member Hines actually covered my thought and question around the partnerships piece, because I do always wonder how we can be better coordinating to leverage what other folks are doing with what we're doing in the tip. But, otherwise, I think I'm good. Thank you.

Thank you. I wonder if we can pull up that criteria page again. I really appreciated this. I think this is maybe the the question we always have is, like, what is the criteria? How are we filtering these? And I feel like this year, we got a lot more, and I appreciate that. But I did have a couple questions about specific things on there.

More. Forward. Ready. Yes.

This one. Okay. So you may have said this, but I and I think I figured it out in the conversation. These are for future. Correct. Okay. So this is the conversation that the transportation commission is gonna have in the fall, and then you're gonna come back to IPS on? Okay. Yes. Great. And the the groups on the side, so those are people you're talking to about this or people who are criteria or what maybe I'll just say that. What

are those people?

Who are those Yeah. Great opportunity for clarification. So that list is our typical grants that we actually apply for. So these are granting agencies or grant program. Mhmm. And the idea is just to give you all a flavor of what the diversity of types of projects that we want to come up with that might be more competitive. So if you know my all six kinda little bit. So for instance, watchdog safe routes to schools, grant application that comes out every two years. Kids focus it's gotta be focused on schools, safe walking and biking. It's tied to crashes.

So those are all the different pieces, and these are safe routes to school action plan is part of that one. And then our national highway preservation project kind of lower down the list. That's a preservation project. So they're primarily looking at roadway and free paving. And then oftentimes, we'll try to see how can we partner and add on, you know, safety improvements or or active transportation. But it wouldn't score well to put forward one of our safe route to school projects, you know, if it's not a reservation, it's not helping the the the payment condition index for that street the condition of that street. Okay. Great. To give you a give folks a flavor of the.

Yeah. Super helpful. And then you mentioned the bridge pilot that we're, I think, voting on tomorrow at PSRC, but which is great. Excited about that, and thank you for thinking ahead on putting the bridges on there. Is Fishing Wars Memorial Bridge already on there as its own project separately?

Yes. Fishing is separate.

Okay. Because that's a rebuild, not the other ones are preservation of maintenance, or are those 43 bridges, like, everything? Could could be anything.

It could be anything. Okay. So the bridge program project, ideally, what happens we have a couple of these that are programmatic. Mhmm. Like, neighborhood programs is a project here, but it's it doesn't necessarily identify locations. But if we were to get funding, grant funding for that or for bridges, once it's awarded, we actually would then add it as a separate project. And so if, like, Tom Avenue Bridge was funded, it's good. But if for some reason we need to apply for that and we got funding for it through the PSRC project, we would then, in the following year, pull it out as its own separate project.

Okay. Great. That's super helpful. And both of my colleagues mentioned the partnerships and how we reflect that. I know we've been in a lot of conversations about parks adding some dollars to their bond for access, but how do we sort of formalize that? And excited to hear, you know, as we're all I know none of this is final. Yet, and there's

lots of conversations, but excited to

sort of figure those things out and make sure we're highlighting and being the best partner we can and improving spaces our constituents want improved. So that's all my questions. Can I know you said it's April 22 is the when you come back? Yes. Okay. So if anyone has thoughts, questions, additions, get them to you before then so that you can think about them before we because that when you come on the twenty second, we're sending it to council. Correct. That's the Correct. That's the The final draft. Mhmm. Kind of okay. Great. Well, thank you. Thank you both. And it's really exciting to see the great pictures of all the good work that y'all have done.

Good stuff. Okay. We are going to move on to our topics for upcoming meetings with Anna Lee.

In two weeks, we will end up interviews for the climate and sustainability commission

Great. Thank you. And also wanna flag, I just heard from staff today that we had a youth applicant for the climate and sustainability commission, but they dropped out. So we're gonna reopen the youth seat specifically. And then as soon as we have applicants, we'll just add that to an agenda, but it'll just be for the youth seat probably April, May.

So look for that. Okay. Couple notes from me. The committee has received a memo from the fire department and from planning and development services staff on upcoming Tacoma municipal code amendments that would eliminate the board of building appeals and move the authority for building and fire code appeals to the hearing examiner. This memo was sent to the committee along with today's meeting materials and will be available to the public on Legistar after this meeting.

Anyone any of my colleagues have any thoughts or wanna discuss those further? Great. Then we'll we're just flagging that for a a look in your inbox to make sure, you know, you have it. I'm gonna ask the question since our last meeting has anyone visited one of our committee's boards commissions? And council member Hines, you have mentioned several times that you're at the transportation commission. Tell us. I

think I talked about that the last time I was here.

I I kinda feel like you did too. Was that more than two weeks ago?

I think so.

Okay. Great. Anyone else have other ones? I think you talked about planning commission last time too.

No. Landmark Landmarks preservation. I did both

of those Okay. Subsequent ones. Yeah.

Great. And I'm going to the urban design board next week. Yep. So I'll report back. Any other items of interest from the committee? Seeing none, I actually, before we adjourn, I just wanna flag I don't know. We've just lost or all the public work staff left, but I do wanna get an answer to Kit because my understanding is that we did negotiate a deal with UWT. I don't know if you know about this, Ramiro, because they they did pay some money. So I just wanna make sure we put that information and correct the record

on that. That that is correct.

Ramiro Chavez, environmental services director. Yes. It was a reduced contribution.

Yeah. Reduced, but not zero? Not zero. Yeah. Okay. Great. And we can stay and chat too about that a little bit. But for now, I'll take a motion to adjourn.

Move to adjourn.

Second.

Second. Moved and seconded. All is a favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? We are adjourned.