Local Planning Agency - Regular Meeting

All right. Good evening, everyone. It is 6.01, calling the meeting to order. Mauricio?

Commissioner Stuyvesant?

Here.

Commissioner Lama?

Here.

Commissioner Joseph? Present. Vice Mayor Vizcarra?

Here.

Mayor Svecin? Here. All members present.

OK. So this is our zoning.

Yeah, so this is the meeting of a local planning agency. We'll be considering today three items. The first item listed on the agenda is 2A, which is a discussion and or action on an ordinance to amend the LDRs regarding the administrative site plan review.

Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners, members of the Local Planning Agency. This item amends Article 5 of the Land Development Regulations entitled Development Review Procedures, and it accomplishes two things. First, it removes the requirement for applicants to submit physical documents and therefore allows us to move to a fully digital review process. And the second is that it reiterates something that is currently implied but not expressly stated in the code, which is that development projects must maintain all elements of an improved site plan in the conditions of approval and perpetuity. And I'm available if you have any questions.

OK. Do we have any public speakers?

No, ma'am.

All right. Do we have any questions from anyone?

no yeah i do have a few questions go ahead so um it's very good to go completely digital um however what now when um a member of the public wants to have access to it because we don't have right now the smart gov capabilities like i said that we're paying for activated so they have to go and do a public record request to see any plans that get submitted

So for planning and zoning applications, they're not submitted through SmartGov. So applicants can submit them on like a thumb drive, a CD, through email, and then we save them to our internal system. So yes, it is a public records request.

Okay, so that's the only way they can get it. Okay. And then I have another question because we kind of have this issue last year when we have an applicant with a site modification for the state of Aqualina for the parking garage. correct so in that moment it was said that we needed to do the site plan modification because it was not convenient for them not to have a CO on the parking garage and we went ahead and we had a discussion in here however In the event that it wasn't clear who had to pay for the undergrounding of the utilities, it was a recommendation of the staff that then it has to be paid by the taxpayers?

No, that's not something Amy would answer.

Okay, so who can answer that question?

You can send it to me. I'll provide you an answer. But we already heard the item, so I'm not sure what the question is. The commission voted on it.

Correct, correct. And I voted against it, basically, because when we have very specific conditions, and then later on, which is what we are codifying right now, correct? That when they come, the only way to change those conditions is with some site plan modification. Yep, correct. OK. I just wanted to put on the record that we did it before, that the recommendation was against the public and the residents. Now we have the resident, the taxpayer, had to pay for the underground, which was a condition for the certificate of occupancy of that specific property. Anybody can correct me if I'm saying anything wrong, please. And I just want to put on the record that we have to be very careful with these conditions and the way that the recommendation is coming. Because in this case specifically, now the taxpayer has to pay for the underground or those utilities. That was the condition of approval for that parking garage.

Which project are we talking about?

The estates at Aquilina Parking Garage next door.

I don't believe that was a condition, was it?

So I don't recall the specifics of the case, and I'm hesitant to give something that's not factual. But that's why the project came before you as a site plan modification. The commission had to approve to change that condition. I don't remember the specifics, so I don't want to.

I went ahead and I did actually review it. That was February 25, if anybody want to check it out. And that's the issue that I have, that we are approving these projects with very specific conditions, and then they come here. Or in this case, I think it was really a big conflict of interest, because they brought it to us after throwing a very lavish party to the mayor. Once again, very conflicted, getting freebies from the developers, and then voting to give them this kind of site conditions approvals, general modifications. So I just wanted to point out on the record that whoever is sitting down here should be very careful when allowing these site modifications.

If there were very specific conditions to get those projects approved That's only my comment, okay Amy so can you please clarify again what this item is because I got a little bit lost in all this conversation as to what we're talking about Sure, this is a text amendment to article 5 of the land development regulations

to strike the requirement for physical copies of documents to be submitted with zoning applications. And it also adds a line of code that says that development projects must maintain all elements of approved site plan and conditions of approval in perpetuity unless a site plan modification is approved. So can they still submit the paper, or are we just doing everything electronically? They could if they want to, but this is at least removing the requirement to approve.

Submit physical documents and how long will this take once it approved take effect? Second reading is this evening.

So I believe it would be effective immediately So there isn't or is there that appeal period this particular ordinance?

It could be but this particular ordinance says ten days All right So but this wouldn't be a problem for anyone that's a building a single-family home and potentially doesn't have the ability They can still choose to submit paper copies as well. Yes. Okay. Does anyone have any questions? I

We just need a motion to approve Thank you next item on the agenda is item to see I Excuse me to be I'm sorry, which is a discussion and or action regarding an ordinance to amend chapter 265 section 265 that's 53 regarding sign regulations Okay, so this is a proactive ordinance to require community pools to display their address in a convenient invisible location and

OK. And just for clarification, I know we went through this before, but what does this mean for single family homes versus condos versus pub? I know we don't have any public pools, but let's say we did.

So the code specifically says this is for swimming pools owned or operated by condominium associations or any commercial entities. So this wouldn't apply to a single family home.

OK. Now I know that most condos already have signs up. Does this change their current signage? Are we going to go back and ask them to change all their signage? So from my understanding, there is going to be an educational period.

and then we're going to be working with the properties to get them into compliance. But it is a good and proactive request is to put an address displayed at the community pool at least four inches in size. Well, the letters, four inches in size.

The letters, right. Yes, not the sign. Okay. Any questions?

I think this is good stuff. Really, yeah. For hotels. It's the same idea, like why put the numbers on the top of the... Lifeguard stands just to you may not always know where you're standing, right? You need to give people direct something to to Be able to convey to 9-1-1, right? So good. I like it.

Okay, I'll take a motion so moved second The next item is to see a discussion and or action regarding a resolution on Approving the vision document for Town Center North and neighborhood business districts.

Mayor vice mayor and commissioners members of the local planning agency We are pleased to present to you the final product of the sunny Isles Beach vision planning for tomorrow effort Which is in the form of the vision document before you? We are joined tonight by Caitlin Forbes from complete cities planning group who has been working on this project since 2023 and before I hand the presentation over to her I just want to give a brief reminder of why we are here and the purpose of the project I The area known as Town Center North currently has no supporting comprehensive plan policies, which is really hindering redevelopment in the area. And similarly, the mixed use business and the neighborhood business feature land use categories which we are collectively referring to as the neighborhood business districts, conflict with the land development regulations. So before drafting formal policy amendments, we went out to the community to assess what the future vision of the area is and if it has changed since incorporation of the city and adoption of the first comprehensive plan. So the document that is before you for consideration is the culmination of this extensive public outreach effort. So with that, I will hand it over to Caitlin.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank You Amy good evening members of the local planning agency my name is Caitlin Forbes and with Complete Cities Planning Group on behalf of staff we're excited to be here tonight to present the vision document and go through the items on the agenda here tonight in order we'll first discuss the history of the project just briefly I know Amy gave you a little bit of a reminders to how we got here and the steps that we've taken we'll go through the public outreach process and findings and from that process we'll of course get into the meat of the vision document and the draft that's before you as well as the next steps to move forward from the visioning process so how we got here was through a previous planning analysis and effort that identified two primary items or concerns one that there was a need to mitigate inconsistencies between your comprehensive plan and land development regulations you've probably heard us say this several times that the two documents are inconsistent and we need to create consistency between those The other issue is that there were not clear upper maximums for several of your land use categories. And in some cases, you didn't have any development allowances established in the case of Town Center North in your comprehensive plan. So before establishing those upper maximums and the development allowances, in particular for Town Center North, the city wanted to understand Whether the original vision for this area still stood as it was established, um, in your early two thousands comprehensive plan or whether over the years and, um, throughout the redevelopment history of the area, particularly on the east side of Collins and the surrounding area, whether that vision has changed. And so the town center north, um, study areas shown on the map here for anyone who's not familiar, generally east of Collins and north of 162nd. And so one of the first and primary focuses was to hear from the public as part of determining whether that original vision still stood. And so our public outreach process is highlighted on the screen here. We had a focus group that had an iterative process of three different meetings building upon the previous meetings and ultimately they Provided some guiding principles that are incorporated into the vision document and are part of the bones of the vision document plan in Addition to the outreach that we heard from over 400 respondents for our online survey We hosted two open houses. The city also hosted several pop-up meetings. We attended a senior roundtable meeting Over with the senior citizens and they provided some meaningful insight in a different perspective as well We also had different one-on-one meetings with the property owners and with you all as the commissioners, and we had several different commission workshops over the last several years. So what came out of that process was a general consensus of not repeating the east side. It was the way that the public summarized their concerns. ideal vision, um, for the town center, north area, and the term kind of a beachy village was also coined through the process. So what does that mean? Ultimately they were looking for a low scale and pedestrian oriented village, um, ultimately looking for something that was more neighborhood serving, um, rather than something that was a little bit more, um, intense as originally established in the original vision. Ultimately, as well, the desire to either redevelop or at least renovate the commercial plazas was a key focus for a lot of the focus group members and the general public through the survey respondents, and focusing on creating a better treatment for Collins Avenue, and even better, perhaps providing new interior streets that create a more comfortable walking environment within the Town Center North area. So the focus group provided the following summary for the guiding principles as part of our last meeting with them and this gave us a lot of really good clear direction for formulating again the bones of the vision document. So the first item was to keep height away from Collins Avenue. That was something that we heard over and over was to avoid a canyon effect since the height is already on the east side of Collins. There was a general consensus to push height in Town Center North further away from Collins if there were to be any sort of meaningful height upon redevelopment in the area. Also to focus on prioritizing open space at the ground level, so meaningful public realm space in the form of different types of pocket parks, linear parks, also tying into existing park networks and pathways. I've Mentioned creating new internal streets and also incorporating structured parking to better utilize some of the existing surface parking that currently dominates the area between Collins and the existing retail centers. So we met with the commission several times as shown on the screen here we asked a series of different types of questions to try to pull out the vision from from the commission as to whether again the original town center vision stood whether there was any worthwhile tradeoffs in terms of granting additional intensity or density in exchange for certain things specifically public ground features. whether residential uses should be continued to be allowed on the commercial properties and whether there should be a harsh distinction between commercial and residential properties and where those uses should be permitted we also of course focused on the Collins AB treatment the overall form in terms of an inward or outward focused redevelopment pattern and again height being a key focus of the conversation So what did we hear back from you all we heard that the original vision did not stand that the new vision is more nuanced That you do prefer to see this scale and separation of the commercial and residential areas stay about the same and to maintain a separation between commercial and residential uses that there shouldn't be so much of a blending especially with the commercial spreading westward into the existing residential areas there's a preference again mirroring the public consensus to see the existing shopping centers at least redeveloped or renovated rather and perhaps redeveloped with some amount of residential to support the required entitlements to from a financial perspective redevelop those properties we talked about the overall open space throughout the centers and to allow but not require retail in the residential areas. So that brings us to the document before us, which is the vision plan. And that's the culmination of our public outreach process. And that establishes our 20-year vision. Ultimately, that's going to guide our future comprehensive plan and land development regulation amendments. So we'll go through the document. I believe you all have a copy of the plan before you. And it's broken up into different chapters or topics, but the first piece is establishing the overall planning principles. You can see them up on the screen here. Um, and they're reiterated throughout the different, um, chapters. So we'll get into each of those as we move forward. So the overall character is kind of the first chapter of the plan. And again, the overall, the stakeholders envisioned this pedestrian oriented, low scale village environment centered around walkable streets and varied open spaces often described as a beachy village. And the various design principles are listed on the screen there. So again, limiting overall density intensity with the exception that the commission may want to grant. certain parcels or properties, additional density or intensity when it's consistent with the remainder of the plan and further benefits the project. And we have some kind of parameters on what that looks like, primarily maintaining lower podium heights, especially around Collins and maintaining where you do have the height, making sure that it's away from Collins Avenue. Also restricting as I mentioned commercial development to the currently developed parcels Maintaining and protecting the residential properties was a key item We heard from the focus group in the public as well as the Commission that the existing residential areas were kind of an enclave and That they were really enjoyed and that they should be protected and not necessarily changed Again open space you're going to hear discussion about different types of open spaces throughout the presentation but overall encouraging kind of a park once atmosphere where you're coming to the center, you're parking in one location, and then you're able to enjoy the full town center, whether you're going to eat and then going to some other form of entertainment, you're able to just park and leave your car and experience it as a pedestrian. So here's some images that we presented at one of the last workshops and that were incorporated into the vision plan. And then the next chapter talks about street design and circulation. So we're kind of going from the macro to the micro level. So in terms of formulating a new street and circulation pattern, the overall consensus was that there should be a focus on promoting walkability and efficient circulation within the retail centers. Again, maintaining a physical separation in terms of automobile connections from east to west. Only allowing for additional pedestrian connections between the east and west half of town center north There should again be a focus on additional streetscape design and focusing on the pedestrian experience at the ground level And here's some additional images that were included. You can see some examples of the new interior street treatments that would be contemplated as well as a potential iteration of a future Collins Ave treatment where it becomes more of a linear plaza or boulevard type experience, creating additional buffering and shade experiences. And then the existing residential streets, which again are generally enjoyed and well liked by the public. Moving on to the commercial parking. So moving from the street network down to parking, once you get onsite, again, we talked about the large dominating pattern of the surface parking lots that are currently there and the impact that that has to the aesthetics of the site. There was something that we heard over and over. One, it's not very convenient to park. There perhaps isn't enough parking. Certainly when it comes to beach parking, that was something that we heard a need for in terms of additional public parking. But just also being able to go in a park and then get to the different shops and restaurants that they may be wanting to enjoy in Town Center North wasn't the easiest in the current configuration. So there's certainly an opportunity to develop structured parking in the area and that would free up a lot of the surface parking for additional infill that would better mirror or implement the vision plan. there is a note in the plan that we would like to maintain an allowance for smaller pocket surface parking areas for convenience parking for different retailers like grab-and-go restaurants and things like that because there are certain retailers that do need quick in-and-out 10-15 minute type of parking upon the redevelopment of the structured parking there's some guidance in terms of the design of those structured parking garages ideally especially along street frontages or open spaces there should be some sort of liner building to screen that garage and this is an example of the smaller convenient style pocket parking that should still be maintained in some smaller fashion open space one of the key items of the plan here you can see that there's a call for additional open space in terms of varied open space throughout again that can be pocket parks linear parks connections to existing spaces there's an existing park to the north but there's also existing trails and pathways around the edges that would be key to tie into to maintain a consistent circulation pattern through and around town center north and focusing on Collins Avenue as a new linear park or a boulevard style treatment is something that was highly desired here's some examples of those images the top being a potential Collins Ave treatment and the bottom being a flexible pocket or Plaza type of space within the new town center And not every space needs to be programmed. You could have different flexible open spaces that could be programmed and used for different events throughout the year. overall building character and uses so moving into the individual sites within the property again building mass and height should be shifted away from Collins Avenue an overall focus or emphasis on the lower scale but when done correctly the Commission could consider a taller larger buildings as long as they maintain some sort of podium design that created a pedestrian friendly pedestrian scaled street frontage here's some examples of what that may look like smaller and larger scale buildings again maintaining the separation between commercial and residential uses and maintaining the existing residential areas and those were enjoyed and well-liked and seen as an area that should be protected and maintained moving into the neighborhood business districts the study maps are shown on this slide as well as this slide and since the city was taking the opportunity to go through the visioning process and go through the public outreach process the city did want to hear if there were any new visions or concepts for the town or for the northern business districts rather overall a lot of the same sentiments and ideas from Town Center North carried forward into the neighborhood business districts the same desire for those high quality open spaces and pedestrian level pedestrian realm atmosphere enhancers were also desired in this area one of the key things here was whether to focus on Collins Avenue or Atlantic Boulevard as a new pedestrian oriented street And the consensus was pretty split. It was kind of down the middle about whether upon redevelopment, buildings should be oriented and focused more towards Collins Avenue or towards a quieter street, towards what would be the back now along Atlantic Boulevard, which would create maybe a different feel and atmosphere if the redevelopment was done in such a pattern. But again, a desire to see the building height pushed away from Collins Avenue in these areas as well. So in terms of next steps, moving forward, the vision plan sets of the tone and character for the future comprehensive plan and land development regulations so that would be the next step would be to move into drafting those comprehensive plan and land development regulations that would be done when we're legally allowed to you probably have heard a lot about SB 180 and the implications of that so we would move forward with those steps when either SB 180 is amended or when it sunsets So with that, we'd like to thank the Commission as well as the focus group in the public. Everyone who participated in the process is great to hear from you all, and we certainly got a lot of valuable information and feedback throughout the process. Be happy to take any questions.

OK, thank you Marisa. Do we have public speakers? We do Tracy Slavin, but public speaking first and then we'll hear from the Commission.

Good evening, mayor and commissioners. My name is Tracy Slavins. My address is 3800 Northeast First Avenue, Suite 200, Miami, Florida. I'm here on behalf of Desert Properties. I'm here to speak on an informational basis, not in support or against. But I do want to highlight that. The vision plan document was prepared without the participation of the property owners of these areas. It was resident-based, and the stakeholders that I think were engaged for this process were the people surrounding these areas, but didn't actually include the people that own the properties that are the subject of some of these discussions and changes. Notwithstanding and recognizing that this plan is merely stating a vision and has no legal force or effect at this time, we still want to ensure that the property owner's rights are protected and not impaired by the adoption of this plan or future amendments to the zoning code. We're just asking that you don't take any rights away. We're not asking you to give us anything else To protect those rights we wanted to present additional language to be inserted into the vision plan That ensures that this won't have negative impacts on the property owners in the future So I have a handout here and I'll read it on the record and I asked that this would be incorporated into the item that you will hear at on the 630 agenda and and essentially the new language states it is important to note that the vision plan is just that a proposed vision for the possible future development within certain of the city's zoning districts neither the vision plan nor its subsequent adoption by the city operates to change the future land use designation or zoning district on any parcel of land the vision plan does not operate to down plan or down zone any lands within the city Notably, the vision plan does not seek to divest, take, or impair existing rights. Those rights remain intact following the adoption of the plan. The city also notes that there are many as-built conditions, natural conditions, and prior approvals that may render the implementation of the vision plan inequitable in certain circumstances on a case-by-case basis. This vision plan is not intended to, nor shall it, down-zone or down-plan any property rights. So it's just a protective measure, and we just ask that you graciously consider incorporating it into the vision plan document. Thank you.

Thank you. Any other speakers?

Yes, ma'am. David Virgil.

good evening my name is david virgil my address is one seven five zero zero north fairy road sunny isles beach i just want to say i was part of the focus group and i want to clarify this uh vision document is just like a guide or a concept of how the town center north district and the business overlay district should look like in the future it's not necessarily imposing any new regulations on current properties just how the city would like the area to look like it's not forcing developers or property owners to change at this time and that's basically all thank you so originally I was apprehensive regarding the planners intent and

as to what they would present to us. But accordingly, and going over what was presented to us this evening, I'd like to commend them for doing an excellent job. I just hope that the plan as it's envisioned here could come to fruition one day.

Anyone else?

If I may, please. So, I mean, I'm personally impacted by this because that's where I live. And I absolutely appreciate, I think you listened and you incorporated the input of the community. I especially appreciate you protecting the residential nature of North Bay Road. And until we turn it into a truck stop. But for now, this is great. And my favorite piece that I had not considered that I saw in your report is the linear park. We have a version, I guess you see, like the intercoastal part that's on the south, right? That's south, yeah, on the south of 163rd Street. And to have some version of that, even better than that, stretch as far as possible along Collins, that would be fantastic. And it would not only be pretty, which is nice, but it protects pedestrians. As we've said repeatedly, walking on our sidewalks, we've done what we can with what is ours, but widening here and there. But it's not a fun experience on Collins. So the linear park, I thought, was a great place feature based on the input that you received. So thank you.

OK. Anyone else? Commissioner Steubeson.

I'm going to read it. So the resolution explicitly states that this document will serve as the, quote, foundation and provide guidance for future amendments to the comprehensive plan and land development regulations, meaning that once it's passed, this document can be used for the pretext to rezone these districts. And they're doing it apparently. Once you read it, you can say that it states specifically that we don't need to do it, that this is just a vision, right? Do we need this document?

You do need to take some sort of action to establish upper development maximums which are currently missing in the Town Center North District. That's why development's been on hold in the areas you don't have development maximums or allowances in your comprehensive plan that are aligned with your land development code.

So it's not just a guidance. We need this document to then go and make the changes to the comp plan and land development regulations, correct?

Correct. You need either this plan or some sort of direction to adopt development allowances.

So it comes to the process because it's not so much about the product, but how we got here. How much money do we spend on this? So we're working on something that we don't even know how much it costs? Are you asking the city manager? Whoever can answer, yes.

How much we spend on what?

on this process. How much do we spend on the staff, on time, on consultants, etc. How much? This is a product of how much money they will put on this and how much time.

I don't know. I'd have to get that information.

Then we should not be voting on this. We don't have the information. We don't know how much. We don't know the time. I have another question. We're talking about the people was really involved. Surveys went out there. I might be wrong, but I don't recall receiving the data, the raw data of the public input. Did we receive that information?

We did. We presented the results of the public outreach and survey results at one of the commission workshops.

No, my question is like when the people went into the website and they could give the answers, did we receive those answers? like that raw data from the public, whatever were the comments when they could open the survey in their computers. Because I don't remember receiving that information. I didn't read the comments of the people.

So I don't know if we got those. So we gave the summary version. We condensed all the data and provided the combined results from the 400 plus respondents. If you wanted to see the individual respondents, we'd have to go back and see if that's something that's still available.

OK, precisely. So we don't receive the comments. We don't have the raw data. So we don't know what the people were saying. We have to rely on whatever was the process, how you guys processed the data. Another thing, the focus group. What was the process to choose who was going to be part of the focus group?

So for the focus group, we opened an online interest form. And so we received 71 applications. Of those 71, we had criteria to choose the participants. We selected 13.

One second. Who established that criteria? I'm sorry? Who established the criteria to select the participants? Staff did. The staff did, like you guys did? Yes. OK.

Um, so you established the criteria you decided who was going to be part of the focus group and then once it was selected we sent the list to the City Commission both all of the people who submitted interest forms and Those that we had selected and we asked the Commission if you had any objections or concerns We took that feedback and then we selected the final people on the focus groups

Yeah, basically it was decided by you guys because I could not add somebody that I wanted to put in there. So we didn't have a set.

We provided that opportunity.

Well, I remember seeing the list. We had that conversation here a few years ago. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was in 2023 when we were having those.

2024.

Oh, 2024. OK. Because they started working on January 2024. That was one of the first meetings, correct? OK. I remember seeing the list, and I remember having that conversation, because if we don't have part of the process, then it can be that like-minded people were chosen for this. On top of that, I spoke to the developer or the land owners. the biggest land owners of that area. And they expressed their frustration. They said that they had courtesy calls with the staff and with the consultant, but they were not part of the conversation. So we are here opening ourselves to big liabilities when we might or may not infringe on the property rights of the owners of these parcels. So once again, the process, we don't receive the data. We don't know how much it costs. We don't know exactly. It should be out there who is the people who participate and who are the people in these focus groups. The people more impacted economically is not a part of the conversation. So I cannot support this. I don't believe unless we have all the information available and the stakeholders are part of the conversation that we should be creating these type of plans. If anything, we are just opening ourselves to big liabilities. So I'm not in favor of this vision.

Mr. City Manager, just for clarification, because we've had quite a few meetings about this and we received lots of data and we were given the opportunity for input as well as providing our recommendations for the focus group. Can you just clarify for the record, because I know this has been a very long process and although we did go through an entire presentation right now that clarified exactly when we had the meetings, if you can please just quickly summarize so that we can get clarity.

Yeah, I think I explained some of this in the workshop, but the process that we're going through is part of a procedure that we need to go through to correct some inconsistencies in the code. So it's part of the legal process in order to get where we want to be should the commission decide to change the code. The entire process from start to finish has been open, transparent. Everybody has been involved. Everything's been approved by the commission. Our staff and planning experts who have the specific expertise to bring it forward have been brought to you, and I think you've been shown that tonight. So I don't think there's anything further regarding it.

Commissioner Lama?

Yeah. Yeah, it's been a long process. I do respect and like the feedback from the residents. I'm in agreement with the vision and with the comments from my colleagues here. And I just hope, because there's a lot of... factors that need to be completed so this vision can be implemented. Obviously, there's property holders there. You have RK, which owns a lot of the commercial property in that area. You have Desert as well. And I think that we as a city are going to have to work very hard to be able to translate this into our LDRs. and be able to bring this to fruition because we already had a vision in place already and it went nowhere. So this is the first step. I like it. I agree with it. And I hope it can be implemented. I just think that we need to be very steadfast and be able to you know, implement what the residents have asked for, the feedback they've given us, because I think it will be something that will balance, you know, walkability, pedestrian safety with a residential aspect and like an entertainment aspect that will be more in line with what other cities have done, like Doral, Dania, and some other municipalities that there's development there, but you don't feel like the development is on top of you. choking the oxygen like it is sucking the oxygen out of the municipality of the city so i hope that this this really comes to fruition i am in agreement like i said before but i think it's going to take a lot of work and i hope that we and other commissions that follow us because this is not going to be implemented not in five years not in six years not in 10 years so i i Pray and hope that the people that follow us will be able to implement this. And that the stakeholders, the property owners, and everybody that is involved in this understands that this is for the good of the entire community.

Okay. Nice, Mayor. Do you have something to add? No. Okay. All right.

Mayor, if I could just add one comment. So Mrs. Slavin has provided you some language that they wanted to add to the, I spoke with her earlier or communicated with her earlier that I object to the language and I recommend against it. It's a hard no for me. But I just wanted to put that on the record so when you do read it and consider it that my recommendation is no.

Okay. OK. And to Alex's point, we are approving a 20-year plan vision. We should allow them, the new commission, to do this. In a few months, the majority is not going to be here. And they should be the ones making this decision. If not, we can put this in a referendum and let the people speak. So basically, it takes a majority of three people just to decide what is the vision of the city. The point is that I read it all. And we are not basically challenging anything. Again, when we don't even know how much this is costing us. So we don't have the full information. And we've been in this process, it's true, for many, many years right now. But we're still not there. So I just don't know without information, without being a clear process. Like always, my issue is not with the product. It's with the process. To say that it's being very transparent doesn't make it transparent. Like I said, I have people here that they send me their comments that they put in the survey, and we never read those. So there is some people like to read it. Other people don't like it. But I would like to see what is the people giving us as their comments on the surveys. And that was not presented to us. I just cannot find a way to justify a vote for this. When we wait for so long, we can wait a little bit more and have a bigger conversation. Nobody, nobody, and we all go through elections and campaigns, wants to see big buildings on the west side of Collins. I think that is said and done in the minds of the majority of the people of Sunny Isles Beach. There is a lot of issues. And like I said, the people that is going to get more impacted by this were not part of the conversation. So I cannot support this.

Okay. Thank you. I'll take a motion. I'll make a motion. Second? Second. Okay.

All in favor?

Aye. No. Okay. All right. So this concludes this meeting. Are we okay just to stop and keep going?

No, Mary, I need a few minutes. Okay.

So we'll take a five-minute break. Don't go away, please. Meeting adjourned. And we'll start our actual commission meeting in five minutes. Thank you.