Board of Aldermen - Regular Meeting

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all for all. Mayor Kim is out of the state and so you got me acting as uh president of the board as the mayor promp tonight. So uh I apologize if I make too many mistakes. Uh, Pam, can I have a roll call, please? Mayor Kim, here. Alderwoman Dobs here. Alderman Becky here. Alderman Donovan here. Alderman Huey here. Alderman here. Alderman Ross here. Alderman Prince here. Alderman Stiger here. We have a quorum.

Thanks, ma'am. Uh, we're going to move on to certifications of election results. Agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, yeah, I'm sorry. Approval of the agenda. Motion to approve. I'll second whatever. Prince seconds. All those in favor of approval of the agenda. I I opposed passes. Uh now we'll move on to the certification of election results. Um I won't read the results, but we had four alderman run unopposed and they were all uh elected. So at this time uh we will have uh Pam Meer, our city clerk, and the four alder persons that won their election please stand. And uh

yeah, you should uh uh accept the certification of election results first. Do we have uh uh it's just a a motion? Second. Okay. Uh I'll entertain a motion to accept the certification election results. Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Passes. Now I'll have uh city clerk please stand and the four alder persons also stand. Just raise your right hand and repeat after me. I state your name. Ionovan do solemnly swear domly swear that I possess all the qualifications that I possess all the qualifications prescribed by law prescribed by law for the office of alderman for the office of alderman of the city of St. Genevie Missouri

of the city of St. of Missouri that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the State of Missouri and the State of Missouri. The provisions of all laws of the state of Missouri the provisions of all laws of the state of Missouri affecting cities of the fourth class affecting cities of the fourth class and the ordinances of the city of St. Genevie Missouri and the ordinances of the city of St. Genevie, Missouri. And I will faithfully demean myself in the office of alderman. And I will faithfully demean myself in the office of alderman of the city of St. Genevie, Missouri. of the city of St. Genevie, Missouri. For which I was elected on the 7th day of April, 2026. For which I was elected on the 7th day of April, 2026.

Congratulations. Good day. Congratulations. Uh, we will do a new roll call for the new members. Uh, Pam, if you would please do a new roll call. Alderman Stiger here. Alderman Prince here. Alderman Ross here. Alderman here. Alderman Huey here. Alderman Donovan here. Alderman Fehey here. Alderman Dos here. We have a another forum.

Excellent. Uh, we'll move on to presentations and awards. We have a proclamation for Arbor Day that I would like to read. Um, Arbor Day proclamation office of the mayor, city of St. Genevie. Whereas in 1872, the Nebraska Board of Agriculture set aside a special day for the planting of trees. And whereas this holiday called Arbor Day was first absor observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska. And whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world. And whereas trees can reproduce reduce the erosion of our precious top soil by wind and water, cutting heating and cooling cost, moderate the temperature, clean the air, produce life-giving oxygen, and provide habitat for wildlife. And whereas trees are a renewable resource, giving us paper, food or wood for our homes, fuel for our fires, and countless other wood products. And whereas trees in our community increase property values, enhance the economic vitality of business areas, and the beauty of our community as a whole. And whereas trees wherever they are planted are a so source of joy and spiritual renewal. Therefore, uh given by the mayor, Brian Kai, mayor of the city of St. Genevie, uh we do hereby proclaim Friday of of April 24th, 2026 as Arbor Day in the city of St. Genevie. And I urge all citizens to celebrate Arbor Day and to support the efforts to protect our trees and woodlands. And further, I would urge all citizens to plant trees to gladden the heart and promote the well-being of this and future generations. Given by the hand of the mayor, Brian Kai. Uh, and then I would also like to do um another uh recognition um in honor of Arbor Day. Um the city of St. Genevie would like to extend its sincere appreciation to the St. Genevieve County Master Gardeners for their continued dedication and volunteer efforts throughout our community. Their work has played a vital role enhancing the beauty

of our streets, sidewalks, and public spaces, creating a more welcoming and vibrant environment for residents and visitors alike. Their commitment to stewardship and beautifification is truly valued and goes and does not go unnoticed. Representing the master gardeners here with us tonight, if I could have you guys please stand. you ladies, uh, Kate Hamler, Sharon Grass, and Helen Helen Door. Please stay standing for the rest of my uh, uh, no. Uh, to celebrate Arbor Day and recognize these contributions, the city in partnership with the Master Gardens will be planting a nine bark shrub at Gage Park next to next Tuesday morning at 10 a.m., weather permitting. This planning serves as a symbol of growth, community pride, and our shared commitment to preserving and enhancing our natural surroundings. And lastly, the city would also like to acknowledge and thank the master gardeners in downtown St. Genevieve for their collaborative efforts in raising funds to improve Sarah's garden. Uh, in support of this initiative, Sarah's Garden is the location down by Sarah's Ice Cream on the corner of uh Maine and uh Merchant. So, and you can look up on the board and you'll be able to see kind of where that's at and kind of a diagram of what the new Sarah's Garden is going to look like. Uh, in support of this initiative, the city has set aside $6,000 towards these enhancements uh in also conjunction with downtown St. Genevieve, the Master Gardens, and several other organizers. Combined with these funds raised through their partnership, these improvements will include the installation of a new roof on the existing pergola structure, the addition of new plantings and outdoor decor, and the extension of electricity to support future enhancements. This project reflects what can be accomplished when community members come together with a shared vision for preserving and improving our public spaces. Our thanks go to the uh master gardeners and downtown St. Jen. I'd get a w round of applause FOR THESE THANK YOU LADIES. If

so, can we get a picture? Absolutely. I take it even though it's looks fancy.

Yeah. Put the rose between the thorns. That's right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, ladies. Thank you so much. We're going to get you a copy of this. Thank you, ladies.

That's for Yes. Uh moving on to our next uh agenda item is personal appearances. I don't think we have any of those. Uh our next agenda item is city administrators report.

Good evening everyone. You have a updated report at your seat. I want to go over a few things. Uh we held the bid opening for Creston Cemetery expansion last Thursday. We had four bids. Uh, three of the four bids came in under the uh cost estimate, so that was good. Uh, I'll have a recommendation for you at the May 14th meeting. Uh, Joker's Inc. actually began the waterline project this past Tuesday. Uh, there's some street cuts along most of Lehei. Uh, but they will complete uh, in the future they will complete Lehei and then move on to Oakwoods. I'm sorry, Oakwood. Bowman's will begin mill and pave work around mid June. uh in 2024 2025 we conducted an extensive study of our water and sewer system. If you remember that was uh getting great rates.com I believe uh Mr. Carl Brown came in and did a wonderful job of explaining that report. That report detailed our off our efforts to bring water and sewer revenues in line with our operational and maintenance costs. Uh water and sewer rates are scheduled for a 4% increase this year. So, I wanted to let you know there'll be a public hearing posted in the paper for our May 28th meeting. Uh, I will be out of town uh Tuesday afternoon through Friday next week at the MCMA conference. And then wanted to update you. We've been having a uh meetings with MLC Union Pacific uh their rail servicesers and Congressman Jason Smith's office to try and resolve the train noise issue along North Main Street. Uh, Alderman Fehee and Alderwoman Dobs have been sitting in on those meetings. MLC believes one of the issues is their contractor, so they will not be renewing the contract with Road and Rail and have contracted with RJ Corman to perform their rail car switching beginning May 18th. MLC and RJ Corman uh committed today to work together to try and convince Union

Pacific to allow them to use the tracks north of the rail yard. So, that's really the heart of the problem here. They used to do all that work north of the rail yard. Union Pacific places the derailer that they can't go past now at the north end. So, they have to do all their work south of there. So, they've committed to try and working with UP to change that back. Uh MLC and R.J. Corman also committed today to try and work more diligently to keep the railway and the grounds that they lease in better shape. We're going to give you that information. So, we're not 100% to where we'd like to be where the train switching is happening where it used to, but I believe we've got two willing partners now. Alderwoman Dobs, you agree? I agree.

We're on the right track. Did they ever give a reason why they moved it so far south? That's a public. There's no reason given from Union Pacific, but Union Pacific has told them Union Pacific did the work before Road and Rail. They did all the work north of the railard. When Road and Rail took the contract, the derailer was moved to basically the floodgate. So all the work had to be done south and they currently refuse to move the derailer and uh I do not know a reason. Yeah, we don't know why. So this is a big part up's doing. My understanding is yes. Yes.

I also want to thank Congressman Jason Smith's office. They've been helping us through the process and I believe will continue to help us. Uh, I will be also taking the day off tomorrow, but I will be available via phone. Any other questions for our city minister?

Um, staff reports. Um, Alliance Water Cory letters, please.

Good evening. You have a copy of my report on your desk. Um, we'll touch base. Uh, Dennis and I went up and looked at the truck. uh earlier this week. Um seems to be real good condition. Um everything we looked at crawled all around the thing. No leaks. Um everything looked good. We took it for a drive. Seem to said everything seems good on it. It's uh being inspected right now. They do about 5day inspection. I'd say probably 30 to 40 point inspection. Dave forward to uh list to Dave and uh so that should be done possibly tomorrow if not Monday and then besides that Metroid they did show up last week and they land applied roughly 400,000 gallons of bioolids into the farmer's fields about it. So you guys got any questions?

Yep. Your first item potholes repair. Is that a number uh you plan on I mean I know we have less of them since the paving project and stuff but um I got a couple areas and stuff where we're seeing some I call it spalling and stuff where you'll see an area might be five or six foot in diameter and it's all hairline cracked in there. A lot of times I'll see water sitting in there and I know eventually but I mean what's the fix for something like that? We we'll go in there and cut all that out. And then we're waiting on a hot mix, which Bowman is making hot mix. I found out last week during our meeting. So, yeah, their uh their hot mix seems to be more consistent than um lead belt materials.

And any potholes that anyone sees, citizen, alderman, or otherwise, you can report to city hall or report a concern. Cory gets those emails. Are you going to stay for the work session for the debris yard disposal session? Okay, I don't know if you want him. Okay, good. I think that's it. Thanks. Thanks.

Uh, Lieutenant Pollock, if you give the police report. Good evening everybody. You guys have a copy of our report or our stats? Have any questions? Any questions for Thanks, sir. All right. Thank you. Uh Aaron Smith, Tourism Department,

everyone. Sorry I missed last uh meeting I was in home in Louisiana checking on my dad. Wanted to say welcome back to Alderman Ross. Good to see him back in the chair.

Good to be back. Uh wanted to give a big shout out, a big thanks to everyone who voted for the transient tax. Uh that passed 56% 44%. Have to give alderman Stiger a a big uh comeuppance for for helping with that. He was really the the big push that got us over the hump there. So, thank you so much for being involved in that. Alderman Styer, uh the IG, it says we're awaiting on that, but as of yesterday, uh the IGA was signed by the county. So that makes the city's tourism tax commission the governing body of that tax and budgeting that money out. Um and to that effect, we have submitted our first uh uh state grant that has an increase uh based on that tax which was the MMG. Uh we went up from uh well we're looking at going up from 60,000 to 90,000 this year. Uh and that plan will include streaming commercials on Peacock. So very excited about that. Um you see in the report I have uh some place AI data. I'm trying to give a quarterly update on that. But uh there are some great uh news in that um in that report. Uh it shows uh for Q1 of 2026 uh we are up 24% in visitation over Q1 of 2025. Very excited about that number. Uh with that, unique visitors are up 10%. So last year, we saw a 2% dip in visitor tours, unique visitors. Um so far this year, we're up 10% over Q1 of last year. Visit duration is up significantly. You can see that bump there as well. And we are seeing an uptick in visitors uh in the income bracket like plus $100,000, $150,000. So that's also very positive. Uh we have our first journalist trip coming. I'm going to interrupt you real fast. Um

that's a significant rise uh rest of of the board. Um you don't see those upticks and and that goes credit to all the partners and and Aaron uh working on this plan and and putting this together. I don't know if he's he's probably going to talk about his marketing plan, but um that is a huge increase and you're starting to see people in the downtown area and the marketing and the effort that he's putting is working and this new uh transient tax is only going to bolster that uh effort. So, this is this is really good news,

right? I I didn't include a report, but I have kind of a you know what what we did in 2025, what's new in 2026 and where our new spending is and then what it's going to look like in 2027. And to see this kind of uptick where we are right now, you know, our our uh influencer visits haven't really launched yet. We get our first one this weekend uh from our uh partnership with Jasper Paul in St. Louis. Uh she's a journalist um who writes for uh Midwest uh living uh as well as some national publications like Travel and Leisure magazine and things like that. Um she'll be here this weekend uh Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Um she'll be staying at the Main Street in um and uh yeah, I'm really excited. I think that is where we uh will thrive because influencers come, they go on an itinerary, they take pictures, they take video, they show people what they did while they were here and that's where St. Jen I think really shines. Um and also just the beauty of the town will really really uh come through. Um spoke with a representative of American Cruise Line. In fact, Heidi Walker here got me in touch with uh him. Uh he was very excited about St. Genevie. called us the the Natches of the middle Mississippi. So, I thought that was very uh flattering. Um and uh I think there's been a narrative that we would not be able to park a cruise ship on any of our docks or at the fairy landing, but he seems to think different. So, I'm in talks with American Cruise Line to see if we can get them to park up by the ferry landing and spend about three to four hours here in St. Jen. So, uh that would be pretty cool. Um

what do you think a cruise ship like that would hold? two or 30 hundred people. I have no clue at this point. Yeah, some of them are upwards of 800 and stuff. They're different. I get their mailers all the time.

Well, and American Cruise Lines bought American Queen and I think American Queen is the biggest of the cruise ships as well. So, um that's very cool. Um we have our first proof of a new brochure. So, we're going to be replacing uh all of the uh pamphlets and things like that that they we give at the welcome center with a 15page brochure that really highlights everything in the town, has all of the town maps on the inside, and this should be evergreen. We shouldn't have to uh change it up every year. Uh but with that, um with once we get that brochure in the welcome center, that will complete our 5-year marketing plan in just two years. Um so, I I think that's incredible. you know, that's website, that's new brand, that's asset procurement, that's uh I think we had rack cards and uh and a new map, but instead we we went for a 15-page brochure instead. So, we kind of up the ante on that. Um, and I think we now we're starting to see for 2027, we'll have a really holistic tourism program with no gaps in what we offer or how we um pull people in. Uh, and I'm very excited about that. Uh, some other just exciting uh, quips that aren't in here but have come ac across my radar the past couple of days. Uh, went to the port authority meeting yesterday. Uh, Illinois is renewing their $88,000 pledge for the ferry. Um, so yeah. Uh, so she will be uh, running for uh, for the foreseeable future. In that uh we've pushed the uh port authority uh to create a new ferry website uh a new way for visitors to you know a new trusted source of information for people to uh look at the website and see is the ferry running first of all um you know make sure that update is is there but also um that's pretty much the main thing but also talk about kind of the regional

French heritage tourism that we have. So very excited about that. We're also talking about uh point of sale or uh online ticketing uh instead of just cash um uh transactions down there. So that is something that is coming as well and I think that will revolutionize uh the ferry and hopefully uh drive more ridership. Uh and then the last page is just some anecdotal uh evidence that I've been getting. You know, I like to mix uh sort of the data with what people in town are thinking. So, I've got some really nice little writeups that people have sent me talking about different different facets of uh the tourism program working for them. So, questions, concerns? I don't have any questions, but I just comment Aaron and stuff. uh after being on this board for a number of years and I mean my ward's not quite as involved in the tourism as you know wart one but um you know back many years ago it was kind of hard to go to the taxpayers and ask them to spend their hard-earned dollar for tourism and we went through a number of people in that position um which minimal results and stuff but now with you on board and I just basically it's a comment to you and what you're doing. Um, I really feel confident in in tourism and where we're going and uh even though we've looked hard for numbers in the past of where it pays off and there's been considerable talk about that and stuff, but now we're starting to see the benefit, but uh my hats off to you and what you're doing and I appreciate uh the hard work and I think we're all going to benefit from it.

I love this love this job. I love this town and it's a it's a very special place to be. So, just don't plan on going anywhere. I'm trying not to. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, Aaron. Uh, last the staff courts will move to public comments. Uh, we have any public comments, please identify yourself for the record and please try to keep your comments to five minutes.

Hi everyone, my name's Heidi Walker. Um, I wanted to say thank you Aaron for your work, you know, with the Port Authority and encouraging them to keep the ferry up and running. Thank you to the board for recognizing Arbor Day and the Master Gardeners. I think that's really wonderful. And thank you for uh all the work you do. I know it's a lot of work. And thank you for addressing the the railroad situation. It's very loud. Um, I know that four alder persons who were sworn in tonight and congratulations on being reelected. And I just wanted to kind of explain why we keep coming to these meetings. It's not to harass you guys. It's really not. Um, we want to keep coming because we want the conversation around 287G and immigration enforcement to keep going. We don't want it to fall by the wayside. Uh we want to be a visible and consistent reminder that this community cares for its immigrant neighbors and that we will hold the local systems accountable for their well-being and safety. We also show up to encourage transparency in the future when there's decisions like this being made. And I hope that we will be considered and our viewpoints will maybe maybe even be asked for or welcomed. Um, and I just wanted to remind the board that uh you represent us, your constituents. And with this in mind, I would like to know cuz I I stand up here twice a month and talk at you guys, but I would like to know your personal views on it. I know you can't respond of course, but I do invite you to maybe write something for the paper or um a short editorial or letter to the editor that would let us know how do you feel about it personally and what are your thoughts and just to

clarify your stance on the subject of immigration enforcement in St. Genevieve and not to forget the detention of immigrants in our detention center. Uh that's the other reason I come here twice a month is because I don't want the 150 160 people that are sitting over there to be forgotten. Their mothers and daughters and sons, grandparents sitting over there without due process and um without any criminal charges. And so when I come up here, I'm really not trying to harass you cuz I know you guys do a great job and you you do a lot of hard work. But I just want us to remember them. And if that means me coming up here and talking twice a month, I hope you will continue to be accepting and patient with us. But that's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you. My name is Sandra Murzy and you think much better than I do. If you recall, I was here a couple of months ago and I was pretty upset coming from Minnesota where Miss Goody and Mr. prety was shot and by ICE agents and I was carrying my passport in my purse and I'm still doing it because I'm still upset just in case. But the reason I want to talk to you today is about your conscience because I'm not making personal comments about any of you. You've all got your own conscience. But it's the one there even a song about it. Um, Gay, Marvin Gay, he's saying, "Let your conscience be your guide." Um, I'm

originally a South African and I know what racism is. As a white person, it was very easy. It was different if you were Indian or Chinese or um, Zulu or Koa. They were all different. Or if you could be colored skin, that means you've just got a little bit of color in you. and I was white, so it was really kind of nice. I got it by real easy. And um Nelson Mandela at the time we moved over here, he was not released from prison. And my my son was born and I was so afraid that he would u be sent to national in South Africa. every guy had to sign up for the army and I hated racism and that was part of the reason I told my husband, okay, he's an American, we'll come back to Minnesota uh to Minnesota. And um in turn, my I I wanted none of the racism. So, it took me a while and then I realized I was a pacifist and I I'm opposed to guns and war and all that kind of stuff. I don't like it. But after 9/11, my son joined the army and dang, I had to be supportive. How can you not be supportive if a kid is in the army? And so I swallowed my pride and I supported him as best I could. And almost immediately after training, he was sent over to Afghanistan. And as a pacifist with a kid with a gun, I I I didn't know what to say. And I had just one thing to say. Um, you have to live with your conscience. Whatever you do, live with your conscience. And I'm asking all of you, whether you're alive now or if you there's no heaven and hell

or if you die, whatever it is, if you have a conscience, live with it. Because that's the only thing you can explain what's going on. Conscience. Live with your conscience. whatever you do. Thank you.

Any others?

Bob Brownie, 498 merchant. I'd like to make a comment on what was said about our police department. I believe it was Heidi that said it. And when she said it, she looked right at the chief of police that they were taking kickbacks for mice. I think she crossed the line when she made that statement. I mean, I believe she lieled the police department. And another thing that keeps coming up is all these immigrants that's in the county jail. If they wouldn't broken the dang law, they wouldn't be there. So, that's all I got to say. Thank you. Hi, I'm Darwin Muzzy, resident of St. Genevie. It's curious, you know, we've hired or we've re reelected four alderman and um we don't know what their stances were on this um constitutional police department versus the loyalist uh ICE department. And this contract seems to make that connection between those two. And once you make that connection, it's it's you're no longer a constitutional police department. And um I guess my concern is is that um you start getting all these thoughts in your mind about how you want to present this. But I I think these four aldermen were were reelected unopposed. And if if we knew what their views were uh prior to the election, maybe they wouldn't have been opposed. Maybe there have been another candidate. And I think

we need to um be more open about where we're at in in our decision- making. And I think I I would like to call the council to make some kind of vote of support or against uh the contract that's been implemented without uh public consent. So thank you.

Any more public comments? My name is Asa Lemons. I'm a resident of St. Genevie. As you can see, I don't have any speech with me today. Uh, it's been a busy two weeks. I got exams coming up. I go to college for nursing. I been a little preoccupied. The I try to take these speeches that I make on a bi-weekly basis. I rigorously study and try to craft them in a way that's productive in a manner. and I don't know articulates my view. I I just uh it makes me I don't know a little sad in a bit to I don't know come up here every two weeks and come at this approach this with like a genuine love for my community, a love for St. Jen and a love for my neighbors and the prospering of St. Jen and being voraciously opposed to things I think are bad or are morally repugnant. And it's just it's just a little saddening every two weeks to come up here every time and then deliver these points constructively, respectfully. And and I'm not saying that you guys agree or disagree like like we had those um initial comments from Brian Kim. I believe it was the February 12th board of alderman meeting. It was either the fir um and after that I gave a very long speech. That thing was like 9 minutes. That that was crazy. Uh but I wanted to fully elaborate everything all in one little bit just so there wasn't like a hole to poke in the argumentation of the logic or whatnot. I think but after those initial comments from Brian Kim uh the mayor uh we haven't really heard anything and it's just I don't really

know what tone to take because I don't cuz he said that you guys don't support what went on in Minneapolis. Obviously, the I I I would hope we can all agree on that the killings of US citizens Alex Prey and Renee Good in the street in broad daylight were overreaches by ICE. And I think so I I think we can find a common ground on that. I just I I concur with Heidi behind me that I we want to hear your opinion. We want to hear what you have to say because after I spoke on the mayor's comments and said why that doesn't answer our concerns, it's kind of just been radio silence since then. And I don't really know how to approach that. I've never done anything like this before. I've never got up on a podium and spoke to politicians and whatnot and aldermen and went to the the county commissioners meetings and spoke to them and whatnot. I've never done anything like this. So, I I guess I'm just up here to say that I would respectfully like the uh 287g contracts terminated and I would like as well to hear uh Heidi's questions answered or hear a public statement from your guys on your stance on this issue. So, there can be a little bit of a back and forth because like we are part of St. Genevie. We are your constituents. We get up here every two weeks. We don't get paid to get up here. And we want to, I don't know, have a back and forth with you guys, have something like know what's going on. And that's about all I had to say. So, thank you for that. Thank you for listening. Anyone else for public comments?

I see no others. We'll move on to the consent agenda. Motion to approve. Second. All those in favor of passing the consent agenda. Opposed. Agenda passes. Moving on to old business. Bill number 4718. An ordinance of the city of St. Virginia, Missouri, authorizing the city administrator to execute a contract for auditing services with Biznik Hay Row and Stroer LLC certified public accountant. Second reading. Motion to approve. Second. Pam, can we have a roll call vote? Alderman Stiger. Yes. Alderman Prince. Yes. Alderman Ross.

Yes. Alderman. Alderman Huie. Yes. Alderman Donovan. Yes. Alderman Fagy. Yes. Alderman D. Yes. Eight. Yes. Zero nos. Bill number 4718 now becomes ordinance 4638. Excellent. Moving on to new business. Uh appointment of city clerk. I will take a I would love to see a motion uh to approve the appointment of our city clerk. I'll make that motion. Second. Second. There's a second. Motion and a second. Pam. There's two people that Is it me? That's the motion. Okay. point you is uh all those in favor

I motion passes congratulations congratulations absolutely yes and I will give you a round of applause you're the glue that keeps it all together so we appreciate that so uh moving on to resolution 202632 resolution appointing Robert Sullivan to the St. Genevieve Housing Authority Board. Motion approve. Second. Second. All those in favor? I

opposed. Motion passes. Thank you, uh, Robert, for sitting in on that board, sir. Uh, bill number 4719, an ordinance authorizing the mayor to enter in an intergovernmental agreement with St. Genev County to facilitate the efficient and effective administration of the county's tourism revenues. A question. Sure. Um, with only this being the first reading, this is not going to delay the collection of that tax or No, it's it's pretty far off. July or or October? That doesn't get started till July or do we find out what the July is what?

It is going to be July. Yeah. This this doesn't affect the collection of it. This has to do with uh them allowing the the city's TTC to to make decisions about spending with some oversight from the county. Motion to approve. Second. Uh there's a motion and a second to approve uh resolution 32. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. Bill number I'm sorry. Um that was bill number 4719. Um and we're going to move to bill number 4720, an ordinance authorizing the execution of a storm water drainage easement by and between the city uh progress point land strategy LLC.

So you have a new copy laying at your table. There's also copies out available in the audience. Uh there was some small language changes I believe in the first paragraph. Uh since we what's it called? Progress point Land Strategy LLC does not own the property yet, but they will uh that'll be McBride.

So the the the changes were at my request just to uh make it clear that it's the easement's only going to be granted and executed at closing. Um there's two issues with doing it now. One, you can't we'd be granting an easement to somebody who doesn't own the property yet. So this is an easement that will benefit the property that they're buying for the city. This is an adjoining lot. Uh and secondly, if you um conveyed an easement when you still own when you still own both lots, uh it it doesn't work that way. Basically, you have a merger of the uh of the estates. And so you have to wait till the closing anyway. So legally, so that those changes were the only ones made from the previous version. Just to make sure it's clear, this is going to be signed and executed at at the closing. When the city sells the other lot, we're going to grant this easement.

Any other questions on bill number 4720? Motion to approve. Second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Um, any other business to become before the board? Uh, mayor promp and board of alderman communications. Any of that? And there is an item two items for real estate that we would like to go into close session. Make a motion to go into close session to discuss real estate. Second. All those in uh favor, we'll do a roll call vote for close session for real estate. Alderwoman Dobs. Yes. Alderman FY. Alderman Don. Yes. Yes. Alman Huy. Yes. Alderman. Alderman Ross.

Yes. Alderman Prince. Alderman Stiger. Yes. Motion carries. 642. Yes. Would you like to talk about? Uh, no. Burn. Baby burn. Uh, Dave, I'll get you contract. Okay. Maybe he wants to be on a committee. Well, I guess I'll let you fill in. Okay. Um, but it'll be pretty simple contract. That's what I'm saying. I can fill it in or legal.

Well, do you need to have a number? I can send it to you tonight. Yeah, cuz we're want to specify. Yep. Okay. So, Prince made a motion to Well, the mayor just adjourns it. Yes. Um I I don't know how we will we will be adjourned for the uh regular meeting 7:08 p.m. and we will be called to order. Um looking for a motion to approve the agenda. Motion to approve. Second. All those in favor? I.

Any opposed? Okay. First item of business is city brush site. We'll start without uh Alderman Prince, but he will be here shortly for us.

So, you got my staff report there, which basically goes over what we just discussed last week. Those uh first set of bullet points are Chief Stiger's recommendations, though he did say in the meeting he does not really wish to shut down the site. And then my recommendation is to have this discussion. Um then continue with our current plans. We are going to order and post the sign though I have an update to that. Um place two cameras at the site once the sign and cameras are installed increase in uh patrol and enforcement. And then Cory and I have u discussed plans to haul away the existing debris and ash this fall early winter improve the burm. There's been discussion of putting a spark fence around the property also. That's going to have uh some more cost associated with it. Um, I'm not sure I'm a fan of that. Um, because I feel like we'll we'll eventually damage it by as we keep pushing and pushing and then we'll continue to haul away the debris annually after this year. When was the last time we think that it was hauled off?

I'm going to say 3 years. Every bit and it wasn't completely cleaned up. There was just a pile that was put out in the middle. We held that off. But I don't know if it's Last time it was Sunny G. He brought his eye look down there. We we ask whether we can do it ourselves. The old sign used to say something about not setting a fire. It's up to or the I'm trying to find I got a picture of it on. You have a picture of the old sign we've been searching for for 7 months. Why didn't he ask? I just got to find it here. No way. I'll remember. No way.

Sorry. It's all right. I should have sent the email out. So, you're on your issues. U ban commercial tree trimmers from using the site. I mean, are you, you know, are we going to I know there was talk about commercial tree trimmers that are paid to dispose of stuff bringing it in there. Are we going to ban those from coming in there? That is not my decision, but I'm not recommending it. Not recommending banning them. Mhm.

Well, I know it happened before and joking probably. They were bringing stuff in from other areas and when confronted, they said it was from here in town and we had no way to track it down. That well, one of the points that was happening. And that's a good point, too, because they probably do bring in the big stuff, right? You know, uh just like Chief Stiger was saying is, you know, they're not taking 36-in logs on the back of a half ton pickup. It's pretty hard for most people to get a big stump in the back of their truck. It's something that they're using um an excavator or a a skid steer or something special, right? Yeah. So, most of it you would think is commercially driven.

I will tell you, Officer Pollock and I were talking, you know, they have issued tickets and we actually sent uh an image of a vehicle that came in Creek Road and dumped last week to them and they will reach out. they'll run the plate and then reach out to that individual. Uh so I think with the cameras, we'll be able to enforce it better. The only reason I say that about the commercial is I mean I've probably had two dozen people reach out to me about this or talk to me about this and they would like it and these are city citizens to stay that way. But that is not my decision. Leave it open or close it to commercial? Open. that they're city residents. They're tree trimmers that want to dump there.

No, these are just regular city residents. And and I the flip side of that argument that I just made is that they will increase their rates. So, it's going to cost our citizens more to use a commercial tree trimmer cuz they're just going to raise their rates to cover the cost if uh of hauling it off someplace in the county. Hey, Dave. Yes, sir. Uh just for the record, Dave, um Gary Roth is the one that made that sign. and he printed it out himself and and made it. He has he has no record of any image or what it said or a piece of paper or should be on his computer. He has no image or record. Well, I'll have to I know I got it on here somewhere.

That would be tremendous. Um I want to throw one more I'm going to call it a kink. I'm going to throw one more idea at you. So, in our discussions with MLC and RJ Corman today to try to come up with some ideas to eliminate train noise while they're working on the coupling and trying to get that push back north, um they did say that if we would have um hours of the brush tight, so let's say it would be closed dust to dawn and we would put a barricade down there. they don't have to uh blow

blow the whistle overnight because right now that's too long a short and a long every time they go by division street. So, if the if this sign were to say, you know, closed dust to dawn, and I'm not sure of the logistics of putting barricade. Yeah, we have a public airfield down there. Is that public airfield going to be used dust to dawn? On the FAA charts, so it's there. It's just an it would prevent the whistle being blown over. I think the airplane will hear the train horn anyway. Yeah. Well, no. I'm saying somebody enters or lands the airplane coming in here or whatever

and they want we have bicycles down there. They want to take a bicycle and ride into town to get dinner. The road's closed. That's the get their plane to take off and never come back. And we're expecting more of that this year where I belong to the airfield dinner and we we're in with an association of rural aviators that come and do events at Grass Airfields, you know. So they land at night without lights and drive a bicycle. Well, they come they spend the weekend. No, but are there lights on that airport? No, but they land during the day. Then if you close this thing at at 5:00 or whatever it would be like night time.

Night time I'd be for that, but not during daylight. You know what I'm saying? What kind of barricade would you need? I think initially we just have a barricade, a large barricade, but you don't have to put on the main street side. What about the levy access? What about the arbon? And then we don't close it. I'm fine with that. Yeah. Who's going to be going? I like the idea. I want to figure out a Yeah. So, how do you how can you get to auto how can you get to the the wildlife area and the airport? Our parks have hours. Yes. Yeah. So, this would also have hours.

The airport throws a different kink into it, but I don't know. I I really am trying to honestly ask how much it gets used after dark cuz I kind of know what's going on. The wildlife area doesn't get used after dark either. So, Dustadon will be okay for the wildlife. And if you if you get there again, if you get Mopac to Oblau, are you going to get Burlington Northern? No. So, that's another thing that you should think about. Now, it's it's it's MLC's serer that does most of the work, but that does not mean BNSF will not be on the main line. That's coming. The main line will still operate. Yeah. Correct. That's still a big improvement. That be a huge improvement. It's going to be a huge improvement because they work back and forth putting those trains down.

Yeah. All night. The gentleman who met with us today from R.J. Corman, who I cannot remember his name, um but he said that there are also grants that R.J. Corman give for um arms. Now, this isn't like your $300,000 U me um system that's up here. This would just be an arm that goes down at night that we could put a timer on. In the meantime, though, it would probably just be a barricade. Yeah, that would be a great idea. Well, if you can go around it with a bicycle, that's Yeah, that's that's our concern. And somebody, you know, once wants and hiking and biking, I guess around pedestrian

can you travel across the top and go across the the pump station or not? You're not supposed to do that or Well, that's also supposed to be gated, but they're sign authorized vehicle. But yeah, that's another access. I mean, how far out towards traffic down there? Did you get out? Oh, yeah. That's a good question. How far out towards the public street can we put these signs? I mean, you know, the closer we can get out to the main road there, the more deterrent it's going to be rather than if they get all the way back home. My plan would be to put one at Main Street and one at the dump site.

Yeah, we never had one at Main Street before, just at the actual dump site. But I still, you know, this commercial thing I these people are charging I, you know, they're charging them to haul this stuff off. If they drop the stuff and leave it there is one price. If they haul it off as another price they're getting paid, you know, can we permit them? Can we issue a permit to them to dump there if they're commercial and they can tell us it's in town? I mean, I we just need to have some control over these tree trimmers or I'm telling it it was a problem in the past and it'll be a problem again.

Well, that's going to involve having police department down there all the time though. I mean, you'd have to watch it all the time if you're if we prohibit commercial. If you prohibit commercial, it's going to be a lot easier to monitor cuz they're going to they're going to new cell phone cameras you can link to anybody's cell phone. Yeah. And multiple cell phone. My vote is to limit them. I might What was their argument for allowing commercial entities to still dump down there? Who is their argument? The citizens that you said wanted

they that their bill is going to go up that um if these guys are working in their yards and they're hauling it down and they don't have a truck. Um those kinds of things. Yeah. The trees came from the city. You know, you gained a mattress down there, too. There's two two now. Yeah, there's one this morning, so we have two now. Well, one was out front. One was a little farther back. But yeah, these these cameras are going to help. I I believe they're going to help a lot. Yeah. Alman, Don, are you okay? we move forward now and just try it for a couple months and see how we're in the prime season for it. So, we'll see how

Yeah. I mean, I think there needs to be some regulation on the commercial. Either permit them, you know, make them come in and get a permit of some kind. It's a written piece of paper, sign it saying they guarantee their stuff is from the city only. Uh, and not call in from out of town. I mean, we can't police it or check the trees to see where they came from or the debris, but some control to disturb them from just falling in there with whatever. But what if we have because I know we did in the past, Joe, and then you talked about when we put up this the cameras down there, it kind of stopped it, but it should be they should have to pay a a fee to use the dump as a commercial

or if you just had a registry that they had to register to to be able to dump there. Well, they should have a business license in the city. Well, that I'm just going to say a registry. No, no, no fee. just have to register that I'm going to be hauling the tree down there. I mean, I think So, we know if they have a business license in the city, they're dumping down there. I bet you none of them do, but I don't know. It's the It's the big ones. It's those limbs over 24. Yes. So, Alderman Donovan, when I walked by you, you said you had another idea. Well, of listing something on the sign, you know, about commercial.

Oh, okay. you know, uh, you know, whatever our decision is, if we're going to permit them, I think we do need to do that. But, uh, you know, commercial dumping by permit only, and they have to have a permit of some type. I mean, they should have the ability to split some of that wood so it's down below 24 in. You know, if you split that, that would help us a little bit. You know, we don't have those big 36 in. And you know, people used to come down and that's where they get their wood for their fireplace. I think sometimes they set up time for the

We used to have a cable across the bowl or what we do for what the if we decide to have the hours. I would try to add it through this. You're going to add it to it. I would need to hopefully know that tonight.

I think we're all I think lighting fires either. Let's go down here and separate, right? You think people light fires? But I think people light fires down here. Yeah, that it's been lit up several times overnight. I mean, not saying for so long today like you roll it off. It took off. People love That's what I'm saying. They might want to do it two signs on the same pole like underneath each other. One like the hours. You put too much on there. They're not going to stop and read it. That's what I'm saying. Two. That's what the problem with the old sign was. It was a damn book. Yeah.

Sorry. I mean, less on one side is better because it's just I mean, we're, you know, before we put these signs out, and I know you could say, "Well, no one's going to read any of it." We're going to put it on website. We're going to share it out on social media. We'll talk about it in a public meeting again. Uh, but I guess tonight, what I want to know is dust to dawn. We're going to close it dust to dawn. And we're going to So, we're we're in agreements. We're going to close it from dust to dawn. I think it needs to be definitely. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to add we're going to add no lighting fires and we're going to we're going to wait a few months to talk about the commercial entities. We okay with that? We wait a couple months. And what about the barricade? Well, we're going to we're going to put no dust to dawn. So then we can come back to if we can put up a barricade

and you're give us, you know, some time order the signs, all that jazz. This isn't going to be next week. I think the barricade needs to go up. I know. I'm still in favor of no commercial, but they used to have a cable down there at the entrance. Got something. I mean, it had to be somebody going down there to lock it, but I mean cuz even if the barricade or an arm comes down, people still came across the levy down. At this point, we're going have to talk too about how's the barricade. How's the fire department to get in there? Well, there you go. Doesn't Dennis just live on No, I mean the barricade before was right back. No, it was all the way down. No,

want to put one now. Can we start up first? We start putting the barricade up first, get everybody used to it, then the signs come in, or should we just wait for the signs, then do the barricade? I want to get the information out there that it's going to be closed. Uh, they could put down I do want to ask Alderman Huie a question. It's got an eye on it or something. Go ahead, Dave. Would you inform the airport? Well, we have campers down there now. Okay. They're down there. And I myself are planning to go down and take my camper down there this summer also. So, there's going to be night activity at that field. Okay. When you say activity, like camping, are there going to be coming in and out? Chance that. Okay.

Cuz we don't have we don't have facilities there. somebody wants to come out there to go up to the public restrooms and take a bike or I'm not going to ride a bike when I got a car sitting there. Right. Okay. And that is we have we have over 70 members down there. Okay. And it's open to each one of them if they want to camp out down there. That's that's that's part of your deal. So knowing that is everyone still okay with the dusted dawn? I mean at this point if it's a barricade and someone's trying to get out? We don't I think the the site itself has to be closed dusted on dawn. If we do the barricade, let's work through the barricade and figure that out. But we still are going to close the dump site from Dustadon, whether we use a barricade or not. So the sign can get made that the landfill itself is closed,

dusted, correct? I mean, is everybody okay with that? And then we can figure out if the barricade will work or not. Okay. So the barricade comes into play with the the train. That's right. Yeah, that'd be cool. Huge. Yeah. I don't know how their system works if it automated by the train or if it's key cards or electric. I mean, at this point, I'm just looking for is Corman switches their Corman switches their deal to the other end, the problem's gone. Problem a lot of it's gone. Agreed. But I'm not I I don't look for that to happen like right away. They're not starting they're not taking over till May 18th,

another month almost. and then they can start working their connections with UP and if it happens I would say you know well the reason they move late summer I've been around a lot of train derails and and uh Corman has got a very good rapport with UP they certainly act like when they something gets off Corman's on the road cuz I've hauled equipment to their derail sites and Corman is as one with up this gentleman was I mean he was pretty quick to say he was going to try to work us work this out. I'm saying he gave no guarantee. I've never seen road and rail on any up property at all, but I've seen Corman just take over on UP.

The main reason they moved it was when the floodgates are closed, then they lose access to that switching yard up there. So, if they could at least agree that while the floodgates are open, they use the top end, but then we allow them, you know, if the floodgates get closed for those month or two, you know, they can go back to switching down there. I mean, I think they'd be all right with it, but that's why it was moved from up there to down there. MLC and Road Rail have tried try and tried tried to get up and it's been dry for forever up there.

Well, yeah, but that's why it was originally moved. If when they can still switch cars when and then it became a maintenance issue. They're not going to maintain it if they're not using it anymore. So, they would have to bring it back up so that they can start using it again. But you know, every time the floodgates were closed, they couldn't switch cars out. Correct. Now they can still go the back way through Dodto and all that to Yeah. During a flood, they're going to have to do their work south. Yeah. And I think the citizens down there in W one, I think they would understand that, you know, like a natural disaster type deal.

Okay. So, no lighting fires, which is news to me, but thank you. And uh the yard way site is closed dust to dawn. We'll get two signs, two cameras, better enforcement plans this fall to clean it up and build a burm. What about the barricade? I baby steps. Let's get let's get some information from the airport and let's get some information from the wild. They have to for now it could be after the airport entrance. I mean, is it something that No, you can't do that with the barricade. Is it something that can be moved? Has to sit there on the track. Like I mean, if to eliminate the whistle.

Yeah, that's the only thing that's going to keep them from blowing that whistle. The tracks have to be barricaded off. So, you can't have it after the tracks. No, I'm sorry. I didn't know that was asked. Yeah, he said after the tracks. Well, I spokesman for recordade manually every night. Whole go on record is against it. Speaking for the airfield, we we don't want to do that. You're the train. Just you can't. No. Bring it back in a couple months. I think for safety issues even in the airfield, we got a camper down there and we have a 911 down there. What are we going to do? We're barricaded. Little fire. We should be able to move it. Yeah, it should be a movable barrier. What I'm thinking of right now. Yes. But if we move it and somebody gets hit,

but we we moved it. I think we're getting into a lot of hypotheticals. There's not a train going through every 5 minutes. It's every few hours. I mean years. So I'll bring the barricade back up maybe end of the summer. See how the results are. Is that okay? Um particularly alderman fee alder woman jobs. This is your ward. So I think people are going to be really happy. Don't you Patrick? Absolutely. We're it's in the Okay. The is important. We're on the right track. Okay. Which track? Track. Not the main line track. So to resolve the commercial company. How about this? What if you add that to it?

Maybe we can get a grant for an arm. I'll ask um I'll do some checking having license do it manually. What? We've already got a book going here. So what if we had commercial entity? Commercial must have license. It gives us a little bit more. Yes. At least a business license, you know, permit or something. And then they can and we can show them the rules and make them sign off for a business license and they're paying the city commercial by permit only for a business license for landing. Yeah. But if somebody if they have to have a business license, somebody comes in business.

Okay. We'll come back with more on the licensing. Exactly. I'm going to move on to the next uh item. Um the past few months, the following topics have been brought up at at in board meetings or by individual board members for consideration of changes for 26 and 27. Um, so we're looking at potentially creating uh committees of two or three members, mayor and alderman per topic. And the first one is um downtown holiday uh street decor. Um, and I think that's a good idea. And I think there'd be a couple members um that would like to be involved with that. Um, so the mayor is looking for a couple um alderman to join that committee.

I totally would. Okay. Okay. You got two. Anybody else want to? Uh, we'd like to have a third, but maybe the mayor might be the third. Um, okay. So, um, I would do in a heartbeat if the mayor doesn't. So, maybe we'll just wait and see if the mayor wants to do it. So, okay. Um, the next one, I'm not quite sure. Street department contracted services. Is this the bidding of jobs or No, this is Alliance's contract for street services. Oh, okay. Okay. I mean, I think I'm gathering some information and we're at that point that that contract up in October. All three water, sewer, actually four, streets, parks is up in October. I don't think I'm sorry.

Yeah, we're just doing streets only for this one or I did it before. Or is it all public work? I haven't heard any interest in changing anything water and sewer related. Um, but streets and parks we've talked about. I would involve it. I've did it before, so I'll Yeah, I don't mind. Anybody else want to be involved with that with contracting of street and parks services? Anybody else want to sit down on that? Okay, we'll see if the mayor wants to be the third. And then um I know uh the last one is um uh doing a contracted uh trash service, refuge services.

This is being brought up again. This is brought up three times already since I've been on the board and it keeps getting shot down. I will fight I will fight it 100%. You're you're one less alderman that was as opposed to it as you and I I don't know if it'll get shot down and I think it's I think it's as much as you're against it. I'm for it. Okay. So, you just said I was like texting my son to come pick me up soon. Um you're talking about trash, right? City like doing trash pickup. Okay. I was going to bring something up along that kind of issue there. Republic Service is doing away with her recycling.

Recycling. So, I had a citizen call me today and talk to me about how hard would it be for St. Genevieve to kind of maybe start like some type of recycling thing. I don't know what all we got to do. I don't know if we would be interested in that, but I've talked to Mr. Jerry about that. Um, I've sent some information out to some Boy Scout troops, but I I don't know that anyone's going to want to tackle a recycling citywide. The I haven't gotten any answers, but I haven't got any yeses. We contribute now to the county's recycling center of how many dollars a year? 5,000.

10. 10. Yeah. I mean, we pay for a recycling service. That's the biggest recycling service. I mean, Farmington has none anymore. They did away with theirs. Uh, but we have one of the best ones right here. Mhm. But that takes the most products. Yeah. Um, and tonight all I'm asking is if you want to form a committee, that's all. Yeah. Yes. Nope. I agree with Joe. I'm against it. 100%. You like you like tearing up the new streets. I like I should regulate. We should the size of the truck

it's been decided and they could not guarantee that they would have smaller trucks. So they're going to be using bigger trucks sending one big truck to do all of it when you have people like Freedom out there now with small trucks doing what they got and you're stifling the competition. But you have a single axle on with just as much weight as opposed to a double or a triple axle. So I mean we can argue the the weight all Yeah. The weight changes with the axle. single action,000. Perryville already does this. I know sever several towns that actually do this already and it it's worked out really well for them for talk to anybody lives in 20 years of

Okay, talk to anybody that works in or lives in Clayton or works in Clayton and had to deal with that uh town and country. Uh I can name so many that I've had to deal with personally when they went to a contracted service. It raises prices. It definitely raises. They promise you that it won't, but it does. And I can get a whole I can book this whole room full of people that will tell you it was undelivered promises and their rate rates went up and their service. I'll get just as many on the other side of the room who will tell you brought their prices down. Do we want to form a committee to talk about trash services? Thank you. Yes. Who wants to be on that committee? I won't be on it. And that you also uh please I'll do it.

Okay. That's really all I was after tonight. I um I will tell you since we're talking about it, we had to call two uh but we're sending letters to all it's been done. Yeah. Um of our carriers because they're starting at 4:30 and 5 in the morning. Um and they need to not start until 6. So we've gotten three complaints past week, two weeks. Three in that week and we had two from previous Yeah. What time is it? 6:30 6. So we have the ability to to regulate them. If we're going to regulate the time frame, then we have ability to regulate when they do their service. We do regulate when they do their service.

I thought commercial anytime. It was only residential was Well, I don't think we're going to get complaints if a commercial trash truck shows up on 61 at 4 in the morning. These are all in residential areas. Yeah. And it is loud. My trash comes about 6:30 in the morning. Okay. you know, to defend not doing the contract when we had uh basically one in town and stuff. We opened it up, more companies came around, prices dropped dramatically. Dramatically. Um when did we have a when did we have consolidated trash? Like you're talking about tutors. I mean, you going back to the day when we had just to have one, but that but there wasn't there wasn't we never had a contracted service.

No, we didn't. And basically it was one carrier and it was Republic. But that but that's just the way it was. I mean they now we have three or four for over 20 years. I know we had at least Waste Management and Republic that I've known of and then I got screwed over by DNR. Well, they took my money and Ray and didn't even pick up my trash once. We have a more heated discussion about garbage pickup and being in bed with ice. and we have I'm going to send an email to these three groups uh next week to organize these committee meetings. Thank you very much. That's all I have. Uh no other topics, but we have an item for other business. So, is there any other business that we want to talk about during work session?

Okay. See, I was close. Sorry, Sam. That was close. Dave, I had mentioned back some time ago of trying to require special use permits when we're cutting in driveways. Uh if I was in a resident and and we have one particular case and I guess it went through okay, but we cut between two residential houses, commercial driveways. If there's anything to me that should require a special use permit, that's that. I think what all uh Mr. Bishop said was that's not a special use, but we can require driveway permits.

I mean, but that is a special use of that property. I I don't remember him making it, but maybe I forgot. Yeah, that was and that's where it ended as far as I was concerned, but we can certainly do some more research. I would do that. Is that property zone commercial or is it still zone residential? That's zone residential. So, if you if it's zoned residential and you're using it for commercial use, do we have any It's a driveway across a residential lot that accesses a commercial lot on a commercial in a commercial zone or industrial zone probably. Yeah, both of them do. Right.

And they both went between residents. There was no road there before. That to me is it's got to require something. I would wouldn't want tractor trailers running between my house and somebody else and they're not re it's not reszoned and into commercial or industrial. No, it did not require reszoning. Since Cory's here, I have

Robert. Any two cents on that? Well, um, just off the cuff, the first problem you're going to have if those commercial trucks are allowed to go up and down the street and they pull on a private property, whether it's residential or commercial, it's private property. If they got easement from whoever, um, the only way we could I could see we could regulate it would would be through a special use permit. But the question then legally is going to become what how can we legally regulate that? even through a special use permit because it's private property and those trucks or vehicles are allowed to go anywhere else on public property up to that point. How can we regulate it other than how we already would with you know um that driveway being has to be so much feet separated from the next driveway. So there's some regulation for that so you don't end up with two driveways right next to each other uh causing a problem people pulling out can't see that type of thing.

It is a very weird instance but there's nothing to prevent the people who live in those homes from saying from driving their trucks on their residential lots and parking them or but what if one gives them the property and the other one doesn't? Then the one guy is ticked off because he's got the trucks there. The other guy's not. Again I all these hypotheticals. Yeah. Right.

But but there could be some things we could do in regards to that. Um as far as if that scenario that that exact scenario was to come up then we could do some uh you know get both parties to agree uh whether it's through a special use permit or whatever we want to call it. We can put stipulations on that for screenings and things like that to, you know, help with the visual when somebody comes down through there with a truck, that type of thing. We can put those in place with that method. But I don't see that coming up a lot, but soon as I say that, we'll have five in here tomorrow. Yeah.

So, one more issue being Cory's here and stuff. That's it. I promise. Uh we addressed a situation there on Market Street after we repaved Market 18 years ago. Uh this is the third uh public works director that's been made aware Well, I don't think he has been made aware of this, but the two previous before we paved, we backed up water in the people's driveway, and now it's a mud hole. Oh, they've been made aware. Pardon me. Everybody's been made aware multiple times. I've told Abby, I've told Martin that shot.

Uh, we need to look at that because it's I've never talked to you about it, but I know it's getting to be more of an issue because the house just up from the driveway they're talking about. We paved and you shot the lines and it can go into that drain right there, can't it? Yeah, we we were told by previous administrator that wasn't city issue. So, uh, that's where we leave at. But yeah, I know is that tour? But the house has already sold twice since then. Uh the new owner said that they weren't worried about it. Even though I keep two story. You huh? The ranch or the twotory? The ranch,

I think. Uh cuz um I know the last time Happy talked to him, it was when the new owners came in and it was iced over and I met Happy out there and he said he made contact with them and they weren't worried about it. Over there. Oh yeah, it was a ice little ice skating pond. Yeah. Okay. Uh any other comments? I'm going to move to adjourn the meeting. We'll take the rest of these off the line. Yeah. Thank you everybody. VS7.