City Council - Regular Meeting

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We shouldn't have to hold it. All right. Would you please join me in the flag salute? All right, let's try this again. Maybe I can do it without holding it down. All right, let's try it again. Okay, all of the state and city council is present tonight and we're joined by our friends from sublimity with the mayor and councelor Morrison Cass Sier join us. So we have a I just wanted to make sure to point that out. Are there any addition to the agenda? No. Any declaration of party contact, conflict of interest, bias, etc. Don't hear any opportunity for public comment. Have we received any requests for public comment? Okay. No thanks. All right. That leads us to consent agenda from December 1st. City Council regular session minutes. Resolution number 2539 accepting the abstract of election results from the November 4th, 2025 special district election. And resolution number 2540, reappoint, new appointment of members to various boards and commissions. What would the council like to do?

Councelor Patty. Yes, sir. Uh, I would like to move that we accept the consent agenda as presented. Second. Okay. We have a motion and a second to present uh to accept the consent agenda as submitted. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries five to zero. And that moves us on to presentations. And we have a great presentation tonight. So Julia, do you want to take this one or start us off?

Yes. Thank you. This is my I'm feeling an echo. Okay. Maybe it's just me. This is my first evening with the um microphones and I don't like it. Um just saying. Okay. Um so this evening we have the state and high school boys soccer recognition. As you all know they took state and that's very exciting. Um because state and high school is includes both Staten and Subliminity. We invited Subliminity and they actually um helped us with some little baskets um for the um the team. Um so what we're going to do is I'm going to read the names of people that are that we know are here. If anybody's come in after um you talk to Melanie, um let us know and we'll pull the certificate. We do have certificates for everybody and we've got baskets for everybody, but we're going to read the names of the people that we know are here. What we'd recommend is actually um Mayorwigley and Mayor Taylor to come in front of the podium so that while I will hand MayorWigley the certificate and then unless you guys all want to come in front um and shake hands um we'll give Mayorwigley the certificate. Um we can do um handshakes and a photo with the mayors and then um the team can pick up their basket and then stand over there until we've got gone through all the names so that we can um do a photo. Make sense?

Okay. Okay. But before we do this, can the coach tell me what the record of the team was, please? Wow. That's amazing. Congratulations, y'all. That was fantastic. What a situation.

Hey, Julia. Okay. Um, if you guys would like to come up front and then I will also read um any additional awards, which there are a lot of additional awards for um the the team um many people on the team. It's really quite incredible. The first person is Ty Williams and he is also all league honorable mention. We have individual pictures

um how do we want to do whatever you guys want to do. Okay. Um, Yale Villana Gonzalez and Yale is second team all league. And did I say your name right? We've got Ruben Bell, all League honorable mention. And then we got Jose Navaro who's also first team all league. Isaiah Dixon, who's the captain, as well as first team all league and player of the year. Edwin Carz was Edwin Perez. Zachary Fletz.

Noah Clampy. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. No, it's Clampy, Omar Velisana Gonzalez,

Miguel's Klet. Cabelos second team all league. Um, and I'm going to go ahead and read the names of the other team members who aren't here. Um, and then we'll read the coach's name. Um, Logan um, Bhuten, Caesar Perez, Nick Paleo, Johnny Garcia, Josiah Desio, um, Caleb Larson, Alejandro Curiel, Juan Sero, Cisneras, Logan Bratton, Anthony Reneria, and Brian Navaro are also on the team. Congratulations. And this amazing team was coached by head coach Chris Shields who is also here. And we have a certificate for coach. Oh, coach of the year. And then he was also a joined with his assistant coaches Ivan Paleo, Nolan Kramer, and David Hulcom. So team members, there's a basket for each of you. And Melanie, maybe you can um talk a little bit about what's in them. If you would just treats.

I think and and then before they all leave, I don't know if you guys wanted to say anything more or if we said that already or

Go ahead, Mayor. Is this working? There we go. I I just want to congratulate the team. Um I I know I know a few of you. Some of you I've known since you were annoying little first graders. And I've seen you grow up to be great young men. Well, Noah is still just as annoying as he was when he was a first grader. But I have the pleasure of knowing you, knowing your families, um and and seeing you grow into the fine young men, including Noah. And I really a lesson I want you to take from this is that you've had a great season. You've worked really hard. You're undefeated. You're champions. Um you you can achieve that kind of success in life after high school. You won't go undefeated. I guarantee you that. But if you work just as hard as you did when you were going after this championship, you can succeed. So, just, you know, down the road when when things get tough, think about this. Think about this championship. Think about what it took, the sacrifices you had to make, the work that you had to put in to get where you're at right now. And and that's going to take you really far in life. So, I just want to congratulate you all and uh I'm proud of you. Thanks, Anybody else on council? Okay. Well, again, y'all, good job. And uh what Mayor Taylor said, I can only echo. So, great work. Thanks for coming out and thanks for representing the state and like y'all did. It's great job.

You guys don't have to stay. You're good.

Hey, cookies. sitting here waiting. Having said that, um the next item I'm going to pull off the agenda tonight and that is the public hearing. Um we are going to move that to a future date. Um yes, I was going to have Jennifer just come up and explain a little bit as to why. Um and yeah, explain what the next steps are, what our request is.

Sounds good, Jennifer. Thanks. Is this on? Oh, good. Um, so, uh, I'm Jennifer Siciliano, the economic and development director here in state. And um I just have a little blurp to read you. Before this evening is an ordinance to annex the 21 acre property located on Golf Lane in the city of Stton and to change the zoning designation from Marian County urban transition to um city of Statton low density residential. I'd like to briefly explain a procedural matter that arose very recently. Earlier today, the city received an updated guidance from DLCD uh regarding credential need for a postagnowledgement plan amendment commonly referred to as a papa in connection with annexations. Generally papas are required when there is a change in zone that is different from the comprehensive plan. DLCD indicated that based on the current interpretation and application of case law that even though the proposed zoning is consistent with the state's comprehensive plan because it is assigning a zone and therefore a zone change, they'd prefer the city provide them with a 30-day notice for the state for all annexations. In my discussion with DLCD today, they acknowledge that um relevant uh OS

uh is subject to interpretation and that practices have varied um in different municipalities. However, they noticed that case law has supported the position that papas may be required when an annexation in includes a zoning action, which it always does. Uh historically the city of state has not completed a PPA for annexations unless there was an amendment to the comprehensive plan and that the city has been having an ongoing consistent practice of not doing that. Uh so given DLCD's updated guidance um and out of an abundance of caution, staff is recommending that the city council remand the ordin or ordinance back to the planning commission. This would allow the planning commission to rehear the application while providing a 35day notice to the state consistent with DLCD's direction. We have actually shared the information with the applicant and they are supportive of this direction. Staff will continue to work closely with DLCD, the planning commission, and the applicant to move it forward efficiently and return the ordinance to the council once the notice and hearing requirements have been satisfied. I'm happy to answer any questions. Councelor, my question. Go ahead, councelor Sims. So um the planning commission recommended medium density.

I know that the applicant put in your density. Does it matter which or that? Yeah, the opposite. Sorry. But does it matter which when you do that 35day notice? Would you put it in as medium density or low density or

I think we would put it in as medium density as the applicant. uh requested and we'd have to rehear it at planning commission. I have to say that I got a call. It was like 11:55 today from DLCD and they said that it would need to go to planning commission again. Um and that they would need the 35 days to the planning commission meeting and then it would need to go to city council and then the city council we could uh discuss medium or low density at that point. Yes. Okay. Mr. Mayor, Council Hort.

And can you clarify? I'm just unclear as to what the state needs 35 days to do. They will likely comment. It gives them opportunity to comment on the zone change. That's what What is the acronym that you're talking about? Um, which one? The DLC. It is the department of land conservation and development. It's basically like the state planning agency.

And then one more followup to that. So you're saying anytime we change so anything that is in the urban transitional anytime we change some something which basically is anytime we annex into the um the city because we have to change the zoning. You're saying that we are required to do this and we haven't been.

Um, it's I I would argue it's current interpretation. I was a planner for almost 30 years and I've never done one for annexation before. So, it was a surprise and the applicant is also a planner that's been um out in doing planning things and it was a little bit of a surprise for her too. So, it sounds like it's a new interpretation of of the rule. and they and they put it in writing after they spoke to me to make sure um you know they wanted their cop their comments in writing. Um but yeah, I did uh speak with her about it because um if you have a change in the comprehensive plan or you have a change in zoning, I actually did this when um we were talking about changing the interchange development zone and allowing a different use. I did inform the state about that and did a PAPA. But when you do an annexation, you're always assigning it, that's how I perceived it, assigning it a a zoning designation cuz it has to have some zoning designation. And they said to me on the phone, they considered that a zone change. Um, and I would say going forward, it's not that hard to do that notice. You you do notice for the newspaper and property owners anyways. It's just we didn't know that we needed to do it. So that's why it's needing to go back through the process going forward. Any annexation, Jennifer will just go through this process and do the DLCD notice. And usually I mean sometimes they'll have comments. They don't always have comments, but it's just a procedural thing.

So kind so like when we ask the water board or um Marian County for their comments, it'll be the state asking for their comments. Thank you. Anybody else? Okay. So, what you need, I think is what you heard, Jennifer, is that you need to have the council offer a motion to remand the ordinance back to the planning commission. Yes. Okay. Mr. I make a motion to remand the ordinance number 25-00006 uh back to the planning commission.

Second. Okay. Motion and a second to remand ordinance number 25-006 back to the planning commission. Any further discussion? Mr. Mayor Council Ward, are we um I know that we are sending this back, but are we able to have any discussion about it or do we have to wait? I would recommend waiting. Fair enough. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. I think Melanie, can you pull the council on this one since it's a land use issue? Councelor Hayes. Yay. Councelor Ort. Yes. Councelor Patty,

yes. Councelor Kerry, yes. Councelor Sims, yes. Motion carries five to zero. Thanks, Jennifer. Thank you. That leaves us with general business. Any general business communication from city staff? Julia,

I have a few things. Um, first in light of a little the technical difficulties that we're having this evening, um, I would just like Alyssa to um or and or Melanie to discuss what we've done so far and what we will be doing after this evening because I don't think I could do another meeting with this echo. So, yes, we've been working with Keyode Media. They were down last Friday. Um, they thought they would only be here for half the day. um or what two or three hours and we're here till just a little bit after five o'clock. Um so yes, we are working with them and I know that he was you had one person who programmed the system and they sent someone else down to try to fix some of the issues that we were having. And so trying to figure out how a different programmer was working versus how his mind works, it seemed like there were some issues. I don't know if you have anything else, but um we've recorded it on Zoom tonight. It is live broadcasting right now. It just appears that there is not the video. They're seeing this up here, but there is sound. I went and listened to it. So, um but we do have video here that we can upload later so that we have an official um picture. And go ahead. Um, the microphone issue is something with the manufacturer from the microphone that the person who did the install is working with their team to figure out um why Ken's was not working. We know why yours is not working, but we didn't want to change it mid meeting and confuse the whole process. So, that that is perfectly fine. We know how that works. U we're going to cover that board over there and um they're working on uh the camera tracking system with the manufacturer as well, but he recovered a lot of the um errors in in setting things up with the uh handheld

microphone and the lapel microphone weren't routed to actually come through the speaker. So, we got a lot of those issues resolved on Friday that we weren't expecting to have to work on.

And thank us all for our patience, I guess, right? Um, so I've got a few more things. Um, I wanted to mention this morning we had a holiday um, staff appreciation year-end holiday um, breakfast. Um, and one of the things that we introduced was stars of appreciation and it's really intended for staff in to recognize staff in other departments. So, not within your own department, but in other departments to basically write something nice about why um they appreciate them. Um and I was thinking it would be lovely if you wanted to um to make those available to you, too. I of course forgot to bring some. Um but if there's some that you would like, we will have them um available at the front counter if you guys wanted to come by and pick up some stars. Um Howard will be accepting them all by right Thursday. um and then putting them together in an in a constellation and taking a picture of it and then um sharing those stars with those staff. So um at the very least, even if you aren't able to get us stars, we'll share those with you so you can see what other people think about the staff. Um I want to just remind you all, I think you know that we've got the Detroit Dam drawdown open house tomorrow. Um and then on Wednesday there's a stakeholder meeting for the park and pool. The intent of that is really just to share information with people who we know are using the pool, you know, like swim team um folks, parks, sport, um running clubs, that kind of stuff that we know are using the parks in the pool um to get input from them on the um on a potential levy. Um, I would say anybody in the community really is a stakeholder. So, anybody is welcome to attend, but we specifically invited people that we c could identify.

So, don't, you know, if you're talking with anybody, they're welcome to attend. Um, so that's on Wednesday from 5:30 to 7:30 here. Um, and then I wanted to ask Barry to come up. Um, I know that if we don't call Barry up, um, the mayor will ask about it anyways. um the the tree removal in downtown um for Barry just to explain a little bit about the why and the timing and that project. I did warn him that I was gonna he might not have remembered, but I told him,

Barry Bllan, interim public works director. Um, there has been several questions and comments concerning the removal of the trees outside the court and in Oh god, what's the other road? Florence Road. Thank you. Um we are currently in the process of taking the trees out so that we can actually repair the foot paths or sidewalks. Um the sidewalk exercise is a thing that has been ongoing. We do have a register or a partial register. It's not completed as it stands right now, but we have a partial res register in place to in actual fact renew sidewalks that are associated with the city. It was my call on attacking or working on the city's portion of the part side works first before we go out and force the issue on people outside the cities domain. So anywhere that we're working right now is adjacent to city property and it is associated with our responsibility to in actual fact restore the sidewalks back to good working condition. Along with that we have looked at this is an exercise that Jennifer and I have been working on and Jennifer will be presenting to council. It's mid January I believe. um concerning sidewalk repair trees, uh rideways, roadway repair, etc., etc. Unfortunately, every time we turn around, the exercise gets bigger because it encompasses more and more things. So, as it is right now, the trees have

been removed outside the court and out on Florence Road itself. There are three trees I believe at France Road and three in in um outside the court itself. We will be moving to remove the footpaths uh when weather is a convenient to do so so that we can actually lay pavement back down. One of the things that's inside the tree and sidewalk discussion that we want to have with you is how we reinstall or reinstate And our proposal as it stands right now, not that I'm asking for comment at this point, but I'm putting out here so that you understand what we're trying to do is remove trees, roots, and encumbrances that are in actual fact impeding or damaging our footpaths on or sidewalks on a regular basis. We will repair the sidewalks and then put planters back in. We do not intend to put in pavement trees in as replacement. We got we're going to put 3x3 planters which are the same size as the boxes that currently exist for the trees to stand in. And then we'll put trees that will be appropriate for those planters. Have those grow until they get to a 4 in girth. We'll then take those trees out and put them in a uh arbory that we intend to start at the wastewater water treatment and the water treatment plant and within the parks and reinstate trees so that we don't have oversized trees downstairs that are causing problems with the sidewalks or with the planters that we intend to use in the future. So that's where we stand right now. Um, if there are any questions on that or any further understanding that need

needed, I'm more than happy to answer questions. Councelor Patty, thank you, Mr. Mayor, and thank you, Barry, for that explanation. Um, I'm just curious. It seems just in your going through what we're going to do to remedy this this situation, it seems very like I don't know, costly and time consuming. Is this the cheapest option? I guess is my first question.

It's that that's a really good question, David. Um, cheapest may not be the cheapest solution on a first up basis, but it is long-term the cheapest way to move forward so that we're not repairing uh sidewalks on a continuous basis. As it stands right now, we put trees in and those trees roots grow, expand, destroy the footpaths, and we're actually digging up our sidewalks to replace our sidewalks rather than the just trees and planters. So, the initial capital cost is slightly higher. I'll put that out there. But the long-term life cycle cost is in actual fact significantly less. You're right, Julia. This really is painful.

I I'll I'll probably have some additional questions when we get to that discussion next what you said January. When mid January. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I'll have some additional questions then. A and I will say that I've asked Barry Bas, you know, with the the feedback that we saw on social media, it's like we is there a way that we can be a little bit more um

communicative um with both the council but also the community. Um I know it's on their plan, but it doesn't mean that the public knows about it or we know about it. And so I think we're, you know, we're talking about what we can do, maybe some some signage or something like that. And this is I think this is it for the year. Um but if as we go forward, if we're in a place where we're going to be taking um trees down, having a little bit of notice before we're doing that, so the public isn't surprised by it and they know that it's associated with a sidewalk fix and that the trees will be replanted because I think what people are seeing on social media is the trees cut down and not realizing that they're going to be replaced after the sidewalks are replaced and that it's a plan. Oh, I guess I'll just ask the question. So, if we're planning on doing that for the downtown core in front of city-owned property, is that going to be a discussion for citywide as well?

Yes. Yes, it is. It to be quite it. This is a trial demonstration that we're trying to do to make sure that everybody's happy with what we're doing. Um we will be getting uh RDS involved to make sure that they're happy with what we're doing down downtown as well. Um but from our discussions internally and talking to some of the general public u they agree that long-term this may may be the best solution. Um, in fact, I had a discussion with mayor um from Subliminity about that very situation. Um, and they have actually in their ordinance a species of trees that's permitted within the city. So, I thought that was interesting.

Right. Yeah. So, Mayor Taylor and I had that discussion a couple months ago. Okay, cool. Well, perhaps we can pick up on some of that information as well, Brian. Council Carrie, go ahead. very hypothetically I have a tree on my property. It's destroying the sidewalk. Am I responsible as a resident or will the city come in and take care of that? As as it stands right now, if it's on your property, it it remains your responsibility. It is one of the points that we're going to bring up and discuss in more detail um when we bring the whole thing back to you. But um no, I won't go first,

Mr. Mayor. council.

I think one of the issues too with um communicating with the public is that a lot of people don't understand that there's a spec there's specific type of trees that you're supposed to plant. And that doesn't always happen because they're not always available. And I know from speaking with our previous city manager that some of the trees that were planted were not um were not ones that were supposed to be planted there because they weren't because the trees that we that we needed were not available. Well, in very recent times, again, something that we will bring to the table mid January is that our tree list, we've gone through our tree, the original tree list that I think had something like 45 different trees on it. We've actually cut that list down to five and I'm reviewing it so that we will have no more than 10. Um, and as I say, we'll be looking at trees that are more appropriate to put in planters rather than grow naturally deep roots into the ground. Okay. So yes, there is a there is a tree problem in that the tree the tree list was not originally followed directly and also it was so extensive quite honestly it was difficult to understand what you were meant to buy and what you weren't meant to buy.

Thanks Barry. Anybody else appreciate it Julia? Uh that is all I have unless um Okay, that is all I've got. Opportunity for city council and mayor communication. City council. Mr. Mayor, councelor.

Thank you. Um so I would like to recognize our city manager. Um, in October, my um, kids' school had the the middle school had a career day and we had several people come in and talk about their careers and whatnot. And so I asked um, Julia if she would come in and and talk about what it's like to be a city manager. I think it's one of those jobs that um, people don't necessarily think about until until there's an emergency probably or until they need something. Um, and so I just wanted to say thank you. The kids, I talked to several of them afterwards and um, they uh, they they had a little bit better of understanding of what you do. Some of them were that the comments that I got were they're always funny that you get back, but they're like she was talking about the water and I don't know exactly what she was saying, but uh, she said they're going to make sure that that the water is good. And I was like, "Okay, well, you know, there's a problem and we're going to make sure it's it's fixed." So, thank you for going to talk to them. They uh really enjoyed enjoyed it. So, and I have a thank you note from the kids.

Nice. Uh, councelor Sims. Barry, can you come back up here, please?

I'm gonna put you on the spot. I think I got it on the uh something I brought up last year. I think it was before your time, but uh Marian Street and uh North Third, that intersection with Covered Bridge and 505, a four-way stop there. I really, really think we need to get a four-way stop in there. I haven't seen I don't think we've done anything with that, but after standing at the 505 many times and watching that intersection, I really I really want to get a four-way stop in there and soon. I think I think it's something that's necessary. I don't hopefully we have a maybe have some agreement with the rest of the council on that, but but I I really want to get that stop in there. I don't think we need to do a $200,000 survey of it or anything like that. I don't know what the requirements are, but

So, um, Councelor Sims, yeah, you you mentioned that to me and I mentioned that to that you were likely going to bring that up to Barry and I was going to say, Barry, I'm going to delegate that to you. Um, I don't know if you've had a chance to really give them any looking with all the other things that you've had on your plate, but I know it's not as simple as just putting up a stop sign. Do you have can you now or maybe at the next meeting say what is involved in evaluating whether or not a stop sign can be placed?

Um I haven't looked at it have not looked at it in detail. Um but this is one of those silly things. You're actually talking to the wrong person, isn't she? Isn't he by under the bylaws actually comes under the chief police's responsibility to make that decision but seem we have interchangeable titles apparently um I can also make that decision. I will take on board to actually have a look at it in more detail and we will bring back a recommendation. Thank you. I'd appreciate that. Hopefully, it's not too costly to put a four-way stop in. I got one more for you, so don't get up.

Before we go to the next one, I just want to say it it there are warrants. You can't just put a stop sign up if it's not warranted. So, hopefully it won't be an an extensive and expensive analysis, but we need to make sure that it's not going to create a situation that's going to be less safe. And in in this instance, I don't know that that's the case, but um you know, if you were to just have a stop sign in the middle of a road that's going um straight with no no other indicators, it could create a safety hazard. So that's we need to make sure that it's appropriate. So that's what Barry will look.

We'll get an evaluator come back with a re, you know, recommendation or a comment on why. Yeah, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, sorry. On on that same vein, I feel like this kind of I feel like I'm deja vu moment, but um with our downtown being uh busier than really it's ever been, is it possible to take a look at other streets too? Um I know like second, what is it in front of Yugos? Ida second in Ida. Like it is very confusing on who's supposed to stop and who isn't. And

sometimes I stop and I'm like, "Oh, I don't have a stop sign." But you I don't know. You just never know who's going to be going through the

intersection inappropriately. So I always just use caution there. But I just feel like it's a little confusing some of our Oh, intersections. I I was I think yes. And um I thought you were going into the the parking plan that we applied for to D I think it was DLCD as well. So um we're still waiting on a response from them. And I had asked Jenner, is that where we're at? We're still Okay. So, we're still waiting on a response on that parking study, but that doesn't that doesn't include the stop sign.

The reason why I brought it doesn't necessarily, but it could potentially be expanded to kind of look at parking and traffic circulation in the downtown. Gotcha. Okay. And my last question for Barry, the uh do we do pothole filling in the winter time or is that a springtime thing?

We do pothole filling all all year round basically. Um but it is when it's appropriate to put material in the potholes. As it stands right now, there's just too much water in the potholes to naturally fill them. um we can't dewater the pothole and keep the material in the pothole once we put it in is part of the problem. So it needs to be a little bit drier than it is this week um to get potholes filled. But in general, yes, potholes are filled. Uh over the last several weeks, possibly 6 to 8 weeks, we have not worked on potholes because the the guy that's does our pothole maintenance is driving the truck to suck leaves off the road. Um so we don't have that person available over that short period to in actual fact do it. But I was talking to Jerick on Friday and he said he'll be back to the normal street maintenance work later this week. Yeah, it's going to be really wet. But is is there a way to report potholes? Do we have like a hotline or a a link that we can do on our website? Because this has been brought up to me and I've had people confront me about pothole repair.

So, we don't currently have a an easy mechanism. It's actually something that we've discussed several times in the past, but we haven't implemented, but maybe this is a good push for us to um get something out there. Yeah, that' probably be great to have something where we can log it and that way we have a list when Jerry Jerry, right, goes out goes out and fixes the potholes. Yeah. Yeah. I would love a system where we can have people report them and then have a map in, you know, interface type of thing. I mean, some of that is beyond our budget. Um, but for a simple forms reporting, um, I know Melanie can accomplish that pretty easily.

That could be as simple as a spreadsheet. I mean, pretty easy. I I have a followup to that, too. Uh, do we have a like we know that there are problematic potholes that consistently come up. Do we have a list of those or is it all just complaint driven on whether they get filled or how does that work?

Okay. In general, I will put out there straight up. It is firefighting. Um, we when Jerick is driving around or any of the operations guys are driving around, they record them, get it to Jerick. Jerick goes out and makes the repair. Um, when he's doing leaf pickup, well, I'm sorry that when he does leaf leaf pickup, he is also monitoring the street as he's driving around and he's doing close to 60 miles a week um in the leaf time and he records those and then attacks them when he can. Um, but yes, I will put out there admittedly it is more firefighting than it is proactive. I feel like some of the streets that have the potholes are not the streets that the street sweepers sweep.

That would be true. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And th those ones are actually picked up by uh our general crews going around just traveling around town looking looking looking at things. if they're not reported um then quite honestly they do get they do get missed and there are a lot of potholes out there that in actual fact don't get fixed on the on the lesser roads you know we're more looking at roads with black top on them and trying to keep those maintainable and keep them operational and

Barry don't leave I wonder if we had I know we had discussions about the parking on Tent and Jefferson. Do we have resolution with that? Uh Julie, you well tents in Jefferson is in actual fact county issue and the county is saying that they don't have intentions as to do anything as it stands immediately. So the no parking signs were put up by the county. Sorry, the the no parking signs on the existing no parking sign is a county sign. Yes. So who enforces that? RPD.

I don't know the answer to that. Is that Yeah, our our officers would enforce no parking as as time allows on where there are park where there's parking within that. Um the issue Oh, sorry. I I think there is I know that there is one sign that is missing. So, I don't know if is there a sign that's missing? There was a sign that was missing. Um I think then there was also the conversation about expanding that. And I think it sounds like you heard that they're not going to expand the no parking area, but hopefully they'll at least replace the one that

Okay. Well, I will chase up on the sign if there's a sign missing. I did not realize that and I didn't talk to the county about that, but I did talk to them about the street itself and the potential of extending the no parking area. And it's it's in it's a in review, let's put it that way, from the county. I thought, Julia, that we looked at the transportation plan, and in that transportation plan, there's not supposed to be parking along East Sania. Is that right?

That's what the TSP says. That it's not necessarily what the county has. We can push for that. They might say, "We want money. We want I mean, it's that's something that we could potentially push for." I think that there's maybe three issues that we're talking about. The missing no parking sign, the no parking at 10th and Jefferson and kind of expanding that, and then the no parking with consistent with the TSP all the way from 10th to 1st. Um, and I think I I would imagine that if we really want to push it and the county um I could be talking out of school here, but if we want to push it and we want to pay for it, the county would likely allow us to do the 10th to first. I think what we asked them about was expanding the the

Yeah. the no parking within that 10th and Jefferson area. Yeah, the county was quite clear on that. They're prepared to put marking in given the time constraints of when they're going to do maintenance on the road.

Um, and quite honestly, right now it's it's escaping my mind, but there was discussion about when that road was likely be maintained or have an overlay put on it. They didn't want to go out and stripe it and put no parking um indicators on the on the road when they were going to within I I'm not going to make a number because I can't remember what the number I said. So, let's put our we'll we'll we'll have a more formal response by the next meeting. How about that? That's fine. That's what I was looking for. Anybody else? Council, thanks Barry. Appreciate you being in the hot seat. Mr. Mayor,

councelor Kerry more of an announcement. I just want to highlight the 505 men's collective 7 to your party Friday and Saturday. Friday is uh 4 to 7 and uh Saturday is uh 10 to 7.

Okay. Thank you. And know I think I'll be trying to make an appearance there, so that'd be great. Um I got a couple things, Julia. Um, I sent a note to staff, but I want to publicly acknowledge the work and effort that staff did to the Christmas tree lighting. I think you all saw my response, but Melanie and Howard, I know that you were instrumental in carrying that all out. And I would tell you that the community had a great time. Myself, council or councelor Hayes, councelor Sims was all in attendance and everything went smashingly with the exception of lighting the tree. That was probably operator error because I called Howard up there. I'm like, "Howard, help." And next thing I know, the tree was lit. So, well done everybody on that one. That was really awesome to see. Um, having the kids have the opportunity to come in here and do crafts and be captured by the storyteller and just everything that you all did for that. So, I really appreciate that. Um, it's really giving of self when you put that much effort into it for the m benefit of the community. So, thank you,

Mr. Mayor. Council, can I piggyback on that? I love that we used the community center because I it was it was a perfect like segue in here and it was warmer and uh out of the out of the weather. So, it was fantastic and I mean it was full of people and I so it's really nice to see people here other than just at council meetings. So, thank you.

Yeah. Um, just for FYI, I'm going to be absent the second meeting in January and I asked Councelor Sims to run the meeting as well as to attend um Dorsy's place new open house. And so Councelor Sims will be doing that for me. And uh I think that's all I have. One last chance for good order. Anybody? There's something that I'm missing, but it'll come to me. All right. All right, with that uh we're journ.