Board of Aldermen - Regular Meeting
The Board of Aldermen approved several zoning changes, including a re-zoning for a portion of 611 Spruel Place for a parking lot and a special exception for an accessory dwelling unit at 927 Barnett Drive. They also discussed and approved an RV park development with conditions and addressed two properties declared public nuisances.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Board of Aldermen
- Meeting Type
- Board Of Aldermen
- Location
- Starkville, MS
- Meeting Date
- February 17, 2026
Transcript
121 sections (from 524 segments)
live which is the start of our meeting here. Um this is our recess meeting for the month of February and we will first stand I'll call the meeting to order. Excuse me. And then we will stand for the pledge of allegiance followed by an invocation from Alman Cyrunk and then a moment of silence. If you would please stand with me. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Sister, if you would please. Thank you.
Let us pray. Loving God, guide us in our decisions and setting of priorities. Help us to identify what is most important and to hold lightly the less important. Help us to trust in your guidance and care for our community. Amen.
Thank you everyone. We appreciate you being here this evening. Um first order of business will be to um adopt the official agenda with consent items. Do we have any changes? Alman Morton. No ma'am. Alman Sister. No, ma'am. Alman Skinner. No, ma'am. Alman Brook. No, ma'am. Thank you. Alman Poker. No, ma'am. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you. Alman Vaughn. No, ma'am. Thank you, Mayor. All right. With that being said, I need a motion to approve the agenda with the consented items uh as listed. Approval. I have a motion from Alderman Popup. Can I take a second from that, Alman Brooks? Thank you so much. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I.
Opposed. Motion carries. And I will read the consented items. First, we have consideration of the minutes of the January 30th, 2026 work session of the mayor and board of aldermen of the city of Starkville. Consideration of the minutes of the February 3rd, 2026 regular meeting of the mayor and board of alderman of the city of Starkville. Then under mayor's business, we have consideration of adopting the resolution in support of the build, excuse me, s support of the better utilizing investments to leverage development build grant application by Mississippi State University to construct the pedestrian land bridge connecting Mississippi State University campus to the city of Starkville. Then we have consideration of entering into a contract with Restaurant Tyler LLC to lease the sidewalk space tangent with the restaurant building itself and the additional space located in front of the business separated by the sidewalk access path. Next, we have discussion consideration of final plat FP26-03, a request for final plat approval for lot 2 of city block 87 revised subdivision at 208 Industrial Park Road in an industrial zoning district. Under engineering, we have consideration of accepting the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks, MDWFP, Recreational Trails Program, RTP grant award in the amount of $120,000 with a required match of $30,000 for the design and construction of a new skate park and authorizing the mayor to execute all required grant documents, certifications, and agreements associated with the work. Two is consideration of permission to advertise a phase one request for qualifications RFQ. Approve the statement of work. Approve the RFQ and RFP ranking criteria. Establish an evaluation committee to shortlist design bill firms and proceed immediately with a phase 2 request for proposals RFP. Three is consideration to find and determine pursuant to Mississippi code section 31-7-13 and Senate Bill 2300 2025 the use of the design bill method of procurement for the Startwell Community Skate Park to be in the best interest of the public. Item
four is consideration of approving the low bid from Hannon LLC in the amount of $187,63 for the 2026 ADA improvements project. Number five is consideration of approving change order number three for the main street improvements project in the amount of a $28,276.75 increase and 17 additional days. Six is request approval for the street department to advertise through reverse auction for the purchase of a bulldozer pursuant to state requirements and to authorize the city clerk to obtain financing quotes from local banks. Under finance administration, we have number two, which is acceptance of the January 2026 financial statements. Under human resources, number one is consideration of the dis disciplinary actions recommended by environmental services and sanitation director Chris Smiley for a startful sanitation commercial driver as a result of IIA number 02052026. Number two is request authorization to hire Dylan Brower and Zachary Corbo as police officer pre-academy in the Startwell Police Department. Under parks, we have consideration of approving permission to apply for funding from the America 250 Mississippi grants one program grant and two mini grant for the 4th of July celebration. Under the police department, we have a application for fiscal year 27154A alcohol impair driving enforcement grant request permission to apply for grant funding for the continuation project of DUI enforcement. The grant is 100% reimburseable funds to two DUI officers and approximately 600 hours of overtime for DUI enforcement. B is application for fiscal year 27402 police traffic services grant requests permission to apply for grant funding for the continuation of project of PTS enforcement seat belt grant. The grant is 100% reimburseable. Funds approximately 680 hours in overtime for the traffic enforcement and speed detection equipment. C is request approval for updating the police proposed progression plan to include the
rank of Lieutenant 2, Sergeant 2, and Corporal 2. Under the utilities department, we have two, which is request authorization to accept the low quote from Hollis Brothers Electric and Refrigeration Company, Inc. in the amount of $17,220 for replacement of the HVAC unit at the wastewater treatment plant admin office. Three is request authorization to renew the agreement with the Kimro service for herbicide spraying for utility easements in additive areas at the same prices as the 2025 contract. Four is request authorization to advertise for bids for the water well number nine construction project. And that completes the consent agenda items. Thank you, mayor.
I am always happy to do that. Uh next we move to announcements and comments. Senator Mayor's comments. Uh, I get to make two introductions today, which is always a pleasure to me. So, Mr. Smiley, you want to bring your your folks up. First, we have Robert Barnes. Mr. Barnes in the blue, I'm guessing. Is that right? Okay. Well, come on up. Don't be shy. We need to know who we're waving at when we when we speak to you. Mr. Barnes uh Robert Barnes II, right? Joins our team as a sanitation worker, bringing a strong work ethic and a deep commitment to keeping our community clean and safe. In his role, he will provide essential waste management services, including trash and recycling collection to help ensure public spaces remain clean and well-maintained. His efforts will play an important role in preserving the beauty and cleanliness of our neighborhoods. Robert is a native of Startwell and an alum of Startwell High School, a a yellow jacket. All right. Outside of work, he enjoys playing basketball and vol volunteering for his church. Robert is looking forward to great contributions he'll make to the community with the sanitation department. And let me say to you, I think it's an underestimated thing, but it is incredibly important that we keep our community clean because that's the first impression people have of us. And so I I want you to think that your role is as important as I think it is because I truly do believe that it matters how we look to people. So, thank you very much and WELCOME TO STARK. AND NEXT WE have Miss Veronica Hudson. She joins our team as a residential driver, bringing over five years of experience operating commercial vehicles. She brings a proven track record of safety, reliability, and a strong commitment to excellence in waste management. In her role, Veronica will be responsible for operating commercial sanitation vehicles along established routes, ensuring safe and timely collection of residential and commercial refues. She will assist with loading and disposal operations, complete required inspections and reports, and work
closely with her crew to maintain safety, efficiency, and compliance for the sanitation department. Originally from Starville, we got two Starville folks. That's great. Veronica is an alum of Starville High School. Another yellow jacket. Yes. She enjoys spending time with her children, doing yard work, and being in the woods. Veronica is excited to bring her experience and dedication to the to the sanitation department while continuing to serve her community with pride. So, welcome to STAR. Thank you. Are you gonna be wearing that hat while you're driving? Am I gonna be able to see that hat? All right. Thank you so much. Uh, and I do want to go ahead and say thanks to the sanitation department. As you all know, I think we had a sanit a citywide sanitation pickup today and I got a text from Mr. Smiley that they completed it on time and so hopefully everyone got picked up and all is well. So, thank you very much for that. And I know it's extra work when we have those holidays, but we do appreciate that citywide pickup. So, thank you so much. And uh also, we had a very successful and busy weekend with uh sports and so we had a winning winning teams this weekend and which is wonderful. So, look forward to some more of that and maybe we'll be seeing things like regionals being hosted this year which would be fabulous. Um and I have nothing else. So, Alman Morland, anything?
No ma'am. Alman Cron, no ma'am. Thank you. Alman Skinner, no ma'am. mayor. Thank you. Alman Poker. No, ma'am. Thank you. Vice Mayor. Mayor, thank you. Alman Vaughn. No, ma'am. Mayor, thank you. And I neglected to mention I believe Starle High School is doing incredibly well in basketball this year. Are we not? I believe so. Yes. All around. That's great. All right. Next, we have citizens comments. And this is an opportunity for anyone who wishes to speak about any um subject to give us your concerns, compliments, thoughts. Um there are three three minutes allowed for that. So, Mr. Turner, always a pleasure to see you.
Good evening to the mayor board. My name is Adam Turner. War 7 era to the mayor, to the our police chief, to the fire chief, era to sanitation, and to the NACP. Era, we want you to continue to pray for Lenor Tucker. Uh she's doing well now, but after Saturday, it might all hit all at once, but continue to pray for her that she continue to be strong. Pray as well for uh Reverend Jefferson, Reverend Thomas, myself. We are going to try to fill uh Rean Tucker shoes and complete his mission. are uh the um citizen have a few concern that kind of like giving them nightmares that uh why why is the sidewalk so wide or how will be how will be how will we be parking would it be parallel or what it it's really uh uh they try to get to different places and every time they look roll close. Uh so uh help citizens out that uh they uh be trying to get to the courthouse to pay their taxes and they have to go around and round and round to try to find a place and then they have to walk um hoping that pretty pretty soon they get a break. Um, uh, I have my brother that's, uh, next to me, uh, John. He's 63 years old. I'm 62. And, uh, I got a picture for the police chief and the mayor are, uh, he appreciate you all keeping y'all
trouble. It's hard to do, Mr. Turner, but we'll work on it. Okay.
And, and just let me speak just real quickly. Um, and Cody, correct me if I'm if I'm wrong. Um, the the intersection out here that's been closed should be open uh tomorrow afternoon. And so the access will be there. And when we do that, then we're going to be going one lane like we did on this intersection or this block. We're going to be going one lane over the next block where Startwell Cafe is. But that all that signage will be out there. We will have maps available. But this intersection up here that's been closed for quite so long um is going to be open starting tomorrow. So access should be improved. Um all right. Anyone else under citizens comments? Anyone else? Now we will have the public hearing on the parking on the recreate RV park. Is that what you're
If you want to wait. If you have something else you'd like to talk about, you're welcome to do so now. Just weren't sure when.
Yes, ma'am. It it'll come under a public hearing. Yes, ma'am. All right. All right. Anyone else under citizens comments? All right. Seeing none, I will close it as citizens comments and we will go to public hearings. Our first, actually, I'm sorry, our second public hearing and consideration of the adoption of amending the alcohol ordinance. This is something that we have looked at at the last board meeting. We had a public hearing on it. did not take it up for consideration, but it is up for a second public hearing this evening and then consideration for the board to uh decide one way or the other if they so choose. So, this is an opportunity to speak. This is for us to take our Sunday brunch service, our alcohol service, which has currently been uh starting at 11:00, and allow it to begin at 10:00 a.m. for Sunday brunch for the restaurant. So, that's what the subject matter is, and that's what the ordinance supports. So, anyone wishing to speak to this matter before I open it as a public hearing? Anybody on the board wishing to speak about this? All right, seeing none, I'll open it as a public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak on the matter, either for or against, now is your opportunity. Um, my name is Aton once again. Um, you know, we need to be careful because we got the ICE people want to take over the police uh job and we got our this open weapon, open carry law and uh we are blessed so far, but we don't want if if we got a strong ordinance, we don't want to make it weak and uh we turn around and have a whole lot chaos that's unnecessary.
Thank you, Mr. Turner. Anyone else? Either for or against. Anyone else? All right. Seeing none, I will close it as a as a public hearing. Do we have a motion? Mayor, I move approval of this. I've talked to restaurant tours in my ward and they all are in favor of it and a matter of fact, I think one may actually open earlier if this come place. I move approval of this. All right. All right. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. I have a second from Aldin Morland. Any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Nay. Nay.
All right. Motion carries by vote 5 to two. Thank you so much. All right. Next, we have a public hearing on requesting a reasonzoning. This is 26-01 uh 27 ft of the rear yard of 611 Spruel Place from TME to T5C. Thank you, Alderman Bon. Mr. tablet
and it works. Uh yes, this is RZ26-01. This is a Mr. Castleberry is requesting reszone 27 ft of the rear yard at 611 Spur Place or traditional neighborhood existing to T5C. That is at 611 the subject property. The board alderman had previously approved a replatting of this property on January 6th. The area in pink that's shown on here is what was added to the uh cotton crossing site. The UDC allows for an amendment to the official zoning map based on error with a need to correct the error or changing the neighborhood that has occurred to such an extent to justify the proposed reszoning and there is a public need for the res. This primary basis for this request is going to be on error. Uh section 4.3 of the unified development code requires zoning district boundaries to follow to the greatest extent possible the property line. Allowing the lot to remain split zoned would conflict with this requirement and create an error in the official zoning map with a need to correct the error. The proposed amendment is consistent with the city's starts 2016 comprehensive plan which supports uh coordinated land use patterns, functional mixeduse development and zoning practices that reflect established development patterns. This request was noticed in accordance to UDC. 17 property owners of record were notified directly by mail and a legal ad was published on January 23rd in the Starkville Daily News and a sign posted on a property. As of this date, we have only received one email requesting information and on February 10th, the planning zoning commission unanimously recommended approval of this request based on any question.
Any questions of Mr. Hows? Just a couple M. So we we The plaid has already been changed. The plaid has been approved. They have not filed it yet. They're kind of waiting to file it based on this, right? Because they don't want to file it without being able to use the property. I understand. And so with that, then we're talking about the the 27 rear feet of this yard, but really it'll actually be part of the other property. Correct. Correct. Correct. Yeah. It's currently in its current state is the rear yard. Okay. Right. But as soon as this is approved, it could be even contingent upon them filing the plat to make it the final approval of that's what I want to make sure everybody understood that. Yes,
that's Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else of Mr. H? And I believe I saw the applicant in the audience. Mr. Castleberry, do you have anything you wish to add? Happy to ask any questions, but no. Okay. Well, let me see. Are there any questions of Mr. Castleberry? All right. Seeing none, in that case, I'll just open it as a public hearing. Thank you for being here. All right, I'll take this opportunity to open it as a public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak either for or against this item, now would be the time, either for or against.
Yes, ma'am. If you just come to the microphone so we can hear what you say and provide your name, please. Ramona Connelly. Thank you, ma'am. and I stay on Spruel Place. I did not receive anything in the mail about wanting to reszone and I'm trying to see exactly what are they trying to do and what are they going to zone it to. Mr. Havlin, you want
Yes. Um, so the the shopping center that's just that's on Russell Street that's behind 611 Pearl Place, they are buying 27 ft of her backyard and they're wanting to extend their parking into that backyard with a buffer zone. But in order to do that, they had to re replplat the property and then reszone it to allow them to park. So the only thing that's being affected is the rear yard 61. So it be parking. It's just going to be parking. Y'all are not Where is the house? Correct. Um the house is kind of underneath those words on the image on the left where it says subject property. The house is underneath that. And then the little pink kind of dashed area, that's the area that's being res.
It's at the dead end. It's at the dead end of the coack. Yes. This area right the house is right there. Who who owns the house? But she's already sold you the land. And she sold the land. And all of y'all fixing to do is a parking lot. Yes, sir. Miss Miss Connelly, we need to need to address the board, please, ma'am. Okay. So, all they're going to do is a parking lot and nothing else. Nothing with all the houses that they tow down back in that area. They're not trying to reszone that.
No, ma'am. This is only for this one piece. So, what would it be zoned then? The the same as what the shopping center is. It's just continuing with the same zoning on it there. Behind the shopping center, there's a uh a driveway. And so, this will just be parking spaces that come off it. The zoning will be T5C. T5C. Yes, ma'am. So, and they can't put anything else there but parking lots. Mr. H. Um, I mean, technically, you could extend the building back there, but that's not the purpose that they bought it for, but it would still have to meet setbacks requirements and stuff like that. They have to what did you say now?
Setback requirements. had to be uh off the property a certain distance and there be some buffer requirements in there too if they were to do anything else other than the park but 27 ft is a pretty tiny amount of space is probably about to the wall right there about 27 okay yes ma'am anything else no that's all right thank you so much anyone else anyone else seeing none I will close it as a public hearing do I have a motion move approval um contingent upon on the filing of the plat. Okay, I have a motion from Alman Cistro. Do I have a second? Second. Second from Alman Pop. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please signify by saying I. Opposed? Nay.
Nay.
Okay. Motion carries 5 to2. Thank you. All right. Next, we have a public hearing consideration of SE26-2, special exception. Uh this is a request by John Lacy to allow for an accessory dwelling unit located at 927 uh Barnett Drive in an SD2 zoning district. The applicant has requested a special exception to allow for the existing structure that's located in the backyard to uh continue to be used as an ADU and also kind of uh an intensification of it by installing a separate uh electrical meter. And you can see on the image on the left, the little the orange square is the approximate location of that. These are some images from the backyard. The circled area is the accessory dwelling unit as it currently exists. The structure is approximately 462 square ft and was constructed around 1970. It is historically functioned as a small residential dwelling. The structure is a legal non-conforming use and can continue in its current state. Um the applicant however is wishing to install an electric meter which would be sort of an intensification of that use. And so just to make sure that everything's documented that it's allowed to stay, he he chose to go the special exception route. The structure has a living space, a kitchen, a bathroom, and meets the definition of accessory dwelling unit. The request was notified in accordance to UDC. Seven property owners of record were notified by mail. A legal ad was published on January 23rd in the Starful Daily News and a sign posted on the property. As of this date, we received one email from a neighbor uh requesting information and we actually exchanged two or three emails providing more information as we developed staff report and she never contacted back. As with all special exception, the eight criteria for review and approval on February 10th, the planning zoning commission unanimously recommended approval of the request. Thank any questions.
Okay, any questions of Mr. Havlin? All right, seeing none of the applicant here. Okay. Anything you wish to share with the board? I'm happy to answer questions. Okay. All right. Do we have any questions of the Arman? And if so, apparently she does. Would you come forward, please, so we can hear and and state your name for the record, please? John Lacy, the applicant. How you doing? Hi. Um, I just wanted to be sure that that there was sufficient parking knowing that um things are tight in in that neighborhood. Nothing's changing. It's as is right now. This the driveway is the same. Um, for this, we're not doing anything. But you don't think this will de create a demand for more parking? No, ma'am. All right. Thank you. All right. Any other questions of the applicant? All right. Seeing none. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. I'll take this opportunity to open it as a public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak to this particular matter now would be your opportunity. Now would be the time either for or against. All right. Seeing none, I will close it as a public hearing. Do I have a motion? Approval. I heard several. Alderman Cystroke. I'm going to start with you. Second. Albert was with you. All right. Alderman Pope is a second. No further discussion. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you so much. All right. Next, we have the public hearing for special exception 26 26-03.
This This is the request by HPM Development LLC to allow for recreational vehicle park on the southwest corner of the intersection of Old West Point Road and East Garrett Road. You can see the area located here in the orange. The applicant is proposing an RV park with approximately 72 units. The request is for the use and not for this particular site plan. This is just a conceptual representation. The pre-application site plan review by DRC has been conducted and some comments have been issued. The site is approximately 13 and a half acres which exceeds the 3acre requirement for an RV park. The existing Parker McGill road will extend to Old West Point Road. That is what's shown right here on the bottom. In some form or fashion, it will connect back over to Old West Point Road. It's showing some common areas that include pickle ball courts, pavilion, shower, and restroom facilities. These are generally located here that's kind of behind a steep slope and the pickle balls along the roadway. These are some uh aerial renderings that the applicant provided. This is looking from Gared Road back toward the car dealership over the site. This is the view from I guess the hotel site looking back toward the intersection. And here's a view from the entrance of Parker McGill looking back over the site. The site has several physical constraints that limit the intensity or the feasibility of a more intensive use. Um approximately 45% of the site is located within a flood plane. On the right here is a flood map and you can see the areas that are shaded are all flood plane. The northern property line lies in a dedicated floodway which is that very large creek ditch that runs along uh aid road that can't be disturbed in any way. Um approximately 15% of the site contains steep slopes. That's this area in green down here. The slopes when measured out are about 20 to
30% which is really impractical to try to develop that uh specifically for something like this or a building. And then the biggest one is uh what's labeled as number four. There's 150 foot TVA power easement that runs through it that doesn't prevent any kind of buildings underneath it and that encompasses about 23% of the site. Due to these constraints, the development options are limited. The recreational vehicle sites uh are relatively smaller and dispersed which would be more conducive to developing of this site. The request was noticed in accordance to UDC. 14 property owners of record were noticed directly by mail. A legal ad was published on Start with the Daily News on January 23rd and assigned on the property. In the mailing of the letters, the date uh at the top of the letter was wrong, but the dates of the hearings were correct. So, despite the error, the legal notification was given. And so, that's what this image on the red is showing that it says February instead of January 23rd, the date that the letter was mailed. And then down here at the bottom is the actual wording in the ordinance that makes the requirement of notifying when the meeting is of where the meeting is. As of this date, we've received one inperson visit for more information about the request and one email against the request which is included in the staff report. UDC has eight criteria for special exception review and approval. And on February 10th, the planning zoning commission unanimously recommended approval with three conditions. These conditions are related to screening the RV park from both Old West Point Road and East Gared and having covenants to restrict the placement of accessory structures on individual RV sites and shielding outdoor lighting from surrounding properties. And if there are any questions,
did they they specified either a combination I see landscaping BMS or fencing? So they didn't they didn't settle on anything particular as the sheet nothing in particular. The screening would be you know to minimize the view as much as possible. Okay. All right. Any questions of Mr. How? Yeah. I'm sorry. Condominium.
Yes. Because uh the way this site is laid out, staff is requiring that it be a condominium and not a subdivision. Otherwise, the city would have to take ownership of all of these roads, which would be a very big burden on the tax taxpayer to pave roads for RV sites. So, the only road that would be public would be the the extension back to Old West Point Road. These would remain private. And by doing a condominium association, it ensures that all this common area is going to be tied to these property owners forever. It can never dissolve. It has to stay a thing. So it gives us a little bit of enforcement power if anything ever goes uh arai.
Yeah. And uh and I like that that concept. I you know I'm a little concerned about that one road going through there being public and the other one being private as far as uh security or Yeah. Yeah, but I think that as a public road, it is a needed connection just for connectivity. If there's ever an emergency issue with the bridge, if the bridge is under repair, it does give a way around.
Um, also, one thing that we're going to require as part of site plan review is that this rideway be extended further down to be able to allow access to this other undeveloped lot right there. So, that I believe it's a gas station is the current idea for that. So, that they would be able to access it from the rear back to Old West Point and not enter into the highway, which is going to have a roundabout here in the near future. The existing road is already public road, right? Correct. So, yeah, connect public. Yeah. I mean, I would I agree that you need connectivity through there. I'm just concerned about the RV guys because I'm one of those guys. Yeah. I imagine most of the RV guys are going to come in through here anyway. Uh they're going to be coming off the highway, not off Old West Point.
And and then the other thing I I'm a little concerned about is number two, the covenants restricted placement of accessory structures on the on the sites. I'm looking at uh start station and you know I I think I'd rather see him that one wasn't very strictly worded at PNZ. Uh the thing that he kept bringing up when he was talking about that covenants was you know stuff like swings and uh park benches and stuff like that. He didn't really dive in too much what the intent was. So yeah, if it needs to be refined more. Yeah, I I think they probably should because I mean I know those guys, especially if they sell them, they'll be looking just like Ster Station, they be looking to put little buildings out there of some sort.
The only place it becomes an issue is because these are public roads, there would be setbacks in place. So, you would have front setback requirements along there. So, there would be a distance requirement that not only the any kind of structure, but also the parking pad would have to be off of that road. Mayor, thank you. All right. Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone else? All right. Uh, the applicant I believe is here, Mr. Parker. How are you tonight? Um, anything you'd like to add or share with the board? James, such a good talk. I hate to even get up here. Okay.
I'm Jim Defo, Mayor Spruel Board. How are y'all? Uh, we'll be I'll be representing Mr. Parker and House here today. he uh owns this particular land and also the Jeep dealership, Dodge dealership over there. The 13 acres does sit in subservient and behind the dealership along with all the commercial frontage. So, we've got a pretty good buffer. The frontage has been sold. So, this 12 1/2 13 acres sits in behind it. And uh we will be requesting final approval uh of a special use permit for the traditions motor coach and RV park. It is 72 acre luxury uh motor coach community within a commercial zoning district. The project was um reviewed and recommended unanimously by PNZ uh with the staff finding it consistent with the the zoning ordinance and the city's comprehensive plan. Uh the development we believe is designed to serve both the city of Startville and Mississippi State University uh with their alumni, their donors or fans and all the major university and city events that are occurring yearly. Um it's planned uh professionally managed development, not a transient campground, never was intended to be. Uh, I believe Hal has a substantial investment at the car dealership and he's most concerned about what what would be going on behind him. Um, the lots will be privately owned um under the condominium declaration. Uh there'll be a condo owners association uh thus ensuring the city's long-term maintenance and compatibility. Uh, and the project we don't believe will be public any kind of public safety, health, welfare. I think that's going to be in good shape and we think
it'll contribute positive to start event driven tourism uh and actually to the tax base. Um, based on the unanimous planning commission recommendation and ordinance compliance, we respectfully request your approval. And with that, I guess I'll answer any questions. Do we have any questions of Mr. Def? I do. Yes, sir. It's good to see you again. Can you can you give some more um uh information as to what type of vehicles you feel like would be buying these lots?
Well, we think we think we'll have a ton of motor coaches coming in because of what Mississippi State has done. You know, they're letting them go to the equestrian, but they flushed them off campus, so to speak. So, we think, and that's who we'll be targeting. We think in our covenants, we'll restrict them uh like a fifth wheel camper. We want them be able to have a fifth wheel camper, but we want to put a certain length on it. We don't know exactly what the length will be, but I would assume it would be around 40 feet. Uh, so we want to keep good product in there, and I don't know if that answers your question, but primarily motor homes and fifth wheel campers.
Okay. Is there an an expectation of of a length of stay ideally? Well, we were we were, you know, hoping because we'll be selling lots that may be $100,000. Uh we hope that we can get a little relief on that two and a half. We how that reads was a little bit the interpretation was a little bit we weren't sure where it was, but we would like to see the campers RVs be able to stay for a while. Now, we understand they can't stay as a primary resident, and we're good with that, and we're good with no rental. We're not wanting to rent them. We'll restrict the rental even further in the condominium covenants and and documents.
Okay. Yeah. With with with the size of the RVs and coaches that that that you're talking about with with Old West Point Road there and and Gared Road, them being able to pull out on those roads safely. That's all been worked out with the engineers and the in the plans and goals.
We still have to go through full engineer, but the but the modeling of the road and the turn radiuses, we have looked at that. At times you may have a big motor coach come in pulling a jeep and so it is quite lengthy. You may you may be in the late you know 50s 50 feet 60 feet. So all that has to be modeled and we haven't quite gone into complete uh full-blown civil documents but we will be doing that and we have modeled it. We think we have a pretty good approach from a safety standpoint and we did push that road down from troder. The troder connection would have been a problem because you're in the corner and you got that hill you just couldn't see. It would have been really dangerous. Does that answer your question? That's right.
Anyone else with questions of Mr. Defo? Anyone? I'll move on. Oh, I'm sorry. You leaned up and I thought maybe All right. That being said, let me open it as a public hearing. Now will be your opportunity. So, uh, open it as a public hearing for those who wish to speak either for or against. Um, and we have a timer there. So, our city clerk will keep time and if you would identify yourself, please, and let me know what your What's the time limit? 15 minutes.
Okay. My name is William Morgan. I live at 110 Troder Lane. And some of these questions may be directed more toward uh Mr. Parker and his representative, but uh as the lots are sold, the first individual buys that lot. Can they subleasase it or rent it out? uh after it sold who retains overall responsibility for the park the RV park be it they're selling a lot so who retains overall responsibility other than the common areas which I would assume would stay with Mr. Parker. Uh, how will how will it be policed? And if we do extend the two week notice and the RV stays there, who's going to police occupation or it being occupied for two or two or 3 weeks or whatever? Uh, has anyone driven the old West Point Road north or south and made the turn either going toward Parker McIll's or toward uh what would be North Montgomery because turning toward Parker McGill from O West Point Road leaving town, you'll jump the curb. If there's a car at the stop sign, you're not going to make the turn. If you're coming from what would be the fire station on 389 down Garrett turning what would be south on O West Point Road. If there's a car on the bridge per se, you're not going to make the turn. Has anybody even looked at that? There's no way a 40 foot motor coach is going to make the turn at OS Point Road to uh Garrett Extended. Uh can it become an Airbnb?
The one question I'd have and I figure all things said and done, I think this will go through. I think the board will vote it through. But why is there an access on O West Point Road? Because one, you're going to add congestion to O West Point going south, which would be toward 182. And you're not going to make the turn at O West Point Road, either toward Parker McGill or toward 389. Not with a fifth wheel camper in a motor home or even a Jeep or something pulled behind it. Uh, I saw on the notes there was a one vehicle limit in addition to the motor home parking. One of the things from previous experience, I drove a wrecker and whenever there was a ball game and stuff, there were parties and I was always called out to the apartment complexes because the fire station couldn't get through. it being a private road, how is that going to be policed? Uh, this will add to uh sanitation, trash, sewer, water. How's the trash going to be done? Is it going to be dimpy dumpsters? Are each lot going to have its own? Uh trash receptacle, how's that going to be accomplished? uh the burm privacy fence which would be it was mentioned during the city planners meeting last week that there would be a burm or privacy fence and I don't see how you going to put a privacy fence on OS point road maintain the ditch and have parking from that TVA easement so they would lose lots or that's not going to happen and I don't know that
that was addressed during uh his comments from the previous meeting we had last week. Uh again, I had the how long would it be occupied and what determines leaving and what's the limit? I understand the RV parking there being parked there. I would if I spent that kind of money for a piece of concrete, I'd want to leave my RV there. But occupation or being occupied, how long will it be occupied versus is it going to be student housing? I know that the RV lot that I believe is behind what what I call the old Jney jungle going toward the vet school only has one entrance. Why does this have to have two? And I was told the city required the old West Point Road access. So, I'm asking why, if the other one only has one, why does this one have to have two? One, it would save Mr. Parker a lot of money, but two, it would alleviate some of the issues that I have being a property owner and what I feel it will affect my taxes on uh overall. Who polices it? Those were my questions. And I'm here because another neighbor was unable to attend and had sent me notes that he had emailed to the city and wanted uh me to take notes as far as what the response was, which I never heard anything to it. And I can read his email to the city or if y'all have it, his name is Hugh Cam Smith. He's at 109 Troder, my neighbor. And uh any responses to the email that he had?
We have received his email. We have it, but no response to it. No, we're taking information now. We're taking your comments. Okay. Uh that's all I have. All right. Thank you, Mr. Morning. And I appreciate your consideration.
All right. Thank you. Anyone else? Hello, I'm Lucy Center. I'm at 106 Trotter Lane and um I appreciate the opportunity to um discuss this project. Um I honestly never received any communication. There were five homes on Troder Lane and three of the five homes received mail, two didn't. I didn't. So, I was surprised to hear about this when my neighbor called and said there's going to be and she said RV park. But all I heard was park and it was like yes, we're going to have a park and I was thinking another McKe park because it's wonderful, but it's an RV park. And what came to mind was the trailer park that was behind Trotter Lane for years and years and years. And having lived there and experienced what it's like to live next to a trailer park, I equated this RV park with a trailer park. In communication with others, I've been assured that an RV park is not like a trailer park. I've been assured that. But there are still questions about the transient nature of the non-residents who are going to live there. But more importantly, and I have not heard this from anybody, the effect that this RV park is going to have on my property value. when it was originally described, when it was asked, will this have any detrimental property val on will this have any detriment on property values nearby?
The answer was minimum. Well, unfortunately, my house is one of those houses that was considered minimum. So I would like to know what research was done to ensure that there would not be a decrease in property values because all you have to do is go on the internet, ask Google, do RV parks diminish property values and you will see that yes they do. Um, so what am I supposed to do about my property if this goes in? Do I just put it on the market and sell it? We've owned this home since 1966 and now this is going in. We're going to have problems with the roads. We're going to have problems with the bridges. We're going to have problems with city services, I assume, coming in, uh, police, ambulances, way noisier than this little country house used to be. But that's that's progress. I'd like to know what kind of taxes the people who own these lots will have to pay. Are they county taxes? I heard county taxes at the zoning and planning meeting. If they're paying county taxes, do they enjoy city services, police, ambulance, sewer?
Let me let me do let me speak to this one real quickly. And and normally we just listen, but but the city is in the county. So they're paying county taxes and they're paying city taxes. They are gonna pay inside the city limits of Starville. You'll be paying city city taxes as well as county taxes and school and school taxes. Yes. And are they in the city limits? Yes, ma'am. Okay. They are in the city limits.
Okay. Well, that answers that question. Thank you very much. The last question I have has to do with the and I think it was addressed the standards for the type of RV that will be allowed to be in there. Are you going to allow popup trailers, popup campers? Um, you know, they're going to be there's a large variety of different types of RVs, and I would think that there would need to be some form of standardization. So, anyway, um, I appreciate Bill brought up most of the things that I had sent emails about. I'm sure you got a copy of my email. Um, thank you very much and I look forward to to having responses and thank you for your help.
Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone else? I'll close it as a public hearing and now the board can take this under consideration. Do I have a motion? I make a motion to move approval of this. Uh, if if I could just say a couple things. Let me get a second first and then we'll go and I'll second it. Okay, I have a second from all groups.
Yeah, just a couple just to address some of their traffic concerns. I've got a 45 foot motor coach and uh sometimes I pull a trailer that's 30 foot long, so you can do the math on that. And but I'm looking at how this thing I understand this is a conceptual plan, but it's going to probably have to be laid out very similar to this. And I'm looking at how I would get in out of this place. Um, and you know, if I was coming in off of of off of Highway 12, I' i'd probably turn and go up Park McGee Road. You know, depending on where I was in the lot, might might go up to the old West Point Road and turn back. You'd be turning left. So, you'd have, you know, you'd have the the widest turn. It'd be the same thing as you were turning in off of West Point Road. But for for me to go in and out, more than likely, I'm going to use the other road. Most of these RV guys are are like me, we look for the simplest, easiest way in and out of these places and where we make the a turn because again, 40 foot, 45 foot motor coach pulling a a Jeep or a trailer behind it, you know, you're pretty wide. And I I think that that some of the the traffic concerns will are are you know will just not materialize because of these people going to be these these guys are going to be looking the best way in and out and you know the lots are $100,000. I seriously doubt you'll see popups on there. the lots. I have an RV park like this in my ward Starbucks station and I uh am over there a good bit visiting with those guys. I know those guys there are a lot of them are are you know the Mississippi State folks and so I'm I'm over there at that lot and you know I I encourage you to go by and look at it. It's kept spotless, you know, and uh the coaches,
majority of them are probably motor coaches in there, but there are a number of fifth wheels, but again, they'll be, you know, from probably 38 to 42 foot long, the longer fifth wheels. And you know, these people, those lots over there started at in the 40s and now they're selling for almost 100 themselves. So, we've seen we've seen the value increase in in those lots at at the start station, but I I I support this. I think it'll be a good addition for a piece of property that probably not otherwise going to be developed, you know, and and the uh the thing about the lots, they'll be taxed u tax city and county, but uh you know, there won't be any homestead claimed on those lots because those people won't be living there full time. So, they'll pay a higher tax than Most of us that were able to claim homestead may you.
All right. Thank you. Anyone else? All involved. My question I got two three question. Who would monitor how long those RV will be staying there? Who would do the monitoring of that? How long they will stay? I mean we our owners don't allow to stay so long. So who will be monitoring? How long they stay? Some of them might be staying longer. Who who would be monitoring that? And and who would manage the property? because somebody got to manage and maintain the property. So those those two my two big concerns who who going to manage the stayover and how and and and who going to manage the place? Well, they'll have a homeowners association. Mr. Defoe, would you like to speak to that, please, sir? We will set up If you would if you don't if you don't mind,
we we'll set up a condominium uh declaration and owners owners association. And so we'll appoint a manager and and that's how it's governed and manage and may collect, you know, collect fees to keep up the roads and the trash. And uh trash will be central a central location, not individual. We'll have a we'll have a also manage tenant that stayed there too long, he would manage that, too. Uh say that again. They wanted to stay there too long. You said because we got oil to stay so long.
Yeah. And we we would hope that we could get a little bit more than two and a half. I'd like to see that just dropped because we're it it's a big difference on selling the lights as a condominium and renting them as a just a big deal. We're not going to be looking at workers or temporary or weekly or monthly rentals. These guys are going to own it and they may indeed want to come to uh baseball season and stay for three weeks a month. Uh we don't think that's going to happen much, but they may very well do it and they cannot. We will set up where they cannot rent them. No Airbnb. Uh we'll take that off the off the equation. We we think this will go very very well and we think people that are driving these diesel pushers and these big uh what we think that's what our target market's going to be.
Yeah, ma'am. All right. Thank you. All in focus. Yeah. I don't I don't I don't feel like I have the same concerns about about the safety or the maintenance, but I do have the concern right there with the curve on a West Point where there's I know there's a proposed entrance there that can probably be be shifted down. I do want to ask uh Mr. Havlin explain again the purpose of the second entrance and I have a followup after
even on the previous platted subdivision for this that was part of the car dealership there was a connection factor to try to city plan for the 2015 didn't have a connection through there. Uh, and it also provides emergency access to get around the bridge if there's ever an issue with the bridge. So, it's just connectivity is a good thing to have. It's we painted ourselves in the corner. A lot of parts of the city, we have a chance not to do it again here. And so, connectivity is always better. Okay. And and a question out of ignorance of the code to a degree, could that be a gated access for exit only or
eies? can't be gated. Roads could of course be gated as long as they meet some standards as far as how far back off the road somebody's not. Okay. But the public road can't be gated. So at the end of the day, there would not be anything built here that would not meet any study engineering understanding that this is a safe uh intersection.
All preliminary stuff that engineers done like the first thing they were looking at is if you're not going to line up is how far away you are. So they've met that requirement and then they've done some preliminary like where the placement of storm water is and width of roadway sidewalk. They've already looked at a lot of that stuff and it's just kind of a cursory review. Uh we saw like Okay. Thank you. Any other comments? Any other questions? Yes, sir.
I just want to bring up one more point real fast on the twoe uh comment that Mr. Defo keeps mentioning that's part of the additional standards. It's right here at number four and it's written in our code that as part of the special exception request, y'all can change that, add to it, modify it any way you want or delete it as part of the request without an additional process. Okay. So, if that's something the board chooses to do, we can do it now. Okay.
All right. Got it. Thank you. All right. Um, closed this public hearing. We've talked about it. Any other discussion? Any further discussion? I wanted to ask um Alderman Alderman Brooks about the two weeks and whether you thought it was gi given the nature of the kind of vehicles that will be parked there and the usage of those vehicles would it be appropriate to extend that or strike that?
Uh I've I've seen it uh you rarely see it over 30 days. I've seen it be four weeks before and you know in this particular instance like the mayor said you you'll have probably have people coming up that may want to stay for two ball games and there's an open date between you know then you know three weeks to four weeks would would work better in that that particular case but but you know most most of us that own these things I mean we're we're we're moving them around we're taking them other places and a lot of your Mississippi State guys they travel on the bottom of the bulldog wherever they go. But I can see where you know four weeks would work better than than the two weeks that we have there. But I wouldn't go past that because you need you need to get them you know you need to get them out of there ever so often. And again speaking from the start station group they've got they've got that's their rules in place too and they folks leave they have to have to have to leave after whatever their is four weeks from theirs.
Could I could I offer a friendly amendment that changes that to for um part for more than four weeks? Is that where it says that it's uh section of point section four under additional standards point4? Yeah. And yes, you may for no more than four weeks. More than four weeks. All right. Is that acceptable? That's acceptable. And um Okay. Is that acceptable to you all? Seconded it. So
No, I I've got a comment to that. Um they're they're y'all are selling the individual lots. Correct. A lot of time, Mr. Alderman Brooks, um, you keepers in Madison a good bit, correct? And you just park it there and go stay periodically, right? Flying out. That's right.
How does that work though with them purchasing and not leasing? They own the They own the slab that it sits on. So, if they're wanting to keep it there year round, just basically as a storage to some degree, leaving it plugged up where they can stay a night or two when they're in town and then go back That's the only thing. And since they're owning the individual pads, I don't know how that would work with the four-week. I don't know. The homeowners association that Mr. Defoe mentioned would be managing that issue. So, I think that's something that brings up a bigger discussion maybe. I don't know. But I'm okay with four weeks now, but I just think maybe we need to look at revisiting.
Well, we've got I' I've got Let's Let's see if I can hang on to some protocol here. I've got a a friendly amendment that approved by the Are you approving that? Four weeks. You're the You were the second. She's told me not yet. So, go ahead. You were the second. What's Are you withdrawing it? May I May I ask the city engineer question, Mr. Bernett, please? Apparently, because this is in a flood plane, there may be some special requirements about how often things have to be moved.
Yes, ma'am. So per federal code, any mobile homes, recreational vehicles in the flood zone are required by federal law to be moved every two weeks. And those vehicles have to be considered road ready, which means they can't be flat. They have to have gas in them. And there there's actually a community in Florida that makes a parade every two weeks to move as a formality. And so this is a federal requirement. And so I would want the board to know that before you make any So where exactly is it? in the in the blue area there the blue area but this area is designated as a part of our firm update our FEMA firm update and so the proposed preliminary information we have would have the entire that's not accurate right now though it's not accurate now it's anything in the blue zone
but not not yet is that correct or is it currently in the blue zone well this is part of it is yes mood in the future and I I believe some of these may be in the flood. Okay. Well, all right. So, what I'm trying to get at is what we're acting on. We're acting on tonight. Is it the flood plane now? I I believe some of the northern lots may be in the current we can identify them. I'm sorry. Purple area is inside the flood. Okay. So, those would be the ones that would be identified as needing needing to move every two weeks. Is that correct? That's correct. Yes, ma'am. All right. So, do y'all understand? Do y'all understand that? Is it okay,
Mr. Defoe? Come on. So I also understand the FEMA guidelines, you know, even how you the the stubbing of the utilities, if you will, all that has to be a certain distance out of the flood plane. And I believe we are going to remove I believe we're going to be filling the site to remove it out of the flood plane. Okay. We we need to to be able to sell them. And is that I mean is that allowable? There is it's a condition called a a clomar. a conditional letter of map permit based on field, but that has to be approved by FEMA before it's regulatory. So, it's allowed. It's just not allowed until it's completed and gone through the process. That is your plan to do so.
That is your plan to do so. I believe our plan is to lift it out of the flood plane and get another designation removing it from the plan.
Okay. So, back to Well, it was back to a motion associated with you were you were asking about the two to four weeks. So, do you want to put a qualifier to that? Do you want to say out of the flood plane? Is there an appropriate language that we need to add to this in order to create what is necessary as in we expect that those that are in the flood plane to be raised out of the flood plane in order to get the the approval? Well, and and and since the flood plane is going to be updated soon, um, and more of it is likely to be in the flood plane, how do how do we Well, we need to deal with what we got right now. Do we have a second?
I I do. I had a second from you. But on my but her amendment, I don't have a second on her amendment. And her is her amend. Does your amendment stand? Could I ask the board something? Hang on just a second. You want to withdraw it for the time being for further discussion? We need to look at it later. Let's let we can revisit the four weeks when you get closer to um getting getting that not because I I would I would ask to please think about what we're doing. We're really talking about a high-end park
and don't want to be too restrictive because we've got lots of grandparents that come up. They they like the activities. A kid may be graduating and they may stay. They're staying. They're spending money. They're not eating in the RV very often. They're out in the community. They're spending dollars. And so I hate to get too restricted with us trying to kind of sell an up. It's going to be the highest price market that's that there's been. It's a great location. When when do you anticipate these being on the market?
Kind of as soon as we can get started, but we have to go through civil and and the flood plane. We may do some other areas, but the flood plane's going to take a little time. anytime you file for letter provision or cloar or lowar it it it takes time and um but I I would just hope that the the four weeks I I I agree with Mike I think that's probably reasonable but you could have they are owning the lot and you could have where you need more time than than that and the way we were reading the ordinance is we weren't talking about time moving the facility the RV. It was more of you can't live in it as a primary residence is what what we believe it says. And again, we we don't we don't want to live in it as a full-time resident. We we we we are totally in concert with the city. Uh we will also rent restrict it, but don't take too much of them their their joy away from owner ownership of having a lot in there. they're going to want to be in the community and maybe stay the whole football season. I don't we don't we don't know what we're you know what they'll do, but um so anyway, that was just a comment that I would point
but moving it doesn't mean that you have to take it to Madison or Gulfport or Tennessee. It just means you have to leave the area for a minute and come back. So that's right. So but we we don't believe that's the way that reads. We believe additional It doesn't read that it has to be moved every week, but in the FEMA requirements, it is very specific that it has to be in the flood in the flood in the flood. Has to be moved or movable? Both. Both. And I believe we take that out of play when we fill the site and get the map revised.
Are you going to go forward before you get the map revision? We probably will start on the civil and see if we can maybe help the court along. It sounds like they're already studying it and they owe y'all a decision pretty soon. I don't know what that means with the court, but we'll try to move the process. We We need to get started though. All right. So, can I ask for a clarity on the semantics of item four? Is that saying that it it can't stay for two weeks or if it stays beyond two weeks, you cannot live there? deal with it. So, so as of as I'm reading it more,
there is nothing saying that it can't stay. Saying that if it's going to be there and and it likely would, you just can't it can't be your home or apartment. That's right. That's right. And and then it also says you can't rent it. And we're totally totally in concert with the city. No Airbnb or anything like that. Is that all? Yes. Thank you. Sister, let me let me withdraw. Given that, let me withdraw that because the other um the the ordinance that you're referring to would be a separate discussion. So, it's two kind of two things, right? So, let's let's keep the thing the thing. Okay. So, we have a we have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion?
All those in favor, please signify by saying I opposed. Nay. I'm sorry. Was that two names? Okay. Thank you very much. All right. So, motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next is the second public hearing and consideration of amending the unified development code. Mr. Havlin, last but not least for you.
Um, this there hasn't been a lot of changes to this. There's only really been one modification since the last hearing. Uh, this is revision 13. There's 17 proposed changes broken up to four categories. Corrective, updating existing, updating the technical codes, and some new requirements. Uh, some of the corrective stuff is just making sure the math worked out. We had to correct some uh numbering errors that appeared a few sections. That stuff has remained unchanged from the last meeting. And then the updating is just adding some language to site plan criteria. Uh a couple very relatively minor stuff just more clarification purposes. And then the probably one of the biggest things of this is updating all the current building or technical codes to the current or the most recent standard. And uh Steen has done a good job flushing this all out. and then working with contractors and getting their feedback on it and everything so far has been pretty positive. And as part of that or another change I guess is uh some requirements for food trucks and some requirements for outdoor storage as part of a mini storage facility. Uh the way it's currently read you can't have anything outside of a mini storage. This allows for it as long as it's like in the back and not visible. And then some screening requirements. Uh this is probably one of the bigger ones. This is the arch architectural variety standards. This is a requirement that addresses newer subdivisions so that you can't just sort of repeat the same house over and over and over throughout the subdivision. The only change in this is changed some terminology and this section right here. The way it was worded um as you can see previously here was referring to left or right. So we got a little more descriptive where it would apply. And then we added these three figures to like visually show what areas would be affected. And this is just showing that they need to differ by three distinct design elements for it to meet this criteria. And then last but not least was adding or adding more to the heating
requirement in the rental housing code and the cool adding a cooling requirement. And this kind of goes hand in hand with the code updates. It meets those same standards. if there are any questions. Okay. And we still got that. Yeah, I see 80 degrees. Okay. All right. Any questions of Mr. Havlin before I open it as a public hearing? All right. Seeing none, I'll open it as a public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak to this particular item now would be your opportunity. Either for or against. All right. Seeing none, I'll close it as a public hearing. Do I have uh a motion? It is up for consideration. So, uh I have a motion for Pokeup. Do I have a second?
Second. Second from Alderman Skinner. Further discussion. All right. Seeing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying I. Opposed. All right. Motion carries. Thank you very much for your work on that. Appreciate it. You and Steen, Mr. McMullen, you as well. Thank you for your work on that. Okay. All right. Next, we have a public hearing under for 20 section 211911 to determine whether the property located at 515 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Drive West. Start with Mississippi 39759 with parcel number 118-0000-123.00 is in such a statement of cleanliness as to be amended to the public health, safety, and welfare of the community and such that cleanup of the property should occur. Good evening.
Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, board of alderman. I'm officer with code enforcement police department. I'll be uh talking about a 211911 for uh 515 Dr. Martin Luther King Drive Junior Drive West Starville, Mississippi 39759, parcel number 1189 November- Z00123.00. uh the tax document showing this property uh Huitt Wood Products Incorporated. Uh the photographs below were taken from a public uh view of the city road uh by myself at the first inspection on January 7th uh 2026 at approximately 161 hours. Uh the notice of violation was mailed to the property owner on January 9th uh 2026. Uh the public hearing was mailed to the property owner on February 2nd uh 2026. Also posted on the property and also posted on the Sarville City Hall. An administrative inspection warrant was signed by Judge Brian Kelly on January 29th uh 2026. The administrative inspection warrant was executed by myself, Lieutenant Kthers, Lieutenant Gillan, and Officer Harvey, and the building official Steve McMullen on February 2nd, uh, 2026 at approximately 10 12 hours. Uh photos were taken from the interior and exterior of the structure.
Uh drywall was destroyed. Um exposed studs through throughout the structure. It's kind of hard. It's kind of a little blurry up there. Um the ceiling uh also had water damage. Um vegetation was also growing into the open windows. Debris scattered all over the floors. uh in multiple rooms throughout the structure. Uh the interior floor um was had holes and missing boards uh making it unsafe to walk. Again, you'll see that debris continues throughout the structure along with intruding um various vines growing inside from outside. Also the foundation if you look in the support leaning on the opposite direction uh underneath the bottom on the supports where the bricks are. It's kind of hard to see with this picture. On February 17th, 2026, a reinspection of the property was performed by myself at approximately 11:5500 hours. The reinspection showed no change to the property. And there's the reinspection.
Do I have any questions? Any questions of Officer Candy? All right. Seeing none, I see Mr. Hlet in the audience. Mr. Hwlet, do you have anything you'd like to say to the board? Yes, you would come on up here.
Richard Huelet, um, owner of this property and I hate you had to go through all this. I've been I'm going to tear it down. Be glad to tear it down. Um I've been for a couple of months. Uh my wife's father was had broken his hip. We've been out of town. I didn't know this. I didn't know I knew that it had to be torn down, but I didn't know that it was ongoing that I need to do it really quick. So, but anyway, I'll get it. I found out today that it was serious and I need to clean it up. So, I will. Okay. And um what kind of time frame are you looking at to get that? Well, it's uh it's I'm going to have to move a machine over there and get it. I'd say 30 days would be good. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you.
Yeah. I'm sorry. Had to go out. Any questions of Mr. uh Alman? Mr. Hill, you should 30 days. You want a little more? No, he needs 30 days is fine. 30 days. I'm I get it. We We'll get started on it quickly. See, I see you already start putting the fence up around some of it. Yeah. Well, that was on that other side. We we we've been focusing over on the other side cleaning all that up and and we just hadn't gotten to the house yet. So, okay. Thank you.
All right. I need to open it as a public hearing. Anyone in this uh who would like to speak either for or against the declaration of this being a public nuisance in terms of 211911 now would be the opportunity. Anyone? Seeing none, I'll close it as a public hearing. Do I have a motion? Move approval. Have a motion and that would be with 30 days. 30 days. All right. So 30 days from now I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. Second from Alman Cystrunk. Uh again the 30 days is the timeline. All those in favor please signify by saying I. Opposed.
Motion carries. Thank you very much. All right. 30 days. Mr. Heer. All right. Next next next item. Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, boardman again. Um, I will presenting another 211911 on property 794 Old Mayhew Road, Starville, Mississippi 39759, partial number 159- 31-25.03. Uh, the tax document showing ownership of Boyd, Daryl G, and co-owner James Boyd. The photographs below were taken from a public view at the city road by myself at the first inspection on December 31st uh 2025 at approximately 153200 hours. Notice of violation was mailed to the property owner on December 31st, 2025. The public hearing notice was mailed uh to the property owner on February 2nd, 2026. On February 2nd, 2026, public hearing notice was posted on the property and was also posted on the city hall, Starville City Hall. An administrative inspection warrant was signed by Judge Kelly on January 29th, 2026. Uh, the administrative inspection warrant was executed by myself, Lieutenant Kthers, Sergeant Gillan, Officer Harvey, and the building
official, Steve McMillan, on February 2nd, 2026 at approximately 11:27 hours. Photographs were taken from an interior and exterior of the structure. Also, miscellaneous items were scattered throughout the property. Um the bracing uh was holding up walls and giving away from um continuing to fall. You guys can see it over there. Show right right in there. Strong wind to take that one down.
Also insulation falling from water damage due to drywall in the ceiling. uh water damage to the underllayment uh supporting the roof. Um exterior exposed to weather and wildlife. Uh the foundation was collapsed on one side of the of the property of the structure. As you can see, yeah, it's all up and then it's all way completely on the ground. On February 17th, 2026, a reinspection of the property was performed by myself at approximately 115400 hours. The reinspection showed no change to the property.
Do I have any questions? Any questions of officer? All right, seeing none, is the owner here? One quick question. I'm sorry. One quick question. I I always assume that no one is living there, but is that the case? Gosh, I hope no one's living. I I hope not, too. So, yes, ma'am. There's no one living there. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir. Are you the owner of the property? My brother and I'm standing in this I'm sorry. Say your name again. Huh? Say your name again. James Boy. Mr. Boyd. Okay. James Boyd. Yes, sir.
And you know, like the property's in bad shape. I know that. And uh we try can't move some of the junk because it's so wet and rotten down there. Be hard to get a truck anything in there. So we going to need a little time is wait at least till these dry up so we can move some of this stuff. What is it you wish to move, Mr. Boyd? There doesn't seem to be anything in the house. Huh? What is it you wish? I I never moved. I'm sorry. I I wasn't in the house. Yes, sir. I understand. But what is it you wish to move is what I'm asking. Oh, I'm some of that uh uh junk around there.
Okay. But nothing appears to be inside the house. I don't I wouldn't want you going inside the house. It looks like you'd fall through. Well, like I said, I had talked with Off Officer Kundi. Yes, sir. and he said maybe that we could uh you know get the city to tear it down and kind of help clean up the property. Well, the city that's what we're contemplating right now. So, I'm going to ask a quick real quick question of our fire chief or Mr. McMullen since you've been out there. Is that something that is uh worthy of using the training uh for firefighters on or is it already too dilapidated? Okay.
All right, chief. Well, there's a possibility that we could we could use it as a training exercise for the fire department. Well, that would be nice if you could because I had talked to the fire marshal. That would be very nice if you could. All right, hang on just a sec. Officer Kundy, I see your hand. Yes, ma'am. Um, we did talk to the fire chief to try to do it and he said he would feel comfortable doing it. That's why we brought it. All right. Well, I appreciate that then. That answers that. Then, then Mr. board. What we will do is if if the board decides to make that declaration of it being a 211911, then we will dispatch crew that will then take it down and clean the property up and we will put a we will put a lean on the property or else we will invoice you for the cost of doing that.
Okay. So, do you understand that? Yes. because I know officer Cunning he had discussed that with me and um like I said um I don't know what the cost would be you know but he say the city would do a lot cheaper than uh anybody that see told me that may very well be the case and that's kind of where we are right now. So so if you're not choosing to do anything with it then then we're going to be in the position of doing it ourselves and then and then uh putting a charge or lean on the property for doing so. Do you understand that? Mhm. Yes, sir. Well, is there but I know you can't get no kind of estimate on about how much they
No, sir. I I have no idea. It depends on how long it takes us and the equipment that they have to use to do so. But either way it goes, it's got to come down. I know that it's not going back up. No, it's not going up. I know that. All right. Yes, sir. I But u like I say um a lean on the property. Okay. to put a lean on the property, we have to pay for the cleanup, right? Yes, sir. It will be the cost of the cleanup is what is what the lean would be valued at. Okay. Yes, sir. And al so how long we have to pay that back.
That's going to be that's going to be a matter of the of the tax assessor. So it would be it would be a part of the part of the tax be put on the property your taxes. So when you pay your taxes. Okay. Okay. Say for instance if5 or $6,000 that would be on the taxes. Yes sir. Yes sir. But no matter how you slice it, it's going to have to go. Either you do or I I know that. I already know that. It's just a matter of it's just a matter of us making that declaration which I believe from the look of the pictures that we have that it it certainly is justified. Well, I know that. Okay. All right. Well, we we appreciate it. Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Thank you.
All right. I'm going to open it as a public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak to this matter now would be the time. Either for or against declaring this is a 211911. Either for or against. Seeing none, I'll close it as a public hearing. Um, do I have a motion? I just have I just want to clarify ownership because when he got up here, he said that he was the brother of the property owner. Was that Did I hear that correctly? Mr. Condi. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. So, he is a coowner. Okay. Coowner. Just making sure he had the authority to get up there and make that decision. Okay. Well, the decision is ours to make. Well, I mean, as far as the lean and how we want to get rid of Yes. Okay. So, do I have a motion?
I make a motion to approve it. All right. I have a motion from Alderman Morland. Do I have a second? Second. Second from Alman Skinner. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please signify by saying I opposed. All right. Motion carries. Thank you everyone. All right. Next item up is our claims docket. Do I have a motion? So move. I'm sorry, sir. Whatever the subject is, we're done. We've moved. We've moved on. So I'm sorry. I have a motion. Motion for the claims docket. Who did I get that from? I heard Well, I did too. Alman Bon, are you voting for the CLA? Are you making a motion to approve the claims docket? All right. Do I have a second?
Second. Second. Here's I heard Alderman Pokeup. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Nay. Nay. You're trying to get out of here, aren't you? All right. The motion carries. Way to do it. All right. It is. It is. All right. With that, I need to We need to go into a post determination session to do it. I'm sorry. I forgot. I apologize. I'm looking at yellow all over the place. All right. So, uh, utilities department. Item one is authorization to accept the load quote from USA Blue Book in the amount of $35,7754 for replacement equipment for water treatment facilities. Mr. Camp.
Yes, ma'am. Um happy to this. This is the uh equipment we need for the water treatment facilities, the um saturators and the chemical feed booster pumps to um continue that water treatment process. Okay. And that's to comply with comply with our permit with the Is this a EPA permit or a state per state department of health? Yes, ma'am. All right. All right. Um, honorable Morin, you had pulled this off the agenda or off the consent agenda. Would you like to have first conversation?
Well, I would because it was mainly because as ever just said, he mentioned that it was the chemical feed, but it was for the foride and with the public service commission statement advising people to look at that. Um, and then the health concerns with it, even the cost because there's been several, I think it was like 30 something so far in Mississippi that have stopped treating with the fluoride in the last year um, with the cost associated with inflation and we get it from China. So, if it's something that we're not having to treat with and all the renovation and all the stuff we're doing to rehab the water treatment side, something that we didn't need, I was just looking as a called savings on that. And I know that the state requires it, but that's because we tell them we treat with it. I think it's just as simple as telling them we don't want to or treat with it anymore. And I know that that is something that we probably need.
If the state's going to make us quit treating eventually, why dump the money into it? And that's where I stand with it. And that's really it's just from the cost savings because we've raised rates, we've done all those things to try to cover the cost. I think it's our job to do our due diligence, make sure we're saving, too. Mr. Kim, would you like to share with us the process associated with any reduction or removal of fluoride from the process?
Sure. The Department of Health hasn't published a policy if the if you would like to eliminate the fluoride from your treatment process. Um is is outlined and I didn't bring a copy of me, but I'd be happy to provide it to the full board. um it requires a um an action by the board um to to take that and then um the department of health will have a representative come to talk about the benefits and the I guess drawbacks from it. So, a presentation and then there's two public comment portions of the um of the uh process where you have to have a advertisement. You notify all the customers via a bill print or other method. You have a a public hearing u town hall type session where people are able to provide feedback and then the board can take action after that.
Can I ask a question? Moral, did you want to be recognized? Yes, ma'am. Please go right ahead. Okay. Thank you. Um that is when is that with they come to talk to the board. Is that something that is required or is that not an optional thing? You can decline that and then you don't have to go through the other steps. Correct. Because I know Madison County and there's another county um around that area that they did not have to go through those processes.
I I I don't know the answer to that. I'm just going off the policy that was published on the Department of Health's website. So if there is a if there's a option to opt out of that um some of those processes I can certainly uh make a call to the department of health and see what would be required to modif essentially what you're doing is modifying your permit and Brook Haven too is another one that just actually quit treating two weeks ago but so that's where I think that's the town that I read that off of where they didn't have to go through that process. Anything else?
Alderman, I'm sorry. Um, Mr. Kim, does the does the equipment that you're interested in getting the low quote for the 35,000, does it do anything besides fluoride? It's nothing but fluoride. Strictly fluoride. Strictly fluoride. Yes. Okay. All right. All right. Anyone else? All the system. When when you go through this process of not adding fluoride to the water, there's fluoride naturally occurring in the water. Is that not correct?
Yes, ma'am. and but but not at sufficient levels to provide the health benefit for um that that that is associated with fluoride. And and I I'll be honest, the the fluoride controversy is is really quite interesting and goes back decades. And early on the the controversy was that it was a way that Russians were going to be able to take over the United States by making us less uh resistant to whatever. Um so so so it's a longstanding controversy but um I I there's there's um like any drug or or supplement in this case there's a riskreward risk benefit cost benefit kind of thing that you have to look at. And it it truly is helpful particularly in poor areas um in preventing um dental issues. Um it and unless you get to a fairly high level, it it does not have um significant side effects, but the the the impact to the dental care is a life lifelong u improvement in in the health of people. Um, some of us, some of us, I grew up without fluoride and I've paid for it dearly through through the years. Um, there are people who can afford to do these supplements on their own, but a a pretty significant part of our population would not be able to to do this. and and they will be they will be looking at um either poor dental health or significant dental bills um for for most of their life. So So I'm I'm inclined to think carefully through the idea of rem removing the floor or or ceasing the treatment and I'd like to be sure that
we were on solid ground about how you do it if we if we do it. So um yes, do we treat with floor or are we treating with the we're treating synthetic? Correct. Okay. Thank you every difference in the two.
I'm going to say also I am I'm a huge fluoride fan. I grew up on wellwater out west point road and uh I too had had issues and I happen to believe that fluoride is has been very beneficial to our communities and I think it's improved our our dental health which impacts so many things that um people don't even realize impact their health whether it's their cardiovascular system or or any number of other things. So I am I'm a big supporter of of fluoride and I and I see no reason. How long have we been putting fluoride in the water? Do you know? I do not know, mayor. Okay. Long time. I do know that. N. Yes, ma'am.
Nationally since the S since I was going to say the 50s probably, but since the Cold War. Sorry. All right. Anyone else? Any other discussion? Alan Brooks.
Yeah, I'd like to see more research on that before we opt out of this. I I grew up probably poor. We didn't know it, but I was out in the county, Chuckaw County over there on wellwater and my we had really bad dental issues. Uh, you know, we were probably got on, you know, community work and you tell the difference. So, I mean, and I've heard the arguments from the 60s on, you know, about it. And I I don't know that I have enough information to to uh say one way or the other, but I'd like to get more, but at this point, I'd like to stay the course because I've seen the other side. I've lived the other side. had cousins in town had no water and they'd have bad teeth like I do.
That's my thought. So, um could we maybe push this back two weeks and just have some time to potentially study this or is this something that needs to be done? Let's ask that because his
Yeah, we we we are in need of the equipment. Um and I I I mean I'm happy to do whatever the board wants to do. Um add it, not add it. Um certainly to me uh maintaining permit compliance is paramount. You know, I feel like that's one of the charges that you guys have have asked me to do. And and so I I think it's a good discussion to have uh as a board, as a community. And I do think it'll take some time to probably have that discussion and to go through the process if the board so chooses to opt out of it. But in the meantime, I I really do need the the equipment. our our operators need the equipment to um to maintain our permit compliance. What's what's your lead time on the equipment or is it
it's um it'll be a couple of weeks, but it's relatively available equipment. Okay. And if you if we choose to move forward with it and then decide to back out of it, there's you can what resell it to somebody else? I think there'll be a value to it. Yes. because it's pretty standardized equipment and um you know it can be surplused and and resold to another deals.com somebody. Yeah. Okay. All right. Any other Alderman Vaughn? Until then, let's go ahead and approve it. Okay. Is that is that a motion? That's a motion. Okay. I have a motion from Alderman Vaughn to approve the purchase or accepting the low quote. Do I have a second? Second. Second from Alderman Cystrong. All right. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I
opposed. Nay. Well, I heard a second. Nay. Who does who here? Oh, okay. All right. So, all right. That that does take us down to close session. Um, can I get a motion to go into close determination session to determine the need for executive session? Sorry, did I hear that from Alman? Do I have a second? Second. All right. Alman Poker. Thank you. All those in favor, please signify by saying I opposed. All right. We are. If you would please clear the room and we
Nobody else out there?
Okay. Uh, well, Chief, the board has authorized me to go in. item to this work session within one hour of this meeting by posting such notice at city hall. The notice of the work session should be made a part of the minutes of the board meeting. The work session will be an open public meeting of the city of Start with the public press are invited to attend. May I have a motion to adjurnn?
Motion to adjourn. All right. Call second. Second. All right. Alderman Skinner. Thank you. All those in favor signify by saying I. Opposed. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are in adjournment. Thank you so much. I appreciate all of your indulgences today.
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