Board of Aldermen - Regular Meeting

Good morning, Chevette. What address are you here for?

Good morning. No, I'm a neighborhood transformation manager with SLDC in Walnut Park. Okay. Good morning.

I just let in phone number 618-567-9708. What address are you here for? It's star six to unmute.

Do I have anybody here for 4704 Gravois? Do I have anybody here for 4250 South Broadway? And do I have anybody here for 2520 North Grand? Is he back out there?

No, there's none.

Hi, Ann.

You got your hand raised? Yeah, thank you. I am not the petitioner, of course, but I was here for the Gravois property. We haven't been able to get in touch with them on our questions. We were going to ask for an extension today to have them get back to us on all the questions that groups have asked. Okay.

Did you just let somebody in? 417-396-2299. Hi, phone number 417-396-2299. What address are you here for? It's star six to unmute on a cell phone.

We're at the alderman did in the neighborhood Association of them that they want to Do I have anybody here for 4704 Gravois Avenue, the owner? If you're on a cell phone, it's star six to unmute. Do I have anybody here for 4250 South Broadway? And do I have anybody here for 2520 North Grand? Okay, it's 830, so we're going to go ahead and get started. You ready? Good morning, everybody. My name is Sandra Long, Hearing Officer for the City of St. Louis Conditional Use Hearings. My colleague, Deborah McLemore, and I will be conducting today's scheduled hearing on applications for our conditional use permits. We are recording these hearings as a permanent record. We ask that you remain on mute if you are not giving testimony. If you are calling by phone, it is star six to mute and unmute. If multiple people are sharing a screen, we ask that only one person speak at a time and please restrain from side conversations during an individual's testimony. These requests are made so we can accurately record the information and hear from those giving testimony. When each address is called by Ms. McLemore, I ask that the applicant or representative indicate you are present. I will then ask you to state your name and your address for the record. after time of questions with the applicant i will call for testimony from any persons in favor of the application then i will ask for testimony from any persons in opposition to the application following today's hearing our office will make a recommendation to the board of public service which is a separate department here at the city they will make the final determination as no decision will be made here today therefore you are welcome to leave or stay on the call and listen The Board of Public Service will notify the applicant by mail regarding the findings of your conditional use permit. Deborah, will you please read the first case?

AHO 13661-26, 5439 Clover Avenue, Ward 13, Zone 8, Single Family Dwelling District. Do I have anybody here for 5439 Clover Avenue? That's me, Kenneth Ward.

Kenneth Ward? Okay.

Yes. Morning.

Good morning. Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

I'm here to have a hearing concerning me having my home as my office and workspace.

I'm going to turn up my sound just a little bit here. Are you a home contractor?

Yes, I am.

What kind of construction do you do? Do you do rehab work or new construction or both?

I do rehab work.

How long have you done this type of work?

22, 23 years.

Okay. Do you have to have any special training or licenses to do this work?

No. Okay.

Will you have anybody working with you?

I'll have one person working with me.

Okay. They need to meet you at the site and not at your house?

Yes, they meet me at the site always.

Okay. Will you prefabricate items such as cabinets or ductwork?

No. Okay.

How do you dispose of construction debris?

We always call a roll-off dumpster to come and pick up all the construction debris. It never leaves the site. It goes in the dumpster and then they take it to wherever they're going to take it.

Okay. How do you advertise your business?

Most of the time we get a lot of our referrals from the pros at Home Depot.

What tools and equipment will you use to do your job?

Drills, saws, jackhammers, screwdriver hammers, etc.

Where do you store your equipment at?

It stays in my truck.

Okay. Do you have any signage on your vehicle?

Do I have any what, ma'am?

Signs on your vehicle?

No. No, I do not.

Have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association for their support.

I just moved into the neighborhood not that long ago.

I got a letter of support from Pam Boyd yesterday. So you do have a.

Yes I know her.

Okay. Okay. So these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

Will I be deprimental, you said?

Yeah, will it be detrimental?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No, ma'am.

Is there anything else you want to add?

Me? Yes. This is all new to me. I'm from New York and we We don't do it that way there, but the point is I, I do need a license, uh, to, to operate in St. Louis and that's what this is for. And, uh, all are we doing is what we do. Um, there's nothing room where I'm going to add that the questions answered all the questions answered. And my answers are basically exactly what goes on with this company.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you.

Is there anybody online in support of this application? Is there anybody here opposed to this application? Thank you. We call this hearing heard. Thank you, Mr. Ward.

You're welcome. Is that it?

That's it. You can go. Or you can stay if you want.

Thank you. Y'all have a wonderful day.

You too. Deborah, will you please read the next case?

Yes. A O P dash 1, 3, 5, 5, 1, dash 2, 6, 4, 7, 0, 4, 4, 4, 1, zone F neighborhood commercial district and Beaver mill special use district.

Is there anybody here? The owner for 4, 7, 0, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4. Uh, yes. Can I get a name and mailing address for the, for the record?

Yes, my name is Thurham Allen Laver, and the address is 4704 Grabois Avenue.

Will you please spell your name?

P-H-E-R-G-H-A-M. Last name is A-L-M-O-A-I-B-E-R. Are you who was just in our office? I think so, not too long ago.

Okay. Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

Yeah, I just need a conditional use hearing for the I need a business license for the store that I just opened up.

You want to describe a little bit about your store?

Yeah, so it's pretty much just a convenience store. It's a it's like a Middle Eastern convenience store. And we have everything from like just regular items we stock on the shelves to refrigerated and Frozen items. Just a regular corner store almost or a convenience store.

How large is the building?

Say that one more time, please.

How large is your building?

It's about 1,200 square feet. I'm on floor one. There's apartments above me.

What kind of items do you sell in the store?

We have everything from like frozen Frozen, I'm trying to think. Like, we have frozen chicken. We have some frozen meats. We have milk, cheeses. We have bread, honey, chips, candy, snacks. We have cigarettes. Just, you know.

Are you going to sell any alcohol?

No, we're not selling alcohol.

Are you going to do any cooking? Are preparing any food?

No cooking. Okay. No, no cooking.

Will there be other uses in the store besides the convenience store, such as selling, like, glasses or anything like that, cell phones?

No, not at all.

What would your hours of operation be?

We're from 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. Is that every day? Yes, every day.

How many employees do you anticipate having?

It's just me.

Just one? You're going to work from 9 a.m. to 10 p.m.?

Yeah.

Do you have any parking spaces?

Yeah, we have parking in front of the building.

Is that on the street?

It's on the street, yes. Okay, so you don't have a parking lot or anything.

Okay. Do you have an area for shipping and receiving that won't block traffic?

Yes, we do. We have a little driveway they can pull into.

Okay.

Do you have exterior lighting or surveillance cameras installed?

Yes, we have cameras installed.

Will you make them available to law enforcement if needed?

Of course.

How will you be disposing of trash?

Trash. We have a dumpster in the alley. And we're contracted with Republic. Yep, with Republic Service.

All right. So this is a drug paraphernalia condition I'm going to read to you. And if you plan on selling any of these items, now is the time to talk about it, OK? There shall be no sale of items that can be used or are intended for use as drug paraphernalia as defined in Ordinance 68404 or its successor ordinances, including but not limited to food scales, glass tubes, disposable lighters with pop-off tops, steel scrubbing pads and screens, rolling paper, ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, diet supplements, sleep aids, bath salts, or other substitutes for illegal drugs. In addition, there shall be no sale of cigars or cigarillas commonly used or adapted for use involving a controlled substance, examples of which include but are not limited to the following, Billy's, Dutch Masters, White Owl, Swisher Sweets, Splitterillos, Backwoods, Optima, Garcia Vega. Do you plan on selling any of these products?

No.

No cigarillos?

No, no cigarillos, no backwoods, nothing like that.

Okay. Are you going to install any signs?

Signs?

Outside, like this morning?

We have signs in front of the building.

Do you have permits for them? You need a permit for any sign you put up that advertises.

Okay. Okay.

So just so you know, if you got signs up now, you need to get them permitted before your occupancy will be permitted. You need to understand you won't get your occupancy unless they're permitted, okay?

Well, what I was going to say is the signs on the building is from the previous owners.

Okay.

So it's not...

You might want to double check with those to make sure, maybe after this meeting, and make sure you've got permits for them. So have you reached out to your alderman or your neighborhood association for their support?

Yes. They called me not too long ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Well, I understand. I have a letter from your neighborhood association asking for a continuance because they haven't met with you. Have you reached out to the Beville Mills Special Use District?

I haven't personally reached out, but I thought I spoke to them on the phone when they reached out.

Okay, because they're asking for our continuance because they don't have enough information from you to give you a lot of support. And then I think the alderman's here but also wants a continuance. So we're probably going to go ahead and continue your application until you meet with your alderman and your neighborhood association.

Okay. And how do I reach out to them?

Okay. Your alderman's on the line.

I didn't know I had to do that.

So she'll probably come up and talk after this. And she can give you the information for the Neighborhood Association too. Or I can give you an email. Do you have a pen in front of you?

Yes, I do.

Okay. It's Bevocid. It's B-E-V-O-C-I-D at gmail.com. And that goes to their district manager for the Neighborhood Association.

OK, thank you.

OK, I got a couple more questions to ask you. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to neighboring property by hindering use or reducing their own property values?

I'm sorry, could you please repeat that?

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring properties by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No.

Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to add right now?

I mean, honestly, the only thing that I was caught off guard by was the fact that I had to reach out to the neighbor. I didn't know that was... That was something I had to do, that it was mandatory. But other than that, no, I'm just here trying to get the license and everything that's needed for me to run this store.

Yeah, apparently they've been trying to reach you. So we'll probably continue this until you call me and tell me that you've met with the Alderman and the Neighborhood Association. So you have to call us back to get back on an agenda, okay?

So would I have to wait for the next hearing?

Yes, you'll have to wait because we're going to have to hear it. It'll be another public hearing.

And that's next month?

You can give me a call after this meeting and we can talk about it. I'm going to give you my phone number, okay? It's 622- Okay, thank you.

Wait, hold on, let me get my phone.

That's okay.

Okay, what was the number?

622-3666. And my name's Sandy. 3666.

OK, thank you so much, Andy.

OK. Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? OK, we'll call this hearing heard. Go ahead and give me a call after the meeting and we'll get you all the information you need. OK, sir.

OK, thank you.

You're welcome.

You have a good day.

You can.

5, 6, 2, 2, South of every week, please read the next one. I started reading.

A O P that's 1, 3, 6, 4, 2, that's 26, 5, 6, 22, South grand Boulevard, Ward 3, the neighborhood commercial district.

Yeah.

Do I have anybody here for 5622 South Grand?

Yes.

Can I get your name and a mailing address for the record?

My name is Derek Robinson, and the mailing address is 5622 South Grand Boulevard, St. Louis, Missouri, 63111.

You want to explain what you're doing here?

Yes, I'm Derek Robinson. I'm the owner of Big Smoke Eatery. I'm requesting approval for the city of St. Louis to open a family-owned sit-down and carry-out restaurant at 5622 South Graham. As a local-owned small business, my goal is to become a positive part of the neighborhood to provide high-quality food, excellent customer service, local jobs, and a clean, safe environment for people in the neighborhood. I also pledge to keep things clean, maintain a good restaurant, have regular trash pickups, keep the property free of litter, keep outdoor trash containers empty daily, provide adequate exterior lighting design that does not sign into neighbors' homes or businesses. I have cameras installed to deter any criminal activity. and just basically provide food for the neighborhood.

How big is your restaurant, sir?

It's about 600 square feet.

Is it a sit-down restaurant?

They can come in and sit down. We have a few tables, not many. It's not like we're doing waiter service.

More carryout?

Yeah, more carryout. Okay.

How many tables will you have?

Four tables. Two tables have four chairs, and the other two tables can seat two.

Okay. How many employees do you anticipate having?

Three. Okay.

Do you have any off-street parking spaces?

We don't have a parking lot, but it is off the street in front of the business.

Okay. What will your days and hours of operation be?

We're trying to do... We're going to be closed on Monday. Then we're trying to do Tuesday through Thursday from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. Then Friday through Sunday from 8 a.m. to 11 p.m. To 11 p.m.? Yes, ma'am. I also reached out to the, I also already have a letter of support from the Alderman Shane Combs. As well, I have a letter from them supporting us trying to open.

I do not have that letter from Shane Cohn, so can you email that to me?

Yes, I do have it here, but I will email it to you.

I'm going to put my email in the chat. I'll just email it there.

Okay, and it'll be there where it says chat?

Yeah, it's zoning at stlouis-mo.gov.

there if you can see it yeah i see it i also um have some signatures i went around the neighborhood i have signatures from lovely nails um the chinese restaurant two doors down the mechanic shop across the street auto solutions and then a few people from the neighborhood as far as i got about 11 signatures if you can email me all that stuff i'll put it in your file Okay.

I mean, you can take pictures of it, and if you don't have it on email, just send it to me, that one.

Yes, ma'am. Okay.

What types of food are you going to serve?

We'll be doing breakfast all day, breakfast food all day, basically sausage, bacon, eggs, turkey, bacon, turkey, sausage. Different styles of eggs, pancakes, waffles. We'll be doing fried foods, chicken, fish, shrimp, cheeseburgers, pizzas, and then some smoked meats like barbecue ribs, rib tips, polo sausages, and chicken.

Sounds wonderful. Will you have any alcohol?

No alcohol.

And no outside seating?

No outside seating.

Do you have access to a commercial dumpster?

Yes, we have Republic.

Okay.

Also, we have a grease company that comes in to spoil a little grease.

Okay. Do you have an off-street loading area?

Yes, it's towards the back of the building. It's off to the side where they can pull up and they won't stop or block any traffic.

Okay. Are you going to post any signs around the building?

I'm thinking about doing just window signs on the inside windows, but I'm not doing, like, big lighting signs or anything like that.

Okay, they're still going to need to get permits, so make sure you come to City Hall and get permits for them, okay?

Yes, ma'am.

How many exits does the restaurant have?

We have a back exit through the kitchen, and then in the front we have two double doors and then a side door exit.

So you got three all together?

Yes.

Is it ADA accessible?

Yes.

Do you have a walk-up window or a drive-through?

No, ma'am.

Have you reached out to your neighborhood association or alderman? You said you have a letter from Shane, right?

Yes, I have a letter from Shane.

Yeah, just make sure you get all of them to me as soon as you can so I can put them in the meeting.

As soon as we get out the meeting, I email them over.

Okay. Okay, these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our property values?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add? No. Okay. Well, thank you much for your time.

I do have one question, though. Will it be okay as far as outdoor cooking?

We can put that on there. that you want to do outdoor cooking?

Yeah, it's just like one or two small grills.

That's good. You brought that up. Are you going to do it on the sidewalk or do you have somewhere out back?

Yeah, out back. We have an area out back that the landlord said that it would be okay for us.

Okay. As long as it's not encroaching on the sidewalk in the front, you should be okay.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Is there anybody in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? We'll call this hearing heard. Thank you. Deborah, will you please read the next case?

Yes. ALP 13647-26, 5901 Delmar Boulevard, Unit A 110, Ward 10, Zone G, Local Commercial and Office District.

Do I have anybody here for 5901 Delmar Boulevard?

Yes, ma'am.

It's me.

It's Monet Beatty.

And a mailing address?

For the business or personal? Wherever you can receive mail. Okay. I'll do the business. It's 5901 Delmar, suite 110, 63112.

You want to explain a little bit of what you're doing in your business?

Yes. So what I'll be doing is salon and wellness suites. where individuals will, entrepreneurs will be able to put their business in a private suite of their own.

So you're renting suites out to people?

Yes, ma'am.

Are they like rooms or something?

Yes, they're individual rooms. It was formerly a dialysis center. So it's already the rooms are already there. So it would be people like massage therapist, lash technician, different things like that that would rent the private suites.

How big is the, how many suites will you have?

So I will occupy 3,100 square feet of the space. And there is about nine, nine to 10 suites.

So each of your people will need to come in here and get an incidental business waiver. It's a twenty dollar fee. So you can when they come to rent from you, you need to let them know that.

Yes. Yeah. They told me at the business center.

OK, good.

Yeah.

So the main reason you're here today is for massage therapy, because that requires the hearing. So have you been checked out by the state or anything for massage therapists? Are you a massage therapist?

No, my license is in cosmetology. And of course, with it being a rental, I don't know who I'll get, but massage therapists are listed on there.

So I'm not sure if they'll have to have a hearing like this. They might, the massage therapist may need their own separate hearing. Okay. I think they will. So are there going to be independent contractors, not employees? Correct. Okay. What types of products will you sell?

So I don't personally sell products myself. I believe she put it on there just in case some of those renters wanted to sell product. Let me see.

Is this an incubator? Right. So they don't need incidental business license, but the massage therapist will need their own hearing. Okay. Okay. So we may end up having her get an incidental business waiver. Okay. So what each worker was going to sell to their own clients with retail sales?

Right. And that's if they do. But yes, it will be to their clients.

Do you have any off street parking?

So there is a parking lot on the back of the building and it's public parking. So it's not ours privately, but there is a parking lot on the back of the building.

What are your days and hours of operation going to be?

So it'll be seven days planning on 8 a.m. until 9 p.m.

Okay. Do you have access to a commercial dumpster?

Yes.

Do you have a loading area that doesn't block traffic?

Well, we do have a back entrance, but I don't anticipate us loading or unloading anything.

Just in case you're needed.

Mm-hmm.

Are you going to post signs outside your building?

Yes, ma'am.

So make sure you get them permitted through the city.

Mm-hmm.

Is the space ADA accessible?

Yes.

Have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association? Yes.

If I have anything, I have a letter. Yeah, I believe they sent over should be, I think maybe three or four letters.

I have four letters altogether. One from the alderman and then three from neighborhood association.

Yes.

Okay. So these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairment property value?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

Nope, that's pretty much it. Okay, well, thank you for your testimony.

Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak. Okay, we'll call us here and heard thank you. Ever we please read the next case.

A B 6, 0, 8, 5, 10, 2, 6, 40, 2, 50, Tom. We're away or 8, though, and then the commercial district and though J And that's the history.

Do I have anybody here for 40 to 50 South Broadway. Yeah, because if he's out there. If you're on a phone and star 6 to me. Are you here for 40 to 50 South Broadway.

Yes, ma'am speaking.

Okay, we're going to just came in our office a little bit ago.

That's the landlord, yes.

I was going to have him come in and sit with us, but he left.

He's gone, I believe.

Oh, he could have came.

I'm here. I can hear you.

Okay. Do you want to tell me, are you the owner of the business?

I am. Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Can I get your name and a mailing address for the record?

Yes. My name is Abdullah Abraham. Mail address 6624- Fox Creek Drive, Edwardsville, Illinois, 62025.

Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

Yes, I'm trying to do a nightclub in Casablanca with food and full menu with drink, alcohol from 5 p.m. to 1.30 p.m. Is that seven days a week? Seven days a week, yes ma'am.

1.30 a.m. you mean?

1.30 a.m., yes.

Is it a full drink restaurant and bar?

Yes, correct.

You have food and drink?

Food and drink and hookah lounge as well. And hookah? Yes. Yes. as I linked to you in the letter.

You have to have some kind of separation for your hookah lounge. You only have to get with the health department for that. Okay.

Most definitely. Yes, correct.

Have you applied for your liquor license?

Yes, I did. Okay.

How big is the lounge?

Well, I have the lounge is exactly about 14,000 square feet.

Do you know your occupancy load yet?

Excuse me, one more time.

Do you know how many people will?

Yeah, we'll accommodate almost about between 300 to 400 max.

Okay. Do you have a parking lot?

I have a parking lot. I have 40 parking lots with a free handicap and with one loaded handicap for a van. Yes.

You have 40 parking spaces?

Absolutely, yes, ma'am. Okay.

How many employees will you have per shift?

Well, it's going to be just one shift. It's going to be between 10 to 15 full-time employees, and we're going to have at least four to six part-time employees. Okay.

And what days and hours? Oh, you already gave me your days and hours, didn't you? Is that the absolute max you want to ever open up is 5 p.m. to 1.30 a.m.?

Well, as I spoke with you personally and I spoke with another personnel, right now, ISIS is not open until, I'm trying to open it until 3 a.m., but I know it's not permitted yet, so I'm trying to work on that in the future.

Okay.

Do you have access to a commercial dumpster?

Absolutely. We have eight yard dumpsters in the back of the building. We have a special area for it.

Okay.

And in the front, we have, yes.

Is the lounge ADA accessible?

Say one more time.

Is it ADA accessible?

Yes, correct. Okay.

How many exits do you have?

We have two exits in the back and we have two entrances as well.

Okay, so you have four all together?

Correct. Two in, two out.

Do you have outside seating?

No outside seating, no ma'am.

Okay.

Are you going to post signs?

We're going to post signs in front of the building and on the side of the South Broadway building. So we're going to apply for two. signage. Yes, correct.

Make sure you get permits for any signs you post.

Absolutely.

Have you reached out to your alderman or your neighborhood association?

Yes, I did. I spoke with Mike Sweeney, the president of Mount Pleasant, and I submitted a letter to you guys, and I spoke with Miss Jamie, the alderman, and we have a lot of support we have really great support from the neighborhood association and they really respond to us immediately and they're really excited about the project and hopefully we can open as soon as we can so i do not have any of those letters of support so can you get those emailed to me right after this meeting absolutely ma'am okay you you have a pen i'll give you the email send it to i i have your email already you have my email i was Yes, I was yesterday in your office, and I thought you have it. But anyway, I already have it. I got it back in May 6th.

Yeah, you need to get that back to me because it's not in your file. Okay.

Yes, ma'am. I can do that.

Make sure you do it before as soon as this meeting is over with so we have it for your file.

Okay. I can send it to you right now if you like. That would be good. Okay. Okay. All right.

These are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No, ma'am.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our inherent property values?

Not at all. No, ma'am.

Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to add?

No. Just what I submit the drawing to you guys, to Mr. David, and submit all the licenses. I'm trying to get the license done by you, and hopefully we can get it as soon as possible.

Okay, make sure you get those letters to me right away, okay?

I'm going to send it as soon as we have it.

Okay. All right, thank you. Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak?

Yes, ma'am.

Can I get your name and mailing address, please?

Uh, Kit Lee, K I E T. Last name is Lee L E. Okay. What would you like to address? Oh, you want the address?

Yes. I want your address.

6547 Devonhurst Drive, St. Louis, Missouri 63129.

Thank you. What would you like to add?

First of all, I would like to thank you for the time for the hearing today. And as I said, we got the letter of support from the neighborhood association and as a landlord, I will follow and we'll do all the recommendation and request. Okay. And we will do that in a timely manner before the opening of that bar.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Thank you, ma'am. You have a good day.

You too. Is there anybody else in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? Okay. We'll call this hearing heard. Thank you. Have a good day.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Deborah, will you please read the next case?

Yes. AB-583410-24 2520 North Grand Boulevard Ward 11 Zone 8 Area Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 2520 North Grand?

Yes.

Can I get your name and mailing address for the record?

Monique Buchanan 25 334 North Grand Boulevard, St. Louis, Missouri, 63106.

Do you want to explain what you're doing?

We have an emergency and transitional housing facility. And when I first registered our registers as a domestic violence facility, But because we had a fire eight days after I purchased, I wasn't able to do a domestic violence facility. I'm doing emergency and transitional housing. So I am pleading with the city to change the 24 hour security on site because it's causing a huge financial difficulty for me. And basically the facility is very quiet. It's basically individuals that are referred from case managers like SLU Hospital. I have basically tenants that are 45 years and older. So it's a very quiet facility, but we are saving money. We were quoted for an electric gate so the tenants could use five keys to get in and out. So that's what I'm saving for now to get that gate installed.

Do you currently have 24 hour security?

We have overnight security. I had an LVT 24 hour security system that was $3,800 a month that live watched and recorded the facility. Now we have a security system that records and cameras on the entire facility.

Well, one of your conditions was you had to have security onsite for 24 hours a day, seven days a week. So you don't have onsite security right now?

Well, we just got rid of this. We had three security guards in the LVT system, but when we didn't do the domestic violence and that LVT system ended up being like 48,000. And then we had ADT and live security guards there. We had three guards there for three shifts, but now since we are fully occupied and we didn't do domestic violence, it was causing a financial hardship for me. I have security, but that's what I'm trying to change now, if possible.

Okay. And have you had any problems? Have you had the police called there?

When I did the cold blue, we have had police call, but that's because we've had elderly clients that have had like illnesses, not for fighting. I think I've had one disturbance call. A lot of the calls are from people from the neighborhood, not per se my tenants. But I have had calls in the wintertime when I did the cold blue. That was the emergency housing call. that was for four months a part of the city.

What kind of calls did you have?

I had calls like sometimes I might have to call to get something when they didn't follow the rules, they had to leave the program. And I didn't want my security or myself to have to engage with them personally just to keep everything calm. So I would call the police to get those individuals removed. So cold blue was a program through the city to help people from not freezing in the cold. So those people were dropped off, but that program is over. So now I currently have tenants that are renters that pay rent.

How long do they stay?

They can do 12 to 18 months. Okay. Okay. Is there anything else we need to know? I just like to say the facility has been doing really, really great. I feel like it's an asset to the JBL community. I'm very involved with the neighborhood association in the St Louis city continuum of care. And basically another thing I want to say. 90% of the tenants are 45 to 50 and up. We only have two individuals that are like in the 20s. So it's basically more like a nursing home now. The calls we did have were only to remove people from that cold blue program, the transition when they had to leave. And then I had a call recently where I had to call the ambulance for a guy walking down the street that was having an asthma attack. So most calls are for ambulatory.

OK. OK. Well, thank you for your testimony. Thank you. I have to ask you these questions. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare? What did you say? Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

It won't be.

No, it's not. Will the youth cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing their own property value? No. Is there anything else you'd like to add? I would like to add that the... Come back computer.

Family and...

It says that's lost her. So we lost her. I can hear you. We lost our Internet connection for a minute, so you're gonna have to say whatever you said all over again. OK. OK, well, thank you very much for your testimony, OK? Thank you. Is there anybody in support of this application? Is there anybody here opposed to this application? Okay, we'll call this hearing heard. Thank you, Moni. Thank you so much.

Everybody?

Yeah.

We have a good day.

Thank you. I don't know why. Can you see me? I see two of you. I did. Oh, okay. I see my name and I'm like, I hope, does she see me? Because I can't see me.

I saw you. I have a Daryl Henderson on here, our Did we miss somebody? Okay, we'll call this hearing heard.

Yeah, yes, I'm on here.

Okay, what are you here for, sir?

The vet had sent out, I think some concerning, I forgot what address it was. Let me look and see. Something on the address property that was on here.

Were you trying to testify about it?

Well, I'm just listening to what, you know, what was... Oh, okay.

That's fine. I just want to make sure I didn't miss you when we went through our testimonies. All right. Well, have a good day, everybody.

Okay.

Bye-bye.