City Council - Regular Meeting

Thursday, May 14, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
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St. Cloud, FL
Meeting Date
May 14, 2026

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8:37 – 9:560

Call this meeting to order. All right. I'd like to ask uh Mayor Nathan Blackwell from the Cornerstone Family Church, former mayor uh city of St. Cloud to come to the podium for the invocation. Would everybody please stand? May we pray. Heavenly Father, it's been a beautiful day today. We want to thank you that you've allowed us to enjoy it. I pray your richest blessings on everyone who's here tonight. I pray you'd bless them, their health, and their families. Pray especially for our city. God, you've been so good. I just pray that you'd continue to bless our city. I know that we're growing and it presents a lot of challenges. I just pray especially that you would bless all of our staff as they continue to faithfully serve our residents. I pray especially for all of our first responders, Lord, as they serve us and keep us safe. I pray, God, that you might uh keep them safe. I pray, Father, you would bless our city council as uh they make decisions that have a tremendous impact on the lives of our residents and on our city. I pray you'd give them wisdom. I pray that they might seek your face. And I pray, God, that you might bless our city in the days that are ahead in big ways. And we'll thank you for it. In the name of Jesus Christ, I pray. Amen.

9:55 – 10:350

Amen. All right. Thank you, Pastor Blackwell. Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Will the clerk please call the role? Mayor Robertson, here. Deputy Mayor Gilbert, here. Council member Paul here. Council member Urban here. Council member Fletcher. All right. Thank you. And city manager, do you have anything to add to the agenda?

10:33 – 11:000

Yes. Thank you. I'd actually like to ask that we remove the first reading uh number one for ordinance 2026-25. It will come back at a later date. And that's the only update I have. Thank you. Which one? I'm sorry. Um, it's under first readings. The first reading under first readings, ordinance 2026-25.

11:00 – 11:440

Thank you. All right. And I would like to add to the agenda uh for council to vote on. Obviously, um, it's a been amazing month here at City of St. Cloud. We've, you know, we love to celebrate our community. We love to celebrate our public safety, our police, our fire. Um so in the name of that I'd like to present a proclamation uh for um Emergency Medical Services Week, National EMS Week, uh National Boating Week, and National Police Week. And I'd like to ask for a vote on that. And I'm going to go ahead and uh if we can get a motion on that. Motion to approve.

11:44 – 12:270

Second. All right. We have a motion from Deputy Mayor Gilbert, second from Council Member Urban. All those in favor state I I opposed. Motion carries. Should I do an individual roll call? It really doesn't matter. It doesn't sir. Right. All right. Thank you, sir. All right. First up, we have proclamation recognition of older Americans month to Let's go ahead and I'll come on down to the podium. All right, we have Proclamation Employee of the Month, Older Americans Month to Dearius Gutierrez.

12:34 – 13:440

Thank you, Mayor and Council. On behalf of our CEO Wendy Ford, the entire Oola Council on Ning team, and all the older Americans living in St. Cloud, it is an honor to accept this proclamation recognizing the older Americans Months. Older Americans Month led by the administration of community living is a time to celebrate strength, wisdom, and lasting contributions of other adults in our communities. It's also a reminder that aging is not simple about years. It is about impact, resilience, and the relationship that shaped our lives. We are deeply grateful for this proclamation and for the continued commitment and partnership with the city of St. Cloud to serve and honor older adults, not just this month, but every day. Thank you for your commitment to make this a livable community for older Americans and for your continued assistance in supporting and serving the other citizens in our community.

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Thank you.

13:44 – 15:300

Yeah, sorry it's a little warm up there, folks. Uh I'm going to go ahead and read the proclamation. Uh whereas Ocula County is home to older adults who have shaped our community through their service, work, leadership, and commitment to family. And where is older American month provide an opportunity to recognize the strength, wisdom, and contributions of older adults while reaffirming our commitment to supporting their independence, dignity, and quality of life. Whereas communities thrive when people of all ages are connected, engaged, and valued. where in 2025 the Ocula Council on Aging supported older adults by providing 124,785 homed delivered meals along with provision of 96,520 hours of inhome services, thousands of hours of adult day healthc care services promoting safety and social engagement to 96 clients and the dedicated service of 447 volunteers who gave 26,426 hours of their time. And whereas these services reflect the strength of intergovernmental partnerships and the shared commitment of families, caregivers, volunteers, and the community leaders to ensure older adults can age with dignity and connection and purpose. Whereas through collaboration across generations, we can combat isolationism, uh, promote wellness, and build a community where any every older adult is respected and valued. Now, therefore, I Christian B. Robertson, mayor of the city of St. Cloud along with city council here here do hereby pro proclaim the month of May 2026 to be older Americans month and we urge every resident to take time this month to recognize older adults and the people who serve and support them as powerful and vital individuals who greatly contribute to community. We are stronger together across generations.

15:42 – 16:080

I'm warm up here, folks. A lot of hot air in the room. Uh, next up we have employee of the month to Ricardo Perez Villain Noeva uh by Edward Swap. Mayor, council,

16:06 – 16:540

my name is Ed Swap. I'm the natural resource superintendent. I have the honor to uh nominate Ricardo Perez for employee of the month. Uh he is um if you do not know Ricardo, he is the jack of all trades or jack of all Ricardos. He uh he wants to make things look better in the city and lives and works in and while he's working he is helping do their this might help. There we go. Hey. Uh and he is working keep to help keep others do their work and teaching others to assist on their other project. Keeping busy non-stop. That's Ricardo. I'm going to keep it short since we've got a bunch to go. Ricardo, for you don't if you've ever been out to Pay Corn Nature Park, he built the Rainbow Bridge. if you're not familiar, it's the bridge that uh the mayor has actually um what's the wordated?

16:54 – 18:190

Dedicated last year and it's for people who've lost their fur babies and he actually built this and we also did ADA ramp out the back side of the trail head. Uh and most importantly, he just completed the project for reestablishing or or reconditioning the Canary building, which is the historic building within the city that came over from Virginia Avenue over to Peg Horn. And he saved the city tens of thousands of dollars by doing the work in house. So, I hope you all would uh welcome join me in welcoming Ricardo and congratulate Ricardo on employee of the month. Well, quick. Okay. I thank Jesus Christ, my savior, for this opportunity. Is an honor to me to be a city of St. Cloud employee. I thank our mayor, Chris Robertson, and his great team for all they are doing for our city. I thank our park and rec director Stephanie Hulcom, our deputy director Michael Tenado, uh my supervisor Ed Swa for the great leadership on our division. I thank all all my co-workers for the hard work every day in the city and I cannot leave this room without thank my beautiful wife Ruth for all her support always.

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God bless God bless all. God bless you. God bless this city and God bless America. Amen.

18:40 – 19:030

Eduardo or Ricardo. Ricardo, is it yours? glasses. All right. And next up, I'm going to go ahead and read off the proclamations this council just uh voted for.

19:09 – 21:090

All right. First up, we have National EMS Week. Whereas emergency medical services a is a vital public service. And whereas this year's theme for National EMS Week, get our firefighters up here. EMS marks the 52nd anniversary of EMS Week. This theme highlights the collaborative approach, focusing on patient care and positive outcomes. From the moment a 911 call for help is received, communication operators answer the call and provide pre-arrival medical instructions while dispatching fire, rescue, and police to the scene. The beginning of the outcome has started. On arrival of the emergency scene, crews initiate care and provide high high quality basic and advanced medical care that continues during transport to the hospital where our health care partners build on what was started with one phone call. The result, professionals from multiple organizations and entities all working collaborative collaboratively to improve patient outcomes. Whereas a St. Cloud Fire Rescue Department provides emergency medical services and life-saving care to those in need 24 hours a day, every day of the year. And whereas access to quality emergency care dramatically improves the survival and recovery rate of those who experience sudden illness or injury. And whereas the emergency medical services system consists of first responders, emergency medical technicians, paramedics, emergency medical dispatchers, firefighters, police officers, premedical uh prehosp nurses, emergency nurses, emergency physicians, trained members of the public, and other outofhos medical care providers. And whereas it is appropriate to recognize the value and the accomplishments of the emergency medical service providers by designated emergency medical staff ser emergency medical services week. Now

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therefore I Christian B. Robertson mayor of the city of St. Cloud, Florida along with the city council do hereby proclaim the week of May 17th 20 May 17 to 23rd 2026 as national EMS week in the city of St. Cloud. We celebrate the MS providers, these folks who risk their lives and health to protect the well-being of others.

21:48 – 23:380

Hi, my name is Jason Miller, fire chief here at St. Cloud. I cannot be proud of our men and women of the fire department. Every year we respond to about 9,000 calls free in the city. 75% of those are for EMS. It's the lion share of the fire service these days. Every day our our people train their to do the best they can at any given moment. We've had a number of serious calls. Most recently, people see them on Facebook every day. Please keep our firefighters and paramedics, EMTs in your thoughts and prayers and remember that they are doing things that a lot of times nobody else would want to see. With that, um, I'd like to congratulate men and women behind me because they're representing our department tonight, but they represent the community every day. We thank you for that. Good to see you. And I see we have some other guests here in the room with the Coast Guard Auxiliary Unit. Please come on up here. I got to spend the morning with Jim today.

23:34 – 25:310

Hi. How are you, sir? Let's see. All right. For over 100 million Americans, boating continues to be a popular recreational activity. From coast to coast and everywhere in between, people are taking to the water enjoying time together boating, sailing, paddling, and fishing. During National Safe Boating Week, the US Coast Guard and the National Safe Boating Council, along with federal, state, and local safe boating partners, encourage all boers to explore and enjoy America's beautiful waters responsibly. Safe boating begins with preparation. The Coast Guard estimates that human error accounts for most boating accidents and that life jackets could prevent nearly 75% of boating fatalities through boating basic boating safety procedures, carrying life-saving emergency distress and communications equipment, wearing life jackets, attending boat boat safe boating courses, participating in free boat safety checks, and staying sober while navigating. We can help to ensure boers on America's coastal, inland, and offshore waters stay safe throughout the season. Whereas on average, 650 people die each year in boating related accidents in the US. 75% of these are fatalities caused by drowning. And whereas the vast majority of these accidents are caused by human error or poor judgment and not by the boat equipment or environmental factors. And whereas a number of boers who lose their lives by drowning each year would be alive today had they worn their life jackets. Whereas the US Coast Guard Auxiliary Flotillaa 0701710 Oyola protects and serves the citizens of of St. Cloud and preventing boating accident by conducting complimentary

25:29 – 26:110

vessel safety exams at both the St. Cloud Marina and Chisum Park boat ramps. in addition to boating safety classes and distribution of boating safety and federal boating regulation information to our voters. Now, therefore, I, Christian B. Robertson, mayor of the city of St. Cloud, Florida, along with the city of council, do support the goals of the safe voting campaign and proclaim May 16th, 20 May 16th to to the 22nd, 2026 as National Boating Week and the start of the yearround effort to promote safe boating. I urge all of those who vote to practice safe boating habits and wear a life jacket at all times while boating.

26:19 – 28:180

Mr. Mayor, I on behalf of the US Coast Guard and US Coast Guard Auxiliary, we appreciate this proclamation. And I know most of most of you guys don't see us out there, but On weekends, we're out at Chisum Park or the marina down here trying to do vessel exam. Most people refuse it, but quite a few we we do. Um I'm also responsible for life vest wearing observation and you would not believe it. We do it covertly, not in uniform. almost 90% do do not wear life vest. So um and uh this is our flotilla commander and the division commander and he's one of our other quick and we get out of here. One of the things that I have found out with the public is the reason why they don't want us to do vessel exams is because they believe that we can give fines or stop them from voting. We do not have that authority. We don't want that authority. What we're there for is to make sure that you have the safety instruments that you need to be out on the water. We're there to educate you, help you be safe, find things that you might need to be safe. Um, one of the things is I tell people all the time, you need a mirror on your boat so you can reflect the light to somebody if you're in danger. A lot of people say, "I don't have a mirror." You have an old CD, DVD, Blu-ray player. There's your mirror. It's not that hard. You don't actually have to go out and buy a lot of stuff. If you see one of us somewhere and you have a question, ask us. If we don't know the the answer right then and there, we will find out the answer and

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get back with you with that answer. So slippy. It's my phone.

28:26 – 29:160

I forgot to turn it on, but it's a cool ring. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for everything y'all do. Look, these guys are all volunteer I've known for many years. I've celebrated with them at the Coast Guard celebration, the birthday celebration every year at the the Coast Guard uh station. So, thank them very much for going out there and doing those safety checks.

29:18 – 31:160

All right. Last but not least, we have National Police Week. Whereas the city of St. Cloud proudly recognizes the dedicated men and women of law enforcement who serve our community with courage, professionalism, integrity, and honor. Whereas law enforcement officers work tirelessly to protect life and libert life and property, preserve peace and order, uphold the law, and ensure the safety and well-being of all residents and visitors. Can we have the officers come on up here and join us with this one? I would love everybody to come on up here. I'm sure y'all know who I'm talking about, right? Whereas these public servants routinely place themselves in harm's way and make personal sacrifices in service to others and protection of the rights and freedoms we cherish. And whereas the city recognizes that effective law enforcement is strengthened through compassion, accountability, community partnerships, and mutual tr trust between officers and the citizens that they serve. Whereas law enforcement personnel also play an important role in mentoring youth, assisting those in crisis, supporting victims, promoting public safety, and working collaborative collaboratively with schools, businesses, and neighborhood organizations to build a stronger community. And whereas the city of St. Cloud further recognizes the sacrifices made by the families of law enforcement officers and honors those officers who have lost their lives or suffered injuries in the line of duty. And whereas National Police Week provides an opportunity for citizens to express appreciation for the dedicated service

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of local, county, state, and federal law enforcement personnel, including sworn officers, dispatchers, correctional officers, school resource officers, and civilian support staff. Now, therefore, I, Christian B. Robertson, mayor of the city of St. Cloud, Florida, along with the city council to hereby proclaim May 10th through May 16th, 2026 as National Police Week. Hey, you have to smile.

32:10 – 34:090

So, good evening everybody. My name is Doug Gerky. I'm the chief of police uh for this amazing city. Um, and we're blessed, absolutely blessed to serve each one of you. Uh, like to regail you with a uh an amazing uh incident that occurred um just uh on May 2nd. I'm sure everyone saw it. It got national attention um for a boat rescue. Um so it's very uh timely that we speak about boer safety. Um so on May 2nd, 2026 at approximately 12:48 p.m. the St. St. Cloud Police Department received an urgent distress call reporting that a vessel with six passengers was taking on water on East Lake Tohjo. Recognizing the immediate danger to life, responding units rapidly mobilized the St. Cloud at the boat basin to initiate a marine rescue. At approximately 10:5 p.m., Marine 1 operated by Officer Michael McDonald arrived at the boat basin accompanied by his son, Officer Shane McDonald, who was on patrol that day. While preparing for an immediate deployment, Officer McDonald encountered nearby citizen, Mr. Sarapin Herdia. Got it. Got it. Affectionately known as Surf, who was already on the water in his personal vessel. Without hesitation, Surf volunteered his assistance and joined the rescue effort, demonstrating extraordinary courage and selflessness. Using navigational guidance provided by the OciOla County Sheriff's Office helicopter, which was now hovering over the sinking vessel, both rescue vessels arrived on the scene at approximately 1:11 p.m. Responders located a small watercraft nearly submerged to the waterline. Four occupants were clinging desperately to the sinking vessel while two additional victims were already in the water. Compounding the severity of the situation, only two of the six individuals at the time had life jackets on. and it was conveyed that several occupants potentially could not swim. Surf immediately rescued one of the victims from the water and brought them

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safely on board his vessel. Simultaneously, Officer Michael and Shane McDonald, father and son, maneuvered Marine One along the sinking craft and acted swiftly and decisively to remove three additional passengers from the vessel while also rescuing another individual from the water. Moments later, a responding OciOla County Sheriff's Office airboat arrived on scene and safely recovered the final victim. Through decisive action, exceptional teamwork, and an unwavering commitment to pres uh preserving human life, all six individuals were rescued from an extremely dangerous and potentially fatal situation. The coordinated effort of the St. Cloud Police Department Marine Patrol Unit, the assistance of Mr. Herodia and the response of the Oyola County Sheriff's Office personnel exemplifies the highest standards of professionalism, courage, and dedication to public safety. Today, the city of St. Cloud proudly recognizes Officer Michael McDonald and Officer Shane McDonald along with SURF uh for the heroic actions, selfless service, and extraordinary efforts on May 6, 2026. Their courage and quick response undoubtedly saved lives and reflect great credit on them and the entire community. So, if I can have those three come up here, we're going to show a video. Got an eagle.

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Let's get him. I got you. I got you. Get you guys on board.

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The other side. Grab her by the Get her on. Get her on. Get her on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Under her shoulders. Under her shoulders. She's in. She's inable. Stayable. Safe. Hold on. I eat

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green all six safely ashore. Thankola County Fire Department star our amazing dispatchers. Thank you very much. Oh, that's why we are here. Thank you. I sent him. I was like, he start go, please. I still had to un rope to start up, wait for my backup. He was out there. I thought you going to jump over here. I I almost did, but I was waiting for my backup who happened to be my son today. Thank you all. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. What a brother.

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What a great day though, right? What a great day. Everybody safe. you were on the boat, correct?

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Okay. So, I just wanted to share a few things because this obviously went viral. Um, this was all across uh the country. Uh, they were on multiple shows. Um, so they were on Good Morning America. Um, it was also on Good Day Orlando. I saw the videos as far as California and the state of Washington. So, um, as humble as every one of these individuals are, um, they kept asking me, "When is this going to be over?" Well, it's not over till it's over. But, um, the, uh, as you can see, this again, this went viral. So, um, with that being said, uh, please help me just give another round of applause. And for everyone that did this, Okay.

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I thank you very much. I very I feel really grateful with you with the other things with the everything. You are my heroes. Sorry. Yes, please. Hello,

39:18 – 41:090

Michael McDonald. Um, I don't have an iPhone in front of me or a speech, but um, what a great day that was. It was our first day on Marine Patrol. Um, and something that that comes behind all this again, please forgive me for not having a planned speech. Praise God for council that has approved the community engagement team. And the reason I say that is the reason surf was so welcoming to me is because I met him while on duty in my downtown detail, which has been granted to the city for community engagement. Had I never met Surf, I wouldn't have felt comfortable. And let me tell you the little funny story behind that. He knew something was wrong because someone my age, we'll leave it at that. Doesn't sprint very often. I'm either if he if I'm sprinting, it's to the bathroom. Some of you know what I'm saying. Or there's something wrong. And he picked up on obviously I wasn't heading to the bathroom. He saw me sprinting and he's like, "Mack, are you okay?" And I said, "No, I'm not okay." And he had just dropped off Ivy and Verge. And he said, "What do you need?" I said, "You see that helicopter? I need you to go there. There's six people in the water and that's what surfed. He didn't question anything. He whipped around. He's a hero. He whipped around and got there and we just followed him and and he was he was the one throwing the rope in there. And people don't realize I did a little bit of homework. Okay, that lake is gator heaven. There are 6,000 alligators in that lake. A thousand of which are over 10 feet. I did my homework. Thousand of which are over 10 feet long. Okay. It is marshy for the exits. It's warm and it's shallow. Lots of fish, lots of birds. Yummy, yummy, yummy. And they were two miles out. And I was told five of them could not swim. Okay. So, I don't know that. Is that correct?

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All right then. So, we can tell you that. Not to mention severe weather alert. So, no other Boers were on the water. The waves were at 3 to four foot chop. It was nasty. So when you're looking at five people that can't swim two miles, we we are looking at a recovery rather than a rescue. By the grace of God, everything that day went perfect. Thank you to Star. Thank you for the fire department for being ready. Thank you to Thank you, sir, for just being there at the right time. Ivy, thank you for letting them use your boat. Okay. All right. Thank the fire department again, Star Deputy Cotch who was there, chief for letting our marine patrol unit be on duty and all of the citizens who voted to have a community uh community outreach team, a community engagement team. So, there was a lot to and and my son, who who gets that day, it was great. His sergeant was like, "Mack, you you need Okay, I'm going to tell you what he really said. Okay. So, as you can tell, we're father and son, so we're in on the road sometime. It's not McDonald. It's Papa Mac or Big Mac and Baby Mac. And and they don't hesitate to say that on the radio. And so his sergeant was like, he's like, he's like, he's like, "Papa Mac, you need Baby Mac." I said, "104." So, he were lights and sirens on the way. So, thank God for Sergeant Esh for kicking him out there. Also, I you don't see the approach. If you if you saw the helicopter approach, that boat approach takes hundreds and hundreds of hours to not run over people in the water. I've never trained with storm water because we're not allowed to train in nasty weather. That would make sense. So, to to do that, that takes hundreds of hours of training. So, thank God for our trainers, uh, Sergeant Stockdale and Sergeant Lawson. And thank God I'm going to give you my impression of Sergeant Lawson in our training. Are you ready? What was that? That's Sergeant Lawson.

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And he's got his binoculars and we're out there and he's sitting on the p sitting on the pier. So, we know that was not how you do it. So, a lot of training went into that rescue. We are blessed to have such a great training team and such a great administration that backs us and believes in us. And as I said, with all of those things came a rescue rather than a recovery. So, thank you citizens for believing in us and for always making us feel welcome in this city because that doesn't happen in every city and it happens with all of you. So, thank you for everything. I'm so proud of you. Yes. This is your home. And now the most exciting moment you've been waiting for. Presentation by Pervis Grain Company Independent Auditors. I'm sure this is the part that everybody

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really showed up for. So, first let me take a moment to thank them for all of their heroics, all of our public servants, uh, who were recognized today for keeping us safe in this heroic effort, but daily as well. So, uh, hard to follow them. Uh, pleased to say the audit report will be boring, which is really the type of audit report you want to hear about. So, you don't want the excitement on that. Uh, this is the final step in concluding the audit process for September 30th of 25. So, mayor, council members, thank you for this opportunity to present this evening. Uh, leadership of your audit team here today. My name is Tim Westgate, audit partner on the engagement. Also, Matt Gau is with us. Also a partner as well with Bergus Gray. This audit meets the requirements under Florida statutes, rules of the Florida Auditor General. Uh, government accounting and auditing standards, federal and state granting agencies require this audit, as well as bond covenants and the municipal securities market. Uh so this meets those audit requirements. Beyond that, the city of I like to highlight that the city of St. Cloud chooses to go above and beyond just those standard requirements that are out there and chooses chooses to participate in the GFOA uh certificate of achievement and excellence and financial reporting. That is an optional program in the spirit of transparency. Additional disclosure in the front of the packet that you received is last year's award. We anticipate this packet will receive the award as well. Uh because there's nothing exciting in the report, I'm just going to run through quick what the results of the audit are and the auditor's reports that are included in there. First section in there is on the auditor's opinion. That is the primary part that you uh will get the most attention from those regulatory bodies. It has reminders in there that management is responsible for the financial statements. Management is responsible for internal control and it gives the responsibilities of our our

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responsibilities in performing the audit. Ultimately what you want to hear we issued a clean opinion an unmodified opinion that is the highest level of assurance you can have on these external financial statements. As part of our audit, we conducted the audit in accordance with the standards issued by the uh federal OM office of management and budget for the government auditing standards has us look at internal control for the purpose of financial reporting. It would report to you material weaknesses, significant deficiencies, non-compliance that would be material to the financial statements. Pleased to say all of those reports are clean as well. So that is an effort that uh comes across the entire city starting with the mayor commission and uh council members as well leading that guidance. Other reports that are in the package in the compliance section. There's a report in there 218415 that is related to investment of public funds. There's also a management letter that is issued under rules of the Florida Auditor General that would talk about if such things existed, deteriorating financial condition, financial emergencies, other items like that. Pleased as well. Those are clean reports. Nothing rose to the level to be reported in those. As part of the city's participation in various federal grant programs, the city receives federal grants and of course that comes with additional strings attached known as those compliance requirements. And as part of the audit, there is an audit segment that's referred to often as the single audit that addresses those grant compliance. The program that was selected on the riskbased approach this year is the public safety partnership and community policing grants. Uh and in the audit of those compliance requirements, pleased to say clean opinion as well. Also an unmodified opinion. So continue continue to say good reports in that regard.

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This slide here talks about other audit matters in your uh honorable realm as mayor and council members. There's other discussions that go on between the auditor and uh your role as those charged with governance and some of those are just talking about changes in the financial statements. Uh during this year uh the new standard Gazsby 101 was adopted related to compensated absences and that is just a new approach nationwide. Everybody was required to adapt it. Just extra homework, extra effort that was put in by your finance team. Pleased to say that was appropriately adopted uh and put in place in that regard. Bottom bullet point on there I do like to highlight as well. If there were significant difficulties encountered in performing our audit, it would be highlighted at this point in our discussion. Pleased to say we get great cooperation from the city. So, we'd like to take a moment to thank uh Veronica, all the city departments as well with the it's not just finance. Uh we do work across many departments of the city. I would though like to particularly thank Jeff and the finance team. They have to put up with us the most during the audit process. Uh when we say explain this, show us that, why did that happen, prove it, uh those questions over and over, we do get great cooperation through the process. So, we're thankful for that. Last slide on here is still other audit matters. Uh as the realm of our audit, we do talk about a lot of other things that don't rise to the level of being findings, written finding types things. So we do spend the time looking forward into next year. There's a new Gazsby statement coming out, Gazsby 103, that will have some changes in the financial reporting model, changes to your management discussion and analysis in this package. The budget reporting is going to change some. So we have those type of discussions. Pleased that your team is already looking forward is already starting that process to avoid

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surprises. And then we did have some discussions on some opportunities for streamlining and making improvement to the grant reporting process and the tracking the monitoring of grants and just better options to uh continue with timely reporting with that. So that's an example of some of the other discussions that happen along the way. So with that, in the spirit of time, I will conclude with that. Again, thank you for the opportunity and invite any questions that you may have related to the audit. Deputy Mayor Gilbert.

51:21 – 52:100

Yes. Uh thank you very much and and and you all do a great job. Um and thanks to Coupe, there's three you you put on in that slideshow there's three additional requirements next year. Will that make it easier or harder? more um more complex to make those changes. Uh it throws me off a little bit. One of the titles on them is uh financial reporting model improvements. Uh questionable what improvements mean has a lot of definition. It will put more effort on your team to implement those. Uh ultimately should result in clear disclosure. Um after the first year of implementation, it it should be pretty consistent after that. So first year will be hard, right? After that, it should be pretty similar to what you're doing now.

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So, so it's a rough road to start. Less is more to me and every time they add on something else, it it's more work and they are it's more work for for our staff. So, so again, I appreciate our staff very much. They've been great and I appreciate you and I was just wondering the clarification of those three new rules by wherever state, federal, whoever decides that uh that we need to do that. So, thank you very much for your hard work. You know, along that perspective, exactly what you're saying. The Gazsby is who puts out those standards. In the first 50 or so years of their existence, they put out about 35 standards. In the last uh 15 years or so, they put out, you know, 50 or so.

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I've seen me chair when you come here. So, yeah. So, I yield back to you, mayor. Thank you for letting me talk to you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Any other council comments on that? All right. Okay, we're going to request for city council's acceptance on this. Do I take public comment on this, Dan? Yes, you can once you take a motion to accept uh All right. Can I get a motion to accept the uh the financial report from Motion to accept? That would be council action item number one. Council action item number one. Motion to accept. Council action item number one. All right. Anybody in the audience like to speak on this item? All right. And can I get a second? Second.

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Second. Uh so we have a mo I'm sorry. We have a motion from Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Second from Council Member Urban. Uh, Madame Clerk, please call the role. Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. I. Council member Urban. Hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Mayor Robertson. I. Motion carries 40. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Have a great evening.

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All right. Let me flip through some of these here. Mayor, I think you wanted to introduce I'm still Yep. Okay. Thank you.

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All right. Before we move on to the agenda. So, over the weekend, I was out there at our Soldier City Sat Soldier City Market, which now occurs on Saturdays from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. on the second and fourth Saturdays of the month. Um, while I was out there, uh, we had, um, Austin Cobb, he's an Eagle Scout, right? and his dad were out there and his brother. And so they were out there and they were they were cleaning up the you know those old cannons out front. They were washing those. They're going to be repainting those. So I'd like to go ahead and and ask that Austin's father James come up to the podium. Yeah. Here's Austin. Uh hello. Thank you uh for inviting me to come and speak. Um, I appreciate the opportunity. So, uh, my name is Austin Cobb. Uh, I'm a currently a life scout of Troop 192. So, I'm here to kind of explain what my Eagle Scout project is. So, first of all, my Eagle Scout project is located at the Veterans uh, park on 1201 13th Street. For my Eagle Scout project, I am restoring the two M157mm anti-tank guns that are located at the park. Um, this restoration will include cleaning, prepping, and repainting the guns, as well as replacing the tires and maybe some other miscellaneous items. I've just recently completed the workday where we clean the surface of the guns and remove the wheels. I have my next workday coming up soon where we where we will be priming the surface um for painting. I have some uh pictures here if you all would like to look at them.

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Absolutely. Yeah, sure. We love them on that on Stacy's side, right? Stacy. They used to be there.

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So, these uh photos display the um condition um of the before and after conditions

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um of the uh anti-tank guns located at the park. So, this is a front shot of one of the guns. As you can see, it is covered in lykan and flaking paint. Um, and so that's kind of uh what we got rid of on the first workday. That's another angle from the back. As you can see, more liken, more flaking paint. That is an image of the tires that are on the guns. As you can see, the tires uh and the rims themselves are um not in very good condition. So, that is going to be a major part of what I am uh replacing at the at the park. And this is a um an image of taken after the end of the first workday. As you can see the lyken and the paint uh uh paint flakes have been uh taken off and we have removed the tires which I have taken for assessment to go tires and that is another image uh from the front uh just showing the work that has come been completed. So, if those are all the images, um I'd like to give thanks to some of the sponsors that um enabled this project, such as Sheron Williams, United Rentals, GNO Truck Tire Sales, Dr. Phillips Charities, the VFW Post 3772, and American Legion Post 80, as well as the city of St. Cloud for allowing me to have this as my Eagle Scout project and the parks and recreation department for

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their uh cooperation and help uh for this project. Very cool. Austin, let's give him a round of applause. Yeah, everything you're doing, you know, I told you I was a Cub Scout and I was a Weeblo and I was a Boy Scout. I never made it to Eagle. Um so I commend you on that. And everything you're doing is what our community is all about. everybody getting together, getting the the the businesses to to come up and and assist you in this project, and you're doing it for the betterment of the entire community right there in Veterans Park, which is such a special place, and we're really highlighting that park here as a council. So, we do appreciate you, and uh that's so cool, man. Thank you very much. Council, you have anything to say to to our friend Austin here?

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If I may, mayor, uh just a second, uh your comments. We have a place for grace. We have eagles come in and do projects there in restoration and beautifification. But as a young man, you are exemplary to what young men should be. You you are doing the right stuff in this world we have today. To have folks like you doing it, I'm honored. I have five kids and eight grandchildren and I'm honored to be your friend and I'm honored that you're doing what you do for the city of St. Cloud. You have so much success ahead of you and God bless you. Awesome. Council member Paul, want to say thank you for your um service to the community and um help beautify the veterans park. Thank you. Yeah, Council Member Urban,

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it's amazing. Thank you so much. And it's people like you that make our city such a special place to be in. So, thank you so much. Yes, sir. Yep. Yeah. And thank you to your dad as well, James. So, yeah. And your brother was out there, too, as well, wasn't he? So cool. All right. Thank you all. Thank you so much. Have a good night.

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All right. Next up, we have the consent agenda. The next portion of tonight's meeting is the consent agenda, which contains items that have been determined to be routine and non-controversial. If anyone in the audience wishes to address particular item on the consent agenda, now is the opportunity for you to do so. Additionally, if staff or members of the city council wish to speak on a consent item, they have the same opportunity. And what's the pleasure of the council? Any items that we want to discuss or can I get a motion?

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Oh, I would just like to state on on on resolution number one, mayor, that I had a quas exparte meeting with with these individuals and I want to make that on public record, sir. And with that, I yield back. Yep. I agree. I as well. And um and for process perspective, you'll need to make that announcement when the quasi judicial items come up which are later on in the agenda. Okay. Not on this one right here. Not on this one.

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This was not right. Okay. All right. And resolution number one. Let me see. number three. Oh gosh. Sorry. All right. And we have some public comment. First up, we have uh for consent item number three, Charmaine Bast. Just a little history before um I uh let you know what I have to say here. I'm with the Woman's Club of St. Cloud. The Woman's Club was formed in 1910 organizing in a tent. That's when the city was so new, many citizens lived in tents because houses had been built. For over a hundred years, the Woman's Club has had the objective to develop educational, civic, and social interest, and that continues today. My name is Charmaine Bowast, a woman's club member since 2005, a past president. I am here tonight to urge you not to approve proposed fees under 2026-053R. Our history has included the first library that started in a railroad depot which is now the VFW until there was money raised by the woman's club. We were able to build the

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first library here in the city. We raised the money to build the women's club. Sidewalks veterans park were just a few of the projects of the women's club. And the women's club uh has been active in supporting the museum since 2001. It is our members who are the volunteers who keep that museum open three days a week. I don't know what it takes to make a difference, but from what I've seen here tonight, certainly um the environment that we live in in St. Claude, I would like to think um this is the way it is. There's been much said here tonight about the officers we have, the police we have, Coast Guard, and so forth. For the women's club, for us to be charged fees for use of a building by a nonprofit creates hardship for us to have fundraising. There is no precedent for this to have happened in our history. We are a 5013C, a notfor-profit organization. Our fundraising allows us to continue giving two college scholarships annually to graduating seniors from two local high schools. Donations to St. Cloud Elementary Schools for their media centers and donations to other charitable groups in St. Cloud. Once more, I am asking the council to withdraw consideration of these fees. Thank you and thank you for your time

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and attention. Yes, ma'am. Uh Charmaine, can you please come back up here for a second? So, this is the Hometown Heroes program. How does that apply to I I'm just curious. Well, what have we have been told is that parks and recreation has been looking at the city buildings and fees would be charged where they hadn't been charged before. Okay. But I'm seeing this this has to do with hometown heroes program. What does that have? Oh, I was looking at the one that is listed as uh it's amending and updating the parks and recreation fee schedule. Exactly.

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Adds adds information about the cost associated with the hometown heroes program. So, how's that with the women's club? Like where does that impact the women? Well, I don't see the hometown heroes and what I'm looking for. Well, I would say yes, it does apply to us or hometown hero. That has no No, no, no, ma'am. That's an actual program. Okay, that's How does that apply to the women's club? I'm not sure that it does because I did not see that here. Okay. All I see is that the fees are there from parks and recreation and that was our objective from being here this evening. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. I don't I don't think that applies to the um

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Well, then I guess I have just uh said what needed to be said for when it does come up. Okay. Well, thank you, ma'am. Um is that

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I was going to clarify that that's not on the agenda at this time. I think some of the confusion may be that recently staff um was utilizing the existing contract with the women's club. There was some activity outside the terms of the agreement and and we did um reflect a charge to use the facility outside the terms of their existing agreement. So that that may be what it is, but we're also under direction by the city council to renegotiate all of our agreements with our users that haven't been updated in some time. And we're also in the process of doing that also with the women's club. So there are there are several items right now going on with the women's club, right? But that has nothing to do with tonight. Um no, except for the fact

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this item right here is Hometown Heroes program. That specifically it's amending our fee schedule to add the Hometown Hero language. Yeah. And the rental rates are on our fee schedule and none of that impacts the women's club. It's not a new change to the women's club. That's what that's what I'll make sure. So if in the future if there's a change obviously that's where where uh obviously your your comments would apply to any changes when it comes to the women's club. Um deputy mayor. Yeah. Just I'm with the TDC board too and and and there's some marketing value put in there but I I'm clarify that this was our hundth year celebration was it not? We're over 100 years right founded in 1910.

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Okay. Uh I I do know that come to tourism development council that there was going to be a celebratory 100year anniversary in 2026 but but it's over a hundred years. So I just wanted to be mark for the the historians that this is a great club that's been around a lot a lot longer than it has been. And thank then thank you for all you do. God bless you. Thank you. And I'm unaware of the exact changes that you're referring to. So we have not seen that on agenda yet. So when we talk about it, we see it. We'll definitely uh we'll speak to you about it, but I haven't received any phone calls or you know from you or or I don't phone calls from us. No, ma'am.

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Okay. Well, okay. Well, we're not going to sit here and argue about that with you sitting here at the in a seat down there. Exactly. Okay. Well, um so, uh so if you're not here to talk about that, there's somebody else wants to talk about consent item number three. Let me give you a second. Sharon Bliss, would you like to speak about consent item number three about the hometown heroes? Just tell them what it is. Well, you can talk about public comment if they're talking about the women's club. That's during public comment. You can talk about it during that time. This is about the actual agenda item with Hometown Heroes program. Okay.

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Okay. So, if you want to talk about the the women's club, you can do it during public comment which is coming up. that comes up. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, because we do have to you can only speak about the items on the agenda until it's public comment. Then you can talk about the stars in the sky and the birds and the bees and anything else you want to talk about. So, it's anything under the sun. But right now, we have to stick to the actual agenda items. Um, anyone else want to speak on any of the items on the consent agenda? Okay. Can I get a motion? Motion from Council Member Urban. Second. Second. Council member Paul. Madam clerk, please call the role. Council member Paul, I. Council member Urban, hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert, hi. Council member Fletcher. Mayor Robertson.

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Hi. Motion carries 40.

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Yeah. And that is, you know, that is protocol that when we have agenda items, you have to stick to the actual agenda item. And as it pertains during public comment, you can talk about anything in the world. We can talk about roads, water, um, and we all have to do that up here as well. We need to kind of keep that in check. Um, next up we do have the citizens form. Any person who desires to comment on any item not on this agenda is provided this opportunity to address the city council. Each person is requested to complete a sign-in form to be presented to the presiding officer prior to or as soon as practical thereafter the person addresses the council. Uh, Sharon, would you like to go ahead and speak first? Sharon Bliss. Yep. This is this is the citizens forum. Yeah. You can talk about everything you want to talk about. Yeah.

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Maybe you won't talk mean to talk about everything I want to talk about, but anyhow. Well, you got three minutes to talk about everything.

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Well, I won't take three minutes. Okay. Um I'm Sharon Bliss, current president of St. Cloud Women's Club Heritage Museum. And uh well, I understand the need to review documents and contracts from 20 beers and 24 years ago allowing only two meetings per month. the I don't think it anticipated the city's growth in the women's club fundraising needs so rapidly this growing environment and as the city evolves for 116 years the woman's club has raised funds to support civic projects educations and other 5013C organizations contributing nearly $100,000 to St. cloud communities in the past 15 years. Limiting us to two meetings a month makes it difficult to plan fundraising efforts. As a nonprofit, nearly all our funds we raise go back into the community, and paying $300 for additional meetings would be a hardship. It would also limit small informal gatherings that allow our members to get together and discuss ideas while enjoying coffee, tea, and a light refreshment. This requires no city resources but to help us stay connected. I'm sorry. Requires no city resources but helps us stay connected and generate ideas. We ask your support so we can continue to preserve St. Cloud's history and serving the community. I want to thank you for your time and your consideration. But as a little side note, I also want to thank um the city for recognizing Olive Horning two nights ago for all her time and effort in preserving the history of St. Cloud. She's a fabulous lady and a longtime member of our club.

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Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, it was amazing. Uh a few years back, I guess when you guys were going for a grant for digitizing the document, it was like five or six years ago, I wrote a letter of support for her doing. She's a wonderful lady. And you just gave me more information as to what I was looking for from Charmaine. Um, you said $300 extra. I didn't know that. So, don't give me dirty looks when I'm just trying to get the information. Yes, we were we were told. All right. I'm just trying to get I'm trying to understand what we're talking about.

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We were told if we were in the building for anything else, we would be charged $300 usage. And um we we just it's just we don't have the money because everything we bring in goes out with the exception of you know whatever we need for office materials or something. So we we what comes in goes out faster than it comes in. So yeah and and we we get a lot of information or we will get more information on that. Okay. In fact, it was probably 35 minutes ago. I saw a letter from you folks and I read the first five lines, but I unfortunately that everybody was waiting for me in here so I had to come in here. That letter that letter was from We'll get to that. That letter was from me, too. Oh, it wasn't I didn't even get to hear your name.

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Was it from also from me, but I appreciate your time and consideration and please keep us in mind because we really do love this city and want to do whatever we can to preserve its history. Absolutely. Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much. Oh, are we ready for Betty? Oh, that's not here. That's for That's for uh down the way. Next up, we have Mayor need to ask if anybody else here for citizens for Yeah, it's still citizens. Okay. No, I'm still calling names. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you go to the next thing. I apologize.

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Uh Milan Robinson. Did I spell say that right? Milan. Okay. Sorry. Milan.

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Hi. How are you guys? Um, good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Milan Robinson and I'm a SWAT youth advocate. Thank you for your time tonight and and for the work you've already done to promote healthier spaces in St. Cloud. As young people, we pay attention to what is normalized in our community. When tobacco use is visible in parks, especially in family centers spaces like St. Cloud Lakefront, it sends a message that tobacco use is normal and accepted. The matters because most tobacco users begin before the age of 18. Recently, SWAT students cleaned up Lakefront Park and collected hundreds of cigarette butts and vape products. Seeing the amount of litter where children play and families gather was discouraging, but it also motivated us to speak up. We appreciate the accordance that St. Cloud already has in place and we recognize the progress we are asking in you to strengthen it by including the lakefront park so that all families can enjoy a cleaner and healthier environment. CMI recently passed a tobaccof free park orders in May. Residents were happy to see their cities prioritize health and cleanings. St. Cloud has the chance to be a part of the same positive moment. We love our community and we want our parks to reflect the values of health, safety, and respect future generations. Thank you. Very nice. Desiree Austin. Sorry. Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Desiree Austin and I'm a member of SWAT students working

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against tobacco. First, I want to thank you for your time tonight and for your for the work that you have already done to support healthier and public spaces in St. Cloud. We recognize that the city has already made progress with tobacco fee free policies and we truly appro appreciate those efforts. Tonight, we are simply asking you to strengthen that progress by including St. Cloud Lakefront in the or audience. Recently, SWAT students participated in a cleanup at the lakefront park. During the cleanup, we collected hundreds of cigarette butts and vape related litters. That experience showed us firsthand how much tobacco waste is affecting one of St. Cloud's most loved community spaces. Families come to the Linkfront Park to walk, exercise, fish, play, and spend time together. It should reflect the healthy and welcoming environment our community values. We've already seen positive momentum nearby. CMI recently passed a tobaccof free parks ordinance and community members responded very positively to it. St. Cloud now has an opportunity to join that movement and continue leading by example. Thank you again for your leadership and considering this important step forward. Thank you.

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Yes, ma'am. Thank you. City attorney. Yes. So, mayor, just to clarify, so the ordinance that was adopted by the city on the authority of the state legislature back in 2004, um originally ex had an exception for the no smoking prohibition for the lakefront area. So, if you if that's something the council would like to consider and move forward with, we certainly can work on that. It' be a pretty easy change to the code. Okay. Uh, we've got one more. Uh, Corbin Sophia Jones wants to speak about working against tobacco as well.

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Guess they saved the best for last. That's right.

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Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Corbin Sophia Jones and I'm here representing SWAT in OciOla County. Thank you for taking the time to listen tonight and thank you for the progress St. Cloud has already made toward healthier public spaces. We're asking you to strengthen the current ordinance by including St. Cloud Lakefront as a tobaccof free park. Recently, SWAT students conducted a cleanup at the lakefront park and collected hundreds of cigarette buds and vape litter in just a short amount of time. The amount that the amount sorry the amount of waste is concerning because cigarette buds are not harmless trash. They contain toxic chemicals that can pollute soil and water and harm wildlife. In addition, secondhand smoke and ecigarette aerosol expose families and children to harmful substances in places meant for recre recreation and health. Tobaccof free parks help reduce litter, improve park cleanliness, protect public health, reduce youth exposure to tobacco use. This policy would benefit residents, visitors, and future generations. We also know these policies work. CMI recently adopted a similar ordinance and community support has been overwhelmingly positive. St. Cloud has already shown leadership in this area. We're simply asking you to take it to the next step and ensure that the lakefront park is fully protected as well. Thank you for your consideration.

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All right. Thank you, Corbin. Um yeah, actually I think that'd be a cool thing to um if we can get an ordinance put together. That's a direction of council. We certainly can bring it back. Yep. I agree. Mayor, I don't know where these young ladies go. Give them a hand that to some of our youth to do what they're doing today. God bless you. That's awesome. That is so cool. Yeah. All right. Okay. We'll work on it. Bring it back as soon as possible. Thank you.

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Next up, we have Is this um is that Bridget Jackson? Did I spell it right? Say it right. Okay. Good evening, Mayor, Councilwoman. Hey, good morning. Good evening, all the things. Um, all right. My name is Bridget Jackson and I am the owner of Key Life Fitness here in St. Cloud and I have a nonprofit called Key Life Cares. Key Life Cares is a local nonprofit focused on supporting wellness, women's health awareness, community connection, and providing people with access to health and wellness resources through events, education, and outreach initiatives. Um, as a local business owner, I had the privilege of hosting the IMA 5K on May 2nd at the St. Cloud Lakefront Park. Um, and I just want to say thank you to St. Cloud, the city of St. Cloud for supporting the event. This year was our largest year yet. It's our third year doing the event. Um, we had 415 runners and over 750 people in attendance at the event. Uh, 15 vendors and 15 sponsors including Orlando Health, City of St. Cloud, Toho Water, KUA, Hoka, and many more. So beyond the numbers, it was more so of an impact for the community. We saw families come together, get reconnect to resources, participate in vendors, be able to sponsor local businesses and vend with them. So it was just a privilege to have the event and we look forward to continuing to partner with the city to bring more community events uh like so. So

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yeah, I was hoping to be out there. I know council member Paul was out there. I don't know if the rest of them were, but uh it's camera. No, that's so cool. How many how many runners or or walkers, whatever the 415. 415. Very cool. All at St. Cloud Lake. Yes. Love it. Yeah. Okay. So, thank you. Yeah. Council member Paul.

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Yes. Um I just want to say I did attend and it was a beautiful event. This was my second time attending and um I was going to save it for the end, but I do want to add that um Miss Bridget did go through the whole process of providing every documentation to support this event. She even provided a sum event summary and also um provided the receipts of the payment that was sent to her. Um she did everything perfect. I know this was the first event to show how the process was going to work and we did have some challenges but we got it through and she provided everything. So I want to say thank you again for that. So thank you. Thank you to you. Who won the race?

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Um his name was Fredison. Fredison. Uh yeah he's like the top marathon runner for Disney. So really cool. So, so these guys, I guess people run, they'll just see these fat caves and they they sign up. We had a a couple of top runners from across Central Florida come and run the race and they he ran it in 17 minutes. So, very cool. Yeah. All right. Well, that's great. It brings other people to our community. It's it's good economic development. So, thank you. Thank you very much.

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Anyone else in the audience? Yes. Give her a Anyone else in the audience like to speak during the citizens forum? All right. With that, we will move on. We have public hearings. Would the clerk please read public hearing number one?

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Resolution number 2026-038R. A resolution of the city council of the city of St. Cloud, Florida amending resolution number 2025-098R R, which adopts a fiscal year 2025 20226 budget for the city of St. Cloud finding the city manager has certified their pri prior year fund balances and or current revenues available in the budget for additional projects and programs and various funds not included in the original budget requiring the budget increase to include set additional fundings in the various funds making supplemental appropriations within the funds. City attorney.

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Yeah. I just wanted as we walk into the public hearings I wanted to remind the the applicants that there are only four council members present this evening. So, in the event that an item gets a 22 vote, that's considered a denial. So, the applicant would be given an opportunity if they so wish to continue their items when there's a full council present. Okay? And they could ask to continue it even if they see it's not going before. Anytime. Sorry. All right. Resolution number one. Coup. No, you're not. I'm sorry. Which one are we? Yeah, you were right.

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Why don't you move to the glasses on here? I say that's a small podium for you, Coop. I know you're bringing a lot of numbers to the table. Sure. Hold on. Let me uh

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Okay, I found you.

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Good evening. Jeff Cooper, finance director. This is budget amendment number three of fiscal year 2025 2026. The city manager certified funds are available to appropriate for these projects. Uh total of 3,5,421 in revenue from interfund transfer for the following projects. uh PW2402 which is our downtown mixeduse development that in the amount of 1,35,421 and ST2605 that's the motor road extension for $1.7 million. a total of 354,000 in revenue from prior year fund balance and 354,000 in expenditures for machinery and equipment for police vehicles for six new police officers to be funded in FY2627. This is police impact fees. Um this has been common practice over the past uh couple of years that we try to order the vehicles ahead of time, you know, planning for delivery time so we don't have new officers with with no vehicles. A total of the 1.7 million in prior year fund balance to fund uh 1.7 million in inter fund transfer for the aformentioned project ST2605 m road extension. This is funded with mobility impact fees. The asked for mentioned 1,35,421 in prior year fund balance to fund the same amount in air fund transfer for the downtown mixeduse project. Um this is the required assignment of the fiscal year in 2024 2025 yearend CRA fund

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balance which has to be applied to a CRA project. Um that project now has about $5,50,000 in it. Um so we're well on our way to completing that project without the use of debt and a total of $236,168 in prior year fund balance in the same amount in in fund transfers. This is the final entry for Stevens Plantation which we're finally putting that to rest. And as you noticed during the audit presentation, it was not mentioned because it's not in there anymore for the first time in 20 years or however long it's been prior to my time. Um, so we will be transferring these funds back to its original source, which is fund 150, the St. Cloud OU interlocal. Those funds were originally transferred into the Stevens Plantation fund to pay the taxes due at the time. So those funds will be transferred back to that fund and we will utilize those funds as part of our FY2627 budget. And staff recommendation is approval of resolution 2026-38R and we're requesting city council approval of resolution 2026-38R.

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Questions?

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Thank you, Coupe. Um both uh can we go back a few few slides. I'll tell you when to stop. Uh right there, that's one. The downtown mixed juice project. Go back one more, please. Motor extension. Everything we're doing there is everything the citizens have asked. We want more roads. That's what that is. That provides better connectivity through our city, more east west connections. Go move one forward again. There you go. The downtown mixeduse, folks. If y'all saw on social media, you know, in from the last CRA meeting, we had a presentation from the developers of the mixeduse project adjacent to city hall. And you know, we're going to have a parking garage there. Uh city manager, how many units are going to be in that parking garage? How many parking spaces

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the city? What's that? The total garage, I think, is going to be about 500 spaces. 250 of which is going to be dedicated to the city and to the general public.

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Right. Right. And that's where I just want to use this moment since we're, you know, bringing this part up that to go ahead and clear the record on exactly what that project is. Um, you know, there's going to be 150 units in there. It's important to have the units living downtown to support the businesses in our community. If we want to continue to witness restaurants or some of our stores failing, then we do nothing. If you don't have people walk within a walking distance of these businesses, they will continue to fail. You know, it's it's important that we do this. And this is a $60 million project. Do do have we ever had a $60 million project in the city of St. Cloud ever?

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OC's new new building.

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Oh, a government. Right. Right. They don't pay taxes. Right. Okay. That's that's the whole point of this. We need commercial development. If we don't have commercial development, this city will fail. If we don't have commercial development, taxes will have to be raised in order to operate a city. You guys are the the taxpayers, the citizens, you're the stakeholders. You know, unfortunately, you know, if if the if you can either have the commercial pay for the operations of the city or the taxpayers, we want the commercial, too. We want jobs. That's why we have a traffic situation as well. Not just because we don't have the the enough roads, we don't have the jobs here. And so we're trying to accomplish that by creating commercial projects throughout our city. Uh, Council Member Urban, thank you for saying that, Mayor. I think there's been a lot of misconceptions out there about this project. And I think it's also important to point out that um that this is being funded by the CRA, which is a separate entity from the city. And the CRA's specific purpose is to redevelop properties to build the tax base for our city. And that's exactly what this project is doing. And just one more point as well, uh this uh parking garage, if if the city were to build its own parking garage, we would pay double, probably triple to to build our own. So that this is really um going to be a huge catalyst for our downtown and I think great for the residents of St. Cloud.

1:32:29 – 1:33:130

Yes. And and I I just like addressing all concerns on this. You know, there was an article that was written by Growth Spotter that talked about low income and very low income. Well, what it said, I believe it's 50% have to be uh some rent controlled rents. Correct. So that they have 50% can be market rate and then they have they have 12% um which will be at 30% of the medium income 20% at 60. Yeah. 18% at 80.

1:33:09 – 1:33:430

So so the 20% of these units that means 20% of those units the developer can't charge them more than 60% of what they make a month. Well, nobody should be paying more than 60% of what they make per month for rent. Somebody's got to feed those kids. Somebody's got to pay the car bill. So, you know, the car payment, the power bill, the water bill, go out to eat. Then the next one's 80%, right? So, it may be easier if I say the number of units.

1:33:38 – 1:34:120

Sure. So 18 units at um at the 30% average medium income, 30 units at 60%, 27 units at 80% and then 75 units at 120%. Right? And I believe this is not a we're not there lowincome people, high income people, middle medium income people. We're all the same. We're all people in our community

1:34:09 – 1:34:550

and th this is a a project that I believe allows for all types to live under one one build in one building here and enjoy what our downtown has to offer. We've got movie theaters, we've got restaurants, we've got retail, we've got our city hall and you know there's a lot they can walk to Veterans Park for the the markets or the Wednesday night markets. If if we want to continue these activities in the city of St. cloud. We have to help them. And our job is to promote the the people that live in our downtown to support those businesses. And uh I guess that's all I have to say. I I don't really go out on social media and talk about it much, but I will say what I have to say up here.

1:34:53 – 1:35:380

Go ahead, Chuck. I mean, Jeff, anything else? No, sir. Well said. All right. Thank you. Anyone in the audience like to to speak on uh this item council? Can I get a motion? Motion to approve. Motion approved. Council member Urban second. I think coun deputy mayor Gilbert second. Closed. Will the clerk please call the role? Council member Urban. Hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. Hi. Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries 40. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Sorry you had to stand up there the whole time. Will the clerk please read item number two?

1:35:37 – 1:36:050

Final public hearing for ordinance number 2026-06. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud, Florida to annex into the city of St. Cloud approximately plus minus 743.53 acres identified as WY plot. Project NAX25-000020 generally located north of Lake Topalega, east of Ocula Road, south of CMI Park Road, west of Lake Topela Road, in accordance with the voluntary annexation provisions of chapter 171.044 Florida statute.

1:36:110

Yes, sir. Yeah, I think you're going to have to go to the main podium because I don't think that Yeah, the sound's not working on that one. Will the clerk please read item number three?

1:36:20 – 1:37:060

Public hearing entrance middle for ordinance number 2026-07. An ordinance of the city council of the city of St. Cloud, Florida, adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment pursuant to section 163184 Florida statute assigning a future land use designation of approximately plus - 743.53 acres. Identify this way plat project CPA25-000011 generally located north of Lake Tobaliga east of South Ocula Road south of CMI Park Road and west of Lake Topala Road from MXD mixeduse county to MIX mixed use city providing for amending of the official future land use map of the comprehensive plan following the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication applicability effects serability copies on file and effective date

1:37:040

you just bought a car Jeff

1:37:06 – 1:39:040

good evening uh Jeffrey B, the community development director. Um, so what we have are two applications in front of you. One is the annexation and the other is the CPA. The developers agreement was approved tonight under consent. So that's not under consideration for you. So it is uh annexation 25-000020 and CPA 25-000011. the this um if you approve this, this will be transmitted up to the state for them to review. It'll come back to you all for the adoption hearing where you would hear the CPA and the zoning application uh at a later date. So, this is again this is a uh annexation and land use change. Here we go. So the background uh this meets uh Florida statutes 171.044. Uh it's contiguous and reasonable compact. It's adjacent to the city limits. It is located within a joint planning area boundary. It is approximately 743.53 acres. The density is anywhere between 5 to 25 dwelling units per acre. It is compatible with the surrounding area. It's smack dab in the middle of the joint planning area. The existing future land use is mixed use which is in the county. The proposed future land use is mixed use uh with the city designation. Uh the existing zoning which is not under consideration tonight, but it's important to reference. It is an MXD in the county and is a mixed use in the city when it comes back for adoption. Facilities, there's no adverse impacts on city facilities. The existing county approvals uh reference concept plan 21-00008 which was done in October 2021. The

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preliminary subdivision plan in PS22-00007 the PSP amendment in 23-0012 and the phase 1 site development plan in STP22-00222. So I'm going to skip over that. So this is the existing future land use and you can see by the blue it is um uh mixed use in the surrounding area as well. This is the existing zoning. It is mixed use as well. So staff recommendation is approval of orange number 20 26-06 and 2026-07. The resolution was for the uh developers agreement which is not under consideration. Planning commission approval recommendation is approval of orinance 2026-06 and 2026-07. So city council requested action is approval of ordinance 2026-06 and approval to transmit ordinance 20206-07 of Florida Department of Commerce for the inter agency review. So, uh, Mr. Adams is here from the applicant side.

1:40:21 – 1:41:050

Not this one, though. That's the next one. This is This is the next one. I'm sorry. Sorry. I'll go. So, Mr. Adams is here to answer any questions that you might have. I, as well can answer any staff questions. Thank you, Jeffrey. Appreciate you, sir. Would the applicant like to speak on this item? Good evening, Mayor. Council members, John Adams, RJWA, Inc. 8 Broadway semi Florida 34741 for the agent for the applicant some of the rest of our teams here as well be happy to answer any questions you all may have tonight uh and we're in agreement with staff's support and I do want to thank staff over many phone calls and emails and meetings over the past uh two months uh to get here tonight.

1:41:02 – 1:41:470

Very cool. Thank you, John. I have a question really quick. So um this is to annex it in. You already have that this property already has entitlements to develop in the county. Correct. Yes. How many units already in the county? Approved PS uh in the county for 2,818 units. Uh and then there's a phase 1A SDP which is the engineering plans of one phase of I think roughly nine phases that is already approved in the county as well. uh those uh phases 1B, 2 A, 2 B, 2 C, and three have actually already been submitted to the city for review of those engineering plans.

1:41:44 – 1:42:220

Okay. Thank you. Yeah. And I just want to put that out there that, you know, this isn't just raw land that doesn't it's just not it's it I mean we can look at it and see it's cow pasture, it's a ranch, but it's got the entitlements. It has the the rights to build it and they can build it in the county as it stands. Correct, Tam? Yes, sir. Okay. and and council if if we don't annex it in and Dan, correct me if I'm wrong. We don't get the impact fees and we don't get the tax base. That's correct. But we'll still have to kind of serve it. We'll have to under the JPA if you don't annex it in that the county gets to do all the approvals. They will still approve it. Okay.

1:42:21 – 1:43:050

All right. Thank you. Anyone in the audience like to speak on this item? I wanted to make that clear especially to uh you know we see it on social media, we see it in people at home and they don't understand and we get hit with oh you're approving thousands of units every time and it's like well no they have the approvals and if we do not take them in we lose a lot of money and we'll go right back to the the the prior conversation I had. If the taxpayers want their taxes to go up then we'll stop annexing properties and then the taxes will go up. I mean, we can't really have our cake and eat it too on this. So, any council comments? I just want to say thank you for putting it out there on record. So,

1:43:04 – 1:43:490

we're going to put it out there more and more. Council member, deputy mayor, is this the expartate uh mention? Yes, sir. Okay. I just want to make sure you shouldn't wait. Well, I just want to make sure I'm on record. That's a poor word and and I want to use as much as I can. So, so just so I know, I met with them. So, I I yield back to you. That's Yes, I did as well. I understand that the applicant met with most of the council members and basically went over the presentation that they just said. Is that correct? Yes, it's with staff and the applicant. Yeah, Council Member, I I was just going to say that as well. I also met with the applicant and discussed what we had on the presentation today. All right. Um, Council Member Paul, you too? Yes, sir. We were all there.

1:43:46 – 1:44:300

Yes, I did. Same presentation everybody else had. I believe so. All right. Any other council comments? Anyone in the audience like to speak on this item? Can I get a motion? So, you got two items you want? Uh, yes. Uh, can I get a motion on item number two? Motion to approve. Motion to approve from Council Member Paul. Second. Second from Council Member Urban. Will the clerk please call the RO? Deputy Mayor Gilbert. I. Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. I. Council member Urban. I. Mayor Robertson. I. Motion carries 40. Thank you. And will the clerk please read item number three? I think it's

1:44:28 – 1:45:090

I'm sorry. We read it. Can I get a motion on number three? Yep. Sorry. Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Council member Paul. Second. Second from Council Member Urban. Will the clerk please call the role? Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. I. Council member Urban. I. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries 4 Z. Thank you. Appreciate it. And also, I believe that's going to have a lagoon that's going to be open to the public. Um, that's going to be a really good interesting thing. I think they've got one up there in Lake Nona already. Do they have they built one? It wasn't in Lake Nona. Where was there one? Wesley Chapel. Wesley. Yeah,

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I know they've developed them in other areas. So, that's cool. All right. All right. Will the clerk please read item number four? Final public hearing for ordinance number 2026-10. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud, Florida to annex into the city city of St. Cloud approximately plus - 9.75 acres identified as Nusi Starland project ANX26-00001 generally located north of J Street east of Twisted Branch Lane south of Lilian Black Road and west of South Nusi Road in accordance with the voluntary annexation provisions of chapter 171.044 Florida Statute. And will the clerk please rate read item number five and item number six.

1:45:49 – 1:47:060

Final public hearing for ordinance number 2026-0-11. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. South Florida asia feature land use designation approximately plus - 9.75 acres identified as an accusian starline project CPA 26-00001 generally located north of J Street east of Twister branch lane south of Lily Lee Lily Lily and Black Road west of South Lusi Road from D LDR lowdensity residential county to COM commercial city providing for amending of the official future land use map of the comprehensive plan following the planning commission's recommendations proof for publication applicability effect servability copies on file and effective Final public hearing for ordinance number 2026-12 an ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud Florida providing a zoning amendment of the zoning map of the land development code of the city of St. Florida specifically changing the zoning designation of approximately plus - 9.79 acres identified as Nikusi Starline project ZMA 26-00001 from AC agricultural conservation to R2 rural development county to HB highway business city generally located north of JC J street east of twisted branch lane south of Lily and black road and west of south narusi road providing that for entering the designation of the official zoning map finding the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication servability effective All right, Jeff.

1:47:04 – 1:49:020

Good evening. Jeffrey B, community development director. Here tonight are three companion applications. We have annexation 26-00001, CPA26-00001, and ZMA 26-00001. This is a voluntary annexation comprehensive plan amendment and zoning map amendment. So the background that this um meets Florida statutes 171.044. Uh it is contiguous and reasonably compact. It's adjacent to the existed city limits. It is located within the uh joint planning area. Approximate acreage of the property is 9.79. It is compatible with the surrounding area. The existing future land use is low density residential which is uh in the county. The proposed future land use is commercial. Uh the existing zoning is AC which is agriculture and conservation and R2 which is a rural development single family zoning district. The proposed zoning is highway business. Uh the facilities there's no uh adverse impacts on city facilities. So this is the eastern section of the site is physically separated along Narusi road by the abandoned rail railroad historically part of the St. Cloud Sugar Belt Railway. The railroad track was abandoned 1942 and the tracks were removed. Site is being considered as a unified parcel for uh development. So in our last uh city council uh meeting there was uh some discussion on restricting the uses. So staff has prepared and it's in the packet a a restrictive covenant. And so what the restrictive covenant um prohibits is

1:48:58 – 1:50:560

well let me the conditional uses. So, um it is requiring that convenience stores and gasoline pumps uh require conditional use and conditional uses requires city council approval with a site plan. The prohibited uses uh which means that they could not do that regardless is uh automotive uh body work and painting, frame repair, minor mechanical repair. Uh again, major mechanical repair, quick wash, sales and rental, service station, tire repair and replacement, window tinting, and then many warehouse and source facilities uh along with towing and wrecking wrecker services. So this is a conceptual site plan that was provided to us. By no means is the applicant tied to this plan, but you know, this is you know what uh what he intends on doing it. Uh, with that, so I just want to add a caveat that it still has to meet the land development code regulations and all the regulatory agency requirements as far as permitting with the with South Florida Water Management District and and all the other agencies. So this is the existing future land use. You can see by the yellow, it's a low density residential uh classification. It is on the west side of Narusi and Starline. This is the zoning map which shows both AC and R2 zoning. So staff recommendation is approval of ordinance 2026-10 2026-11 and 26 or 2026-12. Commission recommendation was approval of ordinance 26 202610 202611 and 202612. City Council continue this at the last meeting um in April.

1:50:58 – 1:51:140

So staff is requesting approval of ordinance 202610, 202611 and 2026 uh 12. So the applicant is here to answer any questions. I am available to answer any questions that you may have.

1:51:12 – 1:52:540

Yes, sir. Thank you, Jeffrey. Would the applicant like to speak on the side? Yes. Good evening, mayor, council members. Chris Blurton with Interplan LLC representing the applicant, 220 East Central Parkway, Altoont Springs, Florida. Last time I was here before you representing this project, I think we started off the discussion with a discussion of the highquality development that the city would be looking for on this site in addition to meeting the requirements of the Narusi Road Overlay District, which we we gladly accept and encourage uh as part of this development. However, as I believe a member of the public got up to speak and discussed some of the specific uses that the the public would not want to be seen here, more automotive centric uses and large, you know, big box self- storage facilities. Uh we I believe the city council also some of the members agreed that you know, you've got enough self- storage facilities here, you've got enough car washes. So, I requested a continuence, went back to the developer and discussed this with them. Uh there was a little bit of a a hard discussion. Sometimes the developers feel like you're you're picking their pocket. You start talking about potential uses you're taking out of the the potential mix. However, with working with staff, working with the developer, we've come up with these condition or the uh uses that would be restricted from the normal highway business zoning categories. Uh again, as staff mentioned, car washes, self storage, most of the automotive centric uses like t uh tire shops and car tenting facilities such as those. So, we hope this meets with the the city's vision for this Narusi Road overlay district and the corridor of Narusi Road and we look forward to bringing some high quality development to the city and the residents.

1:52:53 – 1:53:380

Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Um Yeah. And for all of our citizens that are paying attention to this, we hear what you don't want anymore. The more mini storage, more car washes, you know, and that's what this is. That's why uh last meeting, you know, we we obviously wanted those those prohibited uses added to that. Um any council comments to the for the applicant? We have uh Miss Betty Dempy here in the audience that would love to come up and speak with us. I think she just likes seeing us.

1:53:34 – 1:54:180

Take your time. Good evening everybody. Before we address this issue, which not much to address thankfully, Michael McDonald, an amazing rescue, I just want to let you know uh he is on my parade committee. Does an awesome job. So if you fall off of your float, he will be there to rescue. Yes. Yeah. He's always riding his bike right next to us. He's he and his crew, they're amazing. But anyway, we're very very grateful for the work that's been put into this and

1:54:15 – 1:54:320

the things that we were concerned about have been addressed and if these are approved, these restrictions are approved and stay with I guess the deed, the title,

1:54:29 – 1:55:150

not where we have to come back if a new developer comes in. So, it's permanent and we really appreciate your company and everyone working. Um, so really there's not much else to say. The only thing is if I'd like to address if they are considering a service station, a gas station, it be one of the more where the parking is to the pumps are in the rear. And uh I've seen several in various locations around the country that were done very well and actually fit into a residential community, not just another

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eight pumps outfront type thing. But thank you for working with us and for your consideration of what we do and do not need. Yes, ma'am. Batty, how many years have you lived in this community since late? Huh? 42. Mhm. Yeah. And you continue of my life.

1:55:32 – 1:56:150

I want to applaud you. All right. Obviously, you know, you and I we we speak a lot about different issues in in the community, but everything that affects that whole Narusi corridor, you reach out, you're involved, and you don't you don't just go out there and complain about it. You say, "We need a better project." And you were at the last meeting. You talked with with spoke with the developer, and you all worked it out. you I assume you spoke during this past month and here we are. That's what it takes is the community that you know if if in order for us to get it right, we need the community to to address those concerns as well and and get involved. So thank you.

1:56:12 – 1:56:550

Well, thank you. And if you remember those few of you here, Jen, you're here when Fred and I started the NARSY overlay. It was to simplify this type of process, have a standard that developers knew going in, you know, this is what we're looking for and to retain our community. You're out there and preserve what we have and to work with the developers before it comes in here and you have 25 people saying the same thing over and over. just somebody representing it, not me, somebody else saying this is what we've all been discussing. So, I hope it works.

1:56:53 – 1:57:100

Yeah. And that's another reason why we it's this is being annexed into the city. It's going to be commercial. That means we get a higher tax base. It's not going to be more homes. It's not going to be town homes, which is if it was left in the county, that's what it would have been, right? So, how would we know,

1:57:09 – 1:57:500

right? And and that's what we want to do. We we want to make sure that that we protect the future of our community with um if a project's going to be built, we want to make sure that we have our input in it, that the people in our community have the input in it. and that we could get quality commercial and hopefully more high-end professional bring to support the professionals that live here so they don't have to drive to Orlando or Winter Park or wherever. So, yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you. Thank you. Council comments.

1:57:49 – 1:59:340

Would anyone else in the audience like to speak on this item? Yes, sir. Thank you for seeing me, council. Uh, my name is Jonathan Randolph. I live at 607 California. Um, I just had a couple comments about this project coming in. Uh, forgive me for, um, not knowing how the thing works. This is my first time with council meeting. Um my son goes to um a homeschool co-op at the um Chisum Park which is about thousand feet from this location. Um he goes there he he goes there three days a week and he does his uh his homeschool studies there with other uh children his age. Um um in that same park we see um we see several animals who you don't see very often. You see uh you see wild turkeys, you see deer, you see um fox squirrels, not grrey squirrels, but fox squirrels, and 700 feet from the location um that's going up um yes, 700 feet there is a bald eagle nest. Um there is um this area right here is currently undeveloped and I understand you're saying that the county is looking to develop for residential, but it has failed to do so up to this point. Um, I am just am here to say I would like to discourage a commercial parking lot going there, taking away the eagle's hunting area, taking away the free roam area for the turkeys and the other animals to call this area home. Um, if you have any questions, you're welcome to, but that that's the maximum of my uh comments.

1:59:31 – 2:00:150

Yes, sir. Thank you. Um, do we we rent the park out for a home school group for a school? What are we doing at Chism Park? I'm assuming he means one of the houses. It's a there's a there's a co-op that meets at at the location. It's it's just a bunch of homeschool kids that get together three days a week and they do school on the picnic tables. Okay. Now I'm understanding that. Okay. It's not that's not their physical address. No, we are all um You said they're located there. We're all officially classified as homeschoolers, but there are teachers and there are people who go there and we all come together and we have group activities. We're having school where everything like a school-l like setting but with a home school background.

2:00:13 – 2:00:270

Okay. And I believe this parcel is north of the subdivision. Um the that's in between the park. The Chisum Park is 1,000 ft south, right? And there's a subdivision in between. So there's already a developed subdivision.

2:00:25 – 2:01:010

Like I say, the animals do traverse between that area because I apologize because it is low density and I have seen them personally traveling between that neighborhood. There's also a lake um on the um you'll see that that connects directly with a wooded area to that location like there's a natural corridor between uh house I forget the name of the house that um where the road turns and there's also a um and then there's a wooded quarter that connects to the property to that property in question.

2:00:58 – 2:01:420

Okay. Yeah. And and as I said before that if we don't annex this in the the property owners have rights and so if they're going to the county and they want to develop the property they want to sell it for development and the county tells them we want them to do residential they and they don't want to do residential. If the developer doesn't want to do residential, we definitely don't need more residential. We've got plenty of that. So they contacted the city of St. cloud and they want to do commercial. So, we can't we can't tell them they can't develop, but others can. Am I allowed to respond to what you're saying? Yes, sir. Absolutely.

2:01:39 – 2:01:530

Okay. Um you're saying that they'll be allowed to do um residential, correct? Um that Well, that's in the county. The county allows it. We're not We're not even talking about residential in the city that that property.

2:01:52 – 2:02:360

I understand what you're saying. Um which means they're allowed to do it. They've been allowed to do it for a while now. um they're looking to put a commercial which is guaranteed to go in there. I would also like to point out that um uh 2,00 to 2,500 ft north there is a plenty of commercial zones that are ready to be developed in the city of Narusi. Um particularly at um I'm so sorry Yates and Jones there's a bunch of empty land parcels up there that um are right for development that don't have the same natural impact that I was talking about. Yes, sir. And I don't know that they own that property. Oh, no, they don't. But they have the rights to their property. Understand? And they have the right to develop their property.

2:02:34 – 2:03:180

Our job is to ensure that it's developed properly and and to the best use of the city of St. Cloud. That that's all we can ask for and you know, that's all we can hope for. So, if it's going to be developed in the county and if it moves forward and get sold for development for say town homes or apartments, I don't think that's what the citizens of St. cloud one even though it's getting de developed in into the county that way if they get the approvals that in that direction. I would rather it annex in the city of St. Cloud and get commercial zoning on it so we get a higher tax base so the citizens don't have to pay higher taxes. I I care about the citizens and their in their bank account. So um thank you for the council sign.

2:03:15 – 2:03:570

Yes, sir. I appreciate you. All right. Any other council comments? Anyone else in the public like to speak on this item? Will the clerk uh do I have a motion on this? Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Council member Urban. Second. Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? Council member Paul. I. Council member Urban. Hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Council member Fletcher. Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries 40. Thank you. And will the clerk please read item number five? Excuse me.

2:03:54 – 2:04:390

Am I right? Oh, sorry. Number six. Is that No, that was number four. 112. Yeah, I said five. Right. We already two items. Oh, you don't have to read it. I'm sorry. Can I get a motion? It's for these folks. I'm sorry. Can uh Can I get a motion? Item number five. Motion. Motion from Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Second. Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? Now it's you. Council member Urban. Hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. I. Mayor Robertson. I. Motion carries. 4 Z. And can I get a motion item number six? Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Council member Urban. Second. Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? Deputy Mayor Gilbert.

2:04:39 – 2:05:130

Hi. Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. Hi. Council member Urban. Hi. Mayor Robertson. I. Motion carries 40. Thank you. And will the clerk please read item number seven? Final public hearing for ordinance number 2026-23. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud, Florida, amending St. Cloud City Code Chapter 8 animals section 8-7 exemption for nonfor-profit youth and special needs adult organizations providing for serability conflict codification publication effective date.

2:05:13 – 2:07:020

Good evening again. Jeffrey Ball, community development director. Before you is a code amendment uh for the 4 exemption. At the city council meeting on February 12, city council directed staff to amend section 8-7 of the city code. 8-7 established exemptions to chapter 8 animals of the city code. Exemptions must uh still follow restrictions set forth in 8-6. So the proposed language and you can see from the underlying uh the proposed amendment is notwithstanding the foregoing at the time of annexation of property qualified for and received a valid 4H or future farmers of America exemption under the Ocula County code. The property shall be considered non-conforming and shall be exempt from the provisions of section 8-6. The non-conforming status as granted here under shall be deemed abandoned of no effect if one at least one resident of the property has not participated in a 4H or FFA program for a period of two consecutive years or the owners or owner of the property at the time of annexation into the city sells or leases the property and no longer resides thereon. So staff recommendation is approval of ordinance 2026-23 planning commission on 421-26 was approval of ordinance 2026-23 city council requested action is approval of ordinance 2026-23. So that concludes staff's presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you

2:07:03 – 2:07:480

Jeff. I didn't hear the word chicken in there anywhere. No sir, you will not. This is this has nothing to do with chickens. This is just for the exemption uh to allow for 4 members and FFA. Yes, sir. Thank you very much. All right. Would anyone in the audience like to speak on this item? Council comments. Can I get a motion? Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Council member Paul. Second. Second. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Will the clerk please call the role? Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. I. Council member Urban. Hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Mayor Robertson. Hi.

2:07:450

Motion carries 40.

2:07:48 – 2:08:540

On to council action. We already did council action. There was only one item. Next up, first readings and introduction. The next items on the agenda for ordinances before the council for first reading and introduction for the sole purpose of council authorizing the publication of the ordinance for a final hearing. The council will not take final action on the items tonight. Full presentations and public input on the ordinances will occur at the final hearing at which the council will consider final action. Will the clerk please read first reading item number two or yes item number two. First read an introduction for ordinance number 2026-26 an ordinance of the city council of city of St. C city of St. Cloud amending chapter 38 streets, sidewalks, and other public places to create a new section 38-6 permit required for usage of public property for compensation consideration providing for conflict severability administr administrative correction codification publication effective date. And can I get a motion on that?

2:08:52 – 2:09:360

Motion approved. Council member Urban. I think I have a second from second. Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? Council member Paul. I. Council member Urban. Hi. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi. Council member Fletcher. Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries 4 Z. Will the clerk please read item number three. First reading introduction for ordinance number 2026-27. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Florida amending chapter 3 performance and inciting standards article 14 use regulations and section 3.14.5 alcoholic beverage establishments providing for conflict survability administrative correction codification and public publication effective date. Can I get a motion? Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Uh council member Paul

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second. Second. Council member Urban. Will the clerk please call the role? Council member Urban I. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. I. Council member Fletcher. Council member Paul. Hi. Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries 40. City attorney. I do not have anything, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Thank you, sir. City manager.

2:09:55 – 2:11:530

I have a few items. Thank you. Um, first I wanted to inform the council. You know, we we have hired quite a few public safety staff in the past few years thanks to the council's support. Um, and as a result, I'm needing to move forward and get them a HR position that's going to be a business partner to public safety and and will work in both police, fire, and HR to support the departments. So, thank you for the continuous support that you've made to public safety that caused this need. Um, our you may have noticed that our communications staff did not come to take the picture earlier today and that's because they are they went in to the Florida Municipal Communications Association to receive two outstanding awards. First for the Cloudcast podcast. This is the second year that we won. And also for our comprehensive marketing plan for the fourth at the lake last year. So congratulations to our communications team. And last, uh, I just wanted to thank OU for having the city come and visit the power plant this past month. It was I learned a lot. Um, I've never never been in such an industrial facility like that. It was it was really eye opening to see what they're doing for our residents to ensure um that we're having the quality service without the interruptions. And also I just want to also thank them for the power plant cleanup site as anyone can drive by it. It looks amazing. Um originally the budget was 6.5 million for that. OU gave us an additional 2 million and the project came in right under that. So um we're we're fingers crossed that through the monitoring period there's no additional changes but it was right on budget. So that's it. Thank you.

2:11:500

Yes, ma'am. Thank you. And Council Member Paul.

2:11:55 – 2:12:480

Um yes, I have a couple things I want to say. First, thank you to the public works director, Kevin. Um I've had a few um complaints from residents and um I did send an email up to our city manager, Veronica, and him and um he addressed them quickly and the residents were happy about it. So, want to say thank you again um for doing that. And then my second comment is um it's regarding the um Walker property. I know um we've had discussion before, but um if there's ever opportunity where that project does not move forward, I would ask that we consider looking at it for maybe purchase and do something useful for the community. So, Yes, ma'am.

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That's it. All right. And so, you're saying add it to Chism Park? Yes.

2:12:54 – 2:14:130

Okay. Council member Urban. Uh just a couple of things. Um I I like that idea a lot. Maybe we can partner with the county uh to to I know they've been asking us to add some ball fields. That would be a location that we could possibly look at. Um on the I know we had our first reading tonight on the on the alcohol ordinance and I've been uh talking with uh multiple business owners throughout our downtown area. I know we had a workshop on this. Um I I'm just a little concerned about that that uh 12 a.m. cut off that we have both from an enforcement perspective on the city's end and I'm just not a fan of government telling private businesses that they have to close you know certain you know so just discussion something to think about as we get to the to the second reading that's just the I love everything else in the ordinance I think it cleans up a lot but I just have some concerns over that. Um, and then uh last I was just going to see if u as we um approach uh the 250th birthday of what I believe is the greatest nation on earth, America. I was going to see if we can get maybe some America 250 banners or flags for uh for Veterans Park or City Hall.

2:14:10 – 2:14:470

I think we got those. Somebody put some flags. I don't know. So on the stage there are the I don't know what the correct term is, but they're like half moon. And I I I think um we spoke earlier and I think he's looking for something a little bit more than that. Just I mean I think we have a great American city, a lot of lot of history here in the 250 years of America and to uh to celebrate that. So just wanted the council to consider that as well. I agree. Um is that something you want to give the city manager some ideas on what kind of flags or Yeah, I could I could Are they Are they a certain flag that they they're producing for

2:14:45 – 2:15:210

um I mean saying like America's 250. Yeah, even like a banner on city hall or something just to I know like the chamber has something similar like that just to commemorate the 250th anniversary. I love the idea. We'll we'll we'll see what our options are um and and move forward. Love it. That's all I have. All right. C Deputy Mayor Gilbert, that's called bunting. Yep. That's it. Thank you. You're welcome. Mr. Event,

2:15:22 – 2:17:220

you know, I I don't get much a chance to talk to council, so I just want to give a brief update of what's been going on uh a as as your representative here for Metro Plan and the Transportation Disadvantage Board. We met Wednesday uh with Metrop Plan and everything's going really well. And I gave you a couple brochures, one about uh air development and the other about bicycles and and accidents. So, I would like to tell you that we're working on a on a slow roll program that I started with Metro Plan and we're going to break that out uh for the citizens. We also have a a safety course for ebikes. There's 700 uh folks that enrolled uh celebration is the only county one right now, but we plan to bring that to all of county and the St. Cloud. And it's a it's a class in safety for um for ebikes and bikes. And what it does, it it lowers the insurance for for the family. So, we are working on the bill has been passed. Uh that the numbers are the statistics are absolutely crazy. Uh um I don't know if anybody's experienced it. I've experienced them going through on 13th Street and 10th Street uh and red lights and cutting across people. So, um it's never a problem till it's a problem, but we're trying to address that council. Uh secondly, I'm a chairman of boarded transportation dis disadvantage board and we had great uh meetings today. Uh the board met today and we talked about new technology for disadvantaged people and that is within callbacks, within app apps, within uh uh uh uh on the internet and also uh phone messages with training to help the disadvantaged make these appointments because we had out of 679,000 riders last year in in this the three different counties, there was 48,000 no-shows. That equated to $2.8 million. Although it it it it doesn't sound like a lot, it is a lot. And when the $2.8 million was the billable hours and when I was told that it didn't cost us anything, it does cost you. It cost you

2:17:20 – 2:19:050

time, cost you money, cost you vehicles, cost everything. So, I promise you uh thank you for allowing me be on that one board gave me to the next board and we're working on better things for the disadvantaged folks here in Seminal, Oyola, and Orange County is what we cover with Metropan uh mayor and council. Uh uh on Tuesday I went to the canery for uh links meeting with the vendors. Uh I thought this was a great economic development uh process they did. They brought in the vendors and links came in and talked to them about how they could be vendors for links uh be it mechanical diesel um transportation needs uh subcontracting needs. We had over 40 members there that have businesses in St. Cloud. So if we can use those as a subcontractor for links I think that's good economic development. So that happened on Tuesday. I thought that was a great job. I went to the Stafford plant with with you. That was cool. That was like the coolest thing ever. Uh you you turn on your light at home and you go, "Wow, that's cool." You don't know how it happened. We all just toured how that happens. and the difference between natural gas and coal and wind and they have they're they're they're doing a great job and and for us we're we have keep up to the city as it's growth they have to keep up with the growth too as so I was so glad to share those moments with you and and look at that plant and see what they're doing but Roni didn't tell you and it was cool because I met with the CEO and I was walking there and they had allotted $6.5 million for that cleanup over there I don't know how it happened but she got two ext ext bill out of it and we didn't have to pay a penny for it. So I Veronica, thank you for doing that. Um I don't the CEO came and she's arguing with me. So I guess you whatever happened it worked. So So

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pushed hard again. There there's there's arguabilities on both sides of timing and and expedition and and what it was then until what it has done. But it's done now. It's great now. We're going to be able to utilize that for future projects here in the city of St. Cloud. So I I think that's great. I was so excited. I was like kid and cancer were going there and seeing all the the operations center how they work things and thank you for allowing me to share that with you. Uh to uh Saturday I'll be at the BMX at 8:15 with with other councils uh and we'll be uh going for their national they have a national BMX uh there. I have to tell you that advanced air mobility is coming to town and I was with Metro Plan and what that means is it just what it says you're going to have hovers that are going to park in your driveway. You're going to drive up and you're going to fly to your destination. You come down. There'll be uh vehicles, two-seaters, four- seaters, uh autonomous vehicles, uh and they'll be guided by G GPS. And it's coming. One thing that's cool about it is the FAA and uh and FDOT have uh designated Florida as their their training and testing stations. So, when we go out to those stations, I'll be inviting all council to go there to see how they're doing it. We're working right now with FA FAA to to find out what paths are, what how people travel east, north, south, and west if it's 200, 300, 400. But this is happening, and I always refer it back to the Jetsons. Uh I know some of you guys aren't old like me, but that that's what it that's seriously going to happen. Now, what that does for us, it's going to be affordable because the carbon manufacturers will make these these hovers. And also, what it will do is it'll save money on streets and roads. If you think about how much putting in that and as you know land is very expensive and they don't make more dirt except here you're in Hong Kong where they put sand in and next week you're not at beachside you're two week two two weeks in so I'll keep addressing it on that and and and folks say something but I don't know if anybody knows this but

2:20:58 – 2:22:320

1914 the first commercial flight was here in Florida and and you look back why well Tampa the only way to get to St. Pete was a 4-hour train ride or two and a half hour bus ride. The first commercial plane was from Tampa to St. Pete. So, we are ahead of the a avionics and we are just the state that does these kind of things. So, hold your breath, put your seat belts on. It will happen. Maybe in not my time, I think so, but but definitely in your time and our children's time. So, I think that's a great thing for the state of Florida to pick up. And someone says, well, why do we do this? And we look at technology and we have technology everywhere. This cell phone right here I is it was patented in 1942 and the big companies M Bell and all that stuffed it down, stuffed it down, stuffed it down and didn't want to do it. The lady that did it gave all the her patents to the United States of America because she loved the country so much. So, if you don't think the cell phones work, it took a little while, but they will be uh uh self-passenger flights as in cars. So, I'd like to thank the council for allowing me to uh be in this group with with the avionics and with with the uh with with the metrop plan. And that's my report. I'm sorry that I'm elongated, but I don't get to talk to you guys very much of what we do. But I know you all have a lot going on. We do, too. But I'm so proud to be a part of this council. Thank you, Mayor.

2:22:29 – 2:22:470

Very cool. So, are they talking about these vehicle like you said in every side driveway or is this going to be like a centralized location in the city where people can go and then that airplane or whatever that that uh vehicle will take them wherever they need to go?

2:22:45 – 2:23:440

Great question. Uh, mayor, uh, right now the, uh, MCO and and, uh, um, the, uh, city airport have designated spaces for these helports and, and that's what we're doing, and we're doing safety zones now. But, um, it will be first be a helport area. You'll take your car to the helport, you'll take that. But in time, these vehicles will be able to come to your driveway because they will be the size of a car. And with GPS, with the uh autonomous driving, it will go from driveway to driveway and it will map out how you get there. Now, that's not the first part, but that's a great question. Right now, we got kind of like helports that we're working on to test and test all those and I'll bring you out there. The game plan is is every family to have one of these and be just as affordable as anything else and to be safer and also to to take away the highways and byways of this country so we can continue to build in in these areas.

2:23:42 – 2:24:160

Would these drive like a car down the road and then take off at a safe location? At this time they will not, mayor. They will be hovers. They will come up in the air and then go to their destination. uh if you you've seen them. I I know it's jets and stuff. I know. I'm thinking about power lines all over our city. I don't know how again again if you look at satellites, you look at GPS, you look at autonomous vehicles. Uh I have one warehouse by way more Whimo and I was there the other day and there's 15 Whimos just pulling out picking up people and going. So it's it's here.

2:24:14 – 2:24:590

It really is. And I've asked the the board also to look at a way most for the uh transportation disadvantage because of the cost of personnel and maintenance. So I I understand the how it's going to be done, but with technology so advanced right now, I I truly believe that I thought it'd be a little longer in the next five or 10 years folks will have one in their driveway. I I don't know. It's that's just a Ken Gilbert thing, but it's really really cool and it's happening regardless. in Florida is the main spot for the development of this. That's very cool. Yeah, I I got invited to something at MCO, I think it was, and I haven't gone to it, but uh I think it was the other day.

2:24:57 – 2:25:130

And they showed a picture of this thing, and I just I look forward to seeing how that works in, you know, in the grid. Yes. So, thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Um is that all you had, Deputy Mayor?

2:25:11 – 2:27:110

Yes, sir. I yield back. I'm sorry. Yes, sir. Okay. Um, I'll go ahead and start talking about I think I said it earlier. Sold uh Soldier City Market is now going to be second and fourth Saturdays of every month from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. Vendors, veteran resources, food truck items. U you know, I know it's going to be summertime, so it's going to still slow down a little bit, but you know, once we we do want to continue a a good thing and what's good for the community. So, and you know what's awesome is for the past six, seven months, we have activated Veterans Park every weekend. Um, but about a month ago, we started to every other week. So, every other weekend, while we're talking about parks, uh, Chisum Park, obviously, uh, we've got a gate out there and and I've talked about this in the in the past, and I I just want to have discussion about it. There's a way. Before I got on council, we had the duck hunters and people that fish. They contacted me and said, "Hey, you know, we can't even go out there and duck hunt or fish because the gate doesn't open up until the sun comes up and the gate closes before the sun goes down." So, or as the sun's going down. So, that keeps um those folks from being able to enjoy the lake. So, I don't know if there was a way that maybe we can move the gate or um figure something out to allow it to happen. I I got a phone call from somebody who he got a ticket because he was parking there. He said, "I have no problem paying the boat trailer parking fees. I'm I'm good with that." And he he'd be the best spokesperson for it because he said, "Yeah, every park you go to, every boat ramp you go into, you got to pay that and you guys are are cheap." He said, ' But but what I don't like is that when I come back to my boat and I got a ticket and you know it was just starting to get dark and and maybe we extend the the time out, you know, because I guess he went out to Krabby Bills. He they were out in the lake. They drove the the boat over to Krabby Bills. By the time they

2:27:09 – 2:27:530

got back, the sun had just gone down and so of course these the gates locked up or getting locked. Um so he he got a ticket and yes, we do have a policy that says that. But we also as a council have the ability to amend that policy and maybe we match it up with Krabby Bills hours or maybe uh a half hour or an hour after Krabby Bills closes because we do want to promote economic development. We we do want people on that side if they're out on the lake to go to the restaurant and be able to get back to their boats. I think what do y'all think about that? I mean, that's just a that's a great question, Mayor, because if if they're coming back, I mean, there should be I don't want to call it gray area, but there's going to be some kind grace period.

2:27:51 – 2:28:050

Yeah, grace period, something because one, you just said it, they're spending money in our city. And two, they're probably heading back when when it's dust to dawn. And that changes as the seasons change as as you know. So,

2:28:04 – 2:28:560

and this gentleman doesn't live in our city. So, he was spending money in our at the restaurant there and in a building that that that that business pays rent to us. So I think that trickle down. Uh we do want the businesses to to succeed there and and so it's just something to talk about. So if we can look into so I think we need to set a set time instead of the dust to dawn and I think maybe a set time is the year you know maybe we amend it throughout the year because I know the sun changes you know the the time change. So city manager Well, I heard two two different time frames. I heard one after Krabby Bills closes, like a half hour after, which I I think they're probably open till around 9:00, which is which is different than than a little bit after sunset. So,

2:28:55 – 2:29:160

well, I think after Well, no, what I'm saying is that's what it does now at sunset. That's the But what I'd like to see is maybe an hour after Krabbyville's closes. So, let's say 10 o'clock. I mean, what if that's the pleasure of the council? If we don't want to move the gate, let's at least give the voters time to if they're going to be going to the restaurant to get back.

2:29:14 – 2:29:540

Yeah. Uh good evening, mayor, city council. Scott David off, deputy city manager. Um Chisum then and part of the reasons and I know that this conversation has happened before. Um the reason that Chisum is a little bit different than the lakefront uh ramp is because the park itself is that the security concerns then if that is open there there was a security concern in there. So I just wanted to make sure everybody was aware of what that is. But we can certainly take a look at at what can be done for that. But that was the reason for the the difference in the hours where at lakefront it's a little bit different than Chisum where you can get into the back of the park and and have that.

2:29:52 – 2:30:490

Yeah. And that's just where I say is there a way if maybe if we move the the gate because I understand we don't and we do have an officer who lives out there and he does an amazing job and and you know to stay up at I don't know if he goes to bed at 10 o'clock or not or you know I know he locks the gate, right? Is that part of the duties? Um but as we start um if we look into having say code enforcement officer on call at all times uh code compliance officer you know especially when we start having our our entertainment district that stays open later we're encouraging more activity there um that could be one of the roles of going out there and ensuring that that gate's closed. So, I don't want to put it all on our police department to be gate, you know, openers and closers. I think, um, you know, I think we could we could spread those duties out some. I don't know. It's just for discussion, you know, if y'all can look into that.

2:30:48 – 2:31:150

Well, I think there was consensus. So, we'll we'll we'll move forward with I think one or the other. May I ask a question, Mayor? Yes, sir. Is there lighting at that those those ramps? If if there is it might be like one at the ramp. That was my only concern coming in because it's pretty dark when in that area when it gets dark. But yeah, I I don't have that answer question. Thank you, Mayor.

2:31:13 – 2:32:220

Yeah. And I got contacted way early on when I first got elected from Ducks Unlimited. You know, the organization they president of that called me and said, "Hey, you know, we can't we can't go duck hunting out there. We can't go fishing. And you know, we do we love our sportsmen. We love our the agriculture here. We love the way of life that of course we we all once enjoyed here. I know things have changed a little bit, but we do want to protect what um the parts that we still can enjoy. So, it's just just, you know, I I know we've these are growing pains in and trying to get it right. It's not always easy. So, I just think as we we hit these bumps in the road and somebody who who has no problem going along with, you know, he says, "Yeah, you guys improve that boat ramp. I don't mind paying theundund I don't remember the fees, $160 a year, right? I don't mind paying that, but I can't even go to eat and come back and get out. So, um, and that's no fault of any of our staff for locking the gate. That's the policy that we set, you know. So, but it's with us. It's on us to talk about it and make changes if changes need to be made.

2:32:20 – 2:32:500

Can I ask one more question to the city manager? City manager, could you when you do the studies, can you find out what the adjacent towns are doing with their park closures and openings and if there are different uh we'll say Lakeland, let's say CMI, let's say Pulp County just just to see what their policies are. If that's okay, mayor, when they do the investigation. Yes, sir. Would that be okay? Yep. Yes, we will. Thank you. Yeah.

2:32:48 – 2:34:470

All right. Uh, I want to add on what Council Member Urban said. I agree. Um, with the downtown, I don't like telling businesses what to do. Uh, we're in a weird situation on that one where there's there's operations occurring that's outside of the code now. And I think what makes it a little different than many other downtowns is we have the single family surrounding us, immediate surrounding. And that's where I I thought that if if if those restaurants um if they start closing up at 12 and then the other ones close up at 2, it kind of starts winding down the downtown. You know, kind of steps it down. Um because I do know that there's there's some establishments that stay open till 12:00 or 2 o'clock and it's, you know, a lot of music all night, you know, blaring through the whole downtown. And if I hear it a block and a half away, I'm sure the people across the street hear it as well. And if if we all want to see the St. Cloud Hotel eventually be completed and we want people in there uh to enjoy a good night's sleep somehow. Um I don't know that that would be possible the way we have it now. So I I want to start fixing things before and let's say let's say an investor comes in and the the the current owner wants to sell it. We wouldn't know that, right? That's a that's a private deal. If a if the the current owner wants to sell it and there's a potential buyer, he goes over there to look at it and we've got two live crew playing all night. Not saying that that's the band that's playing, but I mean there's music similar to that just blaring throughout our whole downtown. I think that would distract deter a potential buyer. I know I would not buy that building. Um, and I know, uh, you know, we've looked like, how can anybody sleep in that place if we, you know, how can we expect something to be

2:34:44 – 2:36:330

redeveloped there if if we've got some of these things occurring here? So, I'd like to see this the downtown kind of wind down once it gets to the the we hours of the we hours of the night. Is that the right term? I never use that. But, love our downtown, love our businesses. I want all of them to succeed. I just think when everybody works together and and I've met with a handful of them, I think we can make that work and I think I have nothing else to say other than I know this council loves this community. Every decision we make, I can bet my life that nobody's taking a kickback. I know everybody likes to say that out there on social media when we try and do everything we can to benefit the citizens in the community. this $60 million project that's going to occur in this parking lot right here. And and I read all the social media comments because I want to know. I love I enjoy knowing what the residents have to say and what they want in our community. That's the feedback we get. I've seen some some comments that don't match up to what reality is. Um I I don't I've I've never heard of any of these council members getting kickbacks or patting their pockets. I believe I'm I think my salary is $33,000 a year from city of St. Cloud and I enjoy it but and I work very hard uh in that position. I know council member uh council member Gilbert currently is probably at half of that. Um so we know I mean these people love this community. us three, we grew up here. And this guy's been here probably longer than Kobe because, you know, he's been here what, 35 years, I believe.

2:36:320

37. 37, right? You're not 37 yet, right? 36.

2:36:36 – 2:38:360

36. See, there we go. So, he was here first. But that's what I'm saying. We are all part of this community. We love the community. We wanted I would love I grew up off Narusi Road in the county, right? Back when Turtle Creek was a ranch, there were chicken farms. There was citrus. There were pecan trees. There was, you know, you name it. Uh, cattle, you know, where I grew up, it was all country. It was way out in the middle of nowhere. Well, now it's an enclave where the city surrounds it. Yes, I would love to go back 25, 30 years ago when it was that. That's how I grew up. That's what I enjoyed. But that's not reality. So the only the only thing we can do is help control it in a manner um that's beneficial to our community. One, we don't have jobs. Everybody in our community knows we lack job opportunities in our community. So everybody's hitting the road every day. So everybody says, "Well, we don't have enough roads." Well, the roads are there. The problem is we don't have jobs here. So everybody's hitting the roads every day. So we can't keep up with that. Even if you get onto the turnpike, turnpike's not wide enough. So, even if we were able to get you onto the turnpike, there's too many people hitting the turnpike every day. They're all going to work outside of our city. I know this council, this staff is working very hard to create jobs in our community. That's why we've gone the economic development route. Um, that's why when we're looking up Narusi Road, you know, we want commercial there. We don't need to stack more people living on that road. And we are limited to our with our commercial options. We only have so many roads that are our main roads. We've got Narusi, we've got 192. You know, we're not going to develop commercial properties, you know, all the way throughout the grid. You know, that's just

2:38:33 – 2:40:280

that doesn't make any sense. So, Narusi Road going commercial over residential I believe was 100% the route the right path to go and okay that's all I have to say. So, it's just it it gets old because I believe this council responds to the citizens. I believe we respond to everything that the citizens want. No more no more car washes, no more storage units, you know, and and that's where it takes the the citizens to actually be part of the community with us. We want a happy community. We want the the people in the community to to enjoy this community and to love our community and not spread hatred on social media and and let's be all all part of of the solutions here. So with that I will go on to the information section report section. We have the recreation advisory committee minutes from January 21st 2026. The finance committee minutes January 20th 2026 reports warrant list number seven fiscal year 26. Thursday, May 21st, 2026, City Council workshop, 2:30m, City Hall, Council Chambers. Monday, May 25th, 2026, City Offices closed in observance of Memorial Day. Thursday, June 11th, city council meeting, 6:30 p.m., City Hall, Council Chambers. Friday, June 12th, 2026, Veterans Council meeting, 100 p.m. City Hall. Monday, June 15, 2026, special city council meeting. 2:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. Monday, June 15, 2026, city council workshop. Immediately following the special council meeting, city hall council chambers. With that, this meeting is adjourned.

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