County Commission - Regular Meeting

attention to discuss these things publicly right here at the end of it. Right. I mean, uh, it's really come on. I'm glad we've had people comment because for a long time it wasn't nobody's nobody's come in. We just us talking to each other. Uh, so we were having to compare what other people had and we're not like other people necessarily. we're an individual county growing in a particular way and uh so it's it's going to be a process before we actually put them out there ready to take some action on some finalized versions.

Uh I think we're going to have to define u uh what the variance process would be. It's in the document. We'll probably need to talk about what that is. What what if you disagree with one of the items in there and you want to apply for a variance, you know, how complicated is is that? And I'm sure we want to make it as simple as possible. Uh that doesn't mean you'll get a yes every time that you making it simple to get here to address your question. Yeah.

Already saying well this cover document here says you can't give a to your son never has been that it hadn't been that for years. Uh and and won't be that. So but that's that's kind of what happens here. Well I this is what this document says. just now getting caught up. So, u it's like a lot of things, you don't pay attention to it till it starts affecting you, right? So, okay.

All right. Uh the next thing uh we want to talk about is doing a uh basically agreement. City of Springville uh they have a parking lot at their sports complex that uh I want to get some turn gravel pavement on. Uh, we're going to get things together. If y'all are good with us going ahead, let's We're targeting probably the August time frame to to doing this. It needs to be before their school starts back. I would I would guess uh I would hopefully say I don't really know if there's that much school traffic. This is at a the city park, right?

This is Yeah. Go past Walmart. That out there is that dirt parking all that. I mean, it's a pretty frequently visited I mean a lot of fields and stuff out there. Um, Mayor, would you want to

uh Yeah, I I want to thank you for working on Village Springs Road, too. I'm excited to uh see some of that get done. But yeah, so I met with uh Commissioner Brown out at our sports complex. Uh it's the Springfield Sports Station, but it's more affectionately known as the the Fields at Walmart, I think. But um you know, this is a project that was started a long time ago and and it's just, you know, due to funds hasn't been completed, but uh the the main parking lot in the drive-in is nothing but gravel and we've painted it, tried to make spaces on it. we, you know, done some things like that. But, um, it's a very highly used facility and it's not just a Spring thing. Spring kind of operates as a hub for Odin and Asheville and Moody of Margaret and Argo for some of these. So, a lot of the communities from around come and play some of the different sports on on these fields. And if you go out there on the right day or the right night, you'll see a nice haze of dust that is just all the way up to 23 where it ties in on the other side of Walmart. It's it's pretty

Buffalo Stampede. It's pretty It's pretty rough. It's pretty rough. And you know, we thought we'd reach out to the county and see if we could get get some help because it would have an impact on the surrounding communities as well and just the quality of what we're offering to them. So, we're talking about we mentioned August uh which means they go through basically another ball season time

uh until then and uh uh and we're talking about tar and gravel which is something we could do fairly quickly once we get everything there. Takes a lot to mobilize our tar and gravel equipment because it's bunch of trucks and bunch of equipment to do it. So, um, do you have any contractors that can do that instead or I we always struggle to have a a chip and seal target gravel contractor? I mean, we do uh I guess we the mo most of the work is probably going to be in the prep of getting everything ready. We would have to do that either way, basically.

Dan, how long do you think it take to to to do that project? We're probably looking at four days of prep work and everything. I guess what I'm trying to do is move it up into the into the ball season time. There's not a real good ball season time because it's soccer. I've got our our parks and recck director here, too. We talked a little bit about that and I'd love to see it be pushed up, too, but we've also got soccer that's starting right now and that's that's high time for that facility. So really that end of July or early August may actually end up being the best time since it's going to have to be shut down for four days. I think it might actually work out too.

That time frame works into y'all's time frame. I think I think it will. I'd love to see it done before they get hot and heavy in it. But and I guess that would coincide with school probably getting started back. So maybe some of the wreck sports will be will not be playing at that point in time. That's right. Yeah. that that that end of July, start of August is is one of their more dead times. We've got the cell phone data and all that stuff for traffic. I think it's I think it'll be that's Ashley Hayfields. That's right. We named them after her. Only when they're paid. You don't want them named after you right now with the dust. Yeah. I just I appreciate the consideration. Sure. And we thank you, Dan.

Okay. Well, like I said, we'll we'll go ahead and get the paperwork going on that and make sure it gets around to everybody. Try to target that time frame that's down for them. Okay. U Yes. The last thing I have is just an update on NRCS, the cleanup there, Wolf Creek around the Roberts Mill Pine. Uh we've got the bids advertised and everything. We're going to have a pre-bid meeting on April the second. And of course bids opening on April the 10th. Hope we'll have some good bids and can awarded after that.

I'll have much questions. Appreciate you. If you would hang around too, I think we're going to move into the uh Ashley's uh the discussion we just had with the engineers and all and uh we'll get Ashley to mention that project and you can discuss that with us and what we found out about uh sewer out at the U egg center uh event center property. So, if y'all hang around for that. Sure. Will. And do we want to discuss We don't want to discuss anything to do with y'all's uh proposals y'all were making earlier either today. Y'all ready to look at those? Want to talk about that? We haven't everyone. We haven't discussed it with everyone yet.

Okay. Uh does everyone have a copy of what you had? Is because we know Dan's trying to retire. We're doing everything we can to throw roadblocks at it. Uh but he's he's he's uh he's gone around most of them so far and they have a proposal on on how we address changing of the staff in the meantime. So be sure you get a copy of their proposal. Uh and and really their proposal overall is you're going to end up spending less money overall than we are now and and actually even have more people which gives you an idea how much overpaid we're adding we adding one person cutting 80 grand. So

maybe maybe you are the highest paid guy in the county there. You worth every penny of it then you could get that recorded. Oh, hey. It is. It is. We can't get away from it. Some of us would say, "You're worth every penny of that, Dan, as long as you go ahead and leave." We are. We We would like to keep Dan. And I don't know what we're going to do to to send you off with some kind of celebration or something. But, uh, uh, hopefully you may even be available to look at some coming back here for some contract work. I don't know. man.

Start with Robert Mil. Let's do one thing at a time. Okay. All right. Thanks again. Um, moving on forward with what we were talking about. If uh Ashley will come up and and do her updates on the arena and event center, we'll sort of slide into the discussion we had on sewer versus septic system versus etc. Cool.

Okay. I don't have a whole lot. We had the rodeo last weekend. Everything went well there. Um this weekend, uh Friday and Saturday, we've got the Rustic Bucket Vintage Market, and that's all indoors. Just been setting up for that today. And then you can see on our um the report a couple more events we've got coming up. Um let's see what's new. Okay, really the only other thing I have is I you may have seen on social media. I was looking for a little help with deep cleaning our facility since we have such high traffic. I really would like someone to help uh do a a deep clean once a month so it can help Stephen stay on top of it. And this would basically be dur be during the seasons like these past few months. It wouldn't be every single um month that we have a low lower volume but in our high volume months a deep clean for the for the facility. So I reached out and got some prices for that. Um, two of the lowest prices I got, one was 550 a month and the other one was $4.95. My recommendation would be for um, S, it's called SCS SI, Southern Cleaning Service, Inc. out of Springville. Um, they have commercial equipment and u supplies and cleaning materials that I feel confident would be best suited for commercial facilities uh, versus residential. And um, I've worked with them before. uh they they provide for us our cleaning supplies for the event center. So confident they'll do a good job if if and it's within our um my current budget. So no budget amendment or any change to that. Um we were having CentOS do Ultra Clean and we're just looking for a little bit more attention to detail in those high traffic areas. you know, uh, she has they clean up their own facility on a day-to-day basis, but when we have an event, uh, before we have the next month, and definitely the bathrooms need sanitized. There's some

flooring that needs work done on that. And that that takes an outside contractor of some kind to really do that like it should be done. Uh, and I think you got quite a few people there. Yeah, I think I think we had uh 10 quotes come in. Um, lots of people would just want to keep their information in the future. This is monthtomonth. There's no contract. So, if this doesn't work out, there's I got 10 other people I can I can call on. Um, and you know, uh, they're going to do some stripping. We've just have buildup and just, you know, it it needs a real these all these buildings need real good cleaning so we can take better care of them. But, yeah, we we got lots of interest in in the facility. So, I'm glad I had some quotes to sift through. But,

this will be ready just to take Ashley's recommendation then on Tuesday. How many you have in your budget for that? just curiosity. So, um each facility has its own amount that I budgeted for and I know the U pandemic center and the boat launch had a thousand and then the arena had around 3,000. Uh there's some so they'll it'll be split between those three. I have three different budgets that will serve this 550 a month. So, will that will that include um filling in the the gaps in the graffiti at the at the marina? I think there's graffiti. Yeah, we hire those people that paint Oh. Oh, yeah.

We can hire those people that paint on the side of train cars. Go out there, fill that in and make it colorful. Yeah. Better than trying to keep them from paint. That is planning that as well. Yes, boat launch. This includes the pandemic center, the arena, the boat launch, uh the showers at the boat at the arena. I think that covers it. Yeah, they're just just the bathroom and eventually the bathroom all the way at the back if we ever have. Yeah. Yeah. Might need to add it down the road, but Yeah. Okay. But uh yeah, I have the quote if anybody's wants to know exactly what all that includes. It's very detailed, in-depth top to bottom of a cleaning. So, I appreciate you looking at it. Yeah.

Uh we didn't just look at it as the nothing against it, but there's a lot of ladies wander around and clean houses and we're looking at it as a little bit of step up. This is basically cleaning of professional buildings and office buildings and that kind of thing. You got several people in that category. It's more of an industrial type cleaning situation. Yeah. But yeah, not like not a mop, not a broom. It's big machines that are going to come in and $6,600 a year. Uh, so we won't do it every month. Okay. It'll only be our high traffic months. Stephen can clean a bathroom. He I'm not trying to say that he can't. This is just to help us on the high volume. Yes. All right. Good.

Okay. And then did you just want me to summarize our meeting with the septic? Yeah, if you would. Uh, we we hired a a soil a specialist to look at the soils on the 22 acres and we already had some idea of what to do. Would there be an area if we put a just a small bathroom at the back corner? Is there anywhere out there that would perk for a bathroom?

And and what would it be to put a a an entire facility system in as compared to u partnering with Odinville to bring sewer out there. So that's kind of where we are. You heard the recommendation today, I think, both from the health department and the soil scientist. And what was the recommendation? recommendation is if there's a possibility that we can get sewer out there, we should do it. And it's we should do it. And uh there is not a huge rush, but you know, it would be nice to do sooner rather than later. We've got an option to possibly put an addition because the issue we have right now at the arena is our tanks have a tendency to overflow on high volume events. So, what's our solution? We talked about we could put an additional tank there to help with the overflow and that's just another tank to pump out. Um, but longterm probably sewer is our best option. Um, if we wanted to build something towards the back of the property, sept a residential type septic tank may be a good option for a barn or a f a smaller facility so that we're not running line all the way to the back. But to serve the the buildings closest to the property, sewer would be our best long-term option. But that depends on what the pricing that we and negotiation that we can do with Odinbull and see if we can get some additional houses that would tap in on that to reduce our cost and serve that road. So ne next step talking to the city got

a grasp of it and Dan put us on a a notice to possibly move it up a little bit and and needing it done sooner better than later uh in that he wants to do some work on Blair Farm Road and there's you know we get criticized a lot why didn't y'all u put this pipeline in before you pave the road. So, that's kind of what we're going to be looking at is we need to move this forward enough to to try to have this done prior to Dan paving the road out there because we don't want to dig up the road places and have an issue there. How much rideway do we have? Do we have a a 60 foot rideway? No, we have 60 foot at least through there. Is there rock in there? Do you know? Possibly.

Possibly. So there's some places out there where you could dig as deep as you want to, not hit enough. But then there's other places you can have surface rock. So the rock claws in that contract we have there's some lime rock in there. Okay. But if if we do this, we own that line. What? If we run that sewer line, it's our line. We own it. We have right of ownership, right? Yeah. It belongs It belong to Okay. sewer line to them goes to their sewer. But then then they can I'm asking Yeah, it's long to them and then them other houses down there, I have to pay them a tap fee to tap on to it. But I was just hoping we can work something out where we got that tap fee reimbured.

I don't remember doing it with sewer, but with water we we own the line after we get done with it. I just trying to figure out how we get reimbured. You don't? If we run it and then now all of a sudden they they get the service. Yeah, they going to get the service. going to get that

in our meetings. U in our meetings with Odin as we move forward, we'll find out also what a monthly sewer fee would be. I mean, right now we're paying whenever we need to pump the tanks out, we call a a service company out there to do it. But, uh it was pointed out through the uh the gentleman from the health department that those tanks that have been out there for a long time are are they were temporary to begin with. So, we're going to be moving forward to get those uh that that gives us an incentive to not just put another temporary tank. We want to we want to do something. So, we'll we'll be looking at that part of it as a factor.

Those tanks are not baffled and that kind of stuff is reason. They're they're not I'm not 100% sure, but they're not considered a treatment tank. It's just a holding tank. It is holding tank. They're 6,000 gallons each.

That's all I have. Any questions? Any questions for Ashley on any of that? Thank you for working us through this and we'll we'll we'll try to do our part. Move on. Okay. Thank you. Okay. And I believe, let's see, they've got what is this one? That's with Sean. He's with Okay, that's right. That he's with Sean. So, both of those together.

All right, Sean, let's move you up first. And we've got uh uh representative here to explain the safety software program that we're talking about doing also. and Sean is our county safety officer and uh doing a fantastic job. We appreciate you stepping into that role as uh as the county has grown and there are more uh mayor y'all y'all welcome to stay. We give out the checks right at the end of the meeting. We don't we don't we do not put those we don't put those in the mail now. Just let you know.

Thank y'all for being here. Uh but Sean Sean took over our safety u officer program and and it's very important through our insurance. Uh it's it's grown as we've grown and so uh it's good to have a a semi-professional leaning towards being a professional person in that particular position. So I set you up for just whichever direction you

I appreciate that. So, u if if you don't mind, I'm just going to kind of give you a little background on kind of how we got here and then we can we can uh watch the presentation and then maybe I can kind of give some some highlights of it at the end. Um so, as I'm sure you all know, so where we got we got to this is not just being the county safety coordinator, but uh my previous experience in law enforcement, I was certified in crime prevention through environmental design. I don't know if anybody's heard of that, but essentially what that is is it's a certification to be able to go out to properties and do kind of a safety assessment, do anywhere from physical sites to look doing plan review and design review and determine ways that you can minimize the the risk of criminal activity and just improve the safety through lighting, landscaping, um, and different different systems within the building. So, that's kind of where it came from. Um, and so I I looked at um our evacuation plans and our emergency plans for our county buildings. And that's that's where we kind of I kind of went through and identified some things that if if if it's okay with uh with the commission. I won't go into the detail of those findings uh just because I don't want to compromise any safety of county employees or county buildings, but there were some things that, you know, you can always do better and there's some things that we found that um that you know we'd like to take a look at and I'm happy to share that offline. um with all of you if you haven't seen it. But specifically after I did that, I got a call from um this company E3, Emergent 3, and didn't know who they were and I begrudgingly took the call. Uh and I said, "Okay, you got 15 minutes of my time." And I I wasn't going to pay much attention to it. And they're they're essentially a company that that has a safety program that's kind of it really seems like it's the only one out there. um and they they kind of focused on schools, but it's a it's a program that allows you to kind of automate things that um things like notification when employees are evacuation sites. Um it allows you to

literally on every computer in each covered building, you can bring up step-by-step instructions at literally a click of a mouse that this is what the employee needs to do. All they got to do is click the situation and it pops up. So, so that they understand real time what they need to do. You can also do things like put maps and schematics of your buildings in it and put things like the location of fire fire um fire extinguishers and AEDs and maps that show evacuation routes and things like that. So, I thought it was a good comprehensive program and my law enforcement side of me, there was a part of it that I looked at and I thought tactically from a law enforcement standpoint, should there be an incident in one of our buildings, hopefully that never happens, but you always want to plan for the worst and hope for the best. And so, if it did, I think there's there's some components there that would help. So, with that, if we're going want to do the presentation and then um then I can highlight and answer any questions you might have. Yeah, I've been talking to him. Do that again.

Good.

Awesome. Thanks everybody for letting me in. Are we ready to get started? Yes. Yes. Go ahead.

Great. Well, again, thank you all for letting me spend a few minutes to come in here. I've had the privilege of working with Sean up to this point. So, again, thanks for letting me have a few minutes. I'll try to keep this brief. Um, if anybody does have questions as I go through this, you know, please feel free to interrupt me, but just a little introduction about me and the company. So, my name is Carson. I'm one of our directors here at E3. I'm actually fairly new to the company here about six months. I've got a deep background in local government technology. So I've been in this sector years and my previous company was more on the citizen side as E3 has been around about four years. They've got about 3,000 clients that use our service today. hospitals, local starting my screen here, a brief little intro and jump into the actual product. should be coming across with that.

Yes. Yes.

Okay. Perfect. So before we jump into actually the demo, I like this high level cover of what we today. So E3 essentially what we are the best way to explain it, we're kind of the clue to all your internal safety processes. So we can come in and offer instant alerts. We can customize those perite and then we also build out interactive smart maps. Mapping of your various sites and we also have live staff accountability. So we keep track of your staff as these events are unfolding. It's very easy for staff to check in, let us know where they're at, and then as first responders or dispatch folks, they're able to really easily see staff members to account for them as these events are unfolding. And then we have a a seamless first responder integration. So, we can work right with your police, fire, dispatch to receive building data automatically as well. And then one thing I really like to mention um a lot of times when you look at software they they price everyone prices a little bit differently but a lot of times see price per device or per user. We come to an organization we want to offer unlimited users. So whether you all grow or add for users down the line, that's not going to impact your cost. We come in and build this out for all your sites, all your employees devices on your desktops as well as there. Again, just a little bit about us and what I'll be covering as far as the demo today. My screen should be switching now or it'll say E3. Please select the group. That's not true to smaller appe. But this is our application. So one thing I'll mention up front go a little bit deeper as far as how we get this application account and integrate directly with like your

email system. You can also offer like a single sign on option it make it really and then um once the application is on your county devices it's going to constantly be running in the background. So it's not something they have to have open constantly. There is an alert initiated in E3. It's going to open up and bring back and if it's on their cell phones, which we do encourage staff members to put on their cell phones as well. It will act similar as like an Amber alert where it's bypass. And then what you all are seeing on this left hand side over here, this is more like a administrative view. So for example, this would potentially say like St. Clair County here down into each of your sites. If we are working with multiple entities within your county as well, you'll see I've got like hospital school district here that all dashboard if those external folks like your dispatch 911 center and And if there's any active alerts going on on any of those sites, those are going to pop up here at the top. Now, we'll jump into one of these so I can kind of show you firsthand what they would look like for like a typical user. So, we'll come into my hide park example. This is like a courthouse and an annex that I've built out. This page here is where your employees would go to initiate an alert. And again, they can do this whether it's from their cell phone or from their desktop. it's going to function and look exactly the same. And then these are what we call our alert types. These all these will all be customized to the county as well as to each site. So if there's certain things we're worried about different sites for just a brief example, I've got like an agency in Texas. They've got an Exxon next door to one of their locations and so they're worried about like chemical spills for example. However, that's not

relevant in any of their other. So we can customize these for your site and then we can even have customized images, verbages, make sure it lines up. And then each one of these alerts has your plans tied in. So whether we call these action plans or your EOPS, we can bring those right in here and digitalize those. And I'll open up like my active shooter one for example. Here's an example. We're supposed to be doing the event of an active shooter. I just have some brief information in here, but we can have like URLs. We can also have like drop down. So if you have like multi-story buildings, you know, first, second, third floor, and then I'll show you all this here in a minute. We'll initiate an alert. But one thing that our agencies really like is we will bring that plan right to the forefront of their device. We find that a lot of times employees forget what they're supposed to be doing or maybe so that device types. So again, you'll see how this would work. We'll go ahead and set offert situation. So whether I'm on my cell phone or my desktop, I would just go ahead and click here. And from here, it's as simple as beginning. Now, before I do that, I'll kind of talk through what we're seeing on this screen. The first thing you'll see is I can toggle between internal and external for simplicity purposes. And this is all custom, but most of my organizations when we do an internal alert that keeps it to everybody within that building. Um, external loop alert is typically going to loop in anybody from like an external level, whether that's local, sheriff's office, first responders, anybody we want to loop in externally. That's all again customized to you all. We can set up however appropriate there. And then we can also make the alert silent. This is probably a great example where we would want to make it silent because it could potentially escalate the situation if they hear that alert.

However, I want you all to experience this. So, I'll check that option there. And then we can also run any drills through the system. So, whether that's Sean or whomever wants to run drills through the system, you'll be able to run your drills through this, let everybody experience it. And then we're going to collect a lot of data with these alerts and drills. So, it's going to track like location, this was at, duration of the event, how fast people checked in, where they checked in, and you can create reports postevent. You can use those whether those are tables or meetings like this as well as like training and so forth. But I'm going to go ahead and push the alert out. And just you're all aware, you should hear it come through the screen. What that would sound like Okay, that come through.

Yes. Yes.

We're all awake before we are now. So, so that's what be going off on every device. So whether that's on the desktop or that's what they're going to be experiencing. Now, those are customized. those alert tones. That's by far my most annoying and obnoxious one. I would say like I've got one that comes through. So, so my organization like if you hear this, this is what it needs. So, we can customize those type. And then while that's going off, E3 is going to be popping up on everybody's screen and it's going to start asking them two questions. The first question are with the where are you question every employee can have up to five favorite locations you'll see I've just got a few examples in here if you have employees that are mobile quite a bit we can have offsite options there's rally points they meet at that location in there if they're not in any of those locations for whatever reason they can go to the map and select where they're at. We're going to cover the map as well, but for this example, I'll go ahead and say my clerk's office. And then the second question it's asking every employee is, are they okay? So, they can mark themselves as safe or unsafe. I'm going to go ahead and say I'm unsafe here. And then once those two questions have been answered, it's going to screen. So, this is what we call like our internal chat screen or internal communication scheme screen where they can share any additional information they want on this event. And then this is typically the screen that we also bring like our 911 center. So instead of them getting the two questions and the alert, they would just get routed right to this screen as well as we can have this screen to monitor the situation. And then again, this is where we can share anything else we want of this event. So if I'm able to, I can come in here and say, you know, like this is what's going on.

We can also upload pictures into the screen if that's helpful. And then if I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing, like I mentioned earlier, click on this icon here and this will open up and tell me, okay, this is what I'm supposed to. Now, keep in mind, you know, everything I'm showing you all today, this is more like an administrative or like a really access view. Keep in mind, we can also do different user restrictions for different employees across your as well. But the next thing I'm going to go into is the map. The map is Really what makes E3 unique is we'll come out and build these maps for each one of your sites. So we'll take your floor plans, lay those over into our maps. We have a team of of quite a few folks that actually build these maps. That's their primary goal is just building out these maps for our customers. So a few things to mention before I zoom in on the interior side. From an exterior level, if there's anything on your sites, we can build those out. You'll see I've got some parking in my example. Like I have an agency right now in Utah. They have like a big rec center that spans across like two miles. So we're putting like pool locations for they've got like bunch of different like fields, soccer fields, football field. We can do that. And then interior wise, I'll zoom in a little bit here. Interior wise, we can also get really detailed. One thing we talked about, we can add locations in your map. So if you have any of your sites, those can be put on the map. You have fire cool downs. You even want to see like evacuation routes here. up here at the top. So you'll see that office is lining up. So earlier when

it's asking those questions of where am I whether I'm safe or unsafe, it's data on the map. Not the only check we'reing about and a half second check with those two questions. So the data is reflecting really quickly as these events are unfolding. And then a few other functionalities with the map that I'll go through. So at my annual basement and then this is also where you can get really deep on the staff accountability side and know where people are at as these events are happening. So for example, I need to know who's in the office, I can click into these individual rooms, I can hit view all and it'll show me any employee that's in that room. If I want to see every employee, so if I want to say, hey, show me everybody within the corehouse here, I can click this blue icon on the right hand side. Again, keep in mind just demo data, but the lefth hand side is going to show you anybody that's not checked in yet. So you can also have accountability for uh your employees that have not checked into the situation. And then on the right hand side, it's going to show all the employ that have checked in. It'll show you where they're at. Um, a few other things I'll just go through quickly here. Um, but we can also set it up where your staff members be able to um have other staff members associated to them. So, we all have like department heads that are important to them and we want to be able to have department heads other staff. We can set up those type of restrictions as well. So, for example, let's say I've actually moved to parking over here. I can go ahead and move my location. I can mark myself as safe. And again, at

this point, I'd probably be doing this with my cell phone, but I'm going to have all that device. I can still mark the clerk's office as dangerous. And then, let's say, for example, I'm actually out and a couple of my employees are with me out here. I can actually come in and add them. So, I can say, you know, hey, and parking as well. So that's just a few other functionalities of the map. Uh another thing to mention on that note, so let's say for example, you know, Gabe actually was not out at North Park and I'm not sure what's going on with him. I can come back to my chat screen here and I can add that employee and I can say okay. This will send him another notification. If he's still not getting back to me, I can over his name. We can bring in employee cell phone numbers if we want to have a second employee ID or employee photos. And we can also say back to the map. Just the last functionality I'll cover on here and then we'll move on to the next section within the map. This is more on the first responder side, but we typically find that these events are unfolding. We find that first responders are usually radioing to someone on the outside or talking with dispatch. And so as those first responders are clearing this building out, whether they're talking with dispatch or someone on the outside, that person will be able to come in here and start clearing those rooms as those first responders are making their way. And again, just gives everybody awareness, letting them know what's going on as unfolding. And then I'll show this here in a minute, but this is going to track all this. So it's going to show time stamps on this and you can even report after this post.

Okay, so just the last couple things as we start to wrap up here. Um, this is more administrative only screen, but this is where you can come in and escalate an alert out. So had I started it internally, I could external alert. I can also change the alert on this page. So whether we're doing like a secondary sweep or maybe the situation's escalated and I different alert type now change that on this screen you can also employ and then we also can do text email. We are able to send an additional web text. These can also be used or something like that. But I'm going to go ahead and end this alert out. Just the last thing I'll cover just briefly, but I'll come over to my alert history here. This is where you can make sort of reports. It's still processing that one we went through. earlier. It's going to show which site this was at, who initiated, who ended it, duration of that event. It'll show all your users. Those see if anybody where they checked in, how fast they checked in. And then this will also have a full log. It'll show us any information there. And if there's any sort of report that needs to be generated, you can generate that bottom there. everything I was hoping to cover with all. What questions do you guys have for me? Happy to go through any questions. Happy to cover anything as well.

I know. Uh there would pop probably be some questions generated as uh individual commissioners might have something to come up like uh this would answer a lot of of a lot of the question we've already had about uh some of our remote sites such as something happened at the arena. We have a situation road department we might want to be able to monitor a little more closely. Uh, looks like this would plug them in uh to where they would I mean up here we had a little button up here. We could mash it and all the policemen in the world show up here at the desk to protect us. Looks like this does that for everybody. Is that is that what I'm hearing here?

It does. And and um Carson, if you could cover kind of um not necessarily just the pricing, but how you know the coverage as far as buildings because the coverage is per building. So you can cover as many buildings as you want. Carson, can you speak to that a little bit? Yeah. As far as how we build out the pricing structure there, Sean, per building. Yes.

Yeah. So, so the way we build it out, what I've talked with Sean is we would look at coming in and covering every employee and then we build it out per site. So, any site that you want covered, we would cover. The only time there's going to be additional cost is need to add additional sites. So if it's any you guys are like hey now that we're implemented you know we also just add an additional site uh to give you an idea additional cost for sites charge 500 per field on an annual basis and then just be a small set of features in there. the way we stand today, we're hoping to come in at every site. So, yes, like your your people, we can put them into the service as well as, you know, like I have an example. I have an assessor's office that actually uses this in South Dakota. They're actually using it out on property visits for their a little bit different manner, but we find some folks will use this north, some folks use west, but we try to system for questions from the commissioners. Now we will uh we'll be letting you get as familiar with it as possible and then any questions we have that way you can answer those directly instead of us okay picking him off one at a time but u we've got as here I did hear some some u look like some sort of interaction with possibly 911 central dispatch for for

that is an option right Carson that's not something you have to do but it is an option um talked to a little about there. There may be some tweaks we have to to do with that. Um, and I think I mentioned Carson when we talked before that um, we have text to 911 capability here. So, I don't know if we could utilize that as opposed to putting the program on a dispatch computer. Is there a way to tie that in?

Good question. So, so we are, this is kind of developed since even you and Sean last talked, but we we are coming out with this summer an integration to PAP. So, we will be able to initiate a phone call in 911 the way it stands today for for your dispatch to be booked in just the application on their desktop. So that's however here in the near future we are call I don't know how to text to 911 I can follow up on that but I am really confident right now

one thing I'll mention I think one of the commissioners mentioned you all have some panic but even better on site. So like we are also able to integate with alert systems we will have equipment and wearables here in the near future too. So that's something we'll have. So just something to keep in mind new features, equipment, stuff like that service. So I've got a question of that's I'm looking at this contract. It says it's $5,000 a year. What does that what does that get us

actually? Carson, can you can you explain the question is I don't if you heard it the u the 5000 what that covers and how many buildings.

Yeah. Yeah. Great question. So So the covers everything I've shown today. We don't have like different packages. One thing we'd like to do is just give an all inclusive system. So it includes everything from those custom order types to bring those emergency operating procedures to building out maps per site text everything I'm showing you as far as so that's your annual fee and then the first year we do charge the one time set up fee to get a lot of like building out those maps getting your users in here however once you're set up we don't don't charge you for ongoing support we offer unlimited We're all located. So anyways, especially at our county level, we all we all know. So like I always tell people that support that's what we're here for. One of our goals is also to train your So they don't have user access right up all that stuff. So that's at a very high level what's included with the 5,000 and then as far as the number of sites I have had at least six sites with this. So again any additional site on top of that00 courthouse and six sides obviously and that's that we're locked in at three years on this contract. Well, it says there's there's escape laws on here.

After three years, we give a 60 days notice either party. Yep. Is that the right person? So, it's a three-year contract. I know we were talking about if if they wanted to do a shorter contract. Is that an option? I I I'm just saying that's as it stands on this contract. We're obligated three years. Right. This would be a three-year contract that you what what you sent me the quote. Correct, Carson? Yeah. The initial quote I did send out is a threeear term. However, I will pre We're flexible with that. The big reason we do that is to lock the rates. We haven't flexibility there.

Okay. Okay. And as our as our safety person, a lot of your communications and a lot of your interaction is is with our insurance carrier and our attorney to make about our uh if this improves our legal situation for protecting our employees and and it looks like it definitely does that. Uh I'm I'm going to compare it to our little button up here that we mash. You know, only this one just expands that option pretty much to all the employees, 300 and something of them in the county, right? depending on where they are. Uh but the interaction with the 911 and the central dispatch situation, whatever that's worked out there, you may may have to explain that to some of us a little closer to be sure we know.

Yeah. So that's what we just have to make sure that whatever we do, we do not want another app or another page or another login for this. So we have to integrate with whatever we're using.

Okay. Um, and then so it's not uncommon. We have like ADT and then there's fire alarm systems and stuff. Those come in as a 911 call. So the only thing that that would be different is if the employees have their cell phones and they want to use their cell phone as their device to check in and out or whatever. You guys have to see what it looks like. I don't know that we're going to put anything additional that's linked to the outside world on our gas system or on a computer in that dispatch room because that remember we're dealing with NCIC. So,

okay. And I'd like for us to look uh since we deal with our insurance people closely. But is this a positive to them, negative or neutral situation them? I mean, I think they're going to say this is a positive step for us to make as we as we grow and get more sophisticated. uh so find out from them they'll probably know what this is or at least the the concept and then of course our IT what does that do about interacting things with that so if Sean you may have already been talking to it about it that 70 grand sheriff that's going to do something similar to this that mapping mapping each building each hallway

that was a mapping thing though that didn't do an alert that I know of. No, it didn't. I just think looks like you could marry those. That's what I'm saying. Should be able to I think do we have any more questions for Carson? Because if not, maybe we can let him go and I just have a couple things if I can wrap up then. Thank you, Carson. We appreciate I'll be in touch with you soon. Appreciate your time and have a good rest of your afternoon. Thank you. Thank you. Anyway, so it may integrate the two. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's really the big thing just what I want to kind of highlight from this is is the fact that you're h what you have is a system that covers the entire county consistently and each site. Well, it's different. You're going to have different evacuation sites and there's different, you know, nuances. This totally replaces the little uh drawing we tape on the wall with the steps exit here in case of fire. Well, and that's that's one of the things that, you know, that's important is so those kinds of things, those paper copies,

I mean, you know, somebody's got to update them and print them out. And this is something where it's kind of you go into one what one time at one point and you can do you can cover any site that you need to to modify it. Um, and and also with the employee notifications, um, you know, I back in my law enforcement career, I was involved in a lot of situations where we had to evacuate buildings for various reasons. And one thing I can tell you when you evacuate a building, I'm sure you probably already know, is you've got some people that will go to the evacuation site, some people that will go to the wrong evacuation site, some people that will hop in their car and go somewhere else, home or McDonald's or wherever. So, it's just really critical to have a way to account for those people because you need to know, are they still in the building or, you know, are they halfway to Georgia by now? You don't know. So, I think that's a real critical piece of it. Um, and I think that also helps the administrators to be able to keep track of their their staff and and and I and you saw the the ability to kind of click off rooms that you've cleared. I mean that that could help in a tactical situation from law enforcement, but also if you ever had any kind of a catastrophe that affected the building. Um that's also something you need to be able to to real time have a situational awareness and a co common operating map so that incident command can look at that and say, "Okay, this is what we've cleared. This is what we need to do." So it's all in kind of an all-inclusive um system. And the other thing too to mention that to me that I really loved about it was the ability to pull up and this is the county determines what information that the employees going to get but they're getting I'm a big fan of quick bullet points. I don't want to give them a 10-page EOP but just a you know a couple of bullet points if this is what you do because if something happens the stress of the moment people you know people forget and start you know panicking and this is just you click a couple buttons and now all I got to do is read off the screen. Uh, that's one of the things and what I have here. I'll I'll pass these out for you if it's okay. I' I've put together a couple of um some of the the

findings that that I had and how this system will tie into those findings. Um, this is not all of the all of the aspects of the um safety assessment. Uh, there are more, but this is the ones that I think particularly pertain to and how you know E3 would be a benefit um to the county. So, feel it's okay with with y'all pass this out and have these and take a look. And then there's also a current quote because that quote actually fired

a second getting a lot more complicated than it was back in our day. So, what make you sell the same thing? We say we don't have to have all monitors locate and arrest the bad guys. It's all good. All right. Okay. We got that. Did you have any questions for me? I mean, I think he answered the system pretty well. But you want to have any questions? I understand for 5,000 we get six buildings of our choice. Yes. And I think that's increased because when I talked to him, I thought it was three. So, I'm was surprised at that. I think there did he say six?

I think so. And and if we have other buildings, what do you say? 500. 500. So they had two. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz we got like seven, but depends on what what all you count.

Well, the thing to remember too is it's unlimited users at the site. So they can have it on their cell phones, on their their, you know, their desktops. And that's that's the part of it to me that was attractive because a lot of companies and like I said, I just want to kind of also mention that I did after I talked to them did a lot of research of, you know, what else is out there. I can't find anybody that are doing what they're doing. Um, I can find people that are doing active shooter training. I can find people that do, you know, evacuation scenarios and that kind of thing, but this allows you to cover every emergency. And one of the things that I really liked about it is it gives you the ability to consider an I rate customer which is probably the most common thing that you're you know you're going to deal with and make notifications to other people within the office without you know escalating the situation by you know saying hey I got a I got somebody over here I need you you know so that's another mechanism that I think is really important of the program. Okay. Appreciate the uh the presentation. We'll check out the the term with interoperability with 911 and central

and the sheriff's department. What what it do there? Yeah. And it looks like it looks like it had to be a positive thing for our security. Seems like it would do what's connection with it. What's it going to do to that? That give them another chance. We had just another chance to hack our system. look at stuff we don't want them looking at. That's always always a possibility and always a concern.

The Russians already have all the things they need on our buildings. I tell you, I guarantee that. So, I did want to ask one question about that program. Do do the prompts come up automatically on your screen or do you have to remember to open the app and like whenever you get the notification? So, the way you have you have to open it. The way I understand it is on your like if you have your desktop open. The way he described it to me was there's like a little tab at the top that just kind of lives up there like you know where you expand your screen and you know and minimize your screen. You click on that and then it pops up with whatever the issue is. So it's about two or three clicks to get to you know the information that's telling you hey this is what you need to do or to notify other staff.

So and if you get an alert then that pops up automatically. Right. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Okay, thanks again. Any more questions from commissioners? Okay. Uh Lyn, before we before we bring you up here, we have a we have a visitor here. I'm going to see if he wants to address the commission in any any way. U as long as you don't have a presentation uh to show us. David, we But if you do, I'd like for it to be, you know, with some cartoons on it and all that. No presentation. David Clean Scales is here. Did you want to talk?

Well, no. Well, I think Dan answered with what he said answered the questions I had right now, which is there's not a another document to look at on the subdivision bill. Not yet, but there will be soon. There will be What do you think? Are you talking about two days or two months or I would think in the next couple days? Okay. Is there a way for us to see that ahead of time? And that's that's what we were talking about. I think the idea is the commission needs to review it before we give it out to anybody else. Yes, sir. So that would be the idea is that we would circulate it for the commissioners to review first and then um once they authorize us to I guess distribute some way

working within the law anything we do ends up being a public document. So give me a call or Ricky a call. We'll share ours with you. But to put it out there for just everybody, we'd be answering questions for a while till we actually answer some of them already. And that's enough time before we have this. I forget how you refer to the public meeting. A couple more weeks.

I think I think we're probably talking a couple of weeks before we can have a public meeting to to get back together the group similar to what we had before. I know before we actually had uh mostly developers and we'd like to have a meeting that attracts developers and land owners because we hadn't answered the other part of that question u on as far as land use regulations are concerned. Uh so we're going to have a little more discussion on that. What does this do to you and and your ownership of your property? Right.

And that's that's that's kind of the biggest question we've got. What does this do? Um We got some work to do, but I think within a couple weeks, we should have something together to get more people together, get it out there publicly on our on our website, those kind of things. All right. How will that how will I see that? How will I know when it's out available? Uh, how can we flag? Well, David was wanting to do a story, put in the paper. Yes. And uh yeah, we could put a link out there that be tied into that.

I don't know if it be on your website. I'll post it on my Facebook page whenever something comes out and and I think you're that'll get the word out to the people I know. U but we'll also put it on our website clairco.com. U it's like you you have to go on there to find it. So how many times you need to check it between now and the time we put it on there? But as soon as I get some information on it, I'll I'll be posting it on my Facebook page and help

well just just a uh follow the website up. If you if you register on the website uh and and and set up to be notified when we post when we post news, we usually let that notify the public who set up for that. They'll get a little text or an email saying there's a new news post. At some point in time, we'll probably have a a link kind of like follow me following such and such. I think we'll finally get to that point in the future. If you're checked in is following this things will come up not just be following that that person. So whatever

website now there's documents you can see and I thought that's what I was going to see when I clicked on it but it was just a short letter. Yeah documents on it yet. Our first work session in April is the nth and those are probability we'll know by then. Yeah I would think so. Yeah. Yeah. The nth. Is it the ninth? I think. Wait a minute. Here. Let's see. Thursday. There's the second. Tuesday is the 14th commission meeting. The nth. Yes. We'll know something by then. Then we could probably at some point after forward after that have a public hear meeting on August.

Yeah, that's a regular work session. We're talking about doing a special work session just to address this issue. So, we could actually do it the week before that even. Yeah, I'm just saying we should know by then. Moving along faster now than it has in week by week than it has in a year. That's good. Five years. And like Dan said earlier, there just now we're just now getting people interested in talking about it. We've not had many. We've had more in the last month or two than what we had in five years. Really?

Yeah. True. Well, and I've heard the term, you know, well, depends on which side of the it's the old the old thing about whose ox is getting uh both sides are going to say, well, they're just kicking it down the road. Uh worst thing we do is uh pick it up and do it right. Well, like you said at the last meeting, this affects everybody. Yeah, it affects everybody. So, definitely not kicking it down the road. And we're getting the attention now that we probably should have figured out a better way to attract that attention five years ago. But that was, you know, we were dealing with directly with land with realtors,

realtors, few couple of developers, but as like a committee. Now then that that committee statements are out there, it it it attracts all realtors and all developers. And then everybody owns these property. So we're going to get there. You don't end up with a better road if you buy a house in a subdivision in unincorporated area. We I think we got that farm figured out. Uh where where the restrictions are from there. We're still kicking that around. We we even had a little discussion today. What happens sewer system? You can build your own sewer system. You don't have to have a safety tank. So you build on little bitty lots and the U sprinkler stop up on that system. Whose job is to fix it? I can tell you who's going to be yelled at for not fixing it if we don't have a road. That's going to be us. You know, y'all got to get out here and fix this. Y'all caused it. Well, we got to have some rules in there somewhere. Maybe HOA. If you going to have an HOA, then you got to fix the sprinklers or nozzles or whatever it is. Otherwise, well, it's it's going to have to fall on somebody other than all the citizens to fix somebody's problem. They got shoddy work.

Just like the roads. You got shoddy road, it's not everybody else's place to fix it. And we used to use the old legal term, what's the something? Let the buyer beware. What's that Latin thing? Caveattor. Caveat mtor. Yeah, I knew I had a lawyer that knew that.

But we can't say that anymore. Uh the even before that, you know, the saying you had before, caveat emptor, don't you? Let them eat cake. We we've gone from let them eat cake to caveat emptor. And now we're we're now know you can see it on our computer. So So uh we're we're kind of at that point. So chairman, do we want on the meeting Tuesday to set a date for that special code work session?

We if we're going to do it within the next five days, we'll need to say that and during our report section, we'll see if we're ready by then. We'll see if we've got enough information from everybody Tuesday. This is Thursday, Friday, and Monday work days. And if we're ready Tuesday, we make an announce we'd like to have a special call meeting or work session within five days to do it. And if we don't know, I feel sure by the 9th we will. Yeah. That gives us then to the next one and the ninth is already uh advertised. That's right. So we'll be able to announce it at that meeting for whoever needs to know and then we'll in today's world under the Alabama law and it's a good law we are required to have public notice of a public meeting five days

actually seven days.

Seven days seven days before we have the public meeting and then you get into the bad part of it. What is a public meeting? anytime any three of us get together. So, we can't get together at lunch or well, you can do some things casually. You go to conferences and things, but you can't you can't discuss business particularly. It's just it's in the law. Whatever we do when we discuss business as a body that can make a decision, it's public. So, we have to advertise that seven days in advance. So that that's one reason we can't just say we're going to have it on this date. We're going to have it on the date seven days after we all get together and say we're ready. Got to wait a week.

All right. I laid that out. Uh confusing enough. Yeah. Ashley, did you understand that? I did. Oh, man. And I didn't go far enough. I make it a little more confusing. Road drive.

That's right. Okay. Moving on. You you good, David? Okay, moving on. Now, Len Crow, uh Len Crow's assistant proc uh property manager. He's gonna give us update on projects and properties and uh let us know what's a hat. Well, sir on uh on the uh news agent building that we're trying to get ready for Aaliyah to have the uh hopefully put the driver's license in. We haven't heard anything back from them and Tina reached out to them to get them to maybe come out and walk through the building again. So, we're kind of on hold till we get some further instructions. What do we have so far from them leg legit legally? What kind of document do we have?

Uh we've got a letter stating that they would accept the building's got to do his part on land part. It has got to do their part. Yeah. It is with their Is that what the hood up is or what? And Liam's talking about putting carpet in there. The square just like this. So if one gets messed up, he'll have extra carpet to replace. So what's the answer? So what you need it to get in there and finish? Well, we need to get we need to get an idea if they've already ordered the circuit because the the the the internet folks told us it'd be at least 180 days before they can get the circuit in there.

So if they haven't ordered it, you know, they're just essentially the cans being kicked down the road. So I mean, they talk to to find that out, I guess. Darita, is that her name? Yeah. Her it call her again. I mean, that's that's the state. The states state's made the determination that they're gonna they're going to bring internet in. All we got to do is just wire it. How long will that take after that's a couple of days for us?

It take then that it will take a couple days lay that carpet out. Yeah, we got really all we have is uh you know if we have to run maybe some more pando on the walls and take some off touch up and we got to get the old flooring up if that's the route we're going to take. If I had a definite on carpet or yes we're not using that u new phone. Don't know why it works. Don't tell us that. That's your wife call it. Could be. But but yeah, we know how you're hand peck if you need to answer that. Don't pay us anything.

She wouldn't take me to the beach, so I'm glad. But I mean to follow up on what we had saying, uh that building, if if y'all haven't been in it, is is essentially a block building. Uh so there is going to be pandit on the walls for for our cases to to run the wire and try to hide it as best as we can professionally. And there will be exposed boxes on the outside. I mean, you know, this it's just really all we can do unless we're going to get somebody in there to actually channel this uh some channels in there to reset reset all this stuff, which would add cost.

Yeah, we're we're down to our inside part is just basically down to touchup. what we have to take out and touch up if we do don't big thing there is the carpet and you're talking about carpet that matches some carpet already over there in case we need that's what I would think is possibly get what's in the courthouse does it has new flooring so if you have been through so why are we putting carpet down well at first I'm that's question I asked why are we putting carpet down new flooring well the transition into a couple of rooms is uneven and we had to widen the casings widen the casings we got holes basically on each side of the door

and and it sound uh uh taking up the sound inside a building that had a hard floors hard floors hard probably been a pretty good echo in there. So I uh I'm no more than the carpeting will cost for that building and I'm good with the color of the court that's in the courthouse. So we got extra purpose. I like the idea it would be consistent with the courthouse and the fact that you can take tiles up if something gets somebody makes a mess or spills something or whatever we can just go in there and just take So I mean if we're trying to accommodate Aaliyah we need to wait on them. If not if we get the go ahead from the commission to take the flooring up that's in there that'll get us another step closer. Will

you need to take that flooring up? Yes, sir. It'll put carpet down. Yes, sir. They'll have to come up and uh and we'll need to get the carpet ordered because the actual putting the carpet down won't take, you know, a couple days. They could do that. Yeah. But we don't know how long it's going to take to get the carpet in. I guess I don't we'd have to take that that Why would we need to take I'm just asking. Well, it's uh it's basically like the snap together type that we can get out and we can glue that directly to the concrete because that stuff moves

that makes sense. And on that movable uh blank not to move around leave a little I would think our probably for the best job would be to get that out and float the floor if we needed to whoever does it leveling it and all that. Yeah. So the carpet's like 12,000. No, the uh the carpet tiles were I want to say like7500 and it was like 3500 to $4,000 difference between the roll out carpet and the tiles. So I would think I would think tiles.

So we don't have it in the budget to do that particular project. We would need a budget amendment to red to add on to the getting the the uh new ages building ready for a $7,650. We ready to use it to approve that? I I would be I would be and I'm okay with that. How would you take those up? Just just double this. Yes, we we can get it up. And like I said, if we get the go ahead, we can go ahead and get that out. I got you. Yeah. And that way if and if we get the go ahead, we'll get somebody to order our carpet and have it available so that once we get to that point, you know,

and it didn't look like I mean, I know it sounds like, okay, it's it's new vinyl plank because it was the builder's remodeled, but it's not expensive vinyl plank. You go in there and look at all this stuff. It's a pretty inexpensive. It's probably the cheapest you can get on sale at at a big box store. Yes. So, that being said, if uh if y'all approve it when uh Tuesday, we'll just go ahead and take that out and be to that point. And then we'll go and order our other question. How much do you want? I mean, Dan's going to end up with a dirt a dirt yard out there when he starts working. You want that carpet exposed to that? Are you ready to put carpet plastic over everything?

We No, we would wait till uh well, like I say, a couple days before somebody wanted to move in. We could put carpet in. But we need to be to that point. I gota and we'll have we would have the water on and everything for You ask the the entities to locate the lines out there. Uh yes, I have. There's really I mean only thing that showed up is there's line coming in from the end we're not working on. Uhu. Now there's gas line and stuff in the uh the pathway across that you know we won't be we're not going to be able to fool with that anyways. with the back. That's going to end up being a parking lot. You didn't really find anything in the way back there.

Nothing showed up. I mean, alleyway there's stuff in the other side of the house. There's I think there's a phone line or something on the other side. We're going to have new technology in there. Anyway, okay. Any more questions on that particular issue? Okay. What else you got? Well, we just uh Riley left me some notes about the perk test from the uh shooting range and we're just waiting on him to get back with us on what needs to be done over there. Okay.

And this completed and uh the generator uh for the uh morg

death investigation building. Uh we got a a quote on that. I'm sure probably y'all have that. But the the quote one of the quotes we got or the quote we got is 22,722.98 to install the generator. And then uh Spire Gas uh is going to charge 2750 to put a gas service out there. The gas line runs right down the middle of the alleyway back there and splits off to the buildings on other buildings unless that's been cut off. I noticed there wasn't meters up down most of those buildings. They've either been removed. Yes, sir. The I don't know what the deal is there.

Yes, sir. The the uh the notes I've got on it is the best place that they've came up with to put it is going to be in the front of that building. That's correct. So, they're on the side, the main line. I bet you that line down the alley on that side has been disconnected. And then from that point, I don't think that's on this. I'm not sure. I don't see it anywhere, but there's the cost to run it from the meter to the generator, which would be I'm assuming at the other end of the building. Do we pay the gas company to to do the line to the meter and they're set the meter? We pay them that, don't we? But then we can pay any plumber that's certified to do gas lines. Copper line. Yeah. Right. That would be the only thing. I don't I didn't pick it up if it's on this.

I I think we generator is 22.

That was what the other quote was. Sorry, we had two quotes now, right? THM gave us a quote for 16, wasn't it? 13 or 16. I can't remember exactly but this is considerably more in August the other was done that's my understanding but I may be this one is showing some modifications to the electrical too that's included inside the building yes it's showing know the modifications would be done

to a four-wire system threephase I don't understand the reasoning for that They going to a three-phase system versus single phase. Is that what they're saying? That's what it reads here. Yes. I don't know why we want to go there. Four wires. That's three foot. I don't know. What was that necessary? I don't know. I I need to talk to these people. I guess I They higher than other bid. They are. Yeah. Yeah. They're several the same. And my understanding is, and I think I read it right here, if we agreed to a tankless water heater gas, they'll wave that 2750. That is correct. That's that's a no-brainer. We'll go back.

And on this one, it said that uh that we didn't agree to do that. We didn't agree to And I don't know that we ever talked about that. I can't remember us discussing that. I certainly didn't say that myself. If we can get $2,750 off, I'm putting in a tank of water here. They're going fishing anyway. I don't know how much the system is, but there again, you got to run the gas anyway, and it cost that. At least you'd have a tank tankless. But that's that's pretty much all I've got. Okay. Hold up, L. It's falling ring again. He's supposed to be head supposed to be heading to the beach. You got to go.

Thank you. I'll figure out how it works. That won't happen again. I'm sorry. No, you don't need to worry about that. Thanks, Lyn. Okay, let's see. Something else I had. No, thank you. Something else I had on property that I talked to.

Oh, Lord. Oh, Lyn. Uh I did um I did talk to an architect that would come out and draw the filling in that place in the middle, but at some point in time is going to have to tell me they got to architect the good or we'll choose one. Um I think he's talking about the P City Courthouse. Is that correct? Yeah. Where the where the courthouse is and then the the judicial building

between revenue and the gap in there. uh if u we need to give whoever the architect is a little bit of information. For instance, right now that whole front building is the old courthouse building. The back building, the judicial building is the brick and all that. So, do you want the brick from the old building to join the old courthouse or you want the old courthouse to join the other building? That's going to be an external thing, but it's also going to affect how they build the wall on the outside. So, uh, so go look at it and see. And I did talk to with the sheriff not what, you know, you could have them more space over there for things they might need, but you could also have space over there in that basement area for uh, a pretty good space down there for uh, community corrections straight across from the jail. I mean, they their interaction with the jails a lot

and they just came out of a commercial door right there of community corrections and you know that don't y'all have a lot of people that go in there and say oh you need to go across the street. So they either have to come and get them or they have to walk over there and turn themselves in. So look at it from that standpoint. Uh what are we doing this for? And the other one was the revenue commissioner upstairs. That would pretty well solve his his space and not even affect what we did downstairs with extension or anything. Then extension is another question. It wouldn't be for the for necessarily for the revenue commissioner storage space. It'd be for just general space in that courthouse basement. So we looking at that as we go. But if we could move I don't know how many I'll go in there and look. Y'all y'all y'all help me. I know y'all been in there because I think we built the walls. I don't know how many offices there are in there where community corrections is now. I think there's like five, four go there. It's a hallway and they got

seven in there now and I'm about to have to wire another one. Seven people or seven different offices. Seven offices, not including lobby. And they've got a little closet area that they've got the newest case worker in that they got to wire. Okay. We might could have I don't know how many of that group is actually the ones affiliated with sending people across the street. U I think all of them they're all case workers. Yeah, I think all the but and over time they just kept you know it's a great entity. We're glad to have them but but not necessarily in our basement. there. They went from three offices to seven

and and they if they keep moving, we can't keep having turning that whole bottom floor of the building over to to that entity. So, we got to look for so another way to do this. I don't think we can get any more than maybe six offices in that bottom space because some of their offices are small. Those casework offices are pretty small and I think we could do six of that size in that new space. So y'all look at that and see how we want to do it. Might work. Will it help? Will it not? I don't know. Thank you. Yes, sir.

Okay. And let's see here. And the sheriff is right on time. Of course he is. He always He's always on time. He was set for 2:45. And I'd like to say, Sheriff, you're 2:43. You're I can walk slow. You're doing really good. You're really done by 245. We're trying to get out here by 4:00 today. You have set a standard. I'm not going to hold you up. Standard that I've had a hard time meeting. So, please do not open the presentation until I get out of here by

Ricky. I colored you colored for me. It got out of the line. Thanks, sir. Ricky, put your pencil down. Yep.

So, all I have just one quick thing and then Captain Bernard's here. He had uh one thing that might lead into a second thing very briefly to talk to you about. So, all I have, as you know, we've been working on for quite some time with this FCC order and some of the chaos that that that has caused. And we've talked about this uh at least one occasion before. So after talking to the auditors, we have here for you to review what we feel like is the easiest way to resolve this. And what I'm speaking about is the Alabama DOC inmate state reimbursement. So

let me set the stage for this for those of us that some of them might still be listening to us online. All right. The Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, came down with a ruling that the county cannot keep money off of the phone system in there and the and the little computer system, the FaceTime system and all that that we were using to pay for things related to the operation of the jail. Does that set that up? Yes.

And and that wasn't like $50. It was like 110,000. So, we lost a hundred we lost 100,000 plus on a ruling from the Federal Communications Commission and this is a way of talking to auditors. How can we handle things to replace that? I mean, the things that we were that you were buying out of that is not going away, right? So, we got to figure out a way to replace that and that's where we are.

Absolutely. And this is something that's going to affect jails across country. So, big, small, medium, you name it. So, quite frankly, uh I saw Jenny come in. Jenny works on this on the commission side and Tonyie works on it on the sheriff's office side. So, the two of them working together, uh, which is very, uh, difficult to say the least because when you you're trying to figure out, uh, inmates from all over the state and how to build properly and whose inmate it is and when they're over the certain mark of 30 days. It's a lot of paperwork, but they do a good job at that. They work very well together. Making sure as what you have here that uh I forgot to pass out the crayons. I'll get that next time. But uh

figure out what I had here. You have the documentation of it. Well, that's that's the good thing about it. You just say you're okay with it and I'll worry about the details. But it's uh it is complicated. It's a complicated issue. The simplest way I can explain it to you is we need an inter agency agreement between you and me as we do for municipal inmates. That's what I fig say ain't nothing complicated about it. That's all we got to do. That's all you got to do. Uh it's all I can think of at the moment. You can get $28 a day for state prison. Give you 14 of that 28. Yep. That's it. clearly aligned in there, which will transfer uh you know, we're certainly not out of the woods, but we're a long way to uh being able to buy what we need.

Go after that. I'm a federal inmates. Yeah. Yeah. Same same process. So, if y'all approve this Tuesday, I'll get with Kirk and we'll just take a a municipal contract and just change it around a little bit. Any questions for me? That's all I had. Sound like Ricky took it over. Yeah. Thank you, Rick. I appreciate you agenda. Appreciate you holding off on your lunch for me there. I saw him come in here with three bottles of water there. I hope y'all don't let him drink all three of those and think you're going to get out of here by 4:00 down there. I got me a D,

I think. And I I want to thank the sheriff for uh keeping us all uh updated on what this process is. this uh this this all of a sudden it said uh the FCC is taking $100,000 plus. Yes. And so it got us engaged in that pretty quick because like I said the things that that purchase was not going away. That's right. That's right.

So um this this is what has come out of it is literally a contract with the sheriff on this because we're going to be we're going to be ended up paying for those items as a county government. And if he gets $14 and it only ends up totally totally being 80, we got to come up with the other 20. So the contracts with us to furnish a things and he we get reimbured part of it out of this contract that something like that. Yes, sir. Michelle's waving me off. I know I'm on camera, but I like to live dangerously. Well, no. I'm just thinking I'm trying to calculate like doing

Sure. It's uh that much and I know Jenny will say it is a lot of paperwork. We give him 17 ft. I don't think it is. Yeah. He get 17 for each for every prison. Yeah. I guess what I'm trying to is is doing $14 of the 28 getting him what he needs? Yes. Yeah. 14 $14. Giving him half of it back. Got it. Yeah. So,

we keeping half giving him back just like we did on the 40. We get on this page. We give him almost half 17 hit you probably next next. It'll make us where we were. It won't we won't gain anything, but that we're just trying to hold where we're at. it'll make us even, but only because we were able to negotiate a new uh amendum to the contract before the time ran out. Without that, we wouldn't be halfway there. So, we we've worked on it quite a bit. Yeah. Very well said.

When would you anticipate or when after you get our blessing or what we going to have to do here? Well, the complicated part about it and I would need to sit down with Michelle and Jenny and Tonyie because Jenny will tell you the state sometimes quarterly, sometimes yearly and they are subject to change. So, I think whatever level of comfort Michelle has in proceeding would be fine with us. We'll just have to adjust. So, but I don't think it would take us long to start. From what I'm seeing, the state would like to see the reporting quarterly. Okay. Okay. That cuts out the middleman, the board of adjustments. Otherwise, you have to go through a court process hearing

to be awarded that money through DOC. DOC has to approve it. It goes back to BOA. Then BOA pays it through. So, it's a lot of red tape. If you don't do it in a timely manner, then it there I can't give you a time frame of when the money would be. How often do they reimburse? How often does the money come back? They're working on quarterly now, but Jenny will tell you that uh sometimes you get your paperwork in, you're still waiting. So, it's it's a process. These things to be pretty regular. And uh I've compared it to the reimbursement a hospital gets from Blue Cross Blue Shield compared to retail. We we say this is what we ought to be getting from DOC.

We're not going to get it. We get the negotiated rate that DOC negotiates contract. It's there. Sometimes our documentation and their documentation is not the same documentation. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So, so we we get uh we don't we don't always get the the uh the discount rate. We are the discount. All right. We eat the extra Tuesday. Chairman, we're going to put this on Tuesday or we can move this. I'm ready to move it forward. I'm ready to move it off the plate because he's going to have something else in two weeks. I'm sure the question I'll try. Did you get answers from Nikki on Yes.

Is this Are we writing you a check and you get to put this back in your better law firm? Yes, it's uh I didn't highlight it on every copy, but it is on mine, but it's on about the fourth page at the bottom. And and if you need more, you call me, but that'll be her direct correspondence. Okay. So you can put it in there and spend it like you've been spending

for law enforcement purposes which meets because you know what you run into when you you don't need to earark it because you may need 10 vests this year, you may need five next year, you may need you know 12 tasers this year, you may need 20 next year. So if you earmark it then you've you put yourself in a in a bind. So law enforcement purposes deems whatever the is necessary at this current point in time it could mean anything bean anything. Well that's all I had. If you got one minute captain Bernard you ready to touch back. He's got just two quick things and we'll be done. Thank you. I did bring it.

Wow. I like that. books. Approved them, so I figured I'd start using them. All right, sir. I like that. at their swap building which is at the roof park.

So, we've been talking about this swap building. Uh finally got with Susie, Jason, Kirk. We're uh we've got the dates nailed down if y'all we're ready to let bid. Uh if y'all want to put that on the agenda for Tuesday to let bid for this building so we can see where we're at. And that's one we already That's one of the ones we were going to build out of the some of the money left from selling the timber and all that, wasn't it? He probably much left. The only one we don't have any plans for I think I don't think we set any money particularly aside to do the u uh command center building the one in Pel City. We're hoping to have those plans done the end of next week.

But this one right here are some monies. Michelle, what do we have? So y'all have a hundred,000 of money that y'all received a few years ago marked for him building. Gotcha. So, so whatever the extra this building cost beyond that, there's some still in that tree property sales. The last I'm trying to remember and I don't have to look,

but that's complete plans. Uh, I think we had a little bit of language that Kirk and Susie and Jason and myself, we all got worked out, but we're good there. Am I correct in that, Kirk? So, it to be Tuesday. It's that it's ready and that's the plans to be bid. 160 by 100. That's the one the one at the county department on the left county shop 60 by 100. Yes. 60 by 100. Okay. Look at there. Over there.

So that the drawing and everything pictures and drawing. Would you show these to Rody? Dad ain't bad. You ain't let yours yet. They sort of got tied together with paperwork and stuff. So this is tied to that. We said we weren't going to tie them together. We got to let yours be individually. It'll be individual. But who decided to put them together? We distinctly said we weren't. Let's put it. We done approved his be. Yeah, his already been approved. This is a separate building. We weren't gonna tie them together. How are they tied together? I thought we said separate. We did say separate. I mean,

it's a group. It's a It's a group we said separate. They tied together by money uh are they tied together by Are they all going to have to be done by the same contractor? Are they going to be done by the a property a building management entity or what? I think the review and stuff is review of the bid fix. Is that what you mean? I guess what I'm saying is can your building be built by one contractor that put in a bid? The other one built by another. Yeah, that's correct. They're separate separate packages. Okay. Don't let them both be at the same time.

Same time frame. Same. I don't know where you want to talk about that. So, the other thing you have there is the uh where the driver's license is currently. Uh we talked about uh that space

with adding one wall and closing off two doors. You can have two separate entrances from the hallway. Uh we're currently doing our medical redoing our medical contract. With that, we're going to have a pretty good mental health package in there uh with a psychiatrist. A lot of what we deal with at the jail is mental health. So JBS will give us a case manager, which is not a therapist or a counselor. What they do is once we get them on a regiment in the jail, a medication regiment. They ensure that when they get out of jail that they can have access to their medicine, whether that be transportation, uh help pay for it, things like that. Uh the agreement with JBS says that we will give them access to inmates in the facility and an office space. Having conversation with our mental health officer as well uh feel that these inmates that get out of jail that need their medication are going to be more apt to come to a space that is not in the facility. They're not coming back to jail

to talk to somebody about their medication. So, still giving them the access they need, giving them a office space that uh they have a secure place that they can come in and talk to these people and get these people the to stay on the medication they need to keep them out of jail. We think this this plan here will work better than any other. Um, okay, we got Patrick there now. Now to the left of that is uh our uh veterans office. So you'll have your veterans office. Veterans office there. And he also deals with mental health if we can especially tie that in somewhat with the with the JVS because some of those veterans on mental health

may need access to help getting medication as well. So he can help them with that. But the JBS office is the stepping up program. We can check that box off from the people that are encouraging us to have that. So that's done. So we already have Patrick, we already have Danielle. So that's just their office space there. Common area would be where people sit waiting on them and that kind of thing. Gives Danielle an office space as well as our mental health officer, not in the courtroom. Yeah. People come, they go have to go to the probate to talk to her. They're like, you know, we're going to a court. It gives her a spot to be able to meet with people,

family members that have a little more privacy. her program and anything else in your program that has to do with the mental health and the opioid is where we were looking at our budget of $250,000 plugging it in for that we think we can verify through our classification program of how they when they come into the jail. Yes. Are they mental health? If they are mental health, are they drugreated mental health? If they are drugreated mental health, are they opioid connected? We need that data to give to the the examiners to justify taking money from the opioid money for these programs. Okay. Yes. Everybody good with that?

That door enters off the existing hallway into that one office. Yes. Who's closed? Yeah. By building that wall in the middle, you create two offices and he has a secure office that is not connected anything else. Oh, yeah. Get the other two offices and the other two can have a common area because they work together anyway. hand in hand. We just have to get the news agent just building finished and get a Y have a plan. A plan's a plan. I like this plan. This is exactly why we needed them moved out. This is the kind of thing we we got to have and we

and we want to be successful in this with the keeping the people out of jail, the mental health issues that we deal with because that's what we deal with mostly. Y'all good?

What kind of action we need to do on this? Got to let it out. Ready to let this out for And did y'all not y'all got quotes back? No, we don't have anything. When is the u the Pel City building going to be? When's that going to be ready to to for us to look at? We're hoping to have some plans finalized by end of next week, first of the following. Okay. So, that being the the hope hopefully by the next work session, we'll have plans in hand for that to look at. Okay. It's what we're shooting for. Excellent. Very good. We're moved off that alleyway. Thank you. Thank you.

Buy more of that property. We want to use that roadway. building what we got now. We got a building down that gravel. Why don't we don't have to put it just be it just be setting it up ready to use later that we wouldn't have to go back that that alleyway for anything on a building. We wouldn't have to worry about we could use big part of the parking lot. I'm just drive in turn in otherwise like right now or build right over. That's what can't build over now. Can't build over a sewer. No. If we move Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I meant. Gone. Yeah. Do we have a estimate of what it cost to move that sewer yet? We have talked about it. We had surveyed. We know where it is.

Jason's talked about it, but he never come up with a number that I remember. What I'm getting at is you don't hold up that. No, it should. No, not what he We don't move that move later if you wanted to. Ain't going to hold up depending on where it go. depending on where he puts that building. But we got big We got to get rid of that generator somehow. That big one. That big block might use and they might use the shop. We don't have They got a big one. We've got one for the office. We don't have one for the shop. You ain't got nothing for the shop or none of them other building. Y'all just got one from the for just the office. It's diesel. You got

plenty of diesel down. We'll try to keep plent that up there cuz diesel you can keep it full of diesel and keep set up there other buildings in this in the shop and everything could run off that. Well, we could set up a home base there if we had a disaster. I I don't know how much it cost, but it's probably big enough to do two or three buildings, even like training center or something. Oh, yeah. No doubt. Yeah, it runs that building right there. It runs central dispatch. Now, the shop runs uh some pretty torquy things such as welders and stuff. So,

yeah. Yeah, it's it the uh but still it's it's not that much of load. It's not. We probably wouldn't be welding a whole lot while the power was out. Y'all welding y' 110 or 220? 220. Y'all 220. Okay. I think we may have somewhere to put that generator. Get it out of the way. Then we can have the little building. Then we got to replace it with something uh much smaller. Put it somewhere much more. I walked up there the other day looking. There's a lot of breezeway right here and there's a door there and they got tables and a chair sitting in there for what? Why couldn't we set a generator right in there? They don't never come out that door.

That's what I'm saying. They don't come out that door. The door is not in use. If it'll sit there, that's that's a great idea. It'd be out of the way. It would set it right in there and it'd be out of the way. Of course, it' be on natural gas. That's right. Natural gas and gas lines right there and you wouldn't have that far to run it. It'd be tied. You could actually set it inside that uh tower. Yeah, it could we looked at that when we were this would actually keep it out of the way. That's right. Yeah, you're right. Keep it out. So, do we want to move forward on having someone give us a quote there? And if we get that, then we move it. Moving talking about moving that generator. Well, we'll need to get one in place and operational before we remove it. The dispatch will need backup. Somebody need to remove that one at the same time. Put another in.

Yeah, maybe even have it on. you go ahead and prove getting another generator and getting it set up. Cuz I believe Dan, y'all can move that gener that other generator in that in that tank, couldn't you? You know, I've never really looked at see about how much. But I mean, could you run over there to the corner's office? I'm just asking. All that ideas is what I do. I feel like we can move it. You can move that generator in tanks. I would think you could. Oh yeah, pick them up. You set them up for

unless it's a monster. We should be able to pick it up. Knock him walk down anyway. All block come down long at all. You could put that in the bed package. set to move the I'm going to speculate on this, but that generator is probably to where we can tie in the sheriff's training building across the road. I think it's big enough for all have a we'd have a whole setup when you could do that three or four buildings up there.

Location, you'd have location be everything there where you put it centrally. We decide you just looking to see where be a centrally located spot to set it up there in that tank to run all them buildings off of something. What do you think, Clay? Is that what you're looking for? A job. Repurpose it. Yeah, we'll make it happen. I think we need to add that as too. We going to have to get a price on what side. I'd say Tuesday we need to uh authorize uh letting a bid on a generator to rep to natural gas generator newer model more efficient at the operation center. I agree. And do we want to power up the whole building? That's the next question. Or just the dispatch room.

I think just the dispatch room and the emergency management room that those two little spots because that's got so what you got to have got to have got that in there moving the other one. Wires got to be took out. It's got to be done right. The the one that's move that one from there to the shop. Well, they're going the new will be put in a different place. So, this one will just be disconnected if we want to go back in. So, I guess disconnect the the one that's there, the existing one, and bid on the new. Y need the other and then send Dan the man over there and pick up the whole generator, move to the shop. Well, they have to go over tear wall.

They probably let me come tearing the walls down. We got a car up there for you to run over, too. Run that car over, too. We'll need that. We'll need that generator operational before we take this up. No down time. We going to have to have somebody look at that and tell us what side generator is going to take to run. Yeah. You going to take the same size generator to run as it takes to run the corners? That's a 200 amp service we're talking about for the So, it'll serve for the same purpose. Yes. 200 amps is is a lot. So, who does Susie need to work with on the bids that generator. We need someone needs to meet whoever's going to bid it so they'll know what they're looking at.

We need an electrical person to tell us what load. Yeah, we need someone to meet on side. I And I will meet Rody or Lyn or whoever and Ricky. What size? Uh that's 22. You say it's 22 for for the corner's office for the 23. I think it's 26. 26 I think. that I think it's y'all my understanding and I don't know what generators you pull it in let it rip you don't I think the reason for the wire is it's a three wire I know I know what it is now I've had time to think about that

I'm pretty sure it was a 26 kW I know it is 26 kW generator you by chance know the size of the breaker that serves that Yes sir about yay 30 amp or 20 amp. Break that down in less technical. I mean truthfully I And the reason I'm asking that is that's truly all we're worried about maintained in a power outage is that chiller that cooler. Yeah, that's you know what I've told what I told them priority we got to have is cooler. Be nice to have a couple of lights in the back. Yeah,

it don't take much. But I think he was I mean again I don't know I don't I mean I met with him one time and I told him the wrong information. So there I mean y'all I just don't know a whole lot about generators other than when they're on the truck you hit the button and they come on the lights come on. I mean I just I don't know. I'll get with Rody to see if he got another quote because the the quote y'all had in your work session folders a couple work sessions ago was out a date. way old and I'll get with Rody to see if he got a new quote from that same company because the company called Miss Tina and I hadn't heard back from I mean from the company that quoted before. Yeah, the TMZ or what? I mean TMH right there. Yeah.

Okay. So, you have tried to reach out to them. Yes, he is. We going to need to look at both places. Give us whoever looked both of them places. I don't mind meeting with Rody if we need to meet with Rod, show him what we need quoted or I don't mind. But I I got idea where you're talking about. Close that door way off. That's right there. He's right there. You know where he's talking about chair sitting there. He got a little table sitting sitting waiting to wash car.

I mean just a thought. You have to have it as a secondary means of egress for fire. Just thought I don't know that. We got some stuff we got to follow up on. Okay. Tuesday, we need to authorize uh that to bid. We need to authorize uh hiring an electrician to give us the load requirements for the central dispatch dispatch area and EMA. That's right. And then we can go from there to get specs for our generator. That's right.

We need to authorize that Tuesday. Then the next step we'll take would be to open to do bids for generator electrician. Hire an electrician. dispatch and did the hire electrician overlook the saw what you need? No, we just sort of looked at the breaker panel. The bottom line is that wire we're talking about is that's how old this thing's dated. It's got 220 and the neutral and the ground are one in the same. That's what that is. That's got to be what you're talking about. Oh, that bed should have a a black, white, red, black, white, and a ground is the four wire system they're talking about. That's a three, red, black, and white be neutral. And we're going to hold off on this.

So, it wouldn't be three phase. That's the That's got to be I read further. It is a singlephase generator. So, that's what it is. They just upgraded the service entrance. And that was higher than the one we got before. The one we got before was old. It was an old crown. So they're using the ground was serviced as the neutral ground. That's old system. So you talking 800 National Electrical Code Book was upgraded before the 70s. I remember it as a kid. I don't. So, we're predating same the same engine, the same

electrician we hired to size the generator for central dispatch and EMA needs to go over and size his generator. Hire an electrician. I agree. To do both, but do we want to power up the whole building or just the chiller on his this go for the cooler or the first one in line? Been there for years and need have one for the for the cooler, but we definitely need one for the cooler and the lights in that cooler. I'll be able to run that plug in that room. Yeah. That's the reason I asked the size of the breaker on now. Is that a one that's is that a one person? Is that a one person cooler? No, you can put a bunch of them in there. Several. How many people can you get in there? How many people

bodies? Yeah, several. Absolut total slam packed is 10. There you go. Yeah. 10. Yeah. Yeah. Have you yet? I thought we had like a tooth this morning. Roll them in there. Okay. So, you had seven. You had seven in there. Yes. On a regular I've had eight on a regular basis here lately. Well, anyway, we need the electrician to tell us what it takes to run that chiller run. Yeah, that's got it. We'll authorize that Tuesday. I agree. Yeah. Okay. All good. Moving on to town.

First item is just anformational item. Y'all know we was doing a case study for university in Mississippi. The employee that was working on that pay study is no longer working with the university. So we have a new person working on it. The price has increased from 9,000 to 12,500. But I've got Jennifer Foreman with HR reaching out to other university to get quote. We're looking at Yes. So, it's gonna Yes. And this study, if we went with the 12,500, it would not be back until sometime next year. We would not receive the study back. That's right.

The next item is Dr. Walkers with University of Alabama. You know, he came and spoke with us for the funding of 18,900 for the medical students. It was miscommunication. He was requesting funding for last physical year and this fiscal year. We only approved one physical year because you know they didn't request a payment for last physical year. Somebody had not been paid. One's been paid which is for this fiscal year will be paid on Tuesday's bill pay. I'm talking about

somebody had somebody had to pay that rent a year ago. Exactly. So it's been paid. So if it's been paid, why why would we why are we going to give them money if someone's already been paid? It's up to us. Do you want to or don't? We don't want to. We because it was paid. It's not a bill. It's not a bill out there to be paid. I think that bill's been paid by. So we need to go from here on forward from here. I think so. And this is one of those things there again that I'd like to see us move into the uh discussion or that any time needs to go through the healthcare authority. I think you're right. that's not something we need to work with.

So, we'll we'll turn over his discussion and his communications to the healthcare authority I believe will be uh better served. And how this came up, they had emailed me and asked if it was going to be a gap in the agreements from last year to this year. So, I called and spoke with a lady with the university and she explained it a little bit more in detail. So, their understanding was exactly how it came up. They didn't call and ask for the money. Explain that to her and say, "Oh, we better call and ask for it now." But that's like I said, the bill's been paid. We'll move forward, I think, today. Keep it as is. Then we'll talk to the next healthcare authority meeting. We'll uh if y'all ready, we'll move the communications from this project over to them. I believe it'll be

I think it just makes more sense for that for that money to flow through the healthcare authority. Don't I do? Y. Okay. I believe we can do that pretty quick. Okay. Next item. St. Clair County Fire and EMS Association is requesting appropriation in 1,500 to cover the cost of equipment and supplies for their first annual St. Clair Junior Fire Academy. Uh, we can give the volunteer fire departments money. Can we give the Fire EMS association? I don't think so. Now, we can with some kind of contract for services. So, but I don't think we have a contract with the Slair County Fire and EMS Association. That's the That's all the volunteer fire department.

We can give individual volunteer fire departments. We pave the parking lot and give them money. So, is that some kind of something we're trying to get, I guess, younger folks involved in. It looks like the fire and EMS association is coming up with that. County has that and that has been a huge I mean, huge success. Yeah, I'm sure it would be great. I'm just saying it's a nonprofit. We don't we don't it's not something we can legally do. I think he told me they had 10 grand allocated Harvey. Okay. He said we contribute and I told him to request something, you know, we'll start somewhere. It's for the youngsters. It's a two-day camp that they I think it is there's got to be there is a way there there's a way.

I think it's three days. Three days. Okay. And it's for the youth to try and we'll go to whoever's headed up whatever department that is. We'll give them appropriation. That's Harvey. Yeah. Okay. So, they sprinkles headed up. They are. He's actually heading up to the city of Springfield. We can do it to the city of Spring that that's a good that's money well spent there. Train those youngsters. Well, train will your market. We can do that. We say this money $1,500 to the city of Springville to go towards the to be given to the Springville Fire Department to go towards the payment of the St. Clair Junior Fire Academy. They have one today in Bluntsville or Blunt somewhere. And they say it's a hit. A lot of the youth come to it and it's really been a big thing. That's a good idea, Mr.

Yes. But we need to follow up with that. We need volunteers down the road. Okay. I think I'll think we figured out a way. There is a way. Where's Where's my sign? Left it on my desk, didn't know. The one from there sign. It can be done. Oh, it can be done. Informational item. That's what you can go ahead if you want to. No, you just The county's IT division is working on issues. We've got issues on phone lines at the Asheville and Pel City Courthouse. Um, and John and Glenn is working on that. Do you have anything you want to say about that, John?

Uh, basically, uh, it was something we were going to try to get to this year. There's still may be time, but the year is running away from us a little bit. Uh system we got now is going into its 11th year. Uh now we just got phones falling apart. Um the other issue that we've got is we've got some provider issues that we've been trying to snuff out. Uh mainly on the south end of the county. Um a lot of that's uh and it's not just one department that's having issues. It's it's it's countywide. A lot of those issues are delayed uh speaking um drop calls or either uh when when they make calls out it just dies. It says it's a disconnected number which we all know it's not. We've had um we've had several uh meetings and uh discussions with Lumen which is Pel City Bratzby if if y'all are more familiar with that. Um they've sent several uh representatives out and we've got we still have an ongoing ticket with them. um as they try to troubleshoot. Uh my understanding and some I'm sure somebody will correct me online, but if I think a lot of the service that's that used to become out of Pale City has now been migrated to the trunk in Birmingham. So, it's a little bit more difficult to root out issues um if you will. However, that is not an excuse. I'm just giving you an update of what's been told to us right now. Our existing phone system u within the county is uh considered an on-site system serviced by two providers. One in the north of Windstream, one in the south of Bratzby. We are looking uh we're looking at our options now to see about going to an hosted solution to where we can get the equipment offsite and it's all managed. I hate I hate the term, but managed in the web basically. I was going to say the cloud, but the cloud is the web. Um, but we've got a lot of things to think

about. It's just not easy as flipping a switch. Uh, we're responsible for EMA. They have to have, uh, access to phones 24/7, 365, as well as our sheriff's office dispatch. And along with that, sheriff's office dispatch still has what's known as analog lines as a backup if in case something happens. So, and on top of that, we've got recorded lines, uh, regarding any of the sheriff's office, business, dispatch, and so on and so forth. So, uh, it is it is a conundrum, if you will. Um, it's it's a fight. We we it just we just got to dig our nose into it, figure it out, and we want to make sure we get it right. Obviously, we never want nobody wants to do anything halftailed, but we just need to make sure we've got everything out on the table. We need to understand if we go to the web, can we bypass our current bottlenecks such as our local providers. Um, if that is something we can run into, then that that would be a great solution because now we're having to call a person who has to call a person who has to call a person to to root out an issue. Uh, just because we have so many hands in the cookie jar, so to speak. So, we're trying to do our due diligence on this. We're asking patience from our elected officials and department heads. I know it's frustrating. It

is very frustrating.

Uh but uh we've we we know the issues. We're aware of the issues. We're trying to run down as many issues as we can, but eventually it is going to come back to replacing the existing system at hand just due to the age and technology. uh you know Tina mentioned something is something that we're going that may appear on um next budget year because we really didn't account for it this year even though we have been talking about it for quite a bit now uh internally in our department um however um we've already tal reached out to a couple of companies IC is one uh we've reached out to Granite uh which is one that handles our billing right now on our analog lines and we reached out to a couple of folks just dipping our toes in the water trying to see how much it would be. Um, however, I'm dragging this on and I apologize, but basically we are looking at it. We're very well aware of it. We understand there's a frustration point. You're probably going to hear a lot more of the frustration point if you haven't already. Um, I know our elected officials are frustrated with it. I know our judges are frustrated with it. And it it's just we're just trying our best to get it right and uh that way we don't have to revisit this for possibly another 8 10 years. So that's that's where we are currently.

John, have have we decided if it's the a system failure or a phone? It's it's it's it's all it's it's a little bit of everything. the drop the drop calls um the issues with calls not being able to connect. Those are um those we lean more towards those are provider issues especially in P City. Those are the ones the the phones that we had were refurbished phones when we got them I think. No, they were not. Okay. But no, but the seems like mine is getting worse and worse.

The the the life cycle on the phones are are obviously not good. Mel doesn't really support those phones anymore. Uh when we first obviously when we bought them they were brand new but again it's been 10 years. Handsets are going out, screens are going out. Um speakers are getting hard to hear. We got very lucky. Um Slair County Education Board of Education they they ditched their own prim solution and went to a cloud-based and they happened to be using the same type of phones we were using. So, we've got a box of phones that they gave us, but those are used. So, at at this point now, we're we're replacing handsets and and base units with what we've got as spares from Slair County, which is right now it's actually saving a good bit of money doing that. It's a quicker turnaround, whereas we'd have to order them and wait, and it could be pricey. So, if if y'all fell into that boat, that might be the situation. But um uh what functional issues that that are common that we're having to deal with is rattling. Like you may be talking to somebody and you hear hear the static and that's that's due to a bad handset. They're not able to adjust the volume or see who's calling them because the display is going out. That's those are device issues. Um anything dealing with calls whereas uh the biggest the biggest complaint we've got is called delay. um they're talking over each other because the delay in the line that's more leaning toward a provider issue with with the with the phone lines. So we would we're dealing with a little bit of both if you will. So

I noticed a lot a lot where Alabama Power is updating and the phone lines is not. They're still on the old polls or uh y'all run into that up there right there at the place you clearing off. I've seen that. Uh, but I've seen that a lot of stuff going on down 11 there and it sticks out like sore thumb. The phone companies are selling as fast as they they're they're changing names. Trucks got in it too.

You know the ideally, you know, you just logically stepping back and looking at my industry, you would think that getting off of copper and migrating to fiber is the way to go. U so that's so that and and that's a big question we have if we make this leap to a webbased system where everything is managed in the cloud

is that put does that put us on say the AT&T backbone which is all fiber you know are we going to be on a fiber backbone at that point we're not dealing with a local copper any longer the only local copper we're dealing with is is our network because it takes that to go from our network to the internet so you know these are questions we got to ask. These are questions we got to understand and a answer. If we can bypass these like Windstream and and don't get me wrong, um like Windstream up here at North, they've been dynamite to work with anytime we've had issues. Lumen on the other hand, um I think they've changed hands too many times in the past couple years. Um so anyway, that's where we are.

I have phone rolled. Y'all rolled mine over to my phone. I had answered mine on the desk. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's I just have to remember that and rings. Just wait a minute. This will Okay. When we swapped over the voice over,

Kirk, tell us something. Well, um I mean I've worked on um a couple of things with the um subdivision regulations. Still an ongoing thing. I got to meet with Commissioner Stevens a little bit about that the day and so um I think we'll have something ready for y'all to look at quickly. Um I've worked on been working on a couple of things for the sheriff. Um and um that's that's the extent of what I've been working on.

Ricky, we we've been talking and we mentioned it earlier today. Is there something you could put together where we do a subdivision to say what we said maintain? They have to have a homeowner association. Yes. have to with covenant bylaws and then there somewhere have words where it's required that they're responsible for the upkeep of an engineered sewer system and it be in the closing. So I think you want that.

I'm just asking what can we do? Right now, if they go to a sewer system, they got to have a permit. And what they're doing right now is company is in form of a need living water, something else like that. They have to be hooked up with a company that that's what they do is manage sewage systems. So, they do the billing, they do the upkeep, uh they design it when it first goes in. It's theirs for the life of that thing. They test it, they do going to be charging them like a sewer bill every month.

Yeah, but I mean there has to be some understanding when you buy a property in that subdivision to just say I go in I have to have a clear understanding that to close it that I take on responsibility with the rest of the homeowners to pay for that and they their monthly charge basically. That's what I mean. It has to be understood that they're responsible as a homeowner in that sub. They pick up part of that cost. Does that make sense? It does. You know, Commissioner Crows here, we don't want to end up with something similar to what we have on these parcels of land that are uh storm water runoff settlement ponds. Whose are they when they leave?

You know, some of we just assume, well, they belong to the HOA. Uh they don't have an HOA. Now, who's are they? And they're filling up with dirt and they're growing up grass and they're not maintained. And so, who maintains them? Who do they belong to? Well, if you go by the old law where somebody didn't pay the taxes on that parcel and left, it's ours. It belongs to St. Clair County. So now we Slair County owns a bunch of settlement ponds that grow up in grass that do not comply. You know what I'm saying? That's same situation there. We don't want we don't want any any homesite sewer systems that uh that that the county has any responsibility for maintaining.

I don't know how we do that, but space. We got it where the HOA HOA is supposed to be the owners of the settling ponds and all that. Yep. And some of them were some of them worked out that way. But uh but I can tell you there's some reason I know that went that way, but now 60 to 70% of them houses in are rental houses and nobody wants to take care of them. So yeah, you you know what it takes to do away with most HOAs?

Turn them rental houses. three-fifth vote of the of the members of the HOA. We're going to dissolve our HOA. We don't owe any money. We don't have any debt. We fulfill the reason for having that HOA. We're going to mow our own grass. We vote to dissolve dissolve the HOA. And I think it takes most of them to set up with the three-fifth vote is gone. So, the HOA that used to own the sewer system and the settlement pond is gone. That's when you got a dried up settlement pond with trees growing in

and and and system it does work. But it goes back to the old saying we didn't take these people to raise. But in a way it falls on us whether we like it or not. They're going to end up in this room. Right. And uh so somehow another we've got to be sure that the that the buyer the purchaser knows that the bag of potato chips actually has 6 ounces in it. some something some entity's gota got to monitor that. I'm just saying if I build a subdivision and put it in an engineered system, it doesn't go through our locals. It goes to the state of Montgomery and I sell all out and I leave. The homeowners don't have don't have a clue. Folks don't know what an engineered system is

and all of a sudden they got sewer problems. Who's going to be responsible? We can't be. They think the road Well, they have to be. They think the road that was built is going to be fine. It's going to have a new service on it. We just had we've had them up here several times in the last year. It's not our road. We can't even work. That's the one thing I just want to protect the county taxpayers from having to be responsible for a subdivision engineer system and they have a sewer problem five years, 10 years from now. Homeowners say, "Well, we're going to dissolve a homeowner." So, they not going to be able to flush their commots issue. We got to make sure somebody's got to be some of it's in there. I guess

the way my understanding which could be wrong but uh the state Adam is going to require them to have a company managing that that's not associated with the homeowners association. They're going to be independent company and they have to have well supposed to be a reputable company and they're going to have the monthly charges going. They'll bill it and it'll go to them. So that's to maintain and operate the system. I got you. Yeah. Go to them being the homeowner. Going to the billing to who? Billing goes to the homeowners each month. Just like you pay your water bill.

I just want to make sure that's understood at a closing when someone does buy that that they know what they're buying. That's all. Well, you know, ADM AD Adam also says you cannot dump uh tires and construction debris in a landfill that's only for trees from a tornado. Uh and and if it catches on fire, who's is it? ADM's in charge of that, too. And we fought a fire issue. I don't trust the system to protect the rest of the citizens. It's the big thing. And and we represent the rest of the citizens. We require a statement on the flats. Yeah,

we used to stamp a plat. Your road will not become a county road until it meets the specification set by the county engineer day you that it becomes a county road. He has to his cuz his rules change. Let's just say 6 in compact and church. This time he changes it to nine. If you waited during that time now you got to have nine before it becomes real. So, we got we got a lot to talk about on these or we end up with with land with, you know, property ownership issues established by a government that had got the authority. That's kind of what we're trying to protect. Counties don't have the authority to handle these kind of things. We end up with the problem. We don't have the authority to handle.

There you go. I just want to protect the homeowner as well as the taxpayer. Yeah. Of having to be responsible for an engineered sewer system. That's all. Okay. I think I think we're getting there. That's why we got a good lawyer. We got a good one. What's this? SWAT building. That just goes That's the specs. Got you. Okay. All right. Anything for Kurt? Any of the commissioners? I know. Good discussion. Appreciate it. Dan, I know y'all are aware of all these. Those are some of the things that's come out over the last several years. Nobody was sitting around doing nothing. There's a bunch of questions that come up and not all of them have been getting there. You

I'm up. Okay. Is that the next page? Thank you, Dan. Thank you. Got 20 minutes.

Yeah. Ken Crow, he's here. He's got a place on the agenda. Permanent agenda. Yes, sir.

Okay. We've heard terms seasonal workers, temporary, part-time. when I come up with intern and usually intern means unpaid college student or something to that effect I'm wanting to or I'm asking to hire a person to help with GIS and probably could even throw it in as a professional service I guess because I need to be a student of GIS and I want to use them for 10 weeks during the summer. Um, limited hours like 27 hours a week at a pay grade 10 which is right at $7,000 and that's my request. I've had a I've talked with HR I've talked with the attorneys with Tina. They requested a a job description. We put one together and got it approved by them and all the entities. So it's the decision will be yours.

You said 10 weeks. Yeah. Summer break. Summer break. December. What we do for Dan then? Yeah. Just like his temporary season. We talked about when I said it said something. Why don't we give everybody an intern because they get credit at school. So calling it an intern would be Yeah, that's kind of where seasonal work or something student or Yeah, they need to be a student of GIS program. Okay.

Put it on Tuesday. I am okay with it. Sure. Sure. always are when you thank you. I wish we had you on these subdivision. What about the extra space we discussed? What about your extra space we're talking about? You just go out the back of where you are in P City right into that new space. Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great. Think about doing that is just put a tent kind of up. Yeah. Yeah, they go ahead. Just put a lane to up the phone system if it's a problem for 911 like it is for me. I don't know how they're operating. I drop calls that's out of the P. John said we talking over people. Yeah.

Uh it's is very hard to communicate and that's that's that's our lifeline. I don't I wasn't aware we was having issues out of the Pel City system. I mean over like I say over here I don't I don't know whether y'all had any or not. I get all of mine right there. We have issues a lot of So we have them over here too. We've had we've had to call the actual office and get them to transfer the call to Pel City to get it to even go through. So the Asheville office seems to work a little better. We had trouble when the cable was cut a little better. Yeah. Having a different issue to me last time truck. We need dump truck bed on it. If it get if 911 gets like mine, they won't be able to operate. We got to we'll address that. Thank you guys.

See you. Thank you. So, do you want that to be called intern as he is requesting or seasoned? I I wouldn't call it I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's intern unless an an intern's getting credit for a course. Well, now we didn't want to restrict it to that. We we we heard from the auditors. We even run it by the auditors and they said you could pay an intern. So, you can pay an intern, but what an intern is is somebody that's also getting school credit. School credit. Yeah. So if he's not in school class getting school credits to be in need in that class or could be in that class the person I'm looking for is needs to be in a class and I haven't been request had that request from the school. I got you. So

yeah if you run it through I like the idea of an intern and everybody can have one. Dan has one that's a guy majoring in engineering or construction science. Uh probate judge has one in we can have one that's majoring in uh accounting. But the parents of those college students really would like for them kids to be making some money during the summer time. No doubt about it. Why can't you channel that through the vocational school, too? You could. Yeah, you could. I like that. That's a That's a big help. Yeah. But right now, you're just basically talking about seasonal person to hire. Yeah. Yes. Well, I hired some folks to do and I went over this

I went over this the other day. Uh, and let's see if I can while we're at this point, I'll discuss this here. Uh, we stay out of your business and proate judge and the sheriff's business when y'all hire people. But in our case, we don't. But we're different. Uh, you choose who you hire in your office. You're the final word. Not one of us five are. Three out of five are. We're totally different. We don't have a so we have to run ours through the commission to approve. That's why you hear us say recommendation from staff is to hire Billy Bob so and so and we have a vote three to two but for you we the recommendation just comes from you and it's done you so if you've got a vacancy we don't you decide to post it

right unless we decide to cancel the job right and and that's one thing I probably didn't mention on this I I don't have a place for this one this will need to come out of the the general plan okay y'all would have to creating a position. So, but we're talking about so little that it's thousand hours probably be a top. Yeah, I think we I think we set a number of hours that be they work up in such number.

We had a position with the state employment office that I got when I first got back in Vietnam. It was called local office representative. Sound like a big job. Then I got 640 hours that I could work paying the same thing that a interviewer makes. And then I had to take off at minimum of 30 days and apply for another 640 hours. So in this case, you need X number of hours. Y and that's sort of something we could plug in for everybody. Everybody gets so many hours for somebody they're trying to bring up. You're training them possibly to replace somebody in your office. There you go. Well, I think Ashton's going to add a GIS person. Yeah, if we can get in that program and get some of those folks out there.

The lady the lady at at the shop, she's she's right. Okay, it's a big deal. I think we got this. Thank you guys. Okay, moving on now. Discuss schedule position call work session. We said we'd do that. We talked about that. We still got it on our plate. It'll stay on our plate till we get it resolved. Item two, discuss lady SWAT storage building in Road Park. We got that taken care of, right? Yep. to

and and Okay, item three, discuss intern position. We just did that. Item four, discuss crest corner Jeff Parish generator. We got that. Ping the alleyway. Dan's checked on that. That's just going to be a matter of us deciding when to go in there when he's doing plant mixing down that way and plant mix from the main street over there halfway down the alley. Okay. But from what I understood while we go, that will not be on the agenda about the generator until we get additional quotes or get electrician to go out there. I think that's right. I think you're right. We don't know what size generator and he doesn't either. So, we need to get the same guy that's going to tell us what size we want at the central dispatch uh building and the EMA can go down there and say, "All right, this is what it's running."

And I'll try to meet with them when he does. I'll be there with them just to make sure we know what we're as a commission. Yep. We'll be able to discuss it. We can do that. But now, Payton is a separate thing. Yeah. That falls under that's something but like I say, that's something we can do. Stan can do. Yeah. It won't be even if we tell him how much we pay him out of the general fund like I like to I don't like to get Dan to do work we don't pay him for but that's going to be Lebe job if they're down there doing Wolf Creek Dry Creek somewhere slip up there and do that little P city's doing some paving right in that area they are they're right there we could possibly they're on first avenue right now we could probably

The only issue I have is I don't want to tear up that alleyway pave it and they turn around tear up that alleyway putting gas or whatever in that's we're going to have to run the gas from the main street, not the alley. Looks like it's coming Yep. It's coming from main street to the alley to your front door. It looks like Yeah, that's wire grass doing that. Yeah. Yeah. More than likely your gas meter will be set from the street between you and Freddy's office building. They're doing three right on the alley because looks like all the gas meters down through there from the alley. The gas meters are gone. The pipes are still there, but something there's no gas. Yeah, I think yeah, I think you're right.

Main Street will serve there. Uh, discuss plans to add offices storage pel courthouse. We'll move on with that and see if we get some ideas. Discuss request simmer to approve contract house federal inmates. Did we do that one? No, he's not ready. He's not ready yet. So, keep that on there. Uh, item seven, discuss quest to renew the most wanted Brooks Jeffrey marketing in ink contract for one year 29.95. Item eight, discuss civics plus contract and the prorated amount of $21,439.50. That's that ADA uh required things. We working on that. It will require a budget amendment. We ready to act on it? I think we're going to have to

I think we are too. We're required to comply with ADA according to our you going over it. We're ready to act. Okay. We'll do it Tuesday. Item nine. Discuss ADA website compliance. Same situation. EMA, 911, sheriff revenue. These will require budget amendment. Well, we don't do we have an amount for those? No, we just there was a question that came up about some because you know, do we have an amount? No, not yet. Do we have an amount? We don't we won't act on them. We don't yet.

Okay. Item 10, discuss question revenue. Commissioner Kro surplus of the items he's got listed there. They were purchased from the reappraisal fund, which means the money goes back in reappraisal fund. Item 11 discussed for sending the recommendation to hire uh a person that we're going to hire. Did we have that recommendation though to open meeting for So we did name Kelly Arrington. That person has turned down the offer. So that that position is still open. There will possibly be a recommendation from staff on a particular person on Tuesday. Yes, sir.

Okay. Uh item 12 discuss quest to purchase new copier. Uh this will require budget amendment $12,696. From what I understand, the machine is broken. Yes. Okay. Item 13, discuss quest revenue commissioner Kro for service agreement with R.J. Young. Same situation. $300 per year per year plus cost per square foot based on three tiers of line drawing and density for their mapping plotter. It's a great big printer. Okay.

Item 14, discuss travel requests. You have travel requests listed in your file. Have any discussion on any of those? Go over those and look on by Tuesday. And item 15, discuss any board appointments. Do we have any more board appointments ready now? I know we're going to have a couple come up, but I don't think we're hardly ready for the healthcare authority is going to be one. We've done that one, but we got another one. Got another one that's not ready yet. Okay. Um there were the three for the historic commission, St. Clair County Historic Development Commission. Robert D. All three of those agreed to be reappointed if

Okay. Well, you just reappoint them. They're Yeah, just reappoint them through. Y'all good for that? Reappoints the three that's on there. Okay.

And they only live a stem for the Northeast. I've got somebody that possibly looks at the MO County on that's just a portion of the county with Birmingham regional planning condition. So I'll try to have that not this time though it's not Cook Springs water had a vacancy looks like a long time but are they serving until appointed? I think they're still serving. So, so they still serving, they still want to serve or they want somebody to reappoint something.

We could you want us to reach out to them? Reach out to it is they still serving and want to continue to serve. You take and you travel request listed there. We need to reappoint them if they want to continue to serve. Okay, that's all I have. let you all have something. The uh St. Clair County Historical Development Society, Historical Society in Pel City meets tonight at 5, 5 to 7,

5 to 7. The uh Alabama home, the Sinclair County Homebuilders Association is meeting at 6:00 at U City Market. Uh so does Republican Party meeting at 6. And I think the people up there at City Market are going to be eating. So, I'm going to run straight from Republican meeting up there because I'm sure there going to be some discussion about uh subsections. We got a couple of candidates speaking and we don't want them answering for us. I mean, that's just that's something in our wheelhouse for for a while. I think it is. So, you're going to make that meeting? I'm going to make that meeting. I I'll leave. Steve Marshall's going to speak and I'm just going to wait at people going

3519. You got nine minutes. Look, we we should be some kind of record. It ought to be. Let me tell you this one more thing.

Uh I got a report from Michelle. Um, and the report is October 25, November 25, December 25, January 25, and all of you probably got the last one, which is February 26. I mean, January 26 and then February 26. I'll be taking these and going over the final figures of the of the fund balances to get my normal little graph thing I like to do for my own feelings and I'll try to have that ready to share that in my report Tuesday quickly. Okay. What happened? We

are we collecting how we're supposed to be collecting on gas? No. How are we going to follow? I don't know. I've struggled with that myself and the girls have struggled with it. We've got a firm that does our sales tax and we tried to get them to do our They're working on some audit supposedly, but they're not working on audit for our gas tax, are they? Are they? Yes, sir. Ah, okay. Oh, okay. We offer a home. John, are we off or home? No, I haven't been told to turn off. Y'all done? I just done Are we done? We're done.