Legislative Meeting - Regular Meeting

Okay, good morning and welcome everyone. It is March 24th, 2026. It is our 9:00 board briefing meeting. Uh let the record reflect that we have four commissioners that are present. Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner Walder, Commissioner Karns, and Commissioner Brooks. Um uh we are striking a couple items from our agenda this morning. So 2 A and 2 V we are striking. Um and we will then just continue on um and go. So it'll be a little ahead of schedule on on most of the items. So um under sheriff Kevin Richie if you want to come up and people are welcome to either sit there or oh they can't say okay

mic is on. All right. Uh good morning. I have just something really quick here. It's our annual stop grant uh uh award from the state. This is the annual award we get with the Spokane Police Department for uh providing some training money for our domestic violence detectives for uh combating crimes against women. Uh this year we're receiving $5,760 as a subreient from the SPD's award um Spokane Police Award, sorry. So, I'm just requesting uh that the board allow us to accept the money so we can send our detectives to the training that they do every year.

Any questions? Um, no. I'm I know this is under the threshold that Scott likes to have us look at, but again, I think this is a reason why we need to be bringing these forward to the commissioners and having us approve them. And so, I think that a good thing. Absolutely. Thank you. And I'll keep you, you know, up to date on what we're doing and stuff. So, awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Then that's going to take us to Chief Cooper. Oh, over here. I got my whole team. So, let's see. We brought everybody, so I have some questions.

Yeah, just make sure you turn on um the the mics. It's show. All right. How about this one? Does that work? Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

Well, good morning. So, we are here to brief the board on a renewal for the contract using the SPD range. Uh, as you know, last year we came in front of you and decided to not move forward with SPD and try to use all of our uh use the sheriff's office range for all of our training time. Just not enough time available in the day. So, we've been doing our training after six o'clock at night at the range. Um, and on Saturdays, just not enough hours. So, it's extending our new hire training as well as our inservice training. So, we're just asking to renew a partial contract with SPD. So, we use both ranges. So, that's we can go through the PowerPoint if you'd like, but that's really long and short of it. There's about about $7,000 a year, about $7,000 a year for us to use Spokane Police Department's range up to 48 times, and we project we needed about 42 times to get through training all of our existing staff as well as all of our new hires. So,

um, yeah. And I'm just assuming I mean the the range is well used with Fairchild. I mean you've got with Fairchild and the sheriff and then the sheriff's office. So yeah, that makes sense. And so are you having to experience overtone to go eating? Quite a bit. We have I can't think Cam has the numbers, but I think by using uh Spokane Police Department range, we can save around

uh upwards of $26,000 if we were to do everything at Spokane Police Department's range. Uh we do plan on using both. We do have some uh trainings that are scheduled out at the training center here in the next couple weeks as we transition to a new firearm platform for our custody staff. So we are using it uh when it uh when it's available for us. Um with that we were allow Spokam PD allowed us to use their range without a contract for one of our classes because the uh Air National Guard is using uh the range on a Saturday that we needed. Um, so just having that additional option will help us be able to get training scheduled appropriately and timely.

One of the differences with corrections versus law enforcement, uh, law enforcement officers are trained at the at their academy, all their initial firearms train. We train all of ours. They're not trained at the academy. So we need 80 hours for every new hire groups and we're hiring three or four groups a year. So we actually have just as much demand as the sheriff's office on that range. Sounds like this will pay for itself. Yeah, I agree. So, okay. Okay. Any question? Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you.

And then we have some updates on policy as well. We are in front of you in I believe October um asking me changing the process on how we um have policies in front of you to approve. Um, so right now we've got a what we're trying to do is like manageable, digestible uh amounts, but even this has I don't know 15 or 16 pages of policies. I think you all received them the last few weeks. And so at least our thought process now is maybe get in front of you every quarter until we're caught up on all the policy updates. I think so.

Okay. Originally, um, I think we proposed that I would just sign off on policies. the board wasn't um comfortable with that at that time. So they we present every three months, bring them in front of you, get them in front of you a week or a few weeks in ahead of time and then we just answer questions ra or we can go down and go through each policy if you'd like. So So this seems like this is a bigger policy update than than we've seen, right? We're going to have we have a number of outstanding policies. So, we'll probably be in front of every 3 months with this this amount each until we're caught up. Probably I don't know.

Yeah, we're probably looking at five to seven policies each uh session to get approved. And so, what we plan on doing is sending those out a couple weeks in advance, give you guys a chance. Uh we emailed out the next loon uh to your assistance. Um that way if you want to compare the updates uh to the existing policy, you can do that prior to the uh discussion. Um and then of course any emerging policies that come out uh based on that 2015 resolution, Chief Hooper can still uh approve those, get them active, and then we'll get those to the board as soon as possible um for approval. And then of course the quarterly updates because we are looking at about 31 pending uh policies right now that do need updates. And then maybe we can switch to that six month which we talked about back in October where we do a couple policy updates per year. So

okay. Um any questions? I guess I' I'd ask just to you know I know we have have it um but just to kind of give us the highlight. Sure. Why don't we go down the process? We show how as the color changes, some of them are statemandated changes, some are uh recommended by Lexiple itself and then some we've just taken on with the name changes to department's leads or things like that. So Justin,

yeah, so the goal was to um give you guys a cover page, giving you a brief update of what it is. Um as you go to each section, um as per normal, the red will crossed out as what they're proposing to be removed. Blue is new proposals and then black is current. Um, instead of giving you guys the whole chapter, what we felt would be best is to give you just the section that's being updated. Try to limit it the amount of information as much as possible. If you look, um, you'll see often it'll say either best practice, federal, state, or agency contact content. Um, federal is ba that policy is based on federal law. State is based off state law. best practice. It is what Lexiple has determined is best practice nationwide. And then a agency contact is anything that we have decided to add that we feel needs covered based on you know physical layout of the facility um unique things that we deal with at our facility. And then like they said, there's about, you know, there's seven changes on this one, but there's multiple updates within each each section usually.

Have any questions? Can you give us the highlights?

Yeah. Um, absolutely. Um, so on some of the major changes are like on the anti-retaliation policy, it's cleaning up language, um, making it clear of and making sure we're in line with county policy. Um, it'll say referred to to county policy and, uh, human resources. Um, under personnel complaints, um, it's removing civil service because we no longer follow under civil service, uh, rules. Um, we added in Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission notifications uh, into our policy. Lexiple had not added that. That's what's showing us agency content, but it is required by state law under certain circumstances for us to make notifications to them. So we wanted our staff to be notified in policy that we are required to do that. Um and then under transportation of inmates outside the secure facility that is updating our process on making sure that we can both safely and humanely transport inmates to medical appointments um for their safety, community safety, and our officer safety um and that we're documenting everything properly. Um while we do that um under court transport policy, this is a a new policy that we added in. It was combined originally in one transport policy. Uh due to the number of transports we're doing outside the facility and to court, we felt it was best to separate it out. Um some of this is based on um courtroom uh case law on when inmates can be handcuffed and unhandcuffed when they are um in front of judges. Um how we should transport them, when we should transport them. Um

a lot of it focuses on not uh securing pregnant females um based off of state law due to safety concerns. And then the last policy we have is a new policy on radio procedures. Uh and this is to bring uniformity to how we u communicate on our radios, the channels we use, letting our staff have a resource um on how they know what channels to use between facilities um if they're out doing other things out in the community as well. Um and then the last change is a policywide change and that is updating um our agency head title from director to chief.

Looks like yeah as you stated a lot of state requirements and changing. Is this a format like moving forward just to get on the agenda every three months and get it out to maybe a month ahead of time and just answer any questions that come up? Okay. We don't want to be overwhelming process. So I think it's good for us to just be aware though what what changes are coming from the state to you know just know understanding it helps us understand your jobs better. So great. Um, anything else for us? Any questions?

Uh, I think it's helpful information. Is there in the documents that you provided, is there any easy way for us when we're looking at it to see if it's a state law change versus a federal change? There is at the very top underneath the section. So 517.1 purpose and scope, you'll see best practice modified under that. Or if it's a state law, you'll see state hyphen modified. And then the same for federal. And then you also see or agency content there. Okay. Got it. That little header under the Exactly. Okay. And it will show those if you log on to Lexipool as well. It will also title those.

Okay. Only other thing I'd want to inform the board about is that um just a couple weeks ago we were informed that uh Spokane's going to we were awarded the um AJA American Jail Association conference in 2027. So we're going to be the host agency in 2027. We've been applying directors Barber Directors Barber's been applying. We've been applying for a lot of years. It's really the nation national conference for corrections. I've traveled to a lot of different places, but uh we'll be taking that on next year. So, we're traveling to Milwaukee to uh kind of an orientation this year with a a handful of us and then we'll be hosting next year at the convention center May 15th to the 20th about there. So, congratulations.

Well, thank you. Yes, I think it's going to be a lot of work. So, it was one of those things like so we we will we will figure it out. But, yeah, it's condolences then. Yeah, we'll get through it. We'll get through it. Yeah. So, Thank you. Thank you.

That's going to take us to Gil. I see you up there. Morning, commissioners. Um um I speak pretty loud anyway, so I didn't want to overwhelm everyone. So um couple months back, I briefed the board about the use of government contracts and limits that we were allowed to do. And at that time I was asked to go back and look at some of the vendors that we use routinely for routine maintenance such as fire alarm testing um a lot of our HVAC repairs that we do here. And over the last we did like a fiveyear history and look back at these are the vendors that we routinely exceed the 50k per year that we budget into our annual budget. And this is just to brief the board and ask permission to proceed forward with our purchasing department to make these expenditures for the routine testing. Um it was Costco fire protection um Costco fire protection for repairs. So, with Costco fire protection, um, we usually what we like to do to streamline this and not have to have them come back and set alarms off, we usually give them the flexibility to not only do the testing, but if they have the ability to

do the repair right there and then, we kind of kill two birds with one stone. And then the simplex JCI fire testing, that's for the jail itself. And we usually the testing alone usually runs into over 30k but then it depends if they have to do some repairs or something. So it may exceed that 50k limit. And then the Ferguson, normally I don't exceed the 50K on HBAC repairs because we use our own in-house uh technical support, but we had bought some units for the Monroe Court this year that had exhausted um before their life expectancy. So, we had to purchase those um as part of this. So, with this summer coming up and not being able to see about what my normal annual repair budget is, I may exceed that 50,000 this year with

So, are you asking for not to exceed or is it

No, the these are just basically I'm asking for permission to proceed through purchasing is set for normally normally I would come to the board if I was purchasing something over 50,000 for for a repair, a test repair, something of that nature. But with workday, this is an accumulative value over the course of the entire year that I would have been exceeding. It's going to be 10,000 here, 5,000 here. So, it's across the course of the year, which is something new we've never done before. So, these were the ones that that I had identified that we do routinely for routine maintenance exceed 50,000. What we decided to do on these instead of waiting until the actual expenditure that puts him over 50 and then it might slow them down a week or two to get it through the process. We ask him to bring forward anything that he thought would likely get to 50 and get the board's approval in advance since workday will stop it when you get to that one that takes you from 45 to 52 once you cross 50. So, these are four things that he does every year. They might get to 50, they might stop in the high 40s, they might get into the 50s. We're just looking for board approval. But if we get there, we can keep going.

Yeah. No. And I don't have a problem with that. I just It's like, you know, if we hit I mean, if we give it for over 50, I mean, we're not setting a ceiling though either. So, it's like if it hits 100, then wouldn't we want to know, you know? Well, the the budget will set a ceiling. We will be watching the run rate on the budget and be presenting that to the board. Okay. Monthly. So if we start seeing something a skew Yeah. Um you will be seeing that well in advance. Yeah. How will we see it to that level? We won't see it to kind of level. I don't

Well, we so we normally these are quarterly or semianual um that we do. So we would to accumulate a value of that it would have to be something very catastrophic that I would have to come brief the board on for that repair approval anyway. So it's like over time these may hit that limit. They may not. So I just want I just didn't want to especially on the HBAC repair side. I didn't want to get in a situation where workday would stop me doing right. No, when those things happen, you need to you need to take care of it right away. So, no, I understand that

it's highly unlikely if I ever hit anything over that 50 that was a major catastrophic repair, I'd have or or do an emergency wrap for that. Okay. I just I just want to be cognizant of upper limits. Yes. Yes. I will talk with Tessa and Jason, see if we can call this line out or anytime we make an approval like this, if there's a way we can call it out on the reports and then see if that will solve what the problem you're addressing that could happen. Yeah, I think that's where I mean I just don't want to get in the situation where it's like, oh, we approved it to go over so

in March and come November, we're at 300,000. Yeah. But and it's not meill or any of that or items. It's just any as as this is now an issue with workday. I'm assuming we're going to be getting more of these possibly. Yes. So I just want to be honest with what we think the reality should be for, you know, I don't want to stop, you know. No, no, it's it's I mean air conditioner repaired when it's 100 degrees outside.

Yes. Yeah. It's it's I mean it's watching it's the way that we monitor our budget throughout the year. But I just knew on these ones here we have hit that 50,000 mark. We've had a couple of the inspections we've had some major items. We had a major backflow that we had to do on the fire riser repair that you know was kind of one of those unforeseen a couple years back. But for that year it took me over the 50,000 with the testing and the repairs combined. So, these are these are the only items that I found like that that aren't under contracts. I mean, I'm good with it. I Okay,

I think we just got to look at the round. We'll look at options and report back. Yeah. Any other questions? I agree with your concerns and agree with the plan.

Thank you. takes us to Mount Zerore. Said all day. Morning, commissioners. Appreciate your time this morning. It's vacation season. Oh, we're gonna Do we have the other one? I'll start with this one. Do you have the other PowerPoint for all the vacations? Good deal. Thank you, Ron. All right, so it's vacation season, not the fun kind, the road vacations. First one is up in Micah. You can see southwest of the county on the vicinity map. And it's across Highway 27 from Micah. And the request comes from John Consul. He's the owner of Integrity Excavation out that way if you're familiar with him. and he's requesting the vacation of these two rightaways shown in red. And we we do not object. The parcels to the west have alternate access. They have easement access. That's been verified. And the the road is not open. There's really nothing there. So, we support that vacation. Um and as does wash. Nobody's opposing it. And happy to answer any questions on

that. Okay. our next one. So, going out west now. You can see on the vicindi map, we're out on Clear Lake and there's an old plat along the east side of the lake and there's a bunch of unopened rideways. People are wanting to live out there now. So, after 100 years, they're starting to develop on these lots and the rideways are not where they they should be to allow for development essentially. We've kind of moved through a number of vacations on Lake View Boulevard, kind of working north to south and also south to north. This piece in the middle, there's topographic issues that you can't tell from the aerial, but there's no ready connection here. It's it's topographically limited and frankly we don't need it because we have Clear Lake Road right there to the east. So, we would support the recommendation to vacate this section right away. Historically, we've asked them to replace that right away. you know, the ones further to the east, you can see where they're lined up, but again, there's no ability to connect on this, so we're not asking for that. There's there's enough access. We don't need a second access point. So, we would support vacating this section roadway and happy to answer any questions regarding it. All right. Thank you. Next one. This one I'm going to brief you about. It's actually on hold right now. This is Seven Mile on Trails Road, Old Trails, and it goes through the OV park. This is kind of in the middle of the OV park if you're familiar with it. That's their parking lot kind of towards the north end of the aerial on the right side of the road. And parks is doing a lot of work here, State Parks. They're going to build a new parking area and unloading area and facilities just south of the red portion that we're showing to be vacated. um they they want this vacation

at the local level. They're just going through their own processes to get the approval to accept that vacation portion right away. It works better with their plan. We don't need the rightway. This road's built if you've driven it. It used to be basically a dirt road and very poor level of service. 10, 15 years ago, we rebuilt it. It's a very nice road now. It's a very wellused connection. We'll actually be coming back to the board with some additional changes. They're going to rename the roadway. They're going to change the speed limits and all of that to make it a better connection essentially in the transportation sense. The parks department supports all of that. So, you know, we'll be back before you with those other recommendations regarding traffic. But this one will come back. Um I can brief you again later depending on how long it takes, but we anticipate it coming back before too long. And we support this vacation. Frankly, I don't even know why it was there. probably was some need from the old alignment of the road before we redid it. But our roads built to what we anticipate it be needing to be built for in the future. Any questions? Okay, next one. Back out west again, this is you can see I90 running diagonal through the the Cindy map. You can see Granite Lake there on the right side. And again, we have an old plat um turn of the century plat. And these are 20 foot wide rideways which frankly aren't even buildable in our world and they aren't where we would even build them. This area has a lot of wetlands and critical areas. And the person asking for it um owns all those properties that you show there. And we fully support removing these rightways. They will grant additional access and easements and rideways as needed as they develop. And these just aren't in the right place to facilitate any of that. And they own all of it. So there's no access issues. Have to answer any questions.

Okay, next one. So the last one is up. This is Northwest Christian's campus if you're familiar with where that is up in North Spokane. And they own both sides of this rideway. They own the property hatched in blue there. And the proposal is to vacate the red portion of rideway. It's called Trevor Road. It's It's essentially unopened and we have no need for it. It goes right into their campus and all the other parcels behind it have alternate access to other rideways. And this goes with the next one. If you want to do the next one, Ron, we have a a one- foot strip. You're familiar with what those are. It's essentially how we used to do access control to our public rideways essentially. So if somebody fronted on a rideway, they would have to come talk to us before they could access a ride ofway because rightway is out in the middle of the field. They're public rightways. So people could access them without coming and having a conversation with us and seeing what improvements might need to be made. So this is kind of an old thing where we granted these one-ft strips and what we have to do is we have to actually dedicate this one strip as right ofway and then immediately vacate it. will probably all be at the same same legislative session and we'll just do one followed immediately by the other just to clean it up because we don't want to have this one foot strip out in the middle of the property after it's all said and done. Okay. Uh one more. We're kind of just in that Salt Greenwood Grove area just up on the the West Plains but very close to town if you're familiar with that area. And again, another old plat. This one was actually vacated by the non-user statute back around the turn of the century. This vacation is just how we formalize acknowledging that that right away has been vacated. Um, it was through process

of law. It's already been v vacated, but they either have to pursue it in court or we can just vacate it and clean it up that way. And if we don't have a need, we just usually go through the effort of vacating it. and that way they formally get the property back without having to go through a court action. But we definitely do not need this one. Happy to answer any questions. Yep. No, we we support these. We don't anticipate any resistance from the public regarding them and the people that had access those are the ones petitioning. Okay. Thanks. And I think we got one more. Thank you, Ron. Uh, next slide. So, the road fund owns this parcel that that red outline wraps around. We own that intersection of market and magnesium. We had purchased it, I believe, to do this realignment work when we realigned magnesium to bring it down. This goes down a pretty steep slope. The additional area shown in red there is us granting ourselves an easement so that we have the slope within our rideway in case we need to do any work on the road. We're going to surplus that parcel will be back to you to request surplusing it. It's a very valuable piece of property. I mean it's at the intersection of market and magnesium. And we had bought it at one point in time thinking we may build a shop there. We've gone another direction. We have our two shops up north that take care of our needs. And frankly, it's a nuisance, a huge nuisance. It it gets an incredible amount of dumping on it that we're constantly chasing. We've tried to block it out. People camp there. I mean, it's it's a nuisance property. We we are not great landlords. That's I believe the board's aware of. So, we're wanting to surplus this sooner than later. It's a

really nice piece of property. It'll be great for somebody to develop, but just not us. So we we're just granting ourselves an easement so we have the property rights and we wouldn't have to go back to some future owner and try and get rights if we need to do something on our own roadway. So we're going to be granting ourselves the res. Correct. Yep. Yep. The reset. Correct. Yeah. It's essentially a slow easement like we would get on a new project. We just don't want to come back. Happy to answer any questions. Okay. Thank you. appreciate your time. Have a good day.

I'll end.

Good morning, commissioners. Uh this is just a status update on the short-term interim action work plan that was required by ecology last month. Um this is a a collaboratively built presentation that's going to be shared with both the city council which was done yesterday here with the commissioners today and the airport board will also all have the same update as the three parties worked collaboratively to put this together. As you know, a little background, um, airport was, uh, listed as a PASS site a few years ago. They've been working on their investigation work, um, and have reports that have been recently submitted to the Department of Ecology. We've been, uh, added in as potentially liable parties as of last summer. And then we signed the agreed order as that got all worked out in January of this year. Um, that public comment period just recently expired. uh on March 9th and during that public comment period after we signed the agreed order uh we were uh notice to have a short-term emergency interim actions. So that plan was due last Friday on the 20th um and was submitted. It's currently under review by the Department of Ecology. They have a week seven days uh to review that plan and provide any comments or changes they would like to see in it. Um, so we're just giving everybody an update that the plan's been submitted and what's in that plan. So here's the area outlined in the emergency interim action. Um, there's about 2,000 parcels that are currently on municipal water provided by the city of Spokane. There's another 2,000 parcels roughly that are vacant and so about 900 properties and buildings that

are likely on permanent exempt wells. So, uh about 900 properties will be the focus of the work in the work plan and really it's just prioritizing public health. That's everything that's in here.

Just a question. the the area is that that is the area as defined by ecologies orders. Exactly. Okay. Thank you.

So, one of the components about this is immediate access to clean water. That is not one of it's the primarily speaking here. Um so one of the things that we put forth in this is new opportunities for residents in the area. Uh as you may know uh the department of health has been providing bottled water and um under sink filters to many of these residents. What they haven't had access to is water at scale um particularly for outdoor use gardens livestock things like that. So, uh, making the city's Garden Springs filling station available to folks. And we're also going to provide containers. Uh, another, uh, component of this, too, is just not putting a bunch more plastic out into the environment and having something that's a more sustainable path for clean drinking water. And then also providing filter pictures, which hasn't been provided in the past. This is another component that we've heard from the public is when they have one under sink filter in the kitchen, you know, they've got to go back to the kitchen to go get clean water to brush their teeth and into the bathroom. So, that's the nice thing about having the countertop filters um additionally available that haven't been um uh provided as of yet is that they can be put in different locations around the house. Um and this is really just the bridge component to our poet system installations. Um and uh the plan also talks to u filter replacements for those that already do have the unders filters. Um we're also not going to wait. So these will be made available to folks regardless of whether they've had a test, regardless of whether they can prove their contamination. If they're in the area and they're on a well, we're going to get them clean water. So we will be doing a lot of testing throughout this plan. Um kind of making

a systematic approach so that we can uh get high quality testing done and really understand the extent of any contamination out in the area here. Uh but we're not going to wait for that to get water to people. Uh we will be getting testing started right away. Um but there's a lot of testing to do and um there's a lag to getting results and analyzing the data. So we just want to make sure people have been drinking water immediately. Uh there's a lot of communication components within the work plan. Um the navigators being a very unique uh opportunity that we have where we actually have two individuals um that can really be those point of contacts for folks and boots on the ground. Uh and then we have we're just going to leverage it. I mean we have three large organizations with a lot of communication capabilities. Uh we're being very uh collaborative with our partners, making sure everybody's using the same messaging. Everybody is uh trying to make it as easy as possible for the residents uh that are impacted so that they're not trying to figure out who to call, who to contact um and getting information out there. We'll have some public events um that are likely to follow here once we have our comments back from ecology. Um but getting the word out is a big part of the plan. Um so next is waiting for those comments from ecology working through those with them. Um they have to approve them before implementation can begin or have to approve a plan. Uh we're trying to get additional resources. So we have already applied or been put in a MKA grant ask uh the city of Spokane applied for the alternative drinking water grant. Um, and there's some additional opportunities. We're looking, we're kicking every rock we can to find some additional resources to bring to bear here. Um, you know, we're going to need more to deploy it systems and municipal

water connections that are going to be required in that long-term plan. Um, and then, you know, we pretty much have to immediately pick our pencils back up and get working on that long-term plan because that's due in May. So we're right we're we have to be doing all this in parallel delivering on the interimm action plan the short term developing the long term obviously we don't have time to wait on the pullet systems those need to go so those will be going well you know before the long-term plans finalized uh but we know it's a component of it we know we've got to deliver that in a short amount of time so that's continuing to work along with that site assessment and work plan uh related to the testing Any questions I can answer or kick to Ben? He knows this better than I do.

Whoever can answer. Uh, no, that's I think that's looks like an excellent plan. So, good job putting together very quickly with the city um some short-term actions that we can take. I guess I'm wondering if there's any new updated info on how far we think that 7.5 million will go in terms of how many properties. You know, we we had a guesstimate when we went to the state and asked for the capital funds and we know we're going to need more to support more um property owners that might need access. So, I was just wondering if we have any new info on um kind of the cost per wellhead.

Short answer, uh no, we don't. So, our we're working on it though. Our contractor, Northwind, that was selected as most qualified from the RFQ is out there this week um visiting um prior to signing a contract is visiting to get the an understanding of some example houses and what those might cost. And so we're trying to um get the scope and fee developed to get them working. Um we've continued to ask that question. They're real hesitant to provide a a specific answer because of um we start them doing math and then we start to try to hold them to that. And so they haven't provided that number, but they're looking into that uh this week to to get that going. And the expectation is that it's going to be a big variable. Every house, every well is different. Amount of water they're using is different. the suitability of a location for the installation of the bullet systems there. We expect a a a large range of different build costs. So, I think we're going to really need to kind of see it's going to take some time to get the low end of that range, the high end of that range, what's our average um and that's going to take a lot of uh time on the ground to get there. So we'll soon be able to I think provide you some what are the first few systems going to cost but not knowing the extent of what each and every location is going to look like. I I can't even give you an average right now.

So So this contractor they're looking at what would be the appropriate technology or they're going to provide the the actual technology the wellhead filters. So the contractor will provide the filtration system and it's a a modular system. So, okay,

it's just it can be sized for the water use in the building. They have experience at other sites doing this, installing filters for private houses and making them variable variable sizes depending on the water use for the home. Um, but no, they have the the equipment. It's and it's not really proprietary. It's it's cylinders that several cylinders that go near the wellhead with a media in their carbon media that take the PASS out and then the water goes in in for use. And so the the technology is defined. They just have to figure out all of the some some might need new electrical systems, some might need new sheds, um heaters, kind of all the the challenges of installing these on all the different homes. Every home is different, right? They're using their water use differently. So, but really that the the the technology is there. It's just what scale will be installed is the key step and that's why they're there to look this week to start to get an understanding.

Great. Thank you.

And why we think there'll be some similarities in systems. It will come down to some of the individual test results of the water because for that PASS filtration system to function properly, there may need to be some preiltration um components that you add in basically in line. So these things all work in series um with usually the PAS component kind of being the last, but you got to kind of get the water ready to have the PAS. Um and these are um what's the term the capture versus uh um yeah so so there's different technologies. One is the one that we're using is one that captures the PAS. There's an option for reverse osmosis systems that are that can be used actually put the put the PAS back into the waste disposal solar septic system there. And so um which can then lead to just continued pollution. So we're not using that. We're using a system that's that's capturing and then the media has to be disposed of appropriately um once it's exhausted at the end of the time. Thanks for your work on this. Can you just say a little bit more about what's contemplated in terms of like a testing strategy at this point? You your slides kind of alluded to that.

Yeah, I think the big part is What? appreciate all your hard work on this, but you guys have done it quickly and well, so that's going to take us to uh Thank you, Madam Chair. Commissioners, this is a request to accept a grant award for the prosecutor's office victim witness domestic violence personnel. So, this is a 33,574 award from Washington State Department of Commerce, Office of Crime Victims. It is for victim witness domestic violence services such as advocacy for domestic violence victims and witnesses. Courtroom support and preparation, safety planning, assistance with protection and no contact orders, crime victims compensation, and referrals to other service agencies. Really valuable services for victims of domestic violence. The award is 33,574.

There are indirect costs included and our recommendation is that you grant acceptance of this award.

Sounds good to me. Yeah, I agree. Uh, I just I wanted to note that I I ran into some folks from we used to work at Lutheran Community Services. And if you remember, part of our legislative agenda was to try and push the state to put some more funding into this pot because the federal government funds have gone down. And uh, from what I heard, they were successful in in increasing the dollar amount for these services. So hopefully next year the grant will be a little larger. Thank you. That's gonna take us to Spart Mike Spar.

Maybe more. Oh, okay. Um, yeah. And I' I've got a miscellaneous as well. So, we can do some miscellaneous here in the meantime. Okay. Since we're off schedule anyway. It's one of those days. recommend it, but it's Tuesday. Ahead schedule ahead. It's a good thing. Yeah, it's good.

So, just a heads heads up, Ron sent around this morning an email to each of you. The governor is scheduled to sign the waste energy bill tomorrow. So, that is a positive for for us. And all of our federal requests are in. Want to say thank you to Ron for his help on that. Rounding up letters and I'm working closely with Colton getting stuff done. But that's the the Thorp Road into the second gate access to Fairchild to Bombgardner's office and then the up river centennial corridor project that went to both senators Mar and Katwa. So all of that is submitted and now we wait um a couple months before we start hearing committee process. And then just one other update. I know several of you have been receiving some emails on the Gateway dog park. Um you'll recall in the budget process last fall. Um Doug Chase, parks director, came in and that was one of the proposals primarily for the reason we do not own the property. It's a lease with the state. And so the thought was, let's focus on the parks that we actually own and have a long-term investment with. This is also kind of a little bit of an odd piece of property when you think of a park. It's the old highway rest stop at state line. So it's right on the freeway, road noise. It does include though some gravel parking for river access. So there is that aspect. the the grassy area that used to be kind of the take your little dog out and run around area or let the kids get some energy out when you're doing a road trip has been fenced and that's created I believe a little over a 3 acre um dog park where the dogs are disrup

um somewhat popular. It is one of the only ones in that section of the county. So closing the park would precipitate closing that. Um Doug and his office were working on some plans. Um however, we have some volunteers who work at Scraps who also volunteer to do some of the cleaning of the dog park um with a waste and such and they got word of this. They put up a sign. Um so that's why I've been getting the community feedback in the article you probably saw in the paper over the weekend. Doug was um on vacation. A lovely trip to Europe last week. Murphy's law. This all happened while he was out of the country. Uh we have talked yesterday. I was like, "Welcome back." Um did talk with his staff last week. They have already been in communication with DOT. And then Fish and Wildlife is also there because that's where they do the boat checks from issues on boats, bringing stuff you don't want back and forth. Um so they've already been talking to DOT to see if there's a possibility to leave the park open. You There's not a high cost except for when people drive into the fence which has happened um every few years Doug said. So we are looking at alternatives. Nothing is solidified or guaranteed at this point. Doug has some conversations with higher ups at DOT this week. um hopefully people who are at levels who can make those kinds of decisions and he will plan on being here uh next Tuesday to provide an update based on what you learn this. So just wanted you all to know um a lot of awareness both in the community and at the county. Doug and his team are working on this and I think doing everything possible at this

point. and then he'll bring it forward next week. You guys can hear what the options are and we'll move forward accordingly. The lease don't remember the exact date, but it's roughly a month from today. I want to say April 21st is when the lease is up, but hold me to that exact date.

Yeah, I'll just state that. I mean, I've had numerous methods from my district, numerous calls and emails um that Brenda has been taking great care of. Um, so I think it's just one of those unintended consequences that we didn't engage in the use that was getting that would happen. I think at the briefing we were not aware that it was the dog park or used at the dog park. Um, and so yeah, been as soon as that sign went up that many of us who put the sign up saying the park was closed, uh, there was a lot of outcry. So yeah, again, I think one of those unintended consequences. I'm not sure how much it's really costing us or or not today.

And um kudos to Brenda. She has actually she found the the individual put up the sign, had a good conversation with him. The sign is now down. Um we're appreciative that we're looking at other options. you may be getting more emails that of course um dog parks are hard to come by and people who use them are going to be true. Can I ask so when when Doug brought that forward it was that it was a $32,000 in savings? Is that the amount that we give to do for them to allow us to allow the public to access this property? Is that what the $32,000

That was all of our assumptions. In talking with Doug yesterday, I learned we actually don't pay for the lease. So, because it's a government to government, um they're granting us a Z usage lease. So, it's probably a more legal term for it. But, um the 32,000 is our cost to actually operate and run. They have historically mowed two to three times in the spring. Once the they don't water. So as grass turns brown and quits growing in the summer, there's not a lot of mowing. As I mentioned earlier, he says every other year, give or take, there's been a driver who for whatever reason backed or ran into the fence and they've had to repair the fence to keep the the park completely circled for the dogs. Um we do have believe it's around 3500 a year in waste removal. Just it's an assumption on my part but it's probably like waste management dumping and dumping the dumpster that's going to be mostly you know dog waste. We we have some volunteers. I believe they're mostly scraps volunteers who are doubling up as volunteers to keep the park in good in good condition. I've heard like at least two days a week, Wednesday, Tuesday, and Friday. There's some volunteers that go out and do that. So, it is being ran based on the information I'm getting fairly affordably for what it is. But up until yesterday, I assumed that was the cost of the lease. No, we know that's not the case. It's just the operational cost.

I just I I have a hard time believing it costs us $32,000 a year to mow the grass three times a year. and empty the garbage. I did ask Doug in his presentation next week to go back the last two to three years and actually do a line item of a breakout of the mid 2000 so the board can see exactly what that has covered.

Thank you. Yeah, I think um because my office has gotten questions too since the news article and the signs. Um I think there was maybe a misunderstanding about like what you're saying that we were paying the state. Those were just costs that we were incurring to to maintain, you know, but it it uh maybe there's a medium uh a medium ground that we can find where we have another day that volunteers can come out and help maintain. And um it would be, you know, I didn't know it was a dog park, so it's good to know. I guess we find these things out. And to Doug's credit, when we went back and looked at the powerpoints from last year, it is right there plain as day, but I would say it's one none of us gravitated to and it wasn't called out. And so, you know, there's just a lot of details going by in budget and this is one that um just got overlooked for whatever reason, but Doug is looking for those creative options like you just suggested to see. Is there something we can do working with the state? Well, and that's the thing I I think it's important the state know that it has value. It's it's the state's land

and I don't think they would want to see it just with no maintenance or else they're going to have to make I mean, not that they would have to maintain the the park, but if people start throwing junk and trash and it's going to become a nuisance site for the state as well. So, there's a benefit. Having people there can be a benefit. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. No, because I I've heard that, you know, the volunteers actually help to to keep people from property. So potentially if if we don't do anything with it, it could be coming property. So creating way. So, um I think again it's just one of those things that they don't always understand the internal consequences of the decisions that are making and so it's been brought to our attention to try to figure out how we can make it. I I want to echo what both uh Commissioner Brooks and Waldruff have said when I've so I I actually had a conversation with someone I I know really well that I says they spend 300 days a year at this park. They they regularly attend and they uh they told me that it is a it is a very tight-knit community that uses this and she indicated that they always pick up trash. like they they we have a community that uses this that like has really taken ownership in this property and helped keep it clean. Um help pick up the trash and all that. So I mean I think that's just another benefit that you know quite frankly there's the community has found a way to to also keep this this park um you know in in top shape you know as as much as possible. But I mean yeah there are things out of our hands if someone runs into the fence. I mean let's just let's just hope that doesn't happen. And I think we can keep the cost of this of this park uh you know pretty low quite frankly.

That's it for my miscellaneous.

Okay. Thank you. Well, we have the COG coming up next week. So I have a draft agenda. I'm going to hear that. Um it is draft. Uh, Commissioner and Jordan and I have kind of talked through what um, you know, since we know the COG is, you know, really to try to have the safe and healthy task force give an update to, uh, all of our elected stakeholders. Um, that's the true purpose. Uh, we may have a couple of others I know that aren't on here, but I know Tim wanted five minutes and so did uh, assessment codes. So, I would probably be adding them to this as well at the start. Um, but this is kind of what we have at this weekly toate. Now, you may need to approve at least head on officially the agenda for the make sure a draft and that's that's the only other changes I think that I would see would just be adding those two. So, so I'll probably like a little miscellaneous for other elected.

Yeah. And I think it'll be I think it'll be good for everyone at the council governments to see that the the MIG consulting firm has been kind of leading the process. It'll be good to have them there. They'll be in person kind of being a part of the presentation it sounds like. And then I think the task force committee updates is uh an opportunity to hear from some of the members of the safe and healthy task force and kind of have they'll have a little bit of a panel discussion. Um so hopefully it'll be a good snapshot of where that process is at and an opportunity to ask questions um and then hear from a few key jurisdictional leaders maybe about what we hope to see from it. So I think it'll be a good good event.

Yeah. and is at center place. Um our the fairgrounds was not available. Um but the city of uh Spokane Valley is is uh comping us and hosting the the event their location. I'm not sure the coffee and water service. I mean we may have to be putting that piece up, but um we are just going to be having coffee and water. I don't have any other food. They have a caterer that um is contracted. So we're not going to be able to bring in anything. So, it would just be copying one. Okay.

One other item just came to mind. As you're looking over the next month of meetings, we meet next week, then you're off a week for spring break, then there's a meeting week, and then off again for the gsi trip. So, if anyone has timely issues to get before the board, we're going in the next five weeks. we meet don't weak meet don't meet the need. So, just know we're as as people are planning things, take that into consideration the next few weeks. And we do so we do have a strategic planning meeting planned for the 13th

the 13th 14th we have and then we have another one on the 27th and we're back. I think you did move those. Yeah. Just a bit. So, so I think we should be able to handle everything with those, but if something is super timely, there might be a couple requests to do a morning briefing 2 pm if something is super timely. Um, we'll see if it comes to that and we'll be sure and give you guys adequate time to make your decision. We just want to call that to their attention.

Yeah, I agree. I think if stuff that's timely I mean you can we we do that as an on an exception basis and this will be kind of those times to do that because we can always it's always better to put it on the two o'clock and we can strike it versus Okay. Um any other mis items you can move for us. Okay. Oh, I just want to say happy opening week. Happy opening day week. Baseball is back. The Mariners are expecting

in first place looking good. This is our year and there's hope. That's all I have to say.

Hope is eternal in in spring spring uh sports. So, yes, go Mariners. Anything else? Okay. So, then we're done with our miscellaneous then. I see Mr. Barber. We'll come back to that. Okay, Nate and I will share this with you.

Okay. Um, good morning. Good to see you all. Um, so today we have another exciting milestone in the crisis and sobering uh project. It's actually the GMP. And so we want to talk through some of the process of how we got here and some of the things that we'd like to look at going going forward for the crisis so center. First I'll have Nate go ahead and introduce yourself. He's our owner's rep. Hi Nate Brazil with Turner Townson here. So been working with you guys since the beginning from Hill to Turner Thompson and following the project from inception. Well, we're sure happy to have him. He's been a joy to work with. I think the joke we have that stays in us.

Yes, it's very helpful. Yeah. So anyway, um if you recall the original resolution that we had was a placeholder for the crisis relief and so center which was um for 12 million9 and then we didn't know the exact square footage and how it was going to lay out other property. So we started off with something and on the first resolution that's how we started with 129 and then we moved to the um validation phase and through the design phase so that the cost went up and so we want to show you some of the details of the cost as we make our way to the GMV.

Yeah. So essentially through the through the process of the validation we realized that the scope the the program that the project needed plus the square footage the location how we're going to incorporate the new building into the existing CSU project or facility and then uh the turning market was kind of growing at that point. So at the end of the validation the numbers came in from the design build team at 13.146. So turning a little bit higher than what was originally estimated at 12.9. We felt fairly confident that they would be right around that 12.913 milestone as the project moved forward. And then throughout the validation design process, the design build team tried to put in some u what we consider be value engineering efforts into the mechanical system which is a EAB system without getting the details of that which would have been a little bit cheaper build but doesn't have necessarily the integrity that the county was looking for. I can let Bill speak on this. Uh essentially what was asked at that point was uh some additional funds to move over to the project. So we there was an agreement of roughly 500,000 moving the GMP now to 13.4 um to the uh to try to accommodate the four pipe system which for the design built team was still kind of a challenge to accomplish to meet the program the space needs the design itself uh with the kind of escalating construction cost of it. um the fourpipe system is really more important and I'll let D speak to the the detail of that if he needs.

So the majority of the buildings that we've engineered since we've start you know the last 10 years medical examiner you know shooting range the crisis stabilization center we designed the systems that way so we have alternatives for us in emergency. So for our systems that we operated 247 um the VAV systems when you go to that type of model you lose that emergency ability. Once they go down they're down. It's a lot similar and it just I mean in reference it's a lot similar to your your house unit that you have. Once the AC side of it goes down, if it has some type of catastrophic failure, especially when it comes to the refrigeration side of it, the system is down. So in in HVAC language, they become burnt systems. So they literally have to be completely reworked. So now you're it's down. You're looking for parts. You don't know what the time frame is to bring it back up. So for these these B these entities that we run 247 we design the four pipe systems so we have alternatives in those situations. So and it gives us also the ability to engineer them to where we can work on them outside of not having to disturb the operation. We don't there's no patient uh technician interface. It's all done outside of that area. And that's kind of been the model for the last 10 years that we've used. And we've literally had 100% success rate. You really haven't had to do anything that disrupts the operation.

Sorry. Um, so we just need to make sure that that's in our specs because that wasn't in the specs, right? They they are they are in our specs and those are what we originally looked I think that this was just a cost cutting measure when they were looking at other options on how to lower the price.

Right. Yes. So one of the challenges on a progressive design build is there's a budget. We're trying to build a project to the scope of it. And so as one can imagine if everybody has a wish list and a want list and that just keeps growing and growing growing. The design team is doing the best they could to try to accommodate everybody's wish list so to speak. And as one can imagine, you know, the price just keeps growing and growing and growing. So as the the overall facility itself is kind of like the foundation and it's growing and blossoming almost into this beautiful project, they're also trying to figure out where can we save money and still give everybody what they want. So that was one of the efforts that they proposed is we believe we can do this with a VAB system versus a full patch system. So oftent times you'll see this in progressive design build is you know yes there are some standards or you know the the specs if you want to consider that but they also try to like find avenues to where they can they'll try to achieve the same goal while using a different product

in the 247 and that's the main reason that's the main reason for those designs the systems that I worked on prior to coming to the county they were 247 seven operations and that wasn't referred to for any type of environment.

Yeah. And for Bill Gill's comment, you know, it does really make sense for an environment of this nature where it is truly a 247 operational building where we don't have weekends and off, you know, after five to surface crews in there to to replace or repair certain items that are crucial to our environment. So with Yeah. Uh so with that kind of being said, uh through the progression of that, then once we do get through the final design of it, um working out all of the uh the needs, the wants, and the program requirements for this project, meeting of the DO department health standards and department, the final GMP from the design build came in at 1375295 as as you can see on the screen up there for the total. And that is inclusive of basically all all said things outside of the what would consider betterments or upgrades to the project as well. There's a couple betterments that were included and most part this is really inside the courtyard of the design of the project itself. Uh currently right now is the drawings are what is shown through the construction is kind of a a concrete slab out there for furniture to be placed on. Um but there's not any real u added detail for that. And so we've throughout the design conversations we've talked about the importance of having an environment on the the actual courtyard that is more conducive to the therapeutic side. This is where Justin shines on this conversation. Brought me in to ask my bill.

You brought in the ringer.

Yeah. Uh so that is initially back when we were looking at the existing facility and the use of outdoor space. It was a tiny I don't if anyone had seen that one but it was a 8 by uh 6 foot or 10 foot section uh that was provided mostly for outdoor smoking and really didn't provide for individuals to have engagement or therapeutic space to see the out outdoors. And as you can see all the windows being frosted. there isn't an ability at this point in time for individuals in the entire facility to have engagement with the outdoors while they're staying with the so big focus on this was we know we needed to have outdoor space for the for the 60 plus bed that will be at this one and will be centrally located within the facility instead of just having a concrete box uh the design around adding additional therapeutic items including a walk space uh that will border along the side of the we found with individuals who are in treatment and are often withdrawing from substances and uh maybe uh nicotine uh they need and are agitated space to be able to walk around and having a walk space that provides that in a safe location and visually appealing is also beneficial for their therapeutic uh engagement. The second aspect is places to sit and potentially add greenery. So these are all areas that we've as we look at the central location will serve the entirety of it. We increase the space almost three-fold. Uh and we would like to put in more seating and special seating that be safe for the individuals uh being out there. They'll always be monitored either by an individual out there, a staff member and by cameras ensuring that the space is further safe. That's expensive for the equipment as well as the uh items being rented. So that's another area that increased the cost of the outdoor. And then also it's an open internal space. So ensuring that it's clear during the winter for snow

and ice accumulation is also a key uh design is another aspect that we're cost additional for that. So those are areas that we'd like are the betterments that we do believe for a one-time at least for the improvements initially for that space is beneficial for the long-term vision of the facility is as well as the service of the individuals that will be residing there and it will serve all individuals in the management procuring residential and stabilization not just next slide. One more. Take a look at the budget here. You could see that our overall funding streams are on the lower left and that's what we're operating within. And um so I'm trying to adhere as close as I can to the GMP and then be mindful of some of the betterments that have to take place as well. understand that that's the total project cost. That's with lab procurement, FFV and all the other functions that have to go into it permitting and everything else. That's the total project that we're looking at. We're estimating that we're going to be around the 18 million range. I think all said and done. Is that correct?

And this is without the without the betterments. Well, the betterment will be on top of that uh that price right there. And then there the GMP is above that portion of it.

Yes. This is essentially to kind of show the breakout of the upper upper top right the blue one is that's the GMP itself the the construction side of it as far as what we had with the validation cost of it the small little green slice through the design and what considered sign precon um and there's a few kind of early onboard consultants through that process to uh get to build the team essentially with the mechanical and electrical onboarding team members on that one and then uh showing what the actual construction side is going to be with the general condition general funding score which all inclusive of that and then sales tax.

Yeah. And then the the lower red pie essentially shows all of the breakout from the GMP and the majority of it the sales tax and again including what the sales tax is for this construction cost but the other side will show the overall cost with betterments as well. We'd we'd like to believe anyways that everything is covered as far as the FFIP contingency, sales tax, soft cost, hard cost, and any miscellaneous anything.

Oh, I was just going to note that I do believe we received or I guess once the budget is signed by the state, we're receiving 730,000 and that'll be 773. Oh, that's higher than I thought. Exactly. And so that'll be added to the blue piece of the pie, right? So it' be 3 million um 773. So I just you should probably reflect that. Yeah, because that that's a big chunk increase. I didn't include it because it wasn't done yet, but Right.

I know. I know. But I don't want to lose that that we do that we really benefited from hopefully the state um supporting us with those dollars. So that helps with some of the I am self that's makes it fair. Yeah. Yeah. And I just be cautious because if it's coming from commerce they take their 10% or that's true. There might be a little off the top master there but it started at 773. Okay. But we want to make sure that this just reflects what we're actually going to be. Once we get that official number we'll put it in there. Sure. So you have one more slide. One more slide. Yeah. Yep.

On the the funding streams. Is that referring to authorized things that we've already authorized? Okay. Within the budget, we have a hold on the 10 million in mental health and the five million of opioid that's reserved for this function only, which is what I'm operating within that. Yeah. Next slide. And and on the funding streams, it's like the federal money is no longer pending, right? Or is it still? No, the the that that part of the budget did pass. Okay.

So, the federal money that the two threes are I don't believe we have any paperwork on them yet. I'm looking at Heather, she's confirming that. So, we're still waiting to start setting up contracts. And the federal was just passed what a month or so ago or within the last month and we still have to fill out all the paperwork and jump through the hoops but it but it should be there. And then do we get the full funding on that 3 million or do they took a cut? Do the feds take a cut also? We get the full three on the federal. Very good. Thank you. And one thing to note is that they have the parameter limitation timeline that we're going to move it to the project. One more.

There should be one more one more strike, Mr. Walder. So that on the the that's the 18, but in my packet it goes 19. That's with the betterness. That should be Yeah, the last slide with the better. Oh, okay. So, um, so one thing I I when I talked with Justin, gosh, months ago about my visit to the Columbia Valley, uh, project that is a crisis center being developed in the Tri Cities,

they they had um they really reached out to some private um partners to help fund maybe areas that weren't necessarily necessary, but could add a a lot of value to the project like outdoor spaces, a family gathering space when people go to visit their family members that are in the facility. Um, I don't remember exactly why they couldn't use certain dollars for it, but it might have been it wasn't Medicaid eligible or something. Um, but I was just wondering if we thought about reaching out to any of our um, private partners to sponsor the courtyard as a investment in the project. I was thinking some of the um, companies that provide Medicaid, you know, insurance. Um, I just, you know, I I'm all for using our public dollars and we have, you know, our opioid settlement funds and we we went and asked for state and federal support. Just wondering if we've thought about some private um contribution for the courtyard because it's a very specific thing. It could be named. It's it's something that and it could be um I think it would be some a source of pride. I remember hearing from several different um healthcare companies that were investing in the one in Columbia Valley wondering what what we were working on. So, just a thought

and I just want to piggyback on that that as an idea, some of our local health systems have like community benefit funds or like regular regular annual grants that they give out and this project is going to benefit some of those systems from by diverting people from ERS, etc. So, I think they'd be a good candidate to be in dialogue with.

Absolutely. And we I I took the tour down there. I've been in conversation with them. They took a different approach. They didn't have within those counties the same ASO structure that we have. So the ASO structure here took the lead on getting the funding with the county which was not the methodology they used down there. They had parent coalition that really got the partners together. And it didn't start out with this vision. It got to that point after they toured our facility actually. And so a lot of it was built on that. They are already facing some challenges uh down in dry cities on making that model work especially since long-term sustainability still is in question in terms of who will fund it. Uh but we have been working with Pioneer. So this is something concurrently that we're doing with the provider because we do believe they should take point on a lot of the uh grants and working with community something we're going to partner with who will take the lead on if there are private donations who receives those and passes those through. a little bit more challenging one at the county side and what that structure would look like. Uh but Pioneer will be chasing two uh grants that we've been working on with book commerce which will look for more investment and more improvement in facilities. We're waiting for the last budget here to come through that took a big cut uh in the the ledges budget this year. We do anticipate that they'll be chasing that one. There's some federal grants as well for improvement. So those are all areas uh by which we will be this year. Uh and then also looking at partnerships with private organizations as we have met with some in the community who had voiced their interest in that about coating those together and saying what's the best who will be chasing those on behalf of this facility and work with the county then implement that. Uh I think the thing that we wanted to start with was what's the base, right? We can get ice cleared out from the internal and we have a base for uh the footprint for the walk path. Can they add additional things to this space as well as the entrance way and other rooms that could make that uh more uh

focused to the public? And those are areas that we're looking at improving part of the partnership with. So those are all on the table. We don't have a pathway for that yet. Uh, that's still one of the many things that will be done as we begin working in the city of this year. Justin, c can you what's I I'm sorry if I missed it. What's the size of the outdoor space? How large is it? Uh, I want to say,000 feet. Yeah, around that. Okay. And so you talked about a walking path. What are some of the other amenities that you envision out there? Again, just seating. Okay. that it just 400,000 seems like a lot to me for

it does and we potentially we need to break that up a little bit too. So there's a kind of line item for 108 and that's essentially to do the ice and snow melt. So you know for that concrete area to be able to melt and drain off any you know snow accumulation things like that. So we don't have to

one it's usable all year long and the maintenance side of it is greatly reduced over the long the life of the property right there not getting in there snowblower shovels. How do we remove this x amount of snow? We've had a pretty mild winter this year that for those that don't like skiing are really happy, but the rest of us may not. Um, but the so 300 is really just kind of a target for improvement. U again, walking path, there's going to be potentially landscaping. Uh, so with that landscaping would come a little bit of irrigation, you know, and again, you know what that might look like.

Okay, if if I remember correctly on this the current stabilization center, it's outdoor sort of area. If I remember correctly, it's it's like astroturf, right? Like it's not actual grass, right? Part concrete part. Yeah. Which which I think is probably the the way to go. You don't have to mow it. You don't have to water it. You know, I mean, and it's, you know,

say yeah, we were and the beauty of the like the design builder gets everybody together and we just get a spitball in ideas and see what like works in it. And we do really respect Justin's like, you know, knowledge of like what works for the space. We constantly think about what type of materials and items can be safe extremely low maintenance. Um you know astroturf versus you know law things like that but also when it comes down to these facilities we have to have like pick proof astro turf which costs more than just what you're going to find at say football arena or something that nature.

So that's where that $300,000 comes is it's a design two. The idea behind that is we're going to try to get the best design, the best materials and use out of that money versus saying here's a design and let's put an estimate to that design. Okay? Going to say here's a a bucket of money so to speak is how we use the terms and what best products and best use of this money we put in that space.

Okay. We are still trying to decide if that's irrigation or outdoor. I mean, there was wanting for a garden or therapeutic plant engagement where individuals could work with that. I'm still kind of uh on the fence on whether or not that's be feasible within that arena, especially with the availability of sunlight here. And isn't this a facility where I mean, ideally someone's there less than 24 hours? Well, so that Yeah. So that's the interesting spot. It'll up. Yes. Okay. Essentially located within the facility. So it'll actually abut where the current uh intake is for the vehicles. Okay.

The existing facility and it will actually primarily serve those that have been transferred into the raw management stabilization and co-occurring. Okay. Okay. The individuals who are there for less than 10 hours. You're right. More than likely will not be the primary customer in that. Okay. Space. What's our average length of stay in the current stabilization facility? So in stabilization anywhere from 5 to seven days withdrawal management 7 to 14 days co-occurring residential 15 G to 20.

Okay. Thank you. I'll just say when I went on a tour of the crisis stabilization center a while back I asked some of the staff there if you have one thing to have better outcomes what do you want? And several people said more better outdoor space. So I I do think it is um it's something that the people there have asked for because of the limitations of that urban setting. So I understand that. Um I I would like to see some private entities be asked to support this. I think it's a worthwhile uh bucket of funds to say yes, we're doing this, but I would like to see some requests made to others to help. I think it's a really good opportunity to do that with a with a specific ask around a specific piece of the project that I think everybody can understand that would enhance the recovery setting right of this kind of otherwise concrete situation. Um so I just think it would be a missed opportunity to not have some specific asked out asks out there to some of these larger health groups. That's just my thought. I know it's a hard thing. You guys are buried with many things. Uh so whose job is it to do that? I don't know. But I think it should be somebody's.

I think it'd be in coordination with the commissioner district that it did. Okay. Well, I got one of the best yesterday. I think you got to chase this one down. Maybe we can put my name on the outdoor space that No, I'm happy to dive in and try to help with that. So I I would volunteer myself to help. it is better coming from a commissioner like so so I think coordinating with um Justin as to yeah I mean because we don't want to

fundraising a lot in the past you don't want to ask too many people you know and dilute it so you just want to target as to who you think might have the best opportunity and um you know especially with the hospitals with their community foundation funds um a lot of those are programmed out talking to some of hospital. But um I think it's it's worth asking and it's worth having conversation. I just want to make sure we're doing it in coordination with Justin so he's not so Pioneer isn't going after some and we're asking but it is it is better I think having a commissioner ask I think I've been volunttoled you brought this on yourself.

It's okay if it were it'll be in the meeting minutes. Don't worry. And if it's and if it if it's better going to a 501c3 like Pioneer, maybe just figuring out who the point person at Pioneer is, so that there's a three-way conversation um around the grants that you described, are those for operating or are they for capital?

Uh capital is the one that the commerce there are other operating ones that allow for mixed use. uh the capital ones will be first will be improvement ones that we're hoping that commerce will be putting out this May again depending on the budget. So would those cover some of the costs that are up here? That that's kind that's why we couldn't that's why we're asking for now for this but we are pending that if Pioneer can get those funds and offset any sort of cost movement in the space because that was already part of the plan was that they would do that just didn't coincide with GF. So they're going to apply for some of those

behavioral health facilities grants that correct the state would have but you said that they did reduce the pot of money this year. Yes, that was uh yeah, we don't know to what amount that will actually that that side of the neighbor health facilities,

but anyway, I just yeah, it's a amazing project and would love to give the opportunity for some local healthc care organizations. And so that's my suggestion that whoever at Pioneer is their lead for grants and um community asks to to work with you and I guess Commissioner Jordan, I'm willing to help too. I I could make I have one entity in mind that I could offer up that you probably already thinking about. So absolutely. And I stand ready to support you, Mr. Gordon, and this editor. Hopefully you'll strongly support it. Absolutely.

Very good. Never hurts to ask.

So overall, what we're asking for is the 14 um 14160495 and the resolution that you'll see next Tuesday and we'll have prepared along with the doc documents for it.

I just wanted to check Matt. Did we need to do a resolution? I mean, so partly this is coming before us because uh we were looking at a change order and I'm the signing authority. I wanted to make sure this came before the board first um before I signed that we were increasing. And I think we all knew, you know, that the the 2.9 or 12.9 was was a preliminary number that we we probably go had above that. I mean, just costs costs and you know, all of that go up or things we didn't helpful. Yeah. Yeah. So, I just wanted to make sure that the board was aware before I sign anything um on it. So, I don't know if we need a formal resolution or

we'll want a formal resolution for budget authority. Okay. So, I would probably I mean I'd want to make sure that we allow ourselves room because there still could be cost changes as we know. um that I don't know what that number we really want it to be because I mean I don't want to have that coming back either. So at this point we we have more than enough money reserved, right?

But the way we looked it up last week, the way it was written was the authority to spend was based upon the without betterments number. So what we have reserved and our staff level authority that you guys have given us are two different numbers right now. Right. I mean I would think be at the 21 that's the revenue we know have we have coming in for it. So that's our you know with the maximum limit we want but we also know we're trying to keep it below that for a lot of other reasons. That's just the will of the board.

Yes. I guess I'd be asking the commissioners that you know we you know as as the contracts come in be signing the the contract amount but knowing the total project cost with with the betterments received down here at the 19 million. We know we have 20 mill $21 million set aside I guess I would just say not to exceed the 21 million comfortable. Yeah, that would be make it a lot easier on my side.

Well, I I mean is this project budget with betterments 19 million55 is that our number or is that going to change? That should be all that should be all in. That's our number. That's what I'd like to state to so we can reserve mental health sales tax for operating the facility, you know, as needed with Medicaid changes that we don't really understand how are going to impact us.

Yeah. The the goal right now for how I see it on like the management side of it is that 19 million 55,000 is our kind of all-in number on we have a contingency. So in this point uh on a progressive design build on the owner said that we'd like to tread forecast a 5% contingency as far as what the ownership hold for the overall project. The con contractor has their own contingency for errors and emissions, design issues, uh whatever it may be on the construction side that they get to control. So on that we have roughly $880,000 in contingency. That's the we miss something and that's in the 19. That is in the 19. Yeah.

Yeah. So again this uh helping have everything covered here from experience on this but all the costs everything else that we can foresee happening in the construction all the soft costs all the hard costs all then procurements and the debt the state tax everything that we can forecast at the cost plus the contingency brings us to that 19 million55 and that's with the betterments of adding that $48,000 in there for 108 for the ice melt and 300 to design And fingers crossed that Commissioner Jordan here gets us more money for the outdoor. Exactly. We heard it. What have I done? So,

hey, we've gotten over six million by asking he promised. So, and then yeah, something comes up. Yeah. So, feel like we're getting head nods for the 19 and change number. Yes. I would I would round again we can Yeah. How about 19 million60,000? Yeah. 19.1 that's fine. We'll go 19.1 unless we hear different help change.

And Matt you are saying we would have to do it by resolution which I believe is already prepared. I just have to go back and talk about the amount that's going to be shared that. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Appreciate it. Appreciate all the information. Absolutely. Okay. So, I saw Martha leaving Teresa. So, I don't Do you have miscellaneous you you have for us today?

Yes. Yes. And yeah, as long as uh with the uh next week being the ribbon or the groundbreaking, maybe have Justin stay just a few minutes. Sorry, you keep thinking we're gonna get out of here. Uh no, you're okay. Just just so you're listening. I do want to make sure we talked about that. Okay. Would you Oh, thank you. All right. Would you like to begin with that? Yeah, let's start with that.

All right. Right now, I've received RSVPs for approximately 50 people. So, uh, Senator Murray's office will be there and we'll have a letter. I have, uh, not heard if Congressman Bombgartner will be joining us, but his office will be. We have assorted state legislators and other electeds. Mayor Brown will be there and also representatives from the different partnerships for this. So everything is proceeding a pace.

Okay, very good. So I I think um I just want to bring up on swooping going to be a big event. Um so you know looking at all you know just having seen this sheet on our funding streams um so it' be the county uh and asking Justin to speak as he's the one looking at how this will help our community from the intern perspective and the people that will be in our doors. Um Mike if you're okay not speaking is that okay? Do do you want to speak at the the groundbreaking or are you okay not speaking?

Oh, come on. May Okay. I mean, I'm just trying to think that, you know, and I I want to make sure everybody agrees, you know. So, I mean, you'd be stop speaking to the construction side of it and and the the timing of when we might have a ribbon cutting, you know, this being the groundbreaking. um having Justin speak as to the people that will be you know helped by coming through these doors um and then having you know Senator Murray's office you know her letter about the federal funding. Yes. And then also Senator Richelli about state support and I think that's going to be plenty.

Yeah. Otherwise people are going to get bored. All right. All right. Great. I will make sure that everybody is contacted and I'll start working on talking points. Sorry, I was just Did you say someone from Pioneer? I wasn't sure if you wanted to have someone. I did not at this point because Justin can kind of speak and recognize our operator. Yes, they talked about that more at the grand opening, right? When it's closer to the services,

but right now it's just breaking ground. But I think it would be really good um in the talking points to talk about the success of the current facility, how many people have been served um you know the oper like the successful financial operation of the center. So, I just don't think people know enough about, you know, it's been open for what, four or five years, and how many people have come through and been served and how many we're hoping, you know, that this will expand the opportunity to serve more people. So, anyway, any of those statistics and numbers, I think, would be important for the media to be able to cover of what we've already accomplished and what we hope to accomplish more of.

I took notes. So, um, and then just second, I'm sorry. I mean, I don't want to get into all the commissioner speaking, but it is Commissioner Jordan's district. So, do you want to say a few words or I'm uh interested in doing that. Can I give it a little more thought because I also don't want to be too crowded on the speaker list, but I'll say yes unless I change my mind if that's okay with the other commissions. I think that's fine. That's usually I can be brief. Try to try to do it then. I can just speak kind of.

Sure. Um, and I will just say that I'm I am sticking with the speakers being the funders building. So, because otherwise it can go too long and stuff get lost in translation. So, okay. Other than that, there was a flurry of media activity around the stateine dog park and and media coverage. Uh parks director Doug Chase is back from his outofcountry vacation. So uh he is in contact with Wash Dot and also with Scraps. I'll let you know. Jeff already briefed us earlier on this. So all right.

So you're good.

Uh for news releases primarily it had to do with the city and the county and the airport submitting that draft proposal to Department of Ecology. they have a week to respond and I know that Kyle briefed you on that. So, um, other than that, you did receive another request for a proclamation. Now, here's the situation we have. You have two proclamations that will be presented on March 31st for National Public Health Week and also for EWU's 144th birthday. Now, a couple of years ago, commissioners, you told me that you didn't want any more proclamations than two per your 2:00 meeting. Now, this would be a third one. It's for child abuse prevention month to declare the month of April. Now, the earliest they could receive that would be April 7th.

I mean, I make an exception. Yes, I I think I'm fine with presenting it on March 31st. All right, I'll contact them and let them know. Thank you very much. Thank you. There there are just times where it is, you know, needs to happen. So, and and the seventh wouldn't work because we don't have a meeting. Well, it's a it's Yeah. So, it's and then we would be halfway into the month. So, we are just fine doing it.

Thank you very much. Okay. Um, any other miscellaneous? No. Seeing none. Okay. So, Mr. Folson,

we have three closed items today. The first is contract negotiation andor publicly bid contracts under RCW423110 section D. Time estimated is approximately 10 minutes. No action is anticipated. Present. I'd like Jeff Mc Morris, Matthew Folsam, Devin Curta, Sherissa Sur, Dan Gad, Paul Alexander, Heather Arnold, and Martha Louu. Again, no action. The second is pending and potential litigation. No action. Matt Folsam, Jeff Mcorris, Devin Curta, Kyle Tuig, Ben Brado. So that'll be executive session, not closed session.

Executive session. Thank you. The second one. And the third is closed labor under RCW423140 section 4. Jeff McMorris, Matt Folsome, Devon Curta, Josh Gro, Ashley Cloud. So we have any questions on that? 50 minutes total. No action. No. Thank you. So we will then be going into close session, executive session for those three items just discussed. Um and we will see everybody back for our 2 o'clock little journ for the morning. Thank you.