Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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good evening. welcome to 3 planning and zoning commission meeting for the city of sebastian. 10/9/2025. we will begin with the pledge of allegiance.

and for it nation under god. it is all for the liberty and justice for all.

we'll call. please. yes. mister it's got a number here. mr carter present this bill russo mister reno. this battle looms here. this kitchen here in this case e. as our only announcement tonight, our alternate member. mr roberts has been excused from this evening's meeting.

and is covered like to let you know our city attorney as congress is with us zoom tonight. so you may hear a voice from the heavens voice. what do you do have any kind of in the question that you need to ask the attorney and chill guide us to tonight's meeting, but he is here present the okay. can you hear me? good evening. care. the first order of business would approval of the minutes from our preceding meeting.

committee members have all had opportunity to review the minutes. if you have any additions or corrections, please bring them forward if not, we will entertain a motion to approve the most submitted. madam chairman. make a motion that we accept the minutes of september 8020 25 written place.

all in favor any opposed. kerry, thank you. evening we have a public hearing. for project brought before us this evening. and before i opened the hearing, i just like make your own for any member of the public who may not be familiar. with their procedures. we do. are encouraged public in part. but please know that we need you to if you are going to make testimony before. this body. you need to. sign an old card and they're located at the back. and when you get up to speak, please. spell your name if it's anything other than smith jones. also, any member of the public has 5 minutes to speak unless body feels that what's being said ms such dramatic news to us. we need to hear more of it and then we'll let you know. we can extend if need be. ok, i am hereby opening this hearing. and first order of business would then be the applicants presentation to

we'll have to see attorney read the rest the item into that. i think i just skipped right over and you hear me. yes.

okay. great evening. tonight's public hearing is a recommendation to city council on. are you counting and planned unit development planned or trend african dr horton, parcel is one 48.500 acres more or less for a 110 single-family unit. but 7 be paired villa. one 0.2, 1 unit per acre located a piece of land 3 when railroad now the gilpin concord avenue and north mobile home park current zoning is hand residential single family. i and industrial and light industrial indian river county. the requested zoning up the are planned unit development residential.

okay. thank you. and now the applicants presentation, please. good evening, jim, that are with the g where the engine is a record for the project. we also have the land owner, fisher and the or done here the other during the presentation or afterwards. so they did a project this treasure bay. generally located.

as city attorney that said west of us. one west of the if you see railroad tracks self schumann east of lance and north of or kocian the brees open ocean park. sorry. location right here. you can see the locations, the project is proposed to have 100, 80 residential units 110 single-family lots and 70 paired villas. all 148 acres. overall. the density would be one 0.2, 1 units per acre. current existing zoning as it is a ending is a combination of rs 10 residential industrial and also some former county property county industrial zoning as well. proposed to be all pd zoning with the approval. again site totals about a 148 acres. it was formerly a sand mines. everything. it's in blue is currently the water body of where the sand was. a was mined previously. a flood zone as on the flood there's no for the environmental report. there's no environmentally sensitive property know environment sensitive in the project. the existing stormwater that existing lake will serve as our storm water pond. so all discharge and runoff from the site. we'll go into the pond into the lake. there is no proposed discharge. so we'll stay in a lake never leave. there is really no tree removal propose on the side there someday and bases on the buffers and a few trees that have to be dealt with. but generally for the size. the property. very, very few trees. and utilities water and sewer provided by indian river county. project is unique only in that the a 140 acre property 85 acres of the property is the existing about 58% of the property is is lake which results in the very low density. 1.2, 1 units per acre essentially design will be a single loaded road all the way

around the perimeter of the lake with the single family and and appeared bill. lots. the other nice thing about the property. it's it's considered infill. obviously it's not far west far south of the city. it's it's feels surrounded by existing residential existing development. so provides the infill of the city needs of insightful. the boundaries. this is a site plan. obviously not very good scale. but you can see same thing around the entire outside of the property. again, single-family loaded or single loaded with residential and the current bill as well. so as part of the pd, 2 offset the request for reduced lot size building well, we are proposing public benefits in the form of recreation amenities of the requires 0.1 acres per unit with a 180 units would be 1.8 acres and we have listed here. what is providing it's going into account for those amenities and recreation space. the private recreation space. we have 1.9 3 acres, those counted 50%. so 0.9 7 acres which includes at the northeast corner of the property. there's a kayak launch and a storage building gazebo at the north end of the property will be pickleball courts in residential playground and also a dog park down to the south southeast corner of the property. the public recreation areas count full for what it is. we won 1.9 7 acres on the east side, there's a 30 foot. why buffer and of right now, they're supposed to have an 8 foot sidewalk that goes all the way along the property on the side there so they can be a bike pedestrian have to get all the way from shooting down to and it continues to offer a with better scale, but it will go all the way down industrial park boulevard to 99th street.

so we'll full open to the public. have to go all the way from the north all the way to the self. so the required public recreation area was 1.8 acres with all those combined, some together. word providing 2.9 4 acres. so again, public benefits the bike path on the east side. there's a large 30 foot wide buffer between the ftc right of way and the internal roadways. so there will be a sidewalk, an 8 foot bike that sidewalk that will run the entire eu side of the property. the sidewalk will be owned by the city. but all the landscaping, everything outside of that will be owned by maintained by the h.o.a.. goes all the way south down to 99 down industrial park boulevard down to 99 street. at the southeast corner. can see year there will be a a public rest area 3.4 3 acres which will include a variety of things. there will be exercise equipment seating area, bike maintenance equipment and a community planting area. so that should be nice for residents and public to have some amenities use their. there's also 2 sidewalk connections to the west to land street. so the side, the internal sidewalk to lose the entire site. you can exit the landstreet to get shuman park in some of the areas out to the west. and then one other item that was a request of indian river county utilities as part of our lift station. we have to have a force main that will go under the ftc railroad tracks to the very north under schumann. we were proposing a 4 inch and the county needed 8 inch line there for future connections and tie-ins. so we're installing an 8 inch line 4 for the county. the requested waivers first part of the

essentially are the lot with saint everything that's associated with the lot. widths. as you can see here, the taipei. lots are the. single-family residential lots 7500 square feet. there's a type of a lot be type, which is just a smaller depth and it's usually due to the depth that we on the top of bank, so to speak. the water level is about 6 to 8 feet. sorry. the top of the bank has about 6 to 8 feet higher than the water level. so at times the top of the bank is fairly pinch to get the road and the single family lot. the back of the lot was a little bit shorter which resulted in some of those 115 foot depth slots. and the associated with that would have the actual waivers with the with the reduced lot size, which would be the minimal lot width requesting a 50 foot lot with the yard setbacks. 5 feet on the townhomes and single-family lots as opposed to a 10 foot. the open space requirements, which would be reduced or increased due to again to the smaller lot sizes the percentage of the lots as well. the building coverage on percentage of a lot. and that concludes our present presentation again. we'll have a several people here to answer any questions that come up from from the border, from staff and happy to answer any questions. thank you, thank you, sir.

and city staff.

good evening. commissioners i'm going mr bitter kind filled in a lot of the information you have already hit their written summary some of the information that we've given in your packet was in his presentation. so that offers up a lot of information on the conceptual plan. we want to step back as the rezoning. you are considering actually 2 applications. one is for the rezoning. going back to have already. reviewed the land use that was at her previous one of our previous meetings where they have requested a new land is going for mixed use too low density residential that has been sent up to the state for the the florida department commerce department to review and we are expecting comments back by october 30th for the land use and we'll continue on with that. to city council. they've already done their first rate. this is the company application to rezone. the property is currently rezone at currently zoned r us 10. for most of it and then along the railroad tracks along eastern edge of the lake. it's zoned industrial. there also is a one 0.4 7 acre tract that was recently extended the last couple of years. that's don't industrial and then industrial park boulevard which will remain a private road. actually was a split wrote a portion of it was an sebastien a portion of it was mixed is still remains. an inner county. we have already corrected that it's been an extent. but the land use zoning also includes that road. what we'd like to do is get all of the zoning as one zoning for all those parcels to p** you d r. the code requires that when you recall when you request a planned unit development zoning that also has to have an accompanying conceptual plan so that you see what they're going to be building, which is what which is the other part of this, this hearing is the review of that conceptual plan. we want reiterate that the except plan is just that you're still going to have the next step occasion. if this does get approved by council will be the preliminary plat the clinic that will have a lot more details that you'll see on that on the utilities,

on the drainage finished floor elevations of those houses that are coming in. this is the conceptual, the kind of the master plan. it does require they per zoning. it does allow them to not necessarily variances or waivers. it's actually just dimensional consideration. and in exchange for that consideration. we can request of additional public, then amenities. so as you can see what they've offered. and there were in the recreation amenity with their recreation amenities. there's a minimum code that they have to meet first. so we're not saying that all of those recreation amenities are above and beyond for your consideration. some of that was minimal. but we have worked with them and gotten, as you can see, almost acre more of a recreational lands for this project along with some other over those. but i just want reiterate that this is conceptual plan and not necessarily the subdivision plan. so with regards go back to rezoning on page 3, 4, in the staff report, there was some considerations that you need to consider proving rezoning. and that, of course, was that comprehensive plan consistency and that does go over things like level of service cause that going to be met with this rezoning traffic out of water wastewater with regards to traffic and the conceptual plan. they this subdivision based on their density and the amount of dwelling unit is going to be approximately 1600 daily trips. but any road improvements that we're going to need traffic impacts to the neighboring roadways. we will get a full traffic analysis document that be reviewed by the city engineer to determine if on on 99th street, industrial park boulevard. primarily as explained in sherman drive. if we're going turn lanes, what type of a improvements that will need to

handle that traffic coming out of that subdivision but face that they are providing the 2 primary entrance is that we need. we feel that that is not a hint it to the rezoning request that be able to meet the requirement that they need. storm water, recreation. solid waste. the staff report go into why we feel that they have met all of this criteria regards rezoning request. we would like to enter the staff report into the record for consideration clear now page 5, we do go into the land development code. the items that that conceptual development plan required to have and we go into that. it does provide circulation planets that we did get a conceptual drainage plan utility plan. but why would like to go more into some of our other matters regarding that, which showed up. there was a one sheet that gave overview. but in your packet, if you look, you know, probably look to reach those pages. each section of that subdivision. you could see much more clearly and some of the items that we were talking about and where they'll be laid out. so what they're asking for consideration is the average lot size is the code requires that you take the adjacent zoning district, which is our is 10 9500 square foot. is there a minimum lot size and they have their their average of their lot sizes should be at least 75% of that amount. they are a little bit under that. that is one of the dimensional criteria that they're asking for you to consider. that would be ok lieu of some of the additional amenities that they're bringing in. they are asking for smaller lot with ers 10, which is 80 feet. they're requiring 40 feet. they are though, for they're paired villas. a little bit higher in what the we just the townhouse what it says. we revised a few months ago, the minimum lot size is a lot with this 20. they're paired villa lot with

sir. 40 feet so they above but they are requesting 50 feet minimum with on their single-family lots their setbacks course at that size with they are asking for adjustment of the setbacks. maximum building coverage and actually this is an unnecessary consideration in the pdr. it just says that each one has to have 30% open space. it doesn't necessarily give a specific of what the building coverage can be. so that gives them a little bit of leeway on the building size as long as each of those lots have 30% open space. will be checking that also when those building permits come in the other main one was is our code states that when you do have a lake especially like this size that you are only allowed to use that acreage up to 30% 30% of that lot size that makes ice could go toward your open space requirement. but because of the uniqueness of the size of the uplands around the lake to be able to get that and to get this density, which is not a high density. we're still at 1.2, 1, they are requesting they're allowed to use 50% of that lake area towards their open space. so in lieu of that, what they are providing an offering to give us as that additional public benefits yes, there is along the east side of this which will be in between the railroad tracks in the lake where the houses are. they're gonna provide a 30 foot landscape buffer and within that there will be 8 foot bike paths shared use path. they show it on your plans against the western side of that. we were we want to work with them but notice it's one of our conditions of approval that possibly we center that bike path and we're envisioning enhanced landscaping canopy trees landscaping some benches along that. i would like to clarify, which in had in his power point and what he said is after consideration of some of our other pure days. the sidewalks will be dedicated on the final plat to the city for

public use but not dedicated to the city. it'll be dedicated for public use but maintenance of the sidewalk and the landscaping will be with the h.o.a.. we've some of our other days as we we revisited that. river oaks their trails and now they didn't dedicate those to us to the city for us to maintain. it's dedicated for public use, but they will be responsible for maintaining that i wanted to clarify that. and on that one slide that cut that jim had. so that that, again, we have requested enhanced an additional landscaping in that buffer. so that does create this nice path. it. ideally what it is, it's interconnectivity. you'll be able to go from sherman drive, which has a a but sidewalk 6 lane will have a improved sidewalk and that and then you'll be able to drive along sidewalk. it will continue along industrial park boulevard all the way to 99th street 99 street has a sidewalk, which then can get your to us. one and either south to the public's barbour street or north. there's going to be some additional commercial projects in the county or if we can annex it into the city. but they'll be some. so it'll be the connectivity for pedestrians golf carts bicycles instead of having this big gap between 99 the barbary street in sherman drive and having to go all around that. so we felt it was a a nice interconnectivity bike paths for our residents will be able to be used the general public. there are including an 8 foot bike path along industrial park boulevard. the 1.4 7 baker, little parcel on south side will be kind of a residential parking area for rv's and boats but 0.4, 3 of that will be a public west area which a pavilion. the dc they've said exercise equipment, bicycle maintenance equipment it's a sunny maybe air hose, water fountains. so depending where you're coming. it's gonna be a nice rest stop and then some exercise equipment. that's a

nice to mitigate the ready. they're adding to pedestrian points to landstreet. that's going to mostly benefit for their residents. it does allow their residents to get out to last week's will be real close edition and park and then staff did verify with the county that the increase to the. to the sewer line from going from 4 inches to 8 inches was not a minimum requirement. it was a preferred up size and the county wanted and the developer has offered to pay that cost all themselves. not a shared custody in with the county. so that is definitely public amenity that they're bringing into the area. i'm the around with their cost. and then just want to go into a couple other of our considerations. they will be providing to maine accesses. one 6 lane. that is a substandard road right now. so again with the plenary platteville have to come up with the design that the city engineer work with and based on the traffic analysis if there's a turn lane there, we'll look at queuing with the railroad. but that will come down the road with the plan plot. but they are they showing to meet at accesses. the premier landscape. buffers will be required to have specific landscape plan. so the plan, right plants come in will be able to see exactly how many trees are planting will come up with requirements and have at least a minimum plan that they're going to have to submit separately each of the recreation areas that they showed the kayak launch the pickleball courts. those will require separate site plans depending on the impervious. they may be administrative where they they may have to come back to you. definitely the model home center because they're a conditional use. you'll see that that site plan for their model. home centers. the other thing that we wanted to i want to really point out that will require its condition of approval. they're they're missing some parking for they're paired villas. we look at multi-family and we did require with the new code that some guest parking is required

for those paired villa areas of the parking that's on the recreation or does not get the count towards that parking. so they didn't show that on the plan. we will make sure it's a condition of approval, but we'll make sure that it gets added for the plenary plat. i believe it was. 2121 30 spaces that will get that could be broken up force base. is in each area. will make sure that gets on the plane replant. the other thing i also wanted to mention in terms of environmental. we did include the environmental report in your packet. if you read that all through there there is a gopher tortoise survey in there. they'll be required to deal with that. there were 70 gopher tortoise is in one corner and corner. so when they get closer and clear and will be taken care of and the environmental report also mentioned that there was least terns nesting areas that could be because that around the lake. a ridge of when we started working with this project. we did. want to keep as much native a some sort of made a buffer around the lake. so we have requested that they do not side side that lake around the lake that buffer area so that we can keep it natural for the native. a native plantings originally and we it is a question that staff has 4 of the applicant tonight. also at one point in the rear yards of the lots. there was going to be a fence, some sort of sense. our question is what has changed since brought this is originally it was thought that the residents would only have access to the lake through at that area to the kayak launch. we were curious if each of the lots would be able to have their own dot or access to lakeshore originally there was a fence that went around. those rare lot sizes which allowed us to say, ok, let's keep these native areas around the lake the last the plant you have before. you does not show that fence. it isn't a thing that was required in our code. but it did open up. they are going to re grade that now

that area between the end of the lots and down to the water. so that area is going to be recreated. but we're still that are still requesting that made a buffer that no side be put in there. but we are curious if the intent is to allow those residents to have direct access down to the lake from the back of their lots because that will affect maybe some of the environmental. question we're asking for some native plantings and some of the total zones that they now can add because they are regretting that area. so that'll be a question for the applicant. if you can respond get back up. but we have just want to. but you know that we had considered around the lakeshore and some environmental issues around that. that the in conclusion staff does feel, though, that they at the intent of the conceptual plan. the rezoning. it does mean all of the comprehensive plan requirements and page 9 you can see their 8 conditions of approval. don't want to read each one into the record. but the first to do do go over the public record it a shuttle manatees. which ones will be dedicated to the public and what we're requiring is that those public amenities have to be completed with the completion of the before the subdivision gets certificate of completion. so you the developers use to get that certificate of completion before they can start building homes or at least it's involved somebody that they want to do and that this would be required. but we don't want it to be so that they're building houses and the public amenities don't get built and then something happens the subdivision. this will disrupt condition of approval requires those public amenities to be done before this certificate of completion is issued for the subdivision. and then we have also that they be dedicated on the final plat for public use, but they came by the h.o.a.. now the other recreational tracks, the condition number 3 is that they are to be completed before 25% of the residential use of the subdivision or any first phase is has received

certificate of occupancy. so because it was a private amenities. it's okay if some of those houses go up. but we don't want the whole subdivision to be completed and those public amenities are built out by the developer and then the h.o.a. is has to develop, though. so. if they come in at the thunder planning phase. the project. 25% of that first phase. if they don't face that. 25 1% of what you see would have to be before ceos the public. the private amenities would also have to in place. number 4 is just basically that they work with us on the centering of the sidewalk where that exact placement will be. they have also originally had requested to for some noise barriers. they wanted to put 8 foot wall on eastern property line between the railroad tracks residential areas only allow a six-foot wall but including a berm because there's a unique situation with that train we can't possibly allow 8 foot, but that would include the berm. so we're not talking if there's any burning. and then an 8 foot wall. total from from existing elevations would be 8 feet and that they would work with staff. and on that offside improvements at essex and concord will be in accordance with the city. engineer design standard separate site plans for the recreational tracks and model homes to come back before you, the guest parking spaces will be shown on the plenty plant that they're missing and number 8 history that one in that has to do with the environmental that after any proposed regrading, the area along the lakeshore shall remain a natural state with no side added and additional native shoreline plants and literal planting shelby install wherever feasible with the proposed plan to plan to be submitted by staff. staff recommends approval. terry farrell, thank you. ♪

time for public in part if there is anybody here from the public who would like to have some input. you are welcome. seeing no anybody. and so think we we don't do too too soon know no birth them for public input.

and carney. i think heard here presentation, we've presentation from the applicant. and don't think you need go over any other parts of it. again. i think we close the hearing and opening act for deliver deliberation and i know that some of the commissioners will have some questions. that student.

thank madam chairman. worldwide staff. first of all, understandable look like you'll have worked well together and developing to to this point. i don't really have any questions. remember what our main focus today is recommending city council. i think we'll find. issues. are things might do to get into when we see the actual site plans and things of that nature. well, job well done both sides.

i agree with mr carter. i go through these and i have all kinds of circles and questions and and then one staff gets finished. i have been were circles are so thank you. i do have one question dory for under the staff recommendation. i don't see anything in the 8. recommend recommended require ments that you're asking to accommodate the county's request for that. 8 inch.

they have they have already spoken to the county and we do have some verbal of it was in some comments in response that we did get back with our last comments in writing from the applicant to be that they will be putting that 8 inch pipe in at their cost. it was originally discussed that that not be additional condition.

so if you want to add and make it formally. we do have it in writing. from them. do have it in writing. yes, yes, and i think it may be a it may be more of a condition towards the plant right place at because that's when you elect, she will get more of those details utility plants. that's fine. as long as you have it in writing. i have no problems. then thank have no question to do is click to read that there's going to be a great big between people at that train cars. i don't have a lot of faith that people but thought about too, because if think about it, that that is the public sidewalk.

so that wouldn't bend buffered from the from the railroad track. 44. they rather think too. so i think that also protects the public sidewalk with having that wall there from the tracks and for people going across the tracks from the east side over whatever. so.

great presentation very thorough and questions. but i do have a couple questions. the gated it's gated community both on both sides. how do is the public going to get to the general area. the general air of being one of general that that public area that they're making for general use. how how would that? how they executed a war. we remove the gates on both the north and south. and so it's like they did. it's not going to be gated community. correct. okay. and then going to be you know, it's not in there, put it to use. it wasn't a anymore.

i'm one of the plans was there was gates to go in. but all the public areas were outside of that gate. so they to get okay. and next question will there be any parking on that in that area for that general use or. yes, that it's not a good scale in shape it's in your packet, but you can see some parking. story. it said in the preliminary plat process will have a formal site plan with parking the dog park, the kayak that will have some parking. yes.

what everybody else has said. i have lots of questions but will wait for the next one. this thank you door. you're always so good at presenting and it clearly shows you guys have, you know, work through a lot of things on now echo everyone else in that, you know. there's a lot of great things about this few questions i did have. so you did mention the pope that parking. is that going to be.

parking the public can park in there, ok. and then i guess it i had a question about the location of the fence. is there reason that it's offset from the property line between. the tracks and the path. just thinking that maximize the amount of area. for public use. it looks like it's running. right adjacent to the sidewalk.

well, i we agree that we were going work through that as when the playwright platt. what struck you as you understand the big rating through there is a little bit different. there's an existing berlin laws that come down. but the tie into that location of the south and to the north and various at about 5 to 6 feet. so will probably have to meander the wall a little bit just depending on where we're tying in with the sidewalk television television is where we're tying in today. jason grade. but i think the intent is to push as far our line is

it had been here to answer that. also battles. we had noticed that 2 of this plan and that's why it is one of our conditions that we are. we're gratified lux entered and to push that fence as far east as we can count on the plan plan and we made a motion and condition of approval to look into that. final design. that sounds great. i think my only other. question is as it relates to the increased canopy trees and landscaping. has there been any conversations between you guys. like what that might be. how many per linear foot or any kind of conversations.

so we're kind of on the same page us what that might look like.

we haven't yet. we did not get a landscape plan. some refugees had the initial spears basket was some initial plans. but that's what we had added that as a condition. but mostly we're looking at we're looking at using one canopy tree per 25 feet. we definitely want to get some shading type of trees. we'll look to see what kind of utility lines that were along that also. but we're definitely looking at hedging presuming because that's gonna be a public past to the west of that where there are some paired villas. the single lots of they're going to want some also some additional landscaping ahead. jeanne, most likely some sort of 6 foot type lance we want to do the whole 30 feet with fences on both sides but definitely will work on that with plan place. they'll have to come in. and that's why we required separate landscape plans for those landscape extra sheets and that that plan place. that all sounds good.

and i'm i'm glad to hear that. it's not going to be gated. just kind of from my concern at the last meeting about the connectivity and it's great to hear that staff's, you know, trying to encourage the pedestrian connectivity as well as you know, it's going to allow for. connectivity with automobiles as well to get through it from, you know, the 99th street air area to chum. and i think it's that area. the of the city is kind of. you know, segregated at this point. so i think i love to hear that. so i think i'm in support.

i do have another question now that we're not doing the gates and you're in like she missed medals just said who will be responsible for that. those roads if it's still h.o.a., correct. so it would still be h.o.a. responsibility for those roads that now come will be. could possibly be publicly travel. we also added that as a condition of approval.

kind of as a safety also there to it and we'll make sure there's some verbiage on the final plat that if the u.s. as developers hand over the age raised to the residents and say some of the maintenance of that does kind of go wayside and it's not kept up irrigation, get turned off and on you can find that pd not compliance with its approval. and at that point, maybe there's a little bit more code enforcement will make sure we get that verbiage in there. so we have a little bit more stronger language to stand on. if we do have to require to keep up with that maintenance at least of those public.

public areas and the h.o.a. will be responsible for the public. the general public areas on top of all of their other amenities. yes. just one question for jury. the area around the lake. the eu indicated. native plantings. i i am making an assumption that because of. how land has been used over the years that kids see far away from anything native now.

so talking about re installing native planting.

yes, kind of the summary of think of the sand mine to. and so if what we're trying to get some more native areas and some native plant is literal zones. it was explained to us because of the sand mining activities. the way the grade was. and then it drops off directly into that sand mind that it would be hard to establish some of the totals owns or some of those native plan is to take place. so we required with it. going forward with say will wear feasible. have those in. but now as we understand the less the plans that we got and they are. they have determined that they do want to great. that area. andrew great into the water a little bit. also kind of the wreck. the sand mine reclamation plan and they'll be working. the saint johns on that. but because of this regrading, it may open up a little bit more areas where some native plantings and literal zones can be planted to get some more of that native shoreline habitat back. and again, we'll work with the engineers when those come a place come in and that's why we added that as a condition of approval that where feasible we'd love to see some more of plant needs to for the wading birds possibly some natural environment of the lake itself to.

okay to wear feasible pleases me. yes, but i we would like to get as a record. if. what their detention or for those lots, though, will if i had a house and at lake just walk out my back yard to the lakes role pool and create my own beach. i wasn't sure what the h.o.a. was going to set that up because that that will come into play with where those native plants can be. if we have that developer put those in. but then the homeowners are allowed to use that beach front does their own a defeat that purpose so. if tim could come up and he's aware that, the apartment to do it. with that or feel horton's here and they could kind of maybe for that to the record for kind of put him on the pretty like to represent are already here.

all say that at this time we're not planning on restricting the residents access to the lake directly from their own lots. there's no longer any plan for a fence along this lots that will be great. it's been pleased in theory, you could access the lake in terms of anything that would be placed there. so it will be only controlled by the h.o.a.. the h.o.a.. nice to be able to maintain the lake banks, maintain the lake and clear everything out. so there wouldn't be placement of any permanent structures such as stocks are fences in that area. but feasibly somebody could go down and access to lake itself. i will say from up planting standpoint when we do a great we would like to be able to at least stabilize and we can interspersed native plantings stabilization and the intent to keep it nice native plants clear out invasives. but yeah, at this time we restrict president access to

i think with regards to are. condition number appropriate still, it does say that with know to the natural state with no side added. we would like to keep it as a condition and we will verify that may be made to a docks that that's also explaining that and then additional native. sure like plants shelby. and so every feasible we'll double check with that plan. plan final that comes in the draft or what they docks to see what type of verbiage they added that to kind of we enforce this condition here that we would like to see the pipeline.

door. you're saying on the plat, then they'll be an area of that's identified. that will like the restricted. no, said all native plant. think of show's 2 is the the rear lot line of the lot and then it does show a lake access easement for them to get intimate do that. and i think forward there to fire. no and to keep it in the net after they re great you know, if they are going to seated or it may be more of that aside or c, but more natural shoreline grasses are you know, a line. plantings.

i did have one question for mister just real quick. if you. sorry. you may not have the show. you may know, have your ducks put up to put a motive. when you go to your lot line are going to go to it. is that expanding to the water line or is that just today. and so the maintenance, the easement and all of that area will be maintained again by the h.o.a..

that is correct so that the lot lines will go up to a certain point. there will be a 15 foot access and maintenance easement and then in between the end of that, there will still be additional space for the lake banks down to the water surface and all of that will be the controlled by the h.o.a.. i think it full. yes.

i want to thank you, especially for a number 3 having the recreational areas be completed before it's turned over the h.o.a. because it takes forever to finally get the h.o.a. in the hands of owners. i'm going to be a neighbor h.o.a. of this h.o.a.. and thank you also for the care you're giving to the it just boggles my mind that it costs so much to relocate a tortoise. but i hope will stick to that and do the right thing.

ok, if we've satisfied, everybody's questions preliminary. we will entertain a motion.

make a motion recommend to city council. approval of the requested zoning changes and approval of the conceptual pd development plan for treasure bay with the following conditions spent spelled out biden. the community development department. one through thank you. second.

roll call vote. please. condition. yes, this battle. it's kind yes. this meant use. yes.

mister ac. yes, this will yes. mister carter. yes. ok. thank 7 0. the kent motion carries. thank you. we have. unfinished business to address. we have no new business to ice. i'd like to make a comment maybe staff

as far as getting the city sign in front city hall. facts just far that blank area where the self or event. a long so it it so i believe our facilities department and has been working with the same manufacturer regards to getting the replacement parts. i know you're not the first person get idea along puerto i'm not sure i know that we talked about it. i want to say it was a week or 2 ago so i think are waiting out for a while. so we're waiting on a perch coming.

okay. thank thanks. okay. that being said, this meeting is adjourned. thank you.