Art in Public Places Committee (Through Sept 2021) - Regular Meeting

A step forward in healing, peace, and justice for Andy and for everyone that continues to remember him.

Muchas gracias por su tiempo y considerar esta petición.

Gracias a todos. Thank you so much for your time and for considering this request. Gracias.

I recall that ArtStar made artwork under the direction of Mario Uribe. Is this...?

He says that when they did the mural for the ArtStar program, the artist was Mario Uribe.

Yes, but he is no longer in charge. Now Heather is in charge of ArtStar because he retired.

that module is retired because you had there's a few there's the other one where Andy Lopez fading those but then that one that she has is different we can't yeah but I'm going to follow up with Rafael on this to understand who the artist is and moving forward thank you okay yeah I look forward to following you and this is where we are

Me dio mucha tristeza, mucha pena que el mural está tirado en el piso. No está en un storage. Está en una yarda tirado.

She just wants to briefly say that what she's sharing is pictures of when she went recently to Art Start and the mural is not stored properly. It is on the floor.

Oh, no. Gracias. Gracias.

Okay. Are there any other comments or presentations from the public?

Just, I guess, an introduction. So, hi, everyone. My name is Roman, and I'm a Sonoma County artist based off of Santa Rosa. The reason I'm here is, well, I was invited, but I also believe that art can have a strong impact in the community right now. I'm currently working on a mural that's being done in Andy Lopez Unity Park, where I'm painting seven major stone structures that are paying respect to and related to Andy Lopez. But it's also paying respect to heritage, and it's a historical and family-friendly piece as well. And the reason I started painting for the public is my goal was always to beautify areas that needed tending to. And what I've seen in this particular project that I'm doing right now is I've seen youth volunteers helping me out with the project. local people in the community coming together to help clean the park. And most importantly, I've seen pushback against graffiti and vandalism. So what I want to do today is put my paintbrush on the table and offer my skills as an artist if there's any project or collaboration or opinion needed about art or anything. That's mainly why I'm here. But also because I believe in the impact of art. I also believe that the Andy Lopez mural should be moved to the library as well so that when it is on display, it could continue to have a similar impact as well.

Great, thank you.

Thank you very much.

Does Meredith have your contact information?

Yes, earlier we. That's great, thank you.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you. All right, very good. Really appreciate all the public comments. We will move on to the approval of the minutes. Has everybody read the minutes from the previous meeting, which I believe was June? Yeah, that was June. OK, are there any additions or changes to the minutes? OK, then we can approve the minutes as submitted. Thank you very much. OK. Okay, we're up to item number seven, scheduled items. So we have a project report proposal, recommendation for the project . And so Meredith, do you have a presentation? Oh yeah, this is the project. He's been busy on Facebook with it.

Thank you. So today I'm going to provide a project update of Martin Zuniga's butterflies along with a funding recommendation for you. To review the project again, Los 50 Monarchas was a collaborative public art installation with artist Martin Zuniga. He's working with Latino service providers, providing 50 monarch butterflies throughout Haworth Park, with number one being at the museum. The goals here were to celebrate and elevate Latino voices and cultural expression, to engage local artists, students, and community organizations, to activate public spaces through temporary accessible artworks, expand public participation. Oops, sorry. I can't, sorry. You can't see it on the screen, but I had something blocking my text. expand participation across diverse communities, engage with the landscape and public space, and emphasis again on scale, repetition, visual impact coincide with the crystal exhibit over at the museum. So our team met with our Parks and Rec team and walked the trail with Martine. We noted the areas to place the butterflies, much more than one. And we've received and stamped engineering drawings. So the plan is to place them along the right side of the trail, some in clusters and some spread out. A lot of this will also be determined on site as we're doing the install with the anchoring and location. So the idea is that a lot of the park at Howarth Park, there'll be signage in front of these and they'll be able to walk the trail with the butterflies intertwined throughout the trees along the landscape. APPC approved $10,000 in the project funding in April. Along with that, you did approve $10,000 to Michael McGinnis with SRJC, and they are no longer moving forward with that project. Not that we won't move forward with some other type of partnership with them in the future, but if we did, that would also require an approval through you. And, but with that Michael is assisting with with the wood cutting so he's very excited about this project as well, and has been working working with Martine I believe they just got to start this week on that. And so, Michael and Martine are actually working together on this, so the the SRJC is assisting with that that alleviated a lot of the cost for the wood cutting for this, however, there's still the supplies. The stamped engineering said cost, et cetera. And we have received in the stamped drawings. So I was able to give Martin his first portion of the check because in the contract I had to receive that first in order to start to move forward. He did have a fundraiser and donations are being received through Latino service providers. However, additional funding is needed to complete this project because of the cost of the supplies of the wood. So today we are looking to approve a contract amendment of increasing it to another 10,000 for a total of $20,000 to Martin Zuniga for this project. And with that, he would be able to purchase the remainder of the wood and we'd hope for an end of August, September install.

Great.

I have a question. All the butterflies are going to be at Howard Park? except one, which would be at the museum. Okay.

Great. And so just to be clear for all of us, so the proposal here Okay.

And this is coming through our arts and parks fund, which was at a, I believe it was 117,000. So it's not out of the public art program budget. So that arts and parks is very specific to, we can't use it for. marketing, et cetera, specific for these parks projects. And that fund increases, I'd say between 12 to 15,000 every year. It's a slow growing fund, but we also have not used it for quite some time.

Got it. Okay. Yeah. I appreciate that clarification.

My question is, you showed the trail, the path, and that is the paved path, correct?

Correct.

Okay. Okay. which is traveled by lots of people. Families and, oh yes, lots.

Especially that specific area. We've walked it with him a few times. We've walked it with our parks and recs director. We've run it through all different departments. And the idea also is potentially just starting to install as they get created and growing this.

And is there going to be some signage explaining what the... Okay.

Yeah, we'll be doing A-frames and then also lawn-type stake signs in front of each. And depending on donors, we'll be placing that signage there. We'll do bilingual. And then I'll also have a QR code on those going to a project page.

Okay, wonderful.

Do you have a... Or does Martine have an installation crew already lined up? Because I... I'll volunteer my time to help with it.

I'll let them know. I think as Latino service providers, the kids have really been helping out with this. They all will be anti-graffiti coded, and then they'll also be in charge of monitoring those. There'll be a lot of teaching opportunities, I think, also with the kids throughout this on public art.

Having worked with Martine previously,

For my information, is there a sunset or when do they expect that these could take them?

In his contract, I believe I have November. We can always amend that. I think we were looking at about a three-month install. It depends with, obviously, there's fire season, there's high winds, there's weather conditions. I know our team, along with Parks, is happy to amend that if we'd like to extend it, depending. Our original hope was to get them installed beginning of August. Obviously, today's August 3rd. So our new hope is... Potentially end of August, we can get these started to be installed there.

I'm just curious if there's any thought about potentially bringing these to another park, if they're successful in this park, and that being a cool kind of like, oh, we'll follow the butterflies. I think that's a great opportunity for sure. So a conversation to be had for that, please let us know.

Great. And is there a... dedication or um opening event or anything like that there will be once we have the what what's going on i'm just i was wondering if there's already okay are there any other questions or comments um because we have to take this to a vote yeah Okay, I would entertain a motion to approve the funding for an additional $10,000 to Martin Zuniga's Monarch Project. Actually insert the Spanish there, which, oh, La Cinquenta Monarchas. Yeah, to that project. Do I hear a motion?

So moved. I make a motion to approve the additional award of $10,000 from Parks and Parks Fund to the contract for La Cinquenta Monarchas. And I second.

All right, it has been moved and seconded. Is there any additional discussion? Okay, no additional discussion. Mr. Recording Secretary, we will take a vote.

Do we want to call public comment before we take a vote?

Oh, yeah. That's a public comment. Is there any public comment? Thank you.

What is, like, I might have lost, like, the, was it to, like, teach, like, the, aren't they monarchs or something going extinct or something like that? Is that what that was for?

I think there is an environmental educational component to this question. Oh yeah, that's right.

I was just curious about that. Good question.

Yeah. My thing with it was mostly for the migration and the Monarch Firefly and what it stands for. And behind it's the movement and show people. And that's why he was, he's doing 15 right now. And is that what you, it was 15? 50. I got that. 50.

And I'll add all of that to the project page as well.

Are they coloring them, or are they solid?

They're going to be solid wood. Solid wood. Yeah, all of them are going to look the same.

Yeah, so the project page is on the website, Albuquerque website. So once that's updated, you'll let us all know. Yeah. Thanks, Meredith. OK. Any other comments or questions? Hearing none, we will now take this to a vote. Jack?

All righty.

Committee Member Puentes?

Yeah.

Chair Nathanson? Yes. Vice Chair Keefer?

Yes.

And Committee Member Chejo Vasquez?

Yes.

Let the record reflect that the motion passes unanimously.

Great. Thank you all very much. Okay. We are now up to item number 7.2, the temporary art walk. Meredith?

Right. One second here. Let me pull up my plan.

See.

All right. The time has come. I feel like we just installed the nine downtown, which I guess we sort of did because it was last October. We're already in August. Being a two-year art walk downtown, as you know, calls take about a year to form a selection committee and do site selection, etc., And I believe we briefly talked about this, potentially it was in April, that this would be coming on the agenda and to start to think about themes. You'll see today I'm proposing a theme. It doesn't mean it's set. I'd welcome discussion on that. We do, if this is approved, to move forward with another temporary art walk. That is something that I would like to solidify today on the theme so we can start working on some advertising. The temporary art walk started in 2025, which was approved in 2024. The goal was to have more pop-up experiences really downtown for placemaking. Temporary art can really lend a hand to that where art comes and goes and people have these attachments to it. And so it leads to more of the walkability, the creativeness of downtown and placemaking. So for 2027, the artwork proposed would be installed in October. This current art walk is being de-installed in September 2027. One of the themes that personally I was brainstorming was more about art history. And I think we may have briefly discussed this. months ago as well, and the importance of art history and the relation of it to our current works sculpturally, painting, etc., the studying of famous artists. Famous artists in our history or artists that are not known in our history too. So the City of Santa Rosa Public Art Program invites artists to create original works inspired by the great masters of art history, and that should be a correction, they should already be created works And so we do submissions that are only already created sculptures. Artists would be encouraged to interpret the styles of movements, creative legacies that have shaped the art world through their own unique perspective. So we'd be seeking up to 10 temporary public artworks to be installed throughout downtown Santa Rosa and Railroad Square. transforming the area into an engaging open-air gallery, celebrating the artistic inspiration across generations. Whether it's paying homage to a beloved masterpiece, reimagining a historic movement, blending classical influence with contemporary expression, selected works should invite visitors to experience artistic traditions in fresh and unexpected ways. Each artist would receive a $5,000 stipend to exhibit their artwork for the two-year installation. And they received 3,000 upon installation and then 2,000 after the de-install. And a reminder, this year, we only had nine. We did open it up to 10, but nine were only out of being selected. We did have a couple alternates. So that's why I put up to 10. I think it depends on the space, really. We don't want art just to fit it somewhere where it doesn't fit. So it would really be the selection committee reviewing and thinking about the locations, et cetera. The goals of the art walk here are to foster civic excitement, encourage creativity, make art history accessible. So I could see this as really some learning experiences of with the QR code and learning about the art and then who it was inspired by. celebrate artistic legacy, transform public spaces, and offer learning experiences. Eligibility would be US artists or artist teams 18 or older. The locations, Downtown Santa Rosa and Railroad Square, exact locations to be matched with art. Currently, my hope would be we have a lot of those concrete pads already in place, which would save us a lot of money if we kept those concrete pads in those places. The two artworks in JG Way don't have concrete pads. Wheels Go Round is a unique one, so those pads will most likely have to be moved. But some of those sites already selected potentially we could always just replace with some more art. The responsibilities here, I would prepare the project plan and call for art and notify applicants and then manage all of the artist contracts and selection process, approve the artwork locations. I'd be looking to put together a selection panel, which would review the criteria and then bring forth a recommendation to the committee here. The APPC would approve the project plan and then also approve the final artists. And then the selected artists would be required to submit documentation, do the contract, insurance, et cetera. Also, they're responsible for the install, de-install, and then any repairs or graffiti removal if needed. The selection process would be an open competition. And the... Selection panel members would be two APPC members, one city staff, and then two members from the art community. And this goes through the submission requirements, which is up to six artworks, some video if needed, because sometimes kinetic works, you'd want to see that. We'd have a statement on what it's inspired by. And there are installation plan, artist resume. The selection process. would be we'd open up the call for art, which we have the CAFE program. My suggestion is to have that for probably about two months or so, I think I put in here, maybe a little over two months. And then by July or January, we would be closing that and the selection panel would start that review. That does take time. Sometimes artists apply for things and then that artwork's no longer available, et cetera. So that final selection, we would be looking to make in April next year. Artist contracts can take some time. And then they would be installing in October 2027 for two years. The estimated project budget for the last art walk, we had $75,000. A lot of that was spent on the concrete pad pouring and the labor associated with that with Public Works. We did not use all of the artists stipends because we only had nine artists, not 10, but we had went a little bit over more on the site prep. So my hope is that site prep will be a little bit lower on this one. Potentially we could do all 10 and we still have a good project contingency in there. So the recommendation for today is to approve the project plan for the temporary art walk. And I'd like to open this up to discussion on theme and discussion on how best to move forward.

Great. Thank you, Meredith. Exciting to be moving forward on another Art Walk project. I have an initial reaction to the art history theme because I think that term can mean their cultural background or various factors. So if we go with an art history theme, I think we need to provide language in the RFP that might suggest that art history from all continents, thinking globally, thinking from any cultures, because having studied art history and being a professional in the field, everything I learned in college was basically Eurocentric. And there's really, especially in recent years, over the last couple of decades, the art history museum communities have really rethought the way that we teach art history, the way we think about it, what's included so that it actually does reflect the diversity of the world. And it's a pretty broad topic. But if we somehow word this so that we encourage artists to use whatever source material works for them with their artistic expression, then I think we could end up with a project that is really rich and reflects the diversity and inclusiveness.

Because that is what I would be looking for is something more unique than your typical So we could all learn from each other on this.

Right, right. So art history from all cultures, thinking globally, I think would really make it that much more interesting.

Are you looking for more specifics on the context of whatever piece it may be, and then for people to actually educate and learn from that piece?

Yeah, that's a good question. Are we thinking about inspiration from perhaps a particular artist? Or it could be from an art movement.

It could be from an art style.

An artist's use of color. I mean, it's pretty broad, actually, I think. Which is also intended to be that way, to see what we get. I think it could be personally sort of exciting to see how another artist thinks and what resources they're using when they're creating that are different than mine.

I just think about some of the criticisms of the way art history has been approached. And so you might look at an artist like Picasso is a great example because he's so influential and so famous, but he appropriated from African and other cultures to a very large degree and became world famous and extremely wealthy off of this appropriation. And we live in a more global society today. And one of the challenges is for us to learn from one another and to try to bridge some of these divides and to come to better understanding in terms of cross-cultural experience. So I think the language in the RFP is important. But with that being said, giving artists great latitude, I think would really be important.

And I'm happy to bring forward the call for art at the next meeting in September, maybe to review because we're a little ahead of the game here, which is great. So if I were to bring that forward in September to review the language together, because you've got some great points that I don't want to miss. And then we can sort of finalize that at the next meeting. Yeah.

I support that. Yeah, after having studied art history in college and my experience in museums and curated spaces and cultural spaces, there's a bit of concern that comes to my mind in terms of his story. Sorry, just saying it as his story of whose context is this. Are you talking about her story? I love the Gorilla Girls and I really want to bring forward some of their.

I know some of them. Oh.

But needless to say, I'm very sensitive to who has been the author of historical context and why are we familiar with them. And I am adverse to some of more kind of the kitschy representations that we'll sometimes see of different artists' tropes. When I go to a museum store and I'll see the same doll, but in a dolly style and in a Picasso style and in a Matisse style. Yeah. I don't know if that's getting to the heart of this intent, so I would like to see that language and have a discussion. Okay.

Yeah, and you bring up a really important point because the European art, well, European and American art history that was really at the heart of art history collegiate programs, academic programs for decades and decades, probably centuries. But we're looking at a very male dominated realm of art history and very Eurocentric.

And even when, sorry, when female artists were creating work so often, I'm aware of the husband taking more credit because that is what was

right so one thing I'll also mention and myself coming out of the museum world museums are really recontextualizing their collections and their exhibitions of how they present art historical objects and documentation and the artworks. And so the LA County Museum has done this recently, completely reorganized how their collection is on view. And so you can see African or Asian or other kinds of art historically and contemporary next to European masterworks or American contemporary art. And so there's these relational views of art history that I think are really dynamic. It's a bit harder to navigate in those terms in one of the museums I did work at earlier in my career has completely redone their collection and when I visited there recently I was just like whoa but all like all the figurative work is together but it's showing you centuries from all around the world you know so it's really interesting to compare the figurative work obviously you know from pre-Columbian or Asian or contemporary American. So what the artists come up with, I think, is going to be really the fun part of this, as long as we frame the request for proposals in a manner that encourages people to really be creative.

I have a question for you, Meredith. When you have, for the budget,

the site planning and prep you have for the 10k is that taking account and um reusing the pads yes so we had 15 000 last year um i don't think i would need to use all of that for this coming okay i just don't we don't know what we're going to receive in um if Pads would need to be poured for JG waste sculpture. Is there a new location that we want to start thinking about? You know, last time we did 7th and Mendocino. Remember, we took out those black planters and now we have art there. And so is there, as you go around town now, I mean, thinking about these locations and railroads where we took out, it was trash cans from the hotels and put a nice pad there with art. So, yeah. I don't think that we would be spending more than that, but I also want to continue to look at beautifying these locations too.

Very good question. Thanks. Okay.

Sorry, quick question. Was there any thought about asking the public for, or asking our downtown partners, business owners, or the downtown community groups where they see opportunity sites, I think that would be.

So prior to the last art walk and for the last art walk, we had representatives from both DAO and railroad square on the selection panel. And that's a potential for this one as well. I've walked the sites with both groups. We're always looking at different improvements on that. So yes, we could most likely do that again as well if there's some opportunity sites. I know some other improvements that are already going to be happening in some of these sites downtown. And then our team in economic development does sort of have a project list of these areas that we're looking to beautify. So yes, that's completely a potential with us.

Okay, any other questions or comments? Nancy, did you have any thoughts? Okay. Any public comments?

So you guys said like the, I got a little lost, like you guys are, it's art history or are you guys deciding on a different theme?

I got a little lost on that part. I think I can clarify. So we're talking about art history in a very open and broad context. context. So instead of just thinking about European art history, which is, at least in my mind, that's how it's usually framed. So we're talking about the Renaissance and Picasso and Gauguin and these very famous artists. But what I'm suggesting is we think about art history in global terms and the different kinds of cultural art making that might come from Latin America or Africa or Asia or other parts of the world and not just what we think of as this more narrowly focused art history. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I guess like for some reason I thought it was, the theme was being changed or something.

I think we're gonna narrow it down, put more of an emphasis on the context of it So it kind of has, it's still going to be somewhat of an art history, but we're going to, on the next meeting, we're going to discuss on which way.

The art works, just because this is all new to me, but like these, so it sounds like there's something that happens every year.

It's every two years and there's sculptural or works that are for the public realm. So we'll be doing a call for that. And I'll give you information after the meeting or actually I'll email it all to you. And I'm happy to connect on it.

The idea is this is all outdoor art that is placed downtown and in Railroad Square. So you can walk around and see all of these outdoor artworks.

And interact with it.

So this year's

um theme is art history is what you guys are saying right it would be um the call for art would be opening this year and the installs would actually happen in a year oh because it takes time yeah so we're just discussing right now what the project plan is for the um artworks yeah and and i i would say that we might reconsider maybe the term we use is something

Maybe we think of the theme as we want artists to be submitting work that is inspired by an artist or an art movement from history or something like that.

We could even ask for when the artists submit a statement, we can leave it as open-ended as inspiredby.com.

dot and then ask the artist to help us tell a story yeah i think i have that in the um submission requirements yeah statement non-inspired by 150 word maximum statement so but even just leaving the title i agree i like that i'll bring it back in september like that inspired by dot dot dot and you know tell the story of your inspiration like

Why this piece? Roman, I appreciate these questions because it gives us an idea on how we're perceived or how we're explaining ourselves. And since the public is going to be seeing us and want to know, your questions is going to make it clear to the general audience.

Yeah, I think that's a really good point. Sometimes we get locked in our vocabulary or whatever. Yes.

And, you know, I think that people already know certain kinds of what the projects are and what we've built up to.

In other words, in this RFP, no art speak aloud.

No jargon.

No jargon.

There's the title.

How long do the pieces stay out usually? Two years. So there's some... out there right now. Yeah.

And I can, again, I can, I'll send you a permission for that since it's a public comment section.

So if you see art, especially at Rhodes Square or in downtown, in 4th Street, in the areas and stuff, there's a lot of temporary art there. And that's, we came from this.

Yeah. So there's nine artworks currently on view as Meredith explained earlier.

So have you seen the Burnt Tree?

um i don't i'm not sure like that's why i feel like i have to drive by there because like walk around downtown and you know take a look at the website you know get maybe get it up on your phone and then you can walk around and see all these things they're in courthouse square um jeju alley is the alley right next to where russian river brewery is There's a piece in front of the museum on 7th Street. Oh, they're kind of spread out. They're spread out. They're all spread out.

In my mind, I'm picturing all these statues side by side. They're all over the place.

We can't do too much back and forth.

A lot of people walk by, will comment, and just be like, oh, I thought that was supposed to be there. That's probably what happened.

I probably just thought it was there.

Thank you for the reminder about our parliamentary procedure. So i am closing the public comments portion of this discussion and uh we are up to a point where we need to entertain a motion um about the temporary artwork project so uh would somebody like to make a motion to approve the 2027 20 20 29 temporary artwork project plan before we make a motion can i make a clarification okay so what we're looking at today

there would be different language. This is just the project plan. And what you would share with us next time is a different document.

Yes, I would come back with a call for our language. And then we'll review that together before I make that live.

And so we're looking at the plan, but not the prospectus. Yes. OK. OK, so back to the Business at hand. We need, hopefully, we need a motion to approve the 2027-29 temporary art walk project plan recommended by staff. Anybody?

With your... Your recommendation, what did you say again? It's to... No, for Kristen.

Oh, so I was clarifying that this is the project plan and next time we're going to review the language for the call for March. So this is approving of this.

On top of that, you didn't want anything specifically changed with the plan, correct?

Well, the plan is draft.

Yes. No, no, no. I get that, but I thought...

I agree with this timeline. We know that things will be subject to shifting with the dates. But I think we're looking at the estimated total project budget. And this is expected to cost less than what we spent last year. So I'm looking at those are the things that I'm looking at. I'll be bringing forward the language to be satisfied with where we are.

And if somebody would like to make the motion contingent upon changes to be presented at the next meeting, I think that would be appropriate.

Oh, I will go ahead and make a motion for the 29 temporary art walk project plan to approve the funding.

Great. It's been moved by Lisa. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Nancy, thank you very much. Okay. Any additional discussion before we vote? Okay. Hearing none, Jeff, would you please take a vote?

Absolutely. Committee member Puentes? Yes. Chair Nathanson? Yes. Vice Chair Keefer?

Yes.

And Committee Member Trejo-Vasquez?

Yes.

Let the record reflect and the motion passes unanimously.

Great. Thank you all. Good discussion. Okay. We are up to Item 7.3, the Brookwood Mural Design Act.

I have been working with Art Start on the mural at the police station. And I apologize, I attached this and I did not attach an overview of the project of the history of this, I'm realizing. It was last year that they received, we went to an RFP process and then they were approved here at APPC to implement the mural at the police station. And the feedback from APPC when that was approved was there was, um, was to fill in some more of the spots on the fence. Um, cause it's a very large, long black fence on Brookwood Ave. Um, it's, it's about 280 feet. Um, originally we thought it was 200 feet. So it is very long and, um, art start and the contract did take a while with that. Um, and they've been now starting on these roses. I was able to go there end of last week, so I wasn't able to put the photos I took in this.

It's really awesome what the kids are working on, honestly.

It was more than I expected to see. It was neat to see them tracing the roses and all the hands-on painting the leaves, et cetera. This is a very long mural, as you can imagine. The budget's only $9,000 for this from the police station. So working with Heather, who's the director at ArtStart, when they start to approach filling it in with the leaves, they're also looking at costs associated with this. And so they gave me the attached couple designs to review, and that's why I want to bring it to you as a discussion and approval item, because it does look like there could potentially be some design changes in this. So today I'll review each of these and then we'll open it up for a discussion. So the option A was more foliage on the bottom, which was originally recommended by APPC. This does come with a lot larger costs. They're using a polytap fabric, and so they're all painting it at ArtStart and then cutting it out. So this is an increase in material costs. They do have concerns on funding. I haven't addressed that portion with ArtStart yet or the police station. I'm meeting with the police station tomorrow, a team, and potentially I may bring back to APPC a request for a little bit more funding for this project. But again, we have to address the budgets, etc., So option A is additional foliage at the bottom. And here you can see what it would look like in length. Option B is dynamic motion. Background image representing motion, water, wave, air. And the color can also potentially change a little bit if there's maybe a different blue, et cetera, that will all be a discussion item. This would be painted directly on the fence. So they would go first and paint the blue anti-graffiti coated or actually potentially anti-graffiti coated after the flowers are on. So that's a less expensive way than doing the polytap fabric, cutting those leaves out. And I did run these by the police chief and this one was his choice. Option C is using the fence bridges as an integral part of the design and vertical stripes that create visual gradation of the three colors. There's option three. So for today, I'd like to open it up to I'm just going to go back to this one. I'd like to open it up to discussion on these designs. and have a recommendation, ideally a decision on how best to guide them moving forward, whether it's an approval of all three designs, whether it's an approval of one. I am, again, meeting with the police team tomorrow morning to review this. We'll also look at funding. And so I'd like to sort of have this discussion if funding wasn't an option, sort of what the design recommendation would be for this.

Okay, thanks Meredith. Can you possibly enlarge this image so we can see the, oh yeah, there you go, excellent. Yeah, okay, Lisa.

Yeah, so I went and rode my bike by this too and just to see, the first one is a lot and it's in your face, more or less, it's kind of like all those flowers are smushed in there. The second one, I think I appreciate the most just because there is that wave, that flow, and it's a sidewalk that's super close to the street. There really is not that much for a bike lane there. And you just want people to keep moving, moving, moving. And that one is, it is called dynamic. And so it is a constant move and it pushes you out there and it pushes, it would push you to go with that flow and continue. And as we can recall, the spokesperson for the police department even said that their reason for putting these walls is because they didn't want people to look at them or look where they're parked or something like that. But anyway, so they just want to keep people flowing and keep them, keep going. And that definitely, the bee does that, that I felt like, whether... because the third option that we have there I think that was C with the vertical lines is definitely makes it a bit more stagnant and where you don't want to move that you're just sitting there and it's not giving even movement to the roses more like almost like B the roses are actually kind of somewhat dancing and wanting to move too with that flow of the blue and That is what I saw, but yeah.

No, those are really good points. Yeah, I see that third option as being, yeah, stagnant or static. I mean, it's just kind of very rigid and it doesn't have that forward motion. And I agree also that design A feels like it's just too dense.

Yes, it's very dense.

Yeah. Okay, thank you for those comments.

Option B is painted on to the...

Just the blue. They would be looking at painting that on first prior to putting the flowers on.

And so the flowers are painted on polytab and cut out.

And then they'll be placed on the site.

Just looking at the three designs, I appreciate them taking the time to do this study for us so that we can have this conversation here. Similarly, I have a preference for the B design. I also think A is a little too busy. I know that was our request was to get more in there, but I think it's too much. And like, Lisa was talking about that site. We really need to think about how people are going to view this while they're moving. And I really like the connection between the creek and the roses, that being very central for my experience for Santa Rosa. I'm like, oh, the creek is the lifeblood of Santa Rosa. So I think that's a really well-designed narrative or like a great way of telling a story without, hopefully without... be too much of a traffic concern. I hope we get some attention for those bike lanes in the future.

Just putting that plug out there.

So Meredith, can we make a reasonable assumption if we recommend B, that it won't increase the budget or at least not by very much?

Any of these is going to increase the budget, I believe. Talking to them, it seems this has been a very big project. It's been a lot of material. So when I meet with the police team tomorrow morning, and then I'm going to connect with Heather over at ArtStart, the last thing I want is to see a nonprofit out of money from doing a project. So I just need to review with her the actual costs and projects, all of this, and then I'll most likely bring back to you a recommendation. It may only be a couple thousand. I mean, most likely, I'm assuming it's even two or three would like really help out because they have all of the artists leads on this.

The police department's not willing to put up front. Oh, I haven't talked to them yet.

I'm meeting with them tomorrow morning. Cause they're, they're providing the funding for this project. They provided $10,000 for this. Um, and there has yet to be any out of arts budget. Um, that's going to be my conversation with them on, um, I can't speak for them. And then, but I'd like to figure a way to move forward. And I would bring that back to PC.

Great. Okay. Any additional questions or comments? Okay.

Would it be helpful for us to put behind you that we are in support of you asking for more input from the police department for a project like this as it is on.

Or more funding. More funding. That's what I mean.

Yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant to say. Let's be specific. I'm just not sure where we can say that.

No, no, I don't want that. Don't beat around the bush. Just ask them for money.

okay um uh public comment oh so i got confused so polyester something or other polytab it's a type of a fabric that actually can they've been using in murals now

It's very durable so you can use it outdoors and then you kind of paste it to the wall. The shape of whatever the object is or something? It comes in sheets. You paint whatever you're painting and then the way they're doing is they're going to cut out the rose shapes and then glue them to the wall. What material is the wall?

It's a fence. It's a corrugated metal fence.

Okay. Because wouldn't it be cheaper, like, if they just, like, how big would each flower be, for example, like, from the image? Like, this big or something, let's say?

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Up to four feet. I mean, they're pretty large on what I've seen.

If it's, like, a repeated image, like, couldn't you, like, get... I'm sure there's a printer that would do it, like stencils or something and use like spray paint. It'd be cheaper, much cheaper, like thousands.

You know, Art Start is a program for youth. And so they're learning painting and public art making techniques. And so I think that's... not a bad comment to give back to their director if there is a way of kind of streamlining the process. But it's a program that's been going on for years and they really do a great job. So one of the things we can do is trust them to use techniques that make the most sense for this particular placement. Okay. Thank you.

Oh, do you need one more question?

Just one more comment. Okay. Oh, I thought, like, the design, it was, like, a little, like, I liked the first one only because it had less color variation. Like, it was too overwhelming. Like, it would be cool if it was just, like, green and, like, red and white or something like that because it becomes so, like, almost like a pinata. It was very, like... and the idea was cool to have that streak because you guys said you wanted like moving right so like what if it was like a vine and the roses were like on the vine because i noticed that it didn't take advantage of negative space at all in any of them like it was like you didn't get time to breathe in any of the examples it seemed like you know interesting thank you okay um

public comment is closed and let us entertain a motion to approve a recommended design for the Brookwood mural. So would anybody like to make a motion to approve this?

Do we have to choose what design specific? I think everyone decided on B. You can just do B, that's fine.

Yeah, I think an appropriate motion, since we all agree, is to move to approve the mural design based on option B. I'll make a motion to approve the mural design option B. Okay, for the Brookwood Mural Project.

Project. I'll second that.

Okay. It's been moved by Nancy and seconded by Lisa. Any additional discussion?

In terms of a quick point regarding the color of the blue, if that could be a little not as bright as we saw in that image, I do think that that is... I like... I like the addition of the blue stripe, but if it could be just thought about in terms of its darkness and how bright it is against the color of the roses, I don't want it to take away from the roses. I would like it to be kind of like a background image.

And it's supposed to symbolize the creek, right? So, you know, maybe that's slightly...

It's not that bright. Yeah.

We know that. Artistic liberties and all. Right, right.

But yeah, I think a variation on the blue is, that doesn't have to be part of the motion, but it certainly can be a feedback comment. I agree with you, Kristen. And the public comment about maybe some of the roses could be on a vine might be an interesting bit of feedback too. And then let the artists figure out what to do with it. Okay, it has been moved and seconded to approve the Brookwood mural design based on option number B. Jack, would you please take a vote?

Committee Member Puentes?

Yes.

Chair Nathanson? Yes. Vice Chair Keefer?

Yes.

Committee Member Trejo-Vasquez? Yes. I let the record reflect. Motion passes unanimously.

All right. Thank you all. Okay, we're up to item number 7.4, Arts and Culture Update. Meredith, will you present your update, please?

Yes, and I don't have any slides today. Just a couple items I wanted to review with you. One is Live at Juilliard. We've had four successful concerts. Yesterday was a little lower in attendance. We had the air quality advisory on Friday. All of our rec and parks events were canceled outside. So I think maybe yesterday I would say around 700 or so. But the weekends before have been pretty packed. looking at probably 1,500 plus. So I'd really encourage you, if you can, get out there. If you are around and you'd like to help, we can always use help at the end, moving trash cans, et cetera. We have our APPC tent. So we're answering questions on the art walk, how to apply for a call for art, and other ideas community members have. So it's been really great and encouraging. For our information. How many more? Two. Okay. Yeah, two. Five to seven, Juilliard Park on Sundays. And that, a solid update. So the last Economic Development Subcommittee meeting, I brought forward the stage concept as a discussion item because we received in a letter from the Downtown Action Organization in support of of the stage concept. As I've come before you before here, we have full support from Asawa family on moving forward with a new concept for the panel. Six panels have been fully completed and I'm not sure if I've noted that here. So we have six panels that are now going to be moving up here to Santa Rosa. The recommendation from EconDev Sub was for APPC involvement. I didn't have it in a slide today. I'm now working with the Downtown Action Organization on what that looks like. And so I expect it to be coming forth to you in the next month or two, more of an update on your involvement as we continue to move that forward. So it's really exciting. I think everyone's really excited that six of the panels have been poured. Next Monday at Economic Development Subcommittee, I'm also bringing forward the discussion on temporary displaying these panels. And then I would also be bringing that forward here most likely in September on what a what a display would look like, what are some potential locations, because, as we know, a stage or any permanent placement of these panels will take some time. And it's such a beloved community piece, I'd really like to see these get out in public. So I'll be bringing that forward most likely in September as a discussion item. And then as I work with the downtown action organization on the APPC involvement. And with that, we have the film programs been going very well. I'm not sure if you saw on the news, we had a film that was filming downtown that had portrayed ICE agents. And so the city did a public notice on that. I was there for the film until 11.30 p.m. Oh, wow. with the filmmakers um out of one I am I wanted to ensure that any community member walking by didn't know that it was just a film and then I was also wanted to speak with them as well about um film in general and sort of their thoughts it was really encouraging and it was actually um really neat to speak with community members one it's a it's a sensitive subject and we're aware of that and that's why the city took the precautions like we did um it also brought up I think a lot of um one, great things about film and also how Santa Rosa is taking the lead on these subjects are a lot of people's truth. And it's important that they are discussed and that, you know, that's sort of what art also is. It's a lot of things that are actually happening for people. So we've seen a lot of more, I guess you call it, hits with our analytics to our film website. And I plan on doing a film impact report towards the end of the year on our film program We've been receiving a lot of commercials, et cetera. And I do plan on doing another film mixer, most likely in October. So I'll be bringing that forward. And other than that, I think those are my updates for today.

Great. Thank you. Any questions for Meredith on her report? Okay, great. We are up to item number eight, committee reports. Any

I am working with the Santa Rosa Urban Arts Partnership to put out information about the Santa Rosa Open Studios that will be taking place two weekends in September. They are September 13th, 12th and 13th, and then also the following weekend, September 19th and 20th. Those are the dates where you'll be able to go to these artists' studios and visit. I am promoting...

Where are these studios at?

So if you go to the Santa Rosa Urban Arts Partnership website, you can click on Open Studios, and that will take you to a map of all of the artists' locations. Okay.

And they're mostly within Santa Rosa?

They're in the Santa Rosa city limits.

Okay.

Correct. Got it.

Thank you.

If not in the city limits, then right outside. Okay. And right now there is a preview show going on, preview exhibit going on at the Finley Center. It's going on for another month. And it's a unique opportunity to see a preview of all of these artists in one space. So you're seeing 50 different artists together in one show, similar to how the National Arts Program show was. And then we will be having an exhibit party on the 2nd and I'll leave these with Meredith and I can email her and ask her to send them to you. But I would love to invite everyone to attend. We are having a reception on Wednesday, September 2nd, Wednesday, September 2nd at the Finley Center. We'll have live music refreshments there. And we're inviting our guests to dress up and be part of a passport program where folks can get a passport and if they take it to the studios, they can get it stamped at different places.

And then we get a free beer?

We'll tell you more information at our party. Please stay tuned for Open Studios. We have a show at the Finley Center. I plan to go again this week. I've already gone once and I'm like, wait, I need to go again so I can see it all.

Thank you, Kristen. And I'll just mention that I've heard now a couple of times Spring Mastfield, who is the director of Santa Rosa Urban Arts Partnership, has been on the radio promoting this.

She's on the Crush radio station every Wednesday morning, is doing a kind of a little spot about the state of art or what we should.

Yeah, and it's good. She does a really good job. So yeah, just thought I'd mention that.

I love working with her.

Great, great. Okay, good. Anything else going on? Okay, I think that wraps it up. Thank you, everyone. This meeting is adjourned.

There we go.