City Council - Special Meeting

Uh, I guess I'll do the roll call. Um, uh, Mayor Pro Tim, Dana Marks here. Council member Janette here. Council member Shrader here. Council member Mckame here.

Council member Dickerson excused. He'll be a little late. And of course, Mayor Brandon Noto here. Uh before we get into the business, I'd just like to uh take a moment in prayer before we get started. Heavenly Father, we thank you for this beautiful day uh that you have created for us and we just ask that you would bless us as we go out about the business of the city. Father, your word tells us to give Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. And so, uh, as we decide what Caesar gets this morning, we just ask that you would bless us with your wisdom and your discernment. Father, that everything that we do, uh, would be pleasing to you and according to your will. In Jesus name, amen.

All right. Item number three, business one, presentation, discussion, and direction, future capital projects to be included in the city's budget for fiscal year 2026 2027. Mr. Rudy, how are you, sir? Good morning, mayor, council. Thank you very much for joining me this morning. So, uh, what we have this morning is well, uh, all squirt, uh, we've got nothing. Clean slate. Clean slate. Uh, it is downloading a clean slate. Okay,

Rudy has overloaded Excel. Excel. Didn't even know they could do try events here about uh Tman offered I don't know how many billion to buy Caesar's entertainment yesterday really yes Vegas wow okay here we go here we go sorry about that gentlemen

I So every year we start off the budget process with um discussion on capital and future projects. This future capital uh CIP will be in the budget for 2027. And we have a couple of sheets that shouldn't go terribly long. These are most of these come from last year. So if you take a look at screen, we've got capital projects for 2027 fiscal year. And included in this sheet, you'll see for fiscal years uh 28 through 31 as well. And this forms the core of our CIP that is included in our budget and is adopted separately by council every year. It's uh the long-term plan of future capital projects that we put together with staff. These have changed a little bit. The green are from last year. The purple have changed a little bit from uh last year with the the help of the city manager and staff to align better with the uh the new CI the new strategic plan that's being developed. So, what this discussion is going to be today is to try to get council's input on whether or not um these are going to be something we want to consider to include in the budget. Um or if it's uh reasonable to include in the five-year plan at all, and if so, at what denominations and um you know, at what years would you like to see them? So, for example, uh Georgia may want a swimming pool because she got a lot of requests from the the citizens

that they want a swimming pool and so she puts that in here. Council says, "Well, that's not in this reality." So, it's not even going to show up. So, they'll take that off. But in some cases, it may be something down here in 2031. We might look at considering that as a capital project. Uh that's what this discussion is. Do we want it even on a long-term plan? And if so, do we want to consider it as part of the 27th? This does not mean that this is what's going to be in the budget. This means this these are the items that we consider important for uh inclusion in both the CIP and the budget. So, we'll go through each one of these and we have the experts in the departments here to answer any questions particularly. Um, as you know, we have remodeling u that we had suggested last year about 50,000 uh two years in a row for 50,000 uh for here at city hall. We're not considering um building a new one uh or there's no appetite for us going out and and getting a new building at this time. So, we're looking at remodeling city hall to allow for additional growth over the next uh years.

So, a gentleman for the city hall remodel um the reason I had him up that to 250,000 is because it's a part of our strategic plan um that you guys um uh it will come before you at the next meeting uh for approval. Um but it is a portion of that plan. So, the items that I changed in here were items that were in the strategic plan or there's been some some slight price increases or price decreases. So, we wanted to be um in line um with more accurate pricing. Uh but for the city hall remodel, uh the reason for the 250,000 um is um a portion of that is breaking the exterior uh of this building. Um, I feel that it will make it uh better match um our downtown corridor and it will um bring the city back to what it used to look like um years ago before uh the stucco uh was put on uh the side of the building. Um so that is a big portion of that and maybe potentially adding some windows, changing out the windows that are here um bringing them up to a better grade. Um, you know, in addition to, uh, some of the changes that we would like to make, uh, within city hall, uh, with this remodel, there won't be, um, much changing of of walls, per se, just because I I think there's other issues that we don't want to run into with with moving walls. So, um, it it would uh be a a light remodel of just the, you know, of of the areas that we have now. Um, I do think that 250,000 will cover it, but um, uh, so I will leave that up to you guys on, uh, on that city hall remodel, but it is a part of our strategic plan. Um, and like I said, I do feel for the exterior of the building, it would be fantastic to change it. I think that it would change our downtown corridor um, and make it look like a city hall.

Are we still planning on moving council chambers to the justice center? um that is in, you know, in the plans to to do so, but um with this $250,000 remodel, it's not. It's to keep what we have currently um uh in place um and just to upgrade. So, um as you can see in here, uh there there is definitely a need um for a flooring upgrade. Um you know, I would not suggest putting in carpet or even carpet tiles um in the future when we could do, you know, like an LVP or something like that. um on the ground, but um u that would definitely be an option um pending your approval. If if we would move forward with the justice center of doing that, I would love to do that. Um but you know, financially it would be a little tight.

What is the expense to make that move, Seth?

To go over there. Um, I mean, I don't have exact numbers for you, um, Mor Proin, but, um, I would think somewhere in the ballpark of, uh, 25 to 50,000 just to upgrade the equipment over there and then over here, that number would be about the same. So, keeping the 250 here to redo this building. I mean, we could we could do it, you know, over years, so we wouldn't have to upgrade everything at one time. And so we could use that money for that to upgrade the facilities over there that we need to and then use the remainder of that funding here uh to you know upgrade a little bit every year. Um but for 27 that would be you know

and that's that's kind of why I asked a question if a portion of that could whatever the minimum would be to move us over there for the meetings. Yes. Then the remainder come over here and we can do what we can. Okay. And then next year pick up the balance of what we need to do at both. All right. I'm all good for that. Uh I mean that gets you moving here in the direction you want to go instead of us occupying this part of the building. Absolutely. Any other thoughts guys on that?

No. I mean um you know not having our council meetings at city hall is is you know not ideal obviously but um just kind of the situation that we're in I guess. Um that's the only reason I is because we talked about it in strategic planning about uh sectioning this off for future offices and stuff and then making that to conference. Yeah. So, what's the We're going to spend money on this place. This is one area I I want council chambers to look like professional council chas. We only have a plaque behind us saying where the city is saying. Well, those maroon drapes are very

maroon, you know. What's the negative impact over there? I mean, I practically there's not. It's just the idea of not having your council meetings at city hall. I mean, I don't know any other city that has their council meetings somewhere else besides city hall, but practically there's no disadvantage. You there's not. It's just logistics. This doesn't seem right. logistics of moving all the equipment and then uh the the there's an advantage of having our server uh here in the server room, right? But, you know, it also doesn't make any sense practically to have this room sit vacant 95% of the time, right?

When they're all crammed in like, you know, sardines on the other end of city hall. So, yeah, it's not that I'm opposed to it at all. I mean, obviously, we and we we're not going to get a new city hall. We face the same thing over there with that chamber sitting empty, right? the bulk of the time and a lot more parking. But okay, it is a lot more parking. Something to talk to and nicer facilities. Yeah, we'll just have to make sure we can get the the maroon uh drapes over there orange one. I'll do orange one, too. I was thinking restroom for the restroom.

You know, we're being video. That's where we put all the Mayor Pro Tim. That's where we put all the former Mayor Pro 10 pictures, too, is in the register. Wait a minute. So, as you can see, uh going further, we have community services. Um the the vehicle they have planned, that's just a continuation from the prior year. Um so now, Miss, can I ask a question on that real quick? Sure. So I assume that money is there for purchase of new. Have we looked at does the PD? We were talking about pulling those out earlier.

We are. So we're looking at it. This is just from the prior years that y'all have pushed and that's why we left it on there. But that is absolutely. So everything today, guys, this is just putting it on the plan. It It's not that this is going to be funded. This is not set in stone. It just gives us a basis to work from the budget. So you're correct, though. We are looking at pulling one of the PD Taho to put over there. Um but we can definitely take that off cuz um that's that's the plan for right now is to just utilize one of those. Um we have put up for auction, you know, that uh the the the charger and um and I'll leave that where it is.

Okay. Parking lot is uh still on track uh for fiscal year 29. library. I don't know if we can wait till 29 at least expansion if we do anything. Yeah, if we do anything uh remodeling of the library offices is here 35.

Um the air conditioning has been removed because that was replaced the condenser was replaced last year in that emergency funding request. So that is no longer there. Uh the remodeling of the bathrooms at library are are here as well. Um we'll get some additional figures before we finalize the CIP or some Yeah, cuz for that we might can do that. I feel like a little bit of less for a little bit less potentially on on that. So um you know we'll we'll we'll come up with some I think more cost effective ways to to do both of those as much as we can. You know what are you talking about? I guess at some point

remodeling the kitchen. I feel like that we could go with, you know, a um I don't think it's going to be 35,000. I know that's what it was budgeted for, but I think we could do it for less than that. As I I've done this, you know, at two facilities in Georgia before coming here and it did not cost me that to do that. So So I guess at some point Becky or somebody will explain what that is, what that remodel details. Yeah. I mean,

yes, sir. the the remodeled kitchen for 20,000. That is actually the kitchen that's in the meeting room that was just uh damaged from water. So, I have warped B uh cabinets in there. And so, um I that amount is just it has a $4,000 cushion in it for labor, but I already have gone to Home Depot and Lowe's, looked at cabinet and um the backsplash and everything. And that's the it's a little bit padded just because of labor because I didn't know how much the labor was going to be. But I already have details in the I've given Rudy the details for cabinets, uh, backsplash, uh, the countertop, the sink, and um, things that we need in that room, but it's already I mean, it's dried out. I dried it out with uh, fans and things, but the cabinets we're storing food and stuff on the floor because

if that was due to a water leak, did insurance not cover up? No. No, I don't believe so because it was too it was there wasn't enough there to meet the deductibles. My understanding. What is your parts list so far? What you just said? I don't care about the labor. What do you What are you in on hard materials? I think it I don't have it in front of me, but I'm thinking it's 15 16 right in there. But that's with the backsplashing. Not the gold ones, I promise. So, you're saying there wasn't it wasn't enough to meet deductible? Yes, sir. I I believe so. We didn't It wasn't There wasn't enough damage there. It's just the bottom the bottom cabinets where our the water was there. So yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure it was before my time here. So

So the the 35,000 is more than just bringing it back to where it was. Well, that's is that 35 or 20? 35. Oh, no. It was supposed the 30 if it says I can't see it. So if it says kitchens, that's both kitchens, not one. So I'm looking at repairing the meeting room kitchen this year. Um, and that's like in the 50 50. Thanks. We'll uh we'll keep moving because I'm sure at some point the departments will come back and discuss.

Correct. Right. Absolutely. These are just to go through today what we have. Um, next is park improvements. And so that is for inclusive of all of our parks is that 100,000 um on that. So um you guys know that we've got you know needs across the board uh for our parks. So, that may be something that that we need to consider upping that amount um uh especially with um uh some of our parks that are not developed. If we're going to if we choose to uh try to develop those parks, um keeping that, you know, um peacemealing it every year uh together is where we're going to have to have to be at. But, um thankfully, we've got that grant coming in for Runi. Um but but even with that um I know each of you guys know that a million dollars can go really quick. So um but this will you know be to continue to provide infrastructure. All right. Next is for uh Joe Timberallaf to add you know that's been on the list to to do cameras and lighting out there. Um I definitely think that there's a lighting need. I've heard that from several residents um out at the trail especially out there. Um I think that that's a um a much needed item. Um so um looking at at doing that and then adding some some cameras up there which of course will come to y'all for for approval. But any questions on on any of the parks?

Sounds like we're good. All right. So, next we have Chief here to discuss uh the flop cameras, but it's a continuation again from last year um and the the the need to include those in our law enforcement equipment and Chief, that's including for at least a for a year or two for the because I know it's the the not just the the cost of purchasing them, but the subscription for the Correct.

Correct. So, uh I believe that number is seven cameras. It's not necessarily have to be seven cameras. Uh whenever we had our original meeting with Flock Safety, that was just what they recommended. Um since then, the county has actually put up some cameras so we could supplement that. Um but the 50,000 could potentially cover the installation of four or five cameras and then the service fees for the next two fiscal years. Perfect.

So, we can modify that and discuss that further if that's what y'all would like to determine the amount of cameras. Initial install per camera is $3500 and then it's $3,000 a year after that. And they do everything. They they do all the maintenance. They do all the upgrades. It's all inclusive of that $3,000 per camera. If a camera goes out and something goes bad, they replace it. No questions asked. As long as we pay that $3,000 per camera. 3,000 per camera, not 3,000 for the system per year. That's right. Correct. Reoccurring every year is 3,000 per camera.

It's extremely high. Um I will tell you a lot of um communities are even going to putting the flock cameras um in their parks as well. Um which I think is interesting. You've got to have a lot of money. Unfortunately, we don't we don't have that that kind of funding. But um but what we do have putting them on, you know, our roadways um and you know, even if it was to start with, you know, maybe three cameras or four cameras so we could cover 646 North at Second Street and then 646 South down around 32nd Street where the city limits end, we are at least covered there.

Um those are two uncovered exits of the city right now. Uh there are cameras currently on the east end and on the west end that uh were put up by the sheriff's office

and that by by getting into the game with Flock, we then can do requests to the other police agencies in the county and have access to all of their cameras as well. But we have to put skin in the game. I've never been a big fan of flock before, but this last year and seeing some of the cities of the Hill Country go to it and just seeing what they've done around here and how fast they apprehend a person,

you know, I've kind of changed my my thought process on the plot cameras. And I I can see where, you know, it opens us up to everybody else in the in the area, but it it's really a statewide safety plan. I mean, it it's it's being a good uh a good city for the state. Good partner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chief, there's no expense for the shared cameras. Is that correct? It's a courtesy. That's correct. So what what they require is that you're inputting data into the system and then you get access to the system, right? Regardless of how many cameras you have to input

uh I think he he said probably two minimum.

Okay. So, um, and again, we've we've we've actually borrowed loginins from neighboring cities, and I we talked about it last year, but we had a jugging at CVS here in Santa Fe, which is where they eye the person at the bank, getting money out from the bank, follow them to the next location, and then rob them. And we had a jugging in Santa Fe. We were able to locate the vehicle using another agency's login. And then to build the case on the back end after we had the suspect in custody, we were able to prove by using League City's flock cameras and Dickinson's flock cameras that that vehicle did in fact follow our citizen from League City from the bank and followed them all the way to Santa Fe where obviously there's there's not cameras, but to the to the location and and actually commit a crime against them. and we were able to put all that together using the plot cameras and present that to the DA's office to build a stronger case. So, it's a great investigative tool. It hits on warrants. It hits on stolen vehicles. And so, as long as you're logged into the system and a camera within your city or your radius that you have set up by a geoence, if it hits a stolen vehicle, it sends you alert immediately as soon as that camera hits that car. or if it if somebody has a warrant and it's registered to that vehicle, then it hits on that vehicle and sends logged in users an alert that this vehicle could possibly be carrying somebody with a felony warrant.

Does the city of Hitchcock have any plot cameras?

I don't believe so. I believe that the ones that are near the city of Hitchcock are by the Galveston County Sheriff's Office. I'm not 100% sure though. Yeah, you know, you you hit on something on that south end of town off 646 going to 24. Uh with the amount of development we have back in on that side of town, you know, that's quick. And you see all these rings and stuff getting busted over in Rosoria and Angleton, you know, uh when they crime when they bust the four-wheeler rings and boats and trailers and stuff like that. And I I think that that's the south end of town is for sure something we're going to have to lock up. I lost a tractor trailer out that way. And I know that's the way they went. They're nothing to do. I mean, they got too many ways to get away once they get out there.

Yeah.

All right. So, next it with the PD, we have the replacement of the IT backup system. It's a battery backup system that they have. who was originally installed, my understanding is with the building and uh with the specs that were taken from the device uh last week was able to come up with some addition some newer numbers. I think the price of batteries have come down dramatically. So we had originally thought it would be like a 100,000 but um some of the ones I found uh with installation probably are not going to be more than 50,000. So that with the same rating uh we're getting final estimates from PC and cable uh who are our IT vendor they they've always done a really great job for us but that's uh that's the initial value for replacing that. So our current backup system is uh is on its last leg. It's probably what this about 12 13 years old. So, when we go to the PD's actual portion of the budget, you're going to see a line item for battery replacement for the IT backup system. It's going to cost us roughly $5 to $6,000 this year to replace the batteries inside that backup system if we do not completely replace it altogether. Th

this is something this to me is is not, you know, a want at all. This is an extreme need. Um, and so I'm glad that it's in the budget. Luckily, we were able to get that price, you know, down significantly. Um, but it's something that we're going to have to do. uh the backup system u functions as a backup not only for the PD um and its critical systems but our um our network our citywide network for city hall as well and that's just the battery backup the UPS

and then we have our patrol rifles which continuation from last year and uh chief will talk about that more in detail perhaps when we get to the department budgets later on in the process. Um, and then his police cars, which is a replacement um, next, which is the same amount that we had before. With that, I think we can we can get what we say four four.

We can get four with that. And that's uh, that's great. Uh, really be cutting it close, but um, but I think we can probably make it work with that if not maybe a couple thousand dollars differential. And of course the handheld radios which um is a continuation of the replacement costs from the current year which we've already received. Is that right?

Correct. We purchased six in this year's in the 26 budget and uh we're slated to purchase six more for the capital improvement plan if you guys approve it. So, this next item going to street paving, it was uh it's been historically 200,000. Um I have doubled that number. I of of all the items on this list, I feel that it's of most importance um is for us to u to to go after more streets in the city. Um it's my perception that um we're not where we should be. And so um $400,000 uh for this year will get us closer to where we need to be. We've got a lot of a lot of roads across the city uh that that need to be um uh resurfaced. And so um to me uh I I believe we needed to double that number. Um you know it was uh we talked about a little bit strategic planning um on paving. Uh and so it's my recommendation that we double that number um and also increase you know um to 300,000 um at least year after year. But I do believe that for this year that 400's needed um to do what we need to do uh in the city. Um do I think that'll cover everything? Absolutely not. But um it'll give us a good a good start.

I think a lot of it too is price increases. So we're not nearly getting right now. 10 years ago we was at $44 a ton for asphalt. Right now we're at $120 a ton for asphalt. 300%. I'm only I'm only averaging with $200,000. I'm I'm not even getting a mile road. I'm like 88.99. You know, we're only a little over 4,000. Lean your feet a road. I'm getting what? $200,000. Everything's about to go up on that in building. Yes, sir. I guess a question uh to get back into the police deal that I've had a couple of of council men members bring up to me.

Yeah. And so a joint question I guess for either Seth or Shores or whoever wants to take it is what is the what is the the cost of uh pushing the replacement schedule of the police cars out a year. Um a little bit more wear and tear on the vehicles, a little bit more maintenance, and then in the event we do decide to auction them, we could see less at auction. I think our schedule shows as six years. So, right now we're doing a six-year uh replacement schedule on the vehicles. That's where we're at.

And so, like the ones that are going to be coming out of service shortly are right around the 75,000 mark. Man, I wish I got a new truck every 75,000 miles. I think everybody up here knows that we're going to have to push some of these numbers. We're going to have to You can already take Chipper off. I mean, I don't see you know, we're talking about, you know, I I'm 100% on on the uh the Taho and stuff at 75 miles. I mean, is it like there's a 100,000 milei warranty and we don't want to take them over 100,000 or we lose the warranty or what's

whenever we bought these vehicles, they came with a 100,000 milei powertrain warranty. So really once we start getting out of that 100,000 range is when we start and with resale I mean when you hit 100,000 it it decreases significantly um just when we auction these vehicles off and um you know but you know pushing it out I mean the vehicles to go to 100,000 I know that most um um I don't know about cities but I know counties that that's for for police vehicles not for you know our our like community service vehicles or um some of the regular city vehicles they they can go, you know, to 150, 200,000 miles, no problem. Uh but for police vehicles, it's typically that 100,000 mile mark. Um

no, no. I mean, they got to they got to work and they got to be able to get up and go. Correct. So, but you know, if they're getting 75,000 miles on them in 6 years, that's 12,500 a year. You multiply that seven. So, you push them out an extra year, that's only 875. And it has you do it, you know. So, and that gives us another year. I mean, that just gives us some wiggle room, that's 318,000 there that, you know, we can then

Well, if we, let's say we went from four vehicles, because that's essentially what we're getting right now to go into maybe one vehicle. Um, just so that way that we are getting these vehicles year. That way, we're not, you know, I don't want to run into the issue again that we have right now that all of our vehicles are, and forgive me if I don't have the year right, 2021 or 2022, that they're all the same year model. I think that that's, you know, they all come up at the same time. Um, so if if we do that that I think that, you know, we could definitely, you know, push that out of here, but at least with one. Um, let's move forward with um I know we were slated for what was it? Two this year or four this year. And how many have we gotten thus far? Oh, this year. Yes. You're wearing right now. We bought two. Two. That's correct.

So, let me ask throughout that. Oh, go ahead, D. I'm sorry. No, let me ask a question. So, currently we're targeting 75,000 for four of them this year. Are the ones next year going to be at 75 or are they going to be beyond that based on the fact that they were all purchased around the same time in the beginning? They're probably going to be really close to it, maybe a little bit more than the 75. Mhm. So, that's just the highest two right now. Uh I believe here's what

one is at 77 and one is at 75. Then I believe the ones after that are in the 60s right now. Here's what I want to avoid is like Brandon's talking about pushing them out a year. That's going to put us at 85 87 on that four. But if the ones right behind it coming up in 28 are at the same they're going to hit the 100 mark if we push everything. Right. Sure. But for today, remember guys, this is not, you know, we're not making any, you know, this is not set in stone for the budget. This is just, you know, what we what we do every um what we what we've got for the next 5 years on our plan. You know, sometimes um

can we get a list of the uh patrol vehicles and what the mileage is on them? Absolutely. Each one of them. Yeah. The only thing we would have to update on that list that Rudy just had up would be current mileage. Mhm. I've also heard uh size of the tacos, why we need a large tahoe when the other I don't think we're going to go back with tacos, are we? I don't durangos. Uh you're looking at about a $7,000 price tag difference in the vehicle initially purchased between Taho and Durangos. I'm just thinking the maintenance on them. Um

I know the Taho are heavier. Braking rotors. I know that has to wear. Yeah, there's there's a lot of wear on those brakes and it's expensive and and you know trying to get our fleet all in alignment as well where we have just one singular fleet. That's why going to the Durango and you know they've all got the Hemi in them. um which is you know proven engine which I know Taho is a 5.3. That's right. So under consideration then is just to take this whole line and move it over one uh

just that way we can and then we'll we'll take a look and see what what the mileage is on these vehicles coming up here. Yeah, let's keep that and then we, you know, as we get further into budget, we'll, you know, we'll make those changes um down the road, but let's not knock it for for now. Um, and Chief, are we comfortable with the radios that fouryear span? Uh, yes, sir. Yeah, we'll be doing okay with that. That over the last three, the radios will still be operable while we're waiting on new ones. Yes, sir.

Okay. And chief, I went ahead and put in the start of replacing the earlier radios from this fiscal year. I guess back here at 37 because they'll be ready to be replaced by then, right? It's like it's like 10 years, you know, because they I think the the equipment lasts about 10 years. Yes, sir. Okay. That's what I had. This council may still be here. Who knows? No. One of us may not even be alive then. old as I am. We're going to pray about you. I'm glad you played that. We'll have to have our council meetings at the victorious living. Yeah, we got this living.

Well, it's about to happen. So, Oh, Lord Lord. All right. Now, um the u the 750,000 set that we got from the EDC for is that just drainage? That's no paving. That's correct. That's just drainage. Yeah. that chipper right there.

I mean, I know it's needed. I know how the environment, you know, as far as put great stuff in that dump's going to go from now on. But I'm going to say it like I said it last time, that is something that we need, and we've talked about this working. I mean, I don't know what Dickinson's I mean, Hitchcock's future is, but if something we could work with like maybe dickence in Lake City and getting like an interlocal agreement where we can all go in and buy one that benefits all of us because I mean that's that's a cheap one right there. U I I would I just can't see spending that much money for something that's going to be used on an as needed basis and as needed is a storm basically. I know we have a lot of other stuff we can handle that through our budget, but I mean we're in it's going to be hard to get these budget numbers this year, right? And that's a lot of money.

Bill, you mentioned we can't burn it anymore. Correct. Correct. So, we want to can still consider it on a a long-term CIP option. I would look into seeing, you know, Seth has talked about this. We used to do this with the county all the time. interlocal contracts if we could I mean if we would all meet at the same time well we'd have to have we'd have to have a a a place where we could you know we'd have to figure out this in advance a place that we could haul stuff to

you know that would be kind of beneficial to both of us. Well, maybe we do it, you know, with the with the county as well because I mean really they're the only ones and I'm thinking off the top of my head, not the county be willing to do it, but Jack Brooks Park because they've got the room if we had to take, you know, that. But the only problem is is like everybody's saying, I think it would be difficult because we're all going to need it. And I think we're all going to be, let's say it's just me and Dickinson. I can tell you me and Chase are both going to be fighting for you. Well, you have to stage it set. I mean, you just I don't know if you flip a coin or pull a straw or what. Well, during barrel, uh, they sent us two chippers, didn't they? The state. Yeah. And that was at the end. Uh, was it? No, we uh that was skid steers. Yeah.

The chippers that come over and set up in our yard. Oh, did they? I thought I thought that was through a star request. Okay. And we have, like Mr. Schroer saying, we have the 35,000 set aside this year to chip. I do not have 10,000 cubic yards in my yard yet. You know, it's I know we trimmed a lot of trees this year, but it takes a lot of trees to make that cubic yardage. And I still have the 10 the $35,000 set aside to chip that up in our yard. Well, we're not going to need it this summer, Billy. And Billy, that money is to cover bringing somebody in like we did.

Yes, sir. Okay. that we got a price from the home and they give us a quote. That's we we have to have at least 8 to 10,000 cubic yards before they'll come over. Billy, did this chipper come onto this CIP from you or did it come from council? I think we we both council and me kind of agree, but you know, looking at where we're at now that uh you know, we hadn't unless you have a storm because this this is just a small pull behind Chipper. Yeah, that's it's that's going to range close to $200,000. The the big chipper that Bandit makes now, the 36 inch mount feed, that's 700 $750,000. That's it.

How much? I know if you want to see one in action, there's one right now at 27. The reason that we chose to put it on there was because of CCQing us. Well, do y'all want to do y'all want to extend it another year then for this or two years for the chipper? Um, I'd extend it and then do some research on it. Do some research on if we can get into this some kind of agreement. Okay. I mean, what what what's the other interest? I've had other cities come to us. Yeah. You know, one I don't want to really do anything with, but uh Well, the the county last year, the gentleman's gone now. He retired, Mr. crowder, but he was he was all for entertaining

several entities to go in. That's how Lee came into the county. That's what we used to do. Yeah. I think there's a lot of discussion to have there with our partners at the county. They're talking about even doing a countywide dispatch of because I mean it makes sense. The uh Jack Brooks would be a perfect. So on the on this other equipment, Billy, what's your talk us through it? What's your the side the side? I have a 2010 2015 side mower.

I have those are in real good shape this year. We have they've been great. Those two smaller side mowers. I could push that off. The the two main things on that list right there is the the emulsions trailer and a roller. Yeah. You're going to have to have that to do the rest of your stuff. Yes. And you're gonna we're going to keep on renting a uh so the sweeper for the the street sweeper that's one that you drive but Mr. Schroeder got me get a price on one that goes on our skid steer and it's only8 $8,900.

So Rudy um on the street paving you know Seth had had mentioned that that's really you know kind of a non-negotiable. Is there some way that we can highlight these items or or bold them or do something to say, hey, these are the ones that that we are, you know, with with, you know, 100% confidence or whatever that, hey, these are non-negotiables that are going to stick. Absolutely. There you go. Yeah, that'll be fine. So, and if you'll do that for the the IT backup system as well up there and then let's keep going up. Keep going up. All right. I just wanted to see what we were

I mean, I'm going to be honest with you guys. I think that I don't know if it's 250,000, but we've got to throw something at this city hall. I mean, look around here. We got ceiling tile center warp. We got stains on the carpet. I mean, I mean, the the remodel is couldn't make it to the party. Yeah, the remodel's non-negotiable, I think. Yeah. Well, I think we got to do now. the the the dollar figure may be negotiated. I think it's going to give a whole We've got to make a step forward. I think it'll give a whole new look, too. I do, too. I mean, I think it'll if we're not going to build a new one, then we we need to take care of this. And and honestly, next with park improvements, I think that's a non-negotiable, guys. I really I really feel that that's

it's never going to get it's never going to stop now, sir. Nope. So, um, and then Billy's roller and motion trailer if you want to roll back up. And then motion trailer, too. I'd push that side mower. He said we could probably push the side mower here. Yeah. Just uh, and that's that's that that's good. Council, your input on the uh, if you go up to the parking, I I feel like the lighting should be non-negot I mean, that's a safety concern. Yeah. It is our most used park. It is, y'all. I mean, people, you know, if we don't get cameras, that's one thing, but I think lights is a safety concern.

So, our staff went on Monday and we uh you know, we we walked the trail part of our our get help initiative up here at the city and there was at least 25 people walking as well out there on that on that trail. That's right. You know, at dust. So, you clocked out while you did that, right? You know, we did after this. That's right. Well, you work at 410 now. So, you sure it was It was We didn't get there till 6:15. 7.

Okay. I want more. Just a It's just a big loader. And uh Yeah, we could we could squeeze it. It's the the you know. Yeah. I see this I see the need in a loader though. I've seen it leaving a lot of stuff. Well, it's a very very big asset to us in the yard and stuff and for big jobs and loading and unloading, but uh as long as we can keep it going, but uh it's it's like a a early 90s model.

Yeah, you got to have to to start feeling street prepared, we're going to have to have the the three things that God highlighted there. You've got to have a sweeper. Got to have a roller. And you got to have some tray. I mean, the next big thing on there, and you know, I'm not scared to say, I know what I want for this that road department. Uh, but it's way down the road, but you're going to have to have some type of recycler. We're going to have to have something that's going to, you know, we're going to need a bow mag sooner or later. Unless you could put that into your budget. Uh, and I'm sure that's what you're going to do with the roads for next year is, uh, you intend on renting it or having the county do the uh,

correct, sir? Recycling part. Yes, sir. Okay. For the cost of the the like you're talking about the BAG. Yeah. The county can do it. They come in they come in I'm going to tell you what, they come in a lot cheaper this year on the two roads they're doing for me this year. Uh, they lose money. They lose money. Yeah. Well, that mean your fee they last year they charged me $25,000 a road and now it's only 126 for each one of the roads. We'll take it. You know, that's good cuz that maybe means we can put some uh additional like calcium sulfate or whatever limestone our base in those certain areas. Okay, keep going. What else you got, Billy?

That's a mechanic truck. Our three quarter ton pickup. It's a get close to being wore out, but we can push that. How many miles it got on it? It's like 170 something thousand. So, Billy, that truck got rid of it. 75. Whoa. Whoa. But uh So, Billy, that truck is a Is it got a service bed on it or is it just No, it's got a flat bed on it. It pulls a low boy with the roll with a wall roller and everything right now. Okay. And uh I can push it for another year. And I'm not looking either. But I'm not looking for a new truck either. How's the maintenance on that? The maintenance is pretty good. It's just getting wore out. Okay.

Well, that's what Billy was saying. Push push the loader. Push the loader out to another year or two. Are you sure on the Well, that's our big one. It's still It's still usable. It's still doing a good job. Yeah. I mean, don't don't uh don't volunteer to push off anything, Billy, that that's going to hurt you. I mean, if you don't I mean, if you Yeah. I think we need to move that loader back over. It doesn't Yeah. Put it back on there. Put it back on there. And if we don't get it funded, we can do it next year. So, like I said, this is not funding. This is just This is just This is where do you Where would you if you had the money, where do you think it should it should go? I mean, not all the money in the world, but Yeah.

Correct. So, let's say on the excavator, that's a pretty sore subject right now. Yeah. What is the cost on the uh skid steers that we were replacing it with? Yeah. The the last track machine we just now bought, the Caterpillar last year was uh 168. Yeah. a lot better than a grade all because yeah cuz I personally I'd like to start phasing those in before we have another catastrophic failure of the grade all there's no initial cost so the repair is great on this the problem with that is is you're going to have to trailer that thing all over town for cover sets we do that now so are you doing that now

we're doing that now that's the only machine we got running right now I understand it's a convenience to drive to the job site. Yes. But it's not that big of a inconvenience. As long as we got I mean a lot less maintenance. A lot less headaches and I get a lot more talking about the track machine. Track machine. Yeah. I I think it's a more So then So then we really So then we really aren't going to plan on buying a new excavator in fiscal year 28. Maybe it's 170,000. We trade that out for the another track machine. Correct. Which is an excavator. Yeah. Right. It's just it's just not a

like a mini. Well, they're not carrier type escalator.

Is that the end of the capital improvement plan? No, we have uh storm sewers that in the past uh last year we had $100,000 for this uh coming fiscal year, but I spoke with Billy and I wanted to make sure that we allocated correctly reconstruction versus regular maintenance. And he told me about $30,000 of the $100,000 is regular maintenance, which would go on our M. This is going to be um the amount of money for reconstruction that's going to be a fixed asset. And that's why I wanted to separate it out. And so I might, if it's okay, I wanted to go ahead and continue the 70,000 uh through the rest of the years. And then the 30,000 can be the regular uh non- capital.

And guys, remember, we cut that this year because we knew we were getting the drainage projects uh from the uh EDC. So this is just going back and the county street. Correct. So you want to you want to go ahead and keep this one here? Yes. Okay. And that's basically uh that piping stability. Yes, sir. Well, the $70,000 is for new projects. The $30,000 is for maintenance. Gotcha. When we're digging a ditch and you dig up a driveway and reset it, some a lot of times them covers are not reinforced and they just fall apart on you. But that and that's what it's for for culverts and then Yes, sir.

So, quick question around the 400 on paving. Does that include any concrete? No, sir. And that's something that that that'll be up to y'all to look at. If y'all wanted to to split it and do half with concrete, half with asphalt, I am or I'm fairly adamant that we identify main thoroughares through the city, main streets, and we start working towards concrete on those. Even if it's a little bit every year, yeah, we need to start working towards that. So, well, y'all y'all y'all been around here a long time. We need more than 400. Let's talk about that now. Yeah, y'all kind of understand which ones are our main roads from Avenue J to Sixth Street to

honestly if we could put in more money. I mean, you know, to me 400's the minimum. If we could do more money, um it's just, you know, going to depend on the budget this year, but I do think that it's imperative um that we, you know, increase that budget that we can. That way we can stretch those dollars uh as far for our citizens as we can. And 400 is not going to go as far as you think it's going to go. I know. Everything on that paving is petroleum based. And do we have do we know what streets that that we're going after with that 400 or is that just a number? So you can't you can't make that determine till after October one where I can figure out the lean your feet which roads are in the worst shape

and then I figure out the lean your feet and then I bring it back to Mr. Seth. So portion of look at that

was doing that that pavement assessment that was in the strategic plan that we talked about looking at all of our streets and and assigning them you know basically a number of what what streets are the priority and that's where we'll attack first. But I think that um you know for I think we all know in this room one of the areas that um I think for a concrete street if we were going to do a concrete street which is separate from this but um would be sixth street from 646 north. Um I'd love to do all the way to 1764. That would be a lot of money but that is our busiest streets for a few reasons um over there and that road is um not in um the best of shape. So that that's an area that we're really going to have to look at. There's several areas across the city I I know, but um I'm just mentioning that one in particular.

Like I said, even if we did a couple hundred feet a year, we're going to get there, but we need to show some progress. 646 between 646 and P would be the part I would say is the worst on that road. Absolutely. And then just just as long as we talk about that going forward with this, but that I'm 100% with you on that that I would we've talked about that and to me that's the uh that's a main thorough there, you know, going to the schools or the library. It's a four-way intersection and that is a terrible terrible half mile road.

So do so do we have the appetite then to move that up to 500,000 from four to five? Well, I think it's something that we can certainly talk about. I mean, if we end up if we end up dropping the the police cars from 318 to 100, then that gives us another 200 right there that we could add, and then we're at six. Or if we we push the police cars off, all of them off for a year, then that gives us another 320,000. Now, we're looking at 720 instead of 300. So,

and I don't want to recommend doing that. I do think that just to have uh to keep our fleet um that way we don't ever have a year where we've got to buy so many vehicles. I would never recommend cutting uh that number down to zero, but we can definitely cut that number down. Um for sure that that number I mean I just see it as I think we did the five years I think is when we were running. Now we're not running. So to me they don't extend outs. I just might be. So then going forward with the street paving, we need to uh

start factoring in concrete in addition to our repairs. The dollar is what it is, but we've got to as a city move forward with that. Well, I think on concrete repairs though, that's going to be such an expensive part. You're probably going to have to get EDC help on that. I don't know how, Seth. I don't know how you would you could really do this if it's possible,

but I would like to see if there's some way that we could put a a percentage on each department of percentage of how close you are to being fully funded, fully equipped, all of that for each department. You know what I mean?

No, no. What I'm talking about is like we could look at it and we could say um okay the the police department is at they're at 80% of ideal. The street department's at 40% ideal. Well then we know hey look we may need to give this year we may need to give the road department a little bit more attention. I mean, we've got to kind of balance everything out where the same people year after year ain't having to push things further out of the capital improvement plan and the same people year after year are getting everything that they wanted on the capital improvement.

I'm not going to tell you that it can't be done, but it would be very difficult to do to do that. We don't have the the uh the the technology to be able to do that. Um I've had it at um other organizations that I've worked at, but that it's it's pretty expensive to get. We don't have it. Um and I think us trying to do it by hand um would be um very difficult. Um we would need to identify all the assets in the entire city right there. Yeah. Yeah. But s you can see it right there. Yeah. I mean we obviously lopsided

if we did it based on upon you know just this information you know right here. Um, I mean, you know, we could run an analysis based on these numbers, but I will say I don't think even with all of these items, I think that there's probably some more items that we could have to get where to where we need to be if that's really what we're we're trying to forecast out to see um year after year that that number is going to change as we continue to grow. Um uh I guess all I'm all I'm getting at what is the what I guess what's what are we trying I guess I guess what I'm getting at and and we have a very seasoned council here that's been a part of a lot of budgets but it seems like every year the same departments are the ones that are having to push things off

and the same departments are the ones that are automatically getting everything on it and I mean at some point in time we've got to you know I mean some years we might be heavy on street then the next year we got to be you know heavy on the library then the next year we got to be heavy on the PD. Like I know, you know, we all have turns, but it can't be the same department's never getting what's on their plan and the same department's always getting Well, and I'll say this for for public works and it's nothing personal towards any department. I mean, to me, public works is is is is one of the areas that I feel that we are that we have um lacked in years past. I you pushed off a lot

that we pushed off a lot and I just feel that we can no longer push these items off. Um, I mean, I understand the chipper. Um, but even if the side mower, if we had the funds available, then we need to we need to push that back over. And I mean, at this point, it looks like what we have highlighted, I mean, we're giving Billy what everything that he's asking for that's a need. Yeah, for sure. Other than the street pavement, you know, I mean, really, we probably need to double that. Think about how much they But that's the other thing. Well, whatever they can't do, we can contract. We can we can contract out. And then, you know, we've got some other options I think that we can, you know, um, do for singular projects.

How much, Rudy? How much did we spend on capital improvement in this budget cycle? What was that number? Uh, right here. This cycle we spent 457,000. 450,000. Okay. And what's the total? Uh, that's all we spent on capital expenditures. And we're talking about this next year spending 400,000 stolen out of M not including what was the bond issuance, right? Well, we don't Yeah, we can't count bond insurance because we don't have another bond issue. All right. And then so the capital improvement plan that we're looking at this year, that's what this is that you just selected 1.6. So we're looking at 1.6.

I mean, excuse me. I know this is a big investment, but I think it's an investment that's um you know, really needed here in the city. Um you know, we've had some deferred maintenance. Um and let's let's just start addressing what we can uh if we you know, what what we can get to. So, that's something I wanted to talk about and I don't know if this is the place to talk about it. Um, if not, we can put it on a teacher agenda agenda. Yeah.

I want to know I want to, you know, do we do like a physical plant inspection every year of everything. I'm talking buildings, I'm talking equipment, I'm talking playground equipment, right? I'm talking everything. I know every one of us up here had to do it before a physical inspection. Uh, you know, what is what is this piece of equipment? This building right here, what shape is it in? This playground equip, what shape is it in? What are we looking at for the you know, and because that playground equipment's got me, you know,

so that's a that's a good question. And we started that conversation at the beginning of the year um with Billy and I and I mentioned it to to Seth as well. It's a it's a an asset u analysis for the entire city, right? And that's something that's really important for finance as well. The problem is there just isn't enough people in the city to do it because it would literally take months to go through every single uh asset from a curb to a street line. I'm not talking about the curbs. I'm not talking about the whole physical like a physical plant tangible property.

You know what we have in this ground as far as this building right here. Any piece of property the city owns. What's that piece of property? What what is the value of that piece of property? What does it look like? What condition is it in? Uh to answer this building on there, like if we could go to Baron Tully, you know, and we start looking around uh like the the old building out there, what condition that in that's a zero condition. Get, you know, uh stuff like that. I mean, where you're not ever going to put any more money into that? We have we at least to my knowledge, we've never done that. um here at the city.

It's something that I see it with, but that that you know, just several things. Uh but we need to start getting it. I'm going to talk about the police station. Uh like the frontage on the police station, the facade. Do we have any kind of thing in the budget where we go out there and play it put do a funide or something to clean that mold off and get it clean every year? Wash it or what? Yeah. I mean, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. I'm going to keep our I want the aesthetics of this city and and the stuff that we own, you know, I want it to keep its value. Absolutely. I mean, that's how you do it.

Yeah. No, I think that's good discussion. You know, either either, you know, just privately between you and Seth or, you know, we can certainly put it on an agenda item as well, you know, what that looks like. And, you know, maybe start with something very basic, you know, just to build on, but as far as not having enough people, public's off on Fridays, not today. Hey, sorry. I can drive and point. Yeah, this was all five days a week. Whoa. Whoa. So, what is the What is the busy? What's the amount of all of the highlighted items right now? Just the highlighted the absolutes

and I get I guess the storm sewers non-negotiable. That's Thank you. Is this good? That is We're not going the way you want to see it. 800,000 a million 58 million 58. But but guys, you know, I think that there's maybe some other thing. I mean, you got to put the radios in there, keeping that. And I mean, as well, the handheld radios, I would add that number in there um as well. Um is that going to change this year? Don't we have upcoming talks on that? on the radios and dispatch and stuff like that. I don't I don't know that we liked the numbers.

Yeah, the it was it was too high. We're going to have to keep where where it's at right now. I mean, it was just astronomical to make that change. So, um so then we're looking at 1.1. Yeah. And last year we were at 450.

And that's if you don't do a vehicle, I I recommend it, you know, let doing at least one vehicle as well, guys. And and if I may, last year we entertained, and I don't know what council's appetite will be for it for this year, but last year we entertained the MVCPA grant, which is an 8020 match grant, and we had two vehicles built into that grant that could be fully marked police cars u as well as some other equipment. Our total grant was about 100,000. And so our match would have been 20,000 for that to get the equipment inside that. We ended up not being given the grant by the office of the governor, but it is my intent to try and apply for it again this year and put vehicles into that if if that's council's appetite.

I think council would would love to only pay 20%. It's a good turn. But 20% takes you back your your 70. And then on like as far as like the um you know the the the K at the library like the kitchen and the bathroom just maybe with that 35,000 we could probably do a lot with with both of that to to make that happen. I don't want to get hollered at. Do we have to have the office upgrade? Not right now. And I'm not I'm not insinuating that we're not going to find any of these other ones. I just wanted to try to to have a hard number in your pull pull the ones that that we know are are the top

are non-negotiable. That mean the other ones aren't going to get fun. Seth, we could on the remodel kitchen. We could just if I can get the meeting room kitchen right now 18 or 20 right now. We don't have a number. I mean, we don't know what our what our uh inventory is going to be yet. I mean, uh, the other night Cheryl said probably April maybe they would have preliminary, um, not certified roles, but at least they're preliminary, you know, tax inventory, you know, and then we can kind of But, um, I mean, uh, Rudy, as much data as you as you keep year-over-year, I mean, on average, what is the percent change of our tax inventory? What do we usually grow? About 4.5% just in added value.

4.5% in added value. Right. And that's uh that's what I put here. 4.5. So if we have that four 4.5% in added value, assuming that we keep the same tax rate that we have this year, then what does that total give us? The difference between these two 150,000 almost. It's about 150 150,000 more. Yes. Yes. Just an added value. Oh, an added value. So got you. No, but I mean what would that bring our total property tax revenue to that right there? Keeping the same tax rate that we have right now.

Well, just just leaving the tax rate alone. Just saying nothing changes. That's how much added value we have that that comes in every year without any tax increases. That's it. Go. How far are we off.3? Okay.

All right. Well, there is one bright spot to all this. Uh, do tell Councilman Center Point should be opening up in October. Correct. That's our new year. That's going to start us into this and that ought to help our sales tax. Absolutely. I mean, that ought to be a boom for sales tax. That's 100 new employees housed in Santa Fe with all the people that are coming here for meetings and stuff. Most contractors can't do anything but help us. So, that'll help our property tax in fiscal year. And the property tax is going to be Yeah.

Council, welcome. Um, going back to the capital improvement plan, Rudy, because I know that's um kind of the topic for today, council, is there any projects or things that you would like to see maybe that aren't on the capital improvement plan that you would like for us to consider? I mean, I I do agree with the sentiment that council member Shrader had about, you know, I don't know, we've been putting off a a parking lot for the library for five years now. um you know, maybe it's time to either decide to start doing something there or just take it off. But I mean, we just keep pushing it down the road. So, is there any we keep pushing a a total project, right? Is there any reason we couldn't do an expansion

this year this year and then next year follow it and eventually, you know, three years maybe we have the full parking lot. But Billy, is is there a way that we could come in off of S a second drive off of S north of the drive that's on S now? Bring it into Is there anything under that ground right there that would prohibit that in the trees right? No, sir. There's nothing because we can do that parking lot right behind

everything else right there. Well, you know, it it's something like Brandon said. It's you're going to have to build a parking lot there. I mean, there is no ifs, ands, or buts, unless we're building a new library anytime soon. Uh, you're going to have to have a park. You're going to get back. I hope everybody in the city knows how it back. That would be a good idea. You're going to have to start with an idea. That's the only spot that's the only way,

you know, how many parking space could you get there? How much would it cost for base material just to start that? You know, if we could get some kind of, you know, what's this going to cost us on base material and then maybe pavement or stuff down till next year or something, but at least start get us an entrance there. I don't want to overwhelm the library with dust. That would be my only concern. Well, you wouldn't back there. And uh I think the street department, the public works department could put the driveway in. It could remove the trees and it and it could build it could build the base. So, let's talk a couple. We'll have some more conversation around trees.

Yeah. I mean, well, that you just don't have any room there. That's I understand what y'all are talking about. The trash trees. Let's rephrase that. trash trees, the old trees, the old trees that we left alone. And Rusty's right and and I know we're running down a rabbit hole a little bit, but an entrance off S for that expansion would be ideal. We have 140 140 footer that way, but the in a second one the north. I think we need to relocate the one in the front and get it away from the park and then because there's already been conversation around the children in the access to the parking lot if we move that over towards the middle or eliminate it and just come off S either way. But yep, there's a there's a project to be discussed.

That's cool. All right, gentlemen. But to answer your question, it's doable. Okay. So, that's the only place I see out there to do it. Is there anything else? Do you want to put some money in there for discussion? I just $200,000. That $200,000 might as well be on there. We're going to look at it for 29 because our problem is now. Yeah. And it's not going to get any with this homechool program. I'll tell it. Put 50 in there, Rudy, and we'll we'll come back and talk about it. Why don't we do 50 this year and do 50, 28, 29, and 30? And then that way we've kind of got a, you know,

a planet and get a base down, you know, and have some parking. Rudy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Somebody better put a fan on Becky. That was a parking garage and pull her down. There was a parking garage there. Yeah. All right. Council, um, is there any other discussion about capital projects? We can sit here and take turns telling stories till noon if y'all want to.

The uh, I'll bring up a question and maybe it's been corrected. I haven't followed up on it in a bit. We talked about some structural issues at the PD on that back wall. Was that ever corrected? There were some cracks that were showing. No, I believe I had passed that on to George. Uh I just I don't know if we had ever heard anything on it. We need at a minimum we need to look at it to see if it's follow her when she gets back if it's structurally sound and and what repairs look like for that because we don't want that building to get away from us. Chrome down. Might have to add that to the capital, right? Right. That's back where the salad port is. Are you talking about

was No. Yes. No. Yes. Whether Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. They wall crack already. Personnel services. I hate um Rudy, will you uh send this out to us? Absolutely. Uh this is going to start. It's going to be V1 and version one. Um let me see if I can scroll up to. So this is what the dash will look like. It'll say under construction. So um none of this none of this is actually working yet. Okay. Well then don't worry about don't worry about sending it to us then.

But you will see these items in there. the ones we just talked about. Okay. On our uh and the flock cameras are still on discussion, but we need two to be able to get into the system. Yeah. Sorry. Wasn't there conversation at least need three? We have had some interest from a private business owner who has talked about funding some and we had had some issues getting numbers, but within the past couple weeks, we've gotten hard numbers at 3,500 a piece installed. So, we can have conversation with that individual now and see. Okay.

Yes, sir. We'll be on the hook for the 3,000. I know a subdivision that has one for Is that what that was? 30,000. per camera. Annually, the whole thing about it is it gets you on the network. Yeah. I mean, it certainly is a best practice.

Yeah. I mean, it's it helps everybody. One thing that I'd like to do in the future, just to let you guys know, um I'd like to revise some of these documents, especially future projections to start um realistically looking at inflation over time because this 100,000 is not going to be the same as this 100,000. And I'd like to be able to project that out and have it work in the budget as far as uh you know, how it hits the fund balance. Is that fine? I think it makes sense. Very good. I mean, that's the same way with the

And then before we adjourn, Rudy, can you go back to the the main sheet that you started with the calendar, and let's just kind of do a do a a brief overview of what the ne our next meetings look like and what we're going to be discussing. So, the next one that we have is originally scheduled for April 9th, but it looks like that's probably going to be the 13th. Um, is that correct? which is um the Thursday of April, which is the the third Thursday of the month. 16th 16th of So we're going to do that as a six o'clock special meeting before the regular council meeting. Why don't we meet Why don't we need to change that? Um Rudy, we could also do it.

Why don't we have it on the day we have it scheduled? We have it scheduled on the 9th. We can have it that day. It's a special one on Thursday and it could be at um 6 or 7 since there won't be a council meeting that day. Can y'all get here and you can do six? Yeah. Can you Thursdays you can do six o'clock? Y can. Okay. That way if it runs longer we don't interfere with the council meeting and correct. There won't be a council meeting. There won't be a That was the reason we did it then. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. I'll check my calendar. You check your calendar. Perfect. So, we'll have that next on the schedule. April 9th. When is that? April 9th. Yes.

Where did it go? Oh, there it is. And we'll send y'all a calendar. So, it says capital improvement plan workshop. I mean, that's what we did today. What more do we need to discuss? That was future capital projects. So, this one is a continuation of that. Uh we could go which we we actually did a lot more than I expected. So this one um we can start talking about different departments uh and especially yeah I think admin and that's about it council I mean yeah I mean I don't know what else we need to talk about capital improvements till we figure out what our money's going to be yeah so yeah we can start we can start u department

we already have a couple of departments that are working I think Billy's working PD court and library have already been really engaged and working on their budgets. So, and then by workshop three, uh we should have a a preliminary v uh tax roll inventory maybe that we can start looking at. Will, uh Rudy or um Seth or whoever, will y'all send out calendar invites for these meetings? Absolutely. All right, council. Anything else? None. Motion and second. Thank you. 928. Thank you staff.

Thanks. Give you back some more time staff. Go do something with a volunteer day on the shelters. Is that what retired? I think they go in I think council.