Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Test test testing Best. Michael, shall we proceed?

Um, we should be good to go. Thank you. Hello. Okay, so we're in the middle of the roll call. Should we continue, please? Oh, we're in the agenda, right? I'm like,

oh, yeah. And you were uh Dan, you had a change to the agenda. Um, Madam Chair, members of the commission, um, we have a change to case 2026 111784 315 Senna Street Certificate of Compliance. The property did sell and that means that the owner listed on the agenda is different. So instead of Freriedman, Wil Henry and Winston LLC, no I'm sorry. Instead of the Olsen Revocable Trust, it is now 3:15 Senna. That's the only change to the agenda.

Okay. Thank you. We'll note that. And [clears throat] also, we will not be having a a um presentation from staff, from water. Um but we will it's going to be postponed to a different date. Thank you. Um [clears throat] any other changes to the agenda by commissioners? If not, I'll entertain a motion. I make a motion to uh accept the minutes as so amended. Sorry. Accept the agenda as so amended. Second. Thank you. Roll call, please.

Vice Vice Chair Smith, yes. Commissioner McGee, yes. Commissioner Morando, yes. Commissioner Reland, yes. Commissioner Capen, yes. Commissioner Mcrenolds, yes. Commissioner Barber, yes. Madam Chair, the motion is passed.

Thank you. Um, there's no consent agenda, so we'll move on to the approval of the minutes. The first minutes are the December 18th, 2025 minutes. We addressed those at the last meeting, but I had indicated I hadn't voted, but it turned out I did vote because I was homesick, so I didn't run the meeting. So, um, the minutes have now reflect that I did vote and that so the amendments withdrawn. So, we need to vote on those. Any other changes to those minutes? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Second roll call, please. Vice Vice Chair Smith. Commissioner McGee. Yes. Commissioner Morando,

yes. Commissioner Reeland, yes. Commissioner Capen, Commissioner Mcrenolds, yes. And Commissioner Barber, yes. Madam Chair, the motion's passed. Thank you. Um, and next we'll um address the February 5th, 2026 minutes. Are there any changes to those minutes? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve February 5th, 2026 minutes. Second. Roll call, please. Vice Vice Chair Smith, yes. Commissioner McGee, yes. Commissioner Morando, yes. Commissioner Reeland, yes. Commissioner Capen, yes.

Commissioner Mcrenolds, yes. and Commissioner Barber. Yes, Madam Chair, the motion is passed. Thank you. [clears throat] And the uh minutes uh case number 2025-11386 have been postponed to April 2nd. So we'll now address case number 2025-11380 which is 1:01 1103 Surus Road Development Plan. Are there any changes to those findings of facts and conclusions of law? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Second. Second. Roll call, please.

Vice Chair Smith. Commissioner McGee. Yes. Commissioner Morando. Yes. Commissioner Reeland. Yes. Commissioner Commissioner Capen. Yes. Commissioner Mcrenolds. Yes. and Commissioner Barber. Yes, Madam Chair. The motion is passed. Thank you. Um [clears throat] there's no old business, so we'll move to new business. And the first matter is case number 2025, um 11270, uh 875 Camino Don Emlio Family Transfer Subdivision.

Hello. Okay, that was really stressful. Yay. Okay. Good evening, Chair Claw and Commissioners. Sorry about that delay. Um, my name is Alexa Hemple and I'm here to present staff's findings on case number 2025 111270, a family transfer subdivision at 875 Camino Donamelio. Uh the agent for this application is NM Land Solutions and the applicant is Nancy Hoffman. The applicant is requesting approval of a family transfer transfer subdivision to split an existing 4.59 acre lot into three lots gifting the two new lots to her children. Uh, so as I just mentioned, the subdivision will create two new lots which requires the case to be heard by the planning commission in accordance with section 14-3.7F4 of the previous land development code. This application applied under the the previous code. Um, it is of note though that the future residential development on the properties will need to be in conformance with the newly adopted code as amended. This property is zoned R1 and is located within annexation phase three of the city. The annexation phase 3 area has not been officially annexed yet, but is subject to the city land development uh jurisdictions due to the spaso ordinance which is included in attachment D of your packet. So, for some regional context, here's the the property is approximated with a red star. Um, and the area shaded in purple that's also outlined in yellow is the annexation phase 3 area that the city has the land development

jurisdiction over. You can also see in this image the property's proximity to Alama, Siler, and other roads. So this property is zoned R1 and will remain R1 through this subdivision. The future land use designation for this property is one dwelling unit per acre as well. After the subdivision, the residential development on the new lots will be subject to the new zoning standards for height, lot coverage, setbacks, etc. described in the new version of chapter 14. Um, and this property is within the suburban archaeological review district, but no further review is required unless they have a utility plan that exceeds 550 linear feet. The property is currently served by well and septic and will remain on a shared well and individual septic uh system with the subdivision through the family transfer subdivision process. A lot served by well and septic may be a minimum of 1.25 25 acres. So, the subdivision therefore propo proposes to create an approximately two acre lot for the current owner to retain shown in red and two 1.25 acre lots for her children shown in green and blue. The property is currently on and will remain on the well and septic systems and this is due to the public infrastructure for um water and sewer being over 300 feet away. The nearest water distribution line is approximately 2,000 ft away and the nearest wastewater collection pipe is approximately 1,700 ft away. The two new lots will be accessed via an extension of the existing driveway off the private Camino Donamelio Road. No new driveways will be created on Camino Donio. The proposed driveway extension will be a 20 foot wide gravel drive with a

hammerhead to facilitate emergency access and is shown in yellow. The existing driveway is shown in green. Uh the subdivision plat will grant an easement for the two new lots to utilize the driveway as well. And the image on the slide there is the driveway as it exists today. So moving on to Commamino Donameio as a street itself. As built, it does not conform to the city street standards listed in section 14-9.2. However, the current design was approved by the extr territorial zoning commission and the Santa Fe County Board of Commissioners as a culde-sac in 1999 and 2000 as part of the Echo Seco subdivision. This classification allowed the road to serve up to 30 dwelling units with the creation of two additional lots uh here to become dwelling units in the future. Commamino Donamelio will remain under the 30 dwelling units that were permitted. And this subdivision therefore does not increase the extent of the nonconformity on the street requiring the city to recognize the county's approval under the spaso ordinance section 7D which states that permits and approval granted by the extr territorial zoning authority and the extr territorial zoning commission prior to enactment of this ordinance for which rights have vested whether or not the permit or approvals conformed to the city land development code shall be recognized by the city and the county. Next, moving on to terrain management and landscaping. There are man-made and natural 30% or greater slopes that will be disturbed with the driveway extension. Um, but those are in in conformance with what is allowed in the code. There's also a dryer royo that will be routed into a covert under the driveway. The driveway will be supported via retaining walls and uh cut and fill slopes and the applicant will provide landscaping and irrigation plans at the time of building permits.

Next, here are some photos of the property just to get acquainted. The photo on the left was standing on the western side of the property south of the existing home. This is facing east along the corridor where the driveway is proposed. The middle image is facing the proposed lot three and the right image is facing the proposed lot two of the applicant has satisfied the requirements for a pre-application meeting early neighborhood notification meeting and notice for public hearing. Approximately six members of the public attended their ENN highlighting the following key points. They had concern over contributions to the maintenance of the private road and concern over potential future flooding if the aosyals on the property become disturbed. Staff found that the applicant had satisfied the subdivision approval criteria while also recognizing the additional requirement for family transfers that do not allow for the sale or lease of the land for three years after the date the transfer is legally made. So with that, staff is recommending that the planning commission approve case number 202511270 875 Commamino Donio family transfer subdivision subject to the conditions of approval and technical corrections outlined in attachment A of staff's report and one motion will be required either to approve or deny you. Thank you. Any um questions from commissioners in before we um move to the applicant. Okay, we'll go ahead and move to the applicant.

Please raise your right hand. State your name and address for the record. Toriia Dalton. Do you solemnly declare and affirm that the testimony you have in reference to this item shall be the truth and nothing but the truth and do so under the penalties of perjury? Please proceed.

Um thank you and good evening u madame chair and members of the commission. I do have you know some photos but [laughter] I don't want to disturb or disrupt what we have going. So let me just if you have questions then maybe we can um scroll through them. Um, so anyways, uh, I'm here on, uh, from NM Land Solutions on behalf of, uh, Nancy Hoffman. And Miss Hoffman has owned the property since 2019. She's at the point in her life where she's ready to have her children live next to her. And they're also eager to come um, back home and live next to their mom. Um, the um, I was going to say, so I lost train track. Um also um just to respond to the EN meeting we had um the applicant is in agreement to contribute to maintenance of the road um and they do have contact have exchanged contact information to continue on that um that uh journey through construction. Um other than that I have discussed the conditions of approval with my clients um and we're in agreement and I stand for questions. Thank you. Any questions?

Okay. Um, [clears throat] Commissioner Wland. Hi. Thank you. Um, one question I had is based upon the guidelines for the road system capping this at 30 potential uh dwellings in separating the lots. Is that going to inhibit any other future owners that already own land in the area from developing? Madame Chair, Commissioner Wland, I'm sorry. Um, it should not. Staff did go out there and count the lots and I'll verify that we wouldn't disrupt future building. Thank you. Any other questions? Commissioner, sorry. [clears throat]

Um, I'm glad to hear that they are speaking amongst themselves. Was that agreement made by all three of the two daughters and the mother now? Will they all three be contributing as as property owners?

Yes. So, planning comm madam planning commissioner commissioner um capen they um so how it is now is Jordan Hoffman who is the son who's going to build the first home he's going to do all the contributions um his mom's a little older so he's willing to start making the payments that they've requested and uh along when he starts construction of the road he'll go ahead and make that big lump sum that they want and then when we come in with the second home they'll make that their uh payment and they'll continue to make yearly or you know however the board desires um to contribute to those um funds.

What when you say a lump sum is that some agreement about the construction when they're doing that and yes they come up with that amount. um I believe between correspondence between the two um between the kind of the HOA in a way which we're not going to be part which the owners are not going to be part of but will contribute. Uh so kind of been between correspondence between them. Um, so what it seemed like the agreement was is that um have it here, but that's an email um and I'm happy to share it and provide it to staff, but I'll go ahead and um just read from Jordan. Um he says, "I'm happy to pay the first,000 contribution when construction begins." Um, understanding that the amount would apply to the f to the first of the two houses to be built later, the second amount contribution is intended to come when the second home breaks ground and traffic increases. And then he also says, I'm happy to start covering the fee um for the contribution for my mother's property as as soon as the lot split is completed. Thank you,

Commissioner Barber. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, the EN there were two items that were brought up. You've already addressed the first one. The second one was regarding the potential flooding if the Aoyos are disrupted. Has that been addressed?

Um, yes. Well, um, so the the Aoyos won't be disrupted. Um, there will be culverts placed in any, um, dry aoyos. So, um, you know, we do have an approved, not kind of a preliminary preliminary approved grading and drainage plan that's been reviewed by the city engineer to ensure that the proposed construction thus far um meets and complies uh with the code and supports, you know, the um supports the proper uh the design of uh installing retaining walls. um to to um sorry about that um to prohibit you know additional drainage from flowing or flooding and as the condition there is a condition that um does say that additional retention ponds may be required during construction. So if indeed you know it does turn out that there's some kind of flooding we will have to come back in you know amend plans and construct some retention ponds.

Any other questions chair? Yes sir Morando. Um just one for the applicant. Um, so my understanding would be the retaining walls and the covert are shown to be needed for this, but essentially they're going to be submitting engineered drawings for the permit and that and sorry that would confirm essentially what you're talking about. It's not as if you're going to build it and find out what happens. I'm just kind of correcting it because it was starting to us down that way.

M madame chair, um, members of the commission, you're you're absolutely correct. Thank you for that clarification. Any other questions? Not entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Wait a second. Wait. Public comment. Thank you. I always leave that out. Is there anyone here from the public that would like to comment on this um application? If so, please come forward. Is there anyone on Zoom that wants to comment on this? Madam Chair, the Zoom uh room is empty.

Okay. So, we'll close the public comment portion of this um case and then we'll move towards a motion. Madam chair, I'll move to approve case 2025 11270875 Camino Don Alio family transfer subdivision uh subject to the conditions of approval and technical corrections outlined in attachment A of staff's report. Roll call, please. Vice Vice Chair Smith, Commissioner McGee, yes. Commissioner Morando, yes. Commissioner Reland, yes.

Commissioner Capen, yes. Commissioner Mcrenolds, yes. And Commissioner Barber, yes. Madam Chair, the motion is passed. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening.

Okay. Now, we'll move to case number 2026-117 84. Um 1350 Senna Street, Certificate of Compliance. Good evening again. Should I proceed with Vice Chair Smith stepping out or?

Um, yeah, you can go ahead.

Okay. I'm here again tonight to present staff's findings on case number 202611784, a certificate of compliance at 315 Senna Street. Again, my name is Alexa Hemple. I'm a senior planner for the land use department and the case planner for this project. The agent is Charlie Henry and the applicant was the Christopher Alden Olsen Revocable Trust. However, the ownership has recently changed to 315 Senna Street LLC and the new owners have requests to maintain this application. Documentation of the ownership change and an amended certificate of compliance letter can be found in the newly added attachment D to the staff report. The applicant is requesting approval of a certificate of compliance per SFCC14-2.1E 6 uh B. Sorry, it was Roman Roman numerals uh of the new code for a lot that is non-compliant with the city subdivision review requirements. So, first as a quick overview, this lot was created in 1929. In 1981 and in 1983, while under common ownership, the lot lines between 315 Senna Street and 727 Gomez Road were adjusted without city approvals. The current owner now wishes to correct that by seeking a certificate of compliance to certify the lot as adjusted as a legal lot of record. The image on the right approximates the lot as adjusted. The property has one home and one accessory dwelling unit. Here's a zoomed out image of where the property is for reference. It is within the Dongaspar area historic district just outside of downtown. So with that quick overview, I'll now run through um more of a history of the property and explain why a certificate of compliance is needed. So to begin,

the lot was created in 1929 as lot 5 on the Frank Andrews subdivision. The subdivision was established prior to the adoption of the city code and it was recorded with the Santa Fe County Clerk, therefore establishing all lots depicted as legal lots of rec record. The lot was bought and sold as depicted until 1957 when the Beard family purchased lots four, five, and 10 of the subdivision. There's four with the blue star, five with the other blue star, and 10 with the third blue star. So, while under common ownership, the beards altered the lot lines between lots five and 10 in 1981 and in 1983. These dates are after the adoption of the land development code, so city approval should have been sought. Since they did not get city approval on the plots, both lots five and 10 are no longer considered legal lots of record. The image on the left shows the lot line adjustment done in 1981, which essentially cuts a square out of the northeast corner of lot 5 and gives it to lot 10. Then in 1983, they added back an approximately 5 by 20 foot area to lot 5 adjacent to the garage, which is now ADU, and leased it to lot 10. The lease was created to last 99 years with the option to renew. So to help visually understand this, here's some animations again. So there's the green line on the left image shows the original lot line. Then in 1981 they did this. And then in 1983, you can see the on the right now we're on the right image. They moved that lot line over and created that fuzzy area in the middle which is the lease area.

So, a certificate of compliance uh for this case must be approved by the planning commission uh per SFCC section 14-2.1 EI6B, which states that the planning commission may approve a certificate of compliance for a lot or contiguous lots that have been created in violation of the procedural requirements of the section if it determines that the lots comply with all other applicable standards of chapter 14 or it imposes is conditions of approval necessary to ensure such compliance. Upon meeting any conditions of approval and recordation of the certificate of the complian of compliance, the lots shall be legal lots of record. Since this clause invokes compliance with chapter 14, I'll now dive into the zoning criteria for this lot. So, the property is zoned R21, which means residential 21 dwelling units per acre. The uh in R21 districts, the minimum lot size is 3,000 square foot and this lot exceeds that at just over 4,000 square foot. The maximum height allowed is 26 ft and this home currently is roughly 13 ft. The lot coverage can go up to 55% when private open space is provided, which this lot meets. And finally, the street setback of 7 ft has been met, as well as some of the rear and side setbacks. There are however three instances in which the minimum setbacks have not been met. However, the structures that encroach into the setbacks were constructed in 1947 which is prior to the establishment of setback regulations. So they are therefore considered legal non-conforming. A legal non-conforming structure is a structure that was lawfully constructed but fails to conform to the standards of chapter 14 for structures such as restrictions on required yards. as a

consequence of adoption of of or amendments to chapter 14. Structures that fall into this category may be maintained but shall not be enlarged or altered in a way that increase the degree or extent of its nonconformity. In this case, some of the setbacks shown in red in the image on the slide are uh legal non-conforming and will not be altered by this certificate of compliance. The lot lines that are being adjusted are shown as green solid lines in the image and will maintain the required 15t rear setback. The 5-ft side setback from the uh current ADU will be maintained through the lease area that is owned by lot 5 315 Senna Street. As previously mentioned, I'd also like to note that the lease area has a binding um agreement with provisions that restrict development by either property unless in conformance with chapter 14 standards as amended. This agreement can be found in attachment B of the staff report. The applicant was not required to host an early neighborhood notification meeting and there are no approval criteria for certificates of compliance. So with that, staff recommends that the planning commission approve case number 202611784 315 Senna Street to com create a legal law of record. One motion will be required either to approve or deny case number 20261784 315 Sen Street certificate of compliance. Thank you.

Thank you. Any [clears throat] questions before we move to the applicant? Okay, now we'll move to the applicant. Please state your name and address for the record. Henry, 15 Washington Avenue, sweet Santa Fe, New Mexico. Do you solemnly declare and affirm that the testimony you have in reference to this item shall be the truth, nothing but the truth and do so in the penalties of perjury? Do please proceed.

Uh, commissioners, uh, staff did a great presentation. If there's any questions, happy to answer those on your phone. Thank you. Any questions? Okay, then if not, do we have a motion? Motion to approve case number 2026-11784 315 Senate Street Certificate of Compliance. Second. All right. Vice Chair Smith. Commissioner McGee. Yes. Commissioner Morando. Yes. Commissioner Reeland. Yes.

Commissioner Capen. Yes. Commissioner Mcrenolds. Yes. and Commissioner Barber. Yes, Madam Chair, the motion's passed. Q. Okay, next we'll move to staff communications. Are there any communications from staff? We just have one and I do have a plat or actually it's a probably a plat and a development plan for signature for um you and the secretary. And you said you had one thing That was it. That was it. Oh, okay. Any um any matters from the commission?

Uh yes, we can announce the committees. So, um we are forming um two committees to one to address the general plan and the other to address um the land development code and I um have talked with each of the commissioners and who and ask them what they would like to be on. So on the long range planning um or the general plan it will consist of um Commissioner McGee um Commissioner Smith uh Commissioner Capen and Commissioner Barber and then the land development code phase two will consist of myself um Janet Clow uh Commissioner Morando Commissioner um Wheeland and um Commissioner Mc Reynolds.

[clears throat] And I think everyone's received a memo uh that sort of outlines uh what we talked about at our meeting and sort of the schedule for for the events.

Yes, Heather, thank you to everybody for volunteering for this. Um it's really important work. I just like to clarify in the general plan update, we are looking in the springtime, well probably late spring, early summer at an adoption of the general plan document itself. And then just to understand the time commitment, we are also going to be creating an implementation plan. And that's where the rubber hits the road. That's where we're going to decide where the city should be making investments and what are the things that we need to do. for instance, update the parks plan or update um you know other uh plans or priorities associated with capital improvements, what have you. So just wanted to let you know that it will not just be the general plan but and also um the implementation plan and we'll be doing that through the fall

and the general plan is being written now. Is that correct? Yes, that's correct. Sure. Commissioner McGee. Um, when should we find out about the meetings that we should be attending? Like are there any occurring right now that should be on our calendars?

Uh, chair plow, member McGee or Commissioner McGee, sorry board. Um so the right now we are meeting with the different departments um and talking about we talked about at the technical working group the draft scenarios and we're getting feedback. So we've learned quite a few things and we're also working with county staff to get their feedback. So these have been very valuable meetings. Um, so that would help to inform what we will bring back to the technical working group and eventually the public as well. We'll have some public engagement in the summer regarding the the scenario frameworks and the priorities and then um in the fall we'll probably everything's moving a little bit um just because of the change administration the contract the the everything. So, but we will um definitely be giving a timeline um soon, but we are currently engaging with departments. We'll also be making the presentation that we made to the technical working group, sort of a bit of an updated presentation to the board of county commissioners and we're working with the county on that uh to get their feedback as well because the general plan isn't just about a a artificial boundary. That's a city boundary, but also considering long term how we're going to collaborate.

Commissioner Smith, I'm I need to just be clarified on a couple of points. The long range planning committee um or whatever we're calling it, we will be involved in cons, I'm assuming, in consultation before decisions are made. We'll be part of the deliberative process. Yes, that is correct. And so knowing when there's going to be a meeting or if it's going to be every two weeks and then it can be cancelled, I think would be enormously helpful.

Yes, we're still trying to figure out the schedule, you know, refine it. And so there there was a proposal for sort of alternating weeks depending upon the committee. We will definitely be getting back to you on that so that we can figure out how we're going to staff it and then also the timing of the projects. We should be launching on phase two of the land development code here the beginning of April and we'll be starting with an assessment report that um the consultant will be preparing and then this commission will need to identify what are our first priorities of we do have some burning type of things that we need to do uh for instance you know correct scriveners errors uh as well as there's a couple of high priority issues like massage parlor legislation that um we need to also discuss. So that have just sort of come up as we're proceeding along and the street design guide and manual that's being proposed by public works which is intended to in the metropolitan planning organization which is intended to provide um some additional flexibility in street design and um because in Santa Fe we have a very unique street network and we need to acknowledge that when it comes to our design standards not does not always need to be an arterial material going through a neighborhood, which you know, that's what we're trying to accomplish with that. Also accounting for initiatives like adding bike lanes and multi-use paths and sidewalks and the like.

Yes, Commissioner McGee. All right. I just wanted to go back to um the general plan and the the reachouts that you all are conducting coming up. Um as you engage other stakeholders, are those meetings that uh the planning commission committee uh facilitating like the general plan updates will be invited to or be able to attend or would you prefer that we stay within a structured uh I don't know planning commission approval? Do you know what I'm saying? Like are we allowed to attend those?

Yes, absolutely. as a community member, you're you're more than welcome to attend. If there's more than three of you, though, I just sort of um I just or four. I'm not talked to each other. That's it. So, but as a member of the community, you're welcome to come to any city public meeting. It's just being careful about um you know, there potentially being a quorum and a discussion. Doesn't make a

Yeah, I'm thinking the four that are part of the the committee I think uh Heather's just saying if other people wanted to attend we are community members and so we could do so we just couldn't say I came I would just not talk to any right I understand that correct say how's your day going but discuss the pertinent cases correct the quorum is five is it not

yeah but just to um I [clears throat] think to keep it so that it's not complicated. It's we don't always have to chat with each other. Um it just keeps it clean. Just to follow up on that, as the planning commission subcommittee, can we be a part of that those meetings not just as members of the public? I think the question was is that the committee wants to be get oriented and understand the stakeholders and understand the issues and be a part of what's going on. So is there a a place for us to join those meetings with these stakeholders as you guys are collecting their feedback?

Um Commissioner C. Yes, absolutely. And you know that is not a forum in terms of the subcommittee. So, um, and and what we can do is provide you with the schedule and let you know when we're going to be having community meetings or what have you so that you all can know um and choose if you want to and the other committee won't attend. Um so [clears throat] one other point too uh there was discussion about would there be a chair of um each of these different committees and um I decided that I didn't think we needed one. I think it needs to really be directed by staff. So um that so staff will be leading um because they have the expertise, the knowledge, they're working on this full-time. So they will be leading um the committees and providing the format and drafting the agendas and

once again thank you for volunteering and we'll be in touch soon about next steps. And anything else from the commission?

Yes, Commissioner Smith. wanted to check on [clears throat] noting that we're not getting a report on water tonight. Um just how we make this a regular thing and and get the information or is that now going to be done by these committees? um or because I think there's a general consensus on the commission that we want to be briefed on a regular basis about things that are going on in the city that are not the code of the plan and it hasn't been happening and that's I don't mean that as a critique. You guys are busier than hell. I know that. But I just would like to know what our expectations should be um uh about getting those kinds of

chair. Commissioner Smith, certainly the water briefing today was um intended to be one of those discussions. Uh Dan and I were just actually talking about other study session um items that we need to do. And one of the his suggestion was to talk about um conditions and how conditions what conditions are legal um or what conditions can be unclear to staff. Just giving you examples of if you're having to um create conditions on the fly, then this is how you do it. So, um, but we still have to collaborate with the city attorney's office on that. But yes, and if there are topics that you want us to investigate or an expert you want us to bring to discuss different um items and you want us to schedule something, please, we can't think of everything. So, we certainly would be happy to get input.

Should we we should probably go through the chair when we're doing this so you don't have nine, eight, nine people yapping at you all the time. Is that okay with you? just email me. Yeah, you can just email. It's fine. It's fine. Commissioner McGee,

I just wanted to mention one that I think we've requested in the past and that's uh just an overview from the parks department helping us to understand um what what is require like what are things that we could be asking for as we're evaluating a development um request. What are what are some things that are really difficult for the city that we might want to hesitate before asking for etc. Like even um I know we can probably all search this out but I think it would be helpful to know as a committee even like what are we trying to build from a parks uh perspective in the city in general. So I mean if we could get a report from from Melissa I think that would be great.

Yes. Um chair commission. Yes, we definitely will do that. And and it's interesting because we were having our general plan meeting and one of the challenges is that we have more parks than the city of Albuquerque does and it's really hard to maintain them. And so the general plan might offer an opportunity to rethink our parks as spaces that just not green. Can we repurpose something for affordable housing? Can we do something different that that will help our parks teams with maintenance but also still provide a gathering space more sub subteen centers is one of the comments we've received from the community. So um absolutely and and that brings to mind also um transit and that's a discussion that we've had as well. So that we'll put on the pallet. You know, another topic that I think could be very helpful and it would probably be legal that would be presenting it is if um staff is making a recommendation on a project that it meets the criteria um but maybe the commission uh or someone on the commission feels that um it doesn't comport with um the surrounding neighborhood or it even though if it you know if it meets criteria area and then there's this sort of um ability for the commission to say well it might conform with the code but we believe that it is um not in conformity with the surrounding area or it's not um helpful to or um health sa there's a health safety issue if we could have some information on that and maybe some case law um in terms

of at what level uh what the commission can say no we don't agree um and what would be uh the factual requirements that we would need to put in findings for that to occur I think that would be helpful because I think there's confusion on that issue sort of those vague uh code statements that you go you read it and you go what does this mean?

And and that speaks to how we probably need to improve that with face. Yes, absolutely. But in the meantime, in the meantime, we'll do something. We'll have a discussion on that. Okay. because that could be really helpful. Anything else? If not, we'll go ahead and adjourn. No damn