Parks & Recreation Board - Regular Meeting

Thursday, March 20, 2025
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About this meeting

Government Body
Parks & Recreation Board
Meeting Type
Parks & Recreation Board
Location
San Marcos, TX
Meeting Date
March 20, 2025

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561 sections (from 615 segments)

0:04 – 0:180

So we're called to order at 05:40. Action item number two is to set discuss and consider nominations in this and the selection of the position of chair of the Parks and Recreation Board. I I don't know. Are we gonna be able

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to hear him over there?

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Can y'all hear me?

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Uh-huh. And will you text it for us? Take that.

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Yes. I can hear you.

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Yeah. I can heard off the volume here.

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Yeah. I would Okay.

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Let's turn up the volume there.

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That's better.

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Yeah. Okay.

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I'm be before we start the discussion, I wanna just let you all know that I have to get going to a work event. But just from just to chime in, I would recommend John to be the chair of the board as far as my recommendation goes. I'm more than happy to stay as vice chair if if I'm voted in, but I think John would be a great addition to being a chair, so that's who I recommend.

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Yeah. Did y'all have any other nominations online? Were there any nominations?

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I do, but I need to, find her name.

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Board. Her chair?

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Yes. Or president?

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The it's the chair of the board? Yes, ma'am.

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Yes. Mhmm. Think you've learned that. No. I turned it off. Is

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it Amanda Fox? Does she have They to they have to be on the board in order to be checked. Right.

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It might be Amanda.

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I mean, if you're thinking of Laura, Laura is actually stepping down because she's relocating.

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I think Laura. I think Yes. That is probably Amanda.

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Okay. Amanda's not here, but that doesn't matter. She can but we haven't as long as the vice chair is in the room, then we they'll they can run the meeting. So you put forth Amanda Fox. Okay. So then is there any other nominations?

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You got John on there?

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Yes. Yes.

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I have John Tamides and Amanda Fox. So whenever Valerie calls your name, you're just going to say either John or Amanda for your vote. And then we'll have a chair, and I'm gonna hand it over to the chair. Well, if Amanda's not here, then we'll have to keep going. So go ahead.

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Benjamin Pack?

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Man, the box is not present. John.

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Maybe we go around. Yes. Peter.

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I vote John. Peter.

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Laura Sears is beyond one. Laura is not online. Okay. Dan Alden?

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John Tomides.

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Jordan Lane?

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Alright. Alejandra Raman? Amanda. Alright. And Doctor. Ish?

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We have enough there Yeah. That I can obtain? Yes. Okay.

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Okay. So, Mr. Tomides, you are chair. So I'm gonna hand the Okay. Vice chair one over to you.

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So item number three is discuss and consider nominations for the selection of vice chair of the parts advisory board, and I would nominate Benjamin Peck to remain as vice chair. Is there any other nominations? If not, if you could just call the roll, please.

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Amanda Fox is absent. Peter Sherhart?

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Eric Graiglin? Jordan Lane? Yes. Okay. John's. Yes. Benjamin Pat?

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Is there enough for me to think?

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There's We're just kinda modest that.

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Okay. Now you can read that item, and then but we

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can go to Zoom. Yes.

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Well, we're skipping our call. Alright.

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So this

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is time. Okay. Kristen, IT's on our way first.

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I'm really sorry. It's wonderful to see everybody. I have to get going. My apologies, and I will catch y'all next time.

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Thank you, Kevin. You wanna call it out?

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Yeah. And I will keep talking for you.

5:38 – 6:075

Thank you, everybody, for the the delay. We apologize, but these things happen with great technology. And I know we have a lot of folks here from the live stuff. We wanna make sure everybody gets their voice heard. We do have one speaker for a different item, so I'm gonna allow her to go first. And then I think it's a different item, but I'm not sure. No. Morgan. Okay.

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Okay. I can go first.

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Well, I'm gonna Can you say no to that?

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I know our county commissioner has another meeting to go to. So if it's alright with you, I will go ahead. Do you wanna start us off though?

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Okay. We got this stand right here?

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Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. And I'll repeat

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the time for you. Each speaker has three minutes, and so I'll kinda give you a ten second warning. Just please state

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your name for the record.

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Thanks, Kimmy. I'm Morgan Hammer. I'm here on behalf of Mission Able but advocating for the San Marcos Lions Club. So our executive director usually does these types of things. Her name is Monica Followell.

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So I'm just gonna read a statement for her, and I'm just here in presence for that. So she says, I'm very sorry I'm not able to attend today, but please accept this statement advocating for the San Marcos Lions Club in my absence. I cannot think of a better steward of the two rental than the San Marcos Lions Club. They main they maintain professionalism, transparency, and due diligence when it comes to utilizing those profits for the flourishment of our own community. As executive director of Mission Able, SM San Marcos Lions Club has been vital in our work of serving our neighbors with home repair.

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They give and serve sustainability and certainly live up to their mission statement. We are forever grateful for the San Marcos Lions Club and would strongly urge them to continue to have stewardship over the tube rental. Monica Falwell, mission able executive director. I will say as well, the Lions Club do a phenomenal job with what the services that they provide. I have a three year old daughter. Couldn't imagine anyone else to head that, operation up. So hope we all support our San Marcos Lions Club. Thanks so much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay. I have a

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whole list here, so I'm

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gonna go through and, you know, welcome our

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Excuse me, John?

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I'm sorry. I think I might have to recuse myself. I didn't know we're gonna start off with the Lions Club presentation. I am a Lions Club member, and I don't want to You're okay

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because this is public. Pardon? You're probably okay because this is citizen comment, and we're not voting tonight. So

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When the vote comes, you can communicate that directly with Jamie's Biden vote.

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Okay. Perfect. Yeah. I I love to hear the story. I I'm I You're good.

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I don't want

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to say anything right or wrong, but I am a Lion Club member, and and Brad represent.

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Thanks for letting us know, but you're alright for for Alright. Okay. So I'm gonna introduce our former leader and and Achio, the parts and body of the board for many years. So we'll let him spend it on.

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Build build start. Yeah.

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Build start.

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As much time as he may

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This is a really great group. I'm glad you all are serving this new member. I hope you find it fulfilling as I did. It's a it's a great group. So very intel oh, yeah. Very intel very intelligent, bud. It's a great group of guys. Okay.

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You ready?

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Yes, ma'am. Where there's a need, there's a lion. When it comes to the many needs of our community, there's the San Marcos Lions Club. Lions take their motto, we serve quite literally. These needs are met annually because of the success of the Lions Tube Rental operation in City Park.

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All profits are donated back to our community. Along with this tradition traditional emphasis to eradicate blindness and provide glasses for those with vision challenges, Lions also focus on the pillars of diabetes, environment, hunger relief, pediatric cancer, and our youth. While some might see a little connection between the Fun River two being experienced on a hot Texas day, the lions know better. The fun and serious go hand in hand. Since 1941, the San Marcos Lions Club has taken great pride in its partnership with the community.

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While many residents and visitors know the club by the bright yellow tubes they rent in City Park every summer, this organization of over a 100 plus hardworking volunteers has a history rich in helping to create the beautiful riverside community we all now call home. In the nineteen seventies, Alliance Club started its tube rental along the San Marcos River using an old cattle truck, affordable air compressor, and tire tubes. During the summer, the club rented 20 to 40 tubes daily. In 2013, the club sponsored a vision screening program for children, now known as Kidsight, in which any child may have their visions screened at no charge. The program continues today using a high-tech spot machine, which can detect in a few seconds vision problems in children as young as six months.

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Lions here and around the world continue to strive to answer Helen Keller's 1925 call for the lions to act as the knights of the blind. What started with 20 to 42 rentals a day has turned into the single largest fundraising event by the San Marcos Lions Club. We attract thousands of visitors to the city, and the two rental enables the club to donate many dollars to local nonprofits while also providing summer employment to a number of local students. We donate food to residents at Christmas time, scholarships to San Marcos CISD, and Texas State students. The lions are charter sponsors of Boy Scout troop one twelve, San Marcos Academy Leos, and Medical Explorer Post.

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By me, I'd like to say that the San Marcos lions have compassion for others and their needs. More importantly, they seek to do something about those needs. I'm asking that you please recommend to cancel the renewal of this lease so the Lions can continue to meet the needs of others.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Appreciate it.

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Our next speaker I'm just gonna go in order here is Diane Reedluff.

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My name is Diane Breedlove, and I'm here representing School Fuel. School Fuel, in case you don't know, is a nonprofit local all volunteer that provides weekend psycho food for this year, about 1,300 children. And this is our eleventh year. We are able to do what we do because of support from organizations like the Lions Club. I know it's your job to recommend to the city council the best way to maximize recreation and parks, facilities here in San Marcos.

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And I can't think of any better way to do that than to continue the Lions Club lease because any other lessee would need to make a profit. You know, the Lions Club has done so many things, Mitch pointed out, for the community, including providing a sack of food for about 10,000 almost 11,000 students in San Marcos, a weekend sack of food through School Fuel. They've given School Fuel more than $60,000 in the last six years, which, has gone away a long way to helping us support hungry kids in the school district. So I hope that you will recommend to the city council that they continue the lease with Alliance Club. And by the way, I'm not Alliance Club now.

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Thank you, miss. Next person on the list is Michael Cardone.

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Mister Tomides, members of the board. Amy, how are you doing? Michael Cardona. Yeah. It's good to see y'all too. Superintendent of the school, San Marcos CISD. I didn't know we're gonna write a speech, Mitch. I just have talking points. But got here nine years ago in May 2016, and you just heard Diane talk. And I think you all know the value of Lions Club and and the value that they provide to this community.

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We are a symbiotic organization. School Fuel, those 1,300 kids are my kids that they now have a permanent home in our new central office that they can distribute that food through. What a lot of people don't know is that the Lions Club parks their vehicles in our transportation center because we value that relationship, and what they do for this community. We've talking about scholarships. We've talking about the fact that the first thing they did was say, hey.

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Y'all have advanced academics kids who have to pay for AP exams, SAT exams. And they stepped up and provided funds so that no kid would have to pay for those funds. We know about Rattler Closet. We know about food deprivation in the city. They provide funds for clothing, for, you know, hygiene care, talked about the eyeglasses, what Mitch doesn't say is it's done at bottom. Pre k are most fragile at risk kids. I mean, I can go on and on. When COVID hit, it was gift cards to all teachers and, passes. They allow our students. They hire some of our students to work in their facilities.

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We have parents here who are alliance club members whose kids go to our schools that have graduated, that have are great contributing members to our community. So I would urge this group to continue that work forward, and I'm happy to advocate on alongside of y'all, for renewing their lease for the next twenty years or rec making that recommendation. Thank you all.

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Thank you. Excellent.

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Our next speaker is Danielle Castillo.

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Yes. Into the legs.

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Everyone. My name is Danielle Castillo, and I'm here representing Greater San Marcos Youth Council. We are so thankful to the Lions Club who has supported us for more than thirty five years. Your support, or their support, makes a tremendous impact on our agency, especially our residential program. GSMYC serves about a 150 kids per year, ages two to 17, who have been removed from their homes by CPS due to abuse, neglect, and various circumstances. Because of their support, we're able to continue to provide all the basic needs for the children from purchasing medications to a second pair of glasses they may need. You truly help us when no one else will. So I'm happy to be able to come and speak and show our support so they

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can renew their lease. Thank you. You're welcome.

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And Mary. She can unmute. Norma Blackwell.

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Let me see if I can get this. Well, first of all, thank you so much for supporting, the Lions Club in past couple of years, and we're here advocating for them just like they advocate for us in in the child welfare system.

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Just figure that.

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Norma Blackwell. I'm sorry. Norma Blackwell, the CEO of Casa Central Texas. So, I just wanna recommend, well, I have my notes here. So because I I strongly support renewing the Samarcus Lines Club lease for the two rental operations in San Marcos City Parks.

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This community service benefits many pro providing volunteers opportunities, student employment, and funding for local scholarships and charities like CASA Central Texas. The Lions Club, philanthropic support of children, youth, individuals, with disabilities and those experiencing homeless. Their tube rental revenue is crucial for these efforts. Reducing reducing the revenue would negatively impact cost side and other nonprofits, in our community. Please.

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I'm sorry. Please

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offer the most generous lease terms to support the Vital Community institution and the well-being of those who really on their service. Thank you so much, and I really appreciate it. So if you can bring it for forty years, that would be wonderful. Right?

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Think that's nice.

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Yes. But they've been instrumental in supporting us. And we right now, we're serving almost 85% of the children in in here in Hays County. So with their support, not only that, but, they've been instrumental in supporting us when we did built our facilities. So they're busy with Guardian Angel. It's not only gonna affect us, but it's gonna affect other nonprofits in our community. So please renew their lease, and we love the Lions Club. It costs us. Thank you.

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Thank you so Barbara.

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Next person I have on the list is Kelly Carter. If you'll state your name and you're within organization for, the meds.

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Hi. My name is Kelly Carter. I'm here representing the Hays County Food Bank. We wanted to come out to support the Lions Club because they are such reliable supporters of us. They're one of those few organizations or businesses or really anybody that we know every year we'll be able to count on, whether it's their grants program, they're sponsoring the various events we have over the year.

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One of the main things we always appreciate and count on them for is our turkey stock like hunger. This last year, we served, 1,500 turkey meal kits. Everything you need besides the fixings, everything largely in part because the Lions Club support. They were also gracious enough to sponsor our gala. All in all, they do a lot throughout the year for us very consistently, which is something that goes a long way, I think, in the nonprofit world knowing that our need is rising and the number of people we come through we see come through every week.

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We're serving about 800 folks on average, each week with the box of groceries. Knowing that we have steady support, they're backing us up, support that's really tied into our community and, I sees the need and the issues that, we have here in Hays County. We wanna give our just, unabashed support to the Lions Club, their wonderful program, which I do personally use and love every bit of advocacy we hear. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. And next on our list is Melissa Rodriguez.

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Now we must go like

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Yes. It's big difference. Everyone. Melissa Rodriguez. I'm the CEO with the Hays Caldwell Women's Center.

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I also am here to support the Lions Club. We we have had a solid partnership with Lions Club since 1997, and I don't even know if y'all know this, but lifetime giving, is a 156,000, has been the impact. Since 1997, that represents tens of thousands of survivors of domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault, and child abuse. And one one important highlight is the Lions Club also gave us the our seed money for our newest program, transitional housing, that's named now Marla's Place, which has been a life changing program. It allowed us to start a dream that we had for many, many years, and, it took us off the ground.

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And now we're housing these families. We have 16 moms with 44 children living on our campus, who are able to have a stable, safe home. And, in order to do that, we have to have community support, and Lions Club has been that partner right alongside us every step of the way. So we also would strongly urge, the community to continue, give that, what did you say, unlimited lease. The city has has been very generous with us in giving us a lease, and so I would encourage them to consider the same because they have an enormous impact in this community. And so, I'm just here to elevate that message and send that out and let them know that we want you to continue that work. So thank you.

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Thank you very much. Next.

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She came for her boss. She came for her boss. Oh, okay. Is it oh oh, okay. Gotcha. Corey Corey, we have a. No. No. Four. We're good. Oh, I've had everything. No. No. They're all good.

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Hi. Thank you. Cory Wheeler, president of San Marcos Lions Club. I have a prepared statement here, but I don't know. They took all my glory. Right? What I what I do wanna tell is something that they didn't tell as well. Right? I think we go above and beyond what you guys heard. Ultimately, at this point, I'm gonna come at you a different way as far as an economic and employment impact.

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Doctor, mister Cardona said a little bit about this as too. We hire about 70 employees a year at the tube rental. Most of those are high school students like that. They're first jobs, like that as well, working on the cashier, working as a tube handler as well. So, we've hired close to about a 150, 160 high school students over the past four years from our lease as well.

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We also, offer college students a little bit more, leadership roles, leadership positions in our program as well, as we have a a college student right now working as an assistant manager there and learning those life skills there as, an assistant manager at the two rental. We haven't talked to anybody about the tourist industry impact. Right? We are, a destination. The the the yellow tube is out there.

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We get people coming from Houston, Dallas, San Antonio College Station, South Texas, East Texas, West Texas. They are coming here. And what happens when they come here from out of town? They stay in our hotels. They shop at our local businesses, and they eat at our own restaurants, which is bringing revenue to the city of San Marcos, which we would not have if we didn't have the yellow tubes on the river.

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And, also, too, it gives us the ability because we have two rental ambassadors there talking about what San Marcos offers. So we are there also too offering the beauty, the charm, and and just the great awesomeness that San Marcos has to offer. Number three, city impact. I think we impact the city in a great way. We actually have come to the city has come to us for several things to purchase. We purchased the new weather system vein City Park. $10,000, no problem. It's yours. Go for it. Go for the Concord. We bought ATVs for the rangers in years past as well too. The city needs something. The rangers need something. We've been there to buy that. No questions asked.

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We are 100% supporter of the city and the park and rec initiative, which is a single use container van. We we we we came. We brought it. We told ourselves we're not gonna sell anything outside of water. Water is crucial to have at the river, but we sell a water with a reusable container, so they can put the water bottle in there, and we could keep, everything out of that. So we've won a 100% of that. Okay. Lastly, too, also too, various grants to support the fire department. We bought them new fire hoses when they had the big wildfires, and we bought them body cameras for the fire department. It's a police department. We pit we gave $10,000 to the hot team for homeless like that as well too, and we just bought them some go bags as well too. So we impact the city a great amount. City needs a need. We come up. We step up, we do it.

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You heard about our community impact. Ultimately, yeah. It's just a a a step. We offer 75 brands this year. We get five Okay. Yeah. One thing I do wanna say too, ultimately, is the one thing we haven't talked about is the environmental impact. I know the parks and recreation. Your big one is the environment and taking care of our natural resource. I can tell you that we are collaborating right now with the eyes of the San Marcos River, San Marcos River Foundation, Texas State University, City of San Marcos, the mermaids, everybody else who wants to come on board to make sure we are protecting that natural resource.

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Again, the single US container ban, single use container ban, we are full 100% supporter of that. We've given $30,000 to the park improvement fund, and we'll do that $10,000 every year as y'all have asked us in the lease as well. That, I'm assuming, is going straight to improving the parks and the wildlife and everything around the San Marcos River and beyond. We have actually reduced let me repeat that. Reduced the amount of tubes that have been in the river over the past four years.

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So we are putting less and less and less people in the river while still maintaining our operations and still giving to the community as well. So we are now, putting less strain on the river, less strain on the resources, but our stewardship in that aspect as well. And lastly, our faithful giving faithful giving to support the San Marcos River preservation. Give to the Meadow Center, the Smurf, Foundation, Mermaids, city of San Marcos, everything around there to preserve that. So what I'm asking today as the president of Lions Club is for five more years.

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Five more years to give back to Lions Club. Five more years to employ more students out there. Five more years to volunteer and let us get out there in the community, five more years to help us contribute, and most importantly, five more years to serve Hayes County and the greater San Marcos area. Thank you so much.

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Thank you very much. Yes.

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That that is gonna conclude everyone who signed up to speak. Yes.

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We're gonna take a quick break. Sorry.

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And so if everybody can just hang tight while they we we need to make it work with our colleagues.

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We wanna disrupt the two minutes.

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Hey, John. We you're not gonna we're done. Right? I mean, we are.

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I mean, if if you wanna hear this conversation tonight and Oh.

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Can you move parking up? I'm here. I'd like to hear what you got to say about parking.

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Maybe.

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We're live, and so we're recording. So we're we're back in.

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Okay. Get a. Okay. So so we're gonna get right to the discussion. But before we do for our colleagues that are online, we're gonna do we're gonna consider approval by motion of the minutes of the February 20 meeting. So if anybody likes to have

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a motion to approve that minute, motion to approve. We have a motion to provide the. Anybody?

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I'll second.

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Okay. Thank you, Pete. Is that Peter?

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Peter. Okay. Do we have

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a motion and a second for the minutes? Is there any discussion on the minutes? Anybody have anything on that? Hearing none, feel call the roll, please. Okay. Let's see. Dan Alden?

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Approved.

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Alejandro Roman? Yes. Gordon Lane?

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I approve.

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John Fides? Aye. Peter Sheerhart?

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Garrett Gribling? Aye. Okay. Motion passed.

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Okay. Well, thank you for that. And we're gonna go ahead to our discussion item number four, which is receive a staff update and a whole discussion regarding the San Marcos line and flood leaks removed. So I'll turn it over to Ms. Kate for

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Thank you, sir. Okay. I

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I know that our packet was, exceptionally lengthy, but I did include oh, Dan is Dan, you're gonna recuse yourself. Correct? So you can you can turn your camera off.

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Alright. So, yeah, I am. But, I was gonna say, the audio is not real good. I think

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the down there.

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Computer's on the end of the table is picking up the volume and not if you could turn it around, all I can see is Mitch. I love you, Mitch, but thank you.

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Here. I'll

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I'll sit a little I'll sit a

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little closer.

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That's much better.

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Better? Okay. Alright. Good good deal. Good deal.

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Okay. So I sent you all a very detailed memo dating back to the inception of when the Lions Club first began leasing with the city, and it dates back all the way to 1981. This by charter, any lease of park property by a nonprofit has to go to the voters if the lease is to extend beyond three years. The last, time that this, went as a ballot initiative before the voters of San Marcos was 11/02/2010 in which they approved, a oops. Sorry.

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Don't wanna misspeak here. They approved an initial term of five years commencing on 04/11/2011 with options to renew for up to four additional terms of five years each, and and, of course, upon mutual agreement. The we did renew this lease, with the Lions Club most recently in 2021. There were amendments that were proposed at that time by the parks board and considered by city council. We we city staff, here in the parks department, worked with the lions club, as well as the parks board, and the city council to, come up with the the lease terms that were ultimately approved, by the city council on, when did we do that?

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04/06/2021. Within that most recent lease, there were some changes regarding, the amount of, the lease that the Lions Club pays as well as in adding additional options, or requirements rather to, regarding litter, removal, and also saying that we needed to have this agreement approved annually by October 1. Then their next term will commence in April. So we we, as city staff, do not have any, recommended modifications or changes. I feel that it has worked well, speaking as as the parks director.

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We have they we have regular communication, during the busy summer season, and, we've have we've had a good working relationship with them. As they mentioned, they do, within their contract previously. There was no change to this, but they do, do a donation from the revenues that are received from their concession stand down at Rio Vista. Those, that donation does come to the parks department. We do pass that through, to the marshals that provide, our, public safety and law enforcement services.

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They're in the parks, during the summer. They have used those, as, mister Wheeler mentioned, to purchase, ATVs, or other equipment to assist them in their duties, in that capacity. Additionally, the last lease did require a park improvements donation of $10,000. If they receive more than $10,000, giving their their patrons, their customers an option to donate an additional amount to the parks department, then that 10,000 then it would go above $10,000, but that $10,000 is guaranteed whether they actually receive the donation amount from their patrons or not. And we have, utilized those funds to add additional trash receptacles, to do restroom improvements, and other riverfront park improvements over over the last term.

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So that money has definitely come in handy. And I think that in talking with the Lions Club, they did not have any suggested changes, to the lease either. So, I'm happy to answer any questions. Obviously, we have, the president of the Lions Club here as well, to address any questions the board may have. Next steps, following discussion, if the board is amenable, is to bring back a recommendation. Whatever that recommendation is, obviously, is to be determined based on your conversation here tonight. And that concludes my presentation.

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Thank you.

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Is there anybody online that, that's joining us that has any questions for miss Case or any comments about the Lions Club release?

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I have a question. How many other, tube companies are in San Marcos?

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We do not have any other tubing outfitters located within the corporate city limits of San Marcos. All of the other tube operators outside outside of the quarter corporate city limits.

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Okay. So this is the I guess, we only allow this company?

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That's right. They're a nonprofit, and so they're the we cannot have for profits operating on park property per our charter. So we can only have nonprofits lease parkland or park facilities.

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Okay. How about microplastics and, I guess, the leaching of the microplastics from the tubes? Do we have any data from that? I know the, Samarcus the ice of the Samarcus River finds I really don't have an estimate of how many tubes they actually find Mhmm. In the river. I also heard the question mentioned something about maybe kind of promoting or keeping, I guess, people, out of the river. How how does that work?

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Sure. So I don't have any data related to the microplastic question, but I can, I'm happy to address the tubes, situation that you're discussing. So during the summer, you know, I, work with, David Zambrano with the eyes of the San Marcos River to organize weekly Monday morning cleanups. We, as well, our parks crews, clean up on average probably 50 tubes every, I guess, Sunday morning, but these are private tubes. These are not Lions Club tubes that are being left.

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These are tubes that are being purchased by, our river patrons and then left. And so we're not we have not had any, lion's club tubes. I'm not saying that there's zero, but the the majority of them are all tubes that are purchased from big box real you know, retailers such as HEB, Walmart, Amazon or Amazon. Well, I guess they get them from Amazon too, but Academy. And then they're coming here for the day and then leaving.

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They may utilize the lion's club shuttle while they're here, but we also have the shared use pathway. So they also utilize that. But that that's primarily the majority of the tubes that we're finding.

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Okay. I have one last question. Yes, ma'am. With the aquifers decreasing water flow, do we have, I guess, another way to still, like, attain the money for the lion's club that is not necessarily through the tubes?

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I I don't know that they would have to change their business model. They they primarily operate a tube rental, so I I cannot answer that. And, I don't know if you if y'all heard that, question. Can can you repeat the the question? And you might have to

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So I guess I wanna know, are you guys prepared to have less water in the river? I know you help out the community in this way, and I I think it's wonderful. I think we also should consider that maybe we won't have this source. And also that for one, I'm concerned with several studies on microplastics in the water of San Marcos. And and do we have are we what what are we doing with that?

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Yeah. I can speak to that. Think from the answer, if I may, please. Yeah. As I said before, I I think, a majority of the traffic on the river is not Lions Club. The rec the the parks and recreation, the city of San Marcos says it's unsafe and it's not able to float the river. We're not gonna float the river. We are a thousand percent supportive of what the city and the parks recreation and things like that. If it's a low flow water and it's unsafe and we think it's gonna damage the ecosystem, well, then we will we will we will do another we'll do something else. Right?

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Ultimately, yes. And we'll support whatever they say as well. But, for the most part, like I said in my presentation, we are reducing the amount of bodies in that river. We're doing everything possible to streamline our operation, streamline our process well too while still maintaining our our our fundraising. And so, ultimately, yes. If there is a low flow water, if it is decom safe, we will figure something else out due to raise money to get to the community. Did I answer your question?

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Yes. Thank you.

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Yes, ma'am. Anybody else have any comments or questions online?

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Anybody in the room? Yeah. What's the can we increase the recommendation for the lease term?

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We cannot. We we yeah.

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Mandatory five year.

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Yeah. It's a mandatory five years because that was what was

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approved by the voters. So we can't change the lease term.

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Can we make the recommendation to put

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it on the ballot for an increase? That that could be a recommendation. Yes. I've if, obviously, I think that they're probably gonna wanna make sure that their lease gets extended first since it since it expires, you know, next April. So I think that they would prefer to have, at least, you know, another term. It does not go back to the voters until 2031 or '36, I think. Yeah. '20 yeah. 2036 is when it goes back. So they still have additional lease options, renewal options on the contract or that was approved by the voters.

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Sorry. Used to speaking contractually. So but the board could make that recommendation to city council to take it, you know, to the voters before the the term is up. But, I mean, I don't know.

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I don't know why it's one place.

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Yes, sir. Peter, I see your hand up. I'm sorry.

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Yeah. It took me a minute to formulate what I was trying to say. I think I think the Lions Club does amazing work. I don't see any reason we should not support this personally, but, I guess I'm just wondering based on some of the citizen comment we heard. It and this may be a stupid idea. I I accept that. I'm just gonna say it. But since they've seen community giving increase even while reducing the number of tubes on the river, is there any way we could work with them to, like, lean into the monopoly of this of the Lions Club and say, look. If you wanna if you wanna drop in from a city park, you have to use a lion's tube. And and that way, you know, regulate the overcrowding in the river and the parks that we've been seeing in the in prior summers.

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That's probably an insane idea, but I figured we're never gonna talk about Lions Club again for a while. So I thought I'd just bring it up now. It it it seems like they've had great success, great community feedback, and maybe this we could use this to work in our favor in other ways that we've discussed in other meetings.

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Sure. And that and that's a good question. Truly, the only way that we would be able to regulate or anything of that nature is similar is going to, pretty, high managed, access. So, lots of, you know, fencing to to manage where the people go and those kinds of things. We're not prepared to do that, obviously, right now.

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We are, that is a component of our riverfront parks design plan that we, as staff, our city manager's office wanted to explore what what is possible when it comes to managed access. This board has discussed that, and, so we we, you know, work to that end to the contract. So whenever we receive our design report here in the next few months, we'll see what's actually possible. But until we're able to, you know, regulate and manage the access pretty, you know, pretty well, kind of like what New Braunfels does, you know, they have, within their park system, they have the sole tubing operator. That's there.

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It's it's actually, I I don't even know who's who's really running it. I don't know if it's a city operation or a nonprofit. I don't wanna misspeak. But that they only way that they're able to regulate, you know, someone using a private tube is and and they actually, I think it's just an additional fee. They are allowed to bring a private tube, but they have to still pay that river access fee, which, you know, we don't have right now currently. So there there's multiple components to how we would even be able to implement something like that.

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Yeah. I guess I'm just wondering whether we would need to include anything in a new lease. And if if we were to decide, oh, we have money to control access better, is that something we need to consider before we approve another five year lease?

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Sure. I understand what you're saying now. I apologize. I mean, obviously, this body can make a recommendation, you know, to to the council, for for that inclusion. And, you know, we can massage what that language may look like if you want to send something or look at the existing lease, like, where something like that might where a provision like that may reside.

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Of course.

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So, Peter, are you saying that a lease provision for sole provider of tubes on our river? I I

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Yeah. Something like that. It was just a thought. Probably a

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bad thought.

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But this is the discussion session. So

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wondering if

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Uh-uh. How would you

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if it's more of in lines with the managed access efforts that we've been that are kind of been ongoing that are slow to take place, but I I I love the idea for when we when we have Truly it's a portion or most of the river, I think that makes something a provision like that a lot easier. I'm not sure how Lions Club might enforce that, I guess. That might be difficult.

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Yeah. And I think that that's why the city of New Braunfels has that river that river access fee. Yeah. Because the people still do bring their own tubes to float on. They just utilize, like, the shuttles and those things, but they're paying a a access fee. And I think it's I can't I don't know if it's $2 or or $3, but they pay an additional fee for for bringing their own flotation.

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In order to collect that fee, you have to manage the access.

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Correct. Yep. You have you still have to manage the access. Right.

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I think that's the that's the key to that idea that you just had in my eyes. Yes.

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And Alejandra has your

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Oh, I'm sorry. Alejandra?

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Sorry. I I just wanted to say that maybe we could, I guess, take a look at what new raffles is doing so that maybe we can facilitate some, like, a process that will benefit us. I also have to log off, but I wanted to say that before I log off.

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Yes, ma'am. Yeah. We we've met with new the city of New Braunfels multiple times, especially around the idea of managed access. So it's definitely something that we are using we're using them as a model so that we're not recreating the wheel, and we've had a lot of really great insights from them on the lessons learned over the years on a variety of things. So we we definitely, do talk to our partners over there.

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Awesome. Alright. Have a good night, everyone.

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Alright. Thank you.

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Is there any other questions or comments on

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Yeah. I I just wanna comment. I I would not support ever having any fee to enter the river. I understand, fees maybe for the tube part, but you should always have access to the river.

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K. Thank you, sir.

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Anything else on the Lions Club, please? I

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guess I just need, mister Chair, some some direction on what we we as staff would potentially bring forward on our next agenda. You know, is is the will of the body to have a recommendation on the next agenda, I guess, first. And and and if so, is it in support or or not? You read my mind.

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Edit that way.

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We work together a lot. Whenever he was mayor, I was his city clerk. So

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So, yeah, that's the question, for obviously, we're we're not voting on a lease this evening.

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You turn the computer. Sorry, Dawn. Oh.

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Oh. Returning to that.

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Hey. This is discussion only. The I I think I'm hearing please tell me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm hearing that everybody is interested in bringing back the Lions Club lease, for a period of five years, which is the max that we can do at this point. And is that something that staff can have ready for us at the next meeting?

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Yep. That'd be pretty pretty easy peasy.

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That's great. Is this sorry, Derek. Go

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ahead. And this is just before we close that up. What the financial how much does he see yet on the lines lease? Is there, like, 25%?

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Or No. It's a it's a it's an identified amount within the lease. Hold on. I just 10,000. It's it's actually it it ratchets up annual or for each additional term. He had to

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ask me that just as I I moved I moved It's in November.

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A year. So right now we're paying $11,100 a year

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I found it. Okay.

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Please. The last four years, we paid that.

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Right. And the the next term I'm just scrolling. Sorry.

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It's in the back.

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Yeah. Okay. It'll probably go up.

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It it it is going up. So the the next term, 04/11/2026 through 04/10/2031, the annual lease payment is $12,500.

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And so that's all the the money that the city gets from that?

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Oh, and then As far as direct from

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the line goes.

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And then we get the additional $10,000 donation on top and then the additional revenues from the concession stand. Yeah. So so now the concession stand money is not fixed. It is, fluid based on the number of sales. On average, it's around 14,000, over the last four years.

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And those are going direct to the parks?

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Those come directly to per per the lease agreement, it comes directly to the parks and recreation department. We do pass that through to the marshals for them to purchase equipment or anything that they need

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to do their jobs. And there have been circumstances, as mister Wheeler mentioned, that, like, when we put up our weather system in the park, they gave us $10,000. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In addition yes. Yes. So, yes, there are there are also those additional things. K.

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We're we're gonna need to provide direction. We're not voting this evening. So, can I have a amen if you are interested in bringing this back, to our next meeting? Yes.

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Peter? Yes. Absolutely.

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Is there anybody else online that we need? Oh my god. Do we have any?

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I think

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we have a. We're at five.

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We're still yeah. We're still in corn. Somebody else drop off? I wanna get that.

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Where's Dan? Dan dropped He

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was just

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Oh, but he's he's he can't say the thing?

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He recused himself for this item. So

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Mhmm. Well, we technically have four, and I guess four is consensus.

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Right? But we don't have a corn.

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Well, I'm gonna say we did have a plan for the direction.

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I I I believe I I understood before. Based on your discussion, I feel like I can I understood

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where I think that was an electronic issue? So but we're not voting this evening. So it will be back, and we will take a vote at that time.

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He did comment on, like, the no fees for Rivers if he was in that conversation.

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Yes. Well right. But yes.

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Alright. Well, I think you have your direction.

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Yes, sir. I I I understand. Yes. So

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item five is staff update and discussion regarding

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I mean, now we're we don't

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have a quorum. So I'm happy to provide the rest of the the updates to you, but I won't be able to Wait.

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Anything with Dan, see if he's coming back?

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I don't have his phone. Doesn't mean we have those numbers. I don't think I do. Oh, I don't have his number

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anyway, but

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I know that the chick does

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been an eventful for

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This is. It's normally not like this.

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Really? Oh,

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yeah. It's not normally. No.

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I wish it worked that way.

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Have you over here by proxy? By portal. Mhmm.

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Yeah. They're just texting.

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Well, we have three birds. Is

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that I know.

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What? Why why is there so many birds? Bart was really wanting to be engaged in this meeting.

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He said his computer camera is not working. But he said that's why you see my name twice. I don't know why we see his

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name three times.

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So yeah. We see your name three times.

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About video of

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this. It's a

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It's it's

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There's Bert. There's one Bert.

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What verbal? So what have we texted that?

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Yeah. Corey texted. Corey texted Dan? I did. Yes.

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I don't know if it's where he is. Is it five or four or four?

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Five because we have a nine member board. I know. Oh, give me 55.

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Peter? 345. Peter?

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Bert's a good staff member. I was Yeah.

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Works too.

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Got it. You said okay. He's coming there.

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Oh, thank god. Good.

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Then it says something on your brain.

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I I will I will make this as quick as possible. Give me a minute. Because I think we do need some direction on item number 7.

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And 88. There

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he is.

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Alright. Yay, Dan.

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Don't go anywhere, Dan.

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You're back.

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We need you. We need you. Good

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luck. Alright.

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Alright. Well, we're glad you're back, sir. You're saving our day.

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Okay. So

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Well, I appreciate that.

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Yes, sir. Okay.

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Sorry about that.

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Receiving a a staff update and whole discussion regarding Cape council did approve the, contract with Friesen Nichols on Tuesday night for us to conduct our feasibility studies, as previously directed by city council. They did, following their discussion, they provided direction that the priority option is rehabilitation. So the so Friesen Nichols will be you know, we'll provide other options based on whatever data is is I guess, what they I'm going brain dead right now. I am sorry. They will review all of the data and studies, and then they'll compile the option for city council to tell them whether or not it's feasible to rehabilitate the dam.

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If it comes out that it is not, then they'll provide additional recommendations based on that information that they gather. The process will include public engagement, and it will take approximately ten months to complete. So in the meantime, we are going to continue our efforts on making the area safe as safe as possible in the meantime. So that is, that is where we are.

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Any questions, commissioners? Seeing none, let's

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go ahead.

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So, I I have a question. On the, the study, will there be a a peer review? Because I think that was a major issue with the previous Right.

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Yeah. So they're gonna be reviewing all available data. It's so they're not doing a field survey, which would take a lot longer. They are doing what's called a desktop survey where they doubt that data will be reviewed as far as, hey. This has been previously done.

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But we have had conversations with the contractor, and they are very much aware of the history and the opposition to the data that was presented in that that one particular study, and that it wasn't peer reviewed. So they're gonna be reviewing multiple things because the city did commission an additional study as well at that time. So there's a lot of data for them to to utilize, not just for what's been done specifically for the city, but they have other models that they're able to run as well in house to look at, you know, various flow rates and all of that jazz too. So they're they're going to be doing it as expediently and as thoroughly as possible, to evaluate that structural integrity, the environmental, the historical, and then the potential recreational opportunities.

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Yes, sir.

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How much were the

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two months ago?

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The the total was 340,000.

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That's what I thought of.

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Yeah. So we would no matter what we do Google? I'm sorry?

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For a Google?

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Oh, it's way more than a Google. Okay. No. It's way more than a Google. It's more, yeah, it's it's more intense than that. But the we would have to have a series of studies done for permitting anyway. So it's, not necessarily money wasted. Because if if they do move forward with rehabilitation, we would still have to spend the dollars. Any

1:02:095

other comments or questions about item five? If not oh, go ahead.

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Will will the results of

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the survey, will that come back to us? Is that gonna go straight to the council?

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So that this body will be part of the public engagement component. So you will get to review the conceptual designs and make recommendation. Okay. Yes, sir.

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I think we'll head on to item six.

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Okay. So receive a staff update and hold discussion regarding paid parking implementation in City Park in Rio Vista. So not we have ordered the equipment. So the equipment, as far as the meters I know, Mitch, you're so excited. Awesome.

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The meters have been ordered. We have we have executed the contract with one of the pay features, the pay by phone. So that contract's been executed. We're finalizing the contract with IPS, which is the actual enforcement component to the project, but we are getting exceptionally close. So by next week, I should be happier, I guess.

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It's been it's it's lightning fast, and I think that our goal was well, I think that the city manager's office expects that we are to roll this out by June 1 in City Park, not in Rio Vista, but just in City Park. And, yes, I I understand your skepticism here, Mitch. Trust me.

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Wait. What do see?

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Okay. We have to park when we go

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to work the two boat.

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Yeah. You have to park. Park. You can

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park in our Grant Harris parking lot and walk over.

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Yeah. Yep.

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Okay. Any any comments, questions, pal? For that. No. Okay. I'm hearing none, so thank you for that. Now we can take number seconds.

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K. Receive a staff update and hold discussion on Rio Vista Tennis And Pickleball Court resurfacing project. I'm gonna turn it over to assistant director, Jessica Rose. Alright. Bye. Bye. Thank you all.

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Thank you, guys.

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I mean, I

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don't know

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the packet.

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I don't know how I'm even gonna do that. Okay. Don't worry about it. Let let me Okay.

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Well, but it's is it in the packet? It is. Yes. Okay. Yes.

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in your packet, I shared some additional photos that we received from Cortex, which is the company that we are working with. They're the ones who originally did the surfacing of Rio Vista Tennis Courts. So they're really excited about the project. And so they did propose, primary pickleball courts, secondary tennis. And when we kind of talked about it last time, y'all mentioned that you wanted me to reach out to, the high school tennis coach, and I did do that.

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We had a great email conversation. And he what he said was, he would like to see us, and I did do an overview also of what they currently look like. So you can see currently that we have the, the middle two courts are what, are lined currently with primary tennis, secondary pickleball. What he would like to see is it to look just like that with primary tennis. Who is he?

1:05:44 – 1:06:111

He I I discussed this with, I was directed last time, by the little by the board to speak to the high school tennis coach, coach Martinez. And so, what he would prefer to see is keep everything primary tennis, with secondary pickleball, and he would like to see us move exactly what we have pictured, the screenshot that's in the packet.

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Hold on. I'm I'm bringing it

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over, Jess. The yes. So down to the next one.

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Just give me one

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second so I can bring it up on the share on the Okay.

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Excuse me. Okay.

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You said go down?

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Yeah. To the next page where I have to have the actual overview first of the of what we currently have. So keep going. Sorry.

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The next one.

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The screenshot there. Right there. So you can see there that this is what what it currently looks like. And so what he would like to see is these tennis courts where we have the eight pickleball courts over two tennis courts, but he would like to see those next, on the next one to the left. So he wants to see those shifted over there. Yes. But he would, like I said, still like to see primary tennis, secondary pickleball. And then he suggested, if you scroll up, Jamie, that he would like to see scroll up to the first paper. He would like to see all the tennis courts to have one pickleball court in addition. He would like to see it's very confusing.

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I'm sorry. Five and six to be what we currently have, which is the eight pickleball courts. And then he would like to see each tennis court have be set up like this where it just has well, that it would be That's two for two pickleball courts. Yes. Two pickleball courts per one tennis court.

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So how do you play tennis on that? Or you can't, but you're saying it's out.

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Well, I'm sorry. Go down to the next picture. I I said the wrong one. So that's that's what he doesn't want. This is what he wants. That's a tennis court with secondary pickleball. In the the likely lines here? Yes. That's pickleball. So he is actually suggesting to add more pickleball courts, which we don't have nets for currently.

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So what, Matt? Yes, please. Ask a question. If you have this, are those the is the blue in that picture regulation tennis court?

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I believe so.

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I think it is. Yes.

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I don't know. You would know more than me.

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You're Yes. The the dark blue is regulation tennis. The light blue lines are pickleball.

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Which the colors I

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have Where's is there a there's a bird there's a a net, a pickleball net in this picture that's blocking what would be the service line. Right?

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It's a temporary net. They they roll in and roll out.

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No. I get that. But I don't see a service box in this court to play tennis in.

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Yeah. I think I think when they they had to take the color out of the other picture to simulate what that would look like because they don't have any that are that are primary tennis and and secondary pickleball to use as an example. So they photoshopped the the the color out. And I think when they did that, they, took the service box out. On

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my computer, it just seems like, I'm zooming in on my packet. It's just a an angle issue. It's just the top of the net's right over the line.

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Yes. That's what I was about.

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Yes. I think which that net wouldn't be there.

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John, that was exactly why I asked this question to run it past the kids that actually have scholarships and stuff riding on it to make sure that it's aesthetic to them so they can see it and make sure that it's not, you know, making a a big old mess out there with lines like. Well, that was all I was Yeah. Trying to get, make sure that they had clarification as far

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as the design. Yeah. I mean, it's it's obviously, it's not ideal the way it is now with the lines. It's hard to do. Yeah.

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If there was an easier way to into it.

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I I I do feel like, you know, I don't wanna give I don't want this community to give up on Tennessee there. Exactly. Right. Yeah. And, you know, those task force were hard fought to convince voters because the money was voter Really? Through a Hays County bond and matched with a lot of city money that took a long number of years to accomplish because prior to what we have there now, they were asphalt courts. Yeah. And they were with waves and Mhmm. Cracks. Mhmm.

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They were not playable. So I know pickleball. I get it. I see it out the kissing tree all the time. And and they, you know, have a vibrant community there that's playing pickleball. If we've got indoor pickleball over at the rec at the at the activity center. So I'm not opposed to people playing pickleball there because they're doing it anyways, and might as well recognize that. But I don't wanna give a shit. You know?

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Primary tennis is on your side.

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I just feel like we have to have some tennis courts too because that's it. There are no other tennis courts, but there's a ton of other pickleball courts. Yeah.

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Well, and this would keep all six tennis courts. And the and what, you know, the the options are, obviously, is primary tennis, secondary pickleball, or primary pickleball, secondary tennis. So like, anything? You you mean take away the but but the you know, that I think that's what

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sports are now.

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Yes. Six tennis courts. Yes. And taking away any is that what you're saying? Taking away

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tennis courts? Just leave some tennis courts that are just tennis.

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Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Yeah. And that that is that is yes.

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But these

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I was just reading what the tennis coach suggested. Be sorry.

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Yeah. No.

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No. No. That's not what I'm that's not what I'm proposing at all. I'm sorry. I was just since I was I was just reading what he was asking or what he was

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So in your in your discussion this evening, what is what what direction are you looking for?

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Well, mainly the primary pickleball, secondary tennis, or primary tennis, secondary pickleball. I think staff is fine with leaving the number of courts that we have because that's what we have nets for anyways.

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I think the tennis coach was just trying to

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Give the pickleball or so.

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Yeah. Bone. Throw him a bone a little bit. But I and I think what I do agree with also with what the tennis coach wants is he wants to move those where the pickleball courts are over, yes, to the five and six because they do their championship games in the middle. And so having all the lines can be very difficult for them. And so

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There's backboards on

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On one and yes. One and two. Yes. Yeah. One. Mhmm. For practice. Correct.

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You know? That's how I like to play tennis. It's a wall. And I hate to give that up.

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Right. So

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I so I you know, it's just my opinion and not as one board member. But so are you saying that all the courts would be both?

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That is what he suggested. So I'm just I was just reading what he suggested. He felt that it would be a win win for the community. But as I as I said, we do not have we only have pickleball nets as you see there. We only have eight pickleball nets. And so if we were to move that over and put one pickleball court on each side, we would have one two three four five six seven eight more. We don't have eight more nets. People would still have to bring their own.

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So And they were an investment.

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Yeah. We paid $20,000 for those for those for those eight.

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And and the guys were just is more than just striping. You're you're gonna reach Yes.

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Yes. The whole thing? They're well, I mean, it it it could use some love. Yeah.

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Is it okay. So I'm gonna ask you a question about surface because that's

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a big part

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of the game. Sure. You know, a brand new tennis surface is gonna change the way the ball bounces. I'm shocked. When did we cut the rhythm for this thing? 2000 and It was nine or eight.

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I think it was nine. Because it I think

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it was right before I came.

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And just a little bit of history of it, they surfaced it. They built it. And the surface was applied in, like, the hottest part of the summer of the hottest frontier in Redwood, and it failed. Mhmm. And they had to come back. It fell quickly. And back shortly after it was opened to public, and they had to take it all up and start over. And but they started over, and it it's that's the last time I think it was surfaced.

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I I I believe so. I think so.

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And it was whoever did the surfacings the second time did a. There's very, very few cracks on that quartz.

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it's the same dent. I think

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it is the same dente. Me too.

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And that's part of the the reason we wanted to go with them because they are very familiar with the quartz. I guess my question They

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did a great job with that.

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Construction for it usually.

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Yeah. That thing is built, like alright. Well, I got a lot of pictures of it. Worked very hard to get the same tennis courts built. So

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Once again, I I think that the traditional tennis culture should be maintained at least part of it. And if it's the center where they do the championship matches, I think that should,

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you know, maintain integrity of it. Yeah. I think they wanna move it over towards the

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cheese. Yes. Correct.

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Correct. And I I think I think that's where the pickleball should be and blind and, you know, means it, like it says, leave the center. But personally, for me, I would still leave the other two. You can always change it later and apply and instruct True. Strike me.

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We did it ourselves before.

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I mean, this is this is the this is the product of our very talented crew guys doing it by hand. Yeah.

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And it's like the parking lot yellow paint. That's what it is.

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Yeah. Oh, that you know? But it's gonna look just as busy with even if they come in Mhmm. And do a professional job, it'll look new, but it's gonna be busy. Yep. There's a lot of lines, and it's like, was it in? I don't know. Was that a pickleball line? They gotta turn it on.

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Yeah. And and I'm I'm, you know, I'm kinda hearing the conversation, you know, too. I mean, we are obviously going through the Riverfront Park's design plan right now. It is very pickleball heavy.

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But they are also wanting an indoor outdoor facility out at the East Side Of Regional Park. So There's gotta be So we obviously you know, we have to balance. These are our

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only team in sports. Yeah. Pickleball fan. Well That's

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what I've always told them is that it is a balance, and we try to meet the needs of of every, you you know, interest as best we can. But we do have to balance those interests with each other and not necessarily, you know, remove Right. An activity just to create a new one.

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There's still a lot of people that play tennis. I'm I'm part of a I don't play as much as I used to. We but there is a weekly group that sends out a message for where and when and how, you know, how to show what I'm showing about and all that stuff. So

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I is there Peter, do you

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have any comments on it? Or

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I think I agree with what you and Derek were saying. I I and I think the key part of it is what the the coach said. You know, if they think moving the courts, the pickleball to the end would help their tournaments, I think that's great feedback. I think that's key. But, yeah, I I don't you know, if the voters approve tennis courts, that's kinda where I think the emphasis should be. And with eight pickleball courts and six possible tennis courts, there are already more pickleball courts than tennis courts anyway. So I think I think there's kind of enough where there is.

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And I think there's no chance that any any future park that we build on the East Side with the old country club property. We'll have to Will not have pickleball court. It's gonna have a there's no doubt about it.

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If we don't

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think there's gonna be riots.

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Yeah. And I think

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that there's going to be some private sector fall. There's a that's a big I'm seeing a lot of that type of development as well.

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Mhmm. So One one thing, like I mean and the only reason I brought that up, those kids are playing for scholarship and stuff like that. It's an actual sport. Why can't we dual purpose some of the basketball courts? Because we got a basketball court in, you know, over there in Kenny Copeland Park. I mean, it's barely used. Why don't we dual purpose those? We have them everywhere.

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That's a

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good idea, actually. I really like that. Yeah.

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I mean Yep.

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That's a really great suggestion for you, though. Cool. I know Dunbar is exceptionally very popular. So I don't think can away with it at Dunbar, but that's really great feedback, and really appreciate that. Yeah.

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That is really good. I like it. Cool. Okay. So what I'm hearing is y'all, like, tennis, secondary pickle pickleball, what we have set up but moved over.

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Yeah. Yes. And then Okay. Cool. We're gonna actually do bid, I'm guessing, for the.

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We've already got one with this vendor. They're on a buy board, and, obviously, they they were actually as, you we know, mentioned that they were the company

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that did it before.

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So they'll be resurfacing all things?

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Yes. Yes.

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Yeah. And we'll coordinate.

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And correcting any cracks, all of that stuff.

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That's the best bill of times to work in in

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Yeah. The so the owner of the company was just a, like, a a young kid, and it was, like, his first job working when he did the tennis court. And now he owns the company. So this is a very special project to him, so I know he'll handle with care. So he's looking for colors? That is the plan. It's the same.

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That was mean, unless y'all have other Preferences.

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Those were the those were the super new tennis court colors back

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Yep. When that was built.

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Yeah. Want us to bring back some color options? We definitely can. I definitely don't obviously, we we know how y'all felt about the orange ones. We're not fans of that either.

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We took that off the

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That was.

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Yeah. We we thought the green and blue is is very pretty. It goes with Rio Vista theme, and so not necessarily changing the the color scheme so much.

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Probably the color. Yeah. Like that.

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Well and some of the the colors that they mentioned are easier to purchase to, you know, do any touch ups. Some of those weirder colors are not as easy to get. Yeah. Alright. Cool.

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Alright. Good. We have introduction?

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Yes. Yep. Alright.

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So that's gonna take us to item eight.

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I will bring it up, Jessica, if you wanna start talking. So item eight has received receive a a staff update regarding room naming at Dunbar Recreation Center and whole discussion regarding a possible recommendation resolution to city council in support of naming the rooms as presented by staff. So, Jessica,

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I'll let you lead off, and then I'll bring this up. Great. I know I recently got to break the new or let y'all know about the news that we got a Lone Star Legacy Park designation for Dunbar Park, which was really exciting. And in order to get that designation, I did a whole lot of research on Dunbar Park that I I I knew not a whole lot about it. And so when I started researching, it became very apparent that there were a lot of people that were very instrumental in making the ballpark what it is today.

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And so all the rooms what what we call the rooms inside is large room, small room, arts and crafts room. And so in talking to Jamie a little bit about it, we thought room naming may be a good way to honor some of those people that were so instrumental, and their names were just so consistent within everything that I was seeing. And so what you'll see here is the arts and classroom, I thought naming it after Harvey Miller would be fitting because mister Miller was instrumental in coordinating community programming on behalf of the parks and recreation department in the late seventies and early nineteen eighties. We acquired Dunbar Park in the associated building, which was the Dunbar School in 1973. And Mr.

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Miller was commissioned by the Parks and Rec Department to do all kinds of different activities there, youth sports programs, Juneteenth celebration, arts programs, summer camps, dances, movie night. I mean, you name it. He was doing those activities there at Dunbar. And so now we use that that room, we call it the Arts And Crafts Room, to host a lot of events that like the ones that he did. So camps, classes, things like that.

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So I thought it was pretty fitting to put mister Miller associated with that room. The large room, I was really interested in Ola Lee Coleman. She was the longest career with at the Dunbar School. So so she taught there for thirty five years. She retired in 1951 and taught generations of local San Marcos residents.

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She was never married, or she was married and had no she had no children. So she whenever they went to name Dunbar in 1961, the building, she was one of the names that were taken into consideration. It was Abraham Lincoln, Ole and Paul Lawrence Dunbar. And, ultimately, the San Marcos school board, because it was still run by the by the school district, they voted on Paul Lawrence Dunbar. So Ole Coleman, you know, at one point, it was considered for the building name, so I thought the largest room in the building would be fitting for her.

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Is she do

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you have a mural with her as well? I

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don't know if we do it.

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Oh, I don't know. That Where?

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Hers down I

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And down in

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You know,

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I know exactly the mural you're talking about, and I don't know. No. That was a shop owner.

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That was not Yeah. Yeah. That was not

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Yep. It's just down the street.

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It's really pretty. Tracks parts. Oh, cool. There he

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is. We are.

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Mhmm. I wonder if that. Yeah.

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I hadn't seen it. I mean, I've probably seen it, but, I didn't see anywhere that it was misplaced. So yeah. So then the the Dunbar Swarom, whenever the school district went to sell in 1973, the mister and missus C. D. Marshall, it's Courtney and Francis are their names. They are the ones who fronted the money to the city to purchase the building and the park. And so I thought it would be fitting to also name a small room after them.

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What year was that?

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1973 is when the city purchased Dunbar Park from the school district. And the you know, mister and missus Marshall were actually very heavily, excuse me, heavily involved with the school district. She was on the school board, and he was on the name of the committee. It was the board of equalization for the school board.

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So they donated the money?

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$31,000. Yes.

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To buy it?

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Yes. They donated the money to the city. And in that, that documentation, it says it will be forever used as a park. We're gonna give you this money, but you buy this, and it's always gonna be a park. So they were the ones who gave the city the money.

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So, in addition to to these these folks, we would like to honor the first five. I know y'all may be familiar with them. They were trailblazers within the community. They were the first black women to enroll in classes at Texas State when segregation came to an end. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. 1963. Yes. '60

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Well Yeah. And they're

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currently on They

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didn't get in.

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Was that was when it was authorized for them to enroll.

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And they enrolled the same day.

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Same day they enrolled.

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Enrolled the day after.

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Because she

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was at another school, she transferred.

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That was miss Frank's.

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Yes. Miss Frank's. Neighbor.

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Yeah. She was my neighbor.

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Oh, I love that. They're all

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familiar. So

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Yes. And so we wouldn't be able to our ordinance would not allow us to name anything after them at this point because they are still living. But we we are able to put a plaque to honor them. Yes. So we would love to also do that because they're really important to all of this

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as I've well. Had conversations. Yeah. And Ms. Frank's whenever she was being honored as for the first five because they have the first five Freedom Hall, a residence hall at Texas State. That's named after them as well. And she came and provided me the flyer, and, she's just such a doll. And she was she mentioned a long time ago that she would love to see something recognizing the first five at at Dunbar because the majority of the five were all students there. Mhmm. And so I held on to that. And whenever Jessica brought this idea up, I said, hey. I have another thing.

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Yeah. So

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So that would that would live in the foyer. And as I said, we wouldn't be able to to name it after them, but we would, you know, do a wonderful tribute to them.

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That is the one. Any comments on that, colleagues?

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Next steps would be that we'd write a recommendation resolution for you to actually vote on next time.

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Perfect.

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That would that would ultimately go to city council because it does have to be approved by them.

1:29:541

But I'm happy to answer any questions. I I did a lot of research and really enjoyed it. So it was it was I think he's made some great recommendations.

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Thank you. And look forward to seeing that back at the earliest convenience. Okay. Would it be possible to have him brew number nine?

1:30:141

Yep. I'm not gonna I was just about to say.

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We included all the park projects in your package. I'm happy to answer any any questions you may have. Obviously, we don't have to necessarily discuss them tonight. I really don't have anything major that I can't update update you on or haven't already updated. The major ones, I've already provided updates on it. Take the surveys. Take the surveys. Our our surveys do close for the Riverfront Park plan and the Eastside Regional Park plan on March 31. So if you haven't yet, I know you're new, but I hope you take it. Please.

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And then our last open house is next Thursday in Dunbar. So we expect that it'll be very popular. Last night, we had our sixth open house at De Zabala. It was not as well attended as some of our other ones, but we're we're excited to have our our final first round of engagement conclude next week. Then we will the the consultant will put together all the concepts, and then we'll have more public engagement in May.

1:31:215

You said it was next Thursday at Dunbar?

1:31:230

Yes, sir. 05:30 to eight.

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Come and go.

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Come and go. It's a charrette.

1:31:271

Yeah. You don't have to go. Look. You don't have to go.

1:31:325

Send you wishes from Charter Review.

1:31:350

Oh. Well

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Well, if you get done

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promptly, if you get done early, you get done before eight, we'll

1:31:425

get done before. Oh,

1:31:441

no. Oh, okay.

1:31:454

I I'm I hear you. I'm

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still upset. Okay. Derek, did you have any questions on the black ball branch? Same thing with Tan, or if you can.

1:31:571

We don't typically have a whole lot. Just if you have any questions about what was included in your packet, we're happy to answer.

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Thank you. Peter, anything else from Dan? Nothing else? Okay. No, sir. Well, thank you, colleagues, for your support and your vote this evening. I appreciate it. Is there any questions or answer that we can provide answers to from the press or public?

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The public that has remained.

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The states and public.

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The states

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and public.

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I see no one who champagne for Forget it. No one's rushing to the podium, so I will declare us adjourned at 07:21.

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