Human Services Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

Hi, everyone, and welcome to the 10/22/2025 regular meeting of the Human Services Advisory Board. I will call the meeting to order at 06:02PM. Carol, will you please take roll?

Okay. Lucy Gonzales? Let's see here. Let me check my participants. Nope. Nancy Erwell.

Gotcha.

Elias Martinez is not gonna be here. Linda Harper Williams, also not. Ethan Graves?

Here.

And Sherif Gracies?

Here.

And Lucy Johnson? Here. Alyssa Ramirez?

Here. Alright.

Alright. With five out of seven voting members in attendance, we do have a quorum. I'm gonna move on to system comments. We invite all local residents, business owners, friends of San Marcos to speak. Do we have any attendees?

We do not. No. And

seeing no one in the room, I will skip citizen comments. Next up, we have the minutes for approval of the October 15 meeting. Do I hear a motion to approve?

No, sir.

Second.

Motion made by Yancey. Sorry. She was eating. And seconded by Sherif. Any discussion on the motion to approve? No? Alright.

Yes. Ethan?

Yes.

Sherry?

Yea.

Lucy? Aye. Alyssa? Yea. Okay. Aye. K. Motion passes unanimously. Now we will go to our action items where we will go back to our previous discussion regarding the applications, we have 12 more applications to discuss, I believe, or is it 13?

It's kinda 13.

Okay. 13. Carol, will you bring up the Excel document?

He's still working on it. Okay.

Is. Oh, what you say? At?

Mhmm. Nice.

Okay. Here we go.

Okay. Everybody can everyone see the spreadsheet?

And online, you are hidden from us. So if you'd like to speak, just go ahead and shout something out. Don't don't, wait for a raised hand, because all we can see on our screen right now is just the Excel spreadsheet. So Yep. If you have something to share, just go ahead, yell it out. That's easiest way to do it. Okay. Let's back up and figure out which item we will be discussing.

Oh, here's this one. Sorry. Okay. This is the four discussion spreadsheet y'all were working off of last time. And then here's the draft recommendations on that column s, and then we have starting about right here. I think it's Greater San Marcos Youth Council, number 24, and on down.

Okay.

To discuss. Oh, and we are at 513 out of seven fifty. And I do think y'all were talking about maybe revisiting, you know, to confirm the ones he had done too. It's just I think that was part of the discussion. But so do you do you wanna leave, or you want me to facilitate or just, you know, call out who we're talking about?

You can facilitate.

Okay. Just a quick question.

While I do my math and figure out. Yes.

Do we have to give out all $7.50? Or

You don't have to. Okay. Yeah. And what

happens with the entry, just go back to the general? Yeah.

Okay. Let's see. Back to getting oriented.

We have 237,000 left. Took me an embarrassing long time to do that.

Yeah. I

found a piece of paper.

Yes. Because I was looking at the amount of stuff over, and, yeah, we could promise you.

Can we have a square underneath that $5.13 with the amount left that we have? Look. I was wrong.

I wasn't gonna say anything. Okay. And then let me know if y'all wanna see this any differently. I know it's kind of a lot of information, and we can make it smaller or bigger. You know, what we have on the spreadsheet is requested here in green.

The minimum they've said they needed, over here, although part of the discussion last week was, yes, in the past, we have provided less than what they say they needed minimum. And so, y'all started doing that, you know, again this year. Here's kind of an average recommended funding, and then we've got the scores. We have an average score, but we also have them ranked by how many greens and yellows and pinks they have. So that's just reorienting to the spreadsheet.

And then we are down here. Greater San Marcos Youth Council Children's Shelter. Is that right? No. Family Needs Success. So they have two applications. Okay. And we're up here. Family Needs Success. You can see kind of the range of scores here. And then they are asking for 45. 40. With 40 as a minimum? Sorry.

So I I was at 45, but if the average is 35 and what we gave last year, I could we're coming down 35.

Giving them the average? That much is Yeah.

It depends on what people wanna do.

Yeah. Because

even if even the average 35 would be at lower, almost 20% actually.

Any comments from online? I just wanna be sure we're not missing you.

No. I'm good so far.

Okay. I was wondering if we could hear him at first. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. Okay. Thanks.

Yeah. I'm okay with the average of 35. I know I have it as 33, but I think my math got a little off. So I technically have, like, six k left over, so I'm good with 35.

Okay. Yeah.

Seems like

35 is our number.

Consensus. Okay. Then we have, scrolling over, Shag Center program facilities. Mhmm. And this was you can see kind of the we're really getting into the ones that,

you know, there's a lot

of just difference between the low, middle, and high scoring. Mhmm. And when they requested 15, I think that's the one that was switched. It was.

And you were gonna follow-up with them?

Oh, I did not. I forgot. Let's assume it's We can

I think that's a reasonable assumption? Okay. So 20,000

request, 15 minimum. It looks like overall, Linda Oh, she did not do the

gave them a 100.

She gave them a 100. So I think her tactic was anybody she wanted fully fund, she gave a 100, and everybody else, she wanted to fund nothing except for there was $1.75. Love it. Speaking for her, since she's not here. Also, we do have Ethan's notes. He's not gonna be able to be here tonight. But Ethan. Elias. Elias. We have Elias' notes if we wanna look up something that he you know, if if there's a big difference or something.

Looks like it's zero.

Yeah. So, Ethan,

what what are your thoughts on that?

Oh, Ethan, what are your thoughts?

I'm sorry. What agency are we on specifically?

We are at center program facilities.

Okay. I believe my thought with this was that we were they had, like, the two programs, and then they had the other affiliated programs. So I think I chose to not fund that one in the interest of funding one of the other ones fully or partially.

But

I'm also okay with the average or going with what the group wants.

So I don't know if Linda's here, but I think hers would be 15. But they're not speaking at school. She's not here. You

know, we we spoke about this one at length last meeting and about the and Hill Country mental health services in general applying for so much this year in comparison to other years. That means that I'm a sucker for juvenile mental health care, and this is exactly what these guys do. And their facilities are really important to that mission because it houses teenagers and teenagers who need a lot of tender love and care. So I'm I don't wanna say give them the full 20 because we're already giving them up, but I'm okay with 15. So we'll see facilities is what we're on.

Yeah. See, the reason I went with 10 is,

again, they

they ask for quite a

bit. Mhmm.

And if we give them 15 here plus 21 that we already gave them, that's 36,000. That's almost three times as much as they we gave them last year.

So but are we still combining Shard with Hill Country? No.

No. We're just talking about Shard right now.

We'll Okay. Hill Country. I mean, like, I didn't mean I'm saying we shouldn't. Oh, here's Shard. Okay. We have mental health services clinic. That's what you're talking about. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So that is draft recommendation twenty one four. That was a good thing to remind us. So we're kinda floating in the 15 to 10 range. Anyone with strong feelings? 15. Mhmm. 15. Anyone with strong feelings against that? We can keep going and then, of course, come back. We have an x here, I think.

Let's see what that one was. Actually, I don't know why I have an x. So next is

I think that this was one of the ones where we all had the same funding amount. Is that what the x was for?

No. Honestly, I don't remember.

I I Or either.

We have an ex it may just be a mistake, but it was on SNCISD and Greater San Marcos Youth Council. I think it's I don't know. I'm gonna delete it so it's nobody remembers. So let's see. Here we are at sorry. I'm back and forth. Okay. SMCIC school age parenting program follow-up. Some various, Looks like the majority is 15, although Lucy ranked them pretty low, and Linda also has a pink, which for her means zero. And so there's some some discrepancy there.

Ethan, do you wanna talk about what you were thinking?

For this one, I do think just kind of in general looking at my numbers in hindsight, I think I was grading a little bit harshly when it came to funding, maybe because I didn't mark, exactly how I wanted to. But, this is a great program. I really appreciate this one. I think just compared to, like, how I was scoring, everything else was scored a little bit higher on my end, which is why I ended up funding that one a little bit less.

And 15 is their requested or their minimum?

Oh, I'm sorry. That's the request. Requested. Requested.

Minimum is 7,500.

I would work for

the program. They're the only program that I know that helps teenagers and not just while they're in school, but also beyond when they graduate.

Also do that.

Yeah. I'm good with that. Alright. 15 it is. And we have

Yeah. Big one.

Big one. Oh, BR three t. So this is housing stability services, and I believe that was for y'all are more familiar with it than I am rent, I think. Maybe also utilities. I would say I have personally worked with VR threeT with other funding sources, and they do a really good job with the funding that they have. Like, they're they have a real system in place. I probably shouldn't advocate for them, but they're in case you wonder, they do a good job with their funding. They track it very well and so forth. We kind of are all over the board. Sherif, do you wanna talk about this one?

So that one, we we haven't funded before from this board, so I was wondering what their why they never approached us for that.

So so they have had they had a lot of ARPA funding and a lot of CDBG coronavirus. And so now that is all gone.

Yeah. What do we have for the total?

$5.78. $1.01 $71. Yeah. They also had state and county funding.

35 would be okay with me.

Yeah. It's kind of an average.

I've completely broken my mental barrier with sticking to minimum funds. Cool. Thrown that personal value out the window.

So what do y'all think of 35? That's kind of a midrange. I don't I don't know why either.

Mine did that too. Oh, because the x was

Okay. Hearing no other comments?

No objection from online? Nope.

We'll keep going.

No. I can't. Wait. There you go. Okay.

Let's see. This is children's shelter. Greater San Marcos Youth Council, specifically their children's shelter. Pretty nice scores across the board and also everybody with Yahtzee thinking I think the lowest score. On low too. So does anyone wanna like, we could either talk about the high I keep picking on the the people who scored it lower, but we can go either way. Like Do have any dots on that one?

I don't remember why I scored them low. Remember my notes, please. I'm looking at my notes to remember why I scored them.

It's yeah. I can't imagine keeping up with it all. You didn't send them to me. Right?

For my notes? Uh-huh. No. No? Okay.

I can't pull them up.

Many applications do they have?

Which one

is this one? This is oh, shoot. I don't know why. It's in my ability to okay. Here we go. Greater San Marcos Youth Council. I think they have two. Right? Does that sound right? Two?

Oh, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. And so this is so we've looked at their family success program, and now this is specifically for the children.

How much do they need to be set aside for a face?

So 15,000. They had asked for

Looks like almost everything.

Yeah. It's kinda it's, like, 4 plus. Oh, yeah.

I think I rated it low because so many of the people who go to alright. They serve so many Hays County kids and not a lot of San Marcos kids. Mhmm. That's right.

It. Any thoughts on that from others?

I mean, last year, gave them 10. And the year before that, 50. So we could split the difference to go 12, like the average.

12 also happens to be their minimum Yeah.

West. What do y'all think about that? Any strong feelings on the other end, like, the fifteens online?

I scored them as, as 15, but I'm okay with 12 seeing as that was their stated minimum, and it's not, like, a huge discrepancy. So I would be okay with that.

I agree.

Okay. Thanks. Next, we have Los Altros La Gente, their community assistance program. So they have one for coats and shoes, and they also have an sort of an emergency assistance program. You can see the scores and the money. They were asking for 10 with five as a minimum.

I'm okay with the minimum of five. I know I I rated them high because their application was good, but, you know, I feel like they're still kind of getting the hang of this program.

Sherif, I think you're the highest one. Do you wanna talk about what you were talking?

Which one was

the No. Social Security. Community assistance. Yeah.

Not the coats and thing?

No. Already did coats and shoes. I'm tired of scrolling all the way back. Coats and shoes. Requested 10. Draft funding You could put eight. Is 8, which was minimum. And so here we are at no sotrosylant day. Five is their minimum, and then I'll get it where you can see everything. So I'm kind of interpreting.

It seems like everyone wanted to give them something even the lower scores. It looks like the average is six eight. Would

would much rather go with five than give them the full 10 of times.

Give them the 10 on cuts and shoes. Yeah. We're hearing a no from Yancey. It's a little quiet. I'm just Yeah.

I I'm kind of for five. I mean, it we're not talking a huge difference here.

See, to me, this one, we didn't fund it at all last year. And going from 0 to 5,000, it's the reservation I have with that. And that's why I like the the Coach one because, like you said, they're used to learning that one already. Mhmm. So they have all partnerships and everything. But it's

yeah.

I'm I'm okay with that.

Okay.

Yeah. So I you wanna

that comment that you said or just not, did you wanna give them less then because they don't have this much experience running this program? No. He wanted to give them more.

To the codes and then less for this one. So yeah.

Okay. To be decided was our note on this one. Hill Country Yeah. HMR. So that's y'all discussed a little bit. Youth crisis respite center programming. Their ask was 180. 125. Now 125. Average, 63. Sharif, you were you know? I'm strong. You're bringing down the average, but, also, this one's 90, so y'all are eating each other out. So we've got some mid sixties maybe.

How much funding do we have left?

0, 119 at this point. Yancey, it seems like you felt pretty strongly. I mean, I I realized, like, all of y'all, I think, have said this is their ask is a lot, but you've got They're

they're separate entities, but it seems that one cannot run without the other. Right? Mhmm. Because they are outsourcing their services. So I just feel that we at least need to fund them something because they're just gonna have a building and not the services. You know?

I disagree with that because we funded last year. We didn't have to fund this now.

Well, because they didn't ask for that last year.

Yes.

They weren't asking to fund the services part last year. They were asking to fund the facilities last year. How

many will we have left to fund after this one? Because my concern isn't necessarily funding them. Like, I'm I I would want to fund them as well. I'm just wanting to make sure that we don't also run out of funding for something else down the list that we'd like to.

I have these. They are asking for a total of 63 in the next five. So there's five left to fund

But a

couple or to talk about, not to fund. Mhmm.

Yeah. A couple of those when I get Right?

Say that again.

A a few of those when I get

a a fund fund down. Well, the bottom one, for sure, we put a zero here. And then this one, it just says some funding. Was a rough draft.

Rough draft.

And then we can you know, I would mention y'all are at the moment, you're funding everyone Mhmm. Something, which it it is up to the board's discretion, and I can definitely let the council know you talked about each one and consider carefully. You know, it wasn't like you just did percentages across the board. It really is up

to you. My number would be 50.

Okay. That's

a that's a compromised number. I would do 60.

50. What

say the online members?

Yep. Anything from online?

Yeah. I'm kind of with, along the same lines of thinking as Ethan. If maybe we can since there's, like, no way, really, it looks like, like, wherever we're, like, we're gonna meet their minimum. If we can finish up, like, the rest and see because I would I would prefer to be able to fund as many programs, like, in entirety as possible and then kinda see where, what we're left with for for them. And then also to Yance's point, I do think it is important that, you know, if we are funding Shybe, like, the physical building that we do need need to fund Hill Country on top of the fact, like I mentioned last meeting, that mental health is just a a really a really big need in the community.

So would you like us to skip this for now and hit the other smaller ones that are on the list and then come back and at least when we look at what total we have left?

I would prefer that. Yes.

Seems okay.

Seems fine to me.

Yep. Okay. In general agreement? Okay. We are moving on.

It's just it's just on a delay. It's it's grumpy.

You don't like grumpy. I'm grumpy. Okay. Now oh, we Synacor. Oh, wait. Synacor has funding, so we're going down another one. Bobcat profit stabilization fund. So you can see the range here. They were requesting 10, asking for seven as a minimum. Looks like average is about $8.04 with some lower scores here that would bring it down, I think.

I see this every year, but I'm for the full amount because they're the only organization that directly helps people who are in the LGBT community.

Other Sorry.

Go ahead.

Yeah. I I'm for the full amount also because I I feel like what we've heard from other, like, food partners, and I just know this also from my work, is that a lot of students, right now are needing a lot of support. Like, especially, like, with, like, the food banks and stuff, like, they're they're seeing such an increase in the student student use. And so because this is who they target, I think it's really important for that age demographic.

Any other thoughts?

Sherry, you went 10 on this. Yeah. Looks like we're more than 10. Okay.

And I do have Elias' notes up if y'all need to see, though, if I can look. Okay. Here we go. San Marcos Youth Services Bureau team network. They were asking for 30 or a minimum of 22. We have a couple of fully funding and then some really some twenties and some nothing. So how are we thinking?

I think so the reason I was low on this is not that I I think it's, like, a bad program, but it they kinda do just feel good activities with teens and after school active and summer programming. And while I think that's, like, a good thing to have, I don't think it's as vital as the other programs that are focusing on immediate needs. So I would tend towards the minimum on this, if not even lower to 20. But I would be fine with the minimum too. I

kind of have the same feelings around it as Lucy does. I would be comfortable with more than zero, probably, like, 15 or 20 to 22, something like that.

I would go with 15.

Are you going with 15?

Yeah. Because that would be a significant increase from the average for the past three, four years. I mean, one year, we gave 25, but that's because I don't think we had a lot left over. Last year, we we allocated 10,000. 30,000, that's three times as much. And to piggyback on Lucy's comments, I mean, the amount of teams that they serve is not as great as some of other organizations that we have. So

I would go for Okay. Any other thoughts? You think 15, Yahtzee? Is that okay?

Yeah. I think it was 15.

Alright. Next up, we have lifelong learning.

So their lifelong learning program.

Lot of zeros.

Lot of zeros. Couple of nine fives. Alisa or Yancey, do you wanna talk about why you wanna give them the their ask?

They're the only organization that is specifically for adult learning that I know of at this time. And I think learning at any age is important. I don't think we ever stop learning. So, like and I think especially for the age demographic that they target is even more so important because there's really no other that I know of at least sources or organizations or efforts out there being put to target this demographic specifically for.

Any other thoughts that

Yeah. I I feel the same way also just in general and compared to other orgs. It's not a tremendous amount of funding. Even at their minimum, I would be good with that, the the 8,500. And I feel like also they are mainly volunteer run, So all of this is, like, direct main mainly for, like, direct service, not not a lot of other types of overhead or, like, staff costs.

So I feel for our aging population here in the city, like, that's a it's a good bang for your buck, I feel like.

I will say that I'm pretty sure that some of that money is gonna go towards paying their new director. Yes. Because the woman who was spearheading it is retired. Yes.

But but. I'll

say I agree with everything you guys said. I think I'm willing to change my thing off of zero. The only thing I think that led me to score solo is it was my understanding that there was kind of, like, a sign up fee for members or, like, a membership fee or something like that. And then also that some of their classes were ones that you had to, like, pay in order to get into and stuff like that. So I think that was just one of the things that made me score them a little bit lower.

But member?

By the same token, that shows that they're trying to increase their funding from other sources. We should be We're trying to keep this at the organization going that way.

I'd be okay with the minimum of 8,500. Not that there's much difference. Just philosophically, this is one of those programs that's good to have but not essential to have. So 85 is where I'd be at.

So kinda looking across the board. Is everyone pretty comfortable with that? No. Any discussion?

Go ahead with 85.

Okay. That's what I was wondering about a submission. Now we are angels for elders. They have a yellow.

Oh, yeah. This is the one

that Linda scored at 75.

I wrote down bad presentation. Most of the board lives in New Braunfels, But they do serve Hispanic community in the La Victoria neighborhood.

For this one, I think my justification was kind of the risk associated with it mainly. That's why I decided to score them low. Knowing that we are we have 85 left in the funding, I mean, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to giving them some, like like Yancey's number of 2,500. It doesn't seem like the worst to me, but I'm also you know, my original number was zero, and it was mainly because of the risk associated with this organization.

So I would say Yancey, I

mean What?

You're the only person who gave money. So what what was your thinking on that?

I've been around the neighborhoods where they, you know, like, La Victoria that they're trying to expand onto Isquadeloopa side. Like, I've been to the neighborhoods, and I like, the houses, right, are so old, and it's just an elderly population. And I think, again, there is a need in this town to care for our elders, and there are some organizations who do that already. But for, you know, accessibility reasons, maybe some people might not either know about them or be able to get there. And so they go door door to door, and I think that's very important to do that, like, super direct outreach.

I I did have my reservations. Like, Lucy, you know, the board. It's from New Braunfels. Like, they're originally from here. They live in New Braunfels now. I remember asking them if they were gonna have any board members who live here and down. They're I guess they're not there yet. And I was also kind of concerned about their office location. Mhmm. It didn't seem like it was an office, question mark.

And it's in the ETK, I think, too.

Yeah. But, you know, agreeing with Ethan that there is some risk associated with it. So I wanted to give them a little bit of funding because they're they're trying to expand their average into a community that might not necessarily be average to already or what? That makes sense. Any other thoughts?

Yeah. Have there been any that we get enough from?

They're legal aid. We have a zero. That was the Texas Rio Grande legal aid. They were asking for 200 or a minimum of 100. Yeah. I have the discussion notes there that were

Oh, yeah. I remember that. Okay.

So, yeah, so, like, I'm I have to remember to take notes because then if I get counsel questions, I just try to tell them what the board said. You

know? Yes. And I think what also got me was they're trying to be, like, culturally appropriate for this for the people that they're trying to outreach to. And just, like, personally, I grew up with those traditions that they had mentioned, and I can imagine, you know well, I can't really because I'm not serious. But, like, as you grow older, right, maybe needing, like, to be connected again to your culture and being connected to people as well.

I'm okay throwing them a little something.

Any other discussion from the folks online, Ethan or Lisa?

Me me pull their presentation. Okay.

Does the does either 2,500 or 3,500, I know that's below their minimum, but that's kind of half of what their ask was, Sound do either of those numbers sound agreeable to everybody?

For 25. K.

Yeah. I'm I'm good with that. I mean, I really love the the history behind it and what they're trying to do. Just gives me some pause because of the five zero one c three status and that risk. But, yeah, I'm good with that.

And, Carol, just, to clarify, for most of these funds, they'll be released as, like, reimbursements. Correct?

Correct. Yeah. So that does, you know, ameliorate some risk.

I'm good with 2,500 then.

K.

Okay. We've got the general consensus. So then the next one is a rough draft, part of the y'all have talked about it a little bit and just said some funding.

Because we're gonna do it zero, and then there was a couple

Maybe there's some questions about

should we, like, should we discuss it? Mhmm. So

I was gonna Lisa, do you wanna talk? I'm sorry. I'm talking.

No. No. No. Sorry. I was talking over you.

I don't know which one. I think it was me. Alisa, do you wanna talk about this one? We're gonna see y'all are the two proponents, it looks like. Yeah.

I'll just say, again, mental health is a big deal. And while I know it was kinda mentioned, like, you know, it's just like these little art kits or whatever, again, I've also seen how mental health kits can be extremely helpful for people, especially in times of crisis, and it's it's, you know, something that's really accessible. The fact that they've already have, like, a plan and of where they're gonna do this at Art Squared, you know, seems like a feasible program to to implement. I know that it's new, but, again, you know, you gotta start somewhere. So I'm always a, like, a proponent for grassroots efforts.

So that is my reasoning.

I think last time I said that it's oh, I don't know what place it was there. Something about prevention and flexibility. Carol, what's the minimum?

$4,500.

I will also add that I was really impressed too just, like, with their background and them teaching in, like, the jails and things like that. Like, I feel like they have, you know, the education and expertise and things like that to to pull this off.

Because it's not a lot and we have money in the bank, I'm okay with doing 4,500. Again, I think this is a good thing to do, not a necessary thing to do, but I I mean, they do have a a plan that they seem like they're ready to execute as you point out. So I'm okay with 4,500.

Sure. Even Ethan Ethan.

I would also be okay with 4,500. Okay.

So now let's see. Should we go back to Yes.

Bill Country. Bill Country.

I have in the oh, sorry. Yes. Yeah. So high and low and then in the mid sixties. We have $78.06 available. I do know you know, I'm trying to be a balanced proponent or whatever that y'all were kinda wanting to look at the whole thing again after you Mhmm. Decide. And so, you know, you may wanna flex, but we can always also just f FYI, of course, we can always move money around and so forth over. I don't I don't

know if I'm comfortable giving them the 7,600. I would rather give them 50 or 60 and then spread the rest around to other groups where we haven't given them the minimum yet.

I would agree with that, and I think the number I would prefer for this organization would be 60.

I don't know who would be 40. Because I really like, looking at their presentation or their their packet, only one person there and their board is is in San Marcos. Everybody else is all across the Hill Country, Johnson Mhmm. Johnson City.

Well, it's a huge org I mean, it's a big organization that runs through multiple sites.

They

just also run this place.

Yeah. I think it's counties or something like that, and they they do incredible work from what I have seen.

Yeah.

So the one thing everybody keeps saying, you know, they're separate from tribe and this totally separate organization. They never did clarify what the actual business relationship is. So to Yance's point, they're gonna be

Yeah. They did. Yeah. They Shive owns the facilities.

Yeah. And they provide services.

They and they, Help Country leases those facilities.

Yeah. So, again, my question is with as far as their business relationship, why is it that they've been asking money before? Because I'm looking at last year's, funding. Actually, the last five, six years. We only gave them 20,000 back in 2023, I think it was. And that was for a mobile crisis average team. So to go from zero to 40,000 when we're already giving Shyb another 40,000, that's $80,000 out of $750,000 budget. I'm strongly against that because that's

I mean, if you wanna provide that logic, then let's go back and look at all the other organizations who apply two, three times and see how much they're getting.

Yeah. Or orgs that are getting that have historically gotten funded every year, every time they apply. But what I would also add is I and I'm assuming here, but just like many, many organizations, at this time, the ARPA funding is ended. All of this emergency assistance that was during COVID that were covering a lot of things. And I know y'all said that it was shut down at COVID, but I'm sure that they were still doing things, like, as an organization. A lot of orgs are just taking hits right now because because of the funding.

That is true. But, again, my my point still stands that we're going from 0 to $80,000 in one year. We're not guaranteed to have 750,000 every single year. And then a lot of these other organizations that were going minimum or almost none, they've been receiving funding from us for you know, five, six years, the three that I've been here for sure, and they don't go into a drastic zero to 60 in one year. So, again, I'm strongly against giving $80,000 to one set of organizations, and that's and that's at 40,000.

You guys are discussing 60,000. So 60 plus 40, that's a 100,000 at the $750,000 budget. That's bad management of tax tax payer money.

So then, Lucy, you may be another person who could chime in because it seems like I know. You know, we have three in the sixties.

And nine. Arguments always work a little bit of me too.

Because, I mean

Not all of them.

It makes sense

to me.

I I I would be up for 40, and that's, again, that's going to $80,000 to warrant. Last year, for the for the board members that weren't here, we we went back and forth with this one for the same reasons, and that was only for the for the building and facilities. Yeah. And they were only asking for, like, 50,000 back then, I think it was. So, I mean, this is I I like what the organization does, but I feel the money could go better other places, especially with our current

his notes? No. I couldn't break them up. Okay. Let's look at

Elias. Elias. I don't know where to put them.

I had it up. Sorry. I can just get it real quick.

Okay.

Closed it accidentally. Stuck it in this folder. So here's a list. I think they can order out sort.

Yeah. That's way better than mine.

Yeah. Okay. So he's saying

So he was taking notes notes.

Yeah. Yeah. He's like, a lot.

And you show the rest of the meetings in a suit.

Yes. And he must type pretty fast because this is a lot of text. Community need 15, residential stabilization, directly supportive strategic plan goal, state chartered with fund staffing and operations, Operates on a $720,000 budget. City funds cover 25%. So he liked the leverage, it looks like.

Average psychiatric inpatient stay is 12,000. Letters. So you the letters scored high for him as well. And then council priorities that served them at risk. So does that help?

Or ensures continued youth crisis stabilization capacity in San Marcos while calibrating city support to match the program's extensive state and federal funding base.

Yeah. Maintains local service availability. He likes it.

The one thing that I would add to, that I just thought of, when speaking about youth in the past several years, the rates of teen and youth suicides are have risen drastically. And so I'm always going to be a proponent for funding youth mental health services. It's it's pretty it's pretty dire out there right now.

I I I agree with what Alyssa said. I think also just kind of to reiterate a point, it's important to have a abundance of different like, a variety of resources when we're talking about mental health as well, not just, like, one solution or another. And this is a very unique program that we even heard from them doesn't really exist anywhere else between here and San Antonio. So I think I'm still comfortable wanting to fund them at either 50 or 60, preferably 60, just because 40 for me, I know it's not, like, a huge difference, but we are already so far below their minimum that I want them to be able to still succeed with this program as much as possible with how much funding that we give them. And I think the 50 to 60 range still gives us a lot of wiggle room to go to other organizations and readjust their funding to be a little higher if that's what we wanna do.

Need thousand more for other organizations. Mhmm. That's not what I will do.

So what I'm looking at is there's some level one. 18. Yeah. So try to land the plane a little bit. Okay. We have four who are in favor of, it looks like, or more. And then we have three in favor of nothing or lower, like 30 or 40.

I think I'm gonna go within French.

Oh, that's fine. But And

it's already has spoken. So are we look 60. Is the ending? Okay. Okay. Now my question is, I can show you the numbers however you'd like. Like, do you wanna see highest to lowest? Do you wanna see percentage of amount requested? We can do Excel tricks like that.

Can we scroll up to the top? Can do the grayish yellow.

So we could do I think they're actually still sorted.

Oh, yeah. Can you condense so we can just Oh, yeah. Condensed trick where you hide.

What do you wanna hide? The support.

You hide r through Keep going. There we go.

K. So here we are at

Thank you for knowing without me articulating all what I wanted.

I understood. I didn't make it smaller because I I thought that's what she was asking, but we can go back up if we need to. Please. Oh, got it. Thank you.

There we go. Okay.

So then we have and I'm happy to, you know, add a column and or sort however y'all want.

Okay. Enter. Can you highlight the rec funding as some other

cohort? Oh, yeah.

Wait. Or, yeah, the draft rec, so I'm not confusing it with the average.

So let's do requested as blue. And then this one can be green. Okay. Because that means the

okay. We could throw in another five to the he is called the women's center.

Which one?

Number nine or yes. That one. So that was highly rated. Requested 25.

I'll be comfortable with that.

For the sake of discussion. Is everybody else maybe I'm not able to see everyone. Okay?

Can you highlight that one in yellow?

Do you need them bigger?

No. It's just the screen colors. I can see better over there. Sherry, we've been picking on you. You wanna you have one that you want us to put more money in?

No. I'm I'm I'm good.

Oh, great. See?

No. I'm good. The politician.

No. No. No.

You have $13.06.

I think the only well, at the next request that I see that's highest rated that we didn't fund to the minimum is the other Hays Caldwell Women's Center, number 11.

Any thoughts?

Bump it to 25.

I'm okay with that.

Yellow? I don't know.

Yeah. If you can highlight that in yellow so we can remember what we've done. How much is HCWC getting now?

They have 3. So $50.83. They requested a 100. Scroll. I lost. And that's why I was like, if you want me to show things like, I don't know, percentage of ask or sort by who's getting the most or whatever. It's doable. Or difference between ask and It

really is crazy how much a difference bumping it up to $7.50 made that I feel like we're having to cut a lot less.

It really is. Yeah. That's true. And then last year, I think y'all had 38 applications, and this year, it's 32. Okay. But, yeah, it does feel more a little more comfortable then. Thoughts. I'm gonna go down. Oh, that was it.

How much is left, Carol? The

86 That's it.

Are there any smaller ones, I guess, that we didn't hit the minimum?

Can you freeze that? The

top row?

Or Yeah. The one under number five. Yep. 5.

No. No.

No. We need the top. We need number five. Yeah. Nice. Yay.

Okay. And I'm sorry. Let's see. You were asking about smaller. I was trying to it seemed like some of them were down here. So

Can you get rid of the average recommendation funding? Mhmm. Which ones were the ones that were funded at funded at max? Can you do that?

Think it's just the top four.

Just the top four?

Actually, I think more, actually. Let's do oh, I'm in the middle. Hang on. It's gonna be great. Okay.

Oh, I love that.

Okay. Sorry. I started it too. Okay. So then I can sort I just like to have a title and just sort on

This amazing Excel skills. I fell in there. Oh, really? Oh, just Have never.

I'm criticizing myself for being slow, so just I'm sorry. What are we on? You

you're a rock star, Carol.

Right. Okay. No. I didn't. Pressure. Pressure. I'm sorry, y'all. I'm doing a terrible job. You're actually You're doing great.

Jill. You're doing great.

Blowing my mind, Carol.

Oh my gosh. If y'all ever need Excel help,

just call me.

I'm taking notes right now as we speak.

Oh, y'all are so fine. Sorry. I am going to sort by largest to smallest. Okay. So these all got a 100% of their request. Mhmm. And then it goes down from there.

Okay. Can we find the ones that are a 100%? Mhmm.

Okay. So then we have maybe I can make it tell me if it's bad, but that that's your whole lips. That's it? Mhmm. Yeah.

And then What's

that?

Well, it didn't sort out.

That's the that's the. The one I'm.

Is that just the That's the totals? Totals, but now it's only totaling a certain amount. It's messed it's messed up. Oh, because I hid the rest. So, anyway That's okay. Yeah. We're okay. Okay. Yeah. But okay. So, anyway, there's your whole list.

Which ones do I really like? My god. My favorite ones are all, like, Shive Center, but I'm not getting them more.

I mean, it's all like

Should we you know what? You know what? I say we give we go full funding for shoes and coats for Nocotros La Gente.

That's gonna take us splurge. Yeah. Big

spending. Full funding. Let

me know if y'all disagree. I'm just putting it in there.

And now we have

About 6,600, I think. Yeah.

I don't know about that.

You wanna talk it through?

I mean, I'm still just not impressed, I guess, with their funding capabilities. Like I said in past meetings, it feels like they're really dependent on city funding.

We just gave $60,000 to no country that's depending on mostly on us.

Well, it's kids need shoes. I I agree.

Thousand 900 year.

I agree. I just feel like I've heard the same spiel every year about Yeah. The fundraising, that they have all these ideas to fundraise, but they it just seems that they haven't really put any effort towards fundraising.

Worked on it. Yeah.

Any other thought? Everybody else seems silent, so we'll keep keep it. We're making it I mean,

you make a good point.

Yeah. I mean, keep it at eight, but we can

go to the children's shelter and the user success. Because I actually have had interactions with some people that use their services.

So maybe bump them up inside a little bit.

Okay. There's none none other place. Started?

I think about 6,600. Sorry. My tally's left when I hid the rows so far. It's already. Let's see if I can help spur thinking.

I mean,

the family violence and transitional housing could probably use quite a bit more. Yeah. Oh.

They're askingfor.com each each.

Uh-huh. Mhmm. And we've already given them what was it? 83?

83 out of a 100 requested. And then we have, like, Synacor. I know y'all talked about mental health. That sounds like it too. You know, Synacor mental health. Nobody nobody's going back to Synacor. Youth recovery community is a specific program. Then we have, like I'm just trying to see what else. I mean,

we don't

have to spend

the last 6 to

600.

The teen network, line 35. Was that the after school and summer programs that y'all were talking about earlier?

Yeah. Yeah. I should also note where are my notes for that? Oh, yeah. Samarcus Tea Network. Last year, 20 kids applies, but they had to turn away 10. So they're only serving 10 kids.

Wow.

That being said The planning issue? The those services for the they're, like, there's tons of programming, social skills, lessons, one on one attention. And they do have year round programming that's, like, 25 kids during the summer when they have the year round programming is five to eight kids usually and then 25 kids during the summer is what they said.

They're Yeah.

Yeah. I

mean, 15 is more than.

I feel like sometimes there's five to eight teenagers in my house at any given time.

So maybe you're driving. What What else? I do see, like, I was just trying to look at maybe categories. Here's mental health, and we've got emergency assistance, various programs.

With with all the stuff that's going on, I think emergency assistance is gonna be a big imperative. But by the same token, the South Side weren't they're only 50 here, and then they got 800 more. So

So you have, like, rent,

So before we put money on your. Mhmm. The 10, if you already know?

No.

No. I wanna hear from Alyssa and Ethan, I guess. What do they think? Yeah.

I am honestly comfortable going either way. They said 8,000 would be enough for them to run the program. And so I think that's you know, I mean, if that's the minimum that they can use to run the program, I'm fine giving them that. I do also think that it's completely possible that costs rise between now and when they actually use the funding to buy shoes and stuff like that. So I think that there's maybe a a reason to increase it to 10,000 just with that as a concern, but that's also pure speculation on my part. So

Yeah. I don't think about that. Yeah.

That's a speculation. Alyssa, anything?

I I mean, I would I think I'm okay either way. Although, yeah, the the minimum, I'd probably be more comfortable with. I think I'm just going back to, like, the couple that we didn't hit their minimum that we didn't hit the minimum that we, like, feasibly could with this the the pot that's left over.

That's like angels for our elders, hill country. I was trying to see who didn't we hit the minimum. Greater San Marcus Youth Council.

The v r v r three t.

V r three t. Oh, and this one? Yeah. Four? For the How's your stability. I'd

rather put that money on VR three t.

So maybe so 8,000 here, and

then Yeah. That's pretty general.

And then so we can add the 2,000. I think we have, right, about still 6,000 left. Restored or something to get that.

I mean, I would love to just throw that at the food bank because of They're already But they're already fully funded.

Yes. Mhmm. So you're thinking in terms of emergency assistant. This Yeah. You know, that's b r 3 t is a little bit in that category, and then we have at their minimum, but, you know, that's another emergency assistance just to bring it

up since you're

talking through it.

My teenager is asking for money on her credit card. So

I'm glad it's hard. If she gets them, I get them.

What about the child protective order up to full funding 25?

You talking about that?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm okay with it.

I'd be good with that.

Should we see where we are? I feel like I Yeah.

This is usually a lifelong learning too.

Yeah. I really am slow like a fester. Okay. So then okay.

Here we go.

For $7.45 9. Yep. Yeah. Got 4,000 to spend.

Let's make

sure that's adding everybody. Yeah. 70. Okay. So

Guess we could give it to Legal Aid.

You know, $4,000? Yeah. Welcome to San Marcos. No.

I feel like that would that might come off as an insult.

I think it would. Yeah.

Matter of fact.

So once again, I'll hide these guys just so you can see the whole list. But now we know we have 4,000.

Oh,

and this is also in. So this is the full

list. Right? Yeah. You said lifelong learning, Sherry? Yeah. I mean,

9,500 is 70,000. But yeah. Any thoughts? Yes? Yes. Okay.

How do weigh, Carol? Oh, they're at a hundred.

Still got thirty one hundred. We could give 2,002 ounces of way. But

For shoes. For their emergency program.

Oh, you're still not seriously, that was he's bringing it up like it's a new idea.

Yes. I'm totally kidding about that one. I I actually

I'd rather

I think we'll figure it them enough,

because that's 13,000 less you'll get it done.

Okay. No. 15.

Let me see where people are.

Oh, the shelter. Which one?

Hill Country. I mean, the HCWC is not at their minimum. If you're looking at who Oh, the county?

Yeah. What about the Greater San Marcos Children's Shelter?

Yeah. That's what I was saying. Yeah.

Oh, up here.

Yeah. Because they're they're members or their max is 15.

Because that would put us at if we get it if we went to 15, then that would put us at our number.

Basically. Yeah.

Yeah. What do y'all think? A 100 goes into Carol's pocket. Never. So not worth losing money. Maybe a.

That's funny. Okay. 100

I was just gonna say give 100 more to angles for our elders.

Yeah. Sure.

What I was say. Okay.

Okay. Done. Let's look at where we stand here. Boom. I'll unhide everybody. Texas. And then yeah.

How come anybody Carol, any idea why it said the Salvation Army didn't ask for anything?

I don't know. Ain't that interesting? Yeah.

I I just don't know. I mean, they fought tooth and nail. We gave them only 10, and now we've had a ton of them.

Yeah. And then I don't know. The council did their thing.

Yeah. They moved it around to get funding. And then yeah. And then

Yeah. Technically, meeting.

Yeah. Counseling. I mean, I know

we Maybe they didn't want the drama between counsel.

Yeah. Maybe. And then I know for sure they got the notice. Like, they're on our list, of course. But okay, so let's see. We could sort by percent of funding. Oh, shoot. Sorry.

I actually think if we wanted to entertain emotion, this would be a good time to do it. What? Okay. Entertain a motion.

Motion to approve. Yeah. I'm I'm not saying it. I'm just saying that's what she's

talking about.