Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

all right good evening this is chair Justin kolie and I would like to call this regular meeting of the Planning Commission to order please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance would Deputy city clerk Megan Wilbanks please call roll commissioner Flores is absent at this time commissioner Jorgenson here commissioner Khan here commissioner Muno Morris will be absent tonight commissioner tly here Vice chair hton here chair here all right uh now we are at public on our agenda we are at public comment for items n on the agenda at this time we will hear any public comment for items not on tonight's agenda items raised are generally referred to staff and if action by the commission is necessary may be scheduled for a future meeting Deputy city clerk do we have any public comment thank you chair I haven't received any request to speak however I see some folks in the audience so if you wanted to speak at this time please let me know okay was it on non-agenda comment or on the public hearing item was your comment or or not agenda items or on theenda I'm not even sure I'm in the right spot okay well if you wouldn't mind fill out the little yellow sheet there and that'll give me an idea of when to call on you we'll hang on just a second until we have a chance to review where he intends to speak

that's normally it says your name when you're did or something all right thank you sir you'll have three minutes three minutes okay should take about 30 seconds because I'm not even sure I'm in the right spot I think I am um I have a question like if you're new to the community and you came in and you were looking at buying a house over by pully for example and it's all zoned R1 but there's a few empty lots around you you buy the house how do you know the zoning Integrity stays the same on the R1 lots and you don't end up with condos built next to you might be a question we would I don't know if staff has any comments on that or would like to you know encourage him to make an appointment at another time or something like that yeah I can give you my um business card and I can have a chat with you if you'd like um if you want to give me a call or send me an email well isn't it more of a political issue than just technical issue well the the zoning regulations the zoning map um is what it is unless it's amended either by the city or by individuals that come forward with a proposal to change zoning regulations or or the map so you guys would be the ones that would change the zoning though right it's the city council with a recommendation from the the Planning Commission yes it doesn't happen very easily and say

that okay okay thanks all right thank you sir and I'm not seeing anyone else rushing up to speak for non-agenda public comment all right so I'm going to close that public comment that takes us to consent and the item on our consent agenda is consideration of minutes from our February 26 2025 Planning Commission meeting uh before we vote do any Commissioners have any comments on consent and the minutes I'm going to abstain because I was absent all right any other comments do I have a motion and a second to approve consent I'll move to approve I'll second we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I all opposed say no all right that takes us to our public hearing any Court challenge to the action taken on public hearing items on this agenda may be limited to considering only those items me those issues raised at the public hearing or in written correspondence delivered to the city of San Louis abiso at or prior to the public hearing if you wish to speak please give your name and address for the record please limit your comments to three minutes the public hearing item before us is to receive the 2024 General plan annual report would assistant planner Ethan Estrada please present the staff report all right good evening Commissioners again my name is Ethan Estrada and tonight I will be presenting the 2024 General plan annual report before I begin i' just like to apologize I'm getting over a cold so I may have to take a second to get some water every so often uh during this presentation so thank

you so staff's recommendation tonight is for your commission to receive and file the 2024 General plan annual report for final review and acceptance by the city council state law requires each city and county to adopt a general plan consisting of multiple elements at minimum seven the city of Stan Louis Abo's General plan consists of eight elements covering a range of topics such as land use climate adaptation and safety housing and more overall the general plan is a comprehensive statement of the city's goals and it guides the use and protection of various resources to achieve them it is a living document that is periodically amended by the city council who consider recommendations made by citizens appointed advisory bodies other agencies and City staff the California government code and the city's land use element require an annual report be made on the status of the general plan this report provides an opportunity for the city to gauge the efficacy of both the actions taken to implement the general plan and the plan's policies themselves so with that let's go over some highlights from the report as requ required by land use element policy 11.3 staff is to provide a summary of private development activity in the city the Community Development Department tracks application totals in real time via its intergov permitting system providing insight into development Trends in the city in 2024 total of 264 planning applications were received this includes use permits development review subdivisions and more comparing what the city received over the last two years this number is increasing which at this time is attributed to an increase in ction request requiring director review in 2024 a total of 574 building permits were issued which included permits for a net total of 442 residential units accounting for demolitions that occurred the 442 units

consisted of 119 single family units 96 accessory dwelling units and 234 multif family units land use element policy 1.11 .2 states that the city's housing Supply shall grow no faster than 1% per year on the average based on the estimated population growth outlined in table three of the land use element affordable units new units within the downtown core and accessory dwelling units are exempt from these regulations in 2024 excluding the units exempt 342 units were added to the city's housing stock with this addition total of 23748 units are subject to this growth management policy accounting for this addition to the housing stock between the years of 2015 and 2024 the city has maintained an average annual growth rate of 1.03% exceeding the 1% growth threshold for residential units per existing regulations there is no action required to address the residential growth rate exceeding this threshold the city council could choose to establish limitations on new residential development through phasing of specific plans in annexation areas as Allowed by the residential growth management regulations in the city's Municipal Code any direction to consider such limitations would need to be further evaluated to ensure compliance with the housing crisis act which significantly restricts the city's ability to enforce growth and development caps in a manner that impairs the issuance of building permits or the development of housing in areas where housing is otherwise allowed there are narrow exceptions to the statutory restriction on growth caps likely not applicable here and any action to restrict housing permits or develop would need to be reviewed and approved by hcd it's important to remember that over the past several Financial plans the city has prioritized policies and programs to support housing production this trend in residential growth is an

indication that the city's efforts are working regardless given the impending completion of several large housing focused specific plan areas it is anticipated that the average annual residential growth rate could fall back under the 1% threshold within the next few years additionally per state data for 2024 the City's population is at 48684 residents whereas the land use element anticipated a population of approximately 50,000 by 2025 based on a 1% annual population growth rate land use element policy 1.11.4 requires the city to evaluate increases to non-residential flor area over a period of 5 years should the net growth rate exceed 5% the council shall consider implementing limits on new non-residential floor area in 2024 713864 area was added to the city this placed the annual growth rate for 2024 at 6% and the 5-year net growth rate at 2.26% well below the 5% threshold staff has continued its efforts to implement various housing element programs that cover a wide range of housing issues and topics Table Six beginning on page eight of the gar lists and discusses the variety of actions taken by staff in 2024 to implement these programs these actions primarily focused on providing safe housing and Rental protections supporting Housing Solutions and homelessness response the city's sixth cycle housing element period began in January 2019 with the last update to the housing element adopted by Council in November 2020 and certified by hcd in September of of 2021 with this update came the city's Regional Housing needs allocation also known as Reena this Reena allocation is not an obligation of resources but rather is a target for the city to work

towards as displayed in table s on page 12 of the gar the city's Arena allocation for the sixth cycle was placed at 3,354 housing units to plan for in 2024 the city permitted 252 new housing units that count towards the city's Quantified objectives these objectives include the income level categories with remaining units which are currently the extremely low very low low and moderate income levels as of 2024 the city has 1,289 units left of this Arena allocation the city is positioned to add more below market rate units towards its Arena allocation in the coming years there are a total of 474 units in the development process with 247 of these units under construction 205 under building permit review in 22 under planning review for homelessness Solutions 2024 saw city council approve an update to the city's homelessness response strategic plan which sought to align with the County's plan to reduce homelessness by 50% between 2022 and 2027 some other highlights include participating in collaborative efforts to obtain State funding for permanent Supportive Housing the creation of a rotating overnight safe parking pilot program and continued work with the community action team the mobile crisis unit and public Partners such as downtown slow and cap slow in 2024 City staff continued to oversee the development of numerous area and specific plans starting with the margarita area specific plan remaining projects include the pra Business Park and a mixed use project at 365 prto Road additionally the city selected a consultant to prepare an amendment to the margarita area specific plan following an amendment to be made to the airport land use plan for the Orchid area specific plan the retti ranch subdivision is

substantially complete while as of the writing of this report The Enclave at retti tibron place and the Jones mixed use projects are under construction bulock Ranch is under building permit review and PR property is awaiting building permit submittal for the airport area specific plan we have a mix of projects at different stages of the development review process there are several large mixed use projects under review as well as the slow airport hotel a U-Haul personal storage and warehouse and medical offices in 2024 City staff began preparing an amendment to the airport area specific plan to allow mixed use projects on properties within this plan that are zoned commercial service and Manufacturing which is consistent with state law for the a Avala Ranch development plan the single family residences included in phases 1 2 2 and three are still under construction with the remaining units of phase 4 and Phase 5 awaiting building permit submitt development at FR Ranch was on hold throughout 2024 due to ownership changes however City staff recently met with the project developer and anticipate progress to resume in 2025 for the San Louis Ranch specific plan the Spring Hill Suites hotel and various single family residences are under construction in 2024 the city council authorized the submitt of General plan and specific plan amendments for San Louis Ranch specifically pertaining to lot 7 which contains approximately 11 acres of commercially zon land the developer has proposed to develop 276 market rate multif family units in place of the planned 100,000 fot commercial center applications for these amendments are expected to be processed in 2025 in fiscal year 2024 the city collected $10.9 million in transient occupancy tax surpassing fiscal year

2023 which was previously the best performing year in the city's history the city's promotional Coordinating Committee also continued implementing programs such as art toober the cultural arts and Community promotions program and its support local Campaign which included a multi-channel paid advertising plan local public relations social media content strategy and business support for 2024 availability from the city's four water sources equal 10,246 acre feet which exceeds the projected primary water supply need of 7,496 acre feet plus an additional 1,216 acre feet for a reliability reserve and a secondary water supply of 1,534 acre feet additional information is available in the city's annual water supply and demand [Music] assessment in ordance with the circulation element of the general plan 2024 saw a lot of activity in all aspects of transportation and circulation some highlights for vehic vehicular transportation and bicycle and pedestrian Transportation include the city's first Vision zero action plan which is a comprehensive study of current safety Trends in the city the study assists staff with deter with determining priorities in areas of engineering enforcement and education to improve Traffic Safety Citywide the city also saw the completion of the arterials paving project and the north tro Toro neighborhood Greenway project which included the expansion and increased protection of bike and pedestrian paths the installation of or Improvement of numerous curb ramps improve visibility in path lighting and more now looking at slow Transit and Parking Services some 2024 highlights include the purchase of two additional battery electric buses for the city's bus fleet staff anticipates that half of this Fleet will consist of zero emission Vehicles by 2026 staff also reported nearly 576,000

passenger trips in 2024 which is a 12% increase from the previous year additionally slow Transit continued preparing its short-range Transit plan update with adoption anticipated in early 2025 this plan will recommend a host of service fair and program changes for the next 5 years to meet the community's transportation needs now for parking services following a comprehensive study city council approved a parking rate reduction for the downtown area city council also adopted Parking Services technology road map report which recommended various actions for City staff to take such as the digitization of garage permits adopting a single Mobile payment app for on street parking implementation of a standard vendor for new gated systems in all parking garages and more the climate adaptation and safety element of the general plan calls for adequate planning organization and resources for emergency preparedness and emergency response the fire and police departments continued to take steps to protect the City's residents reduce crime and prepare for other potential dangers in alignment with these policies the fire department responded to 7,4 instance in the 20 in 2024 outside of these standard responses the fire department continued operations with its Urban search and rescue team responding to 16 technical rescues and medical emergencies in open space areas in and around the city the fire department also continued operations with its mobile crisis unit primarily responding to behavioral health incidents the MCU team respond responded to 151 calls for service and engaged in 2,998 field contacts the police department completed its first year of its 5-year strategic plan which included a department-wide staffing study implementation of data- driven policing tools establishment of an online recruitment portal and more the police department also continued its operations with its Community Action team who engaged with 471 individuals and issued 197 treatment referrals to

mental health and substance abuse services the police department also continued operations with its Community Service Officer program offering a personalized services to Residents the business community and visitors the general plan contains a host of policies focused on open space protection these policies apply to sensitive lands within the city's Urban Reserve as well as land in the San Louis abiso greenbell area protected for its biological agricultural aesthetic and Watershed protection Value City staff continue to implement these policies through a variety of efforts including restoration work and invasive species control in the miosi open space the FR per perfumo and San Louis abiso creeks and Johnson Ranch staff also completed the first phase of Trail work in the retti hill open space in alignment with the Park and Recreation element of the general plan staff continued to provide programs and services with the focus on youth senior and family programming this included continuation of the recreational Youth and adult sports as well as a variety of other Community programs such as the September scramble park and recreation activities also included open space maintenance such as the new bike park within lagona Lake Park phases one and two of this new park included the mountain bike Loop kids pump track and the two jump lines for both Progressive and advanced levels the city also saw the completion of the North Broad Street neighborhood park which now includes 18 garden plots a playground seating tables walking paths with lighting and more additionally the Chang and Mitchell Park renovations were completed with the installation of a bot ball court upgraded picnic area and more at Mitchell Park and a complete renovation of Chang park with an installation of a meditation Pond full Landscaping upgrades to the Gazebo and More in conclusion this report has shown that the city continues to make substantial progress in implementing the policies outlined in the general plan additionally the data and various

reports provided by City staff indicate that the city has been successful in continuing to promote and achieve devel vment and economic growth Community safety and wellbeing climate adaptation and more with that I conclude my presentation and again uh this is Staff recommendation for your convenience thank you great thank you for the report Commissioners do we have any questions for staff this time go ahead so uh kind of going through in order of your presentation thank you Ethan um this uh 1.03 % um we there's a little bit of time spent in the report about oh it's over 1% and if you round at all then I think it's I mean if we're playing horseshoes here then that's really good right that's amazing I think correct okay so it seems like maybe celebration is in order um especially if you consider that I think the target is an average over the years right yeah and then so then there's some verbiage in there that says well we'll get back below 1% because things are going to slow down so that's the part I was kind of interested in we've had a a whole bunch of housing come in with retti with Avala with St Louis Ranch and so on so is it is it kind of like um I'm thinking of those cartoons where the snake eats something and it moves through the snake are we digesting a whole bunch of Housing and we're we're we're have leaner times ahead is that kind of your view that's staff's opinion at this time yes okay okay I just was that just was um I mean we don't we don't have too many more retes and St Louis ranches and things like that coming along right we do have a lot of projects that have been entitled that have not moved

through the building permit process yeah as of yet um so I think what we're seeing is a lot of the larger expansion areas are either most of the way complete or complete uh but there are thousands of units that are entitled in different areas of the city that have not pulled building permits to start construction and so those are still several years out um so I think we're in a kind of hit a peak and we might start to see a little bit of a uh a valley and then there's another one coming in a few years probably okay that makes sense and it seems like we're on a nice uh Pace the way that expand because we do want more housing we've talked about that a lot and it seems like the rate at which it's been coming along has been pretty uh pretty good so um there was a mention of 50% homelessness reduction by 2027 how are we doing on that from what to what I mean I remember asking early on when I got here how many homeless people are there in San Louis abiso and you guys had an answer it was like 400 62 or something and um so can you put a number or two to that sure a moment to pull up the county but that is referring to the County's goal so the countywide goal was to reduce um homelessness countywide by 50% in their fiveyear strategic plan so again we're in near 25 and it goes until 27 um so the county has provided an update to the Board of Supervisors I believe last spring on their progress to date um I believe and I was going to pull up the last pit count number um there was a reduction in the unhoused or an unsheltered count um countywide well we did see an increase in the city but the countywide numbers did go down for

unsheltered homelessness and the sheltered number went up um those are the two numbers that are counted in each um kind of biannual piit count so they are there's a lot of kind of fact that go into into that I think it's constantly in flux um so I don't at the top of my head actually Teresa's maybe assisting me here um looks like in 2015 the um unsheltered count was what 1123 and in 24 that unsheltered County right countywide the unsheltered number was at 800 um so it is a a decrease you know over 300 um over that time but it's obviously fluctuated between 2015 and 2024 so hard to tell where that number will land in 27 um when that's kind of the conclusion of their 5year plan they will then be doing um an update to that with a new Five-Year Plan the city's homelessness response strategic plan we've tried to align with the countywide plan um and our current plan is a two-year and two-year increments but we are planning to um extend that to be a three to five year plan to better align with the county um so our numbers likewise have fluctuated over the last few years it's a hard um number it's not static there's you know kind of a constant inflow and and outflow of people experiencing homelessness but we have seen a lot of you know good growth in terms of the sheltered count and that increasing and then we do have several permanent Supportive Housing projects that have come online in the last few years and that are opening so the city partnered with people self-help housing on the Motel 6 North project which is the kaien home key and that'll be 75 new permanent Supportive Housing units and then partnering with the county on the welcome home Village which is going to be um 14 interim and 40 permanent supportive so it's kind of looking at at all of those projects that we have in

the pipeline and hoping that we see you know a positive trend on the piit count okay great yeah we see this a lot and the things that come through this commission and so I was kind of curious where what's the overall all Trend like and um so positive trend I'd say yeah it seems like it yeah so we could talk forever for on that so I'll move on um and then Ethan you mentioned that St Louis Ranch there was a substitution happening something was being substituted for 100,000 square feet of commercial space and that is uh a proposal that's going to come before us before too long can you just say a little bit about what that is so that was a project where the applicant was looking at a site uh that was zone is Zone commercial and was looking at um changing the land use uh for the site to include mostly residential we're talking about the whole area of St Louis Ranch right off the freeway there it's off the it's off the corner of delido and as that comes into the development to the I guess it'd be to the Southwest um so yeah that corner site has a kind of a new land use um kind of scheme that looks at mostly residential with some commercial on the corner and so the city council looked at that and did um allow the project to be um initiated so applications are still forthcoming from the applicant to pursue kind of a different proposal at that location okay and right when you see at the corner you mean up towards um World Market and the the mall the um um and where the product overpass eventually will will go right right and then that wasn't in the report but well I I'll leave that alone I had a question about how that's how that project is looking um and though the North Broad Street

park that's actually in my neighborhood how's that doing I I've driven by it many times I've not yet seen anybody in it I don't know expect you to have like a surveillance I'm not aware of the status of that particular that particular part but we can get back to you on that okay um and then the water use uh element you had 117 gallons per day per person and that's the sort of number that we look at and um up at cowp and the planning stuff that I do up there so I think I remember the national average being on the order of 75 gallons per person per day so is that like the total amount of water that that our city provides divided by the number of residents per day is that how is that an actual number that of actual use we have a representative from water here who can answer that for you yes thank you Shauna Scott U special projects manager of our utilities department so the 117 gallons per capita per day is dictated in our general plan for how we calculate our primary water supply um it is derived from uh the water conservation Act of 2019 that established water conservation goals uh for the Central Coast Area and so looking at the city's actual water use it has ranged over the past 10 years between 90 and 100 gallons per capita per day so our water conservation measures are pretty aggressive and the community responds to it so we're definitely using less water um than is dictated by those water conservation goals okay great so 117 is kind of a planning number that we want to be ready for and we're seems like we're coming in below that that is correct correct and and as mentioned it was Surly dictated by the state um they determined water conservation goals for different regions within California and then our general

plan um provides those formulas for how we determine our primary water supply we also have our um reliability Reserve which is really a buffer and then we also have a secondary water supply that can be used in for shortterm demands yeah that's from Wells well pumping and that sort of thing we we don't currently use any groundwater Wells but we do have a project right now that uh will be kicking off this summer uh for two groundwater extraction and treatment Wells it'll actually treat some um there's a pce plume Within part of the aquafer within the city and so this project will treat that aquafer and um provide an additional source of water for the city okay all right and the um I haven't heard anything lately about water conservation I haven't gotten anything in the mail and um it hasn't come before this commission lately uh is there anything that we're thinking about doing and in the meantime we've had hundreds actually thousands of units come online were we feeling pretty good that we have enough water absolutely I mean looking at our our current water supply um we have a really we have a diverse water portfolio and um we're looking good for a buildout of the general plan okay great one more question for her yeah where are those Wells located so the two wells will be cited um actually if you're familiar with the water resource recovery facility there's between so there's a um a parcel of land in between the highway and the warf and so those two wells will be located there one of them kind of near the Bob Jones bike trail so it's kind of the perfect location for Access um to those Wells thank you you're welcome okay thank you nothing further at the moment all right any other questions for go ahead um couple of questions um there was some information about um how um in

in the open space and other areas uh people are working on fire prevention there are some new maps out that seem to show a lot more High Hazard zones in the city and I was curious if um the fire department feels ready for uh for all of that it looked U like a lot of red ready uh good evening Todd Tule fire for the Cs low so the maps came out on Monday um and the numbers are is that me I [Laughter] don't should brought a hose in with you no uh so the maps came out on Monday uh March 10th um previously we had 24 Parcels that were in What's called the very high fire hazard severity Zone um as of Monday we have uh 2850 so it's a pretty significant increase um there's also the previous Maps which came out in 2011 um only mapped within the local responsibility area uh very high fire hazard severity zones the new maps um as of Monday now include also the high fire hazard severity zones and the moderate um severity zones so um when you're looking at government code 5175 on down through 51183 um there are regulations that um include those high and moderate zones that previously were not considered or contemplated because the local responsibility Maps didn't include those um there's a lot to this and I would be

getting ahead of myself if I gave you much more information about what the plan's going to look like um because we are just now starting to capture the magnitude of What's um what's coming down the pipe for us so um that's kind of a high level summary right now um and I'll just add the one other piece of this is that we do have um you know chapter 7A of the building code uh which is due to be updated here in uh July with the new um uh the new um state code uh the local amendments will be adopted by the end of the year uh we also have a new wild interment interface code uh that will be part of that discussion and fire code is also being adopted or is also coming through at the same time so uh there's a lot more conversation to be had um the public review and comment period for the hazard Maps which um by code needs to be out within 30 days of the receipt of the maps that process is we're looking at how to get that out to the public uh and then the coded option will be within 120 days of the publication of the maps so that's slated I think it's on the agenda for well it's projected to be on the agenda for July 1 where we'll adopt so the codes the building codes we're talking about new construction or will this apply to existing great question structures yes for new construction um and uh building permits as the code has does read today and has read previously uh the question or the clusion that's going to be new is for us is the high Hazard zones so previously we didn't that was not part of the building code in the high Hazard zones within a local response area uh that has changed because now they are mapping High fire hazard severity zones so chapter 7A will apply to a larger um portion of the city's Parcels I see so that's in a sense

there's like a tenfold increase it sounds sounds like in Parcels 100 yeah 100 fold increase 100 fold oh maybe I didn't write it down right it's kind of hard to get your head wrapped but yeah yeah so in this next period ideally you're equipped to to handle whatever we we Face huh we're g to have to we're g to have that's part of what we are looking at is what does the H hundredfold increase in the number of parcels that have to be assessed what does that look like how are we going to address that and where are we what resources do we need 20, 850 I think then maybe so it was 24 Parcels before it's 2 oh oh got it okay okay 2850 I wrote in the very high it doesn't account for the another 1,600 plus that are in high and another 1,400 that are in moderate so since we got the maps three days ago to your point um we've got a lot of assessment to do on what the needs will be to address those good I think we're well equipped with you thank you any other questions can I follow up with just one thing just not a question but when I read the number 7,4 incidents uh for the past year uhuh and that's 20 plus 20 or so per day that just really kind of blew my mind and so um I was just wanting to appreciate that you guys do a lot thank you thank you for that I I will add that's actually a drop from the year before I saw that too yeah and and I I really I credit a lot of that to the mobile crisis unit that's starting to show its impact on taking some of the load off the emergency response call so we're starting to see the MCU and its ability to get out in front of of um some customers that we see repeatedly um it's also able to take on some of the behavioral health

response calls and not actually have to send an engine or truck to those calls but thank you for noticing that appreciate I did the same math in my head when I saw that number too and wanted to say that that was very impressive just the load that you guys uh cover and I'm glad that it's you know decreasing from the previous year thank you very much appreciate that any other questions all right thank you all right any other questions for staff generally I had a couple more sure go for it um so uh Ethan you talked about there was some permit data that you provided um are the processes moving smoother and faster I know the Planning Commission isn't as involved as it used to be so I'm assuming that saves a hell of a lot of time right there but um yeah I mean as a assistant planner myself uh the digitization of of these processes is definitely smooth that out um the ability to reach out to to other folks involved in this process is a lot easier than it was when uh before before that happened so I'd say it's a lot smoother yeah and does it public feel that things are moving faster is that possible or likely yes I would say so I mean a lot of the projects um I would say most of the projects that that we receive on the planning entitlement site are now at a director level uh for approval so that provides the authority um community development director to approve as an example up to 49 um housing units in a in a project whereas before anything 11 or more was Planning Commission approval so that right there most of the unless it's a very large project which we do have here and there most of them are coming in at the director level for review also you had information switching topics here about um code enforcement and noise party calls and this kind of thing are there actions

being taken to kind of reduce that load that you're aware of that the city's trying to do to um reduce what seemed to be a heck of a lot of monthly noise calls in neighborhoods yeah so the city currently um Community development's working with our co- enforcement staff to kind of prioritize um some of those issues working more collaboratively with our Police Department in getting weekend um report logs and looking through those to be able to track and um really focus in on some of the you know bad behavior in some of the neighborhoods specifically around calp and then um lastly this is more a complicated question but um it strikes me that um the Madonna Plaza areas and I know there's probably a lot of property owners there are all kind of zoned commercial retail but there's an awful lot of empty buildings and it seems like such a prime location for more housing and I'm just wondering uh I'm also thinking of kind of how Madonna Plaza connects to downtown and I can see that um it looks like Caltrans is finally moving out of its uh properties there some of which are zoned I think commercial retail as well and um I'm just wondering how if the city's starting to think about how to organize something that would allow you know very good access to downtown from there that much better than we have now for in terms of especially maybe active Transportation guess you have to work with calr if it's over the freeway and stuff but um how we can um kind of take advantage of what looks like an awful lot of open space there and U and

sort of how it can be connected over time to downtown I'm just curious if um we're thinking about that long range I'll say one thing about that which is that the I've seen the plans for the South haera road diet a start that's a which is is looking like connect with all this right so that's a piece of it anyway amen Luke Schwarz Transportation manager I can weigh on that are you talking specifically about the calr kind of headquarters and maintenance properties that are off of M both of those but somehow just because that's on this side of the freeway and uh just thinking over time it sort of creates some opportunities to kind of uh make it easier to flow yeah certainly um I'm not sure of what how the timing will ultimately work out my understanding is their the first phase of their plans is relocating their maintenance facility which is the property that exists on the north side of Madonna Road um they have an environmental approval and are planning to relocate that to a new facility off of Buckley Road um I don't know about their funding and timing plan the next phase of that kind of Campus master plan would be potentially offices on Buckley Road on the north side oh um which is their kind of longer term phase I think some of that's dependent on calr getting a better handle of what their Staffing and in-person office space needs are uh they kind of went to a largely remote Workforce during covid and are kind of working their way back and seeing what their long-term needs are they built the new facility in aera too and they have the offices the Midway building um I think the long-term plan conceptually was to locate all of their various campuses throughout the city into one spot off a Buckley Road um in the short term the maintenance chart I I don't know that it's going to be vacated or sold my guess is it sits in that state until they figure out what they're doing at the rest of their offices the long-term plan is is ideally their whole facilities up in Madonna Road are vacated and from a circulation stand

Point our goals would be to realign Madonna road further to the South so to connect you know basically we're like Bridge Street and mcarthy kind of auto dealer is now with either a roundabout or a better designed traffic signal increase that spacing from that intersection to the South Street intersection so that we don't have two really closely spaced intersections that don't operate well together that opens up other possibilities for connections for active Transportation but um I'm not certain on the time frame I would guess the the wholesale campus relocation in realignment of Madonna Road would be far out you know a decade plus so it would be maybe prepared if there were a lot more housing in the Madonna Plaza area or housing on top of it commercial whatever um then at least um circulation would work better on the other side of the freeway yeah wherever the growth is happening that feeds more traffic to that Corridor depending on the timing of the pr interchange um that Madonna high gear intersection and how close it is to the South Street intersection is going to continue to be congested yeah thank you appreciate all right any other questions for staff go ahead I just want to offer a data point on commissioner Jorgenson's question about how is it how's the permitting process work working I did a built a porch a front porch on my house last year so I went through the whole process I went to the counter got my plans got review everything was really I was impressed with the process and it was smooth and pretty fast and the inspections went well and I had good comments from the reviewer and so a little disappointed we didn't get too late thank you all right all right uh at this point if I don't have any other comments excuse me or questions at the moment we'll go to public comment and Deputy city clerk do we have any requests to speak on this item Cher I have not

received any request to speak on this item all right seeing that most of the audience is City staff I'm going to assume we don't have anyone coming up so I'm going to close public comment and just give us one more chance to ask any final questions of Staff before we actually let me ask uh being a receive and file do we need a vote on this yes you do okay thanks I have a couple other questions that aren't necessarily from the presentation but are from the annual report so okay uh I'll go by page number here on page five of the report which is Page 29 of our packet there's a table the 1% population growth projection and at the bottom it says estimated Urban Reserve capacity 57 7,200 anticipated people what does that mean what does that number mean the anticipated or estimated Urban Reserve capacity so that's the area between so we have the uh Urban reserve line around the city and then we have the city limit line it's it's the area between those two and based on zoning how many more units or people it might absorb correct okay and we also have projections there that go through 2035 that nudge up pretty close to that number so if you kind of connect the dots there over the next 10 years we're g to kind of build out to the urban reserve line anyway yeah well the plan would be we were 10 years into a 20-year General plan and we're yeah basically I think you mentioned we're right on Target in terms of our anticipated growth so um I would say yeah that that's exciting and um give kind of where things are going to go we we do anticipate we will um still have capacity in you know over the next

decade or so as we build out to 2035 um but that all depends on the development and timing of that for um for new housing okay great and then U my next H question was about Reena and the table on on the on the report page 11 and 12 and what it shows there at the bottom of that table is uh total units remaining by income level and it's broken down but it's 1,89 and our Target is 3354 and there's three years left in that period so are we behind on Reena housing and catching up to our allocation yeah I mean with the Reena allocation we're about half you know halfway through that allocation and we're about halfway through this Reena period so I think we're doing pretty well but again I just remind you all that this is more of a goal this is not really a specific obligation so uh compared to a lot of other jurisdictions I think we we've been adding quite a few to this and doing well sure seems like we've been doing good in that department I just was kind of curious how we measure up and so I mean if we were halfway through then we should be more like 1,700 but I I understand what you're saying and then right across from that I noticed 474 active housing projects um and I'm looking down that list of uh cero and Waterman Village and kayen and these are all things that we've seen come through here and when I see that number four 74 I just kind of went that's great I I thought we should Pat ourselves on the back for that so um and I also noticed some of the numbers on the homelessness Solutions section page 1450 15 and just I'm really impressed with everything that we're doing in that realm and um I

appreciate all the efforts that are happening there so thanks for that just more yay kind of stuff I did uh have a question on page 16 40 prto uh how much do we spend to run 40 prto per year approximately if do we have is that easy to come up with me pull up our amount we do the city does provide funding annually to 40 prto That's not their full budget obviously to operate the homeless Services Center but I can provide the number um that the city is is funding them currently uh so for fiscal year 2425 the city provided sorry just pulling up the contracts I get the exact amount $ 28,8 126 that covers um some Operational Support a hotel voucher program the 40o safe parking program the warming Center and then we also provide in-kind um bus tokens for their participants I was prepared to hear a much larger number than that that's the the city's contribution the county also provides funding annually for the home Services Center and then they braid a lot of funding between different Grant sources private donations um yeah it's a so the overall budget for 40 PR is probably quite a bit more than that it is that's just again the city's contributions I don't have their full budget for 40 PR but that's what the city contributes annually that seems like the city's contribution kind of sounds like a bargain for the city oh yeah I know and then I know this isn't really our perview but are there more 40 Pros elsewhere in the county like does Paso have something like that Templeton

a there's no other Access Center to the degree that 40 pra operates um it's the only Access Center in the county but five cities Homeless Coalition does have two different projects um more emergency shelter but they have their cabins for change project which are the tiny home modular units um and they opened a second project very similar to that called um B Co and so those are both again in South County in North County Echo e um El Camino Homeless Coalition they operate um a shelter um for individuals and families then they also have the Paso home key project which is a partnership with um haslo people self-help housing and Echo um that was a a home key Grant similar to the home key grant that the city received for the the kaien home key project okay great that's good to hear all that stuff okay thanks um I'm almost done here and on page 27 of the uh report which is our page 51 um the city collected over 1.1 million in tax revenue from Cannabis and budgeting for about the same next year do we directly get uh tax revenue from booze in the city or is that that goes to the state and then is there anything to compare that to we don't get taxes from alcohol sales okay okay I was just kind of wondering if there was a comparison what would that look like um simply curiosity there and then that's all I have all right I think seems like we kind of transitioned from questions to comments so I would say if anyone else has any comments otherwise I would entertain a motion to adopt staff's recommendation and receive and file the annual report I'll make that motion I'll be happy to second that right we have a

motion and a second I take we have no deliberation before we take the vote deput city clerk we have a motion in a second can we get a roll call please commissioner con yes Vice chair hton yes commissioner Jorgenson yes commissioner T yes chair yes thank you very much all right that takes us to uh staff updates and agenda forecast would Deputy community development director Tyler Corey please provide the update right thank you chair Coy members of the commission um looking out our next regularly scheduled meeting is on March 26 I currently do not have any items so that meeting is um going to be cancelled and then moving into the first meeting in April April 9th uh we have currently two items on the uh agenda one of them public hearing item looking at some cannabis zoning cleanup uh text amendments and map amendments there as well as um a consent item for a street abandonment so that's what I have um looking out in the forecast and then beyond that things get a little less certain all right thank you very much any questions for Tyler about upcoming meetings or anything else um I was I was going to mention the email that I sent to you Tyler about um trying to to get a some portion of some of one of these meetings to have a listening session on Diablo Canyon and um did that did that make it to you or it did I was out of the office so I just got that haven't had a chance to really think about it too much but um just a couple thoughts around that sure and there's no rush on this I just wanted to kick it into the into the realm but what do you think about that so definitely not within the planning commission's perview and I would say something that would be more um probably appropriate at the city council level if they're

interested in doing something like that um but I don't see I would see that the council would definitely want to be U making those kind of decisions around whether a community meeting on Diablo Canyon is is going to be on an agenda okay yeah and this is originating just because I'm on the Diablo Canyon engagement panel for decommissioning and when I talk to people around town there's a lot of confusion about what's the deal Oh I thought it was going to shut down oh I heard it's going to run for another 20 years and I think that it even though it's not squarely in our purview it fects a lot of what we do here as far as the revenue and housing and jobs and all kinds of things so um if that uh we can talk more about it offline and just see where that ought to land but part of that that whole panel is engagement and we we feel like we're not getting enough get engaged enough and so we're all individually the members of that panel looking for Avenues and ways to engage with the public and it seems like this is possibly one so we'll we can talk about it more no rush all right anything else before we wrap this up right the regular meeting of March 26 2025 will be canceled as previously mentioned so the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is scheduled for April 9th 2025 at 6 PM in the council chambers at City Hall 990 Palm Street San Louisa dispo and we are adjourned