Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Evening, everyone. The 12/05/2024 meeting of the Planning Commission and Board of Zoning Adjustments is called to order. Would everyone please stand for the pledge of allegiance? Will the secretary please conduct the roll call?

Yes. Chair Zuber?

Here.

Vice Chair Tejada?

Present.

Commissioner Bolt?

Present.

Commissioner Mendoza and Commissioner sorry. Solis are both absent as well as Commissioner Chibjulu. Commissioner Rich?

Present.

All right. The public is invited to make any comments related to the agenda items that are not listed under the public hearings or other items of public interest at this time. If you wish to speak during public comments, please fill out a speaker card and hand it to the administrative assistant, and speakers will be invited to speak. Public comments are limited to three minutes per person. If you wish to comment on an item listed under the public hearings portion of the agenda, you'll have the opportunity to do so when the item is heard.

Please fill out the speaker card and hand it to the administrative assistant, Rina. We are now taking public comments. This is the time when any person may address the Board on matters not listed on this agenda. Okay. Thank you.

The draft minutes of the meeting of 11/07/2024 were provided with your agenda. If there are no errors, additions, or corrections, it should be moved that they are approved as submitted. Do I have a motion to approve the minutes of 11/07/2024?

Make a motion to approve. Second that.

It has been moved by commissioner Bolt and seconded by commissioner Rich that the minutes of 11/07/2024 be approved. Please vote on your screens. The motion passes with four yeas and three absentees. Miss Segretura, are there any items of correspondence?

Not this evening.

Thank you. Any oral communications? No. There are no public hearings items on the agenda tonight. We have one miscellaneous item. The item is GPC24001, consideration of a general plan conformity finding concerning vacation of city owned Eden Road, assessor's parcel number 42453052. May you please have the staff report?

Thank you very much. Good evening, Chair and Commissioners. Thank you for coming tonight. Appreciate it. This item is a general plan conformity finding for the vacation and sale or disposition of Eden Road.

So we don't do these very, very often. So I would like to just give you a little overview on what a general plan conformity finding is about. The state requires that when an agency owns real property that is used for public purposes, that it take particular actions in order to dispose of that property. One of those actions is a general plan conformity finding. In this case, if real property, this is Eden Road, is in an adopted general plan, I can't imagine a situation where it wouldn't be, but if it's in an adopted general plan, can only vacate the property after the location, purpose, and extent of that property have been submitted to and reported upon by the planning agency, this body, with respect to its conformity with the general plan.

So it is just an administrative function. Further, the legislative body, which is the Council of course, has to consider the general plan. So they will look at this conformity finding prior to actually vacating the street. And that is in the street and highways code. So to the project itself, Eden Road, as you probably are aware, is an unimproved road that's in the Northwestern part of San Leandro.

It provides access to 11 parcels that are under five ownerships. The owners are San Leandro, City of Oakland, KK Eden Properties, which is the umbrella company for Alco, Alco Iron and Metals, Cantor Properties, couple, Guadalupe and Teresa Cheyne's. All the uses are industrial uses. So this the city had taken some action in I don't know, it was about twenty years ago to purchase Eden Road. It had been a private street, and the city took an action before this body to actually purchase Eden Road.

The idea was that the road would be improved with redevelopment funds, but then the state eliminated redevelopment agencies about three or four years after the city actually purchased the property. So the money that the city had planned to use to improve Eaton Road just vanished overnight. And the estimated cost of improvement is about $5,000,000, so it's a pretty significant amount of money to take it from an unimproved dirt road coming off of state highway to paved curb gutter sidewalk, you know, drainage, the whole thing. So the location is here, as you see on the map. Doolittle Drive is here.

This is State Route 61. And the state highway actually comes around, or the the paved it's actually state highway, not paved. Comes around the corner here a couple of 100 feet off of Doomittle. But the parcel that the city owns and is looking to dispose of is in yellow here. Immediately adjacent to the North Northwest is the city of Oakland.

That's the municipal golf course that they have there, the driving range. And street, Eden Road, runs all the way to the water pollution control plant and terminates there. And it is just dirt, really. It's kind of an icky, muddy mess in the winter, dusty and dirty in the summertime. So the adjacent general plan designations here are in the city of Oakland.

In Oakland, it's urban park and open space. The water pollution control plant, while it's an industrial use, the general plan designation is actually public and institutional, and then all the property adjacent to the south is general industrial, the IG. General Plan actually has policies that speak very specifically to Eden Road, and there are two. These are action T52D, so it is in the transportation chapter. As the study becomes available, the city will complete the Eden Road improvement project, including paving and sidewalk.

Action land use, 7.6. D, says that the city is going to improve Eden Road in the West Davis area, so it speaks to a larger area, but also to Eden Road, in a manner that attracts higher value industrial land uses and improves the appearance and image of the area. This would include the paving of Eden Road and frontage improvements on the adjacent properties. Finally, Eden Road is a collector street as designated in the general plan. So the general plan conformity finding is exempt from CEQA under two sections, 15.301 or a type one, and fifteen point three one two or type 12.

Section five zero one exempts minor modifications to existing facilities. This is really just a change in ownership, but the street would continue to function as a street. So it was truly a very minor modification. All the property owners would continue to have access from it. Section 15.312 actually exempts the sale of surplus properties from CEQA.

Back in March, the City Council took an action to authorize the execution of a memorandum of understanding between KK Eden Properties, Alco Iron and Metal, and City of San Leandro to transfer the property to KK Eden Properties, Alco, and that they would actually develop the property. The MOU is in your packet that has been executed. It was executed back in March, so we are sort of ready to move forward. There is a few things left to do. The MOU talks about the city selling Eden Road to the buyer, who is KK Eden and Alco, that the buyer will improve Eden Road to city standards, and engineering has drawn up some plans for that.

The city will contribute to the cost of construction, and that the adjacent properties will continue to have an access easement over the road. There are some other things in the MOU which you can see there, but these are the main points. So the MOU was executed in March also. City Council will need to consider vacating Eden Road. That will happen after this action, of course.

And then Eden Road will be constructed to city standards and then conveyed to the new owner. Staff's recommendation to you tonight is to adopt a resolution finding that the vacation of Eden Road is in conformity with the general plan pursuant to government code section 65,402. With that, we are happy to answer any questions you may have. We have numerous people here who could answer anything I can't answer myself.

Okay. Thank you for the report. I really just have two questions. Number one, and you've answered it a couple times, but I guess I'll wanna ask it a different way. Once we vacate or sell the property, there is a, like, a pick apart business on that road that has been one of San Leandro's best kept secrets for guys like me who like to fix their own trucks.

Now once it's the road's fixed, I'm I'm nervous. I'll lose a lot of parts too because people will start to know about this place. But I digress. The point is is, like, once we sell it, I'm nervous that there could be an occasion where we don't own it, so, therefore, the owner can decide what to do with it. I know we can put limitations or whatever once we sell it, but how does that look? You know? Oh, there's too many trucks, and now people can't park. And what what where do we go with that? Like, what what is the city's responsibility once we sell it to those owners on that road?

Well, the MOU does in fact have there will be an access easement over it for all the adjoining property owners. In addition, however, and something to be aware of is ALCO is very interested in putting a gate across that street. Now, it's going to be open during business hours, but everybody who has to, everyone who has an access easement there, will also have access to the lockbox on it and so on so they can come and go. But during business hours, that gate is going to be open and everyone can come and go.

Okay. So so really, I mean, we're just trusting that the new owner would honor all the rules and regulations of that.

Do we trust them?

So

the MoU provides that there's gonna be a easement recorded, granting a a public utility easement, requiring allowing public access to be limited in the ways that Sydney talks about, but also requiring that the property owners have access.

Okay. Okay. It's a legal limitation. Yeah.

It's legal. Okay. Beyond our scope.

And I think Eric may have Oh,

Good evening, commissioners. Eric Engelbart, deputy city manager. Just to expound a bit further on what the city attorneys just just shared. You know, that the the meets and bounds of that easement are are the entire boundaries of the property. So essentially that by by by definition, virtue of that easement being there, the public access has to be retained. So including public the right right to the general public as well as the city as well. So essentially, none of those existing all the existing rights that currently exist today, essentially, will will carry on by virtue of that easement, if that makes

sense. Okay. Thank you. Then then the last part. The way I understand is that that we would bring it up to a certain standard, create a better street before we actually sold it.

Why would we do that if we're selling it? Like like, why don't we have the new owner

We will.

Of the street pay for the upgrades? Like, why

That's what's gonna happen, actually. Oh, But it will be done before the conveyance occurs.

Oh, okay.

So they'll pay for it, and we'll we have some skin in the game on that as well. And then it'll so that they don't we retain some control over it before the conveyance occurs.

Okay.

Right.

Okay. That makes okay. So they're gonna pay for all the upgrading and everything like that.

Most of it.

Most of it. Yeah. And then we'll sell it to them. Okay. Alright. Fair enough. Thank you.

Mister Tahara.

Oh, thanks for the presentation. Couple of questions that that I had here. So in one of the slides, you were mentioning that, the purchase that the city conducted was roughly twenty years ago, and then there was some form of funding dissolve dissolvement that occurred in 2012. Mhmm. So with it being purchased twenty years ago and there being, I guess, a specific idea or concept in mind with the purchase occurring.

What's the rationale behind that twenty year purchase and, say, nothing occurring between the date of purchase and the funding avenue dissolving in 2012? What occurred during that limbo phase where nothing happened and it just kind of sat stagnant with no improvements?

I can put a little bit of information on that, but I rely on Eric for most of that. But the redevelopment agencies, such as they were, actually provided a tax increment financing opportunity. And so money would be collected year over year over year, and whatever the additional increment is over the baseline tax would come to the city. So you would essentially bank it, collect it until you had what you wanted, and then you'd use it for something. So I wasn't here then, but my guess is is that we probably had not collected that money in total before it went sideways.

Okay.

Just maybe to add a bit further, I I concur with everything Cindy just shared. I would also just add, yeah, essentially, the you know, when you had that state statewide dissolution of redevelopment factor in that 2012 era or Great Recession era that really just, like, eviscerated the possible funding source that was envisioned to actually fund the construction. And the challenge is is just given the limited users, this this project is estimated to be well over $5,000,000 cost and to justify that kind of an expenditure when there's so few users essentially on the frontage and when balancing just the the greater road needs across the entire city and then, you know, what that what that money could otherwise be spent on on other more heavily used streets with the greater use public usage. And so that was the challenge was essentially that there was no with the with the dissolution of redevelopment. There was no more.

There was no longer funding stream. It was hard to justify putting no funds here when it when other the funds are needed elsewhere. And the absence of, you know, we had explored what's called a Mellow Rouge district, which is basically where the the property owners would tax themselves. That was one option. But given the reality is that virtually all the properties are owned by alco metals with the exception of that the junkyard.

Essentially and essentially alco metals is going to be fronting the majority of the costs as well as the ongoing maintenance of it. And that's the real benefit is that relieves the city of that kind of ongoing liability in exchange that the city is, you know, kicking in some one time monies to assist about an order of approximately $3,000,000 But again, keeping in mind that just to pave the road is well over $5,000,000 plus those that ongoing maintenance cost for which the city doesn't have an identified funding source. So it really is kind of relieving the city of the burden while also ensuring that the road gets paved and is available for public access. So it's really a win win for all the parties involved. And when that heaviest user, of course, is Alco Metals themselves.

We will now have a a paved road over which they over, hey, do have control but again, by virtue of that easement, public access rights and for all the property owners and and the public in general will be secured as well. Hopefully, that makes sense.

Oh, it does. Thank you. Thank you for that. I guess I don't know if if if it's available for information. The the the purchase that occurred twenty years ago versus I guess, where we're at in terms of the agreement right now with with Alco Metal. Is this essentially a net positive transaction when you deduct that twenty year ago purchase to time value of money for today's real time dollars? Is this a positive cash flow incentive for the city, or is it a push, or is it a loss?

I

mean, I would say this. I I don't know that we've conducted the the type of specific analysis that you specifically identify but I would say in general, this is a win for the city. This is a financial win because right now, if the city were to retain ownership over it under the current structure where it's a city road in order for us to get that paved, it's going to be well over $5,000,000 and then addition to that, we'd be on the hook The ongoing maintenance costs which be quite sizable. Under the current proposal as as devised, we're only having to kick in $3,000,000 of one time money and some of that actually is already fund balance that we already exist in an account that was dedicated for Eden Road. So there's no no cost to the general fund whatsoever.

And the other $2,000,000 is ultimately coming from the water pollution control plant because they're gaining access to a parcel that is currently adjacent to Eden Road and for which they need expansion area for the water pollution control plant for the ratepayers. So essentially that special fund will be kicking in the additional $2,000,000. So at the end of the day, the the city general fund is is is completely left whole. There's no general fund costs whatsoever. Taxpayers are not hit in any way.

Water pollution control plan ratepayers get the benefit of additional land area to for expansion area to deal with environmental regulations. And then on top of that, the city is relieved of the ongoing, you know, liability associated essentially with owning this road that is in a, you know, a city and and mentioned earlier is in very bad shape presently. And so this gives us kind of a solution where it gets paved. And there's a provision in the MOU that requires alco metals to retain it at a certain CPI in in in perpetuity so that we can ensure that it doesn't degrade over time and is and is maintained in perpetuity and again, while relieving the taxpayers of that burden. So, from an aggregate sense, it is absolutely a win for the taxpayers and I can say that unequivocally. Okay. Great. And that

kind of answered my last question that I had, which was on page four of the agreement where it goes on to talk about the funding payments, the million dollar payment followed by the $2,000,000 payment. You just clarified the $2,000,000 payment being the water pollution transaction there and that being a set aside funds for that entity to account for. With the million dollar payment that the city is is paying upfront, I think I just heard you say that that's not part of the city's general fund.

That that exists. Yeah. That $1,000,000, what I would call the first tranche of payments, essentially, is existing fund balance. So going back to that twenty year ago period when the city first acquired the road, there were some funds that were contribu there was a special basically, special account off outside of the general fund that was created for Eden Road, specifically for the Eden Road project. It has a little over a million dollars of fund balance in it that's sitting there I was dedicated for this project.

And it's essentially been sitting there unused because by virtue of the fact that it's, you know, the project is so much cost so much more to actually construct. And so we're unable to use it. So the money is basically just been sitting there dedicated for this purpose with no ability for us to actually draw it down because we we had that over $4,000,000 shortfall. So by virtue of this kind of this MOU and this this kind of deal that was negotiated between the city and and Alco Metals, it's allows that we can draw down that $1,000,000 and then relieve the city of the burden. Yeah. Makes sense. And the tax dollar and the taxpayers as well, obviously. Alright.

Thank you.

In regards to the time the timing of this happening, is it is it because I think I saw that in the in the general plan, was something in regards to the year 02/1935. What's the timing of it, of this happening now?

We certainly have a representative from Alco Metals here as well who is actually going to be developing the project. But I know they are eager to get started in earnest.

Oh, sorry. I meant

the time in the project?

Why the MOU now? Is there is there is there something special about this happening right now? Is

Oh, I mean, essentially, I think, you know, the challenges, I want to speak to this, but the way I, my, what I would share is essentially at a high level is the road has been this in a terrible condition for years. It's not in the interest of the property owners, adjacent properties who use it. It causes issues on the Doolittle as well as your vehicle trips coming out in the dirt and the mud. There's also been some vehicular collisions that go on there because of the just the way that can, you know, the vehicles are coming in and out. So it's basically what I'd say is this has been kind of an an ongoing issue, for lack of better festering issue, for lack of a better term.

We have this you know, and it's identified. We've heard anecdotally that is among the last unpaved, you know, municipally owned roads in Alameda County. So it is this kind of just, like, historic and anomaly without a funding plan that had been figured out for for years and years and years. And Alco Metals really approached the city. And and this is well over it's two years ago, I think. Well, probably longer than that. And said, hey. Can we just, like, roll up our sleeves and and try to come up with a solution? And it was a, you know, it was a long negotiation period. I I served as representative on behalf of the city, and and Guy Houston here served as representative on behalf of Alco Metals, and we just tried to work through different scenarios.

And, ultimately, the the deal points that we came up with there really were that that win what I would classify ultimately as a win win for all the parties involved.

Absolutely. I I notice it every time I go to Oakland Airport. Every time. And my husband is also a pick and fold junkie, if you will. So

It's in it's in everyone's interest to to get it paid. And so this is the plan we were able to identify that worked for us for everyone.

Okay. And and then the the $3,000,000 that is it's it's basically to pay for the the public utilities easement.

Correct. I the way that the MOU is structured is that, yeah, the the property on the new property owner, Alco Metals, is really on the hook essentially for the entire project costs. And it once it's turnkey, once the road is completely done, and, again, this spill over a $5,000,000 investment, the city has negotiated the sale price of that public easement of about of a at a price to sell a negotiated sale price of $3,000,000. And again, so that by and then that's the sale price of the actual easement. So that's how it's structured.

Right.

So with the on but, essentially, then what that means is that the applicant is fully on the hook for the construction cost.

Right. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Ball?

Yeah. Thank you. And just one thing just popped into my head right

now

because I'm thinking about that road. And in in that part of town, we do have a problem with motorhomes on Doolittle, on, not so much on Davis, but on Pulverosa. We repave this. It's gonna be eyeballed. It's gonna happen.

There's no way it doesn't happen during the day. And then we go lock the gate, and one of those vehicles is behind there. Maybe I don't know if this is a city attorney. Who whose responsibility is it now when the gates shuts on somebody who just brought their mobile home back there and can't get out?

Well, this won't be a a public street. So they're a member of the public's right to be on the street is limited by the easement, which says that it only is open to the public during the normal business hours of the the businesses there. So they won't have a right to park an RV there in the way that they might have that right on a normal public street.

I love you. That's the that that just doesn't pass mustard. Right? They're gonna turn down that street because it's gonna be a beautiful street, and they're gonna park there. And then what are we gonna I mean, is it gonna be the responsibility of the I'm not suggesting this because I don't think it's fair to the people who have just now purchased the street. You know? Hey. You gotta leave because at 06:30, we're closing the gate. Like, you know, that just doesn't fly. Right?

They how is it gonna be there? What are we gonna do as a city? It's gonna be our responsibility to send, because I can't think of anything else, a police officer down there to tell him to leave because that's really the only you know? And I don't maybe I'm out of bounds here with with being on the planning commission or you know? I just don't you know, that just came to my head when we talked about locking the gate, and I've lived in that neighborhood my whole life. And God bless the people that are stuck in that situation. But then now it's going to end up in the owners' lap. What's going to we can't just walk away as Okay, go. Yeah.

Chair, so I think trespass enforcement on private property is simplified in a way that it's more complex on public property. So in some ways, the police are often called on to private sites where the property owner is unable to have individuals leave when they've been asked to leave if they're in violation of the terms of the private property. So if there are trespass issues, owners can reach out to the police department for support. And in some ways, think it's much clearer cut than the case law that exists for public spaces, which is why the city sometimes has a difficult time enforcing what community members might think are rules and regulations that should be enforced, it can be more challenging due to the variety of case law and circumstances that exist. So that's, I think, a very valid consideration that I'm sure the team will discuss, and the property owner will be prepared for that concern given where we are.

But I think it actually simplifies matters than keeping it public.

Okay. Yeah. I guess I'm sure you guys thought about it. I know I couldn't have been the only one who thought about that. So yeah. Alright. Fair enough. That's enough.

K. Public comments. Guy Houston.

I'd like to introduce myself, Guy Houston. Tonight, I'm here representing Alco Medal. And where I thought you were going with that is what happens there all the time is people dumping stuff on that road. And so it will by cleaning this road up, the access issues, as Mr. Engelbart says, all the properties are gonna have to have access, legal access to their properties.

But it won't be the Wild West out there like it is now, where people park in the middle of the dirt. And so there has to be a flow of traffic available for the benefit of everybody. In particular, we were required to put a fire access turnaround at the end of Eden Road for fire safety. So people just can't block everything. And that's the Alco Metal customers and and their their own vehicles as well as, you know, Lupe here at the at the yard.

You know, I met with him and so there's gonna be some adjustments because they're used to just just laying it all out there. And it's not gonna be that way. But in any case, we're committed to this. The question about why now, why not three years ago? I mean, we've been working on this. I've been working with mister Engelbart for a long time, and he's done a fantastic job. And it it's there's it's incredibly difficult project between Caltrans, the utilities, having the other side of the row with with Oakland and the port and flyovers. And you know, there's just all kinds of hair on this. And so it really is a great thing that we can come together and get this done. But we would like to be under construction April 1.

Right now we have applications in for encroachment permits with Caltrans. That isn't easy. So we're going through those processes, and this is one of the steps that we need, and we really appreciate it. And I think it's going to be a win win, as Mr. Engelbart said, it's a win win for everybody. If there's any questions, I'll be here. Otherwise, ask for your support.

Commissioner Tada, you have a question?

Yeah. I just had I don't know who would be most most appropriate to answer it, but when you had mentioned fires, I was kind of reminded of, I think, a recent event that happened a year plus ago there on property. As part of the improvements to Eden Road, not sure if it falls within the direct improvement scope of work for the road proper. But if it's something above and beyond, is Alco metal or does Alco metal have any influence in, say, additional fire hydrants on the backside to the property being installed or discussed with the fire department just to make sure that there's a complete radius of coverage for any future fire events?

The answer to that specifically is yes. And we've been working with Alameda County Fire, city Of San Leandro on getting a fire hydrant as far down to the the junkyard property. So then there'd be coverage from from there to the end of of Eden Road. So we'll be able to do that Okay. For that in particular.

This is as far as Alco is concerned, this is kind of a two pronged process. Eden Road is the key, the linchpin. But we also have an application for CEQUA expansion to utilize two acres that are adjacent to the Alco property now. Not to really expand Alco's operations, but just to give us some more room. And when you mentioned fire, I don't want to say anything, but you probably heard we had a fire there today.

And part of our secret process is we had to put together a fire suppression program, and I'm happy to report that today it worked. So the fire was up and out in fifteen minutes. So our processes are better than they were several years ago. We don't utilize or we don't take in those electric car batteries any longer, which was the really big part of the problem several years ago, I think in 2017. So we feel like we're improving and this just intuitively, it'll be clean, it'll be neat, it'll be organized.

Ultimately, we'll have more room to operate, get the big piles off of Doolittle Road so it'll be more attractive, but also be just safer and and cleaner for everybody. So it's a win win and and we're we're getting there. We're about halfway there. Sounds good. Sounds like almost a complete firewater loop is gonna be installed there on Eden Road, which is good.

And and, commissioner, if I may may add with your permission just to to expound a bit further, the fire marshal from Alameda County Fire Department has been an active member of our project team, has been actively reviewing these plan sets, And rest assured, all relevant fire code requirements are being implemented as part of this consistent with, you know, public street requirements. In addition to that hammerhead turnaround, that's gonna be included as part of the project design at the very terminus to make sure that a fire apparatus can get all the way down there and turn around as necessary and get back. So it really will be overall an improvement from a fire mitigation perspective once the project's completed.

K. Oh, well, if there are no further comments, I'd like to thank the staff for all your hard work. Thank you. That was very thorough. Do I hear a motion to adopt this resolution?

I make a motion to adopt resolution finding the vacation of Eden Road. It's a conformity to well, it left. So I make a motion.

Second.

Thank you. It's been moved by Commissioner Bolt and seconded by Commissioner Tejada to adopt a resolution finding that the proposed street vacation is in conformity with the general plan. Please cast your vote. Motion passes. Four yeas and three absentees.

Okay. We're now gonna move on to commissioner members' comments. But first, I would like to, thank you, commissioner Bolt, for your service. Eight years, which I'm just learning. And if if I think we all know that, today is your last meeting as a planning commissioner, for District 6. So, we're gonna miss you. I I mean, I have to say. And congratulations on your, on your win. So

And I do have to be clear. I I started on the I know I said eight years, but I started on the, board of zoning before we

Before.

So, that's why it doesn't seem like I've been on the planning commission long because at one point, we had two, and now we're one.

Alright.

Just clear record. Yeah.

Clear the record. Are there any other comments from commissioners?

Yeah. I would just like to plus one to that. I think, we're all definitely gonna miss commissioner Volt and his presence here, on the panel. Always coming prepared, always ready to to serve. That's one thing that I took away as an example from, you know, the years that I've been able to to serve with you. So just wanted to express my my gratitude for your service. Wish you the best in your new, position as as council member. Well deserved. And, yeah, I wish you all the best, and, look forward to working together again someday.

Mhmm.

Okay. Do we have any staff updates?

We do. We have a few. First, I wanted to thank those who've reached out about the Planning Commissioner training. We'll be in touch. It does fall on a commission meeting night, so we'll look at the numbers and decide if maybe we need a special meeting to accommodate that month.

We'll figure it out. We are also going to be reaching out regarding the January meeting and scheduling. And looks like we'll look to have a special meeting in January as well since the first meeting falls so, so close to the holidays. So stay tuned for those of you that'll still be with us in the New Year. And then for the council meeting on December 16, our staff has several items that are going to that council meeting that have come through this body.

The vesting tentative track map for the shoreline will have a public hearing that night. Council has already made a CEQA determination for that item, but they will be hearing the the map itself. And then you'll recall there was the townhouse project at 13489 East Fourteenth Street. Council approved that project at their last meeting, but they will be having the second reading for the planned development on the sixteenth. And then the Monopine project that was approved here last month was appealed to the city council, so there'll be a public hearing at the council as well on that item.

So I just wanted to share those updates with you. And then I know it's been a long standing point of discussion. I'm surprised Chairperson Zuber didn't bring it up. But 1388 Bancroft, those buildings have been demolished. And so that site is under transition.

And we don't have an active application for building permits in our office yet, So don't have a time frame of when a project might come out of the ground there. But a very big first step was demolition. And then we also have, we're working very closely with the property owners across from the brand new project downtown, Centrocalon, which is really getting close to being completed and having residents start moving in directly across the street, what we call the Town Hall Square property, they are having some challenges with that building. They've been seeking demolition permits as well. When I say challenges, just break ins and challenges with graffiti and fires and all sorts of things.

So our office is helping them with their demolition permits. And so that's, I think, the next site that we are getting a lot of inquiries about. So you should see some action there, hopefully positive action in the near future.

Yeah.

Okay. Well, the time is now gosh. It's at 07:43? And the meeting is now adjourned.