Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

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Okay, we'll reconvene. Thank you very much. Um, so we'll now move on to item 25. restoring home ownership for San Dieans and I'm giving this uh the floor over to my colleague Desmond.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate uh ju just on this housing uh item and this is basically that been bringing forward is about the dream of home ownership slipping away here in San Diego County. I just got a feed here from uh I guess the Senate just passed a bipartisan bill to try to restrict the number of single family homes an entity or an investor could own. And it says it would this bill would prevent any investor who owns 350 homes or 350 homes from buying anymore. So I think it's a step in the right direction, but it's like it's like okay, you can have 349 but not 350. It's just uh anyway. Okay. So we're in San Diego County, we're facing an affordability crisis. The dream of home ownership just keeps slipping further further away for young families, young people. Uh, home ownership's long been a cornerstone of an economic stability for anyone and families. Uh, only 13% of San Diego households can afford to purchase a medianpriced home. So, this board letter seeks to explore the feasibility of establishing a county funded first-time home buyer program to help make that dream come true for more working hardworking families. Uh, the county, we currently administer two firsttime home buyer programs. The first is a down payment and closing cost assistance program and a down payment assistance program. Both are funded by the state and federal government. So these are two great pro programs and I want to be clear this is not to duplicate these programs but rather complement the programs. Um, one of the options I'd like to see in the report back is a possibility of a program that allows for potential interest rate buy down options so that we can increase the utilization of existing programs because the programs give money for help on down payments and things like that. But if you're paying a million dollars for a home, your your um mortgage can be from

five to six grand a month. So um I'm looking for hopefully uh interest rate buyown programs. Um, so the county funded program could essentially layer on top of these existing programs to increase the utilization. Last fiscal year of the two programs combined there only 26 households were able to use and utilize existing programs and that's actually up. In previous years it was in the single digits the number of households we were able to help out. However, so uh so at at the very least we should ensure that we utilize the entire budget for the existing first-time home buyer programs because we're not using that entire budget. Rather than leaving on money on the table, uh the dream of home ownership continues to slip away for the ma vast majority of our constituents. If we want our children and grandchildren to stay in San Diego County, if we want to keep teachers here, firefighters here, small business owners here, college graduates here, we need to expand the access to housing for firsttime um buyers. This is not a cure all. Uh it's just another step, a small step in the right direction to help more hardworking families. And again, this is to ask uh county staff to come back with a feasibility study for implementing uh a program like this. Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve this item and also I'd be happy to any friendly amendments that could help uh first-time home buyers here in uh San Diego County. So with that, thank

Okay, we'll go to public comment. Thank you, Chair Lawson Reamer. We do have eight total requests to speak on this item. Two individuals in person, six requesting to speak by phone. Also like to note for the record, we did did receive three e comments on this item. One was in favor and two were neutral. For any individuals that have requested to speak on this item by phone, if you could please dial into the conference line now using the instructions that were provided to you. We'll go ahead and begin with our in-person speakers. And I'd like to invite forward allegedly Audra and Katherine Rhodess to the podium. You will have two minutes to address the board. If you could please begin by stating your name for the audio record.

Hello, this is Katherine Rhodess and for Jim Desmond. Thank you very much for bringing this forward. you know, you're going to be I believe you're running for Congress, and I have a way for you to get a lot of attention. What it is is um the redevelopment agency. The redevelopment agency um deleted 10,000 affordable units, mostly single family room occupancy units from downtown San Diego. And we never got we never got the money back for that. Remember when they did the um redevelopment cap when they raised it so they could make the charter stadium back with Mayor Sanders back in the day? the cap was raised on the redevelopment agency and we could put that debt back in. I've been coming for, you know, since 2012. So, what 14 years I've been coming here and saying, let's put those 10,000 units on on the recognized obligation payment schedule through the county of San Diego's oversight board. You have an oversight board. Um, between the county and the city, you have four of the seven votes on it. You could put a billion dollars worth of debt onto if you wanted to, but of course the money could only be spent within the city of San Diego. But we you could actually go around and say we're going to solve the problem. Um we're going to um take care of all the homeless. We're going to we're going to give the money back to the people that it belongs to because this money was stolen. you're not allowed to delete a um an affordable housing unit unless you have a replacement unit, but San Diego just deleted them without replacing them. And so this is a way you could get some attention um state uh federally all over the place. And what it is is um when I talked to HUD, because I talked to HUD all the I used to talk to HUD all the time, they said, "Yeah, all you have to do is put it on your um routes and you could do it." And I and I've been coming here, but nobody understands. So, um please u do a friendly amendment to

to add um for staff to look into my issue of the possibility of doing this. Thank you.

Oh man, Jim, if you weren't so dismissive to your own constituents. Geez, it's like you can't even just have a conversation. It's so interesting. 26 households. Oh wow. That is not a lot of people. And it's sad because it's like we want to get people into home ownership when people can't even afford to pay rent and put food on the table and get the basic necessities just to live life. As we were talking about going against corporations yesterday when you're the corporation that needs to be sought after because you're the ones that are increasing the cost of living on a exponentially crazy basis. Um, but of course, I mean, if somebody owns 350 homes, yeah, that's not great. But it's the problem is is that even if you give them a down payment and this and that, they still have to pay for insurance and all of these things that are crazy amounts of money. And in the end, if they can't pay for that and you do put them into a home, you guys can confiscate that home if they are un able to pay for it. So, is there going to be some kind of stipulation in here that says if by chance you have some kind of problem and there's a default and and they want to come and take your home, what are you going to do then? Is there going to be another program that's going to be there to help like you guys always want to do? I mean, because if somebody doesn't pay like even if it's a couple hundred in taxes, you will take that home and sell it for a couple hundred bucks instead of going like what can we do to make sure these people stay in their home? Nothing. because you're going to profit off of it. And then even just to get in the mix of like buying those homes, you have to pay $1,000 just to be in there. So you guys get to pocket money. It's frustrating when you guys sit here and act like you're helping people when the writing on the wall is so clear when you guys come in and you take those things and and you continually increase people's, you know, cost of living and then act like it's other corporations that are doing it. Um just hoping that

the civil, you know, liability, whatever thing that Damon's going to be running is going to go after the county as well, but probably not cuz you're complicit. All right, we will now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone. When it's your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You will hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments. And we'll go ahead and begin with our first caller. an incredible it is your turn to speak and

okay go to our next Okay. Although the county already administers two-time home two firsttime home buyer programs as Jim pointed out in um FY2425 that they the programs the two programs assisted 26 households obtain first home ownership. Wow. We should really look into how these can be fixed up and improved. What would really work is building less expensive houses which are also quicker to build like 3D printed so-called tiny homes, skipping crate homes, maybe building less expensive Dolby homes. As we keep telling you, these would not only be cheaper, but they'd also keep up the market for new homes better instead of house that might not be built for years. And then it would be less likely to end up with an over supply of homes. And there needs to be more than five or 10% of truly lowincome housing, which like 30% of AMI per HUD. This is what needs to be guaranteed, not below 50% or up where the developer can essentially pick and choose whom to let in. Ask yourselves, do you really want to solve the housing crisis or just keep doing long-term expensive things the big

developers want? Um, you know, it's like like uh do you want a lot of homeless people to keep being homeless, low income people not to be able to afford houses? I mean, that's, you know, it's really ridiculous what you're trying to do. I mean, you you need to nail down really do some

Thank you. Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker. gambler here. The reason why the reason why uh the reason why we have to why no one can own a house, no one could repair houses, why apartment buildings don't get repaired is simple. Proposition 13. Proposition 13 basically uh prevents it prevents people from updating their house. It prevents them to do any improvements because suddenly they have to pay more taxes and I don't understand why you guys don't recognize that and look for other revenue streams like for example our landfill that is going to be overflowing within 5 years. You could go ahead and drastically reduce it by recycling plastic and generating funds from it. You could reduce the amount of fi fines that ends up taking place. Uh you get what I'm saying? You could go ahead and reduce all that, but you don't because you're more interested in the money you're going to make. I mean, not the money that the corporations are going to make. You want to go in and save your security. you're going to let bad people go ahead and take care take advantage. What I don't understand is why you don't look at the base problem and try to solve it. Why why take a look at that instead of stacking one band-aid over another band-aid over another band-aid over another band-aid until finally anyone with money freaking leaves and you are just stuck with dependence. all depending on the government to save their ass because you do not want to give anything back to the people. You need to take everything from them and

not actually fix the roads, build housing contracts, uh, housing projects in areas that have trucks that will tear up the roads. So, how often are you going to have to repair the roads, but you don't have the money for it, right? Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker.

Hey, it's true. Fun fact, it was communists who created the Monopoly game. Now they own 349 properties on the board. And what's funny is you guys giving corporate developers the green light to build their ugly, expensive stack packs, which do not make for home ownership. This board wouldn't even ban non-citizens from buying our property. This is a well-intentioned item. That is just wrong. Limited housing inventory is not why homes are overpriced in Sando County. There are homes that have been sitting on the market empty for 6 months simply because people won't or can't rent or buy them, especially not those ugly stacks of packs at luxury prices to live in a stupid box with no backyard. This board's vision is not the American dream. Hence why people leave the county and state. Keep your million-dollar fixer uppers. They're overpriced slums. The rest of the country has no housing crisis or affordability crisis despite taking in record amounts of Californians. That means you're doing something wrong. The state's expecting people to take on a loan for a down payment that won't even cover half of the real down payment. Fix. Who even wants two loans just to buy a million dollar fixer upper? See, this is what happens when you have five property owning, outofouch, career politicians, part of the privileged property owning class making decisions they never feel for themselves. Too bad those doctors rely on property and sales taxes, which is why this board pushes those luxury stacking taxes. But why don't you guys just give out free mansions or airplane tickets to county residents like you did for the illegal aliens? Prove you really care about San Diego residents. Help them escape. To summarize, this is a sound good, feel-good item that will achieve pretty much nothing for the average person. Pass it and nothing's going to change until every board and state policy is changed regarding SQA, insurance, VMT, gas, and everything else that's causing an affordability crisis in California. People are going to keep moving out.

Sell all county properties and get out of the real estate market. Otherwise, there is no future in California. It's going to be more. Thank you. Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker.

Swellow. Bingo. Yes. Amen to all the speakers and uh yep, dependency is the name of the game as mentioned before and um you know that that's all it's about. But home buyers program is the right name. You can't have it be home owners program because there's no such thing of owning anything within this system. Ownership that too is an illusion. Um but so how about Jim Jimmy boy? How about working to abolish property taxes forever? And uh if you this is the reality. If you work hard to own a house then it should be yours, right? The fact that you can buy land, build a home, pay off your mortgage, yet still lose your home should be illegal, but it's not because this is the system and it's designed this way entirely perfectly seamlessly uh did I say perfectly flawed. Yet not for our advantage, not for the people to strive, but for the people to further struggle and barely survive. Um, what other what other words of wisdom do I have? Um, let's see. Let me read you a little something something reminder. The whole system is designed to disconnect you from your intuition. Why disconnected people are easy to what? control and manipulate and keep on the hamster wheel to nowhere's ill. Okay, that's all I got. I'm done. I'm so bored, dude. Okay, thank you for your comments. We'll go to our next caller.

Okay, Terry, we're trying you again. Can you hear us? Terry, last call. All right, that caller is nonresponsive and Chair Lawson Reamer, not seeing any more movement. That concludes public comment on this item.

Um, okay. Thank you so much. Um, I I have a couple comments on this. Um I know I my colleagues in the queue so Okay. Oh, thank thank you very much, Vice Chair. Appreciate that. Um uh I I think I first just want to say start by thanking um Supervisor Anderson for bringing this I mean sorry, Supervisor Desmond for bringing this item. Sorry, Supervisor Desmond. Um, I think we're we have been talking for many years and certainly been a central focus of mine that a housing affordability is a key challenge facing San Dieans and it's a defining economic anxiety for San Diego families um right now and it has been for quite a number of years. Um I certainly think that some of the ideas in this board letter uh including the interest rate buy down are promising um and a feasibility study around them is is an excellent idea. But we also need to be honest about some of the cost drivers um because there they are multiple and um there's many many factors that do drive costs but um some of them are hard to control and some of them are much more uh directly within uh the policy purview and respond pretty directly to uh policy interventions. Um, so I kind of want to really focus specifically on those. Um, so first of all, tariffs. Um, a December study by the Center for American Progress found that Trump's tariff policies are on track to result in 450,000 fewer homes being built through 2030 and raising the cost per home on average by $17,500. Um to co uh to corroborate uh this analysis, the National Association of Home Buyers has reported that materials have increased uh by 8.5 to 9.6%

just in March alone. Um so that's tariffs uh clearly um one of those policy issues that are directly um within the locus of control of decision makers um and can be really done differently. Um another issue that's really central at the at the current moment and I think centered for for everyone I'm talking to are uh the geopolitical conflicts that are driving up the cost of oil. You know, we know um without a doubt uh that the US actions in Iran and Venezuela have been uh creating an energy crisis um frankly unparalleled in my lifetime. Um it's it's very scary. Um we're looking at fuel fuel prices at the pump. Um higher energy costs, but that is just the most immediate um impact on consumers. Um it also impacts home building and home building costs. According to the Association of General Contractors, the disruption of oil, natural gas, and aluminum aluminum supplies is pushing up costs and causing construction delays. And these conflicts are clearly creating severe inflationary pressures that have stalled the Fed's planned rate cuts. So going back to the point um that Suza Desmond made about you know the fact that some of these high interest rates do make um buying a house in unaffordable because the down pay the monthly payments are so high. What drives those rates is the Fed rate and what drives the Fed rate is the Fed's mandate dual mandate to reign in inflation and maximize jobs. That's a dual mandate. Um but in reality when inflationary pressure pressures are significant and threatening to spiral, the Fed has to prioritize

um inflationary making sure that we don't um end up in an inflationary spiral as we as happened in the 70s. Um which means when we have rising fuel prices because we are in a war in Iran that the rates stay high. So, um I understand that it might not be immediately obvious to most people who are going to buy a house who are looking at a 6 and a half 7% interest rate that it's um in large part because we're bombing Iran that inflation inflationary pressures remain high which means that rates stay high. So, I acknowledge that that is not immediately apparent but um that is what's really going on kind of once you unpeel at least one layer of the onion. So um these cost drivers while they seem theoretical are not abstract. They show up in cost per square foot and affordability. Um a 25 basis point rise in the mortgage rate prices out approximately 1.13 million households nationally. And if we are looking as a county to encourage a home ownership, um it would be a lot easier and a lot better if interest rates were just lower instead of us looking to use GPR to pay for uh a buy down on that interest rate which is being driven up because we are engaged in a war in Iran. Um, and every $1,000 increase in the medium price of a new home prices out an additional an additional 1,000 sorryif um 100,5 households. So, if we are serious about home ownership, we have to be willing to say what's making it so much harder. And today, uh, we can go on record doing just that. Uh so I I certainly do uh support this uh proposal. I think it is the right thing to do to be supporting

and promoting home ownership, but I think that at the end of the day, we want to be getting to root causes and we don't want to be using our very scarce county GPR that's taxpayer money to essentially fund interest rate spreads that are being driven by a war in Venezuela, a war in Iran, and a global energy crisis. Um, so with that in mind, um, I would like to propose a friendly amendment if we could put that up on the board. Okay. Thank you so much. Um, so add recommendation two to the board letter as follows. direct the chief administrative officer to include in the countyy's legislative program opposition to federal policies that increase the cost of housing construction in San Diego County, including federal tariffs on construction materials, as well as opposition to US military or economic actions that disrupt energy markets and construction material supply chains such as US actions targeting Iran and Venezuela. Um so would um like to make that as a friendly amendment to the item. Um, and if uh my colleagues willing to accept that amendment, I'd be happy to second the item.

No. Uh, you're really politicizing this thing. What I was trying to do is we've got a couple of programs here at the county that are underperforming and I wanted to see if we could get a little more widen the net, cast a wider net to let people more people take use of these programs or more people be able to qualify for these programs. This is a political agenda that you're putting forward. housing costs here were even well be like in 2016 there was a a study done that 45% of the housing costs here in San Diego County was was due to government and so instead of trying to put this in here just trying to cast a wider net so more people can use these programs and blaming the tariffs blaming Iran and Venezuela we've had this housing issue for years not just in just recently due to the Trump administration. I mean, even during the Biden administration, these these things were were very housing was going up and up and up. I think if this is the reason why we don't can't get people into housing because of political uh uh agendas instead of what can we do locally to fix it? We got a program. Let's see if we can make it better. That's all I'm asking for. This I don't accept as a uh as a second for the recommendation. Um this is a political agenda. instead of trying to fix a problem, doing what we can with what we have locally.

Okay. Um, thank you, Vice Chair Montgomery Step. Thank you. Um, I I want to thank Supervisor Desmond for bringing this item forward. Um, this is something that has always been a part of my agenda, uh, firsttime home buyer programs. Um, so I just had and I don't know if I know I see Dr. Hernandez, which HHSA is is wait, somebody's coming. Where is

Oh, David is there. Oh, hello. Hello, Mr. Strand. Um because I just had a couple of questions about um the programs that we currently have. Um, I wanted to because my experience has been everything that we invest no matter where I've been serving in government, it go it's out the door in three months, you know, by the time we reup on these programs because the need is so great. Is that the case here? Number one, let me just ask, is the is the San Diego Housing AD uh commission administering both of our county programs or are they coming? Are we doing that?

Good afternoon. Through the chair. Uh yes, vice chair. The city of housing uh commission administers both of our programs right now. A down payment and closing cost assistance program and a down payment assistance program. Okay. And do we I know supervisor you said um we don't want to leave any money on the table. I agree. Do we leave money on the table right now or uh we one of our programs right now is completely expended uh which is the down payment and closing cost. our permanent local housing allocation funding which is used for our higher income. We do have some money available and and as mentioned earlier the the parts that are out of the county's program control is interest rates, lack of inventory um okay and things like that.

So we we did one in house then we would have more options to include some of those things that are in the board letter to buy down. Yeah. Additional options of course would open opportunities for for home buyers.

Okay. Um the two things that I've seen in in um focusing on this work for the over the years um one is making sure AMI is flexible um with people that could otherwise qualify, right? That we in some cases increase that a bit. I know we have an up to 80% and then an up to 120% um program. Now um the let me see this study this the um according to research in 2022 from the urban institute middle income um households in San Diego earning between 80 and uh 50% AM AMI have a substantially lower home ownership rate um compared to those uh state and and nationwide. So, I think that would be something I would would ask to be con considered here. And just also when we're going through our budget process, if this is needs to be a priority to um have more funding for uh these types of down payment assistance programs, then I think at that that's a good time to advocate as well. But now I'm understanding the importance in having our own program because currently right now we are put do we put money from our budget into those programs

uh through the chair. Right now our funding sources of the home investment partnership program which is federal and uh state money which is a permanent local housing allocation. Is the federal money does that come through CDBG or no? Uh no it's it's home investment partnerships. Okay. Okay. So we don't have an allocation through our budget process. Correct. Okay. Okay. And so this would open that up potentially. We would see what comes back and what the options are. Well, you your comments were very strong about advocating for home ownership for people. Absolutely.

So I think our budget reflects those values or should at least. Um Okay. All right. Well, and this that's what the feasibility study is for. So we can come back. Would we have information before we make budgetary decisions this year? Uh not within this time frame. Uh vice chair. Okay. All right. Uh, supervisor, what is the time frame? I'm sorry. What did you What did you ask for? 120 days to come back in 120 days.

Would it be possible? And I'll ask our CEO this um uh because we know that you are Joan is not here and you're all things budget. I think you would know the answer to this question. Uh would we be able to, if we found this a priority, put some um uh funding aside for it to uh with the uh parameters of being an investment into a county um run home buyer assistance program um even if the program was not set up yet?

Um through the chair, thank you for that question. Um we are out of time for the CAO recommended budget. We do have the change letter process which if there was information available that was sufficient for making a decision yes we could look at it through the change letter process. Okay. Because if we do the 120 days can we do it in 90? Yeah. Or I would be interested in whatever the timeline would be so we could have a set aside just because if we do 120 days when we miss at least until the first quarter or midyear report.

Thank you through the chair. I'm seeing David nod that a combination of things. One, if there's a desire from the board to go to 90 days, it sounds like the team would be ready to do that. And to your point, the budget is a living document. Um, we may miss the adoption cycle or the change letter process, but there are continuous opportunities to make updates through the quarterly status adjustment or even through standalone board letter that may come forward. Okay. All right. Um, those are the questions I have. Thank you.

Can I ask real real quick from David that so do we get the same allocation every year for the for these dollars? Does it go up or escalate at all or it's a fixed number each year that these programs the DCCA and the DPA programs? So starting with the home investment partnerships, it's generally about the same each year and if there is money unspent, it would be moved it would be moved forward. Could we potentially get more money if we had matching dollars or things like that with uh with either of these programs? Uh I I don't believe I don't believe so based just based on the nature of the programs. They're not designed for to be uh increased with match money. Okay. Just curious. One one is federal and one is state. So they're kind of they're just

um I appreciate the questions for my colleague. I I I like the 90 days. Um Senator Desmond, your motion's on the floor without a second. I'm prepared to make a motion um to bring this item forward with uh two um two amendments. One is adding the recommendation two as um outlined on the board and secondly as um for the thoughts of the vice chair moving the timeline from 120 to 90 days. So um I'm prepared to make that motion. I think first we need to wait a little bit to see if your motion gets a second. Um Ryan, at what point do we decide his motion has failed for lack of a second? Sure. If there's no second on the floor, then it fails. Is there any second?

Okay. So, um your motion has failed for lack of a second. So, I'll make a motion uh to move forward with this item on expanding restoring home ownership for San Dieans um as written, but with uh two amendments uh changing the 120 to 90 days and adding recommendation two. Uh supervisor Agiri, thank you. I'm happy to second, but I do have a clarifying question. So, do we know more or less what the fiscal impact will be at the 90day mark? I know that's a hard question because we don't know that's precisely what we would be approving as the analysis but um ballpark

through the chair chair prom what what I can say is our expenditures for last year were $1.8 million for 18 families in our down payment and closing cost assistance and for um our down payment assistance we spent 734,000

but those were through federal and state funding. So for roughly, you know, the the 20 the 26 households, you know, 2 point uh uh 2.6 2.7 million, um we would have to research designs, programs, and and I I what also I would say is um there's always a ramp up period for a a program. Um of course, we'd have to work with the region. Uh lenders would have to be made aware of it because in essence, if if something were approved, it would be the community understanding how to work with this new program. So it would be money spent over one to two to three years. Um and so as as a starting point, if we're spending 2.5 plus million dollars over 26 families, we can kind of guess a number of households that might access it and then extrapolate from there.

Okay. Thank you. Um would the maker of the motion entertain a friendly amendment to add uh because there's been some comments about this being political, but I think this is factual. the reality that we're living and um some of the um uh statements you made. Um I think that I would be interested in adding information on how um everything we talked about earlier is impacting the housing supply, the tariffs, the the energy landscape, um the the international conflicts. I think that um you know to say that that's not the case but uh is one thing and to actually have uh data that we can incorporate in in this bringing it back so that we can have that information uh on the record would be important. So just to clarify uh your your your kind of addition to number two would be the direct would be to leave this the same and then additionally to um include in this report back analysis regarding

um the impact of geopolitical conflicts and tariffs on inflation. construction costs and the local housing market. Correct. That's fine because that'll be include in the report back. So just additionally data directly additionally direct the CAO to include in the analysis geopolitical conflicts. The impact of geopolitical conflicts and tariffs and energy

just put I hate Trump. Why don't you just put that on there and and tariffs on this is the reality we're living because of his decision. And tariffs on inflation, comma energy costs, comma construction costs, comma, and our local housing costs on our on the housing market. Local housing market and uh our local housing market. Thank you. Yeah. Happy to conclude. Sure. Um, okay. Uh, Supervisor Desmond.

Yeah, I'm going to be voting against my own item here. This This is why nothing gets done. This is why housing doesn't get built. This is why you try to fix something simple locally and you got to have everything else thrown in at it after it. Every angst you've had against the administration. This all comes up unfortunately when just trying to do simple things here in our own community and this is a poison pill. You know that is not necessary. We just need to get more people and young families into housing and this kind of this kind of reaction and amendments just poisoned everything and nothing gets done.

Okay. Thank you very much. Uh there's a motion on the floor on the second. I think um all the speakers have spoken and Ryan uh chair. Yes. Uh supervisor chair protoci and supervisor Desmond. Do you have any more comments? He's done. Good. And then yes, all speakers. Okay. Just there's still people left. Yes. My apologies. Um okay. Thank you. Please take a vote. And chair lost rumor. That motion passes but supervisor Desmond voting no. all the supervisors who are present and voting act.

Okay, thank you all very much. Um so we're moving on to item item 29.

Yep. Um turn the floor over to Chair Portigiri. Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to start by acknowledging something very difficult. The recent allegations concerning Cesar Chavez are deeply disturbing and they land at a time when communities across our country and around the world are demanding accountability for acts involving sexual exploitation and abuses of power. We're in a moment where people, especially women, are coming for forward with traumas they have experienced that have too often been ignored or dismissed. And it is my firm belief that public institutions have a responsibility to take those concerns seriously and to respond with clarity and integrity. That responsibility extends to how we honor individuals. The names we choose to elevate and commemorate carry weight. They reflect our shared values and signal what we are willing to stand behind. And when credible concerns arise, it is appropriate to pause and reassess. Now, as we consider this item I have brought forward today, it is important for us to collectively reflect on the broader history of the farm workers movement. This was one of the most significant labor movements in the history of our country driven by workers who organized to challenge an unsafe conditions, low wages, and a lack of basic protections. We have to all remember that this movement was never the work of a single individual. It was built by a diverse coalition of Mexican, Filipino, and other immigrant communities. The movement ultimately succeeded because people came together across communities and took collective action. And the role of women in the movement was absolutely critical. They led efforts on the ground shaping strategy and holding the movement together through incredibly challenging circumstances. Despite that, their contributions have not always been reflected in how this history is reported. Among the leaders who embodied the collective spirit of the farm workers movement was Dolores

Werta. She co-founded the United Farm Workers and helped lead major campaigns that brought national attention to the conditions faced by farm workers, including the great boycott that mobilized support across the country. Recognizing that broader history matters, especially in a moment like this, if we're going to revisit how we honor instrumental movements of the past, we must do so in a way that is more complete and more reflective of the people who carry the work forward. This item today achieve that achieves that by shifting the focus from an individual to the movement itself. Renaming Cesar Chaveis Day to Farm Workers Day Cent's collective efforts and more fully recognizes the many people whose contributions made progress possible. These recommendations also align with broader calls for accountability we are seeing across the United States, especially calls for ju for justice from the victims of sexual abuse nationwide. Ultimately, this change is a measured step, but an important one. And I believe this is a thoughtful and appropriate way for us as a county and as a country to move forward. Thank you, Madame Chair. I'm happy to move the item and I hope to gain the support of my colleagues.

Okay, we will go to public comment.

Thank you, Chair Lawson Reamer. We do have 10 total requests to speak, three individuals in person and seven requesting to speak by phone. Also like to note for the record, we did receive two e comments on this item. Both were in opposition. For any individuals that have requested to speak on this item by phone, if you could please dial into the conference line now using the instructions that were provided to you. We will go ahead and begin with the in-person speakers. As your name is called, if you could please come forward and stand on the arrows until it's your turn to speak at the podium. You'll then have one minute to address the board. If you could please begin by saying your name for the audio record. I would like to invite forward allegedly Audra Caesar Javier and Katherine Rhodess. Jim, I think Terara swallowed your balls. Um, Paloma, nice try. You care about sexual assault victims. I think you're just embarrassed. But, uh, it's interesting because it's like, uh, are we not adding 16 more beds to the Pinsky Center? Has there not been decades of abuse of children that has taken place? Sexual abuse. Is there not sexual abuse that the county is covering up with Mallaya and Zia Robinson and many other children? But yes, your political theater is so interesting. Yes, I see your finger that you're giving me Paloma. See you next [ __ ] Tuesday. Yeah, you want to flip me off? I'm flipping you off, too. Right. Because you want to play this [ __ ] game like you give a [ __ ] Please

keepipping me off. Audra, please Audra please continue to make your comments relevant to the topic which is the 29 topic 29. So go ahead victim. So you can go ahead. All right. Thank you. Yes. [ __ ] you.

You don't give a [ __ ] about [ __ ] sexual assault victims, right? [ __ ] you. You stupid [ __ ] We are the protection unit volunteers. My God, you wanted to erase the name of Cesar Chavez and just make it a farmer's day. No. God, help us. Miss Agiri, my fellow citizen, we voted for you Filipino people. You do not remember the contribution of Larry Ilong. Read our history. Madame step low graduate Western College. What are we here talking about? Put the name of a Filipino. Lar the pioneer the first than our brother Mexicans. You know that Sir Deson, please do something to honor a veteran learn who fought side by side.

A common enemy. Your time is your time's up, sir. Somebody left. this.

Uh hello, Katherine Rhodess, and thank you, Supervisor Agary, for doing this. You know, Dolores heard um her put her um statement out online on March 18th, and it's been exactly one week. So, thank you for moving this forward. I actually think that you should have it be called farm workers endors her today and I'm gonna read something from her statement from her. I'm n be six years old and for the past 60 days I've kept a secret because I believe in exposing the truth. I've um and basically what happened is she was um she had two children by Caesar Chavez and she put them up for adoption and um and she didn't tell anybody for a long time and just um I don't know how many years ago she actually got a hold of the children and she has met the children and they actually have um a relationship but I think because of all that hurt she should be lifted up and and we should actually say um Dolores her instead of just only farming Thank you.

Thank you. And one of our phone callers has moved to in person, so I'd like to invite Joanne Fields to the podium. You'll have one minute to address the board. Good afternoon. Sorry I ran over here, but I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this item because it is so important. Um, my heart goes out to Miss Dolores Werta. She is a leader that was violated. I believe that it had happened. And for her to be able to release this trauma even in her 90s is a major um decision for her, but again, she's a role model and for what she has spoken out on. And now that you're reconsidering renaming Caesar Chavez Day to farm workers mo um if it's farm worker movement day or farm workers day, I appreciate um me doing so because the farm workers movement was more than one person, one more than one ethnicity and it shows how we work together and we should continue that legacy of Latinos, Filipinos, African-Americans, Anglo working together. So, I'm in favor of Farm Workers Day and thank you for allowing me to speak.

Thank you, ma'am.

We will now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone. When it is your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You'll hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments and we'll go ahead and begin with our first caller. Oh, there's a scandal and suddenly you do a lastm minute response killing in this political climate. I realize that it's important to keep a clean record, but I'm disturbed that Caesar Chavez and family and associates are being tarnished by mere allegations of improper sexual contact which happened years ago. No due process. Let me no due process. It's unconstitutional. This sort of thing can happen to any prominent person. It often ruins lives and careers for pretty much nothing. Are you, and you wouldn't be the only county, are you doing this to take our minds off the child perversion you guys fostered? There are holidays where many people are involved, which are named for.

Thank you. Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker. I don't understand how you could flat out lie to the people and blame Donald Trump on issues that I clearly emailed you. I showed you where the problems came from regarding our housing. You flat out ignore all the rules that we went ahead and did. flat out lie and laugh about it when you're doing it. You [ __ ] [ __ ] I do not understand why you guys are trying to push us into fighting each other.

Time. Sir, your comments are not on topic. We're talking about renaming Caesar Chavez Day. This is the fourth time this meeting. You have forfeited your time.

Thank you. We'll go to our next speaker. It's truth. Progressive puppets like Manuela are now pretending they care about women while they're silent on Newsome's release of violent sexual offenders that have raped women. Caesar Chavez hasn't received the due process progressives whined about her for illegals. There's zero evidence to back up Dolores's claims. a woman who has 11 children from three different men, including four from Richard Travis, Caesar's brother. See, Caesar so bad Doris even praised him at his funeral. The words of Foundation was sued by former employee Ruth Sanchez for wrongful termination, discrimination, retaliation, and misappropriation of a $95,000 grant. Dolores needs a distraction from fraud allegations on the back of someone who can't defend himself.

Illegal is coming in the spouses. The citizen is out of a job. It's a vicious attack. Bomb workers in California, even though a lot of them are Mexican descendants, very mad about the illegals coming to break their strike, takes away their jobs, every business thinks they can get away with it. Our job is to inform the whole country what's happening. You can't be pro worker and pro illegal immigration, you fakes. He said, "Call ICE."

Your time is up. We'll go to our next caller. Okay, consol here. Oh man, this is h living in the matrix. Here we go. Okay, more hypocrisy from this board. More manufactured outrage. Uh monkey see monkey do. Uh the more more government putting their noses where it shouldn't be. Um yeah, just as mentioned, where was the due process? I mean, you know, the left are always screaming and whining about this, but yeah, not not this time, huh? Not for the the the dead Mexican. Anyways, uh so yeah, waste of time and money. This is none of our business again. But somehow the left has made it huge. Something else fishy fishy fish tacos. Okay. And yeah, again, I could care less about the left right paradigm, but it is what it is and I'll call it out when I see it because um again, it's something ain't right here decades later. And so you believe allegations uh

your time is up. We'll go to our next caller. My name is Daniela Perez and I am CEO of Mana San Diego, a Latina organization dedicated to advancing leadership, economic mobility, and well-being for Latinas and their families. I want to begin by honoring the profound legacy of the farm worker movement and in San Diego County and across the nation. Their legacy continues to shape the opportunities and rights we have today. I support the intention behind recognizing farm worker day. It is important that we uplift the collective contribution of farm workers, the many hands, histories and communities that build this movement and continue to sustain it. At the same time, it is important to recognize survivors and recognize the impact of the harm that has been done.

Thank you. and Chair Lawson Reamer, that concludes public comment on this item. Okay. Thank you so much. Um, uh, Vice Chair Montgomery Step.

Thank you, Chair. Um, first let me thank Supervisor Chair Tim Pro Tim Agaric for bringing this item forward. Thank you. Um, thank you to U members of the public that called in um that um had something um substantive to say. Uh, Joanne in particular, thank you for being here. Um, I used to see you a lot more than I do now. So, uh, it's good to see you. Um, last week I called for the T and Chavez conference room at the Southeastern Livewell Center to be renamed. Um, although deep history is attached to that name, uh, it no longer reflects the strength, dignity, and values this space should represent for our community. So, I do support the call to rename Cesar Chavez Day as farm workers day in the county of San Diego. This moment is also a a reminder that no movement is defined by one leader. Real change has always come from people working together in a community. And right now I want to take the time to uplift the Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, and Mexican workers who did most of most of the low paid physically demanding agricultural work in California. Um we heard the name Larry Leong from our one of our speakers there. There's also uh the five martyrs of the farm workers movement that I want to remember who also lost lost their lives during the struggle for civil rights for the farm workers who feed America. Nan Freeman, an 18-year-old college student volunteer who was killed while picking was struck by a truck at a grower's entrance. uh Naji Defal, a 24-year-old a 24y old Yemen immigrant and UFW picket captain who died after a sheriff's deputy struck him in the head with a flashlight during a protest in Lamont, California. Juan de la Cruz, a 60-year-old striker who was shot and killed while picketing during the 1973

grave strike. Rafina Contras, a 28-year-old worker shot in the head by armed company foremen while trying to discuss working conditions in lettuce fields. Renee Lopez, a farm worker who was killed after participating in a strike for better conditions. And I want to just say reiterate again to Dolores Huerte um who had the opportunity as many of us did have the opportunity to meet because she's so active in communities um up and down the state and throughout the nation um that I honor her courage. Um her decision to speak out was an act of bravery and only deepens the respect that I have for her and to all of the survivors of the alleged abuse. Um we do stand with you. With that, I'll second the motion. Thank you. uh chair protoc. Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you, vice chair, for sharing that important um part part of history that's always important to uplift those who've sacrificed their lives for the better cause and especially um you know, Dolores Wartz. Many of us have had the honor to meet and uh and and certainly uh want to uplift uh her and other names that have been uh the victims of this type of um abuse. And I also want to thank Joanne Fields for being here and supporting this item. And I wanted to uplift her. Uh I don't know if you all knew, but she was just named woman of the year in my district, district 80th of the state assembly. So, thank you for your work. Thank you for always um you know, speaking truth to power and and and for the work you do, especially on behalf of the AAPI community. Um I just uh that that wraps up my remarks. Thank you, chair.

Um thank you. So, I'll just take a quick moment to uh appreciate um you moving really quickly to bring this item forward. Um you you move very fast and very timely. Um and the situation honestly it's really really really sad. Um but I do think it does remind us that at the end of the day um change is built on movements of people working together and coming together and so many people um locking arms and and fighting together. um to improve our communities. And it's not about one man or one woman um or one icon. It's about people and movements and um the change we make when we work together. So I think it's a really appropriate um reframe and um rename. I'm happy to support it as well. Thank you. Please take a vote. and chair and chair Lawson remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors who are present in voting I

okay thank you uh I do know that supervisor judgment um is going to need to leave at some point and there's some four vote items on consent so we're going to go straight into Wednesday non-aggenda public comment and then after that we'll do the consent agenda and after that we'll move to close session so uh Damon situation awareness probably Moser Mayos an hour until we end up at close session. Okay. Please uh vice chair just I wanted to know when we do the the committee updates. I was going to do at the end of the meeting. Got it. That's fine. At the very end of all the things. Cool.

Today. Okay. So, um Wednesday non-aggenda. Go ahead.

Thank you, Chair Lawson Reamer. We do have 14 total requests to speak on matters not listed on the agenda, seven individuals in person, and seven requesting to speak by phone. For those that have requested to speak by phone, please dial in at the conference line now using those instructions that were provided to you. We'll go ahead and begin with the in-person speakers and we'll now randomly select the five first uh fi first five speakers in person. All remaining speakers will be heard at the conclusion of today's session. As your name is called, if you could please come st uh forward and stand on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium. You'll then have two minutes to address the board. Please begin by stating your name for the audio record. I would like to invite forward the first three individuals, Gerald Flanigan, Dorothia Flanigan, and Ricky Robinson. All right, sir. You can begin your comments when you're ready. District I represent. That's a a good place. And uh it also is a good place for the Lord Jesus. I res I represent him also. My wife and I were driving down south on the Delos Highway saw the latest three billboards erected in formerly serene unadulterated scenic region of Lake

Hajes. Will there be no scenic roads left in San Diego County? This time they were 48 by 55 feet wide. Was this an appeasement to mitigate all the harm being done by blight signage? This is the most serious damage that has purposely been done to San Diego County by politicians. blackroom deals with billboards, operators, casinos, and attorneys bypassing a ballot measure so that voters could have the opportunity to protect their view of the mountain ranges, which we have plenty of, from visual pollution. Reno Deanna residents defeated their billboard blight 25 years ago and was done by the ballot. One would think your job is to preserve the natural beauty of this city. politicians sold out to the billboard companies for $3 billion just to become another Tijana Mexico. Please don't destroy.

Thank you. Thank you.

Have a blessed day. I brought one in so I could point to things to give an education to the people sell on permits to these what they call it's smut. Uh, and it's done in a way that you really wouldn't understand it, but they sure know how to do it. To get people to take their eyes off the road and try to figure out what's going on. The degradation of a divorcing woman, throw underpants in her face, and make her nose look like a penis. Oh. Oh, is that a penis going through those pants? Oh, I get it. It's Disneyland. That's her nose. Cuz she's a liar. And this attorney has he's not only unprofessional, he's he hates women. Now, somebody corrected me and said there's another one on the other side of the county of a man with a bazier thrown in his face. So, he gets just as much disrespect. I've had it with this stuff going in. We were never told by those sham representatives called community sponsor and planning groups. They never told us I went to every meeting for the past three years. I know what's going on. I know how to do oversight. They never said billboards were coming into San Diego County. That the city of San Diego sold out first. And then the

county came along and wrecked four already little towns with businesses, businesses, and billboard. Business, billboard, business, billboard. Ask any real estate appraiser what that does to the economics of a community. We don't want bots all ruined. Thank you. We'll go to our next caller or next speaker, Ricky Robinson. And then I'd like to invite fire forward the final two speakers, Robert German and allegedly Audra.

Non-aggenda, Ricky Robinson speaking for every family in San Diego County and across America that has been crushed, silenced, or prayed on by this child trafficking machine. This machine has gone rabid. This machine has prayed on children and punished families for decades. It retaliates against families, targets speech, and abuses power while calling it protection. County council Jessica Nico Felman, guardian supervisor, Nico Macan, social workers like Nico Monzo, David Miller are running wild and Evelyn Lopez is being brutalized by them. She has committed no crime. There is no crime here. So why is this mother being treated with such cruelty, contempt, and punishment for trying to get her children back? This is child theft in broad daylight. This retaliation in broad daylight. This is a human rights disgrace. There is proof. threats, recordings, and reports, obsessing over blogs, photos, podcast, protest, and public speech instead of actual child safety. Evelyn Lopez, Mallaya, and Zia have suffered far too long. This is an absolute outrage. Return Mallaya and Zia home to their mother. Evelyn Lopez now talking about behavior health here. When you take children and traumatize them and then you put them with mentally ill caregivers like Norma Alaveras, what do you get? More mentally ill. And if you falsely imprison me for saying Mallaya and Zion and showing their faces, you might as well just call me Ricky San Diego, California, because I'm going to own this town. You put me in jail for not committing a crime. Call me Ricky San Diego.

Okay, next speaker.

Thank you. As a followup to the discussion of ICE building a detention center at Gillespie Field, after I saw this article, now you know that you're not as naive as maybe you were before as asking if ICE came to the planning commission or to the airport. They're not going to do that. They're going to be secretive. That's troops army. There is no transparency. Nobody's going to know that what they're building until the immigrants are bust in and flew out. That's what Gillespie there is for. That's what the Wall Street Journal article was about that I gave you. And this now it's finally coming to the news. And that's exactly what I kind of portrayed or I tried to portray down here to the board of supervisors is somebody better be watching Gillespie Field before it's too late because you're going to have an ice detention center down there already built by a straw contractor and ICE is going to come in. And if it's not an ICE detention center, what the heck are they building? That should have been the question. That should be the question. What are they turning dirt for down at Gillespie Field when about a third of the businesses down there are in default of their monthly payments? Especially the ecommerce building on Well Street. 20% of that huge warehouse is occupied by an old business GKN that's been there forever. What are we doing building more empty warehouses with on

taxpayers land? He's not even making the payments at the last time I did any research. So, uh I think we uh ought to keep an eye on Gillespie Field and ask some serious questions. In fact, the question I would like you to ask, how did they get the 70 acres? Thank you.

Thank you. Romans 1:28 that if those who have turned away from God, he gives them over to a reprobate mind. And that's where we're at. He's given you over to spiritual wickedness, which you guys are engaged in. And it is clearly evident when you sit here and you claim to care about sexual assault victims. You're claiming that and you're doing something that is political right now, going and renaming Cesar Chavez Day and whatnot. But you have plenty of evidence to shut down Pollinsky Center. You have plenty of information to look into Mallaya and Zai and the sexual assault and the woman named Gigi that she reported that you and county council have buried under the rug. As a victim, it is appalling to see the way that you guys virtue signal and sit here and pretend to care. Terra, what if your daughter was the one whose bedroom was broken into and she was raped in her own bedroom by an illegal alien? Would it matter to you then? Cuz it didn't matter to anybody when that happened in Linda Vista. It doesn't matter to anybody that children at Pinsky Center for decades have been reporting abuse. You guys are adding more bets to that place. And you sit up here on this dis and we pay you [ __ ] money to hide the truth to bury it under the rug and sit there and act like you care about victims. You create them and then if they don't capitulate to your demands, you give them behavioral health therapy, put them on psychotropic drugs. kids who have been in the foster care system, who have been abused, are put on psychotropic so they shut the [ __ ] up, and you sit here and you claim that you

care. It shouldn't have to happen to your daughter, T for it to [ __ ] matter. When are you guys going to do something except for political theater and act like you do [ __ ] care? You don't. And it's a disgrace. And you should all you will all burn in hell for it. All right, we will now go and hear from those that have requested by uh to speak by phone. Again, in accordance with the board's rules, we'll be hearing from the first five callers. The remaining callers will be heard at the conclusion of today's session. When it is your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You will hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments. And we will go ahead and begin with our first caller.

My name is Kathleen Whippet. Most major US blue cities budgets are in the red. New York and California are among the richest political jurisdictions in the US. California's abundant natural resources and private universities have created massive wealth. A lack of basic services challenges all but the wealthiest to remain in California. Upside down board priorities are inexplicable. Criminal justice is not served by handing out pot licenses to grow, manufacture, and sell high potency products. Criminals are prioritized over victims and law-abiding citizens. Pristine, unincorporated lands are destroyed to accommodate large energy companies. Health care, fire insurance, if you could get either, are unaffordable. School choice will never happen with unions in charge. Deteriorating infrastructure has resulted from years of deferred maintenance. Yesterday's board meeting was a shameful display of partisan politics and Machavevelian tact tactics to undo term limits, spend rainy day funds, and disrespect our district attorney. Under the DA's competent leadership, millions in settlements and judgments acrewed. The chair's response was to pillage DA funds to create a new bureaucracy. she would control that would be bloated and ineffective. The public needs protection from Terara Lawson Reamer's avarice. Thank you for letting me speak. Thank you. We'll go to our next speaker.

Hi, good afternoon supervisors. My name is Madison and I wanted to speak about my concern which is the same as many county planning groups concern over the continued marijuana retail expansion and the direction of the county's social equity cannabis program. We have to honestly examine what expanded marijuana commercialization means for today's youth and young adults. The practical result of social equity cannabis licensing is more marijuana businesses, more storefront visibility, and more normalization of a mind-altering substance in communities where young people are growing up. Today's marijuana products are highly potent, heavily marketed, and increasingly associated with mental health harms in adolescence and young adults. Research continues to show links between teen marijuana use and increased risks of anxiety, depression, suicidal thinking, and psychosis, especially because the brain continues developing well into the mid20s. Young adults are also at a vulnerable stage for motivation, learning, and long-term mental health stability. When more retail locations open, prevention becomes harder for families, schools, and communities. Greater density would mean greater exposure, greater normalization, and often easier diversion to underage users. A policy intended to create opportunity should not unintentionally increase harm in neighborhoods already carrying significant health burdens. I hope the county will carefully reconsider whether expanding marijuana retail truly serves long-term community well-being, especially for younger generations who have to grow up with this. Real equity should include protecting youth and young adults from increased exposure to substances that can negatively affect mental health, educational outcomes, and future opportunity for them. Thank you.

Thank you. We go to our next speaker.

Good afternoon, board of supervisors. My name is Terry Anne Skellyy. a parent, a public health educator, and a county planning group member. When reviewing the budget yesterday, it is important to understand the role of smoking and vaping related disease and death as it is very important to address disparities. The overall conclusion that smoking and vaping takes a higher toll on the less advantaged people is not new, but needs to be carefully regarded when policies regarding smoking and vaping are considered. Here in California, Stan Glance, faculty member at the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine in the Division of Cardiology, stated, and I quote, "It is important to recognize the growing role of cannabis contributing to health disparities, especially given the prevalence of tobacco and cannabis co-use in youth and young adults and the social, economic, and health disparities associated with chronic or daily use of marijuana or tobacco use, which is of grave concern for public public health educators who work on behalf of 18 to 30 year olds and those of us who are a parent to that age group. Protecting all county residents from exposure to secondhand tobacco and cannabis smoke in all indoor and outdoor settings should be a priority. reducing the availability, the advertising, the billboards, and the storefronts related to tobacco and marijuana should be a priority of our county. Now, thank you for listening to me.

Thank you. We'll go to our next speaker.

Good afternoon. My name is Becky Raph and today I'd like to speak to an item that was addressed at yesterday's meeting and that's the creation of the consumer fairness and public protection unit. Consumer protection is important and we all support that goal. But I want to speak to something more important than policy itself and that's the respect, leadership, and tone being set in this chamber. There's a growing concern in our community that we're losing a sense of respect for how decisions are being made. And what happened yesterday proves that when a proposal of this magnitude moves forward without meaningful discussion and support from the district attorney Summer Stein's office, it raises questions not just about policy but about the process. The DA's office has a long-standing track record. So if there is a gap, the public deserves deserves to clearly understand what that gap is. Supervisor Desmond said it perfectly when he questioned what problem is actually being solved. And Supervisor Anderson asked for more time and input. And the DA herself emphasized that collaboration and trust between agencies are essential. Yet despite all of that, this appears to be moving forward. The board sets the tone and the precedent for how government works together. And that precedent should be one of collaboration, transparency, and most importantly, respect. When leaders work around each other instead of with each other doesn't strengthen public trust, it just weakens it. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll go to our fifth and final speaker. Good afternoon, Peggy Walker. Sunshine County information presented today regarding substance use related youth mental health problems further begs the question of why play with marijuana expansion adding to multiple reasons not to with county data predicting a 129% increase in youth substance use. This challenges the wisdom of exposing youth to high potency THC products. Data shows kids living in neighborhoods near dispensaries have higher rates of use and psychosis and more so in black and lowincome communities. Large-scale studies document devastating physical and mental health harms to those under 25 evidenced by highcount marijuana related ER hospitalization and youth treatment rates. Research institutions have totally debunked medical claims. media once in favor but now acknowledging adverse outcomes for youth are calling legalization wrong and multiple jurisdictions recognizing youth harms are backtracking legalization. Let's be clear, the pot industry business model is to hook future generations and keep existing users dependent. No reparation or tax revenue can justify the resulting child poisonings, addiction, physical and mental illness, cannabis hypermesis, psychosis, suicide, DUI injuries, and death. Not one young person's life or future is worth the tradeoff. Allowing

expansion will hold this board accountable for every preventable harm that follows this policy. If justice is your goal, invest in viable job training for so-called victims, not a predatory industry built on exploitation of our young people. Thank you. Thank you. And Chair Lawson rumor, that concludes the request for non-aggenda public communication this afternoon. Again, all remaining speakers will be heard at the conclusion of today's session. Okay. Thank you so much. We're now going to move on to consent. minutes.

Oh, sorry. Apologies. Uh, now we must consider approval of the statement of proceedings and minutes for the sanitation district of March 3rd, 2026. Do I have a motion? Do I have a second? Second. We have a motion and a second. Please vote. And Chair Lawson Reamer, that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors who are present in voting. Okay, now we will move on to um consent. Um does anyone have any items to pull? I'd like to pull item eight, please.

Okay. Uh Supervisor Giri would like to pull item eight. Anyone else have any items to pull or any comments to make?

Yeah, I'd like I'd like to make a comment on I mean item three and pull item six. Um item three, I appreciate the thoughtful approach to the uh energy study that's presented here. I also want to give a shout out to the folks in Burggo Springs. Uh they're the ones who urged us to pursue additional analysis for infill capacity for solar energy and they were right on the mark. Uh while we still there's still a work in progress, uh staff's initial finding is that only a third of our capacity for infill renewable energy is currently being utilized. So to me it's obvious we need to do more work uh before declaring utility scale solar in the back country. uh is that that's it is not the cheapest and the best path forward. Again, big shout out to Brago Springs and I look forward to uh future updates. Thank you very much.

Okay, item um six has been pulled. Item eight has been pulled. Anyone else? Uh Vice Chair Mep. Uh no comments. I move the balance of the consent agenda. Okay, I'm happy to second that. We can go to public comment now.

Thank you, Chair Lawson. And we have nine total requests to speak on items on the consent agenda. Three individuals in person and six requesting to speak by phone. Again, as a reminder, items six and eight were pulled from the consent agenda for discussion. So, any individual that requested to speak on those items. If you could please hold your comment until the board discusses those items. We will receive public comment on them on those items separately. Uh we will begin with the in-person speakers uh on u excuse me for any individuals that requested to speak on the remaining items on the consent agenda. If you could please dial into the conference line now using those instructions that we provided to you. Now we will begin with the in-person speakers. Again as your name is called please come forward stand on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium. You have two minutes to address the board. Please uh begin by stating your name for the record and also when speaking please identify which items on the consent agenda item consent agenda you're speaking to. Like to invite forward allegedly Audra, Caesar Javier and Michael King.

Wish we lived in a world where you guys actually were beneficial to the people. Um yeah, it's interesting for this uh energy supply study. Reminds me of when Nathan Fletcher was chair and the people from Hakamba came out, they were bust out and they were trying to say we don't want that solar field in our town. They weren't even going to benefit from it. In fact, the energy was going to come here into San Diego. Yet, it got pushed through and money got pushed into the people. Hey, we'll give you let's just like throw a couple million bucks at them. even though these people can't even leave that community because they can't afford to live anywhere else and that's going to be in their community very soon. There's already one close by. But, you know, you you do things and you circumvent the will of the people. All those people in that community didn't want it and it happened anyway. And and that's what's going on. And and all of the energy you guys want to bring in is is toxic. Yet, you claim that you want to save the planet. You have all of these lithium bombs that you're putting around with besses and different things like that knowing that it's going to create a fire that you can't even put out. You can't even douse it with water. You can put them in the water and they'll still burn. But yeah, that's smart, right? And then you guys, you know, put people in fire dangers by all of the uh infrastructure that you want to implement. Um like with your, you know, green street projects, different things like that. You're doing it because you want to build a 15-minute city. Let's be honest with the people and tell them that you're pushing a United Nations agenda. Why do we have to lie to the people? I don't know why you guys can't just be straight up and honest. Why not? Why are you so scared of that? Why do you want to bury the truth and sit up here because you want people to think that you care about them? Because people believe that and they suffer because of you guys. I mean, look at Tijuana River Valley. It's an emergency still decades later. It's a crisis. Oh my gosh. Let's take care of it. Just like CO, right, Jim? And we stayed in the emergency for the money, right? It's so interesting to see the things you guys do. And then even the

water resources. Let's give people back their own sewage and call it pure water. So good. Woe to you guys. Who will protect us? You. You. who will protect us. We volunteer. That's why we are here to help you protect us. This is an era where we have to open our soul and heart and brain because this is the unseen enemy. something we drink from this glazed ceramics product supposed to be clean water supposed to be clean air supposed to be clean food are you helping us protect us this is all about all these items from A to Z every meeting and thank you there is just a hint of solving that Tijuana River toxic toxic water, land or soil, air after 1993 beginning crisis. APCD finally did the reading July of 2024 before chair Vargas stepped down. You know that mom reimer

and now we have here another governing board member Agiri and senior reamer. Let us decommission APCD and bring six good thinking people, logical reasoning people with the loose lu so that we could save money. Thank you. Hear us.

Good afternoon, uh, Chair Lawson Reamer and supervisors. Uh, my name is Michael King and I am a conservation organizer, uh, with the Sierra Club of San Diego. Uh, I wanted to speak to items one and two in support. Uh we strongly support both the uh Tijuana River Valley Layage restoration project and the setting the hearing for the Iron Mountain preserve expansion. Uh the lay project will restore habitat, improve air and water quality and bring muchneeded climate resilience to communities um like Imperial Beach and Sanro which have long faced environmental injustice. Um we are especially encouraged by the practical use of nature-based solutions in this project. Um and we similarly support uh expanding the Iron Mountain Preserve um which protects 380 acres of sensitive habitat and supports species like the Blaineville horned lizard and strengthens regional biodiversity under the multiecies conservation program. Uh both projects deliver real climate benefits while showing that conservation and smart growth can go hand in hand. Uh we urge you to move these efforts forward as critical investments in a region's environmental health and resilience. Thank you.

Thank you. We will now hear from those that requested to speak by phone. Again, when it's your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You will hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments. And we will go ahead and begin with our first caller. Let's remind everyone, Proposition 13 cut the finances to San Diego County. Now, knowing that, we could go ahead and regain some of that money to fix our infrastructure and make batteries that actually don't require slave us to export slave labor and, you know, destroying the environment to other countries. We could actually recycle the plastic, use the byproduct from the recycled plastic to create graphine batteries, carbon based batteries that you don't have to worry about the same fire issues than you have with lithium. They charge faster, last longer, and they're completely and utterly recyclable. If you guys actually believed in half the [ __ ] that you spill out, you would have adopted this years ago. when I first told you about it. But no, you're all [ __ ] [ __ ] and all you want to do is rip money from us and you think that there's not going to be bad consequences to these actions. You're going to allow our elections to still be fraudulent so that you can push these agendas through without any hesitation. You want to replace our CEO with an elected official because ebony sometimes completes against you. and you don't like that. So, you want to replace her, replace a person on top of the county with an elected official and have a legal team that could go after whoever the [ __ ] you want to. And you want to extend it for another four years, but

the same union that said we needed to have term limits. Now, we don't need term limits because you guys are sucking their [ __ ] apparently that you're willing to go in and do whatever the [ __ ] they tell you to do because you're their little [ __ ] That's the truth. Be honest with the people about that instead of [ __ ] hiding instead of blaming [ __ ] other people for your own [ __ ] mistakes.

Your time is up. We're going to our next caller. Paul um two so you are taking 2 million from the unlock the reserves of the iron mountain preserve the reserve should be used for emergencies for people not for land. This is a Cupid stupid take or a theft maybe. Um but even for land it's ridiculously expensive. 4.9 million 12 mil 12.9 per acre and then the appraised value is only 4.4 mil 500 less than you're buying it for. Wonder which real estate mogul will be profiting one. The Lage environmental remediation project in the TJ rally is good might even clear air a bit certainly reduce the amount of trash. Five Cameron corners given all the excess flour and other chemicals John the state seems to be allowing. Perhaps you need a better source for the grant. And how did the uranium get in the water? The state trying to poison us that way now. All I can say is that the program sounds good. Wish more information was attached. Golf Club Drive. I looked at it carefully. The project focuses on passive ecological water quality improvements through naturebased solutions. Looking at the map, I see no reason for

an elaborate uh water filtration system at the former golf course. Uh three, update on the energy supplies that we had here involving tribal governments and all energy conversations because they probably

Your time is up. We're going to go to our next caller. Hey, it's truth. Uh, item three. Who in Morago Springs wanted non-recyclable solar panels? Jim, his item doesn't say that happened. I bet if I asked the average person, they'd want to slap this board at hearing that overt lie. No wonder you voted yes to whatever the progressives wanted for Caesar Chavez. Pathetic. a contract with Colorado based nonprofit nonprofit Alliance for Sustainable Energy LLC who somehow has a 786 million budget yet doesn't have a working website. Weird, huh? Somehow they're overlooking the National Laboratory of the Rockies, previously known as the National Renewable Energy Lab, a national lab belonging to the US Department of Energy. So Trump does support the Green News scam then because if he didn't this tech would be shut down on a major scale especially because it benefits communist China who allegedly was Trump's enemy at one point. Remember that was like a couple months ago wasn't it? The item refers to including impact of no project options. What does that mean? The consideration of no project. Can we do that? Can we just do that and end this? the multi-million dollar studies at neighborhood or community scales to understand how projects could support or strain the existing infrastructure and grid. What a waste of tax dollars. If you don't know if solar panels can sustain even a small community, why would you waste money studying it? Why would you even pursue such a ridiculous goal? If it's going to strain the grid or not sustain the grid, why would you even consider that technology? It obviously doesn't work. You guys are absolutely ridiculous. And I have a question regarding the entire consent. Actually, if it's truly one meeting, why not equally split the agenda? Why are there still two agendas? Land use and general legislative, whatever it's called. Is it because

Terra's a liar who does everything she can to limit public comment? You guys need mental help. Seriously, we will go to our next caller. Okay, Gon Solo here. I didn't bring my paper and I'm in my car and I'm pulled over and I'm going to just have to recycle something for consent calendar. Wrong consent calendar. Correct. Correct.

Thank you, Ryan. Okay. So, with this consent calendar, um, just wanting to remind the people how government actually works. People continue to come here. Oh, all items, excuse me. People continue to come here asking, even begging government to do the right thing. Uh, but somewhere along the way, people have forgotten something very important. Government doesn't work for the people. They work for globalists. They work for an agenda. Um, and that's where we're at. Um, and what we continue to see is more and more homeless living on the streets, not in um, families struggling when they should be comfortable in their homes. Um, people who are not supported, um, you know, they're just p pushing to through eye. Let's see. At the same time, we watch government stand here and present solutions, programs, plans, initiatives. Um, but like everything else, yep, the the the word of the day is band-aid solutions, temporary fixes that have never that never seem to resolve the root of the problem because if the problems were truly solved, we know there would be nothing left to manage. Um, so instead, what happens? the issues get prolonged, kicked down the road, passed from one administration to the next, year after year, budget after budget. Meanwhile, the people continue to struggle. So, let's be clear, government does not resolve problems, they manage them. Um, that's sustainability, right? It sustains them and in any in many cases it expands them. And that um brings me to the hardest truth people need to hear.

Thank you. Your time is up and chair Lawson Reamer, that concludes public comment on the items on the consent agenda. Okay, thank you very much. Um, move a motion on the floor in a second. Can we please vote? And Chair Lawson Ramer, that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors who are present and voting I Okay. Um we will uh do item six which was pull from consent and then we'll go to close session. Uh do you need to leave right now or do you want to do close session? Okay. So we'll do item six and then we'll go to close session. Go ahead. Public comment.

Yeah.

All right. Thank you. Chair Lawson Reamer. We do have six total requests to speak. two individuals in person and four requesting to speak by phone. Also like to note for the record we did receive one e comment on this item which uh was in favor. For any individuals that have requested to speak on this item by phone, please call dial into the conference line now using the instructions that were provided to you. We will let's see go ahead and begin with our in-person speakers as I pull them up. I'd like to invite forward allegedly Audra and Caesar Javier. You will have two minutes to address the board. Since 1982, this plot of land has been held captive and we have to come to the board to release it back to the people that it was confiscated from. Which is interesting. It was supposed to be used to expand freeways. We know we don't want to be driving. Nobody should be driving. It's dangerous. It's incredibly dangerous. Pedophiles running rampant, on the other hand, is not. That's cool. We perpetuate that. But I mean, we got to get people out of their cars to save the planet. It's so smart. Um, and so we can't expand the freeways um and use this land for that. So, we're going to go ahead and give it back to the person that owns it after 43 years. and we have to come to the board of supervisors to do that. Is there anything that we don't have to like ask your permission to do? Like are we going to get charged just to take a [ __ ] later? Like is it going to be like do you need to go one or two? You're going to have to get a permit for that. We're not sure it's going to cost quite a bit if you have to like flush a couple of times. And yes, I'm talking about the easement, right, Tara? Yes. and how, you know, if we don't want to be driving and stuff, I

mean, that's a good reason to give it back, isn't it? I mean, wonder if you're going to take that guy's car if he continues to drive. What else? Like, what else can we give permits for? Breathing. I mean, is there going to be only a little bit of air that's going to be left? Is that something that you guys are going to be staffed to do to take our money and figure out how much air people would be allotted in a 24-hour period? And it's like if you use too much, you know, you're going to have to pay an extra fee. But you could give some like air credits to somebody else and they could use it. And then like if you fart too much, I mean, you're going to have to pay a little bit extra. Um, but you know, you could have somebody fart for you and then basically give you a credit for that. So business in the county is good. Good job, you guys. In memory of a warrior, Captain Beckham, Filipino American, if the reason for vacating this piece of land, Mlan news, listen please. Because your reasoning that you cannot help us erase or defeat toxicity in our neighborhood. You are deadly wrong. Unjust comment. It hurts us. Lu says no project, no program if it's not in accord with health and safety. You are wrong, ma'am. Please admit it. We forgive you. We are all humans. But the point here is let's just do something positive. No matter

how small like a golfer, you're playing too left or too right. We need this straight no matter how short. But straight analogy metaphor. We forgive you. Forgive us too. if only to vacate that space. We are given two choices. Build a green incinerator or build a green welldesigned landfill to throw out our waste and garbage fee which uh madame stiff is one of the conspiracy conspirator in the increase in our garbage fee. Right ma'am or the culprit in the under the table. What is that density issue? Put north seven. Try to recall history. Ma'am, we know that because we are here consistent to see where accountability lies and it lies in you guys, elected officials of the city of San Diego. Thank you, God. Help us.

Thank you. We will now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone. When it's your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You will hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments. And we will go ahead and begin with our first caller. Paul Bold. Um, this summary vacation of a highway slope easement in the Fbrook area. It uh sounds good after 42 years. It's uh long overdue. Well, I don't know what took so long to decide that no one actually needs it. Um, but knowing how slowly you guys work and what little imagination you put into some things, I can Yes. Anyway, uh it's a raw deal for the guy who has to pay 6,500 bucks to get his land back. Um I mean I don't even know if it's the same guy actually. Maybe it's a different guy who has to pay 6500 but which sucks. I mean, buy a property, pay a bit more to make sure the property's whole. I mean, gee, that doesn't sound very good at all. And um, you know, the idea of having to pay for basically what is a mistake that the county made in uh acquiring land that didn't need. I mean that that's you know like it's like finding someone for something he didn't

do and you know that you ought to split the cost at least. Um I think he should really absorb the cost. you know it your error. You ought to be have some grace about you know admitting it. Anyway, that's about all I have to say. Uh

your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker. So, are we talking about you guys stealing land from someone, not actually using it, not actually needing it, and then now giving it back? So, curiosity, what taxes is he going to have to pay on that land, today's value, or the value when you took it from him? I think it should go back to the value that you took it from him 45 years ago. I don't think you should pay additional taxes from the fact that you made everything cost 10 times as much money. I mean, isn't that what Proposition 13 is? Any corporation that wants to go ahead and build new do subdivisions and all that stuff, they get a locked in value and then they bring up the value of everywhere else. And so now it makes it more difficult for anyone doing additions or fixing up their houses because then they're going to have to pay an ungodly amount of taxes because of this project, right? I mean, so you're going to basically create slum lords all because, you know, you could get the money in a different fashion by recycling our plastic, by adopting Julian Brown and African-American kids technology, a kid that did it in 17. You could inspire a whole group of youth, but everything that you guys say is just [ __ ] talked. You're full of [ __ ] And I really cannot wait until the days of the people realize that.

Okay. Uh, this is your fifth time calling and being off topic, so your time is forfeited. Thank you. We

go to our next speaker. Okay, Glen Swellow here. So, let's see. Adopting a resolution. Okay. 40. Okay. 42 years later. Yeah, that sounds about right with government timing. Um, there's hope for the Tijana sewage issue. Yeah. Okay. So, I know I'm limited with timing and I am reminded with a message. It was a pop-up message that we rise by lifting others. So, let me let me rise a little bit and let me try and lift you all up. Here we go. If you claim to love your neighbor, you can't stay silent about the systems that crush them. And I love my neighbors. That's why I don't keep silent and I pay attention to these boring meetings. You must want for their family every good thing you want for yours. And I promise you that is what I want. I want that for everyone and for people to get their land back and for uh you know the the the wealth to go to where it belongs to the to the good people of the world not the cheaters, the liars, the scammers, pedophiles. Yeah. So, what other words of wisdom do I have here? Yeah, I think that's all I got. If you will ever get off that one, it's better to be labeled difficult than allow yourself to be treated like a doormat. We're not doormats, so stop treating us like that. taxpayer cattle.

We're more than that. People need to wake up to how powerful and how amazing they really are. I got one more.

Cheers to everyone. Your time is up. And Chair Lawson rumor, that concludes public comment on this item. Okay. Um, thank you very much. Um this was originally in consent. Uh supervisor had to recuse himself um because he had a conflict. Um so he is gone. We can go ahead and take a vote. I'm happy to make a motion. Okay. We have a motion in a second. Please vote.

And Chair Lawson Reamer, that motion passes unanimously with Supervisor Desmond recusing himself and all other supervisors who are present voting up. Okay. Um, so just a a kind of a brief on where what's next for today. We have remaining on our agenda, we have item number eight, item number 10, non-aggenda comment and adjournments in memory and close session. Um, we this is for my colleagues and the public's awareness. uh we are moving to a new model where we're trying to have a a little more clarity around um time of close session so that the external attorneys can plan accordingly. Uh so the time I I predicted for them was between 3 and 5 so we can continue on uh with this agenda for about another hour. Um but if we get if we're not done by about 4:30 we will have to re go into close session do close session and then come back. Okay. Um, does it make sense to everybody? Okay, great. So, we will go ahead and move on to item eight.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I pulled this item uh to underscore the significance and reiterate how essential these declarations of emergency are in addressing the long-standing public health crisis that's related to the Tijuana River. Last week, two sewage spills occurred in Mexico. The following days were absolutely horrendous for all of us living down there. Uh what's most concerning is that the levels of hydrogen sulfide far exceeded the state standards which is 30 parts per billion. APCD data recorded hourly averages near 500 parts per billion. And UCSD data showed spikes up to 2500 parts per billion. And I can tell you from my personal experience, I couldn't even escape the smell in my own living room. That's how severe these events were. Uh during the spikes, my office and county agencies moved quickly to respond. I want to express my gratitude to Health and Human Services and APCD staff for enhancing the alert system, extending hours to 1000 p.m. and beginning at 5:00 a.m., which normally it's more like 9 to5. uh just to make sure that people had that information before they went to bed or before they took their kids to school. At the state level, the law gives the governor the explicit authority to, and I quote, from the California Government Code section 8628, quote, "During a state of emergency, the governor may direct all agencies of the state government to utilize and employ state personnel, equipment, and facilities for the performance of any and all activities designed to prevent or aliate actual and threatened damage due to the emergency. Any agency so directed by the governor may expend any of the monies which have been appropriated in it to perform such activities irrespective of the

particular purpose for which the money was appropriated. End quote. So immediate immediate actions that could take place under this statute include infrastructure upgrades to Saturn Boulevard aka the hot spot in the Tuanora Valley, air purifiers or the most important one which is eliminating the source itself by diverting and treating the river so that we can actually begin to breathe. So, with that said, I'd like to take the opportunity of us considering this, I believe it's the 22nd iteration of the declaration of an emergency to add an amendment to the item, which would be to move the staff recommendation with the additional direction that when staff next forwards this proclamation to the state, it includes the following documents, which the state can also forward to the federal government. a summary of recent county efforts and projects to mitigate the Tijuana River Valley pollution crisis, including but not limited to the Saturn Boulevard hotspot feasibility study, the IDA purifier program enhancements, and an overview of pending epidemiological study and expanded syndronomic surveillance efforts, an overview of data and regional actions taken in response to recent hydrogen sulfide spikes exceeding established California Air Resources Board public health threshold. holds the United States Environmental Protection Agency and United States section of the International Boundary and Water Commission's joint record of decision for the final programmatic environmental impact statement and a number of different academic publications which I believe will be put up on the screen including some recent studies by a number of researchers such as Dr. Kim

Prather, Dr. Paula Granados from UCSD and SDSU. So, I'm hoping to have uh the support of my colleagues in this amendment. I cannot re reiterate enough how severe and just lifealtering this crisis continues to be, but how much it's impacting us, especially as we're seeing these heat waves that cause a lot of these gases to uh be compressed closer to people. And most importantly, I worry about the children that are being exposed to all of this. So, I'm hoping that with this renewed call for an declaration of a state of emergency and call to our governor for assistance, um perhaps he will listen. Thank you. Uh there's a motion on the floor. I'm happy to second. Um any other comments? Okay, go to public comment.

Thank you, chair lost rumor. We do have eight total requests to speak, two individuals in person, and three requesting to speak by phone. are two requesting to speak and person six requesting to speak by phone. Also like to note for the record we did receive two e comments on this item. One was in favor, one was in opposition. Uh for any individuals that have requested to speak on this item by phone, please dial into the conference line now using those instructions we provided to you. We'll go ahead and begin with the in-person speakers and I'd like to invite forward allegedly Audra and Caesar Javier. You will have two minutes to address the board. It's interesting when crises become a routine business, right? Or just put it on the consent calendar and get that passed. It's really a crisis. We're really working very hard for decades to get this solved. You guys are doing a good job, right? Good job. Air purifiers, good job, right? Studies, let's study it. Let's not really go to Mexico and have them stop it. Let's spend more of the people's money to get us to divert it instead of saying we're not going to do commerce with Mexico. But that would be taking money out of your guys' pockets. You can't do that. Poor Paloma couldn't even breathe in her own living room. What a shame. Maybe we could study that, Paloma. Maybe we could study your lungs and see. How about that? Might be interesting to see what you find. He won't find a heart, that's for sure. Um, yeah. I'm just wondering like how long people are going to have to suffer. How many more decades do you guys think this is going to be routine for? Like is it really considered a crisis after decades like that? I mean, good God. And you say you care about the children. You want to study the children. Let's see what this is doing to them. you know, I'll give them an air purifier so they can still kind of breathe the

air, but I can get in my data to, you know, make sure that we have data points, too. Why is it that, you know, you're not upset with the governor? If it was Trump, you would be like, oh my gosh, I cannot believe that he's doing this. We're going to have to do something about that, but you're like, let's send him a letter and see if he like wants to help us out. I mean, he might, right? I don't know. If you give him a [ __ ] he might. Who knows? Oh gosh. I'm just wondering, do you guys have a timeline for that? You wanted to give us new time updates. So, I'm wondering if we could have a time frame on when this crisis will be dealt with. Is there not enough money coming in yet? Yeah. Not enough people dying. They will eventually. It's cool. And then you guys can make money off of that. We need brave men and women. This is a warfare against survival. Region 9 or San Diego County is an independent powerhouse for the survival of San Dieagans. Why do we have to rely on others if we have this brain and hands and heart and soul? Why do we have to blame Uncle Sam? Why do we have to ask help from this goddamn governor? I'm ready to go to jail if only to tell the truth like what I did to the city hall who are accountable including you, Mom. 11 elected officials who neglected grossly ignored the very sign 33 years ago dissolved APCD

investigate and apprehend and punish these people to the full extent of the law not shooting because council Laba is threatened by the word shooting to the full extent of the law you should be accountable And if you cannot do the job, Mama Giri, 33 years, you have melt that mess in your nose. And yet, by God, by God, where is logic here? Where is our 10 fingers intelligences? Where are your five human dimensions? If I have to review, moms, sir, there is still time. Let's work together. Let's have this council go right in the side and legislate before the victims so that they will be inspired and bring back the trust to you. Why not? Aren't we ready? No. Because I might get sick. We need a force of law.

Thank you, sir. Your time is up. We'll now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone. When it's your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You will hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments. And we'll go ahead and begin with our first caller. Hi, you [ __ ] [ __ ] I don't understand why you have double standards based off of who's talking and what they're talking about whether or not you're going to kick them out and then you clearly let other people say whatever the hell they want. Um, you're a [ __ ] cop for that. And Paloma Paloma P whatever [ __ ] you are. That fake ass [ __ ] on the uh left. Yeah. No. Um, you don't give a rat's ass about the kids. Or else when some when a mother jumps through all the hoops to get her kids back, you don't. What you do is you go after the grandfather and have him throw try to throw them in jail. You care about the children. the children that want to be back with the family. No, you want to go ahead and get out the money that you're going to acquire from doing all the therapy because you're [ __ ] up with the kids. You're screwing them up in the head. You're creating You're creating them a victim class. That's what you're doing, you [ __ ] [ __ ] And the fact that you guys don't want to go ahead and look at the people registering people to cheat to keep you guys in office. Please

pause this time. I have been waiting and waiting patiently for any mention of anything related to the local emergency review proclamation of local emergency for US Mexico trans boundary pollution environmental crisis and related SQL exemption which is item eight which is the item we are on. This is the sixth time that you've called and been off topic. You have forfeited your time. Thank you. We'll go to our next speaker.

All the bold a 40year history showing how much the county cares about this TJ River pollution crisis. Um so it the crisis now spreading countywide. This is more than a crisis, more than an emergency like it's an inaction almost. But your has been mostly to seek external resources which takes months or and years um if it even comes uh since the feds and state are both pretty busted. Um, we need local action which would be quicker. It the crisis is affecting people's daily lives daily. People are getting sick or worse. You mentioned local efforts in the last paragraph. We need action now, not in the future. Not when Congress or the state can find the money to act. Mrs. Peterman pointed out yesterday in item 19 by the way that there is pollution from the US. So let's refocus on all of the polluters. I previously mentioned several possible solutions like handheld pollution monitors to find out exactly which buildings and where the pollution coming from. Look them up. But I cannot support the continuation of what is essentially an industry based on promoting the emergency rather than fixing it. Hopefully the Navy's TJ River with a

restoration project will improve the air and a you worry so much about the children. They probably are fostered.

Your time is up. We'll go to our next caller. Hey, it's Truth. I'm gonna ask Sheriff Terra, please keep Manuela on topic during every item because Joel Anfield was not an agenda item today. Now, apparently Manuela has been smelling Mexico sewage down there in La Mesa. I didn't know you could do that. We know why Manuela had to pull this item. Not only does she love to hear herself deliver boring 20inute monologues to nowhere that we all just ignore anyway, but because she's got a whine about Trump for the 100th time today. She's as bad as a def as the deflector Sean Alo, fellow working family communist party member. And I was going to ask where's Prat? She's always wheeled out for Manuela's political theater show, but this time she just gets featured as a study profiter as part of a last minute agenda item change. Mexico sewage, which has been killing American citizens for decades, is addressed way less by Manuela than how much she addresses ICE and illegal aliens priorities. Things are yet again getting worse with no 100% solution. Zeldon Insight, the hydrogen sulfide numbers off the charts. And yet the county, APCD, and MMO refused to ask the federal government for help because the bubbles actually worked. When they stopped the bubbles, things skyrocketed by about 10 times. All you got are Norris air purifier scam. While people's health deteriorates continues to grift off the sewage crisis industrial complex while pedalling the fake solution of a state of emergency for like the 19th time. Pretty sure Newsome's made it clear for at least the sixth year in a row that he doesn't care just like Manuela doesn't care that the primary source of pollution is not the river but Mexico sewage that pollutes the river and the South Bay ocean outfall. No, Manuela and her mentor Sledgeina. It's part of the reason why there's more sewage hitting the ocean than ever before. People in Imperial Beach can never forget at a council meeting last year when Manuela did everything she could to vote no on real

solutions to the sewage. She was too concerned with protecting Mexico, the country she pretends to be born in. We've heard your two-way stories. So, my mala can take her finger motions and shove them where transparency doesn't shine. Have a good day.

Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker. Oh yeah, right on. Okay, here we go. Stool here. um you know paying attention you get to see the pattern of uh how different government agencies in the county operate and um you know within with this item you guys have been given so many uh ideas for solutions and you like I've said in the past you have the technology you have had the the the money and it doesn't really take much man honestly like it's like you know from it's you know what we have a crisis of here we go Ignorance is the real crisis from from from you guys from local federal state government and from the tax cattle indentured servants quite frankly I mean ignorance is everywhere and blind faith blind trust I mean people continue to trust you and they're like you know it's like they haven't caught on to hey they're pitting us against each other. You know what I'm saying? And quite frankly, you guys signed up for this job. So, all the pounding you're getting today, Tara, it's you know what, girlfriend, you you deserve it. You deserve it. You are a liar and you're not going to be there long, just like Nora, just like Nathan. And um you know, if things could be different, you know, I chimed into a LAFC meeting for the first time a a bit ago, and I didn't even know LAFC existed, let's put it that way. But uh for the very first time ever in any government meeting uh within the county uh yeah for the first time there was a man presenting and he actually engaged and acknowledged and said my name and

there was actual like dialogue and it was just like so refreshing because that's how it could be. But instead, it's like you guys want to act like the freaking victims, like a typical, you know, it's just you guys want to play this part like we're just coming at you, but you don't listen. And that's the Your time is up and Chair Lawson Reamer, that concludes public comment on this item.

Um, okay. Thank you so much. Um, we have a motion and a second. We can go ahead and vote. and chair lo chair Lawson Reamer that motion chair Lawson Chair Lawson Reamer that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors who are present voting act. Okay, thank you so much. Um item number 10, general plan annual progress report. We'll go ahead and take this. Okay, chair, we have a brief presentation and I'll go ahead and turn it over to staff. Thank you.

Good afternoon. Today we are presenting the 2025 general plan and housing element annual progress report. This report provides an update on housing production and housing element implementation over the past year. Overall, the county continues to make strong progress towards meeting its regional housing needs allocation or arena. The county has exceeded its goals in the low, moderate, and above moderate income categories. However, production of very low-income housing remains a challenge with only 28% of the required allocation achieved to date. Housing production naturally fluctuates year-toear, but we are still seeing development in the unincorporated communities. The county's reena share for the unincorporated area is 6,700 units. This graph shows how those units are divided across the affordability categories. These numbers reflect the total numbers of units assigned under each category. Within our very low category, we also track housing affordable to our lowest income residents, including acutely and extremely lowincome households. The process for developing new housing starts when an application is submitted for a housing development project. Some applications require a discretionary review process, while others move to a ministerial building permit review process. Discretionary projects generally take longer and can be more expensive because they typically require environmental review and may require a public hearing before receiving approval. On the other hand, the ministerial process is generally faster and less expensive with less review involved. Recent state law and county initiatives have expanded the types of projects that are ministerial, making it easier to build housing. After a project application is approved, the next step is to apply for a building permit. Lastly, after the home is built, the county inspects it for safety, and it passes final inspection. It is ready for move in. This process can vary in length depending on the project, but most projects do not move through all three steps within the same year.

In 2025, eight applications associated with 471 units successfully completed review and were approved by the county. These approved projects are now ready to move forward into the building permit stage. Looking ahead, 30 new applications were submitted to the county for 489 housing units pending review. 932 housing units in the unincorporated area were issued building permits, allowing construction to move forward. A total of 943 new homes in the unincorporated area completed construction and were ready for move in.

This bar graph shows our arena progress since 2021. The yellow lines represent our assigned arena for each income category. Now, we'll focus on how the housing units that were issued building permits in 2025 contributed to that progress. 597 units were considered affordable to above moderate income households. 94 units were affordable to moderate income households. 165 units were affordable for lowincome households. We've exceeded our allocation in all three of these categories. 76 units were affordable to the very lowincome households, including 42 units for extremely low income. That puts us at just 28% of our goal for this category. These units are typically the hardest to build because they often require subsidies from the county or other government programs. Overall, we're halfway through the 8-year arena, and we've reached our 98 98% of our total goal for permitted units. Now, HCDS will discuss county efforts for affordable housing in the unincorporated communities as well as the region.

Thank you, Heather. During the six cycle housing element, the county invested more than $32 million towards five affordable housing developments in unincorporated communities, resulting in 338 units. Of these, 123 units are complete and 215 are underway. La Sabila is the first development in unincorporated San Diego County to include permanent supportive housing funded in part by the no place like home program. The county also funded Marisol Meadows in Fbrook which is under construction and will add 54 new affordable senior units. It is important to recognize that Reno Progress does not fully capture the county's broader regional impact on affordable housing. Regionally, HCDS has invested over $237 million in affordable housing during this reena cycle. This includes 2,68 very low and extremely low income units that are already completed and occupied. 550 are under construction and 97 units in the pipeline are in the pipeline as of December 31st, 2025. Thank you. In November of last year, the board hosted the housing forward workshop to reflect on progress, reaffirming policy priorities and identify opportunities to advance housing solutions. Participants emphasized the need for greater zoning clarity and streamlined development processes, village focused infill and VMT efficient growth, innovation and non-traditional housing models, protections for renters and preservation of existing naturally occurring affordable housing and stronger regional housing partnerships. Acknowledging that housing challenges cross jurisdictional boundaries, we've continued to engage many of the stakeholders who participated in the housing workshop, including one-on-one discussions and a

stakeholder roundt to gather feedback on specific initiatives. The county has been advancing a series of housing initiatives that align with the feedback received at the workshop. So far this year, we've brought forward the separate sale of accessory dwelling units ordinance, which is the first of four housing related zoning ordinance amendments for this year. We additionally amendments will include options related to ADU ownership and the right of first refusal, the inclusionary housing ordinance, and the first phase of housing unlocked, which will address zoning barriers to facilitate the development vision of the general plan. This summer, we'll also return with a discussion on VMT mitigation options, the sustainable land use framework, and a housing workshop led by a partners at Housing and Community Development Services. The second phase of housing unlocked and additional housing related updates are anticipated to continue into 2027. In closing, staff recommends that the board of supervisors find that today's actions are not subject to SQA and accept the 2025 general plan and housing ele housing element annual progress report. This concludes our presentation and staff is available to answer any questions.

Any questions? Okay, we'll go to public comment. Thank you, Chair Lawson. Remember, we have nine total requests to speak, three individuals in person, six requesting to speak by phone. also like to note for the record, we did receive one e-com e comment on this item which was in opposition. For any of the individuals that requested on to speak on this item by phone, please dial in the conference line now using the instructions that were provided to you. We'll go ahead and begin with the in-person speakers like to invite forward allegedly Audra Caesar Javier and Katherine Rhodess. You'll have two minutes to address the board.

You guys need over 100,000 homes. Good job. Right. And I feel like I mean 132% 28% for the ones you guys need the most. Good job. Right. The lowinccome, we're doing a really good service to them. What I'm thinking is that you guys are looking at this the wrong way and I feel like it's a little xenophobic. What I think is that we need to understand there are a lot of undocumented immigrants in this county and how many of them need a home and how long is it taking you guys to provide these homes? So I think if we put that in the forefront because it's very xenophobic and you know bigotry to not address this and make sure that we're getting these people into homes, right? I mean that's pretty disgraceful to have them come to our country and we don't just give them whatever they want. So, I feel that you guys could probably speed up this process if you made that part of like a motion to make sure that we're going to ensure that all of the undocumented immigrants in San Diego County are going to get into these homes lickety split. You could totally exempt the squa. Forget about the permits. Just build, you know what, have them build them. I'm sure that they would help and they would probably like that because they would be also having a job, right? So, I mean, I feel like you guys are actually being really racist by not doing that. And it's a disgrace to have these children suffer like that. You guys care about the children. So, I mean, instead of slapping them in the face by going, "We don't have anything for you." I think you guys need to get on this licickety split there. We're on a time crunch. Okay. So, I think you guys could probably provide thousands of homes in like what especially if they helped um probably a couple months. So, I think that you guys need to chop chop on this

uh because it looks very disgraceful when our community stands for this kind of uh help with these people.

Okay. We have been discussing from birth to grave how San Dieans will thrive from that particular period handed down by the Almighty. Housing sheltering is the second element if I may just explain that way in urban or I mean rural and urban planning right engineers urban planners we share the same ideas and as we live here since 1999 as an immigrant by choice and by affection handed to us by uncle Sam we only see learn and teach. Unfortunately, my graduate studies in education has not been paid fully. My tuition fee is still there hanging and I cannot pay it. But now, Uncle Sam knows that I am still teaching. I hope it could be written off. We must learn because all our intentions is a I mean it is being uh destroyed by this political virus we name uh Ilo Rivera the classmate of uh uh Madame Mist uh Western uh Law School. You know this guy he's trying to be the mayor campaigning as mayor. What is a house when no one is there? What is this painted buildings beautiful architecturally

created by hands by San Dieagans? These are all business. They have the money. Our lawful authorities approve because there is that kickback and that's where you live and that's why you are here and that's why you wanted to stay here. Step down. Step down if you cannot do your job. Thank you.

Thank you. Uh hello Katherine Rhodess and I came here today with city council district 2 candidate Mandy Havoc this morning for non-aggenda public comment but we'll talk about that and mainly because there are some Claremont seniors that are living on your property on Mount Edna Drive that are the red got put up 10% um this is within their first year of actually living in your property on Mount Edna Drive. So on um in your report here page 8170 you have of your general plan housing element annual progress report you have the address of 5255 MNA drive and here you have 404 affordable housing units that you had some of these units I think like 65 are for people with mental retardation. You guys have a disposition and development agreement with Chelsea Investment. Um, and then you have agreements with the San Diego Housing Commission. And the San Diego Housing Commission, you know, said they're going to give you, I believe, 300 vouchers for this. Instead of giving you 300 vouchers and giving these people some um, you know, not stressing them out, they've given letters to basically said if you can't pay your rent, you're going to be homeless. That's not cool. And um I would like some help from my um my supervisor Tara Lawson Reamer. I believe that you're in charge of um the Claremont area too. And so what we're looking for is to have a meeting with you and county staff um so that we can help these seniors and these people with mental retardation um not have all the stress they're having right now. They're crying. Um they're trying to get the media involved, but they can't get any help. And then, you know, the faith-based community wants to have tiny

homes on their property using Yes and God's Backyard, but um county staff didn't allow um basically they said, "We're not going to give you any money for kitchens or bathrooms or or um any type of um money to, you know, plan it for like a year. We have solutions. We could give you all your extremely low income goals." Thank you.

Thank you. We will now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone. Again, when it's your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. Then you'll hear recording to tell you to begin your comments. And we will go ahead and begin with our first caller. Paul, you are our first caller. You're connected. Your device may be muted. Oh, hold on. I see what's going on. Our phone line is disconnected. One second while I troubleshoot this. All right, we look connected. So now we will go ahead and that caller just left. Okay, so for any of the callers that just left the queue, it is your turn to call back in. We will go ahead and give you a moment to do so since we had some tech technical difficulties. All right, here's our first caller. Unmuting them.

Item number 10, building new houses and all that stuff, which is a load of crop crap. We don't need more houses. Look at how many houses over there. If you want to go ahead and help people out, how about reduce our taxes? I have a great idea. If we were to recycle our plastic because our landfill is going to overflow within 5 years if you sit on your ass and do nothing about it, which clearly that's your plan. You could recycle the plastic right here, right now, and create revenue so you don't have to tax the people. Maybe some people that would that that would not need assistance if you did not try to take every single penny from them.

Okay, please pause. But for some [ __ ] reason. This is the 2025. This is the 2025 general plan housing element annual progress report and leak related secret exemption. It is not about plastic uh or recycling. So uh you have now forfeited your time. Um this is your seventh time calling in in this meeting speaking off topic. Thank you.

Okay, we'll go to our next caller. All about the housing agency does not support the building of cheaper housing than conventional which is quicker to build 3D printed uh set tiny homes, shipping crate homes, maybe adobe homes. As we keep telling you, these would not only be cheaper, but also keep up with the market for new homes better instead of house that might not be built for years. And then it would be less likely to end up with over supply of houses. There also needs to be more than five% in my per HUD. And this is what needs to be guaranteed, not below 50% of or up or the developer can kind of pick and choose whom to let in. Hasn't happened yet. The chart on page A25 uh shows no completed for equally in persons and then 21 for extremely. The housing agency needs to better the affordability or homeless crisis. Apparently, the housing agency is enthralled to big developers like Black Rockck who have more interest in profit than people. Here's something funny. The agency papers quote coordination and outreach with developers, buildings, and property owners end quote on page 828 buildings. I guess the people in them

don't count. The number of house for homeless people in this county is ridiculous. The housing agency is part of this. I do not approve of its plan or your time is up and chair Lawson Reamer that concludes public comment on this item. Okay. Uh vice chair Montgomery step.

Thank you so much. Thank you for the presentation everyone and PDS and HHSA and um all the various departments that have to come together uh for this update. Um, I know that, uh, Planning Development Services in particular has been busy tracking all of the state planning and zoning initiatives. We appreciate that. And it's also encouraging to see that the county is on track to meet the 98% of its RENA allocation goals, especially uh, going beyond the low-income housing allocation at 116%. Um, I I understand that the very lowincome and extremely lowincome areas are very challenging. Um, but I do still think that we need to have a conversation about land trust, um, and other things that we haven't necessarily explored too much yet that will that could um, address the challenges of construction cost um, and other related other costs related to permitting and housing development. Um, as I mentioned before, I think it's a great opportunity to still utilize the County of San Diego and City of San Diego joint re uh resolution that was done years ago to create the 10,000 affordable units um on government owned land to address such costs. Um, I will take this time to say for the Mount Edna um property, I know that we heard from two gentlemen who came in uh last month and um that uh there has been some interaction with county staff, but I just want to say as a general matter, I don't know what happened um with regard to our agreements that we had with other cities and developers prior to me being here. I think it's an awesome thing that we provide that land as our contribution uh to promote affordable housing, but I if if there is a 10% um increase in rent after one year, um that's a very big issue for me. And so I know I don't think that we're necessarily involved in that aspect of it, but I I I do think we

should maybe look moving forward as to putting additional parameters on any land that we are giving away. um because that uh that is not right and technically Mount Edna and that part of Claremont is is in district four. So I just wanted to take that weight off because um we have been communicating and um and that is in district 4. I've been there for the you know ribbon cutings and all of that but I want to be make I want to make sure that I'm representing something that gives people um the longevity that they need as far as costs are concerned. So, okay, with that, um, I'm happy to move this item forward. Um, and thank you for for all of the work.

Okay, we have a motion. I'm happy to second. Any additional comments? Um, okay, we can go ahead and take a vote. And Chair Lawson rumor, that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors who are present voting. Okay, thank you all very much. Uh we'll now go to uh board committee report backs. I just have a couple chair. Okay.

I'll I'll try to be quick. Uh not necessarily uh committee type updates, but two important updates that I like to share. Um as you've heard me say a couple of times in the last couple days. Um last week I went to Sacramento to participate in a county of San Diego lobby day on HR1. I met with uh deputy cabinet secretary uh Richard Figureroa and eight members of our San Diego delegation. I reminded them that we have nearly one million residents on medical and that HR1 will have significant consequences for them. Um I asked that they helped help us with three things. First, we need a trained and sufficient workforce to timely and accurately enroll people in medical and calresh twice a year as will be required by HR1. Second, we need investments in indigent care to ensure that low-income adults who lose health care coverage still have a safety net. And third, we need investments in behavioral health to address the loss of federal funds for those requiring behavioral health services. I know that organizations like SEESAC and UCCC are working on this, too. But I do think that we as the county of San Diego cannot and should not sit back and just wait to see what happens. We need to advocate for ourselves too as the second largest county in the state. And I hope that all of us uh that is what all of us do that all of us do what we can to make sure we get the funding that we need to make sure our residents who rely on medical can have uh food on the table and get their necessarily health care necessary healthcare. Uh for the second thing real quick also wanted to share some exciting news. Last week, the California Transportation Commission approved the sale of the property on Troy Street in Lim Grove to the county of San Diego. This was the final step that was needed for us to purchase the land and start construction of the sleeping cabins. I want to thank county staff, especially uh Scott Chrisman and Deanna Beck, who went all the way up to Malibu to attend the CTC meeting in person for all of

their hard work during the last two years to help us get here. Also want to thank our community partners, Father Joe's Villages, the Regional Task Force on Homelessness, Jewish Family Services, and PATH for supporting this project at the CTC meeting. Uh it takes all of us working as a team to move projects like this forward, especially given all the obstacles that were in our way. Um and speaking of working as a team, I sincerely want to thank my team and especially Joshua Dunn for all of their hard work. There were times when it would have been easy to give up, but we didn't. and we pushed ahead. There's still a lot more work to be done to get the sleeping cabins up and running for our unhoused community members, but I wanted to take a moment and celebrate this news with all of you and to thank my colleagues as well for your continued support of the Troy Street Sleeping Cabins project. Thank you so much.

Okay, thank you. Um, how many uh individuals do we have uh for non-aggenda public comment? We have four left, chair. Okay. So, we'll do non-judgmental public comment and then we will adjourn in me do any adjournments in memory. Then we'll go to close session.

Thank you, Chair Lawson Ramer. Like it noted, we do have four requests uh left for non-aggenda public comment. Two of those coming via person, two of those coming via phone. So, for anyone that has requested to speak via phone, if you could please dial into the conference line now with the instructions that were provided to you. We will go ahead and begin with the in-person speakers. I'd like to invite forward to the podium Caesar Javier and Katherine Rhodess. You'll each have two minutes to address the board. As we go deeper in our experience, you know, we we we are hard. We were and we are and we will be heard. Not until the APC, the city of San Diego elected officials will exist in this region. They should step down and there is a long line of willing public servants. Mama, Mom Remer, you are with the APCD. Your classmates Rivera, then now Dr. Campbell who cannot eradicate or clean up the city hall of urine. They should have been cited for pollution. But because they are member the governing board, they are free. No massage of uh penalty. In our case, we have presented our case. They came to our home. I volunteered our property for them to set up the smelling equipment.

They didn't do it up to now. And as we have said, go defer. This is a uh environmental hazards that should be the priority program of the county, the city or any agency for the sake of San Dieans. Our question is when do we solve this environmental hazards which is killing us? Your your child mom remer on your lap is now contaminated. It's in here. Mom uh Agir, your body is contaminated. Mom step. Oh, very stiff. Sorry. You are now contaminated because of the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat. Let's wake up.

Thank you, sir. Let's help one another. Thank God.

Hello. This is Katherine Rhodess and I want to just mention, you know, yesterday you had your consumer fairness and public protection unit that could actually look into his toxic waste problem that he's been coming everywhere for years. Please actually look into it. Please help him out. He's begging for help. Now you can actually help him because the DA will do nothing. Please look into it. Please. Um so anyway, thank you um um Supervisor Montgomery Step for um saying that it does in your district. you know, when it first came here, probably about seven years ago as surplus property, um, and you guys were going to give gift it gift it to San Diego Housing Commission, I came here and said, "Please do not do that. Please do not do that. Please keep the land as yourself. Keep ownership of the land and just lease it out." And thank goodness that's what you guys did. You kept ownership. You own Mount Edna. You own those 403 units. It's not owned by the San Diego Housing Commission. They have to do what you want them to do. um you know, you you have so much power on this and so um they're going above your heads without telling you about what they're doing with your property and they're messing with these um people who have mental retardation. They're messing with these seniors. They're they're um jacking up their rents 10%. Um people say they're they're you know they don't have anything to do um do. They have so many problems. They have problems with all their parking spaces is being rent out or I guess they rented out parking spaces to SDG& in order to make money for EV spaces. Um they're making money off the backs of poor people. They're not supposed to be doing that. You put in $59 million into this project. San Diego Housing Commission put in a measily like six million and the rest were the um state tax credits. This is your project, not their project. You can actually help them. so much and um we're

we just um Mandy Havoc and I came here to beg for help and please um give it to your um CEO. Thank you. Thank you. And chair Lawson Reamer not seeing any of the phone callers connected. That concludes the request for non-aggenda public communication this afternoon. Okay. Thank you all very much. Um do we have any adjournments in memory? Okay, go ahead.

Thank Thank you, Chair. Um, I would like to adjourn today's meeting in memory of daughter, sister, auntie, and friend Alex Samantha Libby. Um, who passed away after a courageous battle with cancer. Alex was born on September 26, 1991. And from the very beginning, she rad radiated strength, love, kindness, and a light that naturally drew people to her. She was beautiful inside and out, always thoughtful and genuinely engaging. She also had a signature love for all shades of pink. Whether it was hot pink, light pink, shimmer pink, and sparkle pink, the colors she loved reflected the vibrancy and joy she carried with her everyday. Alex had a remarkable way of connecting with others, forming friendships wherever she went. From San Diego to Washington DC to Hawaii, Alex loved people and people loved her in return. Whether at the beach, the park, a casual lunch, or family gathering, she had a way of making you feel that you'd known her all your life. Alex lived her life with intention and found joy in the simple but meaningful moments. She enjoyed sunsets, music, the ocean, and deep conversations with friends and even strangers. She cherished her role as auntie to her nieces Ava and Clara. Claire, adored her cat, Riz, and found happiness in the music of artists like Chappelle Ron and Lola Young. Most of all, she treasured time spent with the people that she loved. Alex was a graduate of San Diego State University and a proud Aztec. She worked alongside her sister Kimberly Miller at Miller Public Affairs where she not only contributed professionally but also built lasting friendships with colleagues, clients, and community members.

Alex commitment to service was evident in the many organizations and communities she supported. She was active with the Ocean Discovery Institute, the San Diego and Imperial Counties Labor Council, the San Diego Futures Foundation and neighborhoods such as City Heights, Hamul, Linda Vista, and Mission Bay. She also gave her time to food and toy drives and held a special place in her heart for Lincoln High School and the Hive. Alex was a giver of light and love. Her family and friends were truly blessed to have her. She was a loving daughter, sister, auntie, niece, sister-in-law, cousin, and friend whose presence made every space brighter. Though cancer ultimately took her life, Alex faced it with faith and courage. She was not afraid, finding peace in her belief that she was going to heaven. Alex is survived by her loving family, her wide circle of friends, and all those whose lives she touched. We extend our deepest condolences to them. May her memory be a blessing to all that knew her. Thank you.

Thank you. Um we now proceed to close session. The board will now recess into close session to consider those matters listed under item 30 on yesterday's agenda as well as item one on yesterday's fire protection agenda. If there are any reportable actions, they will be reported out at the end of today's session. The next regular meeting of the board will take place on April 21st at 10:00 a.m.