Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Monday, October 20, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
San Angelo, TX
Meeting Date
October 20, 2025

Transcript

75 sections (from 229 segments)

0:00 – 0:35Speaker 1

the planning commission today, Monday, October 20th. It is 9:02 a.m. Uh we are going to start with public comment. Any issues or concerns not on the regular agenda may be raised by the public at this time. Citizens should speak from the podium, address all comments to the dis and begin by stating their name, address, or single member district. Uh we are going to limit our remarks to less than three minutes. So public comment is officially open if anyone has anything they'd like to say. We do not have anybody signed up.

0:33 – 1:12Speaker 1

Wonderful. Thanks Ray. So on that note, we will close public comment and we will be moving to the consent agend consent agenda. Uh the commission may request for a consent agenda item to be moved to the regular agenda for presentation of public comment. Otherwise, the consent agenda will be considered in one vote. All items on the consent agenda have been recommended for approval by staff with no opposition received to date. Some of the items on the consent agenda might require public hearing. The commission will accept the public comment on any item on the consent agenda in one public hearing.

1:12 – 1:55Speaker 1

And then do I make a motion to approve the consent agenda? I can't remember. I'm sorry. Whoever need I'll make a motion to approve. Thank you. So, we've got a motion from Linda or Lynden, second from Candy. Um, if we can all say we agree. Let's move forward. I Okay, that's 50 on consent agenda and we will move forward on meeting minutes. Um, we're considering to approve the meeting minutes from September 15, 2025. Does anyone on the planning st or commission have any um objection to the minutes that were provided?

1:53 – 2:38Speaker 1

I'll make a motion to approve the September 15th, 2025 minutes. Second. All right. I've got a motion by Candy, a second by Lynden. So, meeting minutes are approved. Moving along to the regular agenda. We are going through subdivision plats first. The planning commission has a final authority uh for approval. Appeals may may be made directly to city council. Um item one is FP25-23 Shriner's Point Section 3, a request for final plat of the Shriner's Point Section 3 located at Blum Street and Limley Lane and Limley Lane and Fleming Street.

2:34 – 3:54Speaker 1

Good morning, Ray Linbury, lead planner. So this morning, this is section three of Shriner's Point. Um it is just uh continuing on the Shriner's Point area. Um so it is 5.033 acres. It is under a PD. Um the district is Joseph and it is Lake View neighborhood. They are creating residential lots. Um single family and this is what it looks like. Limley Lane will be new. They will continue with Blum Street and I believe me go back. Fleming is new. Um the zoning is incorrect. It is no longer RS1. It is under a PD and the vision plan is neighborhood. So with that staff is recommending approval that they submit plans for the local roads. They do the water main and required connections, the sewer main and connections, a drainage study, and that they do submit a revised plan showing a temporary turnaround or a turnaround. And then the note that they make the fire hydrant and fire department access statement. Okay,

3:52 – 4:31Speaker 1

with that, is there any questions? Any questions from for Ray? Okay, perfect. Thank you, Ray. Then Russell Gully is signed up for public. So uh we will open up for public comment. It's okay. Erica Wy engineering and surveying. Can we go back to the plat? Oh, sorry. I don't know how to do that.

4:32 – 5:16Speaker 1

Okay. So, the temporary turnaround is do those not I'm I'm confused by that. I'm sorry. I'm just I You know what? We'll work that out with staff. Um, we just asked that uh I said we'll work that out with staff. Okay. We just ask that you approve as presented. You're easy. Yes. Okay. Do we have any other public comment? Okay. So, we'll close public comment and open it up for discussion or a vote. I'll make a motion to second. I'll make a motion to approve as this the city is presented.

5:14 – 5:28Speaker 1

Okay. So motion by Lyndon, second by Liz. And with that, all in favor? All in favor? I.

5:24 – 7:24Speaker 1

Okay. So that 5-0. All right. So we will move on to item number two, RP25-23, Park View Acres. A request for fifth for the fifth replat parkview acres block 22 section 6 two acres lo located located at Ben Fickland Road in Kimry Lane with a variance request to widen the street by a portion of the full required incremental half of the width without curving Gunner. Good morning Ray Lineberry again lead planner. This one is taking a lot off of Ben Fickland and Camry, that um big single lot and making it two. Um it is two acres. They are splitting it into one acre each. It is in district 1, Tommy Heert, Glennmore neighborhood. Um it is zoned R& Ranch and Estate and the vision plan is neighborhood. This is the plat. The plat with the current house on it. the zoning and the vision plan. And then I took pictures because they have a variance request on um curb and gutter and the paving with technically is 31 instead of 36. The standard um I believe Ben Ficklin it does not have a curb it looks unless it's a layown curb. I'm learning a lot about curbs. But they have requested a variance on the curb and gutter and their incremental half to widen the road. They have asked the same thing on Kimry. Oh, I might have had the pictures messed up. I wonder if this is Ben Ficklin. Oh, this is Kimry. Okay. Okay. So, um Kimry

7:20 – 8:09Speaker 1

is not uh paved as much. It is 21 instead of 26. Um and they are requesting to not have to curb So with that, staff is recommending approval of the plat and both the variances um with the conditions that um well the conditions are still that they pave both Ben Fickland and Camry up to the standard um and install curb and gutter. They have requested a variance for both of those um and then to install water and wastewater service lines to the new lot. Okay, thank you, Ray.

8:04Speaker 1

Go ahead and open public comment.

8:10 – 9:01Speaker 1

Good morning. Russell with SKG Engineering. Miss Kimry is looking to divide her property with the passing of her husband and her getting up in age. She's looking to have her daughter and her husband move back. So, she's just looking to divide the family homestead into two lots so that her daughter and son can move next. And they're going to they're going to front um Ben Ficklin with their new home and the way the the plots lay out. So, with that, we would ask for your approval um of the variances which would satisfy conditions 1, 2, 4, and five. and then she's she will or her build or someone will go ahead and get the um water and sewer service taps paid for to satisfy condition three. So we'd be happy to answer any questions and ask for your appro appro approval as presented with the variances approved as well.

8:59 – 9:28Speaker 1

Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Do we have any other public Okay. Perfect. We'll go ahead and close public comment and open for discussion or motion. Make a motion to approve. Second. Okay, we've got motion by Liz, second by Lyndon. All in favor? I. All right. 5-0.

9:23 – 9:45Speaker 1

And we will move forward to RP25-25 Caldwell Rose Court edition. a request to replplat one lot into four lots over 61 acres within the single family residential zoning district at the intersection of Grape Creek Road and West 36th Street.

9:43 – 11:42Speaker 1

Good morning, Planning Commission. Aaron Venoy, director of planning development services. We have this uh replat here uh in Caldwell's Rose Court edition. Uh we are going uh to replplat the 61 acres. It is RS1 single family residential. The address right now is on 36th Street. It being 216 West 36th Street. That will change and the addresses will come off of Great Creek. This is SMD number two, Mr. Joe Self and Riverside uh neighborhood. You can see the image there uh right along Great Creek and 36. Uh this is just a good infill redevelopment project. So I have it laid out here just a little bit different so that you can kind of see the lots. This is 36 on that side and of course Grape Creek to the top. But they're creating these four lots here uh coming across here. One thing I did want to mention is that they're showing a 15t building line. Our RS1 is 25 foot and so they are they do have a case that will be pending in front of the planning commission to resolve that as well as this double front or double uh excuse me yes double frontage over here and allowing a 10-ft building set back while they still have the ride ofway. So I just wanted to point those things out on the plat doesn't affect the plat at this case um for those four lots to move forward. It is neighborhood for the vision plan. It is RS1 for the zoning. This is just the looking to the north on your right and looking to the west on your left. Uh you can see the property there is a nice big property. Uh nice curb and gutter. Streets are all to the right standard. Uh very simple case of creating four lots. Uh creating some new housing in that area. So staff does recommend approval of RP25-25. It's just simple um removing the setback distances off the plat and then install ne necessary utility service connections

11:40 – 12:18Speaker 1

to those lots. With that, I'll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Aaron. Anyone have questions for Aaron? All right, we will open up for public comment. This one is Erica Wy. Okay. Erica Wy willy engineering and surveying. And um Aaron pretty much summed it all up. So I just asked for um approval as presented. If y'all have any questions, I'm available.

12:15 – 12:39Speaker 1

Thank you. Anyone questions? Nope. All right. You're free. We have any other public comment? Okay. We will go ahead and close public comment and open up for discussion or a vote. Motion to approve. Okay. Second. Okay. Motion by Patrick, second by Lyndon. All in favor? I.

12:37 – 13:10Speaker 1

All right, Candy. That was an I. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. That's 5-0. Thank you so much. Okay. RP25-26, Lake View Edition, block 21, a request to replplat two lots into four lots over457 acres within the single family residential zoning district at the intersection of Travis Street and East 47th Street as well as a variance request for paving width and curbing gutter on Travis Street.

13:09 – 15:06Speaker 1

Thank you again, Aaron Venoid, uh, director of planning development services. This is a 43 plat in block 21 of the Lake View edition. Um you can see there at Travis and 47th. Our subject property is here just to the southeast where there's two long lots facing 47th and they're going to create four lots that are facing Travis uh as an infill project. Uh the current addresses are 335 and 351 East 47th. It is zoned RS1. This is in SMD number two, Mr. Joseph and in the Lake View neighborhood. So again, I turned this plat just so you could see the the orientation of the of the lots. Again, this is 47th on the right. This is Travis here uh to the top. And then they have four uniform lots that are going across here. Um, it does create a double frontage on this side, but we do have a case that will be going forward to uh the ZBA for that as well as the 15t setback. And in this case makes a lot of sense. There is, and it's you don't see it on this sheet, but there's another sheet that shows that there's actually a 10-ft rideway. And so really that is going to match the same kind of setback at the front um for that side. But that that'll be heard at the ZBA does not impact the the actual plat of the land at this time. See that is neighborhood. You can see the campus institutional. That's one of the SA S AISD properties and so very close to a school. Uh I think that's Lincoln Middle School I believe up there on Lake View Heroes Drive. Uh so adding housing in uh and close to schools is always a good thing. Um, again the the zoning currently is RS1. Here you can see on the left you're looking back to the east along 47th and you can see uh it is a nice wide street. U got curb and gutter there and then Travis here on the right side. Uh the paving width is actually to standard so

15:03 – 15:54Speaker 1

it's over the 26 ft. Uh it just simply doesn't have curb and gutter on the u eastern side. Uh at this time that's not a major uh issue for this project because it's only one block link through there. They only are platting to the alleyway. Uh and I'll go back to that plat just so you see that there's an alleyway there. And so it's really only half the block and for them to do that along there does not make a lot of sense at this time. Um so we are in support of that variance um for the curb and gutter along Travis. So staff is recommending approval of the replat as well as the approval of the variance request. Again, just some simple things about removing the setbacks. Uh install the utility service connections again that talks about curb and gutter or receive the variance. With that, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

15:52 – 16:37Speaker 1

Thank you, Aaron. Anyone have any questions for Aaron? All right, we will open public comment. Erica, just get you a chair right over here. Hi again. Um, different plaque, same thing. Uh, I just ask that y'all approve as presented and if you have any questions, I'm certainly here to answer. Okay. Anyone have questions? Okay. Thank you, Erica. Thank you. Do we have any other public comment? Okay. We will close public comment and open for discussion or a motion. I'll make a motion to approve as presented. Second.

16:34Speaker 1

Okay. Uh motion from Lyndon, second from Liz. All in favor? I.

16:39 – 18:16Speaker 1

All right. 50 RP25-27 Lake View Edition block 28. a request to replplat block 28, lots 13 and 14 of the Lake View edition, combining two lots that are currently oriented east to west and creating four lots oriented north to south within the single family residential zoning district as well as a variance request for no curb and gutter along Oaklan Street. Good morning, Ray Lime, lead planner. This is Lake View edition block 28. It is 46 acres. Um it is zoned RS1 single family. Um it is at the corner of 45th and Oaklan and it is Joseph's district, the Lake View neighborhood. Um they are taking the two lots that you see here and making them into four that face 45th. This is the zoning. They are RS1 and neighborhood vision plan. Um, this is the plat showing the four lots that they're cutting it down to. They did receive a variance for the double frontage on 14B from the ZBA. So, with that, staff is recommending approval. Oh, they did have a variance. The variance was to not install curb and gutter. And I thought I had pictures

18:15 – 18:58Speaker 1

on Oaklan on Oaklan H. Um let's see. Zoom in right there. So um the variance was to not install curb and gutter right here. Um and staff is supportive of that. So with that, staff is recommending approval of the plat and the variance um with the conditions that they need to install water and wastewater service lines for each new lot, install the curb and gutter if the variance is not approved, and then um the plat does say Oaklan Boulevard instead of Oaklan Street. So they will have to revise that plat.

18:55 – 19:40Speaker 1

Okay, perfect. Thank you, Ray. Anyone have questions for Ray? All right, we'll open up for public comment. Russell with SKG would ask for your approval of the plat and variances as requested and happy to answer any questions. Okay, anyone have questions for Russell? Thank you very much. All right, we'll close public comment and open for discussion or motion. Motion to approve as presented. Second. All right, all in fa Oh, sorry. Um motion by Liz, second by Lyndon. All in favor? I. All right. 5. You're cruising today, guys. Um

19:38 – 20:07Speaker 1

Jesus RP25-30, Alasker Edition block 20. a request to replplat block 20, lots 12 and 13 of the Alasker edition, incorporating a small portion of the adjacent property to have the lots be abudding a local street within the two family residential zoning district located at 56th and 60th East 17th Street.

20:05 – 21:48Speaker 1

Good morning. Ray Limebury, lead planner. Again, it's the final plat for today. Um, it's the Lasasker's edition block 20 and it is 31 acres RS22 family residential. Um, the address is 56 and 60 East 17th Street. It is in SMD3 Harry Thomas, the Reagan neighborhood. Um, if you notice, I'm going to use this picture. Um, for whatever reason a long time ago, these were this little area right here and right here were platted as separate lots. So, they are now platting it as one incorporating that little bit. Um, the zoning it is RS2 and it is neighborhood for the vision plan. This is the plat. Um, and if you notice staff, one of the conditions staff is asking this to be removed. Um, it is not actually part of the plat. I guess it is like um on next to the plat. Um, but oops, I'm going to go back to this one. It's kind of right there. That little itty bitty thing. um until we look at that plat that final plat we're we're not ready to accept that dedication. So with that staff is recommending approval with the conditions that they install water and wastewater service lines um that they submit a revised plat removing that dedication and then sidewalks will be required um and they can request a waiver.

21:48 – 21:59Speaker 1

Okay, perfect. Any questions for Ry? All right. Thank you, Ray. Open up for public comment.

22:03 – 22:43Speaker 1

All right. Um, just Erica Wy with Willie Engineering and Surveying. Um, I just ask for approval again as presented and if you have any questions, I'm here to answer. Okay, perfect. Any questions for Erica? All right. Okay. Any more public? Okay. So, we'll close public comment and open it up for discussion or a motion. Make a motion to approve as presented. Okay. Motion by Lyndon, second by Patrick. All in favor? I.

22:39 – 24:38Speaker 1

All right. I have zero. Okay. We are on to rightway and alleyway abandonments. City Council has a final authority for approval of abandonments. Our first case, um, we're actually going to read this slightly differently, but it's, uh, ROW25-07 East 41st Street and Bonham Street. A request to abandon a portion of the street on East 41st between Crockett and Bonum and Bonum between 41st and the North Alley. We are also going to read in um the resoning aspect of this um which is item D resonings and comprehensive plan amend amendments. Gez city council has a final authority for approval of resonings and amendments to be or to the comprehensive plan. We are going to look at item three which is Z25-21 617 East 42nd Street. A request for approval of the zoning change from RS1 single family residential to CN commercial neighborhood for the property located at 617 East 42nd. Thank you. Ray Linberry Leaf Planner. Um I do believe this will take two votes though, right? Yeah. So you will have to vote on both, but they are in the same location. So I was presenting them together. Um so as you can see this is the old Lincoln um school. They it is Fort Contro East neighborhood um district 4 Patrick Healey. The zoning is RS1 at the moment. Um they are the vision plan is neighborhood. They are requesting to abandon the area in red right here. It was originally platted as a street and

24:36 – 26:35Speaker 1

an alleyway. um they already kind of used it. You can see from the overhead image. Um and then they are asking to reszone the area to neighborhood center to allow their um I think it's tiny Texans. It's a daycare to allow a daycare. Um but they want the option to go back to a school. So we didn't want to make it a full-blown commercial, but neighborhood center would allow the daycare. So for the rightway, we sent out 28 notifications. Um, we only received one in favor and it was via phone. They didn't really say their address. And then for the zoning, we sent out 48. We have not received any in favor and no none in opposition. Um, the zoning is RS1 currently and it is neighborhood all around it. Sorry. Um, so with the abandonment, the area measures about 60 by 550 ft on Bonham and 41st. And then the 41st um that's between Crockett and Bonum. No portion of the abandonment has been improved. Um like I said, you can tell they're already kind of using it. Um there is one city water and sewer within the area um that may require an easement when they do replat to incorporate the abandonment. Um, but we don't believe the abandonment will negatively affect any traffic patterns or surrounding owners. So, with that, staff is recommending approval of the rideway um with the idea that um they obtain approval and replat and they provide a quick claimed deed. And then I'm also going to jump to the zoning um that it allows the development for currently vacant building. Um

26:33 – 27:13Speaker 1

Lincoln, the old Lincoln school is currently vacant. They want to repurpose it and staff feels that that is a good idea. Um the idea that it follows a development pattern. It's right in the middle of residential near the other schools. it will help um a need in the area and we don't it's certainly compatible with the area. So with that staff is recommending approval with for the reszone. Okay, perfect. Well, that was a lot. That was a lot. Does anyone have any questions for Ry on um either the rightway and aliment or the resoning?

27:11Speaker 1

No. Okay, thank you Ray. Do we have any public comment? Um

27:14 – 28:04Speaker 1

Russell. Yeah. Morning Russell with SKG. This is part of the school district that submitted an application to to do a interior remodel on an existing building and that's kind of triggered this zone change since it's not maybe technically a school function. It's kind of questionable because it's the tiny Texans still. So, so and the way they wanted to fence it, then it kind of looked like, hey, there's some rideway over here we're fencing in. and so kind of brought both of these together. So, um, we'll be coming in with a replat of that area. Um, hopefully it'll be administrative, so maybe you won't get to see it, but either way, these are some first steps. So, we would ask for your approval on both the rightway abandonment and the zone change, and happy to answer any questions.

28:02 – 28:45Speaker 1

Wonderful. Any questions? All right. Thank you very much. Thanks so much, Russell. Okay. With that being said, I will open up for planning commission to make a motion or if we have any discussion. We do need two motions. One on the rightway in Alabama and one on the resoning. Motion to approve rightway 2507. Second. Okay. Motion from Patrick, second from Lynden on the rightway abandonment. And all in favor Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Nope. Nope. Go ahead. Oh, wow. All right. I was going to say the motion to approve the zoning 25 tech 21 as well.

28:45 – 29:11Speaker 1

Second. All right. Motion from Patrick, second from Lyndon. All in favor of um the right of way abandonment and or sorry RO25-07. We'll make a motion. I All right. That's 50. And all in favor of Z25-21 I.

29:07 – 29:40Speaker 1

All right. 50. Thank you. Planning Commission. Okay. We will go back to our rightway and alley abandonment. So our next case is RO25-08500 West 12th Street. a request for abandonment of an unimproved portion of West 12th Street along with the nearby unimproved unimproved alleyway northwest of the intersection of West 11th Street and North Bryant.

29:38 – 30:56Speaker 1

Thank you. Austin Reed, senior planner. This one comes to you out of the Black Shear neighborhood. It is district number four, Patrick Hely's district. The zoning here is light manufacturing and the vision plan is commercial. What we have is a request for approval of the abandonment of two portions of Rideaway. As you can see, this is kind of in the middle of some vacant properties. Here's a better look at that abandonment. On the lefth hand side, we have what is technically a 20ft alleyway. On the right, we have what would be uh West 12th Street. We sent out 18 notices on this as we were required to. We did not receive any responses that I am aware of. onto our analysis. So, the alleyway measures 20 ft x 150. The street portion measures 60x 250. Um, none of this has ever been used for access or improved in any way. Um, I should also note that the remaining segments of rideaway on this block near this have already been abandoned in the past. Um, there's no utilities here and we don't think that it would negatively affect traffic patterns, the environment, or surrounding property owners. So, with that, we are recommending approval subject to three conditions. First one being for the remittance of payment. Second one for the replat that they'll have to come back for. And the third one should be for that quick claim deed. Do you guys have any questions?

30:55Speaker 1

No. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We'll open up for public comment.

31:04 – 31:46Speaker 1

Russell Gully with SKG. Uh the property owner, this was I guess multiple property owners in the area that was all now combined um to be one owner. And so this is kind of a first step that they want need to abandon this these this right away here and then we'll be coming in with a replat. Um looks like they're going to be wanting to replat it into three lots. So this area will hopefully be developed actually set vacant. I say vacant it vacant for years and and so this is kind of that first step and would ask for your approval. Happy to answer any questions. Thank you very much.

31:43 – 32:01Speaker 1

Okay. go ahead and close public comment and open up for discussion or a motion. Motion to approve as presented. Oh, okay. We've got a motion by Lyndon, second by Candy. All in favor? I.

31:59 – 33:35Speaker 1

All right. 5-0. Our final rightaway case for the day is RO25-09 West 10th and Merchant Street. a request to abandon two segments of unimproved street rightway south of the intersection of West 11th and North Bryant. Thank you, Austin Reese, senior planner. Again, we have another rightway abandonment. This one is actually just across the street from the last one to the south there if you could notice from the map. Um, so it's the same neighborhood, Black Share neighborhood, district number four, Patrick Keely's district. Sony is light manufacturing. Again, the vision plan for this one is industrial. And as you mentioned, we have a request for approval of the abandonment of two portions of street rideway. So, here's a better exhibit for that abandonment. Um, that smaller stubbed out portion is what would be 10th Street, um, going across North Bryant, and that bigger portion is what would be Merchant Street, which I don't think has ever been built in any way. We sent eight notices on this. Once again, we did not receive any responses. onto our analysis. So, none of this, as I mentioned, has ever been improved or used from access from what we can tell. Most of this is actually city property right now. Um, there's no existing city utilities within the abandonment either. So, overall, we don't think that it would negatively affect traffic patterns, the environment, or surrounding owners. So, that brings us to our recommendation. Again, we are recommending approval with our pretty standard three conditions for abandonments. First one being for that payment. Um, second one for the replat, and then the third one being for the quick claim deed. Do you guys have any questions?

33:33 – 33:51Speaker 1

No. Thank you, Austin. Thanks. Okay, open up for public comment. No. Okay, we we will close public comment and then do I need to wait for Liz?

33:49 – 34:32Speaker 1

Yeah. Okay, we'll just take a quick moment. You're good. No, no worries, Liz. Take your time. We can take we can take a recess after we do. Okay. Okay. So, Liz is back. So, I um I'll make a motion to approve as presented. Okay. Motion by Lyndon, second by Patrick. All in favor?

34:30 – 34:49Speaker 1

I. Okay. 5. No. Okay. I say that. Yes. Okay. Okay. So, we will move forward to conditional uses. The planning commission has final authority for approval.

34:48 – 35:28Speaker 1

Excuse me. I'm so sorry. We're here. There's a lot of feedback up in the front and it's going to be hard for us to hear. So, if we can just keep it down a little. Thank you. Um, the planning commission has final authority for approval of conditional uses. Appeals may be directed to city council. Our only conditional use case today is going to be CU25-17 and it's 121 East Avenue K, a request for approval of conditional use to allow for residential dwelling unit for household living in the general commercial/heavy commercial zoning district located at 121 East Avenue K.

35:26 – 37:25Speaker 1

Good morning. Ray Limeberry, lead planner. Um, this is a request to allow residential in a commercial zone. It is zoned general heavy commercial. It is district 3 Harry Thomas with a Fort Contro East neighborhood. Um they have received a conditional use for the residential in the past. Um they did not um have all the conditions they did not meet all the conditions of the previous one um which made it um expire. So with that they are coming back to continue their conditional use. Uh we did mail out some notifications. We received two in opposition, zero in favor. Currently, the zoning is general and heavy commercial in the area. If you remember, it hasn't been updated on the map yet, but the lot right across from them, um was just reszoned to RM1 um to uh I believe it was multifamily um to allow some multif family built there. And then on the other side is the vision map. It is industrial for some reason. Um it was originally neighborhood when they did their first conditional use. Uh and most of it has become neighborhood. Uh there is of course the water treatment plant right over here. And then um along Oaks there is some commercial use. So with that, staff is recommending approval for them to get the conditional use to allow residential um use within the general commercial district, general commercial heavy commercial district. Um they shall conform to the CGCH district. Um we need to verify that they do still

37:23 – 37:49Speaker 1

have their paved parking. Um they have built a fence up. Uh so we were not able to verify that that was still in compliance. And then they do need to obtain a change of occupancy. This was the um condition that they did not meet last time. So this time we are giving them six months to complete that instead of 12. So with that is there any questions?

37:50 – 38:23Speaker 1

We do have comments. name or single member district or address. Sorry, my name is Romero Garza. I'm not aware of the district. Okay, just your address is perfect.

38:18 – 39:31Speaker 1

Okay, thank you. Um, I the reason I'm here is because I don't, you know, I when I applied and I got the zoning and it was approved, it was basically done with Jeff Fiser. You know, took me a long time to get it. And um when I was approved, he just called me and let me know. We'd gotten to be almost friends at that point. We've been there. So anyway, he just called me said, "Romero, everything's good. uh you'll get acknowledgement in the mail. You'll get a letter, you know, all the stipulations and um you've conformed to everything that they requested. So, I kind of just left it at that. I don't know when I got the letter. I I wasn't aware that I needed to reapply. I just went on I've been there what 5 years. I applied for a permit to build a a carport about two years ago. I didn't uh nothing came up, you know. I wasn't notified of anything. Uh for some reason, they told me it had to be commercial the permit cuz I applied for a residential one for the carport.

39:31 – 40:15Speaker 1

Yes, sir. So, I just dropped it, you know. Sure. Uh what, like a month ago, I reapplied for it and they told me it had to be residential at that point. So, which one was it? Uh so again, I just blew it off and then I got uh this uh in the mail that I needed to, you know, reapply. Yes, sir. Uh so I'm like, what's it going to be? Yes. I've uh invested some time and money in the place since then. And uh my neighbor happens to be Mr. uh Zayn. Uh I can't forget his name. He just

40:13 – 40:52Speaker 1

You're right. Mhm. Um I spoke with him. I don't know who opposed me, but anyway, it doesn't matter. He uh he's he's doing the he's building his apartment in those duplexes just east of me. And he informed me that he bought the property in front of me as well. It's going to probably going to do the same thing. Yes, sir. Uh I don't see this area ever being heavy commercial ever again. or there's a little commercial like she said on Oaks. If anything, I was just trying to improve the area. Yes, sir.

40:48 – 41:11Speaker 1

Uh that whole side of town has been neglected in my opinion. Um I saw it as a good thing. Yes, sir. Going in there. So, I don't I don't know the why the opposition. I I just don't I don't have a clue. But, uh Yes, sir. That's what I'm facing and that's why I'm here.

41:10 – 41:55Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Well, we appreciate you being here and sorry again for the confusion between, you know, the times that you've applied for that permit. Um, does what the staff is recommending, does this make sense now on what we need to do? It seems like the biggest, um, the only one that we have left really is to obtain the change of occupancy from Ray. Can you help me? Yeah. Um, so we'll work with you. Um it'll be doing a change of occupancy through um the building permit staff. Okay. Terrific. Okay. So, somebody from permits will be reaching out or does he need to be in touch? We can have somebody reach out to you. Sounds good. I appreciate it. Okay. Thank you, sir.

41:54 – 42:31Speaker 1

Thank you, Ray. Do we have any other public comment? No. Okay. On that note, we will close public comment and open for discussion or a motion. Oh, I'm so sorry. Mhm. Do you know like why they opposed? Why the two opposed? Uh they didn't write anything on there. They just checked the box. Okay. Okay. Okay. I was just curious. And then I know this isn't part of planning, but as far as we don't know why when he did his carport one, the first application was commercial and the second was residential. My my guess is because they looked at the zoning and saw commercial.

42:29 – 42:52Speaker 1

So, but we've gotten this straightened out that we don't have any issues. Okay. I just want to make sure he's not coming back three times. So, okay. Perfect. All right. With that, do we have a motion? I'll make a motion to approve as presented. Okay. Motion by Lyndon, second by Candy. All in favor? I. I.

42:49 – 43:25Speaker 1

Okay. 5. Moving on to our last topic of the day, resonings and comprehensive plan amendments. City Council has a final authority for approval of resonings and amendments to the comp comprehensive plan. Our first case is PD05-02 Coliseum and Fairgrounds expansion, a request for expansion of a planned development adding an additional 39 acres surrounding the east side of the Coliseum located between Lake View Heroes Drive and 43rd Street.

43:23 – 45:23Speaker 1

Thank you. Aaron Vanoy, director Whoop, excuse me, Aaron Vanoy, director of planning and development services. So, we sat down with the the team that's working on this project to uh redo the coliseum and identified some areas that make sense to expand due to the construction and needing some areas for layown that currently are are zoned RS1, uh, which don't make a lot of sense for that area. They've always been used for coliseum and fairground activities. And so we're just going to do an expansion. And so you can see here basically this is the original kind of uh PD that comes around this big rectangle. But this property here that has a detention pond and some space there. The what used to be called the red barn, but now ASU utilizes it as their rodeo arena and u area for their livestock. This is actually the rodeo association's land. And then this piece again is the city's land. And so these pieces here, we're going to expand the allowable uses for the coliseum and the fairgrounds, which include includes all those types of activities that they would do on the larger piece. Um, excuse me. This is SMD number two, Mr. Joseph, and it is in the Lake View neighborhood. So, you can see here the vision plan on the left shows that this is campus institutional, and so making this migration over there to the east with these properties makes a lot of sense. You can see over here that again this is that Lincoln Middle School. This is all zoned RS1 up here, but it's not functioning that way and it hasn't in decades. And so it makes sense to go ahead and allow the allowable uses um that are associated with here on the plan development. Same here with this property. While its main function is a detention pond, there are areas that are being um like the city has a large mulch pile here and they're going to need some of this area that's adjacent to the coliseum as a steel layown yard. Uh

45:21 – 47:20Speaker 1

possibly some workspaces for them to do welding, things like that to get the the coliseum up and moving as well as other projects that may come along on this property here. You can see obviously up here is Lincoln Middle School. So that's adjacent to it. There are here on Alamo starting to be some residential properties. Um but they do back up to the Red Barn here and their outspaces. And then there's a couple of single family large kind of large lots here along uh 43rd as well. So we did send out 68 notices. Uh so far we've not received any in support or opposition. I think most people in this neighborhood know that this is the coliseum and fairgrounds area. They've utilized that for decades and decades. I think most of our citizens realize this is where a lot of heritage events happen. Uh a lot of western style events happen and that's very compatible with our community. Here's just a couple of the the sites. This is from 43rd looking to the to the north and then again from Lake View Heroes Drive looking to the south. It is pretty open. You can see the larger complexes there in the in the background. And on the left, I had another picture and I'm not sure if I included on here. It might have been in your report from 43rd right next to the first residential property. They are also very rural and agricultural um property in mind. They have livestock and things and so it is very compatible for this area. Our rationale is that um the properties have been acting as accessory uses for the original PD uh for decades. Uh this entire large block is very similar to ranch and estate as as opposed to RS1 neighborhoods except for that those properties drawn on Alamo. The barn complex is already leased to ASU for their rodeo activities and housing of the livestock and this continues to allow the the renovation process for the coliseum and future items as needed. staff does recommendate does recommend

47:17 – 48:32Speaker 1

approval of expansion of the PD0502 into the 39 acres directly adjacent. Uh just some minor conditions that during construction uh of times that there would be higher dirt and dust that they should uh figure out some kind of mitigation uh which we'll work with them on that. Um and that could be temporary measures and removal. Doesn't have to be anything permanent. So it could just be some screening along the fence that would catch the dirt. It could be that they use water trucks once in a while to to dampen everything down. Um, one thing that was asked particularly with ASU is that to to remove the solid opaque fences between what would be considered commercial and residential and that's mainly because of the livestock. Most of y'all know that livestock don't really like solid fences. They need that air flow and air movement. There's not been any issues with that along the history of this and so we are we are removing that so they don't have to have solid opaque fences. And then as they're doing the construction, any lighting should be shielded away from residential areas during the nighttime activities. So if they're doing construction at night, which we know that that may take place, they'll just shield it away from those RS1 U properties. With that, I'll be happy to answer any questions. Okay, thank you, Erin. Any questions for Aaron?

48:29 – 48:53Speaker 1

Okay, open it up for public comment. No problem. Okay, that's easy. So we'll make a request for motion or further discussion by planning commission. Make a motion to approve. Second. Okay. Motion by Candy, second by Patrick. All in favor? I.

48:50 – 50:49Speaker 1

All right. 50. PD25-06, 2400 Hill, and 2336 Randolph. request for approval of a zone change from single family residential to planned development with a base zoning of low-rise multifamily residential located at 2400 Hill Street in 2336 Randolph. Good morning. Ray Limeberry, lead planner. Um this is the area of 2400 Hill and 2336 South Randolph. Um they are requesting a PD and they are 2.457 acres in the currently zoned RS1 um single family. They are requesting a plan development with a base district of multifamily low-rise multif family RM1. They are in Harry Thomas District 3 Rio Vista neighborhood. So currently the vision is neighborhood. All around it is RS1 single family with just a little bit of RS2 and um there is for some odd reason one lot up here that is RM1. So we did mail out 46 notices. We received two in opposition and zero in favor. Um, this is their kind of concept plan, uh, and an image of the apartments they plan on building. I am going to go back for a second. So, I'm going to use this one. The apartments, they are looking at having the apartments be along right here. Um, and then they would like to refurbish this current building. And currently their use is for offices and storage um to go towards the apartments.

50:47 – 52:45Speaker 1

They are working with a nonprofit organization um turnurning point that does apartments and so they would have office and a little bit of storage in that building. They do have future plans. Um they would have to come back and amend the PD for those future plans. Um, but that is an image of the apartments they plan on mi making. And then you can see, like I said, this is along they'll where the apartments will go. They want a playground around here. Um, they're going to keep the basketball court that they have. Uh, and like I said, do offices in here. The food bank and kitchen, food kitchen is something they would have to come back and amend the PD to add. We are not adding that currently. Um but again this is future. Um this is what they would like in the future. Um so these are current p current pictures. Um it was difficult to get sometimes. Um this the bottom one is um facing that's along the front and then the top picture is um Hill along the front. So with that um it will help revitalize the site. Uh it reinvests in existing property and it also combines residential with just some office and storage space. um multifamily residential and possibly community services. Um with the nonprofit, it will support neighborhood stabil stability. So with that, staff is recommending approval with six conditions for the PD and it is low-rise multifamily base zoning. Um that they do obtain all

52:43 – 53:37Speaker 1

necessary building permits for the renovation and a change of occupancy. um for the current existing building. And we are requiring that no services be performed on site um at the moment. And then any lighting needs to be shielded and away from any residential surrounding property and that the applicant provides appropriate parking um for both the apartments and the office storage. Um we would like an urban design review and then um we are requesting an opaque fence along the north, south and east side of the property that is there any questions? Any questions? All right. Thank you so much, Ray. Do we have any public comment on this?

53:35 – 54:08Speaker 1

Nobody signed up. Okay, so the applicant is not here. Um Oh, she is. Yes. Oh, okay. She is perfect. Is there anything that you'd like to share? If you can state your name in either single member district or your address. Um my name is Adrien McCravy and the the address of the site. Uh yes ma'am that's fine. Is uh 2400 uh South Hill Street on one side and and 2336 uh Randolph on the other side. Thank you.

54:05 – 56:02Speaker 1

Okay. Um so I bought this in in conjunction in partnership. I'm a I'm a board member and a volunteer at Koncho Valley Turning Point and uh this property became available and uh we have become a partner with United Way in the past year and so when the uh uh we we're looking at expansion we currently have um men's transitional housing on uh 528 East H Highland uh close to Fort Concho u and then we have we've last year we opened a women's uh transitional housing um on uh 4215 Armstrong. Okay. Um and these the the facilities are um are for people coming out of incarceration, out of substance abuse rehab, uh a a few out of homelessness, and uh through through our work uh Contra Valley Turning Point has been working with this population for around 30 years. And uh through our work with that and with uh United Way, it's come to our attention that the 76903 area code is the highest need area code in the entire Concho Valley. And so when the opportunity to purchase this property came up, it was just like, okay, we need to bring services to this community and make things more accessible uh for people that may have difficulty in accessing services in the rest of St. Angelo. Um I was um this is kind of an aside but I was a a counselor at uh CRTC Roy KR Rob for four years and one of the gentlemen that I counseledled there uh he had lived in St. Angelo his whole life and he was um like early 30s his whole life he lived in St. Angelo and his whole life he had lived in a fourb block area in this zip code he didn't have any idea that the rest of St. Angel really even existed. He had no

56:00 – 56:54Speaker 1

access, no interaction. And so that's that's that's something that we want to not have going forward that the community is actually part of the whole St. Angelo community. And so um the transitional housing that we we hope to build along this one at one point is uh there's a very extreme need for um transitional housing for uh families especially small families. Large families can be um assisted by HUD. Uh small families they have a very hard hard time placing them. And so this would be um uh in order for the families to sometimes uh um reunify and sometimes just get through a hard time in order to get get back on their feet and and become part of the community again. Uh so so that's our mission. That's our goal.

56:52 – 57:18Speaker 1

Wonderful. Well, thank you so much. We appreciate you sharing that. Does anyone have any questions? Okay, we will close public comment at that point and open up for discussion or a motion. A motion to approve as presented. Second. Okay. Motion by Patrick, second by Lyndon. All in favor? I.

57:13 – 58:48Speaker 1

All right. 50. Our final case for today um is Z25-2218 South South Van Beerren. a request for approval of a zone change from single family residence to two family residents uh for proper property located at 1218 South Van Beerren. Thank you. Austin Reed, senior planner. This one comes out of the Santaita neighborhood. It's district number five Karen Hessie Smith District. The vision plan here is neighborhood. It measures about 238 acres and this is a zone change from RS1 to RS2. It's just a singular residential lot with an existing structure. Mailed out 25 notices. Did not receive any responses. Here's a look at our zoning map and our vision plan. On the lefth hand side, we have our zoning map. You can see this is mostly RS1. We do have some other pockets of that darker yellow there, which is RS2. Uh our vision plan on the right hand side. As you can see, it's entirely neighborhood. Onto our rationale, we do think it's compatible with the surrounding area. Um, it's surrounded by other residential districts and similar pocket pockets of RS2. As I just indicated, uh, we have observed a demonstrated community need for two family housing, especially in this area, and we don't think that there would be any adverse effects on the natural environment. So, with that, we are recommending approval of the zone change. Do you guys have any questions?

58:45 – 59:26Speaker 1

Any questions for Austin? Okay. Yes. And I think it might have already been operated in that way to some capacity. When they found out that um that wasn't allowed under the RS1 zoning, they reached out for a zone change and we seem to think that it was a reasonable request. Yeah, it appears that it was split in years past two residences and I think they came forward with a permit and realized, oh well, the zoning is not correct and this is to correct the zoning. Okay. Any other questions for Austin? All right. Thank you, Austin. Do you have any public comment on this one? Rayaron. Good morning.

59:25 – 1:00:07Speaker 1

Good morning, everybody. I'm Aaron Nelson. So, this property actually was bought like three years ago and it's been operated as a duplex for probably the last 30 years. We just got done with a remodel on it. Uh we totally redid it. The reason we're here is cuz we were trying to put HVAC in one side. So, but long story short, perfectly set up for it. has two front doors, two back doors, two different parking areas, two backyards. It's literally always been operated this way. So, I know I'm the last thing standing between you and your morning, so I'll keep it brief, but I do just ask that you approve the zone change. Okay. Thank you, Erin. Any questions for Aaron? All right. Any other public? Okay. We will go ahead and close public comment and open for discussion or a motion.

1:00:06 – 1:00:24Speaker 1

I'll make a motion to approve as presented. Okay. Okay. Motion by Lyndon, second by Candy. All in favor? I. All right. 5. So, we will go to Aaron for the planning director's report.

1:00:21 – 1:02:19Speaker 1

Thank you, Britney. Um, this month is the National Planners Month. Uh, tomorrow at city council, we'll be getting a proclamation about that. Um, but what it really means is the hard work that you guys do as well as our zoning board of adjustment and our DHRC board, uh, peers board and other boards that really work to make planning uh, a difference in our community. Uh, along with that, coming up in November, we're going to be at city council to get the comprehensive plan uh, request for qualifications process started. So that we're going to start getting some uh, companies to submit their qualifications for our comprehensive plan. And so we hope that after the first of the year that will be kicked off with a contract and we will start really working on our comprehensive plan. And you saw many of our cases today um whether they are resoning or replat and it's all about redevelopment for our community within our community is how do we continue to allow that to stay flexible and how do we project that to happen in the next 20 30 40 years in our community. So it will take a lot of community feedback. It'll take a lot of work from uh commissioners like you guys that are sitting on boards to really think about the future and how do how the decisions we make today impact us 30 years down the road. Um and so we're very excited about that. Our staff team is really coming together very well. We're very excited about the staff that we have and how we're able to to utilize the skills that we have together. Uh so I'm very excited about that. I look forward to if it decides to turn fall, which it was a little bit this morning. Uh but through the holiday season, we'll still have quite a few cases coming forward. We have a lot of redevelopment happening and so I'm I'm happy to say that. It sounds like St. Angela is staying strong. We hope next month we'll have a report on the housing study that Kosa DC did. Um I'll probably see if they can send that to me and I can give us a synopsis of what that housing study really says. So, because really we're going to be the group that

1:02:18 – 1:02:59Speaker 1

says, "All right, how do we change our housing future and change with our zoning ordinance to make that happen?" Um, so I'm very excited about what we have coming forward in the next 18 to 24 months. So, y'all stick with us. And that's all I have for today. Okay, perfect. We have any followup and administrative issues to address? No. Okay. With that being said, the next regular meeting of the planning commission is scheduled to begin Monday, November 17th, 2025 at 9:00 a.m. in the East Mezzanine City Hall located at 72 West College a um College Avenue. Um we have a motion for adjournment. I'll make a motion to

1:02:57 – 1:03:09Speaker 1

a motion by Lynen, second by Patrick. All in favor? I All right. Thank you for your time today and putting up with me putting me in charge.

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