City Council - Regular Meeting

Um, first thing we'll do is call this meeting to order. And with that, we will start with our chaplain prayer and pledges. And with that, we're going to bring up Gary Jenkins. Right. Good morning, mayor, and members of the city council. And good morning to you. How's everybody?

All right. That's what I like to hear. Will you join with me in a word of prayer? Father in heaven, in the name of Jesus, we bow before you to say thank you for this day. We thank you for allowing us to come together and assemble here to conduct the business of the city. We ask you to bless our mayor, the honorable Tom Thompson, and all the members of the city council, our clerks, and Lord, our attorney. And Lord, we ask you to bless our first responders, our fire uh officials, and our police officers, and all of those that are in the office of protecting this community. We pray for wisdom and guidance and we pray for your favor. These things we ask in Jesus's name and for your name's sake. Amen. Amen. We'll repeat the pledge. I want one. We have a couple proclamations that we'll read this morning. If there's anybody here with the child abuse prevention month, I'd like for you to come forward, please. So, what time are you up this morning?

Three.

All right. Um, child abuse prevention month. Children are our most valuable resources and will shape the future of our community. Child abuse and neglect are serious problems affecting every segment of our community and finding solutions requires input and action from everyone. We acknowledge that we must work together as a community to increase awareness about what families need before they are in crisis and to to promote the social and emotional well-being of children and families in a safe, stable, and nurturing environment. Effective child abuse prevention strateies strategies succeed because of partnerships among families, social service agreements, schools, faith communities, civic organizations, law enforcement, and the private sector. The communities that provide parents with support, resources, and education help ensure that children grow up in a safe, healthy, and stable home. Prevention remains the best defense for our children and all citizens should become more aware of child abuse prevention efforts and support programs that strengthen families and protect children. Therefore, I, Tom Thompson, mayor of the city of San Angelo, Texas, on behalf of the city council, do hereby proudly proclaim the month of April 2026 as child abuse prevention month. And we urge all citizens to recognize that child abuse is a preventable and that is preventable and that a healthy and prosperous society depends upon a strong family and community.

Dustin, we need somebody to say some words. I don't think we've ever had a shortage. It just depends. Mayor just depends.

Good morning everyone and mayor council. Thank y'all very much for this moment this morning. Um as a representative of the Children's Advocacy Center of Greater West Texas based here in St. Angelo that does not just serve St. Angelo children but the Concho Valley. We are very honored to have a movement in our community of awareness of child abuse and it does take every single one of us. Uh children are our strongest future and they start now and if we're not advocating for them and if we're not helping to prevent child abuse then we are destroying our future in the moments that we live. So, I encourage every citizen if you do not know how to prevent child abuse in our community, please give us a call. We'll be more than happy to give you free educational resources, but also we will also share with our community that we have a lot of amazing advocates that truly work every single day to protect our children. And we are so grateful for their service to this community and your service to those children. So, thank you'all very much, Mayor. Thank you for doing this for child abuse prevention month. And it does take all of us. So God bless you all. Thank you. Anybody here from the Rotary Club? Come on down. You got like one whole lace. Y'all just get a little closer that way. Awesome.

Yeah. No heckling from the back. All right. The St. Angelo Rotary Club, chartered in 1926 and sponsored by the Fort Worth Rotary Club, has served as a cornerstone of civic leadership and community service in San Angelo for over for 100 years. Now celebrating its centennial anniversary in 2026, the club has played a vital role in fostering community growth, supporting local initiatives, and strengthening regional connections through the organization of additional Rotary clubs throughout the region, including St. Angelo West. With a membership of approximately 75 active Rotarians locally and more than 1.2 million members worldwide through Rotary International, Rotary remains one of the largest and most impactful service organizations in the world. Members of the St. Angelo Rotary Club have demanded have demonstrated exceptional dedication to service with some individuals contributing more than 50 years of active membership. The St. Angelo Rotary Club has a rich history of service and philanthropy, including decades of successful fundraising efforts such as its annual shrimp fest and casino night supporting both local and global service projects. The club has remained dedicated to youth development and educational through scholarships, student exchange programs, and its annual top scholars banquet recognizing the top 25 students from Central and Lake View High School while also providing significant community service through disaster response efforts, support of local organizations such as Hope House and Helping Hands and participating in initiatives including adopt a highway, Salvation Army bell ringing, and serving as a host of concho Christmas celebrations. The San Angelo Rotary Club continues to look toward the future with ongoing projects including the adoption enhancement of Rotary Park, formerly known as Mountain View Park, further strengthening its legacy of service and community impact. Therefore, I, Tom Thompson, mayor of the city of San Angelo, Texas, on behalf of myself and the city council, do hereby proclaim

the month of April 2026 as San Angelo Rotary Month in recognition of 100 years of dedicated service, leadership, and commitment to improving the quality of life for citizens of St. Angelo and communities around the world. Mason, somebody going to give us some words there?

Yes. I'd be remiss not to recognize our senior senators who are with us. You referenced 50 years. Stanley Mayfield and Mr. Mark White have been members of our club for 50 years. And as we look to the next 100 years, you Patrick Brody was here at the last council meeting um detailing the plans for the swiftwater rescue boats. I'd be remiss our club uh asked for grants and raised money to meet that need. I believe it was over $25,000 for the swiftwater rescue of of our city so that we can meet the needs of the future. But we're just honored to uh be in the community and we look forward to the next 100 years of St. Angelo Rotary and what we can bring. So, thank you for this opportunity. at 8:41. Let's move into public comment. Members of the public may raise issues or concerns not listed on the regular agenda during this time. To participate, please sign in with city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. Speakers

will be called in the order they signed in. When speaking, citizens must speak from the podium, address all comments to the dis. Begin by stating your name and address or your single member district number and limit your remarks to three minutes or less. Heather, do we have any public comment? Yes, sir. Daniel Solless. Going once. Next.

Okay. Uh Steve Elenius. Steve. Uh my name is Steve Elenius. I'm president CEO of the St. Angelo Chamber of Commerce, 418 West Avenue B. Uh first and foremost, I want to thank each of you uh and what you do. I know sometimes you're wondering why did I sign up for all this? There has been a lot of conversation around data centers and the opportunities with those and also what people are concerned about. But I want to tell you I I appreciate the questions that you're asking and collectively the direction you're trying to go in terms of establishing guard rails for this type of project for this community. So I want to commend you for that and I want you to know your efforts are appreciated. So what is a data center? A data center basically is a building full of computers that deliver information that we use every day. In a technical term, it's a secure facility. It looks like a giant warehouse uh that stores racks of computers. Uh they process information for businesses, individuals, schools for everyday use. They are not heavy water users. They're very similar and I always use this as an analogy. We all there's 300 million of these smartphones in the United States. That is one smartphone for every man, woman, and child. And on these smartphones are apps and streaming services that we all use every day. And I liken it to clean drinking water. We all enjoy clean drinking water. Uh and we expect to have clean drinking water. But in order to have clean drinking water, we have to have water treatment plants. You cannot have clean drinking water without clean without a water treatment plant. Same thing with that with with our smartphones. We all enjoy using those apps. We all enjoy using those uh streaming services, but we

cannot have those streaming services or those apps without data centers. You have if you don't have data centers, you basically on a smartphone have a dumb instrument that basically you can answer your phone with. And so I liken it to the services that we all use every day. just to give you a list of this. I'm not going to list mayor all 247 services but things like Instagram, Netflix, iBox, Facebook, YouTube, Apple Music, PayPal, EA Play, Direct TV, Wfair, and Sla Slack are just some of those things are the apps that we use off our smartphones that are housed and stored in data centers. So, it's basically the internet of everything. And so I again just want to thank you for what your efforts and what you're doing. I know collectively as a community we're going to come to a path that I think that will work for everybody with the guard rails but also can help create an opportunity to expand the tax base here in San Angel. Thank you.

Thank you Steve. Next, Glenda Solis Asdo. Mr. Asdo. Next, Amber Admanderas.

Amber, sorry. Good morning, council members. My name is Amber Armandereas and I live in district 6. I am here to implore you vote against the proposal to build any data centers in the Sanel city limits and for you to encourage our fellow me neighbors in Tom Green County and surrounding counties to vote against any such proposal as well. While all of Skybot's promises and guarantees seem somewhat plausible, I assure you that their only job is to sell us on a dream of progression and false assurances. We do not have the infrastructure to supply what these data centers require. Let me explain. Skybox speaks of closed loop systems as if that is a concern problem solved. However, what happens when the used contam contaminated water goes through their blowdown process? It flows back into aquifers, wells, rivers, and reservoirs full of forever chemicals, dangerous metals, and other contaminants or black sledges. Some representives representatives have reported. Data centers use massive amounts of water for cooling, sometimes millions of gallons w. And when they need to refill their closed loop system once again, they will f pull from our water sources. This community is surrounded by farmers and ranchers, and our water resources supply their livestock and crops. If this proposal is approved, we will not only be poisoning our own community, but our neighbors as well as and their way of life, too. I grew up on my family's ranch with a natural well not too far from here and witness what our seasonal droughts are like. We suffer through one every seven years with above 100 degree weather, sometimes several months out of the year. This area doesn't have seasons like other parts of the country. We may get two months of fall, two weeks of winter, a month of spring, and the rest is all summer. In the past 20 years, on

average, we we get a rainfall of 21.23 23 in. Our lowest year was 9.21 in of rain. I'm sure everyone remembers the year that we suffered more than 3 months of 100 degree weather. Right now, Nazworthy as is at 87.3% capacity. OC Fisher 14.3% and Twin at 10.4% capacity. If Beacon data center gets approval in Dove Creek and y'all approve, Skybox on Highway 67, St. Angelo and its people will suffer immensely. These data centers not only pollute our water but cause land surface temperatures to rise by 16.4 degrees Fahrenheit and the heat impact can extend up to 6.5 miles away from the data centers. It doesn't take a fool to realize the reason why Skybox and Beacon data centers have chosen this area. They have come for our reservoirs. You want progression, but what at what cost? What happens when we can no longer water our crops or take a shower because of what these toxins have done to our water? We are the stewards of the land and water and we and you were voted to represent your community and your community is progressively asking you to not approve this. If this if they can haul their own water trucks as they say, then they should build these AI data centers in the desert and do just that. I will end with this Native American proverb. Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will you realize you cannot eat your money. I yield my time.

Thank you. Thanks, Ted. Douglas Long.

Good morning, Mayor St. Angelo Management and City Council. My name is Douglas Long and I am a resident of single member district 3. My comments today are on the record and I will speak on data centers. I urge the city council to pause all deliberations on bringing data centers to St. Angelo. Please allow St. Angeloans the opportunity to vote on whether or not they want to share their water, air, and infrastructure with such large consumers of these resources as data centers are. I urge the city council to present the facts on data centers and not confuse the public with hype about future tax revenues while we continue to struggle with the higher living costs of food, water, and other utilities and transportation which any data center will only exacerbate. I ask that you place a moratorum on approval of any data center until the people's vote has been tabulated. You owe it to your conscience as our elected representatives. Do not give away our life-giving water, cause our electric bills to increase such that we cannot afford to heat and cool our homes, or force us from our homes because we can no longer pay for them because of higher rents and property taxes that go to subsidizing data center glutton. Please do not torture us with the low hum of these data centers without a vote. Pass a moratorum on data centers and allow the people to vote on them. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Long. Antonio Martinez,

number six. Uh, good morning, council. I'm Antonio Martinez, a resident of single member district 4. Uh, I apologize. I'm not as well prepared today as I was before. So, I just want to reiterate some points that I made before that there is a lot of impacts that we just don't know the answers to as it uh pertains to this data center. Um, just to make it clear, I'm opposed to this data center being put in place. Um, there's a lot of uh misnomers being flown around like it doesn't use that much water. Um, it's true that a a single prompt can use 0.0015 or something like that of a teaspoon of water, but it's it lends itself to being misleading because one prompt can have hidden prompts behind it. I can ask for a list of all fruits that are red and it'll have to have prompts that'll say, "Well, what fruits aren't red?" Uh, just as an example. So, these add to the water cost, but we're not being told that upfront. Um, I would also like to say that um, Mr. Keelley took the time on Saturday to hear a lot of the concerns of people in his district specifically. I would urge the rest of you to do the same. Um, even though he did get grilled for a little bit. Uh, I I appreciate you taking the time. We call balls and strikes. Um, there's not really a whole lot else I'm prepared to say today. Um, I think it's very important that we look at our neighbors in Abalene and the real cost that they're dealing with right now. the benefits are very front-loaded where you might have a year or two of prosperity, people making six figure salaries coming in, spending their money, but um if they can pay more for rent, but the rest of us have the jobs that stay the same, where do we go? And so, sure, it'll be good for business owners in the area for a couple of years, but what happens three, four, five years down the line? There's a lot of unanswered questions and I think we

really need to sit down and take a look because we have somebody close by that's a very good case study and what we could and could not benefit from and um I think it would benefit us to at least put a moratorum on this for a while to um really take a a look at Abene specifically. Um I'm sure that some of us know a lot of people in Abalene. We can start there, make a few calls to a friend or something. Um but I think it's very important that we do that. Uh that's all I have. Thank you. Jamal Schumpert. Jamal. No, that's all.

Jamal declined. With that, we will move out of public comment. We'll move into the consent agenda. What was your name? Oh, I'm so sorry. Yes. And Jennifer Dendy. Good call. Jennifer, you'll be number seven on public comment.

Good morning, Mayor Council. Thank you for listening to me. Um, I wanted to talk about Stargate because I don't feel I haven't heard anybody talk about that. Stargate is what's funding the Abolene data centers and uh it was started in 2025 thrown out there by President Trump $500 billion dollar to fund data centers across the country. And I couldn't even realize what $500 billion is. It's half a trillion. So I got on YouTube to watch one of those videos that kind of visualizes a trillion dollars for you. If you haven't watched one of those, you should cuz it's mindblowing. This is so much money. It's crazy. And I understand that we want a piece of that money. I get that. But the problem is you throw out this money and these companies are spreading across the country to build these things like locusts. They are looking for water, energy, cheap land, water, energy, cheap land. And they're landing here and they're going to build their big giant data center. and they're going to leave. They're going to fly away with their millions and we're going to get this little bag that has a few hundred,000 dollars of property tax money, 20some not so great jobs, higher electric bills, and higher water bills. That's not a good deal for us. And I understand if you want a piece of this money, I understand that. But we got to make a good deal for St. Angelo, if we're going to negotiate with the locusts, make it a good deal for us. We in St. Angelo are counting on all of y'all to not let St. Angelo be taken for a fool, basically. Thank you.

That's all. No comment. All right. Thanks for speaking up when we didn't have you. Good call. All right. Let's go ahead and move into the consent agenda and we will move across the dis starting with you Mary. Do you have any items you would like to pull? Um number F. Mary wants to pull F. Karen G, please. G. Patrick. No. I would like to pull Let me see. B Harry nothing Joe nothing Mr. Heert.

No sir. All right with that we'll look for a motion to approve all items except BF and G. Can I get a motion? So move second. Do we have any public comment on BFG? All those except BFG. Yes. Gotcha. Yes. Uh Jamal Schimpert

neither. So you Heather, which items is he going to speak on? On C, E, and K.

All right, Jamal. Uh Jamal Shumpert, SMD3. Uh the reason I pulled I wanted to look at C wanted y'all to speak about is because uh last year a couple years ago, I uh raised the issue about a high plane, low plane thing in this exact area. Uh I wonder if that had anything to do with it. Um and what is a miscellaneous easement? I I'd like to know more details myself. I'm very uneducated in miscellaneous easements. Uh, I did want to speak with E, uh, talk about E, but I think I'll speak with Mr. Sneerman on another day instead of speaking to you guys about it. Uh, because it's an ongoing project that Park Hill has been doing and they've been adding to it, you know, because we keep adding to the industrial park and um, E. Well, that's it. CN E. Thank you. What was I do have be in another K. Yes. Um K. Is that where the be the use table the 3,000 foot lots? Is that on there as well or is it just the overlay districts?

This isn't the time for questions, just your public comment.

Okay. So on K um I I would like y'all to break that down into more more meetings. like sitting that on a consent agenda and there's that many things that you're going to just bypass the ordinance with and every year we seems like we're having a planning commission meeting a double joint planning commission meeting. One year was about STRs and another year is about something else. I think it was about some of the stuff on here now and now it's the third year where we're having another joint meeting. Seems like we're trying to rush it and the citizens don't want us rushing these things. they kind of want to be aware of all of the changes and these these are quite a bit quite a few changes that are happening. So I'd like for us to maybe not table that but if we pass it be more more open about what it what it is like we are with the data centers. I wish we could kind of be like that on everything so that all the community could be take a part in this and help us all out. But if we sit here and only push the things that are brought up from people in the community that are big problems, then all of the smaller problems begin to get bigger and they become larger problems like our utility and expanding our utilities and waters, which I'll talk about a little bit later. But thank you.

Any more public comment?

Uh yes, Rocky Templan for item K. Morning, Rocky Templan, single member, District 6. Uh we were going to have a joint meeting today on that item and I believe it was cancelled for today, which was about 29 days ago. So now we're going to have another joint meeting in 29 days to cover the same item. Uh in the past 29 days, we have not received a final draft on any of those. And so I would like to know if we're going to receive a final draft before the next meeting on May 19th in a timely fashion, which that covers a lot of information as y'all know, as y'all have seen. So if we get that the Friday before, that's not going to be very good. So I would hope that we could get that in a timely manner. Thank you.

That's for approved items now. All right. So we've had a first and a second. and public comment for all items except B, F, and G. We'll go for a vote. All those in favor say I. Any opposed? All those items pass 70. Now we'll roll into item B. Consider approving a lease agreement with the YMCA to use the Carl Ray Johnson Recreation Center and authorizing city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents.

Yes, sir. Uh the YMCA, they are um needing space this summer for their summer day camp. Uh the ISD has construction projects going on, so they're needing to use some additional facilities around to be able to accommodate their summer camp. Uh so Carl Ray Johnson is available during the hours which they need, which would be before 5:30 p.m. Monday through Friday. Uh we're wanting to go in negotiations with them to give them a reduced rate from our normal rental rate of 30 an hour to keep it affordable for them but still cover the cost that we incur uh as a recreation division. Jesse, I pulled this. How many kids did this help out?

Uh around 150. So two weeks ago, 150 kids had no place to be during this time period. Yes, sir. Thanks for stepping up. very much. I mean, you can't say the number of phone calls I've got, and we can't money and quarterback this, but this was an outstanding job of the city to provide city public space to take care of a bunch of kids in need. It was outstanding. So, I wanted to tell you that myself. And with that, I'll make a motion. Second. I've got a second from Tommy Heert. Any public comment?

Jamal Schimpert. Jamal Shumpert, SMD3. Tom, I mean, mayor, uh, as a person who's actually supervised these camps, ran these camps from the bottom up itself with the city of Marshall, uh, at 18, 19, and 20, uh, it was poor planning. And furthermore, we these kids are paying, and do you know how much they're paying? I don't know if we're helping them out. We're taking some money. Did we, you and we giving them the same type of facilities that the YMCA has or that the school district has? Uh, last time I went and call Ray cuz y'all do y'all did have games there. Um, it wasn't up to the standards that I would say. And we do have a facility standards and standards of care for the city in our youth programs. Uh, it just seems to me if you really wanted to help these kids out, you take some money out that development corporation, put about $50 $60,000 towards paying for them to attend the YMCA at your gym. Now, that's helping them out. But right now, all we're doing is providing the space and lowering the rent for someone else like me who who could have came in and did this exact same thing. But because I don't have YMCA behind my name, I can't get the reduced rate, right? So, yeah, thank you. But thank you for providing the space at the very least. I just don't like it when we come out and look like we're we're Superman when honestly that's not even the minimum we could have did for him cuz this extra money. Thank you. Any more public comment?

Not on item B. All right. So I've got a first for me and a second for Tommy Heert. All those in favor of item B say I.

Any opposed? Item B passes 70. Let's go to item F. Consider a resolution finding a public purpose and approving a request by West Texas Land Guys St. Angel LLC for the city to pay for the material installation cost differential between an 8 in diameter and a 12-in diameter sewer line extension on or along Ardan Road and FM2288 that will serve the planned Ardan height subdivision and potential development in the area and authorizing city manager to negotiate and execute all necessary documents. John Kaufman. John, you're on. Morning, mayor, council, city manager. Uh, what questions can I answer for you?

Goes. Thank you, John. I have a question on the 30% of the 366,750 for that 8 in sewer line. Uh, if that means we'll pay $110 roughly for the developer that will, the way I read it, only accommodate him. uh when the surrounding land doesn't even even attach to the city, we don't know if that's ever going to be annexed or connected at all, do we?

No, there's no certainty of that. U my understanding is that there is land development anticipated by developers in that area to the west that presumably would be annexed by the city in the future. The the reason for this is that uh our discussions with um land developers has been that uh if we don't extend a sewer line, they'll have reduced density of housing and they'll put in septic systems. The water's too valuable to us. We need to have that return flow to the wastewater plant for future reuse and any future development that occurs out there will be higher density, better more tax revenue for the city and then we'll get those sewer return flows back to us. Uh that water is very valuable.

Do we have any other developers besides this one that is uh requesting this or looking for any? Not at this time. No,

we have we have had developers in the past that have come to the city asking for assistance uh much similar to this as well. And we expect in the future as well. If you can remember back in October, uh I brought to the council uh the idea of creating a policy for the city uh to for developer assistance in areas like this, especially where we are asking for oversized piping uh whether that's for sewer and for water as well. Um our our initial the ordinance that we currently have for de developer assistance is is a bit antiquated and needs to be updated. And so as a part of all of that, we're trying to create an basically a developer assistance program to help offset some of these uh in extremely high inflationary prices that we've seen in in the in that industry.

Okay. So, we are open to it's not just this one isolated thing. This is something that could Yes, this is not one isolated thing. We have done this in the past uh with the bank and trust not too long ago out on the north end of town. Uh we've also uh with um um um Baker Baker Ranch Baker Ranch and states off of Twin with David Darnell uh and his his group uh we've helped them as well with the same same sort of assistance as well and we and while we don't have another existing request on the table right now we do expect some to be coming in.

Okay. All right. Thank you Shane. If you don't mind, council um the developer is here from West Texas land guys and would like to speak to the council on the subject if you would be so inclined. I would appreciate that. Everybody else okay with that? Bring him up. John.

Hi, my name is Stacy Huvel. I'm with the West Texas Land Guys of San Angelo. I just wanted to give a little bit of background about this development and kind of what we're trying to accomplish. We develop residential subdivisions in three areas in West Texas. We're in Leach, Abene, and San Angelo. This is our one of our I guess our second development in St. Angelo. And we have gone I think we've probably been here before. We've talked about doing smaller lots. We've talked about maybe making acre lots because we don't have water and sewer out there. Um, you know, we realize that you need some housing. You need attainable housing and you need a probably a little bit higher density subdivisions than acre lots. And the way that we can accomplish that is by working with the city in a development agreement partnership where you help us get the sewer out there. And then it benefits not just our sub our development, but it also de benefits other developments in the area. which is why the city is asking us to upgrade the line from an 8-in line to a 12-in line so that it can serve more than just our development which will be called Ardan Heights.

It'll be called what? I'm sorry. Ardan Heights. Oh, okay. Right. Thank you. So, that's kind of why we're here. We've had success with this partnersh type of partnership in other areas and we know that in talking to Shane that you guys are open to a development agreement with developers in certain circumstances and that's what we're asking for because it is somewhat cost prohibitive to bring the sewer line to our property based on where it is and this would extend it to our property line and thus extend it further past our property because we'll put it obviously into our development. All right. Thank you very much. I'm happy to entertain any other questions you might have.

I just got a quick one, John. Um, if this same developer develops the next part after that, do they reimburse the cost for upgrading that line to get it to there or do they just pay for the new section as well? That's a question that needs to be determined. I don't have an answer for that yet. Okay. I think that's part of the discussion that Shane was talking about. It is currently in our ordinance. We we would still be providing assistance in the upsized line to extend it further if we believe that it's necessary uh to extend the 12-in out further past this property if it continues to develop over. Uh in our current ordinance, we would be required to provide that uh oversized uh reimbursement. Even if it's the same developer.

Even if it's the same developer. Correct. Okay. Cool. Any further questions down there? Any additional questions by council? I'll look for a motion. I so move. I have a first from Harry and a second from Mary. Mary, he just beat you across the line there. Okay. Don't want to get in trouble. Any public comment on this item? Rocky Templan.

Morning. Rocky gentlen single member district 6. After looking at the planning agenda yesterday and the city council agenda, I saw that the West Texas land guides had two plats yesterday on the consent agenda planning. Uh then after listening about data centers again, I went home and I opened 30 plus tax notices and saw that my taxes were going up from anywhere from 3% to over 200%. I live, work, shop, and contribute to the tax base here in the city and I pay my share of taxes. So, I think I should have a say of where it is being spent, especially when it comes to a company from Leach who wants my tax dollars to help them put in 40 lots mass density to sell to Dr. Horton. The letter from the West Texas land guys to the city, which is dated April 3rd, which is only 12 business days. I give y'all credit for moving pretty quick. um states in order to begin development, we need to extend the existing sewer line for Martin 2288. They bought this four years ago. They state we're going to build 1acre lots on 9 acres, which would be nine lots, which wouldn't be very much. Would be around $450,000 gross. And then they said higher density halfacre lots, which would have been double that, which would have been about 18. but instead they've changed it to 40 lots which is a $2 million gross. The 18 nine or 18 lots wouldn't have sewer. The 40 lots would have sewer. Um and they quote in their letter to run to our property line. So we need to understand that 110,000 of this is is to pay 30% of the 8 in line to run 600 ft to get from 2288 to their property line. And then we're also paying the upside of the 12 inch was another 152,775. So even if you take the sewer off of

that, the cost plus what the city's paying, they're going to net more like 1.34 of a million and make another million. So the city has something they need. They need water. They need annexation. Makes more sense. More sewer, more lots, more density, more money. But on the map, the only piece of property that joins the city limits is a very small corner on the very bottom. The rest of that property has been removed from the ETJ and will not be annexed and will not be in the ETJ. There are two subdivisions going forward surrounding them that'll be halfacre lots with septic tanks. We've been talking about affordable housing for eight months. Well, at no time did the city say, "Hey, we could pay for 30% of your infrastructure to help with the cost of affordable housing." No, they said, "Hey, can we ask you to pay for the street signs and the striping? We have a budget of $8,000, but instead you'll spend $3,819.37 for the sewer for 40 lots that does not touch the city limits or connect to the ETJ."

Thank you, Rocky. Any other public comment? Jamal Schumpert. Jamal

Jamal Shumpert, SMD3. I I don't think I could follow him. Well, but uh man, uh guys, I didn't know that. Um and also, uh speaking on this, we for the record, we've done this several times. We've uh taken stuff that wasn't necessarily on a capital improvement project or necessarily what we're supposed to do that year and spent it like the rift raft by Sonic in the concrete. That's storm water area. It's about $400,000. Uh just last week, I think you paid $130,000 on the infield program. Where it says infield, it kind of gets me confused. Uh especially when I see this. Um, but to to their credit, uh, I actually I don't I don't actually know why we're doing these things, not just the banking trust or the riff raff. When Mr. Fry came up here and all he needed was $100,000 to run this program that would benefited the entire community. uh when we're spending stuff like this, we don't have the $400,000 to run that program with 16 FTEEs for Mr. Fat Patrick Fri. That's that's the issue I have. Uh but but in this case, before Mr. Templan came up here and said that a lot of that wasn't going to be connected, it seemed like this would have been a better option than all the rest of them you chose. Uh but now knowing that knowing that he did the homework, extra homework that I didn't, I that's it'd be a a bad decision. Uh not not that I have anything against these this company in particular, but all of them in my opinion were bad decisions if we have to spend that money and we don't have the 800,000 in the water in the operations which is part of

utilities as well uh to hire those 16 FTEEs. But thank you Absolutely. That's offer F. No, Shane, we're I mean Patrick has some questions. Just real quick, John and maybe Shane. Um so on this I uh I'm in favor of the development agreements that we have going forward. On this one, we have asked them to go to the 12 in. Correct. Yes, sir. is um kind of what was said, is there other lots that are connected to city that will pay city taxes that will be connecting on this in the future?

There is a there is a commercial lot right there on the corner that will connect to this at some point in the future as well. Um or maybe multiple lots depending on how it's sold and broken up. We we uh we were led to believe that uh the land guys in specific have a first route of refusal on the land um just directly to the west and maybe to the north uh of them as well. And so again, we we expect based on that information that there is some some desire to continue to move to the west and maybe to the north as well out there in that general area to where that would at some point connect to our sewer. That's why we requested the add to go from the 8 in to the 12 in is for the extra capacity

and to get that sewer they'd have to annex that into the city limits. Yes, they would have to annex for for them to be able to utilize our sewer. Correct. Gotcha. Thank you. Any other questions? Yeah. My question here, John, is we're just covering the cost to upgrade the pipe. Correct. We upgrade the pipe and 30% of the installation of if it was 8 in to go from where it currently is established at Ardan and 2288 to the property line. Understand that. Okay. No, that answered my question. Any more questions from the DAS? I'll look for a motion.

Oh, I've got Yes, I've got a first and a second. I'll look for a vote. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Item passes 6 to one. With that, we'll move into item G. Consider a resolution authorizing animal service division to accept a donation of $6,358.97 worth of Serica from Zoetas Pet Care. Angela BLS. Good morning. Um, we are very thankful for our contracted vet who went out to his representative to get this donation for us. So, this is for Serica. will treat fleas and ticks for entire population currently at the shelter. So, what are your additional questions? Okay.

Um, yes, we are grateful. I'm I'm grateful as well and so there's no problem approving this. Couple of quick questions. However, do you re rely on donations to provide this treatment because fleas and ticks pose a health risk? Significant health risk. Yes, currently it's significantly expensive to for the amount of dogs. So, we have 140 dogs at any given time in the shelter. So, to treat them monthly, I believe we just sent an estimate to um council member Coffee for a little over $40,000. You anticipated my next question. So, you need funding and and we need to consider that with great serious. Never turn down funding.

Okay. All right. I think that solves it. Yes. Uh I make the motion to accept the donation with gratitude. You have questions or you want to say? Yeah. Question. Um on that. So do we have any policy that maybe one that does come in with with visible ticks that we treat it before it goes out to anybody after they adopt it. Help with that at all? Yes. If you go through the adoption process with us, we do treat it for fleas and ticks prior to it leaving the use. But if it goes through a rescue, they're responsible for any of that treatment and medical care. Perfect. Thank you. Yes, of course,

Angela. I'll follow that up with the third. Um, being in this industry and doing animal health care all the time. These donations are certainly available to animal health shelters. All right. I'm just saying you just have to let people know. There are tons of companies out there that would be more than happy to donate. They would do buy one get ones usually with a a animal shelter. A lot of times those free goods by far exceed the dollar amount you could do. I just think y'all need to be act actively um I would say campaigning for that and to do that your vetinarian should know how to do that. But there's probably 50 or 60 companies that would do similar things. Don't know the quantity but number one we want to thank Zoetas for doing this. Number two, I just think we need to probably be a little bit more open and campaign aggressively on that, but be careful. Some people do get um a little bit concerned about what gets donated and what is in the trade

and Yes. Yes. Yes. And we're working on that um as far as protocols and guidelines that we need for our facility to manage those manage those donations and keep track of those donations. So, it's currently in the process. All right. Cool. Anybody else on this topic? I've got a first from Karen and a second from Patrick. Did you have something? Yes. Yes. I had a question and then uh just a statement on that. Is this this one time donation from Sira is that um can that be renewed or is this a an annual thing or just a one once? Right now it's a one time I mean I'm hoping that we can build that relationship where it happens more often. But for right now it's a one time um one month dose for every owned dog at the facility.

Well, I need to say this too. I've spoken with Amanda, our director, numerous times, and she has actually been incredibly proactive and has been very open to any kind of donation uh acceptance. And so, I know there's a little bit of confusion as to how do we solicit that, you know, and so that's there's been a little confusion uh on that, not not necessarily from y'all, but from me and even even the public. What can we accept and what can we not and how we solicit that? But Amanda has been she's taken on almost an impossible job. You know, it seems like that animal service has come under fire for a long time for good reason, for not good reason,

right?

But she has been very diligent in asking uh any questions to me. She's been extremely willing to to listen to any kind of outside help, but she has been proactive on that. It's not a reactive response. If I have a question or something like that, she has been coming to us and I want to commend her publicly for for doing that. And these little steps that we make, it's not perfect and animal services is a very passionate topic to to everybody. But the little steps, we need to acknowledge those and they're important that maybe we're not getting where we all wanted to be in in a short period of time, but progress is being made and these problems are being addressed. They bring them up to us. We address them and we are doing and trying all that we can. And when I say we, I mean that with you, Angela. It's u it's a thankless job, but we are going to get there. And I believe the p public will see that. And I pray that we will have a more harmony, a lot more harmony than than we've had in in the past, but y'all are trying and I personally appreciate that very very much.

Thank you. We're all new and we're all learning. It's a new process for all of us. So, we just want to make sure we're doing everything the right way, the correct way. So, I appreciate that. You're doing a wonderful job. It's a thankless job, but no, we appreciate you and Amanda and your whole staff. Thank you. I'll pass that along. They'll appreciate it. Thank you. Angela, I think we've got one more question. Okay. Uh, these medications are weight specific, are they not? They are. Yes. And so, um, I I know there's an age specifications. I'm not quite sure on the weight, but I know it has to be 6 months and older. So, we'll make sure that's happening and then we'll weigh before we give it to them. And again, I want to go back to the I did say owned. I want to clarify that they're owned by the city. We understand. Okay. Just want to make sure.

Are you good? We're good. Any other comments on this item? With that, I've got a first from Karen, a second for Patrick. All those in favor say I.

Any opposed? Item G passes 70. All right. Now, let's move into the regular agenda. Comments regarding the uh items on the regular agenda may be made by the public when each item is discussed as outlined above. To participate, please sign in with the city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. Speakers will be called in the order they are signed in. Comments are limited to less than 3 minutes. Applicants, proponents, and appellants are exempt from the time limit above and instead must limit the remarks to less than 5 minutes. We'll go to item A. Considering approve approving a contract for phase 2, the purchase and installation of a variable refrigerant flow system at McNiss Convention Center with advanced service group in the amount of $115,850 utilizing civic events fund balance and authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents. Presentation made my made by civic events manager Sydney Walker.

Good morning, Mayor. Good morning, council. City manager Sydney Walker, civic events manager. I'm here to discuss and seek approval for phase two of our HVAC improvements. Um, last fall we completed our first phase of improvements which included this room right here, also the south the north meeting room as well as upstairs and the hallways. So this year we're looking to replace the current Mitsubishi single units that we have with a VRF system that would be replacing our uh main office, the manager's office, also the east and west restrooms, the foyer, as well as the electrical room and the concession stands. This system would um the system cost is actually $115,850. The start date would be in May and it would take approximately 30 to 45 days to complete. We will not have to close the venue um to do these replacements. And I'm just looking for an approval for us to be able to get started because currently right now we do not have any uh heat or air condition in these areas.

I'll open this up to the dis. Are there any questions? With that, I'll look for a motion. I have a first from Harry. I have a second for Tommy Heert. Heather, is there any public comment on item A? Jamal Schumpert.

He passes. With no public comment, we'll take a vote. All those in favor say I. Any opposed? Item passes 70. We'll move into item B, consideration and possible action on the following. Number one, consider resolution electing to participate in a tax abatement agreement pursuant to the property redevelopment and tax abatement act chapter 312 of the Texas Tax Code. And number two, first reading and public hearing of an ordinance reauthorizing article 1.09 taxation division 3 uniform tax abatement policy of the city code of ordinances which expired October 17, 2025. Presentation made by economic development project manager Robert Steven. Good morning.

Morning, sir.

Uh this is u as the mayor mentioned a uh two-part item. The first item is a resolution to uh continue our participation in the tax abatement program that the state authorizes under chapter 312 of the uh state tax code. Uh that expired uh back in October of 2025, our current participation. And that was due in part uh uh to a misunderstanding on my part. We had we had renewed a portion of that in August of 2024. So my thinking was it was coming up in August of 2026. I was wrong. So we're a little bit late but but we are renewing that. Uh and the second is uh uh just basically renewing the ordinance itself which is remaining unchanged.

Right. Robert, I think we were uh we've had some look and view at this in the background. I think these are one of these things that we only renew when we actually need it and we haven't maintained it. So, there's a discussion about maybe we just keep it updated with legal and whoever tracks it to make sure it's always in place instead of just having to reach back and grab it when we have to and it it would avoid some confusion there. But with that, I have no additional questions. Anybody else? Patrick has a question. Can you give me a quick synopsis the difference in a chapter 312 and a chapter 380? Between 12 and 38 312 and 380. Yes.

I I can help you with that. So the the 312 is tax code for tax abatements. And the two-year period that's by statute. You have to reauthorize it every two years. Um 380 is an economic development chapter that um provides incentives above and beyond abatement. So you could actually give direct uh grant funding uh even personal services using resources of the city to help a private economic development project. Um this is just for the tax abatement.

Is that 312? So, I mean, I'm sure everyone knows kind of where I'm going with this. A lot was brought up that this was done at this time for data center reasons. Does this have anything to do with 380? Is it part of one? No. Okay.

I mean, I'll may let Bob expand, but we we've already we've had the technology tower um there. There's a multi-step process to do these abatements. One of them is what we're doing right here. Another is to create a zone um where a tax abatement could be applied for and then the next step would be actually approving an agreement with an actual person or entity in that zone uh for the tax abatement. And so we've done that on technology tower. Um we've approved the zone. I don't I think we're doing this mainly to be able to

basically we're working on a final agreement on that one and the the only other one we have right now uh in any step is what we were calling project best. It's the battery storage up on the north side. Uh and that agreement is signed. Uh the the abatement won't take effect until they complete construction. They have not yet started and our it's anticipated to be I think in 2027. Gotcha. Thank you. Bye. with that. Any other questions from the D? I do. I have a just a clarification. So main essentially it's a coincidence that this came up at the same time as the data center and all. So I just want to make completely clear that that

this like you said there's a multi-step project and with municipalities it's extremely tedious and so you can't do one without the other. that the time the fact that this came about during this data center and similar area that they have nothing to do with each other. Absolutely nothing. I just want to make that crystal clear. This is strictly administrative procedures. Yes, that's the key word. Administrative. There's no uh action to to any anything. This we have not heard anything paperwork. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Patrick, did you make a motion? Yes. I have a first from Patrick. Can I get a second? Second. Second from Karen. Any public comment on this item.

Jennifer Dendy.

Hello again. Jennifer Dendy, single me member district 5. Um, yes, this may be a coincidence, but it seems unusual to say the least. And back to my locust analogy, we do not need to invite the locusts. They're looking for us. They want us. We don't have to give them anything. No tax abatements, nothing. And I hope you're right that this was just a unusual coincidence, but it's hard for me to believe that. But thank you. Any more public comment?

With that, we'll look for a vote on item B. All those in favor say I. Any opposed? Item passes. 70. Let's move to item C. First reading and public hearing of an ordinance for PD26-01, a request for a zone change from a single family residential to a planned development with base zoning of low-rise multif family residential allowing duplexes and quadruplexes located at 620 East 43rd Street. Presentation made by planning and development services director Aaron Venoy. Aaron, you're on.

Good morning, mayor, city council, Mr. Valenuela. Uh Aaron Venoy, uh planning and development services director. This morning, uh, we have a plan development, uh, request, uh, to reszone some property here at 43rd and Bonum. Uh, it's PD 2601. It's 1.3 uh, acres, and it's currently zoned RS1, single family. They would like to go to the a planned development with a base zoning of RM1, which is currently low-rise multif family. Their project is to add uh, quadruplexes to this property here. And currently it's it's got about four or five lots there, but they want to combine them all together and create uh quadruplexes. This is in district two, Joseph. And this is in the Lake uh Lake View neighborhood. Here you can see that it is neighborhood um zoning or uh vision plan on the left and then on the right. Uh everything you see around is single family. Over here to this side is Lake View. Um and this is a large detention area for the city. Uh but um this is all currently zone single family residential. We did mail out our notices. Um this did go to planning commission and did get tabled once uh for straight zoning. Then they came back with the planned development. Uh the same two properties uh have been in opposition the entire time. they would rather see single family development uh in this location um as opposed to multif family. They've had uh some concerns over time of this being an area that um particularly students can come through and they kind of hang out because it's a little wooded. It's got some trash and debris, but this is an opportunity we believe for it to be cleaned up. the other development challenges that they have right now that there are no utilities in 43rd. So, they'll have to put in water and sewer and a hydrant. Uh, and for

them to pencil out, uh, single family housing probably won't pencil out, uh, even if there was infill funding available. Um, and currently there's not infill funding available for this project. So, here's a little bit closer look. You can see um, how the lots kind of in its current state. This is when we put out our sign. You can kind of see the vehicles back there. Uh you can see the number of lots in through there, but they're looking at creating one lot uh eventually demolishing that and then placing uh four quadruplexes, which would be 16 units total uh along there. I will let me go back. Um, what I will say at the planning commission, um, and you'll see it possibly in our notes here at the end, they wanted to limit it to 15 units only. U, whether that be, um, duplexes, quadplexes, or triplexes. Um, it makes more sense if they wanted to fit four quadriplexes, it'd be 16, but again, uh, planning commission brought forth the recommendation of 15. So, just keep that in your mind. So again, they first thought that they would face bonum, but there's really not enough room between alleyway and street with maneuvering and thing things. And so the eventual uh plan will be that they'll be in this direction so that they actually have circulation for traffic. They'd be able to get uh get out safely onto 43rd and to Bonum Street. This on the right is one of the examples that they're looking at uh of trying to bring in the cottage style houses that they are connected um as quadruplex is there uh in the low-rise multif family. We did look around. Uh this is our infill area. We are trying to uh help continue to build our infill area because all of our city services uh are already going by being police, fire, animal services, code enforcement. um

all those types of things are happening already. Um what they do need is infrastructure and then be able to maximize the lots. We do know that through our housing study, this type of housing is a a desired type of housing and needed in our community. Um and currently we believe this uh you know the natural environment this is only going to help it. Uh and they would have an urban design review that would help uh with some of the aesthetics as it moves forward. So with that, staff has a recommendation of approval to the zone change from RS1 to a planned development with an RM1 underlying zoning, which is lowrise. They'd need to apply for all their permits. They'd need to generally conform to the low-rise multif family standards, which talks about setbacks and density. Um, again, planning commission recommended 15 units. SAF is recommending 16 units. If this was was already RM1 zoning, they could have up to 25 units per acre. And so that's the difference. That was a compromise there. Uh again, if they had uh lighting on site, it'd be shielded and that they would go through an urban design review for that. With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions or go back to any slides you'd like to take a look at.

So Aaron, would you go back to the slide showing the U duplexes, please? The proposed. So, in your comment, you said that's just one of the ones, one of the ideas they're looking at. Um, there's been several conversations about this property and the lack of a definite plan. Um, I'm going to kick this over to Joe here in a minute, Councilman Self, and let him go and lead through some points that he has here. We're all in for the approvement of property, but like some similar things today. We don't want to be shown one thing and then be flashed another. All right. So, with that, Joe, I'm going to kick it over to you and talk about looking for a plan. I know we'd looked at this property once before, didn't we? And there was opposition to it. I know that was on the point, but anyway, uh want to make sure there's not any twotory. Does the proposed zoning would that allow them to do a two-story?

It it would uh all residential zoning allows twotory, whether it's low-rise, multif family, or single family. Right. So, that but again, this is a planned development, so you can uh add conditions to that. And so if that's a restriction uh that uh is preferable, their their current design right now is not twotory. Um but I'll let I believe they're here and I'm not sure if they're signed up to speak or not, but the property owners are here today. I'm going to tee it over, Mr. Self.

So I I I agree. We need affordable housing. We need and and these lots great to clean them up, make that area nicer. Uh I I have reservation on putting in um multifamily homes there. Um and my big concern is the surrounding areas is all single family. Um we don't have multif family anywhere near except for down where the old Lincoln is. There's a few duplexes um or where old Lincoln was tore down. We also have the area over by Armstrong that we just approved for the infill that was supposed to be apartment complexes originally and then that fell through. So now it's all single family homes and that's closer to even a major road where you could see duplexes and stuff. So that's I I just have reservation on moving forward with this because of that. But again, I'm we do need to get that it would look nicer if it was built out with new homes. I mean, there's a new home on the corner of Buoie and 44th that backs up to that that lake. Um there there's been some areas that have been uh I guess after the flood or even before have have made, but it's all state single family. So, that that's my big reservation on this. And so, let's see where it goes from there. But I think their challenge and of course they'll be able to speak to this is if you were to put that into say there's six lots there, six single family houses, they would not be able to afford to do the project because the cost of the infrastructure is too much. Um they would not be able to get a return on those those six to be able to do that. I think they would like to do that. They're extra long lots. They're actually 200 feet long uh and 50 feet wide. Um, we've seen other places around town where the low-rise multif family

has come in and has been uh an a good addition to those neighborhoods. Uh, I think from a planning standpoint, uh, it is it is a way to help maximize that land and help spread the cost out of that infrastructure over time. Uh I do agree that obviously we do have single family homes and then we have a large lot here that's got a single family home and and one there uh directly adjacent. Um usually by school areas and of course again this is a high school not an elementary school or or middle school. um multif family or low-rise multif family seems to fit in very well. But again, we understand the concerns and if there are any options on conditions, limits, um things like that that make it more feasible um for it to mesh into the neighborhood. I think they're open to those suggestions. Um but I still think they have to have it pencil out for it to move forward. What when does the infill and I can't recall money re-up

October one. Okay. The new budget. So it'd be until then before they could even look at getting that money if that that was a possibility. That's correct. Patrick, you got a question? I do a little bit. Um Joe, and kind of for you. So looking at Well, Aaron, first you the letter that goes out to people, what does it state like? What do they know about it? But is it just that it's going to change from RS to PD? Is that all they see? Yes, it says that it's going to change to a plan development with low-rise multif family. That's what it says. Uh that goes out. We've done that twice now since it was tabled once. So, we had to renotify.

Uh we did have uh the two properties that are right here. They did come to planning commission, I believe, both times uh and and explained what they they were concerned about. Um, and so yes, I think obviously it does say lowrise because RM1 can allow lowrise. Now, in this planned development, we're putting the condition on that it could be quadruplexes or lower style structures like single family, two family, three family. It couldn't be um more than what they've already put as planning commission if that's the way you all wanted to move forward. So, they don't know that there could be 16 units. they just know is going to a PD. Well, that was discussed thoroughly at planning commission, but that was not in the letter. That is correct.

Um Joe, I mean, only two in opposition to me. I'm like, okay, maybe it's not a big deal. But as we've seen in other cases, a lot of times once somebody actually figures out what's going on, there's there's a lot more people that are in opposition. Have you What have you received kind of from people in that area? They're in opposition of of the multif family. Way more than those two that that we see there. Well, it's mainly those two. Those two. Yeah. Yeah. Um and and when you look on the RGIS map on the zoning that there's only we we have the the only multif family we have is down south on buoy where they tore the old Lincoln down. There's there's three duplexes down. This is a large sea of

RS those two lots to the right. I mean do we think that's kind of the same issue with that just general areas just the infrastructure is not there. Correct. So it's going to be expensive. Correct. Um, have they talked to us about a development agreement kind of like we've had in other issues? Have we mentioned that to them about looking into something like that? No. Okay. Do we have any restrictions on that of how many lots it has to be for us to be willing to help them out? No. Currently, we do not have a policy in place. We're allowing developers to bring it bring their uh request on a one by one basis. And so, um, but the policy is currently not in place to to have any guidelines or direction yet.

Gotcha. Um, I mean, even if we went to those six lots and you said they're extra long, so if you quote unquote split those in half, that'd be 12 units. I mean, that'd be three quadplexes. I don't know if that's a good mix or if we just leave it like it is. I'm going to kind of defer to you, but that's that's something I'm looking at is like, well, if if that, you know, if they could split those lots, which alley, you probably don't have the ability, but I'm just saying if they could Um how are they alley still an alley?

That alley is still in existence. Um it there was a proposal to abandon portion of it but the evidence that we found that it did not pass. So that alley is still in existence. Their goal is to make that into one lot uh so that you don't have issues with the building code with all these individual property lines and having setbacks and fire rating. And so they have one lot uh similar to some of the other projects that have come forward here recently. So, you think about the one on Avenue K, that's those are actually two story and there's 20 units and it's about uh8 acres. Um, now it has some commercial beside it, but then it's very residential around it as well. How many acres is this right here?

This is just right at 1.3 I believe. Yeah, 1.3. I if this was setting along Armstrong Chadburn, I wouldn't bat an eye at it, but it's just in the middle of all single family. So that's why I have reservation on the triplexes and I mean I could see duplexes possibly. Yeah.

You you know, but um I just have the reservation as well as they could they could build them two stories and then you're over towering everyone as well. Um so that's that's my big reservation. 16's a lot. Yeah. Like if it I don't know to me even looking at it just going like to town home sizes and things like that in other areas of town about how big those lots are. 16's a lot. That's um I mean that's why you got to do the quadex because you'll have no yards in between obviously four of them. But I our current ordinance would allow 25 units there and we have properties all over town that that fits and you still have plenty of space around and parking and all those things. And

if we want to con be considered of our budget, we're going to have to continue to press and say we've got to stay within our bounds so that we don't keep expanding because we lose money every time we expand out. No, but also I mean I feel for the people around it. They're like, well, there's zero other areas within, you know, anywhere that my eyesight. So, and and I guess do do we have actual drawings of what they're going to lay out and do? No, we do not have design draw drawings at this time. Do we know do they have an idea of how much it's going to cost to get the utilities up there?

We did do a pre-development meeting with them. That was one of the conditions from our planning commission um and did explain to them what all it's going to take. I mean, it's a significant investment to get this moving forward. Um so, I I believe we've communicated that. uh they can speak more to how they would work that out. And I mean that being said, can they sell this to someone else and they develop it if you know however whatever guidelines we move forward? They could. It would be bound by the plan development and how those guidelines are set up because that that zoning does stay with the land, but any conditions that you place on it also stay with the land. So, I mean, they could tell us what they planned and then realize they couldn't do it, sell it to someone else, and they could max it out to whatever we allowed.

That is correct. Okay. So, anybody Karen, go ahead, Joe. Would you find it suitable to table this until we receive design drawings? I would feel a lot more comfortable with that. Yeah. Okay. because I I don't want not develop it. We need it needs to be those lots need to be built and we need more housing in that area for Lake View for the north side. It's great, but I also want to know more and more specifics on that. So,

follow-up question. Uh what what was the backstory on planning commission's recommendation of 15 rather than 16? They envision something specific. Is it Well, I think it was five triplexes or

No, they didn't. They just um they were concerned that the the folks that came out and spoke, they wanted single family and they thought if they could limit it down to the density. Uh they just happened to come to the number 15. Um and so that that was a you know 10 units short of what they could do if it was already zoned RM1. I think what we're hearing here from the group is we'd like to see a a more in-depth plan. Um I don't think anybody here is opposed to developing that property and cleaning that property up. All right. I mean, especially those are just an idea of what could be put there. But I think the consensus I hear is maybe we table this item, let them develop a better site plan of what we're going to see

through and then bring it. I mean, there's no hesitation to move this forward. We would just like to know what's coming here and moving forward. So, with that, Brandon, what's our process at this point? Just make a motion to table. Make a motion to table. Um, I think because this is a zoning case, I mean, it would be appropriate to hear from the applicant if they're here. Absolutely.

Yeah. And I would want to make sure that we're very clear. Is it site plan and then you want to see like an elevation like here's on to the right of the screen so you kind of see the structure type or what height or those type of things because site plan can just be here's the rectangles and how it fits on the site and here's the drive aisles. That doesn't that may not give you everything that you some people have in their mind of what they're asking for. I think we would like to see the best presentation of what it's actually going to be. And if that involves height because something's changing, we certainly would like to see that. Very good. Is the land owner here? I believe they are.

Five minutes. Hello. Name is Michael. Nice to meet you. Glad to meet you. Michael, you you've heard our talk about this. We're just I mean the kind of the reason we're here and planning is here is not only for protection all the way around but it's for yours too regarding this happened to you or your neighbor going forward. Can you give us an idea of I mean you've heard our talk what you're thinking about putting here and could you come back and give us a better idea of of what you could put in?

I could if y'all would like for me to do that. Uh as it shows on the screen I propose as a quadruplex. I could split it to duplexes. uh moving it to the the second zoning is allowing y'all to put more rules on us. Uh there there is not going to be any two stories. So if you'd like to include that in there, that's fine. I have no problem with that. Make it to where I cannot build a two-story home on that that property. I would like to increase the density of this area because it'd be wasted if I just built four single family homes on there. Considering there's the three, you got the elementary school, the junior high, and Lake View, the high school all around us. and they're developing a daycare center that's there. So for a family that has different ageed children, it's a real pain when you have to go across town for one child and back to this side of the town for

and they're done that I'm with.

So any family that wants to move into these homes, which will be a lower income, which if I couldn't provide for them more affordable housing, the mom or father, they're not going to have to go such distance to drop their children off or pick their children up. Um, as far as what some of the people are talking about with the sewer line y'all are building somewhere, let me help y'all build the sewer line and electrical and water to help develop the other land that is around it is my plan. Why build just four homes when we can increase the density here. Y'all speak of there's not that many around. No one else is trying to do it. Let me try to help increase this area. This isn't it's not an abandoned lot, but it's a undeveloped lot. So, the kids do come over here. They hide in these cars that are here. They come over here to drink, smoke, skip school. They do the same thing with the land that's across the street from it. If I can increase the homes are here, you have more eyes to watch these children that are coming on this road. And if I can bring the utilities up, the other land owners,

we don't have any problem with that in respect of your time. You got it. Do you mind if we table this and you bring us back a more in-depth plan? If that would make you all feel more comfortable, that'd be fine. I I think that's the consensus up here. Yeah. And if you don't mind that, I'm going to make a motion to table it. I want you to work and just work with Aaron to bring us back something a little bit more defined. Okay. I think thank you. There's no opposition here to moving forward. Okay. We just like to see it a little bit clear. Okay. So, you would just like to see more of a design of what it's going to look like finished. Absolutely. Like like if you're using that picture on the right there and kind of that'll be your generic development putting that on the picture on the left but in specific so we can kind of get visual. I'm a visual guy personally so we can kind of see it visually and like okay yeah there's there is room here looks fine. Okay,

you know and then the neighbors could see that as well. They'd be like okay that's not as bad as we thought. Okay that's fine. I can do that. And with with the yards earlier from I was trying to remember that uh they would each individual unit would have a 12 by 25 yard as far as y'all would be concerned about that. All right. What what are some more questions that y'all are concerned? We'll work we'll let planning put that together for you more in detail than just trying to shoot from the hip up here. Okay, that'll work for me then. We're good. Okay. All right. Thank you. I'll second your motion. All right, let's

So, Aaron will table this. I'll make a motion to table this item further. I've got a second from Tommy. Is there any public comment and Joseph?

An Good morning and thank you for your time. My name is Dan Joseph and I am a resident of single member district 2. In the report to mayor and members of city council prepared by the city of St. Angelo's Planning and Development Services. It is stated that this resoning request is being made, quote, to make it profitable to happen for the current owner of the six lots in question. Those lots, by the way, are 50 by 150. This is not a reasonzoning request that is being made by the current owner because they think it is in the best interest of the neighborhood. That leads to a bigger question. What about the financial interests of the individuals who have already worked and invested their own hard-earned wages into their own homes in this neighborhood? Does not everyone who has already done that have a right to hold on to the potential future value of their own homes rather than to sustain a drop in that future value simply because one person in the neighborhood wants to put more money in their own pocket through a process that will bring down the value of everyone else's home in the area. The petitioners have already said that they will be demolishing their own single family home that they currently live in at 620 East 43rd so as to make room for more multif family units. So they will not be sustaining any financial loss in their own single family home. They will be evidently moving out. And the housing need for individuals within the city of St. Angelo cannot be so great as to justify this resoning request as a wider community need for housing because in February the planning commission quite handily voted down an effort by a developer to create close to 100 studio apartments in San Angelo. Second point

is that according to the overview provided by planning and development, if this property is reszoned for low-rise family multi multif family units, the owners would be allowed to have short-term rentals. Please remember that the six lots in question are only a block and a half away from Lake View High School property. Is the short-term rental situation best for this area? And whereas according to planning and development, the future land use and vision for this property is neighborhood. I ask you to vote against this resoning request, remembering that short-term rentals do not preserve neighborhood character. Finally, one of the arguments presented for resoning is that children can walk to their schools just as the petitioners for the resoning indicate they have for themselves. Now, statistics consistently show that families with children will avoid multif family housing. The petitioners themselves have a single family home for their children to walk to schools. Now, according to Harvard University's Joint Center for Housing Studies, quote, "In total, 39% of households in new single family rentals had children compared with just 14% of households in new multifamily units. So, fundamentally, a larger number of people with children who would be able to take advantage of the proximity of schools want single family homes.

Thank you. We support affordable single family. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Any more public comment? So, with that said, we'll take a vote in favor of tableabling this item. All in favor say I.

Any opposed? Item is tabled with the vote of 70. We'll move into item D. First reading and public hearing of an ordinance for one PD26-02, a request for a zone change from plan development district to a new plan development district with a base zoning of neighborhood commercial. And two, CP26-1, a request for a comprehensive plan amendment from neighborhood to neighborhood center allowing for a self- storage units located at 4657 and 4665 Southland Boulevard. Aaron, you're on.

Thank you, Mayor, City Council, Mr. Valenuela. This again is another planned development uh request um here along Southland. Um it's right across this is Bonum Elementary and of course you see some facility uh city facilities uh across the way. Uh this is an area that uh is in district 6, Miss Mary Coffee. It's in the bottom neighborhood. It's right under nine acres and it has a comprehensive plan request to go from neighborhood to neighborhood center and a request for a zone change from an old PD in 2014 to a new plan development. The old plan development was multif family. Uh you can see all the addresses in there uh all those white numbers on there. Um but it never moved forward and so the proposal today is to come back in uh and actually do storage buildings along Southland. So, we did send out our notices uh for this project. Um we at the time that this uh PowerPoint was created uh earlier or later last week, we had not had any in support or opposition. We did not have any in support or opposition at planning commission, but we have received three over the weekend that are in opposition. Uh there is one that has uh writing on it says traffic is uh hazardous in the area of Bonum uh already or Bonum school. Uh different egress. Uh let's see. Let me put on some glasses. Make sure I can read those words. Mayor

want to borrow some readers over there. Maybe we should do that. Huh? How old are you? This gray hair is not just for show. I'm with you.

So difficult egress exists at present. Uh, I oppose both commercial development and or planned development. Area should be for single family homes. And then we have two in favor who are actually the the property owners here. Uh, the ones that are um are along Autumn Trail and I would be remiss to understand exactly where Autumn Trail is, but I'm going to make my assumption that's Autumn Trail back there. Um, with So, thank you, Mary. Thank you, Miss. So here you can see the zoning uh and the vision plan. So the vision plan this time is on your right. You can see commercial area up here to the top again the campus institutional where the school stuff is. Everything else is over here in the neighborhood area which neighborhood normally means some type of housing uh of some kind. Can be uh high-rise housing all the way to single family housing. Now the zoning again you can see the general commercial up here. You can see that these areas are are zoned single family residential. They just don't function in that way. We've got some RS3 here fronting U Southland, the planned development, and then the the regular single family housing that just kind of goes back all the way to almost the railroad tracks back there. So, this would be a planned development to add storage, self storage to those two lots. So, here is the layout that they have. You can see there's a number of storage buildings, but the thing to look at here uh and it was discussed at planning commission is their entrances are here along uh Southland. They don't have any planned entrances along Mills Pass. The only reason they would have anything there is if uh emergency services that said that they would need maybe a gate down here if they needed to have circulation for emergency services. it wouldn't be for the public necessarily

to use all the time. Um they have these are large buildings. Um some of them may be and they may be able to speak a little bit more, but they're they're they're self storage. The lot um allows that that volume of those. There's they will come back and make sure that fire and ambulance and stuff can can circulate. They've got their their required parking. They would be subject to an urban design review and fencing. uh along this back property line where the single family is. Um they are would probably put in we would probably ask them depend on where we could put that to put in some trees and things so that it can buffer some of the sound and things. But again, this is self- storage. It's not like a a a other heavier use commercial use. Uh yes, you're going to have traffic there, but it's not a high volume of track it traffic all day all day long. um as opposed to a retail store. Um and I think it would also be less traffic than the multif family that was earlier proposed. So we did do some analysis um looking at the at the property. It is on a major collector. You want those types of things on major collectors. You really don't want your housing on major collectors or arterials. Um this is a good transition. It is neighborhood commercial. that is a transition between higher volume places and neighborhoods. And so having storage is a is a better connection between those two. Uh there is a community need. Uh seems like every time we build a storage building, they're full. We love to collect things. Um so everybody needs their storage. Uh I would also say we have a community need for other housing, but in this case it it does make sense in this area. with that. Uh this did go to planning

commission. Um they did approve uh unanimously uh 6. Uh and our recommendation is to the approval for the comprehensive plan amendment from neighborhood to neighborhood center which allows a little bit more intensity and that the uh the second one is for the approval from the um old plan development from multif family to the new plan development which would be a neighborhood commercial excuse me that allows self storage as the principal use. um they'd receive all their building permits. They'd go under an urban design review and the applicant must install and maintain opaque privacy screening along any property boundary adjoining the residential zone or land use. With that, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Erin, I think we look at this first as the property's been unused for a long time. Yes. Uh people have chosen not to develop it. Um and looking for a way to utilize this. Um Mary, I'm I'm fixing to tee this up to you here in just a minute, but uh there's to me it just amazes me how we do storage units and we actually use them and we fill them up. Um I get that. I I did like the fact that is there a fence just on three sides or it will be fenced all the way? I believe they'll fence it all the way. I think this will be the main controlled access. I think there'll be secondary accesses here, but I think their plan is to fence it all the way.

Okay. I'd like to see it tends to not only keep things in, but keep things out. So, with that, Mary, let's kick this over to you and kind of give us an opinion what you think here.

I don't know that this is even appropriate time to bring this up, but in seeing some of these planning miss um committee meetings and the calls that I've had from people that live over there, the traffic on on Southland is um just atrocious. Anyway, how much how hard would it be if we striped that road there? Because a lot of the things that's what people were having concerns with. You either can't get in or can't get out with during the school times. But with a storage part, you've got, you know, that that congestion and they worry about being able to to get out in a timely way. Now granted that only happens, you know, twice day with with schools, but when it impedes where you're going, that could seem forever.

So, I'm not sure that this property would have any responsibility with doing that since if they don't have to plat. If they do a replat, there might be a discussion there, but I may defer to Mr. Kelton um as he's very aware of operations and things like that in Southland. So, I don't know if you have any comments on that. Mr. Kelton, that was just some stuff that was brought up in those discussions when we're talking about this part. Yes, ma'am.

Yeah. And traffic is really horrible there twice a day and and it's been an issue. We have we have looked in that area um for years trying to figure out how to alleviate some of the congestion especially at pickup and drop off times uh at the school. And so it's we don't really have any additional rideway in that area. So, it's very would be very hard for us to go in there and reconfigure the lanes in that area with any striping or anything that would that would assist with that congestion during those times. Um, and so we have looked at we've looked at two or three options trying to get a even working with the school to try to get some additional maybe pull off lanes and things like that constructed. Um, it's it's going to be it going to be significant dollars to go in there and to try to alleviate some of that congestion. The one thing with self storage is is that uh you're probably not, you know, most people are probably not going to go to their self storage at 8:00 in the morning, uh, 7:45 to 8:15. Um, now maybe in the afternoon during pickup or something that that may be a more likely time, but again, I think the people that would util utilize this facility would try to dodge those uh specific times where traffic congestion is so bad in this in this segment of of uh Southland.

Good deal. Just a thought just passing it on. Yes, ma'am. Any further questions, Mary? No, sir. Thank you,

Patrick. Aaron. Um, yeah, I don't know if we could I know Patrick has the um street usage book that he has. I'm sure that shows I I think it'd be a very low usage, probably the lowest usage of almost anything. Um, especially over multif family or any other commercial. Uh, so I think that actually might be um a benefit is that it's a low daily usage facility. Excuse me. on the on the first part. Um the question I had, so we're going from a one PD to a different PD, neighborhood commercial, does it need to be that to do what they're wanting to do?

Yes. And we think neighborhood commercial is lower than regular commercial. Uh and so that say if the land use say if they don't move forward with this, then we have a neighborhood commercial. So it has to be a low inensity commercial project that would come in. Now, they could still do um they could come back and change their PD if they wanted to and and do something different, but with the vision there, um we are trying to protect the neighborhood, the school, the passageway there that's going through there that we know it's can get very congested. We wouldn't like to see a higher commercial use move into that area. We want we think that the neighborhood commercial is the right land use there that will help ease some of that just a bit. So they could um if they didn't go forward with storage, they could still do something else commercial, just not a high um like a retail spot like the general commercial above it.

Yes, neighborhood commercial would allow that in the future. They would have to change their plan development. The plan development will be is written that it is for storage building use, not for other commercial uses. So they would have to come back and get an amendment either through planning commission and city council um to change that PD for that other commercial use. So what is the underlying zoning currently? The underlying zoning currently is neighborhood. Okay. Well, let me restate that. You're asking zoning or vision plan? Current zoning. Zoning. So what could go there right now without having to do a PD?

A high-rise multif family. I think it's or maybe it's low-rise multif family. Let me make sure. They didn't I don't have it listed, but I know it's multifamily that can go there and I think it was twotory multif family that could go there right now is what was proposed in originally. Gotcha. So, we are changing that underlining zoning from that to general or neighborhood commercial. That is that is correct. Okay. Yes. I just want to make sure that that's clear because it wasn't to me. So, yes. Okay. Got it. Okay, that's all my questions. Thank you. Okay, any questions on the dice? All right, I'll look for a motion. So move. I have a first from Harry Thomas, second a second from Joe Self. Any public comment?

With no public comment, all those in favor say I. I. Any nays. Item passes 70. With that, we'll moved into close session executive session under the provision government code title five open government ethics subtitle A open government chapter 551. Open Meeting Subchapter D. Exceptions to requirements that meetings be open under the following sections. A section 551.074 personal matters to deliberate the appointment, employment, and duties of a city manager. With that, we'll move into close session.

All right. At 12:13, we will reconvene from close session. Uh we're going into item A, followup and administrative issues. Consider items discussed in executive session. There's nothing that needs to be moved forward at this time. Um, we're going to go on to item B. Consider approving various board nominations zoning board of adjustment Todd Smith SMD6 to a first term ending January 2028. Can I get a motion on that? Second.

I got a first from Mary and a second from Joe. Any public comment? I don't see anybody here. All those in favor of nominating Todd Smith to item B, say I. Any oppose say nay. Appointment passes 70. Now we'll talk about announcement and consideration of future agenda items. Does anybody have anything they want to add for a future agenda? Mary Karen Patrick. Nothing baseball anywhere. I'm with you. I can imagine. Daniel, Harry? No. Joe, Tommy, with that we'll take. No. Move we adjourn. We have a first and a second to close the meeting. All those in favor say I. I.

Any opposed? Barbara? No opposition. Meetings closed.