Board of Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Ladies and gentlemen, it's 06:00. I'd like to call this meeting to order the Board of Commissioners for May 4. Commissioner, first item on agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance. Everyone, would you stand and please join the commissioners as we move forward with the pledge. Commissioners?

I pledge allegiance to the

flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Commissioner's next item is agenda approval. What's the will of the board?

Motion to approve agenda. Second.

No motion to second. Any discussion? Okay, none. I'll call the question. All in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed likewise? The agenda has been approved. Commissioner's next item is public comments. This is an opportunity for citizens to come speak to us before us for three minutes. It's a limit. And so I have a list here. If you haven't had any handouts or anything, don't approach the board. Just leave it there for Deborah, and she'll see that we get. First one is Allen Hemmick.

Yeah, Hemmick. Is it Hemmick? Mary's Lane Road. On Mary's Lane?

They're chipping overflow.

Oh. She's got a

It might be my glasses weren't on, I'm sorry. Chairman King. Welcome. You have three minutes.

Thank you, gentlemen. I'm here tonight before you to kinda speak to the ongoing budget and the concerns that the citizens will have. You've got a huge task before you by the end of June. I don't envy your task, but I do challenge you to go into it with a bold and progressive and forward thinking manner. Okay? I think that is what this county needs. Are we in a economic situation where we can be overly progressive and bold? Probably not. Okay? But I do think we have to look forward at some of the decisions that we're going make with our departments, particularly with our school system.

Okay? I, for one, would love to see you guys, as you work with Rutherford County Schools and their planning, to prioritize elementary schools. I believe that gets our children kick started through their elementary school, they're ready to go on into the next grades. Okay? The school based schools that we have, I can they're doing wonderful. Okay? I was in one of them last week off-site, Cliffside, and it was a wonderful experience being in that school and observing that third grade class. Okay? So, as a part of that, and I will say to Rutherford County Schools, I would love to see Mount Vernon Bruce School reopened, because then that would be a community based school. What does that bring us to?

It's looking at what we do with middle schools and high schools. And that's going be a challenge for them and for you all in the funding process and the decisions. And you're going to have to make probably some unpopular decisions. Okay? I've learned a rule years ago when I began the behavioral health services. Always do the greatest good for the greatest number. I can sleep at night any decision I make if I do that, and I hope you will take that with you as you look at this. I know that three of you gentlemen will be leaving in the coming months, three will be replacing. I do not want that to be an obstacle for you. I think you still have a chance to lead us forward.

I think we are at a a place in our county within the next few years with roads and everything that's happening to go very forward. Okay? We need to be prepared for that. And it may mean some sacrifices right now so that we get to the place where we can move forward and and begin to see some more economic turnaround. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Chuck Landover? Chuck? Chuck? Yeah. He's Last number. Door. 7480 on your cell phone? He's next door. He's coming. Chuck.

Many of you good folks had a conversation with a real estate developer, Mike McCann, from Simple Life Homes. For for those who don't know, Mike McCann and Simple Life Homes is a real estate, Florida real estate company that specializes in tiny home communities. And Mike McCann is is he's a charming man. Mike McCann is the type of guy who can sell you pretty much anything. And I'm sure when Mike McCann came to speak to you good folks, he told you all the good things that Simple Life Homes could do for Rutherford County.

But what he probably didn't mention is that his homes are not stick built. His homes are mobile homes. And being mobile homes, their taxes property, not real estate. The property County will get nothing from these homes. But what Rutherford County will get is six to 1,200 more people who are requiring EMS services, requiring sheriff services, requiring volunteer fire department services.

Those bills come out of the county's coffers. So what Simple Life is trying to do is trying to take a lot of the money out of the county and give a lot of money to the state. It does not help this Rutherford County. Because of that and because of the environmental possible environmental impact, the possible impact on our fire department. I'm asking for a twelve month moratorium be put on any high density tiny home community within Rutherford County to allow the county to see the damages, potential damages that could be made environmentally to our water system or to our county budget.

Thank you very much,

sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that.

Matthew Kirkland is next. Sir, good to see you.

Good evening. Good evening. So I'm here to request a land use review. I've got packets that's gonna be handed out to everyone here. So it's actually 252 Spencer Street in Ellenboro, North Carolina. I have a handful of questions. Was just gonna read off of it. Whenever you guys review the the packets, I'd like to for you to take in mind. How does the proposed use align with the single family residence? It's looks to be like a resort slash campground, and currently, you'll be able to see that the zoning is for a single family use.

So my suspicion is that the land has not been parked for the excessive use. What review process applies given no defined zoning classification exist? Has septic and infrastructure capacity been evaluated for increased occupancy. How will visibility and compliance with public exposure laws be enforced at the property as part of the market? And they've mentioned that closing is optional in parts of the resort.

And it is you'll be able to see where I've plotted out the location where it sits and its proximity to a church and Thomas Jefferson Classical Academy. It's in a residential neighborhood. Does the market retreat weekends and organize organize organized activities indicate a higher intensity of use? I appreciate the opportunity to speak. After reviewing the available information, my concern is not simply the nature of the proposal, but whether it has been properly evaluated under the county's existing land use framework.

The parcel is currently classified as a single family residential, yet the proposed use appears to introduce a higher level of occupancy, organized activity, and operational intensity that may not align with that classification. My request is simple. Ensure that this proposal is reviewed under the appropriate process so that the infrastructure enforcement and long term impacts are fully considered taking the time to properly evaluate classification, and the use will help protect both the county and the surrounding property owners moving forward. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

Doug Stewart. Hey, Doug.

Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to speak before you this evening. I am also here to discuss or to speak about the tiny home proposed community in Rutherford County in Lake Lure. My serious concerns involve water, traffic, and the environment. I have yet to see any studies that say that the amount of water that could be potentially used by this community and how it would affect the residents in the Bills Creek community.

We also all know, if you travel Bills Creek Road, that it is a winding cow path with no shoulders, very poor areas to be able to move off to the side if there's oncoming traffic that's in your lane in many cases. So to add four to 1,000 more cars on that stretch of road on a daily basis would be be serious, not only for the people that travel the road, the wildlife that traverses the road, but the EMS workers that would have to come and clean up after the eventual events that would occur. So thank you for listening. I appreciate your time.

Thank you. Thank Thank you, sir.

Either is it Lori Harden or Pam Swan? Well, I

We're a package. Have three gentlemen.

Well, you have three minutes.

You. That's it. It's all we need.

We would like to ask you to enact the twelve month moratorium on high density housing development in Bills Creek. We have actually started a petition that gathered over 500 signatures in the past couple of months with people who have the same concerns we do. And you've heard about the concerns a couple of times so far. It's water. It's sewer.

It's everything that has to do with 600 tiny homes on 200 acres of land with lots of driveways and little water. So we are going to sub we are submitting this petition this evening and ask you to seriously consider using this to really give the state and the county time to decide whether or not this is in the best interest of everyone in this community.

The reason why we're going with the moratorium is because of the laws that were done with the Disaster Recovery Act of 2024, part three, session law twenty twenty four dash 57. In that, on page one thirty one, is the down zoning restrictions. So essentially, the legislator said on that bill that came out in 2024, was December 2024, that nobody in the state, a city, a municipality, a county, nobody may down zone anything. So we have no zoning. So what the gentleman from Ellenboro wants to look at things or change zoning, we don't

have any.

So you can't do anything to any zones or make zones or anything like that. It's my understanding that a quarter of a century ago, the land use plan was introduced, but it was not never adopted. Even though it's on the ordinance page, it's not adopted. This moratorium will give us an opportunity to really look at what's happening in Rutherford County. We know zoning is a big issue.

I don't want you on my property either. However, you know, I think we need to have a common sense. A quarter of a century ago, we did not have data centers wanting to move into rural areas. A quarter of a century ago, we did not have these high concentration houses that are planning on using table water to put water into those homes. Things have changed. I've changed twenty five years ago.

I was

a lot better than I am now, but I think we need to take a real good look at a quarter of a century ago, we looked at this. Let's take a look at it again. And if we do the moratorium, maybe we can do something better for the community. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you for your time.

Kimberly, is it sales?

Sales.

Sales.

Good evening, commissioners. My name is Kimberly. I'm here regarding the proposed 300 tiny home development in Bills Creek community. This is not a small project. At full capacity, this could bring anywhere from four to 700 additional residents into the rural area that currently does not have the infrastructure to support the level of density.

To put this in perspective, Greater Lake Lor has 1,500 residents. Adding four to 700 people is not just growth. It is effectively creating a new small community within an existing world one, but without the that a new community requires. Based on that, it has been shared this project will rely on private wells and septic system, a drain, rather than public water paying into the system. They came to Lake Lure.

They asked to connect to our sewer without paying. They did not wanna support the community. We denied. Our existing rural roads that are narrow are not designed for increased traffic, limited infrastructure for emergency services, this raises real concern. Groundwater sustainability and water quality, septic system density, environmental impact, road safety and traffic capacity, and a strain on the county service in a royal setting.

This type of development should be located in areas where infrastructure already exists, closer to towns like Rutherford or Spindale where roads, utilities, and exact access to jobs and services are already in place, Placing a development on this scale in a rural area without those supports creates long term challenges not only for future residents but for the entire surrounding community. For these reasons, I respectfully ask the board to either deny the permit as currently proposed or significantly reduce the scale. For example, one third of the project requires a phased approach, A smaller initial phase such as 50 to 75 is a large community in a rural area, and it would allow the county to evaluate the real impact on infrastructure and services, monitor environmental effects, and determine whether expansion is appropriate before approving a further build out. It keeps the developer accountable instead of coming and not giving the land to the people and to, take the money and run. Growth is important, but it must be planned, supported, and sustainable.

Thank you for your time. Thank you.

Grayson Porter. And Grace.

I'm a major departure from where we've been. I have some questions, and I know you can't answer questions. But I did want to talk about governance in general. These questions are rhetorical, so I don't expect you to answer them. The phrase of the people by the people for the people, as our situation in government at every level becomes more tense, more in involved, and we have less and less voice, That phrase is such a it's it's such a brainwashing phrase.

What does it mean to you besides a Morgan and Morgan advertisement? Who made the decision that we, the people, can't ask questions in meetings like this? Would it ever be possible to have a commission that we could actually engage with and ask questions? So what do you think about this? What are you going to do with this? We're now entering a time when citizens are redefining the buy the people part, and they're asking for more involvement. But we're out of practice. A lot of us have never even thought about doing stuff like this. Is it effective? I was thinking I did the math.

If I come here 12 meetings in a row for three minutes, I get thirty six minutes in front of you in a year's time. And I've tried to split some of the topics with other people, but they're terrified, too. So it's like, how do you get other people to help you? And if we gave you issue surveys, would you fill them out? And if you did, where would we put them so the whole county could see them? So that's kind of another thing that we really wondered about. And town halls do commissioners ever do town halls to talk to their districts? And where would you advertise it? I don't have a TV. I won't do fake book.

So I would never know. How do you feel about losing power to state government? State governments, I watched it happen in Florida. They took away all the county's power. It was just there was no accountability anymore. If you had a problem, go talk to Tallahassee. And I didn't like that at all. There's public sector workers I don't think this is a problem here. But elsewhere, it's 42% more pay across the country for public sector workers as opposed to private. So that's a shift to watch out for.

Outsourcing has now been shown to take away the programmatic dollars hitting down to the people from $0.74 on the dollar to $0.29 now. That's federal statistic that came out last quarter, quarter before last. So we're looking at some really crazy stuff like the technology, nanotechnology, electromagnetic radiation technology. Does anyone on this board have any science background at all? Is there any like how hard would it be to really sit down and have a conversation with you guys about the electromagnetic radiation spectrum?

So I'm ready if anyone's feeling brave. What else? Constellation satellites, the smart grid, all of these things are causing cancer. So we need to really start looking at the technology before we let Duke put it all in on top of us. And the public sector sector record request, I won't have time to get into, but I'll save it for next month. Thank

you. Thank you. Interesting. Eric,

Gourning. I don't know miss Browns. Good to see you, sir. Good to see you.

Well, I'm here because it's the the budget presentation. Right? So I'm here to beg you guys lower our tax rate. So because of what is going on in the counties, you know, the state's actually getting involved now. 've got this whole subcommittee now talking about property taxes.

I've been actually talking with representative Pare and and representative Scott about it, about what happened here, happened to me two years ago when you guys doubled my taxes. And I mean, that's exactly why the state is like, we've got to do something about this. Because people I mean, my tax bill in June was this amount. And then in July, it was doubled. And I had just a couple of months to come up with all that extra cash because we couldn't get the tax rate right.

So I'm asking you guys to lower the tax rate. And I know there's a with the budget presentation tonight, if they ask for a tax increase, I know there's a lot of departments asking for more money. I've been watching the school board asking for, what, dollars 900,000, ICC asking for $500,000 I mean, I understand everyone's asking for more money. What I would ask is that as a taxpayer who doesn't have any more money to give, that you guys would go back to them and say, hey, we need to lower our tax rate. You guys need to look at your budgets again.

And if they can't come back, then I ask that you guys do a continuing resolution on the budget. Don't pass. Don't just pass a budget because you feel like you have to before the end of June. I'm asking you, do a continuing resolution and just keep hammering on this budget until you can help the taxpayers of this county. You're you're my representative. I'm I'm asking you. Help me. You know? Stop hurting me. I mean, it it's to the point now where the taxpayers are having to make hard choices with their dollars because of the tax burden that we're having to pay.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Eric. Appreciate it. Thank you everyone for participating in public comments. Commissioners, the next item on the agenda is the consent agenda. Is there an item that you would add or remove from the consent agenda? If not, what's the will of the board?

Motion to approve

the consent agenda.

Second. We got a motion to second. Any discussion? You're gonna call the question. All in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed, likewise. Commissioner, next item is 4,480, is EMS Week Proclamation. I'd like to recognize Caleb Johnson. Caleb here.

He is here, but I might be coming back.

There he is.

Calling you. How are you, sir? Sorry about that. We just wanna see your shoes. Look at that.

Tonight, I just humbly come to you guys and ask you to proclaim May 17 through 05/23/2026 as emergency medical services week. As you guys all are aware, and you guys all have been engaged with us, takes thousands of hours of specialty training to be in emergency services. It takes a team. It's just not paramedics. It's firefighters, emergency medical technicians, physicians, emergency nurses, police officers to take a big team to go with emergency services.

And with this year, it's improving outcomes together. And that's what we are going with throughout the year, because we're working on a team. We're working on training together as a team, reaching out, training with fire departments, training with the sheriff's department, building our team, and so we have better outcomes to together as a team and for Rutherford County. So I humbly do ask you guys as the week of May 17 through the twenty third to proclaim that as Emergency Medical Services Week.

Okay. Are there any questions? The proclamation was posted online prior to our meeting, so it was publicly available. So at this point, there's a recommended motion before you commissioners. I make a motion that we approve the proclamation.

Thank you. Second.

And a motion to second. Any discussion? Hearing none call. I'm sorry.

I just said thank you. Yeah. Thank you, guys, for your support.

Thank you. Hearing none of all questions, all in favor raise your right hand. You vote likewise. Sir. Apologize for cutting you off. Four four six five is next. Older Americans Monk Proclamation. Tammy Aldridge has asked somebody special to step in. Ms. Garrison, good to see you.

Good evening, chairman, commissioners, and members of our community. I am Tonya Garrison, the program manager for the Rutherford County Senior Center. But I stand before you today not just as representative of our senior center, but as someone who has the privilege of witnessing something truly remarkable every single day, the strength, wisdom, and ongoing contributions of the older adults in our county. The images that you see on the screen were taken in the last few weeks as the seniors embarked on their twenty twenty six senior games. I think it's nice to allow you to put a face with a purpose.

Too often, aging is viewed as a slowing down, but here in our community, it's something entirely different. It's a season of impact. Our older citizens are not stepping out of life. They are continuing to shape it. They are the volunteers who show up first and leave last.

They are the caregivers who quietly support spouses, friends, and neighbors, the mentors who pass down knowledge that cannot be learned from a book, the pillars of our churches, civic groups, and families. And they carry with them decades of experience, hard earned wisdom that strengthens every generation that follows. And let's be honest, many of the values that we celebrate as a community, our faith, resilience, hard work and kindness have been modeled for us by them. Right here in our county, our older adults are staying active through programs that promote health and wellness, competing and creating and connecting through events like our senior games and silver arts. They're building friendships and fighting isolation simply by showing up for one another.

They are not just participants in our community. They are the builders of it. And what I and what I get to see every day is this, when older adults are given opportunities, they don't withdraw, they thrive. And we must shift how we think about aging. It's not a burden on our community.

It's one of our greatest assets. And because when we invest in older adults, we strengthen families, we reduce isolation, we improve health outcomes, and we build a more connected, compassionate community for everyone. That is why today, I respectfully ask this board to officially proclaim May as Older Americans Month in our county. The governor signed a proclamation for the state of North Carolina on April 27. This proclamation is more than a title.

It is a statement. It says, we see you, we value you, we honor your contributions, and we are committed to supporting you. And the truth is this, a community is not measured by how it treats its strongest, but how it honors those who have carried its strength for years. Our older adults have built the roads we travel, raised the families we loved, and shaped the values we live by. Now it's our turn to stand by them just as they have stood for us.

Let us proudly declare May as Older Americans Month, and in doing so, remind our entire community that aging is not just the end of the story, it's a new chapter being written every single day. Thank you. The proclamation is in your packet.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much, commissioners. What's the will of the board?

Second.

Thank you. I got a motion to second. Any discussion?

I would say that if anybody hasn't been over to our senior center and seen what's going on, it's impressive. And I'll be there to play pickleball when that court gets done.

Any further questions?

There's one in Spindale right now,

if you

wanna go play.

Yeah, I'll wait for this one. It's gonna be nice.

At this point, I'll call for questions. All in favor raise your right hand. Any opposed likewise? Perrys, thank you. Commissioners, it's, 4,466. Appointments to the Roe County Board, boards and commissions. I'd like to recognize our clerk to the board, Hazel Haynes.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You do have several boards and commissions that have terms expiring on June 30. A list of those expiration terms is listed in your agenda. You may choose to advertise the vacancies and accept applications during the month of May and could make appointments at a future meeting.

You have one term expiring on the Animal Appellate Board. You have two terms on the Foothills Regional Commission Board of Directors, one term on the Far Sea Board of Planning and Adjustment Representing Extraterritorial Jurisdiction, one on the Historic Preservation Commission, two on the Home and Community Care Block Grant Committee, three, on the Industrial Facility and Pollution Control Financing Authority, seven, on the Juvenile Crime Prevention Council, two, on the Library Board of Trustees, three, on the Planning Commission, one on the Webster County Economic Development Association, one on the Social Services Board, four on the Tourism Development Authority, three on the Transit Advisory Board, one on the Watershed Commission, and one on the Workforce Development Board.

Thank you. Thank you, Hazel. Commissioner, as I recommend a motion before you, what so will the board?

I make a motion that we approve the advertising vacancies except in ad applications and make any appointments at a future meeting.

Thank you. And motion is second, please. Second. And motion is second. Any discussion?

You may not call the question. All in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed, likewise. Okay. It'll be done. Thank you. Bringing it to new new business now, four four seven six, budget amendments. I'd like to recognize our deputy county manager and our finance director, Paula Rooch.

Good evening. There's a few budget amendments for your consideration. The first one, we're moving mainly transferring it from the program expenses with JCPC to administration. The next one is for a part at the communication building for the HVAC, and it'll come from the fund balance that's designated for HVAC systems. The next item in this year's budget, the board approved capital outlay for the school system at 1,800,000 for project specific this year.

So what they did was send us a list of which items were being replaced because they received other monies to do those projects and then the new projects they'd like to substitute in. So there's an email and a list of the current year projects The library received, additional passport fees, and with doing so, the cost of postage goes up, so we're appropriating some of those funds. The community college, needed to add 210,000 to a water source heat pump system that they've came to you a couple months ago with several projects. The next item is the transfer from the ICC Capital Fund to the general fund. The grant fund has received some star donations, and that's a program that primarily runs first of summer.

And then the sheriff's grant that they received, the state directed grant, the interest that we received since the time we've been holding the money is project specific restricted. So this appropriates the interest that's earned thus far, and we'll be moving it so that they can do a SWAT robot. And I have sent the information to the state to get the project scope revised as well.

Okay. That was a lot, but commissioners, are there any questions?

Yeah. You were in the meeting that we had with RCS with budgets, and the questions I asked about when grant money was awarded to the school system, but we had budgeted funds for a particular item. And then I asked the question, well, does that money go to their fund balance? And I don't know if you're able to answer that question or not.

That will be their budget, how it's laid out. When you all budget capital items

Yes.

They are specific to and he turns in reimbursement request, so the money is not advanced.

Okay.

So I would say that's not displaced or goes to fund balance.

So in this particular instance, the 1.8 that we approved last year Uh-huh. It's all sitting there until they give you an invoice.

Correct. He turns in proof of payment and a copy of the invoice, and then we reimburse them accordingly.

Okay. And then they've got some grants for part of that 1,800,000.

They've received some grants through the Helene Capital grants.

Mhmm.

And that too runs through the county. We've done a couple of budget amendments for those. Those work that same way that I get copies of the invoices, the purchase orders, and the proof of payment, and then we write the check from the stiff account, the state treasurer's account.

Okay.

Similar to the lottery proceeds.

So what they try to do is if they get grant money for certain things, they still try to use the 1.8, but since it's been specifically budgeted, they have to come

Yes. We requested that they give us a revised list as to what those would be applied against. In other years, we've appropriated up to a million dollars for capital, so they've turned in a variety of items. It's never been project specific, but since this year was project specific all the way down to the 1,800,000 in change

Yes.

Then we requested a revised list.

Because that one thing well, that 1,800,000 in change actually came from them in a request.

Yes. It came in last year's budget package.

Yeah. I think I'm clear.

Okay. What's the will of the board?

Make a motion to approve amendments.

Thank you. Second.

Got a motion to second. Any discussion? Hearing on a call or question, all in favor raise your right hand. Any opposed likewise?

You.

Thank you. 4473. Next. I'd like to recognize Paul Holden. This is JCPC funding allocation for twenty six point two seven. Sir?

Mr. Chair, commissioners, Mr. Williams, thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak to you. Although I'm an employee of Partners Health Management, I'll be talking to you about that in a minute, I'm here representing the Juvenile Crime Prevention Council in Rutherford County. And I would just want you all to know that this is a group of committed folks that, you know, you often don't get a lot of support in a in a positive way.

They kind of quietly go about their business. And so I know that we have two of our members, our long standing members here tonight. I just want to recognize Deborah Connor and Tiffany Dodd, who's back there, who are members of our our committee. So tonight, I bring forward to you for approval the annual budget for JCPC. These are funds that are received from the State of North Carolina through the Division of Juvenile Justice, It's the same amount that we've been receiving for a lot of years.

I don't even know how many it's been. But we try to be efficient with the use of the money, and the majority of that money goes to providers who provide services for our youth in this community. And just so you know, I'm just trying to think of the right word. The offending rate for Rutherford County is very low, which means that our kids are doing what they need to be doing. And so that's a great thing.

And so we work with some of those kids that provide challenges to this community. But generally, this is a great place for kids to grow up and to live a good life. Just so you know, we have four major providers. But just to kind of identify, REPAY is a provider that saw the need for two different therapy groups, one for girls, one for boys, that we didn't have before. And they have come forward to be able to start that up at a very limited amount of money. So we're very proud of that. So you have before you the budget that we've set for this year, and we need approval of the Board.

Thank you. What's the will of the Board?

Make a motion to approve funding request as presented by Juvenile Crime Prevention Council.

Next, Kevin. Thank you, Commissioner. Got a motion to second. Any discussion, Commissioner?

What is the difference in the JustGirls repay and the RISE repay? They're both identical.

Well, Just Girls is for girls. The Rise is for boys. Okay. She just decided to call it something different rather than saying Just for boys. She didn't say

what it was up to. Thank you. Any other questions? Alright. Call the question. All in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed, likewise. Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Commissioner Nick Hidalgo, 4478, the Partners Health Maintenance of Effort Funds recommendation. Sir, you're on.

Now, I do come before you at this point as Paul Holden, an employee of Partners Health Management. And so we are generally work with Medicaid members. And so we have a 15 county catchment area. And we work with our members through Medicaid reimbursement. But also from time to time, there are gaps in services.

And so, for instance, if you go to jail, you use your Medicaid, you lose your Medicaid eligibility. And so that's why in most of the counties that we work in, we provide services funded through the county commissions in the county jails. One part about that is really important is that for folks that don't think that that's necessary, there's a lot of folks that cycle in and out of jail. And so when you can provide services in the jail and keep folks free and clear and being confident members of the community, that's what you want

to do

for the little amount of money is spent. So we come before you with our budget for this coming year, which is the same amount, allocation amount that we've asked for for a long time also. I think it's even twenty years and counting, this same amount. So we just try and be efficient with the use of this money. Just for the commissioners to know, we've moved some funds around this budget this coming budget year to provide, to emphasize more direct services.

And so we think that's where we should be putting our money and where we ask the Board of County Commissioners to do that. So you can see the money in front of you. One new element this year is for the Community Health Council has a food council. And so, pantries have really been hit hard this year, this past year, due to funding cuts. And so, we are looking to kind of start with a small little amount to the food council to see if we can help some of our Rutherford folks who are dealing with food issues. So you see the board I mean, urgent I mean, good lord. The budget's now in front of you. So we ask for your approval for our budget request.

Okay.

Is there any question at this time? If not, what's the will of the board?

Make a motion we approve the funding recommendations.

Second.

We got a motion second. Maintenance of effort, that required by the state? It's not required. Recommended highly?

It is recommended highly. I would tell you that majority of the 100 counties in the state of North Carolina provide these same services and same budget.

Well, that came about during the last change, I guess, by when we by the last eight years or so, six years or?

Well, I think a part of it has to do with the opioid settlement funds have been able to take some of the elements of some of the maintenance of effort funds. In this particular case, none of the things that we've asked here deal with that particular issue. But you're right. It's not a requirement. But it's county commissions that see the need in their community, we appreciate it.

Thank you.

The hope is we wouldn't spend as much money on jail.

Right. I mean Yeah. And that well, because when people cycle back in and out of jail, there are all kinds of other resources in this community that are affected, in addition to just jail. So we think it's a really efficient use of money.

Well, thank you for what you do.

No problem.

Any further discussion? I'll call to questions. All in favor, raise your right hand. You can vote flat wise. All right,

thank you, sir. Thanks very much. I do want to say that Paula Roche is excellent to work with, and we really appreciate the work we do with her. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, thank you, commissioners.

Next item is 4452. It's a multi year agreement with LexisNexis for the county attorney. I hope that's not a car.

No, sir. No. No.

Let me

see who's Jay, are you on?

Guess I drew the short straw.

This is what it says here?

Yeah. So we have several departments that use LexisNexis. This is the first subscription that the legal department has picked up. So it's gonna be a multiyear term. Therefore, it has to come before the board. We are seeking approval for his multiyear subscription.

What does it provide?

So it's it's legal resources, all my legal resources, and lawyer and legal stuff. I am What I am sorry.

Ask me a question, it helps me give me the correct answer to provide you.

Awesome. It

is a very good tool.

So is it

I first

use Lexis in the Database. Database?

I mean Yes.

It it's a database of statutory case law, you name it.

Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Zurich, I recommend a motion before you. This time, we can entertain.

I make a motion that we approve a contract with LexisNexis negotiated by the county manager, the county attorney, and authorize the county manager, finance officer, clerk to the board, and other county officials to sign and execute all documents in support of this action. Second.

We have a motion. We now have a second. Any discussion? You may not have a call to question. All in favor is your right hand. Any opposed likewise? Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

He got to short strong.

$4.04 $5.03 is a multiyear agreement with Civic Plus for the legal department. Yay. Hey. Here.

So NextRequest is a public records request management software. We we typically get a lot of public records requests. This year, we have had an enormous amount of public press re records requests with no real way to manage either the the requesting of the documents, the gathering of the documents, and then later, the the review process that legal has to go through to determine what is public records, what's private, what's not relevant to the search. And then we really don't have an an eloquent way to deliver that package to the requester in a way that they could review it as well as we reviewed it to see that it was public record. So this package is widely used throughout the state when we checked all of the legal listservs and the IT listservs.

This is what North Carolina recommends that we use, and it it helps the entire way through. From the time that the citizen wants to request the documents, it's in this portal. The department's gathering the information to submit it to legal to review is in this portal. They do their review in the portal, and then when it's released, the citizen gets to view it in the portal or download it to view on their own. But it makes it all seamless, and it helps us keep track to make sure that we don't drop the ball on something.

Yeah. I know it seems like some folks have trouble opening some of the files sometimes too.

Yeah. When we when we export, say, emails, a big request, your email has a lot of attachments in it. Well, it could be a Word document or it could be a, you know, a proprietary software that that we may use that the average citizen doesn't so they can't view the attachment. This will level that playing field and convert everything into PDF that people can see.

All right. Thank you. Any other questions, more?

How much good, I know this is a guess, but I've had a lot of people complain about the length of time it takes to process public request. How much better or quicker do you think this software will help you be will help the county be?

It will definitely help with efficiency.

The problem

I don't know if there's a problem, but the delay, I guess, is when people make their request and they're not specific, that generates a very large capture area for documents. And then there's two people in legal to review these documents, and you have to look at every single document or every single email, every single attachment of every single email. That that is quite time consuming. And then the where some of the efficiencies are gonna come in, the way that legal was formally having to look at, say, emails was in an Outlook mailbox, and they're having to juggle between their mailbox and that mailbox, and it was slowing down their Outlook. And it was it was causing havoc.

So I think from a efficiency standpoint, this is gonna help the process along. But the general long amount of time is just reviewing the massive number of documents before they're released. Yeah. People would really hone in on what they're looking for. That would speed the process up, and it would get them to exactly what they

would want. Are they coached to do that when they call in and request public records?

I don't think they're allowed

to They are. Do Yes, sir. They are. You have to go through an entire process to attempt to drill down to specifically what they want. Many people, frankly, don't want to give more information. The the mirror sometimes the mirror asking, can you be more specific? People are kinda hostile to that question. So a lot of people leave it very general. To give an example of what what and it's mostly my assistant, miss Hamrick, but I get drawn into it quite a bit myself. We had a request that asked for a certain amount of information, primarily emails.

What came back was over 17,000 emails. Now each and every single one of these, 17,000 emails have to be read line by line to ensure that nothing confidential, nothing that is not public is released. Some of in some cases, it could be actually a criminal offense to to release confidential information. Somebody's medical information from EMS, for instance, children's information through juvenile services. This can be very touchy stuff that we need to be very careful about releasing.

Now, the difference is in that one particular case, we had 17,000 emails that that came back. By the time we're able to drill it down after a lot of time and effort and doing everything else legal does, there were fewer than five or 600 emails that were actually relevant to the request. Next request, by all accounts, and our hope is we'll drill down to that five or 600 we need to review immediately, so we're not going so we don't waste 16,500 emails of time reviewing just to determine it doesn't even match. That's going to that might be that's a big part of the reason why it takes us a long time, particularly with emails, And this should help out that tremendously.

Thank you.

Commissioners, there's a motion before you. Recommended motion. And what's the will of the board?

Make a motion to approve a contract with Civic Plus. Next request, negotiated by the county manager and the county attorney and authorize the county manager, finance officer, clerk to the board, and other county officials to sign and execute all documents in support of this action. Second.

Yes. Got a motion second. Thank you, gentlemen. Any discussion? I'll call the question. All in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed likewise carries. Thank you. Commissioner's next item is 4,470. Resolution resolution awarding Major Andy Greenway's sidearm and badge. Who's representing the Sheriff's Office today? I'll do that. Figured it would. Good evening, sir.

Have two of our sworn staff scheduled to retire June 1. So I'll read the first one and then do the vote, I guess, and then read the second one.

We can. Yes, sir. That'd

be We're requesting Rutherford County Sheriff's Office Major Andy Greenway be awarded his duty weapon and badge upon his retirement. Major Greenway has served with the sheriff's office as sworn deputy sheriff assigned to the school resource officer division as a school resource officer, a sergeant, a captain, and his major. Prior to the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office, Major Greenway also served with the North Carolina Department of Corrections as a corrections officer, as a patrol officer with the Alexander Mills Police Department and the Shelby Police Department. Major Greenway served with the Spindale Police Department in several capacities, including as the chief of police. Major Greenway served with the Polk County Sheriff's Office as chief deputy and with the Lake Lure Police Department as a lieutenant.

Major Greenway began his law enforcement career in January 1996. He came to the Rusk County Sheriff's Office in November 2018. Major Greenway is retiring 06/01/2026. Major Greenway has served honorably and with integrity in all the positions he held. In accordance with general statute 20 dash one eighty seven point two, I'm requesting major Greenway be awarded his assigned duty weapon and badge for his many years of dedicated service to the citizens of Rutherford County.

Thank you, sir. Thank you. What's the will of the board?

I make a motion that we approve the resolution awarding service sidearm and badge to Major Andy Greenway for the sum of $1.

Second. We have a motion and a second. Thank you, gentlemen. Any discussion? Thank you. Appreciate the service. Hearing none, all the questions. All in favor, raise your right hand. King posed likewise. Carries. Thank you.

Thank you. Also, we're requesting Rutherford County Sheriff's Office corporal Mike Messer be awarded his duty weapon and badge upon his retirement. Corporal Messer has served in the sheriff's offices as a sworn deputy sheriff corporal and sergeant assigned to the patrol division and is corporal with the court security detail. Corporal Messer has also has prior service with the Spindel Police Department, Marion Police Department, and Polk County Sheriff's Office. Corporal Messer began his career with the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office in June 1996.

Corporal Messer has returned 06/01/2026. Corporal Messer has served honorably and with integrity in all the positions he held in accordance to general statute 20 dash one eighty seven point two requesting corporal Messer be awarded his assigned duty weapon and badge for his many years of dedicated service to the citizens of Rutherford County.

Thank you, sir. Point of order. This this second request is not only agenda and was provided to us prior to the meeting. Do we have that?

Pardon me, sir? I do not see a resolution, unfortunately.

Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

We'll try next time.

No. We definitely would do it, and we we approved the agenda at the beginning of the meeting, and this was not on agenda.

I understand totally, and I don't

And I'm I'm embarrassed that

we we

actually have the resolution?

Is there a resolution?

Do you have a resolution?

Do you have a copy?

Guess, is that what you're asking?

Question. Can we approve adopting a resolution awarding him?

You can make a motion to approve. It won't be a formal resolution, but you can approve based upon the language from the one with Major Greenway, if you so choose.

I tell you what, if we approve this, I think we'd all be happy to sign a letter altogether, all five of us, we?

We can sign

it later. Okay. Yes. Alright, I'm looking for a motion to approve awarding the sidearm

to this office. I make a motion that we approve awarding the sidearm and badge to Michael Messer. Second.

We got a motion to second. Any discussion? Thank you for your patience as we muddle through that. Any further discussion? I'll call to question. All in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed, likewise, it's done. Thank you, sir.

Thank you. I apologize, they were supposed to be sent up the same time, but we dropped the ball somewhere.

No worries, it's

all good.

Thank

you. Thank you. Dear. Thank you. Y'all want to take a short break or you want to keep on? I'll keep on. Good. Alright. Commissioners, next item on the agenda is the budget presentation, item number 44663. You're all provided copies of the support documentation from denying.

Take that home and read it to me. If you can bring that up. Ready Commissioners? Commissioners, tonight I'm presenting a budget that is focused on stability and preparation. While this presentation contains key points in the budget proposal, I suggest that you take a deep dive into our budget message, the book I just handed you, that will be posted on our county website in the morning, which I believe will provide a deeper level of understanding of the messaging contained in tonight's presentation.

At previous workshops, the board of commissioners were provided with each department head's request, department's narrative on the twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven timeline. We also held budget meetings with the leadership teams of the officer Office of the Sheriff, Isletuimal Community College, and our Ruffa County Public School Board. Those narratives were provided to us as well. As stated in the budget message, key factors are impacting our decisions on our 'twenty six'twenty seven budget. They include continued inflation and rising operational costs, uncertainty in sales tax, property tax, and vehicle tax collections, labor market pressures impacting recruitment and retention, increases in state retirement health insurance and mandated program costs ongoing and future capital facility and infrastructure needs economic impacts from recent events, such as the storms and national economic patterns increased demand for public safety, human services, and education.

As we learned in our department budget meetings and our workshop meetings, there were other factors to consider as well: roof replacements, Viper radios, law enforcement vehicles, ambulance replacements, information technology upgrades, the new Medicaid cost, the ICC Facilities Condition Assessment Program, they call it FCAP, for critical safety upgrades, And the 5% matching funds for Rutherford County Schools to apply toward the needs based public school capital fund, the NBPCF grant. And of course, we have the upcoming revaluation, and then the recommended full measure list reevaluation in 2031. This year's budget message is intentionally concise, focused on stability and preparation, the core emphasis of the recommended budget. The county provides support for 30 departments, operations across 76 facilities, and a workforce of more than 700 employees. These services span over 460,000 square feet, approximately 800 acres, in addition to the support that we provide to Rutherford County Schools and the Isothermal Community College.

While our commitment to these efforts are critical, this year's budget places a stronger emphasis on preparing for the needs, primarily known as the capital needs that will be coming before us over the next three to five years. Across our departments, there are significant capital improvement requirements, and this proposal highlights the development of a structured capital investment plan to begin meeting those known needs. The budget recognized the importance of supporting improvement plans that is within our capacity for our local schools, Oslo Community College, and our county assets. A key focus is infrastructure replacement, which represents the largest portions of identified needs. As a result, careful consideration of fund balance will be necessary to responsibly address these priorities.

Our capital investment plan also includes the cost of vehicles, actively completing the active construction projects such as the detention center, and the addition of a fourth courtroom. Solid waste. It is important to note that despite past efforts to operate the Roethe County Solid Waste operations as an enterprise system, the recommendation moving forward is to recognize that solid waste is part of the county's essential services necessary to protect the health, maintain environmental standards, and to ensure dependable service countywide, and is recommended to be supported as a county department instead of a standalone enterprise to ensure dependable service countywide. Tonight, I am recommending we invest portions of our non restrictive fund balance to prepare for known future needs into a capital investment plan. This CIP will address the known needs based in York County over the next three to five years.

Preparing for those needs now will help stabilize the process of implementation to address these needs in future years. The CIP should include the following: The VIPER radios, that's $950,000 law enforcement vehicles, refresh, $2,860,000 Public service vehicles, dollars 2,954,500. Identified IT hardware and software, $910,000. The required new election elections equipment, $275,000. There's other equipment, other vehicles in the county, one point six six one one million six hundred sixty one thousand six hundred sixteen dollars.

And then planning for the future, also, Rush County Schools need based public school capital fund, the NBPSC of grant match of $3,100,000 The grants for this program to the Rutherford County would require a 5% match. So basically, if the school system, if they decide that they're gonna go to a, or close a school, and they need to refurbish a school versus building a new one, they can apply for this grant, but there's a required matching fund from the county, and the county will already have it, we're good to go. The ICC Facilities Condition Assessment Program, the FCAP, Critical Improvements. This is what was presented to us before. The recommendations for this project is $3,100,000 County facilities and buildings, dollars 5,599,100.

And the reserves for a full measure in our list for the 2031 reevaluations will be $1,700,000 Commissioners, you will recognize that many of these capital needs that are mentioned here are from the department meeting narratives from the meetings that we held earlier this year. By preserving these funds now for use towards a known future our future known, excuse me we're stabilizing construction to address those needs over the next three years. The remaining unrestricted fund balance allows the county to maintain a reserve to keep our credit rating high in our ability to face an emergency. County staff will work with DEC Associates, our financial advisor, to present a fund balance policy later this year to support the capital investment plan. Funds will be transferred from the general fund to a new capital investment plan to support these projects.

The capital investment plan will be part of the framework for stability and preparation. Additionally, we should develop a Board fund balance policy to provide clarity and understanding to our staff, our public, and our auditors. Fund balance is not placed in the CIP nor the Capital Investment Plan. It also has an important purpose in long range planning and providing support for stability. Maintaining a proper fund balance helps us in these areas: planning for contingencies, such as economic downturns, unexpected revenue shortfalls, natural disasters, and emergency responses maintaining a good standing with our rating agencies.

Bond rating agencies value an organization that has the ability to repay debt on time and in full. The Rutherford County School System, the college, nor the justice system, has the responsibility of being a taxing authority with the full responsibility of debt service. This duty rests solely with the Board of Commissioners. Avoiding interest expense. Cash reserves are used at times for critical projects to avoid debt financing.

And then, some of you may not know, but we also use it serving as a cash flow management tool. These reserves can be used to bridge the county's finances during times of the year that normally experience low levels of cash. It is recommended that the Board of Commissioners develop a Ruffa County fund balance policy to be reviewed and approved each year by the Board. Solid waste. The solid waste operation has faced multiple challenges during recent years, which may have an impact on the solder waste future revenue projections and expenditures.

Due to state and national economic trends, legislative burdens placed on the processing of certain waste, such as electronics, textiles, metals, white goods, tires, oils, recycling. These programs' revenues have been unstable at times. And then, you know, we've seen before, contractor subcontractor costs have increased with the cost of fuel and employee benefits. This budget proposal recommends moving solid waste to be within the general fund as a county department, rather than operate as an enterprise fund. It is extremely difficult to maintain operations of an enterprise fund with continued rising cost.

Leveraging solid waste for the general fund will allow other funding opportunities to support the department. Gentlemen, this is a new direction to solid waste operations that will achieve stability to the operations of that department. Southern waste fees are recommended to be as follows: MSW tipping fees, dollars 80 a ton C and D tipping fees, 70 a ton brush tipping fees are $45 a ton. And listen to this. It is also recommended to replace the solid waste household fee, the solid waste homestead fee, and the recycling availability fee, and implement a consolidated waste and recycling available fee at $55 per approved property to support operations and disposal costs.

Isothermal Community College. For 2627, we're recommending a total of $4,737,000 $629 to be allocated for Alsat Thermal Community College, with $3,597,353 going to operations, dollars 700,000 to capital outlay, and $440,276 for debt service. This reflects a 10.246 increase in operations. How much was that increase? 10.246%.

Bruford County Schools. For twenty six-twenty seven, I'm recommending an appropriation of $27,346,014 to Ruther County Schools, with $17,645,195 for general operations and $1,554,057 for teacher supplements. For a subtotal of $19,199,252 for current expense and $1,121,000 to General Capital outlay, including the sales tax set aside for debt service of School Capital of $7,025,672 the total county appropriations supporting Rutherford County School System for twenty twenty six-twenty seven is recommended at $27,346,014 This is a 4.52% increase over the current year's appropriation for operations. The total county appropriations to supplement education capital outlay over and above the required sales tax is recommended at $1,718,150 For fiscal year twenty sixtwenty seven, this budget recommends a total general fund budget of $93,447,130 an increase of 6.654 over the current year fiscal general fund balance. Total requests for the general fund were $109,225,378 but we were able to reduce it to the $93,447,130 as previously stated.

The total budget for all funds are at $121,221,412 The remaining special district packages for the fire and sanitation districts will be received in the next few days and will be compiled by the staff and provided to the Commission at the May 11 budget workshop. We retain the current tax rate of 45.4¢ per every $100 of value in the budget proposal, while recommending approximately 10,000,000 of fund balance to bridge the gap to $26.27 Now, we do expect to recover some of these monies with a conservative revenue estimates, and the county department heads that are great stewards of their budgets and generally return on spent funds to the general fund. The county is also able to retain $4,600,000 of the Helene cash flow loan proceeds that will be held by the county until June 2030, at which time their principal will be due and payable to the state treasurer's office. But the interest earned while held is not restricted nor payable to the state. Through monitoring opportunities like this, staff will work hard not to have to spend this portion of the fund balance appropriate to balance the budget.

The recommended budget of the current 45.4¢ will sustain operations, increase support for public safety, education, and maintain service levels across all departments. This is the pie chart. This is what our general fund pie chart looks like on our current year. If you see, public safety makes up 29.6% of our budget, education makes 26.8% of our budget, and human services makes up 21.5% of our budget. In the proposed budget for twenty sixtwenty seven, Public Safety currently makes up 30.06 of our budget, Education's to 25.59, and human services makes up 22.74%.

However, human services percentage is a bit misleading, as approximately 60.99% of the tax dollars used to support DSS, included with human service category is reimbursed through the state, federal, and grant sources, leaving approximately around 39.01% to be covered by county dollar. Takeaways. So the highlights of interest for you is the received exceeded $109,000,000 The recommended budget is $93,400,000 for the general fund. There is a 4% cost of living for county employees, and it's recommended to be effective with the January 2027 payroll to continue to remain competitive. The budget also includes several new positions to support critical operations.

There's a fourth courtroom bailiff effective April 2027 following the completion of the courthouse renovations. It's also recommended to have two row patrol adding two row patrol offers for peak support time as requested by the office of the sheriff. And one new appraiser. We're gonna convert the communications part time administrative position to a full time administrative telecommuting position, and that would help during peak times. We will be needing and recommending five DSS income maintenance case workers to support the requirements of the HR one Act, and then an additional part time support for the library.

General fund is balanced with approximately $10,000,000 for operations supporting county operations, schools, the college. Staff will work with the with the financial adviser to establish a capital investment plan fund, which will create be creating the upcoming budget ordinance by setting signs of the following: $1,700,000 for the upcoming 2023 reevaluation, which needs to be a full measuring list. The last full measurement list revival was completed with the 2019 revival. 9,300,000 for vehicle and equipment, including the Viper radios and election equipment $11,800,000 for capital facilities dollars 5,600,000 for county needs, and $3,100,000 each for the schools and the college, as we mentioned earlier. With the recent reimbursement for FEMA, it's now time to reinforce our stability and be prepared for the next three to five years while they've been planning annually.

A long term plan helps support our credit rating and allows the county to be able to fix and move forward with projects being immediately impacted by changes in the economy, and to be prepared for those rainy days. None of us ever anticipated a hurricane in West North Carolina, but shortly after a financial update from DEC Associates discussing the importance of fund balance, the county quickly learned why. Many coastal counties also have disaster preparedness fund. This may be something the county considers in the future so that similar to the purpose of the cash flow loans, the county will have has the ability to weather a storm until such time reimbursements are received. I'd like to publicly thank our county department heads, our county commissioners, the office of the sheriff, and the select board members of the educational institutions that have been a participant in this process for the past few months.

We've had many conversations among us and among the department heads here and and and our partners, and it's been informative, and I really appreciate your time and patience. I'd also like to thank our department excuse me, our deputy county managers, Paul Roche and Danny Searcy, for being supportive of my team. Your dedication to our county is impressive. In the end, this is the recommendation the recommendations contained in the recommended FY twenty six-twenty seven budget are just those of mine, the interim county manager. It is an honor and privilege to be provided with the opportunity to serve the Board of Commissioners and the citizens of Rutherford County.

I look forward to working with the Board to review these recommendations and adopt a budget ordinance in June. Gentlemen, that's the end of my presentation. In your

budget message, with the overall big budget number you showed at the end, was the roughly $22,000,000 CIP in that budget.

It's 22,000,000.

The the CIP. Yeah.

Yeah. That 22 is in there? It has

in there in budget ordinance. We'll take the measure to move that to fund those items that are listed in '22.

And, Paula, what is the North Carolina state recommendation percentage that we should maintain for emergencies and for disasters like we just came through? What is that number they look for from us to be able to keep in our fund balance?

There's a minimum fund balance policy that they talked about. However, for accounting and the general fund budget, for operations, since you send out tax bills late July, August Yeah. And then the money starts coming in.

Plus those

numbers in the reserves are running higher than they typically do.

Yeah. I was told, like, 38% is what they like for us.

Yes. And just as we stated now that the FEMA money that we had out there for reimbursement, we did just receive a reimbursement on Friday as well 7,600,000. So in the last two months, we received right at $3,000,000 in reimbursement. So that's

And just to make a statement for future commissioners here, this using $10,000,000 of our current fund balance to balance this next year's budget makes me nervous for the next year when we have reevaluation. I don't know if you caught that.

Well, Commissioner Zayn, this is the message. I do have something before you. If you look on this item, there's some dates come forward. There's actually a motion before us. We have May 11, a budget workshop. May 18, a budget workshop. May 21, attended a workshop. June 1 is a public hearing and June 4 is a budget adoption. And there is a recommended motion before you.

Motion we approve the June 1 as date for public hearing on the fiscal year twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven budget and approve other dates for budget workshops and adoption.

Thank you. Second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion? If you're not a call or question, all in favor, raise your right hand. Any opposed, likewise. Okay, the dates are set. Thank you. Commissioners, next item is to adjourn. What's the global report?

Tax collector.

Well, the tax collector report is for public information. And now it's to adjourn.

Motion we adjourn.

Second.

We got a motion second, any discussion? If you no other call or question, all in favor raise your right hand. Any opposed likewise, we are adjourned, thank you.